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EP 178 - John W. Warner IV - Hidden History - UFOs - Space Programs - Cover Ups - Advanced Tech

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John W. Warner IV
https://www.johnwwarnerivauthor.com
I'm an author and historian with a passion for hidden history, revisionist historical narratives, vintage cars, and the unsung heroes of WWII. All profits from my books go to wounded veteran charities.
I have been a skeptic about historical records, including textbooks, for over thirty years––a perspective that's been well-honed. My father, 5-term US Senator John W. Warner III (R-VA), was also Secretary of the Navy and Chairman of the Armed Services Committee (KBE) during the Vietnam War. My mother, Catherine Mellon, daughter of philanthropist Paul Mellon (OSS, KBE), was an activist who protested that war. She taught me to question authority, think independently, and speak my mind.
Thanks to my family and my own dogged persistence, I have been behind the scenes with some of the most powerful and influential people in U.S. and global history. In my historical novels, Little Anton and the forthcoming sequel, Lion, Tiger, Bear (Sept. 1), I disclose the shocking hidden history possibilities of advanced technology and the covert schemes of the Fascist power elite.
When I'm not doing research, I'm also a true "gear head," having spent most of my adult life quenching a thirst for knowledge about race cars––first as a professional Grand Am and American Le Mans Series racing driver (a "middle of the pack man" behind the wheel of a Corvette GT1 and a Porsche GT3R), and later researching the history of the sport for my NASCAR DVD series and my Little Anton book series. In fact, I started writing during a two-year-long recovery from a racing accident. My long recovery gave me time to go deep into research. That research continues and is bringing forth some pretty astonishing and disturbing truths, which I post regularly on my website.

Duration:: 2h 7m
Broadcast on:: 01 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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That link is below in the chat. And last episode, I mentioned that there was no onsite lodging available, but there was camping available. That is true, but I forgot to mention there are plenty of Airbnb's and hotels available nearby if you're looking to-- if you're still looking to come. Still plenty of tickets available. And if you can't make it, grab a live stream ticket. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're getting excited. It's right around the corner. Just a little over a month away. So yeah, we hope to see you guys all there. Tonight, we are joined by John W. Warner IV. He's author, historian, researcher. And his father was Senator John Warner III, who was the Secretary to Navy. And his mother was Catherine Mellon of the Mellon Banking Family of Pittsburgh. I guess I'll turn it over to you, John. Let you explain-- or what you explain that. My cousin, Chris Mellon, we were friends, but we've had a bit of a falling out, especially after my Twitter adventure. But he worked for the CIA and the DIA. Probably still does, because he'd never leave those positions. My wife is at CIA. I know a lot about it. I have a lot of friends in the Office of Naval Intelligence, friends with my father. But Chris, he and Lou Elizondo have been on the forefront of this UAP office and UAP task force. They were doing the Two of the Stars Academy, which is a goofy CIA science. I told him that. He kind of agreed. But as I've said in other interviews, I found myself 25 years ago at sort of a nexus of things. Doing family research on the military historian, I spent a lot of time with my dad traveling the world. And so I finally started to realize that my family was very much involved in the national security state since World War II and maybe before. And also, because of the financial banking, they were really involved in what you would call the deep state of before World War II. But it's a very complex, long story. I don't know how much you want to get into it. But Chris and I have had exchanged some shells, long distance naval shells on Twitter and things like that. I've laughed because Twitter is a shit show. And most people just want to be entertained. It's not really a good forum for information. And, of course, there's a lot of troubles and very nasty people out there who are probably on the payroll. Right. Somebody's here. Oh, yeah. How did your cousin take it when you told him about two stars and being a psi app? I mean, you say he kind of agreed, but how did he end up in that position and what was going on there? Well, we had seen each other years ago at a family reunion. His brother had passed away. We saw each other at a funeral. We actually went to camp together in 1973 when we were boys. But he and I had a long discussion at my farm. And I said, I really want to help you because I know a lot about a disclosure. I told him the story. I showed the MJ-12 files to my dad in 1993 when I was 31. And after a few months of back and forth, I got my dad to crack on it. You know, basically admitting that he knew, you know, he was read in on a portion of the UFO file. He was chairman of the Armed Services Committee, and he sat on the Select Intelligence Committee for many years. And of course, he worked with the Navy and Marines closely. And I've known a lot of these admirals and people that we've traveled the world with over the years. I met Bobby Ray Inman and all of them. And, you know, I always had UFOs on the mind as a younger man. And they all, the Navy all seemed very excited. Bobby Ray Inman, you know, in the '90s, he was like, oh, we're hopeful that in the early 2000s with a regime change, we'll have some disclosure. And the Navy can let out some of its high technology. Well, we got 9/11 instead. Right, yeah. That, you know, it seems like every year they try to do something. But Chris and I are at odds because what he and Elizondo are doing is a very scripted, very weak narrative. You know, they're pushing the UAP thing, which is a distraction from the term UFO. Yeah. And I said, look, man, you know, this is bullshit. You know, even if 10% of the wild stuff he sees called it is true, it's horrifying and mind-blowing. And, you know, we talked about med-back technologies and things that the military wanted to lead out to the public. You know, a lot of our technology is said to be back-engineered, laptops, ballistic glass, cling wrap, fiber optics, microchips, you know, down the line. And your cell phone has more technology in it than anything. It's incredible. And of course, a lot of it's spyware. So we didn't get anywhere with each other. And I finally, Steven Greer, who was a longtime friend, called me up and says, listen, you want to be on mine. You document her, you know, Chris and Lou aren't doing shit. And I said, yeah, they're pushing the conversation sideways. They're deluding the narrative. You got it. And so I agreed to be on the cause-- I think it's called the cosmic hoax. Yeah, actually it was-- I just watched Joe just telling Tyler that before the show. And I saw you on there. He was like, oh, nice. Yeah. I mean, my dad urged me to come forward in his later years. He couldn't tell me a lot of things verbatim. He took his natural security out very seriously. And I said, I understand that. But this is getting to be very disturbing and serious. And what he would do is he-- when I traveled with him and otherwise on Capitol Hill, he showed me how the deep state operates banking military. I mean, he showed it to me. He's like, you know, when I grilled him in 2002, I said, look, something hit the Pentagon and ain't damn plain, I'm a pilot. There's the debris field is insufficient. Where's the luggage? Where are the bodies? Where's the jet engines and the wing indentations? And he got very upset. He says, that's the one thing I won't talk about you. Really? What he's saying to me is, yes, a tomahawk makes a missile. Hit it. Go figure it out on your own. I can't talk about it. But yeah, other things he would talk about over the years. But it was the MJ-12 files. You know, I was pretty naive when I was 31. But once we had that out in the open, then I started-- the Pandora's box just opened. And I started researching everything. I was a racing driver at the time, but I would read everything and research between my schedule. Right. So going back to, you said you were friends with Steven Greer. I know there's a lot of controversy around him himself, as far as he only claims that there are no negative ETs. Right. And do you agree with that? No. He and I have had many conversations, and I can't get him. I said, look, man, yin and yang, duality. The universe is based up. But somehow, he has fixated. Somebody told him, gave him some line of bullshit. I said, come on, I agree with you. It's mostly benevolent. Some are ridiculous. But come on, our whole history has been influenced by ETs going back millions of years. I mean, there's just no doubt that in everything, there's polarity. And if you study metaphysics in the occult, and I write about it in my books, you need both sides or cannot be light without the dark. Exactly. But in the Iroquois nation, there were seven chiefs of war and seven chiefs of peace. I think they were Anunnaki. And he said, you have to have that balance. Of course, I think Alex Collier said it best. The Androbotans told him, Earth is the darkest place in the universe. Guadalcanal and the Holocaust all wrapped into one. That's why everyone's taking a big interest, because this could go way south. The whole human experiment, the guy out of the mother earth, the environment, there's a lot of people living on this planet that we can't see or most of us can't see. And I don't understand why certain ET groups and everyone, we can't do more and interact more on a public scale. But somehow, it's always private groups that seem to get the contact points. Right. I remember you said in one interview, you saw a military document that said that US military was working with the Soreans, which would be, I guess, the type of reptilian? Yes. William Tomkin's references in his book. And a few of my Navy contacts sent me through the email, a document. He said, what do you make of this? And I said, well, I'm not sure. But there's lots of talk about reptilian races. For every insect, bird, fish, reptile on earth, there's supposedly a bipedal-- Intelligent version. You know, analog out in the universe. It's not a big deal. The online headed people of Egypt and the sign of Phalas of the Middle Ages, the dog headed men. I mean, it's something big that's going on. And I'm a historian, and that's where I sort of got into all this, was all the holes in history. And when you start digging into the esoteric stuff, you're like, oh, OK, now I know why they left it out. So-- but yeah, I'm not sure why Greer takes that line. But you know, as you know with the super soldiers, and I talked to one or two of them privately, we've got a lot of horrendous issues to deal with. And the problem with the disclosure movement is, you know, I tell people this 35 years ago, when I was starting in the early '90s, I'd been a UFO fan of my whole life, Star Trek fan. And I always said, hey, it's coming. Star Trek-- all my friends were like, you're an idiot. And then in 2017, when they came out, oh, Warner's not such an idiot after all. You know, all my Harvard friends with their PhDs, they're all idiots, sadly, they're all ignorant. And Dr. Nacey-- Yeah, 35 years ago, Steven Greer, Steven Bassett, Dolan, Linamot, and Hal, you name it, they were considered the cutting edge fringe, the whack jokes. And now they're the old guard conservatives. Yep. You know? And it's like, everyone's like, oh, that secret space program narrative, you know, everyone has ruined that. And then there's-- you know, everyone demonizes it. Oh, are you a blue chicken fan or something? I'm like, I've seen this before. It's older folks who have seen it. And it's like Project Blue Book and in the '80s, they were saying, oh, you're the Roswell crazies. They called them. Yeah. No, they think something crashed. And it was just a weather balloon or an Air Force jet. And I've seen all this before. And the same thing with Chris Miller and Lou Elizondo and the UAP Initiative with Senator Gillibrand and Rubio, a bunch of dumb senators. I mean, my dad said, they're all bought and paid for. He told me, we agreed on that. That's why he aligned himself with the Navy and the Marines. But man, these guys are just pathetic. Well, well, I mean, that's part of the reason that we're even doing our conference based around a secret space program, because I see exactly that. They're ridiculed. And the people are mocking it. And within the disclosure-- Right. So we're trying to take it seriously, because to me-- I mean, it's real. Let's face it, we have plenty of evidence going all the way back since the beginning of the space race. I mean, they were doing things behind the scenes. And obviously, they were developing out some sort of secret programs back then. And who knows what they've blossomed into today. And now we have whistleblowers coming out, talking about this stuff. And I'm sorry, you can't ignore it at some point. Ignore all that, exactly. No, and the thing is, with me, I can come to it from a slightly different angle than most. I have it grown up here in DC with my dad and my family. Shit, I mean, the melons have