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EP 182 - LIVE SSP Q&A w/ Johan Fritz & Jodi Reynosa

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So it does not include the meal plan. And you don't have to buy it ahead of time. You can just show up and buy it on site. There's plenty of room for you. So all that information is on the website, secretspaceconference.info. Day passes are now available. So take advantage of that if you can't make it for the full event. And as you know, there's no on-site lodging available. That's all sold out, but there is a campground and there's some campsites still available if you want to come out and camp or grab a nearby hotel or Airbnb. There's plenty of room for you at the conference. If you can find a place to stay, we're looking forward to seeing everybody. We can't wait to meet you. It's right around the corner. We're going to be joined by Jody and Will, or AKA Johan Fritz, as some of you guys know him. And we're really excited to get into a very interesting conversation/Q&A with them this evening. How are you guys doing? Can you hear me? We're good. So excited to be back on the show. Thanks, guys. Great to have you guys. Right, right. Yeah, we're looking forward to hear what you guys are going to be talking about at the conference also. Would you guys actually be interested in giving the audience a preview of what that might look like or what you'll be presenting on? Yeah. So partly what's going to happen, again, we've been kind of debating this. I've been kind of throwing this around. I wanted to give some clarification, both on my story and Jody wants to present her story to everybody. Because it's like the first time I've actually gone public with this. And then the last portion of our segment, we're going to talk about stuff where we actually have joint recalls, memories, and discussions around that. And I know that we're the last people. I guess the only people tend to be speaking on Monday. So technically, people wanted to listen to a Q&A after that. I mean, if it's OK with you guys, we could do that. So it's just-- it's kind of free flow, but we're going to be presenting some more in-depth information. Because some folks have been asking questions about me specifically kind of going at my record. They don't know Jody's at all. They don't know anything about her. So it's good to kind of have people kind of get acclimatized and know who she is and what my background is. Also, the fact that there's quantum echoes in this realm with people's experiences in the SSP, I think sometimes people question like, have I been in? Or I don't know. I resonate with these types of things, but I'm not sure. Oftentimes, if you find there's quantum echoes and you feel really attracted to the subject, usually what we're finding with our clients is they've been in. And for me, I'm kind of following-- I've followed the breadcrumbs, so to speak, with the quantum echoes. And it lines up so much with these experiences in the program. And then Peter, the insider, has confirmed a lot of this too. I've had QHHT sessions that have confirmed a lot of this as well, and it's just crazy. I mean, to the point where he was confirming our twinning between us and how at age three we met and in the underground facility. And what's crazy-- I'll just give you a little hint at a couple of quantum echoes. My mom two years ago told me how I was in the hospital. Almost died. I was there for three days. I was one of three infants. There was about maybe 25 infants. And only three of us stayed in the hospital. I was there for three days. And during that time, there was a doctor who was suspected of actually doing experiments on young children and newborns, and then abducting them. So Peter, the insider, confirmed that that happened. I was abducted. I was actually taken. They did some crazy experiments. And then at age one, I was injected with this rainbow goo, so to speak. And it had tech in it. And it was a facility. It was a monarch facility in Colorado. And what's crazy is fast forward. And I actually served a mission for my church growing up in Colorado. And the first mission present I had was a psychologist. So there's just some weird, crazy things. And as you know, the Denver airport has a lot of underground craziness. Yeah, that's true, in Las Vegas. They're actually putting in the hyperloop here now. So it's like-- Elon Musk's hyperloop. Yeah, so there's all that craziness going on. Yeah. So I'll go into a lot of the details as far as my life, as far as Peter, the insider, confirming a lot of stuff. And it's kind of crazy. In the last portion of the segment, like I said, we're going to be talking about some joint memory stuff that Jodie and I have both had that came up both during in session via QHHT. And Peter kind of hashed around some of this stuff, too, where he was like, well, you guys need to know these certain things. He was kind of like bullet pointing things. We're both kind of like, how the hell did he know that? Yeah, exactly. So I mean, he's doing the same thing that we do where we look at the records and pull this stuff up and kind of giving us the skinny on what he's seeing. So, right, right. And just being around each other, it activates certain recalls. Yeah. Well, we're going to take questions later, but somebody just asked, what do you think of Elon Musk? Could it be bad? Or mysterious anomaly? Yeah, yeah. The phrase that I'm using right now is mysteriously ambiguous because I don't know. I know he definitely wanted us to get away from using Russia in terms of rocketry and space access. He wanted the US to have its own commercialized program that we could have for ourselves. The second thing that I would say about him is, I mean, sure, he's a genius. So you never really know how to take the guy. I mean, he's kind of hard to understand where he's coming from sometimes. Right. Oh, be it, he has made comments about AI, how he dislikes AI, which I'm totally for, for his opinion, it's not for AI. Right, right. Secondly, and more important about it, I think the other thing we have to consider here, too, is that look at the impact he's trying to make on the environment with Tesla and his cars. So, sure, there's a lot of these things that he's trying to do to try to pull us out of the ditch, quote, unquote. But the comment I have to make is that there's also some definite weirdness with the psychology of the individual, so I'm not sure. I mean, I've never had a chance to be completely wrong about the guy. I haven't had a chance to sit on top. You know, like, hey, you want us to have a beer, right? Or listen down, chat with our drinks or something. Some ice water. Some ice water, whatever. But listen, I don't know how she has to do that. I think everybody has the same consensus. Honestly, it's like, you just really don't know how to take them. But I don't want to spend a whole lot of time on him. I just seen that pop up in the chat. But what I do want to talk about is space marines and the reality of super soldiers, time travel, all this stuff. And you guys just made a post recently about that. And you shared some links of some articles going all the way back to 2010, even a marine document in 2009, MCO, the Marine Corps Order, Marine Corps Space Policy, defining the process through which the Marine Corps will participate in Department of Navy and National Security Space activities. That was in 2009. And then there were some other articles related to that also. But off camera, we were talking about this document. Johan and the MCO, and you said this is like a rendition of the original, correct? It's a later revision. We had gotten a copy of this document from a client of ours when she had received it. And this is, again, a later revision document. What that means in the military terms is that's not the first revision. The first revision came out way before this, which tells you the Marine Corps are being tasked with this material. The second thing that I would say is go look at Project Lunex and go look at Project Horizon. There's already documentation and verbiage and they're talking about a unified space command in Project Horizon and having the same clearance as the Manhattan Project, which we know. Manhattan Project, none of those documents hit until 1995, 1996 or later. And that was way back in the '50s and '60s, you know? '40s. Yeah, that's true. So 50-year clearance. And right now, we're looking at those of us that have been in these programs, say in the '80s and '90s, like me and Jody in Utah, we're still within that 50-year window. So people are talking about, let's have all these disclosures, let's have all this release of information. It's like, well, we're still technically within the classified window. But this particular document came out. We've found almost every branch has a version of something like this. And they have later revisions that talk about their space policy, quote unquote, up until Space Force gets the green light, right? And we've also talked of this idea that Space Force did, in fact, not take over the tram that the board for the programs. Their control was not accepted, basically. So there's that aspect of this, too. Also, you know, these start dates with a lot of these documents, those are dates that they want us to believe are their start dates. But I always believe that they have started way earlier. Like, for instance, we were talking about the Manhattan Project, they say that the start date was August 13, 1942. I think there were things that started way before that. '20s and even earlier than that. So that's one thing that we need to remember. And like we mentioned, every auxiliary of the military has their document out. Also, something for people to remember. And possibly, if they want, subscribe to the Air Force Times, all the military newsletters or magazines, things of that nature. Because they will actually disclose some things. They keep us up to date. But I think a lot of people don't actually read that stuff. Or it definitely doesn't get any media coverage. So it's just kind of slipping through the cracks. People aren't noticing it. Like some of these articles you share, the Army is training the first batch of space Marines. That was just last year of July. Who heard that? Who read about that? Who remembers that article? I don't. We're not hearing about this stuff on the news. So it's pretty obvious. But it's all been there in plain sight. Like I said, going all the way back to 2010, popular mechanics, talking about things like time travel, super soldiers, even space Marines back then. And then futuristic gear that the Marines and the Navy were going to be using in space. Unmanned, not just in space, but unmanned helicopters, lasers, futuristic weaponry, all this type of stuff. It's all been there. It's all right there. And no one knows about it. It's their way of like, we technically disclosed it, even though they really-- Yeah. But they don't follow up on that, yeah. Exactly. And not just our country, but other countries. I mean, China has been preparing for this for a long time. Yeah, and I was going to say there's two things real quick I would say. China actually came out with a public disclosure about their super soldier for and made the news, which took the US by surprise a little bit. And Judy and I have said this for a long time during our videos, that we believe a lot of the stuff we're seeing in the news media, the normal news cycle, is nothing but diversion. Total distraction. Oh, so absolute distraction, because of this thing. If people knew this kind of stuff was going on, which is the articles that you're looking at, Tyler, they would have a completely different view of what we're talking about. Yeah. And I think that, as I mentioned before we actually went live, is one of the things, one of the reasons, rather, that I decided I wanted concrete evidence is because I had a family member who was like, you guys are doing crazy talk, you know? Like, this is this is bunk. