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EP 175 - Suzanne Spooner & Mark Domizio - United We Stand - SSP Recall & The Healing Journey

Originally aired on 3/10/22
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Ever since I was a little girl I have wondered what life is all about and how I fit in to that picture. I’d look into the night sky and deeply want to know what was outside of where I could see and wondered how it all was made. In my early 20’s I started to read books by Edgar Cayce and Shirley MacLain and others. I delved into the topic of past lives. I studied Reiki, and energy work.
In 2008 I had a breakthrough where a teachable process of channeling came through me. It was called The Art of Universal Knowing or TAUK for short. The aspect that I loved about my process of TAUK was that it demonstrated that all answers lie within each of us if we have the desire to remember our connection. I started teaching TAUK in classes and one on one. I then developed an online class that is widely used and successful.
In 2012 I took my first class with Dolores Cannon and instantly felt a homecoming in her work and the results I saw on my friends and clients. Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique (QHHT), like TAUK, provided the experience of finding where all answers are, but in a different and beautifully simple way.
My QHHT practice grew, I became a moderator of Dolores Cannon’s Official Worldwide Professional Support Forum for Practitioners and began assisting the great and humble Dolores in her live-in-person classes in the United States and Australia. I’ve facilitated hundreds of QHHT sessions and am always amazed and recharged after each session. To sit amongst the energy of a client’s High Self is like sitting in a bowl of love soup! I feel I have the best job in the universe(s)!
Since Dolores’ passing in 2014 her daughter Julia, myself and others are dedicated to carrying on the amazing life work of Dolores. It is a thrill to share the experience of QHHT with my clients, to mentor and teach practitioners and to keep exploring the multi-dimensionality that I wondered about as a little girl.
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Mark Domizio - Diego Garcia - Navy Black Project Survivor

Marks QHHT session w/Suzanne Spooner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk9M0idYO18

Duration:: 1h 28m
Broadcast on:: 01 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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Tonight, we are joined by the lovely Suzanne Spooner and Mark Damesio. We've had both of them on the show before their returning guest. Mark was episode 129. Suzanne was episode 143. If you guys are interested in checking those out, both fantastic episodes. Mark's episode was the first time he's ever came public sharing his testimony is a very powerful episode. But tonight, we're going to, we're joined by both of them. And Suzanne has been helping Mark recover his memories through QHHT. So it's really interesting dynamic here. And then we're going to get into what it's been like for them to work together and see what stuff has come up and where it's taken them. And there's a lot of stuff that we're going to get into all kinds of stuff today. So welcome to the show, guys. Thank you. It's great to be here. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, let us know. So, obviously, this has been a journey for both of you guys over. How long have you guys been working together now? Oh, gosh. How long has it been, Mark? It's about six years. I think maybe gone a little bit more. Yeah. I think it's six years in December. Wow. Wow. And I'm sure you guys already know listening. Mark and Suzanne are both speaking at the conference. And they're going to be doing a presentation together, actually. And we're going to get a sneak peek of what they're going to be talking about, but they're not going to give up, give away too much. But so, yeah, you guys have been working together for six years. That's a long time. What has that journey looked like? Whoever wants to take the hands to take the wheel on this one. Go ahead, Siz. You can go first. Okay. Well, when Mark first reached out to me, it was, you know, everybody that wants a session has a story of what got them to the point of wanting to dive into their deep consciousness to find answers or healing for themselves. And Mark, he just really struck me as somebody, just so incredibly genuine, very confused about what had happened in his life, wanted answers. And that's, you know, that's what I do. That's, I help people find their answers. And we all can do it. It's not hard to do, but his story, you know, the very first session we did, it was, it was a mind-blower for me. I had to, you know, I never know where they're going to go. And I don't know, you know, what they're going to experience. So I'm kind of riding by the seat of my pants for every session. But with Mark, it really opened my mind up to these things that are happening around the planet. And I'd had clients that had felt like they had had similar situations. But Mark's was so tangible. And it was just such an honor to help him uncover these things that were important for him. And I thought after the first one, he'd had enough of me and the whole situation. It's a lot to uncover and unpack. But, you know, he did something that I think is really significant. He worked with the information that he gave himself to understand more deeply. And as time went on, he was ready to unpack some more and explore his amazing memories. I think what's important about that is, you know, everybody right now is, it seems like tons of people are having stuff surfaced and they're looking for answers and they're trying to find help. And it's, I think it's really, it's really special what you