been in national security. They've been in military intelligence in droves. We're a very small banking family. There's about 130 of us. But I've been told by Navy people, shit, the melons. They come up in the meetings. My wife said the melons came up in meetings to the CIA. My uncle Tim Mellon ran a Pan Am systems railroad. Yeah, he hauled cargo from the CIA, he bragged about it. (upbeat music) - I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. - Hey, how's it going today? - It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. - I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. - That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 millions in the same number. - Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. - Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? - Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open or our call center is always waiting to take your call. 24/7, 365. - Wow, Dan Morgan. - From Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show. - Thanks for having me. - Visit forthepeople.com for an office near you. - Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest, life comes at you fast, which is why it's important to find some time to relax a little you time. Enter Chumba Casino with no download required. You can jump on anytime, anywhere for the chance to redeem some serious prizes. So treat yourself with Chumba Casino and play over 100 online casino style games all for free. Go to ChumbaCasino.com to collect your free welcome bonus. Sponsored by Chumba Casino, no purchase necessary. VGW Group, void where prohibited by law, 18 plus terms and conditions apply. - You know, what, spare UFO parts, you know, legal weapons, I don't know. So I mean, my family's deep in it. My grandfather Paul Mellon was OSS in World War II. And he was involved in project paper clip with Alan Dulles because Alan Dulles, station chief in Switzerland, and they knew each other before the war. My grandfather knew Wild Bill Donovan, who ran the OSS. He knew Patton 'cause he fox hunted with him out in Middle Bird, Virginia, which is 60 miles that way. And, you know, I grew up out there as well on the weekends with my dad. And, you know, my grandfather told me all kinds of a lot of stories about that. You know, he told me there were over 5,000 German scientists, assistants, you know, not this pathetic 1100 were told, you know, I mean, I started piecing this stuff together and it became very disturbing, very quick for me. I'm not proud of my family history. I'm not proud of it at all, but it is what it is. And that's why I come forward, you know, like I said, my dad and my wife, we discussed it. And before my dad died in June, you know, he said, you know, I trust your judgment. You need to go forward because your cousin Chris is not telling the full truth. And he was, you know, he understood national security and, you know, they have a point, you know, people, some people might panic, but it's the religious people I think they're afraid of. Someone said the ETs are very worried that people will commit suicide on mass. And so that got my attention because, you know, I'd rather just blow the whole damn thing open all at once, but that will cause some paradoxes and, you know, some suicide deaths. I mean, most people just, their hard floor reality will be gone in a second. - Right. - Yeah. - That's huge dramatic. I've had all my life to come to terms with that, but a lot of people overnight, it's probably not a good idea. - Like the three of us would be absolutely... - Like bringing on, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, but when you look at the majority of people and the false kind of reality, most people have as their foundation, it's that would almost be like too fast, too traumatic. And you're right. I think it could lead to unfortunately that and just mass chaos in general. And that's what it seems like. Even the good guys, like the Alliance understand that and they're trying to avoid that. So they're trying to push as hard as they can, but at the same time, be careful to not crack things open too fast and too much at once. But again, it's like people like us that we're like, let's just rip the Band-Aid off already. Like, good Lord, like, let's just do this. You know, it's like we're getting tired of waiting, but I think there needs to be a certain level of awakening on the public scale. First thing that's what we see happening, I just hope that continues to happen and without letting the deep states, 'cause they're still trying to fulfill their agendas, clearly in steer us in that direction. So we'll see how things play out, you know? - Well, you know, there's a couple of things I wanted to mention in this interview and they're probably not gonna be popular with some people. But I have enough years under my belt with this issue to notice trends. And while I'm all for, you know, I know a lot about the occult, I write about it. And my character's a woman. She embodies the divine feminine and all that, but she's a warrior as well, a light warrior, but also a warrior in World War II spy pilot and her gang. But one thing I see that is, and I'm not the only one, there are so few people out there. It's not a popular thing to say, but I don't say it anyway, 'cause I'm controversial myself. - Oh, you know, Illuminati asshole. - You know, fine, you know, Illuminati just means aluminum. So everyone on their disclosure movements and Illuminati, but they throw it as this catch-ball term. Trust me, a lot of rich people are damn stupid. - Oh yeah. - Trust me on that. At the Yacht Club, we're like, can we play golf or tennis? I don't know, let's have a martini. And that's it. - Yeah. - So it was very low consciousness level. - Yeah, it's not just, you know, you don't have to be blue-collar or middle-class to be in the disclosure movement. No, you know, I've talked to some people, but they're scared to, you know, the very few ones I know that are in the wealthy class, you know, committee of 300 families. And they're like, well, I know there's something happening, but I don't want to get involved. They're scared shitless. - Oh yeah. - But the thing I wanted to touch on is, while I definitely agree with, we should all raise our vibration consciousness and everything. There's 10,000 attractive women on YouTube and the internet saying, oh, I'll help you with Ascension. And, you know, just put this crystal in your ear and just let go of stress and all this stuff, which is good advice. But, you know, if you really look at the shamans and I've studied Sufi, the whirling dervishes and everything, it's a hard road. It's not this sit down with a crystal and meditate a little bit and let everything go. It takes a lot of work. And so there's this- - More down to earth than that. - Yeah. - And I try, but there's this clear agenda, I believe. And I'm not the only one. I think Mark Passio and a few others. - He's awesome. - It's popular, but I think there's an agenda out there to emphasize only the positive and not do the shadow work, which is the darkness. I mean, you can't ignore 50% of the equation. - Yeah. - And boy, you know, I would see hate mail on Twitter and whatever for that. A few people agree with me, but most of it's like, oh, you're a hater, you don't know what you're talking about. And trust me, you know, my grandmother, Mary Millon, was a mystic. She knew Carl Jung and Gerji and all those people. And she advised my grandfather to join the OSS because they wanted mystics. They were up against the Nazi SS, you know, Walter Gerlach and the drill society, tool of society and all their mystics, channeling information, it was like, shit. And now I find out the Americans were doing so, but on a much smaller scale with FDR in the 30s. Anyway, so that's issue one. I think there's way too much emphasis. Not that you need to overemphasize the negative stuff, but God damn it, you gotta, you can't ignore that. - Well, you gotta acknowledge it and you gotta deal with it. - Oh, they're like, oh, the SFP people, they're crazy. And it's like, well, 35 years ago, they were calling everyone else crazy. But they don't remember that. And a lot of, no offense, but a lot of young people come to this and they're like, oh, I've read three books. I know everything and I watch all the videos. And it's like, you know, you've had to have life experience. - Well, that's like, some of the best masters have lived the darkest lives because you can't, you can't gain wisdom without experience. So going through it, like the people who've lived a tough life, I have a lot of respect for, and the people who've had dark past, you know, some of those are gonna be your best healers and teachers because, you know, they've been there, they've done that. And that message you just said, that's what we push on this show anyway. We don't push it, but we're constantly talking about that. You can't just love and light your way out of this stuff. You know, you have to deal with it. - No, we gotta deal with it. - It's bypassing. - I've had a very privileged life. But, you know, I've dealt with mental illness in my family. I've dealt with, you know, depression and chronic pain. You know, and I've been through the dark night of the soul two or three times in my life where, you know, fuck it, I don't even wanna live. And, you know, say what you want. I mean, money's not gonna insulate you from the darkness. I've met a lot of dark people. And, you know, preeminent among them was, when my dad had his submarine named after him in 2007, I went to the Oval Office with my ex-wife, and Shaney and Rumsfeld and Bush were there. And man, that was just, it was so much darkness. Even my ex-wife who was not into any of this, she was like, "Wow, I gotta serve her down my spine." I mean, these guys were cold. And you could almost sense the darkness within them. You know, and my dad was a kind of a naive guy. He didn't understand anything that we're talking about. He understood a little bit about UFOs, what the Navy was doing. And, you know, that side of it. But he's not a metaphysical sort. But my mother was, and her mother was. My mother was a hippie and a mystic. I mean, she read philosophy and said, "You need to read philosophy." I was like, "Oh, no, I'm just gonna..." All I missed in is old cars and race cars. But, you know, in the last 20 years, I've played catch-up. I'm trying to think of a second issue that I wanted to bring up. - Well. - I'll remember it at some point. - While you're thinking of that. So just, this is a question I just now popped in my head. What, so what did you see that made you realize that the Secret Space Program is a reality? But what did you come across? - It was a long process. I mean, I'm very much a nuts and bolts guy. I mean, I have my creative, I'm a creative, I'm an artist and writer. But all through my life, going back to when my dad was Secretary of the Navy. And I tell this story a lot, but I'd always peeked in his top secret briefings. And he was involved in Operation Deep Freeze. And this week, I found out in Wikipedia of all places, he was involved with the Underwater National Reconnaissance Office. You can look it up. But that was a part of the Navy he was a part of. And I said, we were walking along in the winter and he had a few drinks and I said, I was 14. And I was like, I'm gonna hit him up. And I said, come on, what can you tell me about Operation Deep Freeze? Why do we have stuff down there? And he's like, well, the Russians have missile silos and sub bases. We've got to have our missile silos and sub bases. And I said, okay. And, you know, what, all the way down there, why? And he didn't tell me why, but he looked up the night, I had beautiful stars. He pointed up and he said, space operations. And that was the end of the conversation. Now that was 1976. Now fast forward to the Majestic 12 files in 1993, I'm like, oh shit. It's Antarctica have to do with this. And he got very agitated and he told me, listen, don't go down that road, you're gonna run up against national security protocols. They're gonna, you know, people think you're crazy. Don't do it, he's trying to protect me. And I said, well, you know, I'm gonna do it anyway. So throughout the 90s, you know, the Navy was always given the forefront of going back to World War II. The Navy was given the lion's share of crashed UFO technology because they had been dealing with it the most out at sea. And if you read my book, Lion Tiger Bear, I have a chapter with FDR and General Marshall and Churchill in it. And they had to discuss this at this, the meeting is real. And they all were Freemasons and they were all read in to, you know, how the world kind of works and Atlantis and Rolf Steiner and all that stuff. Egyptian Mystery School Information. But they knew and apparently there had been crashes of E.T. spacecraft going back to the 1880s. This is separate from the airship mysteries of the 1890s, but real crashes. And I wrote it in the book I'm running now, I expand on it, but they found intact, they crashed stuff. They found them intact. They're just floating above the ground. They can't even get inside. You know, they're in a warehouse somewhere. You know, they found all kinds of stuff. But, you know, Tesla was working with FDR, we now know in the 30s on multiple, you know, invisibility, you know, the Philadelphic experiment, which was, you know, hyperdimensional travel, but they didn't have psychic navigators. That was their problem. You need that to filter, to actually navigate a festival. - Yeah, Penny Bradley talked about that, yeah. - Exactly, I know Penny and she's great. And so I write that, the thing is, we've always been dealing with technology that's way above our pay grade spiritually and mentally, intellectually. But America had to, because the Germans have been doing it since God knows when. I mean, they had understood the Vedic texts. You know, the Lords of the Black Stone, then the Real Society, and you know, and so they were way ahead. And I write it this way in my new book. I mean, it just, we had to play catch up. Even though there's a story that a Navy friend sent to me, I don't know if it's true, but I'm gonna tell it to you anyway. Everyone knows the Philadelphic experiment story. High voltage, T-Towns in Brown did the main mass with the emitters, physicist John von Neumann. I think the vice, the Varian brothers, and Vannevar Bush and the MIT rad lab, John G. Trump, they were all involved. Anyway, it went south, they didn't know what they're doing. Like I said, a lack of a psychic navigator in the Navy. You know, they're like, oh fuck that. You know, we'll just flip a switch and see what happens. - Yeah. - But a Navy friend sent me a message and he said, I don't know if this is true or not, but given the Eldridge story, the USS Eldridge, maybe. (upbeat music) - I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. - Hey, how's it going today? - It's going good, man. - Tell us who you are and what you do. - I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. - That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is an insane number. - Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. - Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? 