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, this stuff is real. And I'm going to prove it to you. Of course, even naysayers with this type of evidence are still going to have their beliefs that say you guys are crazy. But this is stuff that is documented with the armed forces. We also have CIA documents talking about this, talking about looking glass, talking about so many projects, the gateway project, as far as people actually projecting themselves and then doing missions, off-world, all sorts of things. So there's ways that they are accessing assets and then doing whatever with them and using them. Yeah, absolutely. Right. And it's important to realize evidence means something different to everybody. And everybody has made up their mind what they determined to be solid concrete evidence. So evidence to one person might be bullshit to the next person. And then we see that everywhere right now. You know, people say, there's no sauce, there's no, you know, and people have confirmation bias also. They've already made up their mind on what they believe is true. So there's nothing you could show them to prove it otherwise because they'll just assume it's some sort of disinfo or something like that. There is a term for this, psychologically speaking, it's called cognitive dissonance. Right. And this is where we start getting into the whole argument of, well, are you just arguing because you don't want to believe it? Or are you arguing with us because you can't believe it? Exactly. You actually would accept this as reality, but it shattered your reality so badly that you can't go back to your whole way of thought. Your whole identity would be just shattered. And that's what we're seeing in our society is that as people have had these preconceived notions of what they thought was going on in the world and not the case. Yeah, exactly. They're too afraid of this reality being true. So they don't even want to go there at all. So it's a lot easier for them to just ridicule it. And oh, that's BS, just whatever. Yeah, that's crazy. Right. Well, and they're invested, people invest themselves so much into a narrative sometimes and it becomes their identity or a narrative or a belief system. Yeah. And what is-- I literally had somebody tell me-- yeah, I literally had somebody tell me, even if it is true, why would you want to look into this stuff? I'd rather just spend time with my grandkids and family and not know about it. And I'm like, are you kidding me? This is going on. Are you just going to bury your head in the sand? So you're head in the sand and-- Yeah, it's too scary. I have to recognize that question, I guess, what my direct way of answering that question. And you guys have seen my videos. I've done videos with you guys before, so Jody and I. I would much rather know what they've done, have done, and are doing to people. So they can put a fucking stop to it, finally. Yes. Or more to the point, at least give us our do. Meaning, if you're going to use assets that don't even realize they're being used, especially military assets in this particular manner, then compensate us for what you've done. The thing is, we've got articles on that stuff, too. Like Jody and I went and looked up court documents for people like-- I just found this one in Lancaster County. It was really recent, 2020. A guy actually was trying to take the CIA to court about the fact that he's got multiple clients that are all mass shooters claiming that they were mind-controlled by the CIA. And the CIA basically came back and said, we're not allowed to talk about that. And oh, yeah, that has happened in the past. And it's like, no, wait a minute. You're admitting this stuff, but yet you're saying that there's no recourse. There's no legal recourse against the federal government. But yet, you're saying this stuff is real. This is the kind of crap that we're talking about. It's like, why? Well, everybody. And aside from recourse, though, and aside from getting any compensation, I think it's a starting point for healing, you know, and for healing all those layers of a person. Right. Well, healing and just exposing the truth. Like, it has to be surfaced. It has to show itself before it can dark to light, basically. And so it's a process. So we're just trying to make people aware this in a large number of the population. We'll call bullshit on all this and understandably. Understandably 100% whenever I first heard about this stuff, you know, it's crazy. It takes a minute to wrap your head around it. And some people just never will. And, you know, it is what it is. Even the people who don't believe it, we're still planting seeds. They're still here in all these terminologies and all this stuff. So at some point, when they finally down the road, when they do hear about it so many times. And if you start coming out, they're going to come to people like us. Oh, you guys were right. You know, they're going to want to-- or if nothing else, they'll go onto Google or some search engine and say, oh, let me look up that pattern. Let me look up that document about the CIA put out. Let me look at that at least declassified information. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's so much you can just find yourself really easily that exactly it's-- And this is the other part of this whole discussion, too, that Jody and I were actually, I would say, complaining. But we were kind of like grumbling about it last night. What we find a lot of times when people make these comments trying to essentially deride us for what we believe is our truth. What they want is they want someone to spoon feed them the truth. They're not willing to go to the links to which Jody and I go to in terms of doing the research, pulling up the documents, pulling all these articles down that you guys are looking at, all this stuff. We're pulling all of it down, trying to figure out what makes some sense of it. And the bottom line is is that there are a few people, but very few people are willing to actually do the work, the leg work, to come to certain conclusions. Meaning, is this real or not? And what we're seeing is essentially is that there is some basis for what we believe to be the programs and then actually operating and still operating. Yeah, my hat is off to those people or those organizations who are all about disclosure. And they're actually FOIA-ing these people like the CIA and saying, oh wait a second, with the Gateway Project, you left out page 25, we want that. Why did you not disclose page 25? That has like really important information on it. So we're still waiting for page 25 for the Gateway Project. Yeah, so you guys actually FOIAed it or somebody else did. Somebody else did, but I was just reading about it. But I'm just saying like my hat is off to them. I'm so proud of people that are doing that. When I was reporting, I would FOIA organizations who were trying to keep the lid on things. And I was like, oh no, no, this stuff needs to be exposed. So, I mean, I know we would be doing that if they weren't. And I'm sure we will in the future. And we've used the CIA. They actually have a reading room. It actually has FOIAed documents in it. They believe in themselves released. You've got sites like the Black Vault, but John Greenwall Jr. Yeah, I know about the Black Vault, yeah. Yeah, he's done a great job with his site. I went there many times looking for information because he's, okay, so he's probably enemy number one with the CIA because just because he has FOIAed so many documents, they're probably likely to see his stuff come across so like autographed. So, they know they have to give it up at some point. They're just giving the keys eventually by here. Yeah, there you go. So we have somebody in the chat that thinks you guys are feds. Is that true? (laughing) You're so fed. Right. You guys are clearly feds. I don't know. So here's my thing. So here's my thing. I want my paycheck. You're right. (laughing) We'll not be having, we'll not be having some of the requests for donations and stuff that we've been having about that paycheck. Funny story about getting a headshot. We had a photographer who was like, you guys give off this like interesting Russian spy, like a woman. What? (laughing) And here's the thing, right? So what we didn't tell this woman was is that two of our, one of my alters and one of her alters had to actually have Russian backgrounds. Russian go. Come front loaded Russian, Russian material. Yeah. So here we are like, so she said a bit kind of look at each other both like, what? You know, that was weird. That's actually something I want to bring up. You know, this term quantum echo that you use or bleed through, as I like to call it. So when you say quantum echo, Jody, explain to me what you mean by that. So for instance, okay, we know about the alternate timeline, right? Where Germany won the war and we didn't, okay? World War II. So the fact that I grew up in a small Northern California town called Weimar, that's kind of a quantum echo because I have an alter that spent time in that timeline. And... - Well you spent time in that timeline. - Yeah, I spent time in that timeline. So it's a little bizarre how you start following the breadcrumbs and the bleed throughs and quantum echoes as I call them. And you just start going, this is insane, you know, how there's just these cross references of experiences. So... - You get to the point, okay, so Jody and I have both worked as private investigators. Let's make that clear. So the person's asking, have I been our Jody and I law enforcement, have we ever worked as law enforcement dancers now? The question that you're asking is, have we ever been like federal government? Do we do we work for a federal agency? The answer is no. Where does two people trying to do research on the federal agency did to us? - Right. - Secondly, yes. We both have worked as private investigators, which is why we're probably annoying as many people as we are because we're constantly pulling on threads, trying to get information from folks. And we know how to be insistent about asking questions with certain people. - Like I investigated people who, as far as attacks fraud, as far as insurance fraud, things of that nature. And that was during a time period when I kind of put the pause button on my reporting career. And so I was doing that a little bit, so. - Right. And most of the stuff I did was around, I guess, infidelity and some corporate stuff too. I did some bodyguard work for some big celebrity people, too, I think political people. But the point is that we do have that kind of background, but the idea is that we're using those skillsets to kind of dig into, where is all this hidden information out? 'Cause we know, we know for a fact. If someone gave me like 15 minutes on separate net right now with an access clearance to get in there, I would have a heyday because I would be like, yep, grabbing that, grabbing that, grabbing that, grabbing that, grabbing that. 'Cause I already know the areas I would be going to to find this information, the departments, the agencies and the military groups I would be looking at. Because I've done enough research I know who holds the keys to certain segments of this. And that's the thing people don't realize is all these programs, they're all compartmentalized. So you're not gonna go to one agency and find the quote unquote golden goblet or the grail. You're not gonna find it with one agency, you're gonna find a piece of it. And what we're doing is we're trying to rebuild the grail. - Yeah, let me real quick give you another example of a quantum echo. So it was around 2015 timeframe. And I was doing some research on electromagnetic manipulation for mind control and things of that nature. And I was looking up a guy named Dr. Ross 80. And I found that he was kind of like the person at the very beginning with EMF and microwaves and all of that for, and the CIA pretty much enlisted him to do all of that with mind control and assets. And I was just like, okay, this is crazy. I wanna interview this guy. Found out though that he had passed and spirit told me he has a son. And I was like, wait, what? Okay, so I start searching like does he have a son? Ross 80, does he have a son? Yes, he had a son, Dr. Jeffrey 80 who was also a very renowned neuroscientist, neurosurgeon, in fact, in the Bay Area of California. Guess where he lived? A mile from where I lived. So crazy. So I go into his office. He wasn't there, but I left a note. I asked him to call me. He ends up calling me a couple days later. He was very guarded. He was like, I need to know who you were for. I need to know who you are. Then we finally connected and he said, what you're asking me is top secret. I cannot tell you anything about my father's work. I can't tell you I worked with him in labs during my post doctorate when I worked for the University of Colorado at Boulder. So right then when he told me that though, I knew this was true. I knew all of this stuff was true. So yeah. - So someone asked what are some of the specific subjects one should FOIA if they were so inclined? - You kind of broke up Tyler. I heard something about what are the specific subjects we would FOIA? - Yeah, not you in particular, if somebody wanted to do this on their own, like what would be a good request? - Oh gosh, there's so many. - Well, here's the thing. Here's the way you have to split this hair, okay? You have to split the hair as to what's already happening and what's currently happening. - And also what's already been FOIAed. - Right, yeah. - So you're not duplicating efforts. - Exactly. - So you can go look at black bolt and look up subjects like super soldiers. You can look up time dilation, time travel, project looking glass, project Pegasus. All these projects essentially talk about, even a project Montauk even. - Yeah, it goes off the experiment. - Yeah, using alien tech and human tech to peer into and look at the timelines. The next thing again, we talked about this whole idea of cloning, right? So think about the number of projects that we've ran here in the U.S. We know that the U.S. Senate basically banned cloning, human cloning. But we also know for a fact the U.S. military has ignored some of those bans in the past and so is the CIA. - Of course. - So there's a high probability that that didn't stop. We know that this has been going on for a while. - Well, the