guys have had. Because it's not, you know, we're always looking all over the place, having a session with this person, this person, this person. But to work with one person all time and really unpack this stuff, it's very, it's very unique. And I think your story is going to help a lot of people. And so how has this looked for you, Mark, as far as, you know, just working with one individual trying to uncover all this stuff? Well, I don't think I could have worked with anybody else. It was after the first session, it would have been too strange to go to somebody new. And it's really personal information that comes out. So, yeah, I didn't think I was going to go back for a second session. You know, but the first session, you have to remember, I actually had that information for years. It wasn't like I just got it a year before or a week before. I had been trying to, you know, not think about it, you know, through drugs and alcohol for decades. So I got just a little piece on the first one. It just, in fact, I think my high self basically just said, yes, it did happen. And the reason I went for the first one, I haven't really discussed it a lot, has to do with a reptilian I saw. That was the real push for the first one, because I was having nightmares. I couldn't see that who it was or what it was. And that's what it turned out to be the reptilian. So once I got, you know, verification that I wasn't crazy and it happened for my high self, it was like, okay, that was good enough for me. I was like, and you're supposed to listen to, well, my high self said, listen to this recording like once a week, you know, and get the healing part, because there's a healing part to the QHHT, you know, where you get physical and spiritual from your high self. So I listened to that first recording at one time. And it just, it was too emotional for me. So I just, I never listened to it again. And then, you know, two years later, it stuff started getting so bad. And I was so suicidal that I went back for the second session. And you get so much personal stuff came out, you know, that I shared with Suze. It's like, you know, stuff my wife, nobody else know about in the world. Oh, that's, you know, because stuff comes out about, you know, being in solitary and being raped and all that, you know, she heard all that stuff way before my wife did, you know, so I never talked about it. And I went into a little detail, you know, but the two big things that always bothered me was that reptilian and the guy that died in the cell with me, I felt guilty about him. So the first and second were actually for that reason, because there's things that bother me. Yeah, understandably. And you're right, there's a lot of personal stuff that comes out of this these sessions. And you don't expect it most of the time. And when you get it, it's when you get this information, it's like, you almost want to guard it with your life. You don't want anybody to know by it's kind of scary. You don't even know if you believe it, you're still processing it. And I can totally understand why you keep going back to one person. And do you have many returning customers, Suzanne, or is this is Mark, one of the few? Okay, can you hear me? Yes. No, there's most people will just come once for a session. That's normal. There are several that I've worked with many times, a few times, for different reasons. And that I say, you know, if you want to come back and play in my sandbox again, we could do this, you know, and it's amazing because they're usually, they're given in that first session what they can handle, you know, the part of them that knows everything we call subconscious, myself, whatever that name is, gives them exactly what they need at that moment to help them to understand what's happened in their life. And as they pill those layers of the onion, you know, through time, sometimes they feel like, okay, I think I'm ready for more. And, you know, then we can absolutely do that. It's, it's, it's pretty interesting how those sessions that are multiple on path or in deeper each time. Exactly. And that's one of the key things. You get deeper and deeper each time. And that's actually how you've come to the realization mark that there's screen memories, you know, because sometimes in the early sessions, you're only getting to a screen memory. But through more sessions, you're getting deeper and you're realizing that it was just that, a screen memory. That's not actually what happened. What actually happened was very beneath that. But if you go for one session, or you just, you know, explore it a little bit and stop, you may, you may get to a false truth, you know, and you're not going to get the real healing that you need by doing that. And that's why this stuff isn't, it's nothing to mess around with. And it's, you know, and because there's real fun. Yeah, well, go ahead. What are your thoughts on like getting through those screen memories? It's interesting you say that, because the only screen memory I know I'm positive of is, and the reason I never figured it out is because I didn't listen to that first recording. But the first recording, I was in training, and I'm on a bus. And I look, you know, look out the window and we're spaced out about five seats apart sitting on this bus. And in my memory, I have a, like a jacket on, and I look over and there's like mountains. It looks a lot like areas of New Mexico I've seen. That's what I saw in my mind. But I never listened to the recording, because what my high self is explaining, is describing, is not what I'm seeing in my mind at all. He was describing my high self said, it's a drab city, and there were sand around there. So it wasn't even the same description. There was no mountains. I think they gave me that screen memory. So I would always be confused as to what