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VGW Group, void work prohibited by law. 18-plus terms and conditions apply. - And a dark journalist does a stand your list does a great job of piecing together the Atlanta story with the Bermuda Triangle and the US military and everything. And he's done a great job with it. But my friend sent me, he said, "There was this navy crane ship "and a crane ship is this big beanie ship "with a giant crane. "It's for salvage operations." Now the story goes that in 1936, this ship and I think with some other navy ships were on a salvage mission, you know, officially. But unofficially, they were looking for pieces of Atlantis technology. And what it was, it was these crystal structures. I don't know if it has to do with the two-eye stone or not, but this is down near Barbados and St. Lucia down near South America, supposedly. Well, anyway, the ship was equipped with powerful electromagnets and radio emitters. And I'm not sure who was involved, but probably Tesla is my guess. Maybe he was on board. Anyway, they found this structure. They sent down a navy diving bell and maybe some divers on the hose line. And they found this one structure. And they, you know, Tesla probably knew to activate it with this electromagnets. Well, it came on and, you know, like the Bermuda Triangle, a portal opened and this ship went either into the past or the future. No one's quite sure. And what they came back with, no one knows. But the ship's name was the USS Kearsarge, K-E-A-R-S-A-R-G-E. And I found one picture of this crane ship. It was nothing sexy about it. And, but then fast forward. In 1980, my dad said, I was in high school and he said, come to me to this movie. It's a navy movie. It's a science fiction. It's right up your alley. And I said, sure. Anyway, it was a Kirk Douglas movie called The Final Countdown. And they had full cooperation of the US Navy, you know, carriers, F-14s flying off the plane. The story was they went back in time through this portal, giant portal and they were gonna stop the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, didn't happen. But that was the story. And I thought, this is strange. But we went to the premier and the place was filled with navy brass and admirals. And Kirk Douglas was there and I'm 18 and I'm like, wow, this is cool. But an admiral sat behind us and he patted my dad on the back. And he said, Senator, you know, with your cooperation, you know, we now we got our recruitment film. And they were all excited. Now the movie didn't do well. It wasn't that great. I thought it was kind of weird, you know, navy and time travel. I couldn't figure out why they were cooperating. Remember in 1980, we were just about to get Reagan in office. I think the US Navy and Reagan were perhaps getting ready to disclose some of those stories about navy and portals and the Bermuda Triangle and time travel. But instead, I think George Bush, senior, probably put the kabosh on that because as vice president, he was really the power behind the White House. - Yep. - He was an asshole. I met him a couple of times. - Yeah. - Trust me. I wish I could take it back. But I find those two stories very interesting. And this week, this past week, I was talking with my wife and I was like, this is so weird. You know, I went to this premiere and it was this weird film about a navy carrier going through, you know, I think it was the Nimitz. And, you know, if you read back into FDR's notes, I think on a majestic documents website and I've talked to Dr. Bob Wood about this, you know, FDR called UFO celestial devices. Well, the navy, these things have been popping out of the ocean, the Japanese were firing on the Foo Fighters, they called them. And so we're way it. And there's a document that said, you know, the navy needs to crane these saucers out of the water, bring them back to San Diego Navy Base and get them to Admiral Rico Boda and the Douglas Aircraft Company. So I read William Tonkin's book and I said, shit. This is like the stories I've been chatting with with my navy friends and the all my ONI friends for decades. And my dad and I did a FOIA request on Admiral Rico Boda. He was an Australian-born. The story goes in the book, you know, he wasn't programmed by the American educational system. - Yeah. - Well, forest all, and I think the secretary of defense and FDR, you know, they said, we can trust this guy, you know, put him in charge of all the spooky stuff in San Diego. Well, my dad and I did a FOIA request on him. The only reason we have one picture of Boda is because there's a naval aviation tribute website. And there's a picture of him and said, thank gosh for Admiral Boda or our Navy fighter wing wouldn't have existed 'cause he was a naval aviator. And my dad said, don't worry. I got still got a clearance. I'll call it up. And we did two FOIA requests with a Navy and everything. We got one page. - Yeah. - And it's the same thing that was on the internet. And I said, this guy's scrubbed from history and my dad was furious. - Oh yeah. - He called up somebody in the Navy department. He said, I'm looking at a picture of Boda. Here's his fighter wing. Oh, I can't. Oh, we lost those records in a fire. - Of course they did. - Batson, familiar? Yeah. - Sounds very familiar. - And the other thing about William Tonkin's book, and this is what, you know, there's a picture of him with some of the admirals. And I showed it to my M and I friend who was a Navy captain, retired. And he said, well, I don't know about this book and all this stuff about Nordics and reptilians and Navy space fleet. But two of those admirals are, I know them and they're real stand up guys and they would not be involved with this bullshit if it wasn't real. And it freaked my friend out completely. I mean, he's a 25 year Navy veteran in ONI. - Yeah. - So I'm piecing all this shit together. And I'm like, okay, this is way too close to home. My grandfather's involved in Project Paperclip. You know, yada, yada, yada, the melons, Christ, Christ melons all over the news and the newspapers, every time you farts. (laughing) Orlando, a lying sack of shit. He's a US Army counterintelligence operative. My name, my friend told me, stay away from Lou. He's an in country guy that interrogates people. I said, I have no reason to get anywhere near that guy. - Well, and of course, he's the face of the, you know, DOD disclosure and all that stuff. - Yeah, the DOP, yeah, UAP office. - Right. So going, a few things, going back to that film, you said that you called it our recruitment film, a Navy recruitment. - That's what the Admiral said. And I thought it was really weird, 'cause I'm like, why would I join the Navy if they have a science fiction film on time travel? And then I was like, oh shit. - Well, that's key. I mean, that's huge. - Yeah, I mean, I've tried to find pictures. It was at the Uptown Theater in DC. You can find that out. That's true. I mean, my dad was a Senator at the time in 1980. He was former Secretary of Navy and he had no doubt he would be invited and he invited me. Kirk Douglas was there. You can, you know, it's not a tall detail. - Yeah. - Sounds like it, but it's not, the movie is not very good, but in conjunction with William Tonkin's books and the stories and the USS Eldridge and the Pearsard story about 1936, if that's true, then the Navy had been dealing with time travel technology since 1936. - Definitely. - Yep, that's a game changer to me. There's no way I could prove that, but that's the story I got and it seemed to really disturb my friend. He was like, you know, the Eldridge story is weird enough but this one. But I think once people get over the shock of time travel, it's like, I think they just use it every single day and it's not a big deal. - I think artificial or natural, it's like everyday, whole-home shit. - Well, if you-- - We have a lifetime travel. - I mean, you have to imagine, if let's just pretend 1936 was in fact when they started using this, you know, 2022, I mean-- - It was a mistake. They didn't know what was gonna happen. They, you know, the Navy, I mean, the American military's like, what's this do when they flip the switch? - You know, that's how-- - And I had a portal opens up to, you know, and so, you know, that's just the way they are. - Right. - I mean, I love the Navy and the military, but they, you know, the top 10% and the black hats and the unacknowled programs, you know, fuck them. - Yeah. - But they've been in charge and they've been reckless with people's lives. Understanding the war, they had to take risks in the Philadelphia experiment, but it's still, it's shocking. And of course, we have all these horror stories from, you know, veterans from the secrets-based program. And-- - Right. Well, so-- - Exactly. - Going back to your, you were talking about the Navy retrieving wreckages from the ocean. Now, there was a program I learned about in the John Lear Report called Operation Moon Dust, which was the, I can tell by your smile, you know about that. So, you know, they were using the public, the official story was that Operation Moon Dust was retrieving debris from the space shovels, missions. - Well, they were using the Glomar Explorer. Remember the Howard Hughes ship that was designed to lift a Soviet submarine off the bottom of the ocean? - Okay. - My dad was involved in that when he was Secretary of the Navy, low and behold. That was, yes, they tried to lift a Soviet submarine, there's some footage of it. Guess what else they were lifting off the sea floor? - Right. - And it's all ties in together. - Right, yeah, of course. I just thought it was, you know, I read about Operation Moon Dust, but I hadn't really heard of any information about these materials until you just told that story. But it would make sense why, because if people were to see all this activity out there, they would have to have a public reason for being out there, like, oh, there's some space debris from whatever, you know. - Yeah, they always have a cover. - Yeah, I think the Navy, my personal view, and I wrote this into my book, Lion Tiger Bear, they had been sending diving bells and divers down, probably in the Caribbean or elsewhere all around the world, since probably the 20s, looking for pieces of Atlantis, or craft spacecraft, or anything unusual, how they would find that, I'm not sure, but it would make sense, given that the Kearsarge, if that story's true, it was down there with a task force, and they knew where to look, and they knew how to activate whatever that crystal technology was, they said it was a structure. So as you guys know, stone, various stone, the pyramids and everything else, it's made of different types of granite and sandstones, it's all piezoelectric, it's called crystal. - Yep. - So, don't get me started with that shit. (laughing) - So what are your thoughts on-- - That'll bend your mind, that's a whole show right there, just the megaloid. - Oh yeah, easily. - Right, you're right. So let's bring Russia into the picture here in the Soviets, because what do you think, you know, they've been, you know, the bad guy the entire time, the enemy the entire time, and it's looking like now, they might be the actual enemy of the deep state. And what do you think Russia's involvement is in all this involvement? - Well, I'll give you some background. I was a Russian history major in college, and I went to Russia with my dad in 1990 to meet with Gorbachev, with Senator Dole and a CODEL Senate mission. Basically, to tell him, please don't sell weapons to Saddam. I'm saying we're gonna invade, but they did anyway. But I was in a Kremlin for that. So I know a lot about Russian history. A couple of things, I'm gonna be careful with my words because it's inflammatory. All war, I'm against all war, even though I'm a military