Japanese were the first to do that. They were the first to clone a human. We know that's medical fact. That was after World War II. So there's just a lot of stuff. We kind of look at this and go, okay, where is the arc or the trajectory pointing us, right? I would say the trajectory is pointing us to certain subjects. For example, these documents that you're looking at with the space marine stuff, right? That's the outward facing element of what the U.S. military is okay with telling people. That means you're seeing the tip of the iceberg and the bottom of the iceberg is buried. - Right, right. - The second thing I would say is again, looking glass Pegasus Montauk tells you, those three projects would tell you that right there alone, the CIA has a long-term interest in doing remote viewing like gateway. They've had a long-term interest in actually trying to get people to be able to time travel. And by the way, if you look at this project in the Netherlands right now with their ability to do quantum communications, we're shooting packets of these electrons, they're actually finding out that they can actually cause an electron to travel backwards in time and move to different places on the timeline by adjusting certain quantum states. So if you're looking for the modern-day equivalent of, is this sort of stuff possible? The answer is yes, they've already proven that. So there's a lot of stuff out there that echoes exactly what we've been saying. The question is, is that you have to understand that a lot of this stuff is not public-facing. They don't want it to be public-facing 'cause they feel the public's not ready for it. - Right. - They want the people to be happy. - Yeah, and actually, with the things that you were just talking about, think about sacred sites, think about portals, lay lives, things of that nature, because the government will often take an interest in that for time travel type things. - Mimicate. - Yeah. And things that may have been done in other countries that maybe the United States has banned, but they're willing to collaborate with countries where it's okay. - Look, for example, in Japan and South Korea on the cloning side, right? South Korea has no ban on cloning. They never have. You look at Japan, they've never had a ban on cloning. So this is where all these cloning experiments really kicked off was over there and have continued to roll. They have been rolling for a while. The question always has been around, what happens when you have a hundred percent perfect clone, then what, right? And this is where Jody and I have been trying to find information on thought transference and thought conveyance, right? Because we know, again, there are tons of experiments out there about copying human thought to computer, copying human thought to other biological material. Then we've seen it, we've seen the research on it. We know since the '80s, the stuff's been going on, so. - Also, it is true, follow the money. Also, as a reporter, I always would look at what reporters and journalists doing true journalism, who out of those journalists have been killed? And why? There's a reason, there is a reason why. They are trying to keep them quiet for some reason. - And the ones that aren't quiet are usually monarched. - Or they're in so way compromised. - So what's interesting is, you're talking about cloning, being banned, are you talking about human cloning, or just cloning human cloning? So there's still, if you walk down the street and ask, like most people don't know that human cloning is possible, probably. - Possible, yeah. - There's probably a lot of people that just don't even believe that. And then there's information out there where they've literally had to ban it in certain countries. So this is the type of stuff we're talking about. It's all out there. And then especially like stuff about the programs, like you're not gonna go online and find an article or anything to back that up, you know? And that's where you lose people too. You can't just tell them to go research this because how do you research something that apparently doesn't exist? - You may though, Tyler, actually, there's new information coming up all the time. In fact, just before we got on here, I said to Joanna, I said, go look up and see if there's anything on looking glass right now. And he's like, I don't think there is. And I said, just look because there might be something new that came out and he found two things. So it's always evolving. And I think as the collective consciousness is waking up, there's more things that will leak into the collective. So I would always look and I would always encourage people to keep looking, even if you think like, oh, there's not gonna be anything out there. There could be something. - Okay, I agree with you actually. It's just hard, you know, for one, don't use Google, use Brave. I found out Brave is a great search engine. Even a podcast, even DuckDuckGo. I did a three-way comparison one time and I was finding all kinds of stuff on Brave. B-R-A-V-E, it's the orange lion. It's amazing compared to DuckDuckGo and Google. - DuckDuckGo and now they were gonna start censoring and stuff, and that's when everyone was like, "Oh, well, time to leave." - Right, yeah. - So I'm gonna get to a couple of questions here since we advertise this as our Q and A. Let's get to some people's questions here. Do Jody and Johan have any knowledge on secret programs that disguise as gifted programs in schools? - I think they are disguised. - So the answer to that is, again, two part. You have kids who have, I think, tons of abilities and gifts naturally when they come into school, especially kindergarten for second grade. What happens is you have, you do have, like, Jody went through a program when she was in school because a teacher identified her as being a quote unquote gifted student. So she immediately got pulled into that program. And I think she's probably screened for that probably as a kid. I was never a part of one of those because I was considered a disciplinary issue. So I was constantly in the principal's office like every other day because of disciplinary problems because of my home life. So I was never given the opportunity to step into those programs, but I know they did exist. And I know that when I got into, I would say, but you guys are called middle school, I guess. That's where, for me, I started getting into, like, the AP classes, the CP and AP classes when I started developing those. And that's when I actually took off because I actually was in a class that was at my speed. So, yeah, so-- - So I'm listing it as three different categories. You have the disciplinary issues with the elementary kids. You have the special ed, which they're not really special ed. They're just bored. And the disciplinary issues are just 'cause they're bored. And then you have the, I was in the GATE program, gifted and talented education program. I completely did not fit in with the rest of the kids. I was just like, I was like from a different planet. So like my mind would be like up in the clouds and I was this complete nerd. And I just was like, I don't know what this world is, but I do not belong here. And so my mind was on very intellectual things, artistic, creative things. And I just felt like a complete outcast. So there's various things. And I think that either a teacher can identify these things, psychologists can identify these things. I think what you, like parents need to be careful of though, is if a psychologist identifies some of these things, that's when you have to be careful, especially with kids who have disciplinary issues because they can then steer them and try to manipulate them into certain things, certain programs. And that's where you want to be, that's where you wanna be careful. And it's sort of the special ed 'cause I know so many, in fact, I have been a substitute teacher for special ed. And these kids are so freaking smart, but they're put in special ed because they want to, they want to have either the one-on-one attention or they want to get through some of the courses faster, actually. So yeah, and/or the teacher has a classroom that's so big, they're not getting the attention they need for certain subjects. - Right, and they're probably, you know, like this person, the way they phrased in the question, are they disguised as like a recruitment process or something? Most likely, yeah, that's the case. - I agree. - I would agree that yes, they are probably the case, yes. - Where do we have here? Did you guys go through the Akashik records to understand your connection? If so, how does that work? Are you giving small bits of info at first to make sure you can handle it? - It was like a fire hose for me. So it just was kind of like, like, let me know, yeah. - So I think I've said this before in some of my previous video and the answer is sort of, she got fire hose treatment and so did I, but what I would say is, is that the way it started, again, was this conversation I had with Ted and he basically said, well, who's your divine counterpart? And I'm kind of like, wait, what does that mean? - Right. - 'Cause I honestly did not believe in the whole twin flame, so thing, I didn't believe that in that crap. So I was like, I shouldn't say crap. It wasn't, that wasn't something I personally believed in for me, I can say it that way. But what I did believe in was that I knew based on, for Sprigmire's work, that the idea of twinning did exist. And when he said that, I went, okay, maybe I need to investigate this a little bit, 'cause something they're kind of pulled on a string for me. Fast forward two years, and of course, I went through my horse and then met Jody. And at that point, that's when I was like, we've been chatting as friends before this. And we realized that that connection was actually there because of some idiosyncrasies that started showing up and we got in person, we both were like, she's like, hey, do you remember such and such? It's like, we, yeah, when I was like five, I had an exact dream and we're both like, that's not a dream. (laughs) Because we had the exact same dream. It's like, that's when you start getting into the difference between, okay, it's not just Akashic records, it's not just like, you know, gut feeling. You're both having the exact same dreams, you're both in the exact same experiences, you're both having the same recall. - Exactly, yeah. And I've actually experienced stuff like that as well. And it's, once you're experiencing it, you know, it's pretty profound, actually. Another question, can Jody and Will elaborate on Project Asgard put in place by the United Alliance Command? - Yeah. - Yeah, real quick though, before we go to that, I was just gonna say, meeting Johan for the first time. There was all these activations and it was like firehose. And along with recalls though and activations, I would see certain things because I'm what they call a quantum astropath in the program. So you're able to connect, not only with Akashic, but you're able to connect with like every planet, like colonies, different species, all at the same time, different timelines. Like you can go into a coordinate of time and like a still frame, like on a, like a what do you call movie type thing. I can't think of the word film strip. There we go. - Yeah, right. - You go into like a frame and you can like look into it and see certain things. So it's like, I would see like present, past, future, all these different dimensions of time at the same time. And I'd just be like, whoa, it'd be kind of like overwhelming. And then I'd be like, do you remember this? Do you remember this? And what was crazy though is that I would see this alternative timeline in Germany, but then I'd also see stuff with like knockwaffen stuff, just all these things, it was wild. So for me, it was definitely a firehose experience, but there was a little of the Akashic, but then there's also like if you have certain abilities as well, those play into it. - Okay. - So to answer your question directly on the Asgard front, the way Project Asgard as the way it was explained to me came about was this gentleman we call the old man, this admiral, who at one point had been, I met him when he was in knockwaffen or deer, dark fleet. He recruited me and a lot of others. And then when he defected out of knockwaffen and went to United Alliance Command Space Alliance, he basically pulled us with him because he knew that we were loyal to him. One of the programs he implemented once United Alliance Command got set up was they wanted to put in what they called a guardian fail safe, meaning a group of 2.0 clones with individuals inside those clones that basically had near infinite lifetime, near infinite lifetime, about 150,000 years. Now, those individuals were chosen because of their personality disposition, they wouldn't make rash decisions, and they would definitely protect earth and humankind. When I was getting out of the programs, they were actually propping that program up, they had just started propping it up, meaning they were putting people into, they were testing on them to see is it viable or not. So when Ted and I first talked about this, he asked me about