creation is to where it happened. And interesting thing about the screen memory is, I didn't figure that out until last year, because I just started listening to that recording yet. But I had a session with Peter Maxwell Slattery. And screen memories, if you have a psychic, somebody's reading your mind, they'll pick up that screen memory as a real memory. He picked that up. He thought I was in San Día, New Mexico, from that screen memory, because that's what the screen memory was. But so it's just an interesting thing. It's part of it. It acts like a real memory in your head. Right. And then I guess that's the interesting part about this is, like figuring that out. So you really have to be in tune with yourself to feel into that information, whether it's truthful or not, to even determine that it's a screen memory. And Suzanne, how was this process working with him? Because was this surprising you as well, whenever he would... So information would come through, and then you would think this happened to Mark. And then the next time you'd be like, no, this didn't happen. This actually happened. Was that surprising to you as well? Yeah, it definitely was. It's just like you just think you understand the storyline, and then it's a whole different... Plot twist. Right. It's like he's on first, he's on third. And Mark is just... He is so open to his story that it was helpful for me when Mark would say, I thought it was this, but I think it's actually that, which gave me, okay, so we've got two parallels going on here, and we can focus on either one, see what we can get from each of them. Because I always say, with anybody, the answer may be what you think it is, and it may not be at all, and it might be in between, and that's what we're going to find today. So leave yourself wide open to all these different possibilities. And so Mark is, his story is so multi-layered, and not ever changing, but ever deeper from where we began. But I think we needed to begin where we did in order to grasp the enormity of his experience. Right. You know, you have to wonder on some and some level, those screen memories might actually be helpful for you. Maybe like your higher self even set that up somehow, because if you were to get straight to the bottom of the traumatic stuff right off the bat, it might not help be beneficial to anybody. So that screen memory, yeah, as much as it sucks that it's there and it can confuse you and fool you, it's also kind of like, it's like softening the blow a little bit. So you're just, you know, you're easing into the reality of what possibly happened. So it's really interesting to think about that. Yeah, you're right there, because if I would have found out right from the start, I was in a dumb in Diego Garcia. I don't think I could have handled that, but you know, San Diego was much more acceptable. I kind of knew stuff about New Mexico. So it wasn't that shocking too. Right, yeah. So the San Dia memory turned out to be just totally false. There you were. Total false. Okay, you were never in. Yeah, all of my memories in sand training, because in the beginning, I was trained on the surface and it was all sand and a little course they had us on. That memory, I always thought, well, that lines up with San Dia, you know, it could be out in the desert there. So it did line up and I accepted it for a long time until a little over a year ago, I had a session with Rebecca Rose, because I wanted to find out the location of where all this happened. And I was already hearing about Mars that I had been there. So I had a session with her and we went, she opened up my cache of records, and that's where we went right away. It went Diego Garcia. And that's totally made sense, you know. Yeah, so many testimonies have bits and pieces or time spent at Diego Garcia. So it seems to be a hot spot, I guess, or a jump point for people coming on and off planet for programs. Diego Garcia, for those who don't know, it's an island in the Indian Ocean, correct Mark? And it is, it is an active military base that you can find on the map, you know, that's no surprise. That's public. That's public. Yeah. But there is an underground dump aspect to it, a dump. And it goes for layers, levels, you know, how many layers did you say you think it was Mark? I don't know, but it would go down to the dump, then you had underneath that you had that tunnel city, then below that you had the prisons and the experimentation labs. Right. That gets pretty deep. Sorry, I want to apologize guys, if you guys are hearing a glitch on my microphone, I don't know what I can do about that. But just bear with us, please. I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. I think I saw a billboard of yours recently that said 20 billion won. 20 million is insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. That's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is always waiting to take your call 24/7, 365. Wow, Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit ForThePeople.com for an office near you. Step into the world of power, loyalty, and luck. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. With family, canollies, and spins mean everything. 