historian, I'm against it. It's proxy wars, it's, you know, the light versus the dark, it's, but I didn't think Putin would invade. I was wrong. I had told that my military people, none of them thought they were gonna actually do it. He did it. There are old Soviet chemical biolabs there that I think that's been established as a fact. Sovias are no saints either. You know, we're all pretty bad at all that stuff. I honestly don't know what's going on. You know, I was wrong that he would invade. I mean, Putin, some people say he's cloned. He's not the real Putin. Your head gives the spinning as to what's really going on. I did catch them using old footage of Soviet military maneuvers. And when CNN came on in the early days, I think they got nailed for that. Yeah. Yeah, they were using footage from video games and all kinds. They do that to illustrate, but they should tell people that. But they do that to illustrate, which is not a bad way to do it, because sometimes you don't have the footage and a picture's worth a million words. It's very strange, some of the things going on. The movie "Wag the Dog" I think should be talked about in this context, but I do think they were fighting, obviously, and the Ukrainians are suffering for it. But it is Russia attacking Russia. Ukraine was never really part of the EU's. No way they were going to be part of NATO. They just sort of kind of broke away in name only. And then, you know, Prime Minister was an actor and a comedian, I thought that was a little strange, but hey, wrong ring him. Well, what about Russia as a city? What about Russia as like involvement in the space programs and stuff like you're going back to the '50s, the saucer craze and all that stuff? You know, we were always against Russia, the space race and all this stuff. What kind of information do you have or have you come across any information like the Americans working with the Soviets back then? It wasn't actually a war. - Yeah, apparently behind the scenes, we were working with them and the Cold War was just like a surface level show kind of thing. - That's exactly true. My dad said it called me up, I was in college at the University of Virginia. He called me up one day. This is back before cell phones, obviously. And it was 1982 or three. And we got very close to the nuclear war. A lot of people don't know that, but there were severe tensions between East and West. And he said, you know, get ready. If I call you again, you get to the farm and you bring your friends with you 'cause we might be in for an attack. And I said, are you serious? - I thought we were cooperating with the Russians on the down low about, you know, the sensitive stuff. He said, yes, but the generals and admirals on the surface don't know that. They're really fighting this Cold War. And so, you know, changes in East, you can look up that history if you want, but I'll never forget that. Yes, my dad told me that. I said, we always been cooperating with the Russians because back to World War II, Len Lease, we gave a lot of planes and equipment to the Russians' food, you know, thank God for spam. But the Russians have a right to be angry at the West. And World War I, the British and the French, let the Russians become against the German army in the Eastern Front, World War II, even worse. And as JP Farrell and I agree with him, I think some type of exotic, maybe atomic munitions were used on the Eastern Front. I mean, one of my Russian historian colleagues emailed me years ago and said, "It's not 27 million, we think. We think it's more like 30 or 33 million." And you can't kill that, yes, disease and starvation, but you cannot kill that many people with bombs and even the thermobaric cold dust, Nebo-Verfer rocket barrage that the Germans had, and the Russians had them too. You kill a lot, they're like tactical news, but come on. There's a story that up in near Latvia that the Germans let off an atomic device in October of '44, I can't get any information other than some, the person that told us to me was somewhat reliable. There is, I have it in my notes somewhere. There's, I mean, you just can't kill that many people. So the Russians have a right to be angry. They took the brunt of World War II casualties. Oh yeah. And I write about it, the book I'm writing now is another sequel and I talk about the Gustav gun. The Gustav gun was the biggest railway gun in the world. It doesn't really make sense. They say they built it for the Magna line. Yeah, but it took like five years to build and untold millions of Reichsmarks. And it's like, hmm, you know, they say they lobbed a shell in the Crimea in Sebastopol to a Russian ammunition bunker that added the biggest explosion of World War II. Hmm, fast forward to Yemen. A CIA friend said, look at this video. This is years ago. Look at this video on Yemen. That is not an ammunition bunker. That is a tactical nuke. You can look up some of these videos, massive explosions. And you see this trickling of light and sparkles like fireworks. He says, that's the electromagnetic signature left over. And he says, we have tactical nukes now where the radiation signature dissolves in 48 to 72 hours. So it's not a useless weapon anymore. These tactical nukes are, I think, in my opinion, they're used and they have been used since World War II. You know, it's interesting. You said October of '44, there was apparently an atomic bomb. That story, yeah, I don't have any proof. But I find it interesting because I think of this date, 1945, that these people in the programs, the Secret Space Program, are told that the Earth was destroyed by a cobalt bomb in 1945 and they can't no longer return. They can no longer go back. And I think it's an interesting year that they chose. And that's the closest I've heard of an actual explosion, you know, to that date. I don't know, I just connected some dots here. - Well, '45 is also the end of World War II. - Right, it's the end of World War II. - Like, why did they choose that day, exactly? That's interesting. - Well, you know, like Philip K. Dick, you can talk about alternative timelines, the man in the high castle. Probably true that there was a timeline when that did happen. And then when the Germans in Japanese did win the war, of course, the Nazis never lost, they never signed off. They all went to Antarctica or the United States or Argentina. - They infiltrated the United States. - Oh, yeah. - And the Palestinians, yeah. - Well, trust me, my grandfather worked with some of those guys. - Exactly. - So he knew-- - Did they lose. - Warren Burger or Bill Holocopter, you know, and others, you know, through the Project Paperclip. I mean, my grandfather said he knew Von Braun and Kurt Davis. And I was like, they were American heroes to me growing up. They were all, they were all like, oh, I'm all proud of the moon race. I was so proud. You know, now I'm like, shit. You know, the whole place is for the Nazis. Was it you that was saying how Operation Paperclip, the real, how it got its name, was they literally just paper clipped a new identity on top of the old form because Truman had made it illegal for Nazis to enter the US. So they had to-- - That's just boilerplate stuff. - Right, right. I think I've heard you talk about that before. - But if you look on, if you do some research on big banks and corporations in the '50s, there's always a, you know, a Reinhard Schmitz, you know, on the board. That's like Reinhard Schmitz. Who the hell's that? You know, that's not as real name, but you know, they demanded, the story is they demanded. You know, after the 1952 overflight of DC, which we could still see, everyone's like, I don't wanna believe in UFOs. I'm like, Christ, look up the headline from 1952. - That's like a document. - It's a documented verifiable event. - More than likely that was German, the Germans saying, hey, hey, hi, you know, Guten Tag, you know, and they said we want beyond boards, you know, we wanna be in corporations, we wanna be everywhere. And of course, we were like, you know, let's share technology. Absolutely, you know, why not? Now there were a lot of Americans who were very angry at that. I'll tell you a story I found out. In Huntsville, Alabama, a lot of the Germans settled there. Back in the '50s, you know, when NASA was started, you know, Huntsville was a very racist place. I'm sorry, he was, and the Germans liked that. So that's number one. Always remember why Houston in the South, there's some, you know, trigonometry with rockets and other things, you know, the azimuth, you know, being further south on Cape Canaveral, but still, they were much more comfortable in the Jim Crow South, the Germans. But at the Huntsville NASA facility, a guy told me this years ago, and I was in a car club. I have an old Mercedes from 1969. He's like, he's like, you know the, all the Germans drove S-class Mercedes on a standard NASA military salary. Well, all the Americans were pissed off. This was the Martin Borman schluss fund, no doubt, you know, and they had big houses in Huntsville and they had Mercedes and all this stuff. They never wanted for anything. And it's because of that. I thought that was story. He's like, you can see all the Chevrolet's and Ford's in the NASA parking lot, and then there's a row of Mercedes all parked together in a special spot. - I thought that was kind of funny. - Right, you know, it's funny. You mentioned NASA, you know how he said that the generals and the admirals on the cold board didn't know that they, they weren't really-- - Some didn't. - Some didn't. - You, yes. - But that's also how NASA operates. Does NASA scientists don't understand that they're not working at the, on a cream in a crop, you know? - It's all compartmentalized. - Yep. - Exactly, you need to know. - NASA's always been military. It was never a civilian organization. If you look at their bylaws and everything and you think they prove it, they presented it on TV as if it was. - But it wasn't. - It's a defense organization, right? Or something like that. - Yeah, absolutely. - It's under national security protocols. Look at each other. - So what do you, what do you think's going on with SpaceX? You know, there's a lot of controversy there, but. - I got a lot of, I got a lot of hate on Twitter when I would do my memes on Elon Musk. I don't trust the guy. Number one, he is Afrikaner German, origin. - Oh really? - I think all Afrikaner Germans are racist or whatever, you know, but they don't have the greatest human rights record. And there are rumors that AIDS and Ebola were bio-weapons that were let out to decimate the African populations. I don't know if that's true, but it sure does make sense. A lot of ex-Nazis did go down to South Africa after the war, that's proven. I'm not saying Elon Musk is an Aussie. A lot of people think he's this new age guy, he was a genius, who created PayPal. And then now all of a sudden his amazing chemical rockets are gonna mind space and make everything wonderful. And I'm like, we're already in. Yeah, the space, we're already in space. Here's the guy, you can't do that with chemical rockets. And we're like, oh no, it can land itself. And I'm like, that looks like CG to me. - Hey, there it is. - I got a lot of flak for that. - Well, some of those videos. - Some of those videos I swear were CGI that when the rocket rocket's landing back on the pad, 100%, I'm like, who's falling for this? Like I've seen video games look better than this. - Right, but people love him because he's seen as a Messiah savior. I assure you, I'm not saying he's all dark. I think he's a very complex man. Yes, he's very smart, but I find, you know, these, you know, the Facebook kid and other, you know, these geniuses that come out of nowhere and all of a sudden they're running, you know, trillion dollar companies, I find that problematic. - It seemed like puppets to me. - Yeah, they seem like-- - They just seem like-- - They just seem like the big school-- - Controlled puppets, yeah. - Some people say they're bio robots, you know. - I mean, it's possible. Maybe. - You know, I wouldn't be surprised. - You know, a lot of people don't understand, I'm sorry to take a lot of tangents, but World War II is my thing. - I've recently found out, you know, Mengele was this guy. I think he read, Mengele must have read The Island of Dr. Moreau by H. G. Wells, probably a hundred times. 