it. I said, yes, that program is real. And this is what I remember of it because he had a memory of staying there and the old man was talking to him, the three of us were actually looking at a clone being tested on. And they were actually doing the genetic editing to remove all the garbage DNA out of it. Now, the parallel to this is when you look at USS ArcCorp, right? Jackie Kinney, who I believe is the producer for Tim Rodriguez, right? - Jackie Kinner, she's speaking at a conference also, yeah. - She's speaking at our conference, you guys should come hear her in her story. She talks about USS ArcCorp. Now, that's the leering ET version of what Project Asgard is, essentially. They're trying to get a pool of DNA that is completely 100% unaltered DNA that we may know comes from, what we call the prime source, the root stock, because they're cousins of ours genetically speaking. And their DNA has been messed with because one of the wars they've been at, just like our DNA has been messed with. So they're in the process of trying to rebuild that genetic stock in that program. And that's where like this whole idea, like I think Joni and I each have one point where everybody is about NOAA. - Yeah, so Dan Winter Show, I pointed out that I got this download about the biblical story of NOAA and NOAA's Arc. And actually it had to do with the ArcCorp. - Yeah, there's no-- - So it was like a code name. - So A-H is actually a project name, and the DNA and the two by two is actually associated with the ArcCorp. - And NAOH, by the way, for those of you that are in the chemistry, that's actually an ammonia coolant used to hypercool things down, need to store something in cryo-freeze. So it's interesting how NOAA then becomes this a code word for putting things also in a hyper-freeze too, inside the quote unquote arc. - Yeah, the thing is, and I would say as an aside, those who may feel that religion, the Bible, scriptures, all of that, don't have any place in spirituality. I will say this, it does because there are layers, if you look down into the layers, you will see how it could be a cover or a code for something else and in the programs. - Right, there's people that say the Bible, or even any scripts like that are written in code. And if you know how to read them, you're gonna get an entirely different message out of it. - There's a lot of truth in there if you know how to sift through. Well, there's a lot of like mistranslations and misinterpretations of the trans, so as long as you can like sift through that stuff and then get to the good stuff, and there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of truth in the Bible and all ancient texts. - Yeah, discernment, yep. - Okay, we have a bunch of questions coming in, so try and get this made as we can. Can you guys please elaborate on why Peter, the insider would be credible? Why do you guys find him credible? - Incredible, why do we find him credible? - So I have two answers to that question actually. The first question is that I actually served with Peter and Kruger. Kruger mercenary corps, if you go to ACIO-official.org and click on World Wide Military Corps, Kruger's listed on there by ACIO as a positive faction trying to protect humankind and a lot of our colonies and interests. Yes, they were a German-derived mercenary corps, unfortunately, but they've decided to side with humanity and not stick with their original ideals. So that's good. To answer your question directly, I served with him in there. I actually have memories of a guy and I don't wanna get into physical appearances because I'm trying to respect Peter's privacy because he's a very security conscious individual based on what's happening and what he does for his work. But first time I spoke with him, I actually physically, well, I described to him what I physically remembered seeing of him in the programs. And he started crying. And he's like, how did you know that? I said, because I've seen your face only one time. That's when you took your visor off and we were making a joke. This other guy that called Commander Meguma, I said, you were cracking a joke about him and calling him Captain Sushi Mount or something. And he started laughing and he's like, because only you would know that. And see, this is what I'm talking about. It's like, there's certain things he's told other people that I wasn't around when he told these other people and here I am telling him the exact same story as confirmation that that memory's real. - Right. - Secondly and more importantly, when he's pulled up records on Jody and I specifically, both independently and together, there are things that he has said that there's no way he could have known because we've never publicly said it. - That's exactly what I was gonna say. - I never publicly posted it. I've never publicly talked about it. I probably would never publicly talk about it. But yet he's telling us stuff that we know for a fact has happened. We've even documented it, we've wrote it down, we've researched it, went through all of that stuff. So the fact that his information is just personally verifiable, that's the first big thing. Second big thing, I would say with Peter, is that you look at his interactions with David Wilcox, for example, right? That goes all the way back to 2004. For all of you guys who have listened to David Wilcox, listened to CG and all these guys, his information goes all the way back to 2004. Now, if you look at the stuff he's told David Wilcox, David Wilcox admits he's got like an 85% accuracy rating. So if you're looking for some form of verification that he's right, generally speaking, I would say that's a pretty good verification. And I'm not saying that to blow Peter's ego up in the air, make him blow it even bigger than it is. What I'm saying is we love Peter. But the point is, what I would say is, is that I'm trying to point out the fact that there's an outside source outside of the four of us, that has in fact tried to verify what Peter has said, improved it to be true. He's actually done the research, you guys know how David is. He's a pretty thorough researcher. I'll point it real quick on David, so what he does, so he has, for whatever reason, lots of insiders over the years have come to David, for whatever reason, and he says this, and they'll tell him things that they've never told, basically anyone, or it's at least not online anywhere, they've told maybe one person other than him. And he won't release that information, and this is how he knows if another insider is true, 'cause they'll say information that he's gotten from other insiders that have never told anyone else, and like you said, that's probably what happened with Peter. He probably told him a bunch of stuff. - Probably one of those lines. - He lined up with all these other things, so he's like, okay, this guy's legit, yeah. - Okay, yeah, and that's the same with me, is he confirmed just so many things that I had never said to him ever. And so it was just like, so many things just ran, down the list that he was saying. But what I will say to other people who have either a had experience with Peter, or they're just hearing narratives about Peter, whether he is aligned with their mission, their purpose, their energy, that is for them to decide. That's up to their discernment. And is he gonna be on your path? Is he not, that's definitely up for your discretion? Absolutely. - Two of the things that I would say I hear the most, people start questioning Peter's, the veracity of Peter's information is this. One, Peter tends to talk metaphorically and very cryptically for a reason, because he's trying to essentially encode the information in such a way that when people finally figure out what he's talking about, it's delivered at the right time. Right, he does that on purpose. So you have to understand that when you're cognitively talking to him, unless you ask him a hyper direct question, say, give it to me straight, like black and white, he's gonna try to encode this somehow, because that's what he's being told to do, is how he operates. - Right, I know somebody like that as well. - The second thing I would say with Peter is this really quickly. Is that a lot of folks come at him because he quote unquote doesn't speak English, or he's not American, or he's not whatever. The bottom line is folks is that, yes, he's an insider. And the funny part is, is that he actually served with native special forces when I was over in the European theater. So this again is like this, we talked about quantum echoes earlier, right? He and I started chatting about our Earth based military experience, we're both vets. And he's like, well, which unit were you with in this particular arena? 'Cause I named off the operation I was in. And he's like, wait a minute. What was your call sign on the radio? And I told him, he's like, okay, we've chatted on the radio. - Wow. - So this is a kind of stuff you can't make up 'cause he was telling what his call sign was. I'm like, wait a minute. It's like, that was a check unit. He was, yes, because that was my unit. I'm like, oh. So it's like these things where you can't make that kind of stuff up, it's like so hyper specific to that situation unless you're there and you know it. - Right, and these are types of things we have to go by fortunately and unfortunately in this situation when it comes to this information. Because sometimes you're just not gonna find any document. No matter where you look on a specific thing. And you know, we're always connecting the dots. That's why we like to interview everyone. And we like to hear what they have to say and what their experience was. And then we take all that and we connect the dots and we come up, we draw our own conclusions. - But the funny thing about that is there actually is a lot of documents and a lot of that kind of proof that points to all this stuff being true. - Right. - But those type of people don't know that. They're saying they've never done the research themselves. They just say, oh, there's no proof. - Right. - I don't see anything. There's nothing. - I mean like specific stuff like quantum echoes and stuff though. - Yeah, that kind of stuff. - That experience like you take that type of stuff. It just makes it valid. Okay. Sorry, I keep trying to get to the next question here. There's one. Where was I at? Can Johan elaborate on the enforcers role as it relates to the programs? My father said he was in it before he died. - Okay. So essentially when it comes to clone types, right? Essentially they look at a person's personality, their disposition, their training. If you guys remember me talking about my early, early on testimony, I said I used a certain keyword, right? That keyword relates to essentially your job function in the programs. And I should tell is the folks who are screening you, where you're supposed to go and what downloads you get and how you're programmed to train, right? What I found out was is that essentially there's four or five primary job types within the programs in terms of how they program and deal with people. Enforcer type specifically is kind of like they create the structure of the programs and they keep it in line. So what you'll find is a lot of folks who are like me. They were command officers. They were executive officers. I was named to comp to the guy in charge of knock-waffing for a while. I was, you know, high-mucking muck in UAC and space alliance for a while. This is the kind of stuff you'd see an enforcer doing because he's making sure that all the protocols are being followed. That's what enforcers do. Now, if you're a lower rank, for example, when I came in to knock-waff and his lieutenant, one of the things that my job was a security officer. So as an enforcer, if someone stepped out of a line, my job is to make sure to put them back in line. Or let's say the captain said, okay, we have an asset that's rogue. We need to go find that rogue asset. We'd assemble a unit. We'd go track down this asset. We'd recover the asset, which means we're bringing somebody's live or dead carcass back to the ship. And then we're dealing with it in whatever way we have to deal with it. An enforcer does these types of tasks. That's their job. They have one of the toughest jobs in my opinion out there because they have to do things that everybody else negatively remembers when they have the recalls. Everybody else has memories about me, for example. Like I've had people directly tell me, this thing happened. I wrecked this vehicle. I did such and such. It was whatever bad thing it was. And you came in and grilled me, and I crapped my pants the minute you walked in the door. It's like, okay, so that's the actual memory you have of me is you crapped your pants and I walked in the door really. You know, it makes me feel bad, but that's the job title I had. That was part of what my personality type is. I was an enforcer type. I made sure the rules were followed. - So here's a quantum echo in this realm. So we had a counselor who said to us, you know, you seem like the animator and you seem like the interrogator. (laughing) I'm like, what? - So I was like, he was even getting the vibe about. - Good cop background. - Yeah, exactly. - It's so interesting 'cause, you know, here I've been an anchor reporter and I have put politicians to task. You know, I'd be like, well, what do you mean by that? Like, you're promising all this stuff to taxpayers and like, well, how are you gonna do that? You know? - Yeah. - So. - You know, what's funny, I've never even shared this with you, but I've had a dream with you, you know, on experience, whatever the hell you wanna call it, where you and a black gentleman were taking me back to my house in high school after some mission. And you were bringing me back almost like drop, like it was like the end of my time or something. I don't know. And I remember you guys dropping me off and I remember you, Johann being dick. (laughing) - So I mean, you weren't friendly at all. - There you go. - Question really quickly. Did you say a black-haired woman and was it her? - No, no, a black gentleman. - Oh, a black gentleman. - Oh, Lincoln. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say. - So the guy you were probably talking with Lincoln Clay, his butt's almost seven foot big tall black guy, right? And then you got, yes, I constantly am getting blamed for being usually the dick in whatever the bad episode was. I'm sorry to folks. I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings, right? Or I put a bullet in you or whatever I did. I'm sure I'm comically gonna pay for that at some point, but I'm sorry I did that stuff. It was required by the job for the job title, so. - And the reason he asked if it was a dark-haired woman, he misunderstood you at first, but one of my alters, Victoria, has dark hair. - Oh, okay. - She said, "Do you remember that?" - Yeah. - So those folks who remember us aboard ship, her alter Julia Rain actually had dark hair as well. So good, sorry. - Sorry, there's so many questions coming in. But that's interesting. I had no idea that, what'd you call him Lincoln? I've never even heard you talk about him before. - That's corroboration. - Actually, you'll hear Anthony Zender talk about him as well. - Okay. - Yeah. - Yeah, but it was an interesting experience. Okay. How strong are Draco's compared to a regular human? Where are the chances of fighting or fleeing from them? - Okay. So if you're, let's break this down in terms of people who are couch potatoes, people who are average, and people who are athletic, okay? So we'll break it down that way first off. In terms of sheer physical strength, a Draco is about five to seven times stronger than a human being, okay? Especially as her size increases, you look at like a prince or the cleaner self, immensely strong physically. Maybe even 10 to 15 times stronger, depending upon the individual. So if you have someone who's an athlete, they might be able to get away from a Draco quote unquote, but they're not going to be able to do that indefinitely because a Draco just has more endurance and strength. They're designed to hunt their predators. - And aside from that, there's the layer of their crazy scionics, which is hard to endure in their presence. - So if you don't have, if you don't have the two point of bodies, typically it will edit the genetics a little bit to add Draco DNA in there so that people can withstand the scionic onslaught as it were. And what happens a lot of times when you're in a 1.0 body, and for example, CG talked about this even in his own testimony where he got pulled to a location, he was introduced to this prince who was a Draco prince and basically everybody in the room was awash and psychic, there was being psychically flooded. And he said it was really hard even staying in the room. And that's exactly what happens is that the first experiences the Germans had both on the Yellow Sea and the Mars were these Draco who essentially almost forced them to the ground because they were essentially psychically raping them constantly trying to figure out who they were. And that's how they work. That's how they function. They do full essence transfer. So I would say in terms of physicality, they're very strong. Now, I would say this, in terms of the way we think in terms of creative abilities, they're not as creative as we are. So it would be kind of like you could look at it if you wanna look at all the Schwarzenegger versus Terminator, if you were a creative person, you might be able to pull that off and kind of maybe kill the Draco. I do know myself and a few others who have killed princes and other high ranking Draco, it's not unheard of, but it's hard. You have to really, really be on your A-game around the Draco. - I had a crazy experience with a Draco, actually. So I was living in Oregon at the time and this Draco came into my room through a portal. And that night I had been studying about EMF stuff and Dr. A.D. and all that kind of stuff. And I purposely put my phone in the microwave because I read that that would stop it. So this Draco apparently took my phone out of the microwave in this recall and put it right next to my head like this. And I remember I was going like this, like trying to bat it away, like go away. And all of a sudden my daughter comes in and she's like just encapsulated in this golden light. And she's like, Mom, what's wrong? What's going on? And I was like, this thing won't go away. And she's like, it's okay, there's nothing there now. And I was like, what the heck was that all about? So, I mean, my daughter and I are very, very connected. So it was almost like she came from clear across the country, like Astraly and like held protect me from whatever was going on. And then fast forward, I found that I had brain tumors, two brain tumors on my pituitary plan. So we had to like help clear that, but that was crazy. - So they mentally they're predators. So you have to understand them, go ahead, sorry. - Oh, no problem at all. I feel compelled to ask about inner earth for some reason. Can you ask them their knowledge about it? And if it's related to the SSPs current or otherwise? - So yeah, I know at least five species, I guess, that all occupy what we call the honeycomb, the inner earth. So you've got CG and Emery Smith, who both have talked about this at varying points in their testimonies. And what I know of them is you've got, first off, you have a very primitive reptilian race that lives there. Looked a lot like Velociraptors from the way it was explained to me on the glass pads. The second group that lives there was what, I guess, okay, so CG's calling them the N-Shar. I didn't, I've never heard that term, but I know the description he gave and the description, I saw this one race match very closely to that. So maybe that's his way of controlling the narrative that way, I don't know. But that group specifically, he's saying that it was us coming back 20 million years to protect us. I actually believe that it was actually an ET species that came from the planet that came there to protect us. And they're staying underground to stay away from the Galactic Federation because of what happened with the Atlantis Lemuria and all that. - So my experience with Inner Earth has to do with Mount Shasta in that location. So my mom's grandmother, so my great grandmother, she basically grew up in a little small town called Dunsmere under the shadow of Mount Shasta, which is a beautiful area. And they read a lot about Edgar Cayce and the law of one and all of that. And so they kind of grew up with those teachings. So I've always had this connection with Mount Shasta, with Telos, with Agartha, with Adama and all of that. And so. - That's your third group. - Yeah, so that's been my experience with communicating with them and actually having experiences going in Mount Shasta and communicating with them. - Yeah, the fourth group would be Chambalto, or what some people would push. - Chambalto, Changer law, that area into that. That'd be your fourth group. And that's a mix of ETs, by the way. It's not just one particular group. It's a mix of ETs that have been working with the monks who live into bed and those people willing to travel there. So people who are certain vibrational rate, like fourth density and higher usually. The fifth group is actually what some folks would deem to be, again, this, again, this fifth group I'm kind of putting in the mythical category, quote unquote, this would be like the Cthulhu mythos, the old ones. There is some speculation that that is actually based on a real species. That was a interdimensional species, highly dangerous species, 'cause they wipe out planets. They're like, basically like planetary eaters. So if you believe in that sort of a thing, then you can consider them a fifth group as well. So yeah, there's, we know at least five big groups here on Earth that are still currently here and operating here. The question we, what I've always had is when Atlantis and Lemiree were dealt with by the Galactic Federation, where did those people go to, right? And we hear lots of stories and our mythologies and our religions all over the world about these individuals who show up with white hair and light skin, teaching the folks how to have society, culture, mathematics, science, all this stuff. I believe these individuals are the outcasts from these two particular colonies. And those colonies were both leering and descent. They're from the leering, the dissidents that landed here. Now, you could also throw in, by the way, I guess a sixth group who are throwing the pre-atamites, going throw them in there. You could say they're also another group, but we don't actually know of any of them living here. We know that some of their genetics is in our system. We know that the cabal worships the hell out of them, but for some reason. But that would be potentially a sixth group. - So in my experience with Inner Earth, when I've actually been there with the group of Telos and the Dama and all of them, there's been a beautiful main crystal that anchors everything and the frequencies. There's other crystals that they work with for healing. It's almost like in the air, so to speak. There's music. There's these beautiful-- - That's like a tone. - And light frequencies. It's a really high vibration place where I've been. The other group that we know from this realm, they had tunnels, which was called The Rat Line, that went all the way down to South America and stuff. So there's that aspect as well. - So real quick, before I get to the next question, you're referring to the Galactic Federation. Obviously, everybody's heard of it by now. I've heard certain people say that, yes, there is one, but that's not what it's called. And anybody who says that they're getting information from the Galactic Federation, that's like the PSYOP, because the real group is called something else. I've just heard that one time for, I don't even, honestly, I don't even remember where I heard it. Can you comment on that? - So Peter and I have chatted about this ad nauseam. He looks at, 'cause he actually deals with, there's three councils, we deal with the deal of Earth specifically, there's a council of 20, council of 12 and a council of five. And everyone knows the council of five, they've been very adamant about protecting Terra, protecting Earth, protecting us, because they see us worthy of continuing our evolution and trying to get us to that Kardashev Scale 1.0 rating, right? Now, the thing that he has said to me is that he believes that the GFW, while it is real, it is still very defunct, meaning that it's kind of like, if you look at the GFW as Europe before the EU, that's the way the GFW is looked at by a lot of the alien species now. Yes, it's real, but it is very politically defunct. And the EU would be kind of like the council of 20, like the council of 20 has kind of taken over, grabbed up some of the more positive members and were kind of trying to work together still, right? That's what we see happening is these councils have kind of stepped in. Yes, the GFW is real, quote unquote. But it doesn't have the political sway that it used to anymore. So I wouldn't go, I don't know that I would go as far as to say that if someone was talking to them, that they're getting negative information, bad information. I think that is solely dependent upon the person who's doing the channeling. And Jodie and I talked about astral hygiene to wear a blue in the face. Very, very important. If you're doing any sort of energy work, channeling work, any sort of like, you know, anything like that, you've got it ground, you've got to clear, you got to make sure that none of your negative stuff is getting in the way of the message. And we see a lot of folks online who aren't doing that astral hygiene and it's mucking with the message. We actually just talked about this and I was actually getting something, a download that although the Galactic Federation of Worlds may be dismembered or defunct, so to speak, I was getting that a lot of the representatives and councils were trying to get together to try to bring unity back. And they were trying to, you know, talk amongst each other and say, how can we represent and bring unity to something so we're not so scattered and we don't have all these agendas and instead we can unify. So that's what I was getting. - When