'Cause, you know, he was involved in the worst experiments in the Nazi death camps, but there's a story going around that he and others invented a retrovirus. Now, I'm writing this in my new book and it's a very horrifying story, so I apologize to everyone, but I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. The story goes, and I tend to believe it, 'cause the Nazis obviously were brutal, just, you know, unconscionable. And that they had a program going back to the 34, I think, where they would impregnate mothers with this special retrovirus, but then beat them regularly. And I mean, beat the shit out of them. And what they found was when the baby was born and grew three, four, five years old, that young man, or I don't think there was a lot of women, but there may be some, was very tough child. It was almost feral, but it, you know, in conjunction with this mysterious retrovirus, which I think was modifying DNA, even back then, they were experimenting and trying an improved Aryan soldier. Now, I've found some references to this in certain books and things, but given what I know about the Nazis and what they're really up to in the occult, it would not surprise me if the story's true. And I'm writing it that way. It's a horrible story to think about these poor mothers. There were a lot of child deaths and mothers dying. To do this brutal, you know, almost Neanderthal type thing to make a very tough child. - Yeah, it's just like your-- - Angela? I mean, Angela is just, you know, and he had a, apparently he had a laboratory in Paraguay before the war, because the Nazis have been down in South America a lot. San Carlos de Baraloche, you know, that they were settlers in the 19th century in the wheat, the sheep cattle down in that part of Argentina in the mountains. And when the Germans move to a new land, they take their culture with them. They don't really assimilate directly if I'm wrong out there, but if you go down to San Carlos de Baraloche, it looks like Munich and they speak German, Spanish. There's all kinds of stories about that, you know, project paper clip and presidents going down there and Hitler being buried not too far away if he made it there. - Are you familiar with the movie Boys from Brazil? - Yeah, it's a very good movie. - I mean, he wasn't George Green. He was on Kerry Cassidy project Camelot. And he claims that that movie is direct disclosure of the colonial operation that was going on at that time. - I mean, I think there's something too that whatever the experiment really was, whether they're using Adolf Hitler's, you have to remember Adolf Hitler from everything I've known about him. I'm just a red 50 books on the guy. People say, oh, he wasn't that smart. No, he's very smart. He wasn't a coward. He won the iron cross and the trenches. He was gassed and then he had a hysterical blindness and other things. The tool of society. - I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. - Hey, how's it going today? - It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. - I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. - That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases? - The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're gonna take it to the end that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. - Are insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys? - We don't bluff. We take it to trial and we are not strangers of getting very, very, very large verdicts. - Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? - Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. 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The rumor is that his illegitimate father was Kaiser Wilhelm II. Now, royalty throughout the era, that's common to have out of wedlock children, and sometimes they would care for them. If that's true, you know, a lot of people say he looks like his father, Alois, Hitler, but he does, but anyway, the rural society, you know, these are very, very old. It goes back to the lords of the Black Stone, you know, the Black Sun societies, all these things in the 19th century, coming up to the, it's nothing new. There were things, oh, it was a new thing. No, it wasn't. - No. - They wouldn't have chosen this guy, had he not had some interesting bloodlines, whatever they were, royal or otherwise. - Yeah. - But that's a possibility, why they chose him. And of course he wasn't an idiot. He was a psychopath, but he wasn't an idiot. A lot of psychopaths have to have a high IQ quotient. - They're very intelligent, yeah. - England was a genius, mad genius. - But zero empathy. - Right, now we're getting into equality and good evil, and it's all relative and grand. - And a very effed up morality system, where they think basically, it's like might equals right, you know, like if I can do whatever I want, then that's, makes it okay. That's kind of like good. - Yeah, it's like psychopaths, you know. - Yeah, I think it's like a path. - Do you, do you, what do you know about Carl House offer? You know anything about Carl House offer? - Yeah, I've drilled down in my books about the Nazi occult. House offer was a heroin addict. He was unreliable, but that doesn't mean he didn't know his shit. House offer was very well versed in the occult. So it was Rudolph Hess, and you can read that in the other book. - Was he not the one who groomed Hitler? According to what I've read, he was kind of given a task to groom Hitler into his position after a trip he had made to Tibet and spent some time with their, at the Tibetan monastery, to the green dragon society or something like that. - Yeah, there is a story that he did. I remember Rudolph Hess was born in Alexandria, Egypt. He grew up with mystics. He was a very much of a mystic himself. He was a romantic. And he certainly admired Hitler. And I think personally, the real society and the tool of society, they said groom this guy for us. He's rough around the edges, but he's no dummy. He speaks well and has, by all accounts, some accounts, there's a book called the Pink Triangle that asserts that a lot of the Nazi high command were gay. Certainly, Ernst Rome with the SA, the brown shirts was gay. His idea was the sacred band of thieves from Greece, get gay lovers to fight for you and they'll fight, which did happen in history. But the Nazis kind of had a portion of that twisted military homosexual ethos. But besides that, I think Rudolph Hess was, he was a co-author of "Mind Conf". Pretty rigid book if I got through it once, but I think it took a year off my life. - Yeah. - But house offer, Hess, Himmler, these people were very well versed in the occult. - Right. - Oh, Himmler wasn't in the occult. That's a fucking lie. - That is the one. - Himmler, Hess, house offer and Hitler and other Nazi high commands were vegetarians. Why? You guys know? - They understood, well, they understood about vibrations and, well, go ahead, I'll let you. - Okay, there's a book called "The Coming Race". - Yeah. - Right. - "Borthel or Litten". They took that seriously. Now, there are stories that they went down to Agartha and whatnot. And I write about that in my books. But the higher vibrational people, only eight plants. Now, I find it curious that none of them, house offer took heroin, but he didn't drink alcohol 'cause that lowers your vibration, evil spirits. Some say it creates a portal in your pineal gland if you drink when you black out. And certainly everyone does stupid things and they can't remember. So that's where he, you wouldn't have barbed on that one. - Right. - Evil spirits, that's where we get the name spirits from. - Sure. - They were all vegetarians, they didn't drink. And Himmler did some other, it's amazing what they did. And it's like, why? Pork, beer, you know, this was German staples. - Yeah, they were, the Nazis were very into the occult. Their symbol, this swastika is an occult symbol. It's a very ancient symbol. And so what they did was they banned the occult, anything on the surface level for everyone else because they didn't want anyone else to have this knowledge. - Right. - Because it creates a power. It creates a power. - They closed all the Masonic halls in the 30th. - They closed everything, they banned it. Yep. - And they were in the power. But they had the horse power to do. Well, they were empowered in 33. And so they closed all that stuff down. They had the Atlantis Society in Berlin. The building still survived. You can see it. The SS were obsessed with Atlantis lore. - Yep. - Guess who else was, I guess, the US Navy. So, you know, this stuff, it starts to get, you know, they probably learned if, you know, the Navy had good spies in Germany all through the 30s. - Yeah. - Well, I'm talking to writes about that. And it's true. So everyone has, you know, this twisted version of what the Nazis were into. The I write about the honor and Arabic SS. I write about Edmund Gere and Ershafer, their characters in my books. And then, you know, they're not saints or anything, but, you know, a lot of the honor and Arabic, like Bruno Baker, he had Jewish prisoners killed at Auschwitz. So you can have a museum of skeletons. Here's the Aryan Superman. Here are the inferior, you know, homosexuals, Jews and Russians. I mean, it's sick. But, you know, a lot of this stuff, just 'cause they were psychopaths, doesn't mean a lot of it wasn't true. But the history is, the history books have told us, oh, no, they were all crazy. - Well, part of the reason I think they were vegan or they didn't eat meat and didn't drink is because they were trying to connect with ETs, communicate with other races. And they understood that you couldn't do that unless you could get as close to you as you could to matching their vibration. And it makes it easier for the other being to communicate with you if you're at a higher vibration. - You're matching frequencies. - Right. - And so let's just say for giggles, you know, regressives, aldebarons or whatever, we're meeting with the Nazis, which I write. I believe that, you know, call me crazy. But it doesn't matter what your polarity is, but frequency in everything in the cosmos is important and balance between that is doubly important. And everything is about balancing a frequencies and, you know, vibration for cuisine. - Right. - So they understood that. And, you know, the swastika is interesting. A lot of people get this wrong. When it was, the Boy Scouts used to have it and the Native Americans always had it, but the Nazis reversed it. - Yeah, they did. - Now the swastika has a million meanings, good fortune and everything, but the Nazis knew and the house offer knew this and the Hess knew it, I know that. It also is the torsion spiral twisting of the universe and the cosmos, galaxies, everything spins, everything spins, the solar system, it's all torsion. - Yep. - So they knew it meant that as well. And it also meant it, they thought it meant inevitable victory. So when you reversed that symbol, that was a powerful gesture. Everyone's like, oh, they got it wrong, they reversed it. - No, they knew exactly what they were doing. - Yep. - I think the real society picked it for them, I think. - Right. And they take, they reverse it or some people say a hijack, a lot of those benevolent symbols. A lot of things that were taught now that are like, are superstitious or bad, like the number 13 or 666, like even like taking that, like 13, if you go back and read, I don't know where you would find any literature on it, but you can reduce some research. And it's actually a very positive number. It means good luck, but they've reversed that. - The pentagram, the upside down pentagram, it's supposed to be right-side up as a positive symbol. And they, they invert it to upside down. And then that becomes the satanic. And that's what the, the cabal uses that. Yeah, it's like they invert everything. So it becomes negative rather than a positive. - Yeah, it's energy is energy symbols are neutral. Just like energy. - Yeah, exactly. Use what you will, but you know, in Jordan Maxwell, does a great job at piecing together symbolism throughout time itself. And how, you know, my favorite is the circle with a cross in it, which was the ancient, in its ancient form meant peace. - Yeah. - You see that carved on rocks with a spiral. - They flip it upside down. - The spiral I think denotes, hey, this is a portal. You know, here's the frequency, have at it, you know, have fun. And you see that all through the Southwest and New Grange and Ireland, you know, always the spiral, the Celtic spiral. And all these were pretty much universal in the, out in the universe, symbols. Because apparently E.T.s when telepathy is used to communicate, it's something but holographic representations of symbols. - Yeah. - And imagine what a swastika symbol used in context with others, how much information you could put out in, you know, one millionth of a second. - Yeah. - Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. And so that's, when they carved them on rocks, everyone looked at it, okay, it's like a McDonald's menu. Oh, yeah, okay. Okay, yeah, we're going into this portal and we'll do some astral traveling and, yeah. - Well, that's just, that's just it. They understood the power of these symbols and they understood how to utilize them. And that's like what I was saying, 666. That reduces down to nine, which is a completion number. And it can be used in rituals and ceremonies as a completion. Now, whether they're trying to complete, that's the big question. And I find that very interesting. - I mean, symbols are fascinating. I've tried my best at symbology. It's very complicated. And it's interpretational, of course. And they have multiple meanings, which doesn't make anything easier. But I think symbols are important. We're not taught, we're taught, you know, the Christian cross, that's a predeluvian symbol for reincarnation, resurrection. - Yep. - It doesn't have anything to do with Christianity. They co-opted it out of Mithra-ism, which was popular in ancient Rome. Funny, Mr. Mithra had 12 disciples too. - Hmm. - No, interesting. - Yeah, yeah. Yeah, look at our Mithra-ism. I went to a church school up here at the National Cathedral. Yeah, I ever mentioned it. You know, we had to study the Bible. And actually, Christian history was very interesting, 'cause I'm like, wait a minute, papal armies? The Pope had his armies? What's going on with the Medicis and everything? And they were like, we're gonna skip over that chapters. - Yeah. - Don't worry about that. They're hiding something. - Right. - No, yeah. - Hidden history, everything is. I mean, that's what everything we've done. - Everything is. - Yeah. I mean, the textbook history that we get is the indoctrinated version of their reality, you know? They want, you know, we talk about this all the time. But just by this discussion, like discussion, every topic we wanna go back to, whatever we decide to talk about, we can all pretty much agree that the mainstream story is bogus. And no matter what, no matter what, because they started off on the wrong foot. I mean, it's never been what we've thought it was. And that's, you know, that's what we're coming to realize now. - Yeah. You know what's interesting? Because I'm a historian, I collect history books. Not a lot, but if you, I got one off of, I think eBay years ago. It's an 1855 book on American and European history. And I believe it was for either high school or college. Anyway, it's six inches thick. Now, if you look at a high school, you know, 12th grade or whatever, history book, it's one third the size. - Yeah. - Right. - You know, it's stuff like that that gives you great pause. And colleges are getting rid of their, you know, music and arts programs and everything. They want everyone hive minded and ignorant and stupid and towing the party line, which is the matrix line, you know. - Yeah. - You only need to know this, go work in a cubicle on a computer and, you know, punch a clock as a death slide. - Yeah, exactly. - And so it's obvious. And people say, "Oh no, I'm gonna go to college, "and I'm gonna do this and that." And they have a clever way of funneling students into certain careers. - And they create the careers that make all the money are the ones that serve the system the best. - Right. - And you wonder why. - No wonder of finance, economics. Or are you going to the military, which I almost did, but I was like, where are you going? - I'm not good with authority, so I didn't. But, and then they send you to, you know, it's either finance that or politics, which is nonsense. It's just distilled judgment. You know, even my dad was like, "They're all bought and paid for." - Right. - I mean, he was fairly honest as a politician, but he told me interesting things. He said, you know, they're all bought and paid for. And he said, "To get elected, you have to lie." (upbeat music) - I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. - Hey, how's it going today? - It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. - I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. - That's pretty awesome. 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He's like, you'll be gone in the first round. - Yeah. - It's just a moment like you. - Yeah, exactly. - So, you know, and he was a very successful politician and he was able to befriend and he tried to do a lot of good things for the state of Virginia. - But he still toed the status quo line and, but I learned a lot from him just by osmosis. - Yeah. - This is what I don't wanna be. - Sure, yeah. - What I learned from him. - Yeah. - I don't wanna be a military officer and because it's my personal belief that if you become a military officer, I don't care what branch, you sign a pile of documents, somewhere there's a code number and that code number is your responsibility to look it up, which I doubt you could even find it, but says, hey, national security, you know, if you work in sensitive programs and you tattle a tail after you're out of the service and you're at the bar drinking beer, we have the right to hang you. And so this is why a lot of these admirals over the years, you know, one friend of my dad, he said, I said, you know, what can you tell me about the Navy secret technology bulb? And he's like, he's like, I can't tell you because I take my national security of secret, you know, seriously, but maybe she'd read this book. You know, he would write down five books and I'm very in the right direction. And basically saying, you're gonna find a lot of the truth here. And so that was my life. I've always been in sort of in the room. You know, I look around, I'm like, God, I was everywhere with this, with this stuff. I remember my dad and Jimmy Carter, they weren't real good friends, but Jimmy Carter, most people don't realize he ran on a platform in 1976 on ending UFO secrecy. He had seen two of them. - Yeah. - You know, but people forget this history. It's not, it's not told to us. And the current crop of the disclosure movement, they don't look back and they piece together things in a historical context. They come right out of the box and say, oh my God, you know, the Wasatch Mountains were building and they'd be going, oh, by the way, there's a million kids in there with no context. And by the way, there's no Nazis that have been age-regressed, but there's no historical context with that. - Yeah. - I came to this very slowly. I was always, my mother gave me UFO books and magazines to read. She never believed in the moon landing. I think we went there. We just weren't alone, obviously. - Yeah, I agree with that. - Yeah, but, you know, some of the later missions of Apollo 12, we were just working overtime in London. - The big question is, you know, everyone's caught up on whether the moon landing was fake or not, but the better question is, why did we just suddenly stop going to the moon for no reason? - Well, we didn't. - Well, we didn't exactly publicly, why did they? Oh, we just, we were done with that. - Skylab, the space shuttle. Space shuttle was a piece of shit. - Yeah. - Not even a rocket scientist. I understand cars and engineering and ships. And I said, this is the, first of all, it's ugly. I was there, my dad took me to the USS Enterprise unveiling and all the Star Trek people came in the '70s out of Dulles Airport. I was there with him. And it's the ugliest fucking thing, space ship, and all the starting of William Shattner, where everybody was like, oh my God, it's so ugly. Where's the real enterprise? Well, little do they know, we were building real enterprises somewhere else. You know, and this was the public face of our technology and it was shit. - Right. - Did the Germans blow up one, did the O-rings go? You know, I don't know. But it was, you were spam in the can. - Right. - Yeah. - It's sad. It was so sorry for the people who died in those rings. You know, the military stuff people die all the time and training, but. - Well, that's a sad part is, I think about that when you're watching like NASA footage of everybody like Houston or mission control or something and they're all like celebrating and crying because a rover landed on Mars and their tears point on their face. And it's, if, because they believe that they were really working, you know, this is all real. And I feel bad for these people. - I'm like, if you only do. - They have no idea at all. It's all compartmentalized. - Sorry, if you can't crack a book or two or watch your video or two. I'm sorry. I don't feel sorry for them at all. - Yeah. - I understand people are understandably ignorant and ill-informed by and large in society. It's an agenda. - Yeah. - But my God, there's so much shit out there, but no one goes there because they think it's the French. - Yeah. - It's changing, it's changing slowly, but there's gonna come a time, I think, within 15 years, where people are gonna start catching big lies that the US government and the media are telling us and they're like, wait a minute. Maybe we should go listen to those guys when journey to truth. You know, I think they've got a point, you know, and everyone else. There's gonna be this consciousness shift. It's coming slowly 35 years ago, there was no one. I was, you know, people that had never heard of Stephen Greer or anybody now. And now I have friends who at least since 2017, they say, well, you know, it's interesting. I was watching you and Stephen Greer I have to find that interesting. And I'm like, oh my God, the skies are falling. - Yeah. - When did you get a clue? You know, I'm sorry. - Right. Well, and a lot, and it's good though, because people are opening their minds up to it and we're getting to a point where it's not a laughable topic anymore. And that's partially because of this UAP disclosure narrative. - No, I talked Chris that. I said, you and Elizondo have done us a solid. You've opened the conversation, which was dead. - Yeah. - It's not a laughing stock batter anymore. - Yeah, news agencies were told to give the UFO subject the giggle factor. - Yeah. - That's a quote. And that's what they use. You know, and they get beautiful women up there with the halo effect, you know, and, you know, going, oh, you know, ha, ha, ha, ha. I mean, I have a friend who has a show on Fox. What's her name? Oh God. Anyway, she does that program there. She gave Steven Greer two minutes. Two minutes. And then she cut it off. - Oh, yeah. - I didn't even bother. - No, yeah. - Just to be people- - Laura Ingram. Like Laura Ingram, I know her. - Laura Ingram, yeah. - Yeah. Laura's a nice person, but, you know, at least they had Greer on, I'll give them that. - Yeah. - Like, oh, Hannity's on our side. And then what is it? Tucker Carlson. And I'm like, I've been around DC my life, you know, these people, if they're given this much, you know, they'll run with that. And they won't expand on it at all. And Tucker Carlson's as Chris Melonon, "Oh, you guys are heroes!" - Well, why do the American people misdirecting this topic? - Right. - They will never get disclosure from the military or the U.S. government. - Well, that shows you, those people, it's all part of the same system. When Lou Alizondo and Chris Melon, and these so-called, you know, disclosure people that are telling the truth are get all the mainstream coverage. That's all the mainstream wants to cover and talk about, what does that tell you? They're all, they're a part of the system or they're being used maybe unwittingly, but they're being used by the system for an agenda. It's all pretty interesting. - Your audience knows all this stuff. But, you know, it's like, when I go back and I've seen things talked about over the years, you know, they're doing the same old thing now. They're just doing more of it. - Yeah. - UAP Task Force, UAP Office. That's a joke. That's where all the dead letters go on Capitol Hill. Oh my God, emails and dead letters, people still write letters. And they're like, oh my God, I saw a disc and the grays abducted my dog, you know? And it's like, oh, that's very interesting. They throw it into the pit. - If they even read it. - These things, Project Blue Book, these things have been around these tactics, but they're running out of ideas and they're running out of time. - Yep. - The reason I know that is because they wouldn't have a melon come out there talking about this bullshit if they weren't getting internal pressure. Now, I don't know who it is, the deep safe, the military and the Pentagon are full factions. They always have been UFOs or otherwise, you know? But somebody's saying, get out there and do a dog and pony show and play it up good this time. Get a band, get a stage, you know, get the good clowns and they're, oh my God, you know? - My theory is just keep doing it so people will know that we're on top of things, you know, and we're not, we're still not. - Right, my theory is that, so these people aren't gonna blackmail themselves. They all blood on their hands. They're not gonna come on and say, oh, we've been lying to you. We've had this technology at all time. They're not gonna do it. So with this new report, which was a nothing burger that, you know, they even had the audacity to put a weather balloon in there again. But they said that, you know, I forgot how they worried it, but it was basically nothing. It was, they were saying it was still inconclusive, whatever. But why are they doing this? Because when it does come out, they want their hands, they want, they're free of it, you know? And they're gonna start pointing fingers at Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop, all these aerospace industries. And they're gonna say it's their black budget programs that was doing this stuff and not the military. That's what I think is going on. - They, some of them might, but remember all those corporations, they own all the congressmen and senators. - Yeah. - They own them. - Mm hmm. - Yeah, they just tied together. - They just tied it himself with the Navy and Marines so no one would fuck with him. But dealing with the Navy and Marines is still dealing with Lockheed Martin and Boeing and McDonnell Douglas and, you know, all of the military contractors. But, you know, so he was smart enough to do that, but other, you know, I met a woman who's running for Congress and she, oh my God, this is years ago, but she spent 25 million of her husband's money and then they got divorced, obviously, and didn't make it to Senator Congress. I can't remember which one it was. And I said, why'd you do that? And she's like, oh, I've got the fire in the belly. I really wanna change things. And I said, you're not gonna change anything. Nothing sensitive. And she's like, oh no, you know, I said, what about UFOs? And, oh, I'll get to all that. I'll tackle all that. And I said, with respect, you won't. Because they'll put the kabosh on you even if you make it to being a Senator or Congresswoman. They will not let you talk about that. She was so utterly naive. She was in her 40s. I said, my dad's a senator. You know who my dad is and I'm telling you the truth. You're not gonna change Jack shit. Sure you can get a road built in Buckwheat County, you know, Buckville, nothing else. Our schools and roads and