I asked Peter directly about the GFW and what caused it to be defunct, the statement he made to me was he said, Atlantis and Lemuria were the cause. Because of the way that whole thing was handled, because of the way the Draco pushed that issue and caused the light ships to destroy those two colonies. So there was no more of an issue here. The way that was handled, it basically split a lot of the species between people who supported that idea of non-interference and people who didn't support that idea and wanted the Draco off their back. And that split is what actually fractured the GFW down the middle. So. - I had never heard that actually. A lot of this stuff about the GFW I'm unfamiliar with. Just, I don't have the same information you do, but it's very, it's fascinating to me because we hear it more and more now. It's just like, it's just a common term in the disclosure community now. When years ago, I don't know. Do you have any idea when that term first surfaced? Like what year? - First, the first time I actually read it was actually, I came up with the lady's name is, she did the pillars of event here where it was called the, I came up with the name, Ashanna Dean. - Ashanna Dean, yeah. She worked with a lady who did a ton of channeling back before she published her books. I was trying with the lady's name was, but she was the first person I heard actually used that term in a recorded method where I actually heard the recording later on and went, what is that about, right? Because again, I was interested in sci-fi stuff and all, I realized it was a program echo as we talked about quantum echo from earlier, right? But what I was hearing was, is this lady basically said that this group exists. They've had some level of fracturing but they're still operating, trying to operate together. It's very political. Yes, it's fit through eighth density in some cases. So there's not agenda per se, but what it is, is it's people trying to watch out for their own ideas, in other words. What does our collective want? What's best for our collective? - Right, all right. - What's best for all of our collectives, right? - I actually believe that there are leaders from Earth who are in the midst of negotiations and part of that and trying to unify at that. So I'm not gonna say who, because I know this is kind of, it could be inflammatory, but I know there is one specific leader that I have in mind that the media is only showing old pictures of that person. This person has not had any press conferences. You have not heard him speak. I believe he's off world in negotiations and we'll see what happens. - I think the one that you're talking about, but there's a group of people who came out of this group of governmental heads that kind of fund the ICC. Okay, we'll put it that way. What we've had, I have memories and I know others have had memories where we were standing, essentially doing security details in these large meeting rooms where all these government officials were brought up to the LLC and they were basically shown what they were actually paying for, right? Dog and pony shows and he's one of them. But I think it's a group of five or six of these leaders who are all essentially trying to figure out, okay, bad stuff's happening. And how do we make bad stuff not happen anymore? - Right, right, yeah. - So these ETs are coming in and basically saying, look, your plan is on the verge of some very significant changes if you don't start doing certain things. What options can you do right now? And obviously, we also know there's the recovery of alien technology, which is what I think Ukraine is about. There's also a dumps there, there's biological facilities, all kinds of stuff there that people aren't disclosing in the media. And the question is, okay, a simple way to ask the questions is this, Russia invades Ukraine. They only go in so far where we believe these biological facilities were and then they retreat. They don't even keep the ground they had, why? Well, they've already got what they wanted. So the question becomes, okay, well, if that's what they really wanted and now they have it, so what, they're gonna stay there and the answer is no. You see all these forces now pulling back into Russia across the original Russian border. Even to the point, by the way, look at what happened in Chernobyl, right? So you have these Russian forces on the ground who are digging trenches in irradiated soil and getting basically toxically poisoned with uranium and plutonium isotopes. And now they can potentially have cancer. So it's like all this crazy going on. And yeah, it makes you wonder, like in those cases, you know they're there for a reason, but this particular governmental leader, we feel that chances are he is being talked to by this ET species. It's basically they're telling him to calm down. If you need to calm, you need to calm your shit down. - If I guess, can you tell me? (both laughing) - Blink twice, if it is. - Right. (both laughing) - Blink twice. - Gonna say names and blink, do a wink or something. - Yeah. - No, it wouldn't surprise me at all. And I have to think I know you're talking about. Okay, where was this question? I lost it now. Oh, is Project Sammy, S-A-M-I, under the Alliance Unified Command? Did I ask you now already? - Not yet. - No. So we actually have this show up in a QHHT session with a client. I would say the answer is yes. That's also the initials for an individual who is an ICC senior ambassador. So yeah, it's interesting. I wanna release her name because I don't know if that might actually give us authorization to do that, but we know that those were the initials also of the senior ambassador for ICC. And it's a senior admiral. And yeah, it's one of those things when it showed up. It was very odd. It was like the person mentioned it. I mean, went, what? And I literally had, after the session, I had to go like pull some records down and figure out, okay, well, who is this and what is this? And yeah, there they were. And I'm like, okay, so that's real. But the person had it come up in their QHHT session. So it was really interesting. It was like kind of like a third party basically validating stuff I had already heard and stuff that I pulled down and stuff that Peter's pulled down. So, yeah. - Yeah. And what I was getting is that it was a project that came about around the 70s, the late 70s, early 80s, and it had to do with tech, tech and possible cloning. So there's actually stay tuned for more for that client, but that's what we got from that so far. - Yeah. - Right. There might have been who even asked a question, for all we know. (laughs) So this person wants to know, why are some people being harassed by stalkers and abducted by military grays and stuff, people who are in the programs and why others aren't? Which I think that just might have something to do with you being specifically targeted. - So partly agreement. - Yeah. So we've chatted about this in our videos that we've done as well. Part of this is about agreements. Part of this is about the fact that certain people have either blown memory caps and they're now awake or they're on the verge of doing that. So let's say if you were somebody in the programs and you knew for a fact that the person who you're monitoring, if they were to actually pop their memory cap, it could be highly disadvantageous to that particular program. You would probably send people they're trying to make sure that person does not do that. What does that look like, right? It could be simple stalking. It could be gang stalking. It could be cyber stalking. It could show up as someone just harassing and calling you on your phone all the time. It could be people showing up at your doorstep and quote unquote leaving items or messages. - We're trolling on the internet. - Trolling on the internet. All this stuff essentially, which is all covered underneath the idea of harassment and stalking, cyber stalking. They use these tools because they want to keep people in the state of fear because when you're in that state of fear, what do you only do? You only react, you don't think through things. So if they keep you in that only reactive state, they have you under control. And that's what they're trying to do. Secondly, if they can't use those methods, the standard what I call the standard methods of harassing you, they then go to what we call TIing someone or targeting that individual, right? What that means is, is this is where technology comes to the play, right? You would see stuff like, for example, microwave direct energy weapons. You would see these effects like Jody and I, we were actually someplace the other day. And we both got all of a sudden, we were chatting with a individual in session about some of this stuff. And right till the end, we both started getting this really bad headache. And we're like, what is this? It's literally like the minute we brought that subject up that particular topic up, we both got energetically attacked. It's like someone aims something at us and then we not let up until we let off that subject. And that's direct, that's called TI. So if you're a TI for a target individual, that's where that comes to play. - So it's like to shut you up. And then also the other side of the coin though, is you may have agreements with those particular species. You know, maybe with a gray, maybe with whatever species, you know, you're being, who's abducting you, you know? So a lot of people will say, I didn't agree to this. I didn't agree to this, if there's trauma going on or whatever. - Yeah, you did. But you did in like eons and eons and eons ago, you know? - Sorry, I don't remember. - And it's all part of the evolution and soul growth for both parties involved actually. So the other association that I wanted to bring up though, is that this is also dealing with omega and gamma programming. Because oftentimes there's programming that says, if you talk about this, you actually will get this thought or influence, like now it's time to exit this life. It's time to kill yourself. So you do not want to give in to that kind of programming. - Or with gamma too, by the way. Another thing that can happen with gamma specifically, you'll feel like if you're not around certain groups of people, you can't survive. If you don't have certain drugs or certain chemical influences, you can't survive. If you can't be like in certain social organizations or religious organizations, you can't survive. Anytime the thought comes up that you can't have X and can't survive, chances aren't gamma level programming. It's essentially designed to kneecap you before they have to kneecap you. - If you remember Johann's story when he was with Connie, having a session, he gave all this information under hypnosis. And literally he said, this asset will what, terminate in 24 hours or something? - Not my voice, by the way. There's actually somebody else's voice coming through me. And it freaked her out bad enough that she was actually crying at the end of the session. And when I came out of it and she put me back under again and she had removed that programming. I remember the look on her face when she first brought me up and she was crying, I'm like, did I do something wrong? And she's like, no, we have to deal with something right now. And she put me immediately back under and dealt with that whole issue. And that's what happens. That was a mega level programming was what that was. - And if you go back to Fritz Sprigmeyer's work, he goes really into depth about why they instill these two protection mechanisms because one is designed to socially ensnare you, chemically group ensnare you because they want peer pressure to keep you in line. If that absolutely fails, then you know, mega is the fallback. That's the, oh, we've gotten to this point, okay, now we're just going to do it. So you can't get them to keep you in line. We're going to force you to keep in line or you're going to kill yourself. - And this often happens to people who, all of a sudden they get all this information or they do research online and they're like, oh my gosh, wow, this stuff is real. And holy crap, I can't believe I've been living in a world like this. And so then they all of a sudden feel like they're a victim and they want to exit because they're like, forget it. Why should I even try? - And let's be also clear about two things really quick also as well, right? If you're somebody who's having suicidal ideation, please, please, please seek help. There are tons of people out there. There are national phone numbers and hotlines. Please call one of them, please work with somebody. Please find a counselor. We do not condone suicide. It's not going to help you in the longer and carmically, spiritually or anything else. Plus we don't want to see you get hurt. Secondly, and probably just as important, the health of the people who are going through this experience eventually will degrade over time. That's what was happening to me. I actually had all the alcohol issues I had and I was basically hitting rock bottom. I was the point where something's going to have to massively shift. And when I worked with Connie, that's why it did was because she broke