bridges fall apart 'cause the money's going to the deep state and all the military stuff. And Chris Millen is out there yelling threat, threat, threat. UAP threat, tic-tac threat. And there's a truth to that because they want plausible deniability. Yup. It's insidious. I sent him a message. I probably didn't get it. And I said, that's below man. It's a whole control system that's very compartmentalized. And the real stuff and the real power goes on and the black things that are like very, very hidden and very secretive and very controlled and everything's compartmentalized and need to know. So what we see, the politicians we see on the surface level are basically all puppets and they don't really have any real power, essentially. And they're kept in the dark and from most- - Yeah, some of the sensitive stuff. - Yeah. - But not the big stuff. Not the big thing. - And this is one of the things I do like that Stephen Greer talks about is that he exposes that with a lot of his info and documentaries. Like these, what do you see call special access project, unacknowledged special access projects. And where he talks about he exposes how like presidents, we think the kind of mindset most people have is that the president has all this power in there in charge of everything. - No. - And that's not true at all, at all. - They're way down the future. - They're way down the food chain. - Yeah. - Stephen Greer has this quote and he got it from us, I think a senator and it's true. They are presidents are transient custodians of the status quo. - Exactly. - More. And that's, you know, I believe the story when Obama was put in office that Bush senior went in there and said, you listen to me, you probably looking man of color. This is how the real world works. I believe that. And his secretary of state Susan Rice is a high school friend of mine. And I talked about it with Susan, but she's a straight shooter on that. She does not delve into this kind of stuff, but. - Well, they don't want people that think like us. - No. - We're one of those cannons. There's an old Joe Rogan comedy skit from stand up in 2005 where he talks about, you know, voting for a president is like rooting for pro wrestling. You know, they want you to think that you have some sort of say in it, but you know, really. And then it's like they intentionally put a dumb guy in charge to see to find out how dumb the population is, you know. - Almost as a joke for them, you'd be like, look, we can even put somebody this dumb as the president and people will still think it's real. - Yeah. - And yeah, still think it. - Well, that reminds me on now, I know the second thing that's I want to talk about that's unpopular with some people. But I'm going to say it anyway. I've been very close to politics all my life. - I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. - Hey, how's it going today? - It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. - I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. - That's pretty awesome. I think I saw Billboard of the years recently that said 20 billion won. 20 million is an insane number. - Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. - Awesome. - How does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? - Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. 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I don't mean offense to anyone, but they're putting all their eggs in one basket with Donald Trump, and I'm like, holy shit, no way. - He's not a savior. - Yeah. - When I was looking at the QAnon stuff, my military friend said, those are genuine actionable codes, what the stuff they're talking about with 107. And I love Kerry Cassidy, but damn it, she's on this JFK Jr's live thing. - Right. - And I hope the guys alive. - You might be. - And when I was young, my sister knew him very well. That's not him. My sister and her friends knew JFK Jr. extremely well. This guy complaining 107. - 107. - Okay, junior was not religious. Religion is part of our control system worldwide problem. - Amen. - Thank you. - I don't know why Kerry Cassidy would support this guy if he's saying, oh, prophecy isn't God, and we're gonna liberate children, and I don't know. - Yeah. - And I'm like, that's a huge red flag. - I don't steer anything. - Don't bring religion into this fucking mess. That's what got us into this mess in the first fucking place. - Thank you. - I'm sorry to cut. - No, you're good. I don't steer anybody towards 107 different. - It's a sci-op, Penny Brennan said it to me years ago. It's obvious. Now, I'm not saying Trump's a bad guy. Come on, he worked with a mom getting all his buildings built in New York. - You know what? I just knew the guy. You know, this guy knows the deep state how it works. Yes, I'm sure he's done some good things, some positive things, but he is not this savior messiah that people say he is. - No. - I don't think he's gonna run with JFK Jr. even if the guy still is alive. I mean, I hope he's still alive. Nice guy. - I'm starting to think-- - He wasn't as smart as tool as shit either. - No, I'm starting and especially when he's like pushing, pushing the jab and certain things like that that are like-- - No, that's, that's-- - Okay, what's that about? - Hell. - Yeah. - I mean, critical thinking. - I think he was more-- - We think he was more-- - You know, and there's lack of critical thinking. It's like, you need to piece all this stuff together. And there's only a few of us to do. And I say that with sadness. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but it's like the disclosure movement is completely at odds in fighting and dysfunctional. It's like, when the general public starts to turn to everyone in the disclosure movement, it's gonna be a shit show. 'Cause no one can agree on fucking anything. - Right. - There's so many different narratives. - That's a problem. - Well, you know, this is a good-- - Do I conquer? Do I conquer? - This is a good point to bring up 'cause while Trump was still president, we were always talking about Q and Trump and we were, you know, we supported him and we were all, you know, Trump. But now as things are playing out, you know, we've backed away from that and we're not so gung-ho about that. And it's been a, you know, it's a learning process for all of us, but I agree with you. I don't think like at this point, I mean, yeah, of course he's the better option right now if then, you know, than this thing we have in office. - Yes, he is. - But he's the better option, but I don't think, like you said, don't put all your eggs in one basket with him because on some level, I'm sure he's a puppet also, you know, he's not-- Or, well, what I think, if the Alliance is real and they, 'cause there was certain intel that said the Alliance recruited Trump to be, you know, the guy to run against Hillary and they're gonna make sure she doesn't win with the manipulation and blah, blah, blah. But if that's true, I think he was mostly just like a placeholder. So they knew they couldn't have a deep state person like Hillary, of course, in the White House in power. So they needed somebody as a placeholder while they can do the real operations, behind the scenes and start cleaning stuff up. - That's what Darryl James said. He said that Trump was, Trump was-- - That's all he was. - Just to stay out of their way. - Yes. - Trump was, he was there so they could have somebody in that way-- - That's not a deep state. - To stay out of their way, yeah. - Yeah. - Well, he technically is part of the deep state, but, you know, this is the problem. Everyone thinks it's a black and white alliance versus deep state, and I'm like-- - No, it's not. - No, that's not the traditional way, all this stuff has been going on since World War II. It's factions, fighting factions, and maybe cooperation on some things. I'm sure Trump and his military, you know, the military is very pro-Trump. That I've sussed out with my contacts, my friends who were in the military, they were like, "Oh yeah." And that's a good thing, because you're never gonna get control disclosure with truth in it without some military backing, because, you know, as you know, the real black hats in the deep state, you know, they'd rather crack the earth in half than have some of this stuff come out. - Right. - I mean it. - Yeah. - Because they can leave the earth. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - They're like fuck these guys. - Yeah, yeah. - But there's, you know, the earth is a garden plant, and it's a very valuable part of the cosmos. It's alive, gaius, it has a soul. Sending through the ascension process, I think, as well as we are, we're part of that. - Exactly. - And so it gets very complicated with metaphysics, but, and that's why I said everyone's focused on politics, and it's like, God, if there's anything my dad told me is politics is complete bullshit for the most part. It's a fake show. - Right. - It's not gonna get anywhere, you know, I'm gonna vote for Trump and we'll have disclosure. It's like, it's not gonna work that way. - Well, 100% of it- - I can't save anyone. - And it's designed, it's designed to siphon your energy. They want you to put your energy into that instead of focusing on the real issues. And even yourself, you know. - That's the thing, instead of focusing on yourself, working on yourself, you've got a million distractions. You've got pro football, you've got politics. It's all red and circuses and distractions. - Right. - I've just gained it all my life. It's amazing. My dad said, well, when you get up there and you've got a sensitive issue, you've got to give a speech on, you're like, well, it's like Lou Elizondo. It's like, well, I can't speak to that UFO sighting, but I can speak to, you know, my sailboat, which I'm varishing right now, I go out there and I see strange things as guy, but I don't know what they are. And all of a sudden, the original question is forgotten. - Well, Lou Elizondo always dances around remote viewing topic also, because- - I teach 60 stuff. - I know, but he acts like I just watched a recent interview with him and he was asked about it. And, you know, he had this very like, oh, I can't talk about that. You know, it was just like, he makes it so mysterious for some reason. Like, well, I don't know, what's he actually doing? - West Army counterintelligence and book 101. - Yeah. - I mean, he's out there diluting and shifting the narrative sideways. It's the analogy I always give in my interviews is very apt. You have a frozen lake and you put a Corvette out there with a thousand horsepower. They're putting more power to the ground, but they're only going in circles. - Yeah. - Oh, see, we're moving ahead with this UAP office thing. That's we're advancing. No, you're just creating something else. You know, you're putting more gas down, but you're still going in a circle. And so people think, well, gosh, this circle, you know, now there's 10 corvettes out there going in a circle and they're going 500 miles an hour and I'm like, it's still a circle. - Yeah, 100 miles an hour. - But going nowhere. It's a common counterintelligence tactic. And because America believes that, you know, generally believes what they see on the media, it's a problem, they can go out there and say, oh, there's only one alien on planet Earth and it's my cousin, John Warner, you know, and everyone's like, I knew it, I knew it. But after me, you know, people will believe anything. - Right. - It's sad. We're dealing with a multifaceted, multi-prong issue, problem. Everyone's asleep, they've been taught incorrect history, they're ignorant, they're lazy and they're tired, you know, they're overworked, they're drinking beer, you know, and all that stuff. And then you've got the religions doing their thing, which is, you know, oh, and don't worry, you know, God works in a series of ways. - And go to heaven when he dies. - And not eat God, but, and then you have the media and the government and all the distractions. I mean, it's amazing anyone pays any attention to the UFO, ET, hidden history subject at all. - Well, it's, people don't understand how it, how it's relevant to their lives. Like they don't understand how, like I can tell people stuff and I've gotten a response, okay, well, how does that affect me? Well, when you really start researching and diving into it, you realize it's all connected and it affects, you know, it massively affects-- - In a way possible. - Exactly, exactly. - Yeah, exactly. - The law of one and hermetic law and everything, we're all one. I mean, it's, we're having these different experiences. Christ, a third of our lives is spent in the astral world asleep dreaming. You know, I wake up exhausted. I'm like doing all kinds of strange things. And it's very busy, and my dreams, I'm like, tell my, my wife's like, you look exhausted. I said, shit, I was in doing all the stuff and I'm exhausted. - Yeah. - And people are like, oh, that's just the dreams, you know? Spoke pot, I have dreams, and I'm like, no, there's, your mind is always there, you know, your soul is out doing strange things. You know, I have dreams where I wake up, they're very vivid and lucid. And I'm fighting in the Civil War, or the Revolutionary War, and I'm like, shit. You know, yes, I know a lot about history and stuff, but it's real, and it's frightening. But, you know, it's, the problem is, I mean, we have a million problems, so we should call it just challenges. That's a political dodge right there. Oh, you know, you just have