that programming. So. - Wow. Yeah, that's all very interesting to me, especially even Tony about Riggs talks about, like you said, you have the thought, you have in a conversation and you have a thought of something else. An example he used is they can make you horny or aroused. As soon as you decide you want to sit down and meditate or start writing or doing something, instead you got to go take care of something because it's just overwhelming. - That's actually in a document that we were talking about. If you go to that CIA document, it actually talks about they can control your nervous system and that is also associated with beta programming where you're like all of a sudden really aroused. So it's crazy. - Go, I recommend anybody questions whether Francis work as close or not or if you question if programming is real or not, go watch the movie Eyes Watch Shot and also watch some of the videos on YouTube where they actually show you how the programming was embedded in the video by Stanley Kubrick when he actually did it. And that was the last movie he did and he died in a mysterious circumstances. - Right. - And the fact is is like if you go watch that movie and you watch this, I wouldn't call it an editor's cut. It's what it is. It's a, they step you through step by step the programming that he noticed in Hollywood and other places and he actually built it into the movie as a way to teach people what they do to you. It's subconsciously what they do to you. - Right. - So they take him out because he exposed all that stuff. - In my opinion, yes. - That's what it is. - That's what it looked like. - I have heard that and that's also again, this is, what's his name, Tom? - I know if you were talking about it. - Tom Cruise, he's in the movie. - Yeah. - He made a comment where he said that Stanley was one of the most brilliant directors he's ever worked with. He said that he just said too much. That's what he said on Oprah's show, by the way. - Really? - Not like, 'cause someone had asked him in the audience about it during what he outtakes. And he basically said he's one of the most brilliant directors I've ever worked with. He has said too much. - Yep. - Exposed too much. Shift gears a little bit. Can you please ask about the astral spiders or etheric spiders? Do you have guys have any information on that? - So, okay, so this- - We even seen him in this realm, which is kind of yucky and crazy. - I've seen him. - This is a long, this is kind of long and sort of tail. So we'll try to be succinct. When we, when I first moved out to Utah, I had my own apartment, my own place for a little bit. Jodie and I were doing our dating thing. And there's a couple of times where we kept wondering why at certain times we noticed certain effects would happen the way they did. - Where we lived. - Where we lived. - Like the building. - 'Cause I lived up on the second floor. She was down the first floor of that same building. And we also noticed when we go out certain places, why certain things would happen the way they did. It was odd timing. Exactly what Aaron was saying, like we saw them as well. When we were out and about, we were like, what is that? We see big large black spiders, they're like huge. - Like I kept seeing like almost like this weird vortex underneath the building. And then I kept seeing like this weird, like large spider with tentacles over the building. And it was just creepy. - Yeah. - And then it was weird 'cause I had this appointment with somebody who she actually is very intuitive. And she said, there's something about where you are living. She's like, is there like some weird portal? Like she's like, I don't really talk about this stuff. She's like, but I'm getting it up. There's some ET weird portal and connection here. And I'm like, what the freak? - This is from our counselor by the way. Yeah, and I was like, I think this is crazy that she's saying this, so. - Well, most people see him like as they're waking up, like out of a state. - That's when I've seen them. - Right. - Interesting. - As I'm waking up three different times. - So the answer is yes. We've seen them at different times. Usually when we're waking up or just going outside in bright light, that's when we see them. And usually it has to do with energy shifts for us. Like, in my place or Jody's place at the time, until we got married, we had our mutual place. When we would step outside, usually in our space, we're meditating, we're trying to pray, we're trying to do all these spiritual practices to keep ourselves grounded and cleared. The minute we step out of that space or in the yuck, all of a sudden the energy would shift and that's when we'd see this stuff. - Yeah. - That protected space ended like this like crazy space. Like whoa. And I constantly tell a saunter of the area and it would work for a while. And then I'm like, oh my gosh, why is it not holding up? It's not sticking. - Why is it sticking? - And it's 'cause I would see that etheric spider. It's weird. - Tyler, was it Ed Spina that said that, he talked about these, right? And he said they would like seed these etheric spiders or etheric bugs in like areas that they want unrest in and like a certain energy of like whenever there's a protest or a big riot or whatever. He's like they'll be all over, they'll see that whole area. - It's like infested, yeah. - Yeah, and different for different reasons. They'll like seed a whole area with things like that. - Yeah, and what we noticed was at that time, I was going under a huge amount of changes in my personal life. We were actually starting to date and we were under a lot of stress. And what we were noticing was is usually when we saw the spiders, usually the stress was much, much higher. And also there was like chaos in the building. So like to your point, Aaron, like we noticed like if we could hear like either people fighting or we could hear like all of a sudden like a ton of cop cars around the building, like what is going on? - Like the agitate, yeah. - The guy two floors above her in her place. - Oh my gosh. - He had a drug overdose, threw up in the toilet and then the whole toilet overflowed all the way down into her place. - Started coming through the bathroom light. Is that not disgusting? - Oh, no. - Yeah. All right. Next question. (all laughing) - All right. Next topic. Is there a difference between monarch and MK ultra twinning or is it the same thing? - So, okay. So the answer is yes and no. - Good answer. - The reason why I say it this way is this. The type of programming, the way they actually create the twinning effect is the same. It's utilized differently for those of us that were MK ultraed versus people who are monarched. I look at monarch as a much softer way of programming. In other words, if you're someone who is an artist, a actor, a singer, if you're involved in music. In other words, if you're someone who uses your intuition and you don't want to disrupt that, they want to manipulate it and exploit it, you'd probably be a monarch. If you're someone who's like me and you're like, you've been scrapping since you're in kindergarten, you're a military asset, you've got all my martial arts stuff. I'm gonna be MK ultraed because I looked as a hardened asset. - Well, here's the interesting thing though. We were both MK ultraed in an underground facility in Colorado where I was three, he was five, but it was for a monarch program. - And that's the other angle of this too. So you might have the programming type being used a certain way and later on that asset gets transferred to another program for study. And all of a sudden they're using that asset differently in that program because that program does things maybe differently. So what she's referring to is a print called Markoff, that Sasha Markoff runs his own company and they run a print called Wall Rider, which essentially tries to interlace multiple super soldier minds to work collectively as a group. So that's an example of where monarch programming or actually MK ultra programming and mark programming is used in a complete tertiary program, but it's similar but not the same. - What is MK Pegasus? - MK Pegasus was the following program to MK ultra. So if you look at the way MK Pegasus, MK ultra we believe basically documents Jody and I have been able to find and in some time between 85 and 90, somewhere in that range. MK Pegasus, they essentially took the Russian Pegasus program and it's really not Pegasus by the way. It's called PKR program of control your resume, the mind control program. And essentially on all their binders, you see this red horse that usually shows up. So they called it Pegasus, quote unquote, what CIA assets called it. They were taking that programming material and they integrated it into MK ultra, a Dr. Joe on West basically integrated that rapid programming type into MK ultra to see if it worked faster. And the answer is yes, it does. 'Cause originally what they did in MK ultra was they used, they used the Tabustock and German method, which requires all of this long indoctrination, inculcation, entrainment. The Russian method was kind of like brute forcing the brain. If you're a computer nerd, you know, brute forcing is you kind of crack the brain open, you dump your code in and then you back out and close the door. That's basically what the Russians have figured out how to do with Pegasus. So for those people who've been Pegasus, meaning you were probably in probably in the 90s and after that up until they switched to 3GRT. 'Cause that's the method that followed Pegasus. Pegasus was essentially kind of like the bridge between the heavy trauma of MK ultra and the non trauma of 3GRT. And it was done as like slick, very kind of like very direct brute force the brain, dump the code in done. - So also know that with MK ultra, there are projects. So really how I talked about Dr. Ross 80 earlier. Okay, so he was in on one of the very initial sub projects, sub project 119. And so that was the initial electromagnetic program through it says not yielding. Well, according to the CIA, they didn't think it yielded any substantial methodologies at first, but later it yielded a lot quite frankly. So if you go to sub projects, you will find a lot. There's 68, there's 119 and it all talks about what they did. And so what Johan's basically saying is all those sub projects went to different corporations like Monarch, Merckhoff, Wall Rider, all of that. - So. - And the other thing to remember is that we know we've found documents recently at least that had project 5936 on it, for example. So here's the thing, if MK ultra ended in 1972, as they claim, there's no way there'd be 5,936 programs under MK ultra, it just would not happen. - Well, it just started still ongoing. - Yeah, and like they didn't stop using looking glass or like everything that they obviously, if we get a document that says they've stopped, that almost assures you that they're still going. - And they don't. - Totally. - Just like we said about start dates. - Right. - They think it's the same thing. - Yeah. - Yeah. - This is the other thing too, right? So if you look at the congressional oversight for MK ultra specifically, and the follow on programs, right? The US Senate's number one concern was that they are actually creating mind controlled subject in these programs. They asked Helms, the guy who was the CIA director of the time, can you give us assurances that you're not creating mind controlled individuals? Go look up the 1975 document from the Senate when they'd asked him this question. He under oath, quote unquote, said we are not doing that, which means we're not willing to admit that. - Right. - That's his euphemism. He's not willing to admit it on the record because if he admitted it on the record, all kinds of bad shits are supposed to happen at that point. - Speaking of which, you need to really look into the verbiage that they use. - Yes. - 'Cause like for instance, tonight when we were looking at some documents, for looking glass, they weren't using verbiage such as, but anomalous. - They called looking glass, they called it anomalous cognitive behavior, okay? Instead of saying we're transferring the human consciousness from one body to another. - We're using psychic, anything, or phonics. - We're using psychic abilities, or we're transferring you through a time-dilation portal. They call it time-dilation and time-travel, essentially anomalous time unexplained phenomenon. So it's like when you see these statements come out of their documents, you're like, okay guys, what you're really saying is you don't want to admit that on paperwork. - Right, right. They don't want to, yeah, exactly. They don't want to get made fun of for lack of a better term. You know, they don't want to, like, oh, this scientist is writing about time travel. You know, if you were a fancy, you know, you can this way around it. - Okay, let's see. Question for you on, he has mentioned that some people had a band implanted across the back of their head to inject something directly into their nervous systems. Could you say more about this? - Okay, so some folks, and I've seen the marks on certain people, and I've not been able to figure out why that is. I have one, I know other people do as well. It's right where the medulla meets the base of the skull back here. Essentially, what that mark is, is it's a place point for where they actually do the tech injection. In my case, when I was talking to Peter, the insider, one of the things he told me was, he said, when they tried to, when you went from the nano to pico to femtotech, because you realize that it tried 12 separate times to try to inject this technology in you and you die almost every time. - Wow. - This is what the band is for. It's basically like a patch of skin that they put in place. So when they do these injections, it's basically protecting the target, the person who's getting ejected. And it gives them a known placement point that they know that's one of their assets. Sometimes people will notice that there's actually implants there, like a rock or a metal implant in that location in the skin. I've also heard people talk about barcoding and other more weird stuff. So I guess it depends on which program you're in as to what they use. - Yeah, and for me, it wasn't an actual location when the nanotech and all of the tech injections happened in my brain, but it was just, he said the brain. (laughing) - Right. Okay, we have a super chat from AmphibiousBogs. Thank you so much. - Thank you. - I think HSB donated $20 earlier. I wanted to thank you also. We really appreciate that guys. Thank you so much. But AmphibiousBogs has a question. Does Johan, we call missions with Michael Jacob, James Castle, Max Spears, and Joseph Powell? - Oh boy, here we go. (laughing) So we're gonna rip the band in right off of this one, I guess. Okay, so let's be clear. I have, I'm gonna say this clearly, ubiquitously across the record. First off, I know who James Casbolt is. Okay, I know who the guy is. I have never served with him. I have never served with Max. I have never served with Joseph Powell or Mike Jacob. Anthony Zender and I, when Joseph Powell presented this whole idea, but somehow I was me, him, and Anthony were responsible for Max's death, and he presented this idea. I talked to Anthony about ad nauseam and said, do you have any memory of this ever happening? 'Cause I have none. I said, I don't know who this guy is. I've never, I've talked to Mike Jacob. I've never served with him in the programs. I would know. I said, I have no recall of Spears. I know who he is. I've met his ex-girlfriend, his girlfriend, what was her name, Sarah? - Sarah Adams. - But she's a very nice- - Sarah Adams, yeah. - She's a very nice, very polite woman. I have no problem with her. She's very eloquent speaker. But I don't know her personally. Like I don't know anything about her. So it's like all this stuff that he's saying, I'm just like, first off and foremost, understand that the first time Max almost died, James Rank was present and photographing it when it happened. - Really? - The second time when he died was in Poland and the statement that Sarah has said publicly on the record was that another version of Max stepped in the door and killed him. - Really? - So here's the thing, right? So if that's the case, then that means that I didn't do it. That means Anthony didn't do it. That means Jacob didn't do it. And it means Joseph Paus talking shit about it. - In a nutshell. - In a nutshell, was the Black, did he throw up black glue or black liquid? Is that part true? - So it's interesting you bring that point up because I have actually asked James about that at one point during one of our videos. He said that when he talked to Max Spears, Max said that was in fact the case. Now I've heard other people who've told their rendition of that story and gotten pretty much the same feedback. And even Sarah has said that. She said, could we talk about black glue at N5D actually? And she brought this point up about Max saying, well, yeah, my late boyfriend, Max, he, when he almost passed, he threw this stuff up for almost like a day. - Yeah. - And everybody was like, what? - So I mean... - And everyone thought it was the black goo that gets talked about that... - Yeah. So I mean, that story has circulated. I have actually, I told Jody this story too. I had a friend who was at the Gettysburg National Monument, the park. They saw a meteorite impact in the park. And within five to 10 minutes of that meteorite impact, they saw this large moving mask, looked like a black liquid moving across the road toward a park ranger vehicle that was parked there. - Really? - And he said it freaked him out so bad that he and his girlfriend and their two friends got their vehicle and fled from that area. It's scared of that bad. - Wow, wow. - So when people ask the questions, black and real, my answer to that is absolutely yes, and it is here. - Well, you encountered a part, I remember you telling the story where you are they sent a ship into an area of the galaxy or wherever it was. - Yeah, the canal had incident. - Yeah, can you just quickly tell that story because that's fascinating. - So the ICC had received, they've been noticing these cubes were being launched on a certain trajectory into our system. They wanted to find out where these cubes are coming from because they couldn't stop them. They knew it was a certain species but they're trying to figure out is this a weapon or is this the species itself is trying to invade, right? A hostile species. So they figured out a way to destroy the cubes and then they tracked the trajectory back to this other system was about 13 and a half billion light years from here. Okay, it's a very, very long distance by the way. But they tracked it and they sent the USSS, United Services Starship Galahad to that system, multiple jumps to get there. They had them jump in the system to find out what the heck was going on. Now, per the video I saw, this is back when I was on the Franklin, I think, you were my ex of the time. They basically did what they called a service wide broadcast which means every ship that had a hollow communicator was watching this message when it happened, okay? The video that I saw was essentially the commander of the ship, the captain of the ship, basically talking to everyone who's watching and essentially you're seeing these cubes being launched from this one planet that had been decimated. It was the source of this black goo. It was launching these cubes at the ship and as the cubes would hit the shield and then go through the hull, it was absorbing all the material from the hull and then absorbing the people and the material inside the ship and the shields inside the ship were trying to contain the goo. He's like, I don't know how long we can keep this up. I don't know how long we can keep the ship going but we're gonna continue broadcasting until we have nothing left. Because the ICC and the people in the programs need to know the danger of what's going on here. This is hostile, he kept saying it's hostile. And the last bit of the message that I saw was when one of the cubes hit the command deck and it started wiping out the navigation seat in the comms and that's when everything went black. Went to static and then went black. And at that point, you can pretty much assume the ship either was dead in the water or it was already subsumed by the black goo. - Wow, yeah, thank you for sharing that. I just wonder like, okay, is it really all gone? I mean, where did they, we hear a story about black goo all the time? Did they reverse engineer, was it a technology? Did they reverse engineer? How did we get our hands on it? That's why I'm curious. - So I think there's two answers to that question. One, actually three answers to that question, actually, that Jodie and I have run into. The first one was the one that she channeled back. One was that... - Almost a year ago? - Almost a year ago, at least. We had put, maybe it's May of last year, maybe. - Yeah. - Jodie had done his channeling where we know that the medical community had been researching that a certain virus is very famous now. And that virus originally came from a, from Draco droplets of blood in the soil. They had isolated that blood and the black goo is in that blood. - Really? - Oh, okay. - Interesting. - The second place we know of where the black goo has shown up, obviously is up there in the programs and we have captured it and we've killed it. It turns in this black glass. We always send it back to the ICC to have their processing logistic centers actually process it to find out what it is, what it's made of, what it is, chemically. It's always a high percentage of carbon and usually carbon nanotubes usually is what shows up as under microscopes, electron microscopes. The third thing that I've seen black goo show up as is when it's inside a controlled asset, meaning someone has in an environment and all of a sudden you see this, the effect that I typically see when I know it's someone who's under the control and you'll see their eyes kind of go black for a minute or it looks like there's oil on the top of the eyes. Now, if you watch the X files, they try to emulate this, which I believe someone was disclosing this material to the people who wrote for the X files because of the danger level involved. That oil effect on the eyes is essentially a disclosure of the black goo swimming in that person's system and controlling the nervous system. So interesting. - You're very interesting. - That's an AI, it's like an AI tech, essentially, right? - Yeah, it's a sentient AI carbon-based life form, yes. - Man, we're already hitting two hours now. This flew by, I'm gonna ask one more question just because he gave us a $20 donation super chat and then we're gonna wrap it up after that. Sorry, guys, I know I missed a ton of questions. There's just no way to get to all of them. But the last question, do any ETs practice martial arts? If so, is it done for sport like MMA or just for protection? - Okay, so I'm gonna answer that question this way. First off, ETs do not need physical bodies, typically, if they're fifth density and higher. You're third and fourth density species like us and the Draco do need bodies and then they have to feed those bodies. The second thing I will say is, is the Draco specifically use martial arts and fighting in general as a method of entertainment. So what they will do is, let's say that you were on board a ship and let's say there's a Draco liaison board ship and you've offended that liaison somehow, what they would do is they'd have you fight that liaison to death. Once you die, 'cause typically you're gonna lose, they throw you in this region tank and now you have the memory of losing and then you're brought back to life and sit back to your DD2. - Wow. - So you know only do the humiliation of dying and the actual going through all of that. But then you have to work with the guy the next morning. You've already kicked the crap out of you or whatever you did. - Yeah, I think I've heard that explained before, actually. - Yeah, that's interesting. - In the next quarter, I think. So there are, we've actually, Jodi's chat about this in the more of our videos and I have as well. There are certain ET groups that have funded certain monastic orgies, say like given them inspiration. Look at all the dragon families in China. There's also some groups within Tibet itself that also holds the group that you talked about before our clients, the green dragons. Yeah, the green dragons, the group, the golden dragons, red dragons, those are all like the dragon families. Imagine taking something, it's a reptile species that has to essentially assert dominance. And the way it asserts dominance is to its physicality. A lot of those particular species would develop a martial system for defense and for protection. And that's where you see them teaching us to do that in turn. - But it's a monastic order. Like they're, so essentially, if you think of it, they're like a spiritual Jodi, you know, 'cause they know the martial arts and everything. What's the planet? - Oh, I don't remember. - It's the order of, sorry guys, we're thinking of this one planet. - The order of Tejeda? - Yes, there's the order of Tejeda. - They're palladium. - Yeah, and so they actually practice martial arts. - Yeah. - And they're a monastic order, so. - So to answer the question, yes, they do martial arts. They use it to actually focus, build, and use their cyanic abilities a lot of times. - Yeah. - Some of them do use it for physicality, like the Draco in us. It depends on the species, and is there a need for quote unquote physical protection? So that would be the actual true answer. - Well, thank you. - Thank you. - Sorry, there's so many more questions, but I just can't get to all of them. - I guess you'll have to come to the conference. - Right, yeah, come to the conference. - You'll have to come to the conference. - Get more. - Okay, so let's go ahead and start wrapping this up. Thank you guys for coming on and doing that and taking your time and answering everyone's questions. We could go for two more hours easily. Maybe we'll do this again after the conference sometime, but until then, you have to come to the conference to hear them talk. 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