challenges. - Challenges. - Yeah, it sounds like my dad. There's so few of us doing this work, but I mentor five people. I'd say that with humility, I say, you think for yourself, you know, and don't take my word for it, go do your own research. But they generally ask my opinions on certain things, and I say, look, I think that within, certainly within 20 years, the rest of my lifetime, a lot of people will start coming towards the disclosure movement, and all of its periphery people, you know, megaliths, archeology, you know, anonaki, everything, everything. They're gonna start to turn to us, and we have a responsibility to get our shit together, and get it straight, as straight as we can, it's a mess. But I piece together everything, and it kind of sort of makes sense. And the history never did, and you piece together all the new stuff, it does make sense. But there's a leap of faith. And, but we all have that responsibility, even if it's like one thing you know, that's still a very important responsibility, because now all of a sudden, you know, people are giving us the credit that's due, and I mean everyone, I don't mean presenters, or, you know, you guys, or me, or I mean everyone. Because I had a friend who I've been, you know, mentoring over the years, and they're like, oh shit, my cousin's starting to ask me questions, and I say, you have the responsibility to tell them what you think. Now what I think, or everyone else, or Greer, or Carrey Cassidy, whatever, what you think, because everything is a perspective. - Right. - And that doesn't make our job any easier, it makes it more difficult, but challenging. But nonetheless, it's the responsibility, I believe, that our higher self, and every time we reincarnate, this is our day job. - Right. Exactly, and be informed enough to be able to answer a question when somebody asks you, you know, don't just go out there shoving this stuff down, people throw it, that doesn't work. If somebody's ready, they're gonna ask you, the universal guide them to you, they'll find a way, and then you can share whatever you feel like they can handle. That's how I see it. - Yeah, I mean, we've all been through it. I've tried to, I had a friend I've known for 45 years. No closer friend exists, and I tried to break this whole thing to him, in a context with Chris Mellon and the UAP and everything, and he just shut down. And now we're not friends anymore. I mean, I think a lot of us can, knows what that pain is. You're messing with people's hard floor reality, and it's a big, shiny, thick wooden floor. You've got an axe, and people are like, what are you doing? Don't, your chop's starting to chop away at their floor, and they're like, what the fuck are you doing? And they will get, one person got angry at me. - Oh yeah. - He really threatened to punch me or hit me with a baseball bat, he said. But you know, and that's what I learned. Oh wow, you need to talk to people that come to you. - Yeah, exactly. - It's not the other way around. - Right, I mean, yeah, we wanna, like how many times do we wanna just like, wake up, like grab somebody and shake 'em. - They view it as an attack on them because they're, people are identified with their beliefs and their version of reality, and you, when you come at them with information that challenges that, even if they're not, they're not consciously knowing that, they're taking it as an attack on them, and they're just, and you're the bad guy now. And I have to defend against you and that information. - Yeah, and this-- - So being open to it. - This is what my characters have to learn in a World War II setting. - Mm-hmm. - By studying Sufi wisdom and philosophy and Carl Jung and, you know, Steiner and, and all that stuff is that, you know, their version of reality is just as valid as ours. Our job is not to slap people awake. I'd love to do that, but that's a negative thing. - Mm-hmm, yeah. - It throws something on that. What it is, I'm trying to formulate this in my mind, I try to practice this every day, my wife and I. You know, we're all going through holographic universe cosmos as light beings. You know, everyone's reincarnated. Obviously, all of us in a disclosure movement, every single one of us is a light warrior. I think that's obvious. And I mentioned this in my books, and it's part of that is processing the pain that the closest, most wonderful people you love in the world will never cotton to what you're talking about or relate to it in this lifetime. You know, they're, they have incarnated and said, I'm going to be asleep my whole life. Or maybe at the end of my life, I'll have a come to Jesus and, you know, whatever. That's to be respected, because, in other words, I also like to portray this in my writing is that all these psychopaths and Hitler's and, you know, Epstein's and all that, they're there to teach us something. - Yep. - In other words, I read a story that purports, they were going to go back with a time travel operation, military operation and kill Hitler. I'm sure a lot of people thought about that. - Oh yeah. - No, it's the wrong thing to do because he needs to live out his lifetime and destiny so that, me way, all of us will learn painful lessons because evolution only comes from stress. And so it's very difficult, I'm thinking about writing this in my another book is having people go back in time. I think they found that when they do time travel, if you mess with something like you push a link in an office stage or something into the mud, if you alter that timeline, you're just going to create another timeline. And so they've come back from these missions and gone, well, you know, is history changed? They're like, no, what the hell happened? And it's like, timelines merge and then they split and then they steal-- - Mandeler starts. - Mandeler. - It's difficult to kill someone and expect a change. If you go back and kill Adolf Hitler, somebody else would have taken his place. And we have pretty much a similar outcome. And that's sad with the Holocaust. It's very sad. But remember, as harsh as it is, I believe that every one of those people, those are the bravest people, the people that incarnate, knowing they're going to lead a life of severe suffering and then an early death. - Right. - A person in the Holocaust, Russian or Jew or someone as a child. And that takes, you know, I like to think of myself, I'm a big tough person and it's like, wow, I didn't think of that one. You know, I don't remember my past lives. My hair cells was a bunch of jerks. They hardly tell me anything, whatever. I get synchronicity. My wife and I are like, oh, synchronicity. It happens to us along, but very dropper, you know, stuff. I think it's amazing when people are able, I tried regression therapy, didn't work. No one can hypnotize me, even if I want it to be. And I think perhaps it's my higher self going, it calls me dummy. It says, hey, dummy, no, you're not going to learn your past lives because it's not good for you right now. You need to do what you got to do, you know. - I agree with that. - Knowing that. 'Cause if you know all that, you won't do what you need to do. - No, definitely. - Right. - Exactly. - I'll say if we came here with our memories, we would never be motivated. Well, we would never do anything because we would just, we would see everything for what it is. And then you. - Yeah, see, my wife and I, we work with wounded veterans at my farm twice a year. They come for a rustic black powder, you know, with flintlock, you know, deer hunt. And it's a very therapeutic thing for them. And it's the way we, she's not been doing it for years. And it's our way of trying to give back, in a hands-on, you know, grassroots way. And it's so rewarding. I have pictures on my website. They're the most wonderful people. And, you know, there's guys your age or even gals. And they say, oh my God, I've got 300 people. So it was a shrapnel in me. I'm in chronic pain, but they can't take it out. And it's doubly painful for me and my wife, because we know they have MedVic technology to heal all that. - Right. - Sure, all the kids with cancer. And I even talked about this with Chris Mellon. He's like, yeah, I've heard about that. You know, and that was the one thing we fucking agreed on. Some of this, bringing out some of this technology, which I think he is trying to do, I hope, in his own weird, patrician, you know, button, coat and tie way. But that was the one thing we did agree on. And I said, I know that it got it. Because, you know, my own eye guy says, you know, I can't talk about that, but, you know, a lot of people nod to me in conversations. I ask a question, I mean, just nod. It's like my dad, you know, hey, did you go aboard a spaceship? He just nods, something like that. - Right, it's true. I believe it's true. - That way they can say, well, I never told them anything. - Right. - They didn't. - I've talked to somebody within a Navy, and I asked about the MedViz. And same thing, like, they can't tell you, but they tell you. - Well, it's for Navy SEALs and Black Ops use only. Yeah. - Or high importance, maybe an admiral or something. - Right, or the elites. But John, this has been amazing, man. We've been going for close to two hours now. Let people know where they can find you, your website, where they can get your books, all that stuff. - My website is JohnWWarner4author.com. And all the information, and I have photos on their website. I also have a lot of notes that I've taken over the years. They're available for download. It's thousands of pages of just everything. I mean, everything under the sun. It's not personal commentary, it's just my notes. - Right. - I don't know if this, that, and the other, but it's, I try to take notes on everything that's interesting to me. And, you know, all that information is in there. And a lot of your viewers would be very familiar with it. But there are some interesting things I've done with that. And the books are available there. All my profits go to a wounded veteran charities. Amazon gives me 10 cents or something. I have cheap bastards. There's another bio-robot in control of trillions of dollars. - Yep, right. - But I'll tell you these people, everyone's like, "Oh, Elon Musk is the richest guy in the world." And I'm like, "Um, no." There are royal families in Europe, maybe the British and everything else. They have hundreds of trillions. - Or we don't know, we don't know the names of them. - Well, money is meaningless. It's only meaningful to the little people. - And the amount of gold on the planet is way more than, is on the books. - Yeah, it's even working way more. That's another thing I found out that maybe, God, I cried. And was when they were looking, they knew about Yamashita, generally Yamashita's gold stashes, the Japanese general. He was the conqueror of Singapore. And he's a nasty piece of work. But he had caches of this stuff. He raided all the Khmer ruins and everything, caves in Vietnam during World War II. A lot of the reason, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think it's true. A lot of the reason we had to do this island hopping would had to do with securing those stashes. Because as a military historian, I could tell you, we didn't need to take all those little islands to die pan and everything like that. A lot of historians are with me on that. They're kind of like, yeah, that doesn't make much sense. Why do we do that? And I think it's because of that. I think the G2 army intelligence and OSS and everyone, they were like, no, we need to take this little island at the cost of God knows how many thousands of lives, not only for an air base, but because there's treasure there. And who knows there might have been crash UFOs at the time, other things. Yeah, definitely recovering that during the war. Right. Right. There's a story that I heard that there was a Navy ship. It was craning a spaceship out of the Coral Sea while it was being attacked by Japanese bombers. That's a sci-fi movie for you right there. Yeah, it was right out of sci-fi. I wouldn't believe it except for the person who told me that. Well, thanks for coming on, man. This has been great. Thanks for sharing everything with us. It's a lot of fun. And yeah, we'll put your links below. Guys, there's still tickets available to the conference. You want to come out and learn some more about the secret space program, hang out with all of us and just finally get to be with people in person instead of online. That's what I'm looking most forward to. So come hang out with us, secretspaceconference.info. John, this is awesome. Thanks, man. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. You guys do a great job. Thank you. Thank you for- Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Oh, yeah. Would you, people, you're on Twitter, right? Can you drop your Twitter? No, not on Twitter. I gave it up. OK. Too much work for too little. It's not worth it. It's not looking for reward. But everything I did, you know, I did try to do very well. And it's obviously, you know, they've got my number. I know Chris and Lou. Right, yeah. It's kind of a lost car. They're on me too. But at the end of the day, Twitter, it's a, it's a mish-man. It's a slurry of, you know, it's just a fast food fix for the human mind. Right. Yeah. Perfect, great. That's social media in general. Yeah. All right. All right. Good night, everybody. Thanks for tuning in, and we will see you next time. Good night. Good night, guys. 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