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And then you get to that one person that seems to have the key for exactly what you need to break that contract or heal or break. Whatever it is in that, whatever it is in particular that you're trying to work on, seems like there's always one person out there for that. So what are your experiences like, Suzanne, whenever you're doing sessions with people, how many times does the idea of a contract come up? Well, that is it's everybody brings their own questions to their sessions. And it does come up. It's usually along the lines of lessons that they have to learn. And the contracts are there to supply those lessons. And so sometimes between me and their high self or subconscious, we get into this really great conversation about, you know, have the lessons been learned. You know, do they have all the information that they need? Is it serving them anymore? And oftentimes after that explanation, that part of them that knows everything will say, no, we don't need to have it anymore. We're good. And it will just, you know, clear why there's no big show about how you, you know, and that contract is just it's a decision. And then, you know, for the client, they always have free will. So either they're going to believe that and make that the reality or they'll doubt it and they can bring it back together again. So, you know, it's many layers. And what are your feelings about that, Mark? And then the contracts, I know you mentioned, you know, you've had some difficulty trying to break some of those contracts or end them, I should say, what does that look like for you? Well, it's not that type of soul contract. What I found out was in the beginning, when I was in Diego, I had seen this reptilian. And I had only always known that I got tortured for a couple of days and got questioned about that. But lately, I've remembered through meditation with my high self that I also got tortured by that reptilian. So what he did was strangle me, put both his hands around my neck until I passed out. And then when I would wake up, you know, he would keep doing that. And then he started hitting me with like, he didn't torture me physically. He just sent like experiences through his mind, whole experiences, and hit me with the whole experience until I finally said, you know, I had enough. And when I had enough, I made an agreement with these reptilians. So I just found that out. Besides that, I have two other authors that are in with negative, two different negative Nordic groups. So I have a contract with each one of them. Those authors, though. So, you know, many hundreds of times through meditation, I have done the clearing and break all contracts agreements, all that. It's done. So I was, I was amazed to find out that it has done absolutely nothing. That those contracts were still in place. And for whatever reason, it just has, it doesn't have any effect on those types of contracts. So what you have to do for those is you just have to go and do some work. You didn't give consent for them. So you have to go in and, you know, cut the contracts yourself. Right. That's, this is huge information, I think, because a lot of people are trying to do that because some, and there's all different types of contracts. Some come from past lives, you know, sole agreements, different stuff that, you know, alter contracts is entirely different. It's, that's over here, you know, it's entirely different area. So yeah, it's really interesting because I think a lot of people are looking to do that. And, and like you said, you can just do the meditations and you're not really getting, you're not really taking care of anything. There's, there's more involved sometimes. And I wonder if sometimes that contract is, is actually crucial, is important to your path. Maybe it maybe it might not seem like it, but there might be a lesson in it for you. Or there's some growing or, or healing that needs to take place. And it wouldn't be able to happen unless you were in that contract. I don't know if maybe they're all meant to be broken is what I'm trying to say. Well, I think they are. I, they're all going to be broken. Okay. What it's going to do for me is you're right. It's, it's, it's going to help me to develop the skill to, to break that and to figure that out. And then maybe I can pass that onto other people. Yeah. So figure that out. It's a definite thing. It's, it can be done. I mean, it's, it's just takes work. Seriously, you have to meditate if you have guides, rant, help your guides. But I'm finding out that this stuff really is done. You really need to do this with your high self. And so, okay, this is an interesting thing. Suzanne, like it, so your sessions, how often are you working with the clients high self? Is this every, every, every session? Okay. Yeah. And is that like the whole session? Or is this like you go into different lifetimes and then the high self comes in at the end? Yeah, typically what happens is once we start the hypnosis portion of the session, they'll, that part of them that knows everything, the high self is going to go through the role of decks of all their lifetimes and experiences and pick the one or two or more that's most important for them to see. So we'll go explore those because those have really important lessons to understand about themselves and how it ties into this current life. So usually one to two, they'll visit. And that could be an abstract life of something like nothingness, energy. It can be in a physical body, male or female. So whatever that part of them picks. And then from that time, when we're done looking at those, we'll just make this nice, easy transition over to the high self. It's not hard. It's super, super easy. And that's where we get the information of why they showed them those lifetimes. They start scanning the body and healing the issues. We find that root reasons behind all of the physical issues, which are always emotional spiritual. It's, you know, it's everything. The physical is just a message that's coming through from the experiences that they've had in their life. And then the client had come into a session with a list of questions they want to have answers. So we start in on that list and oftentimes go off in different segues, depending on what that part of them wants to explain to us. It can get to be very broad and very high level information. Sometimes it's really, you know, more down to earth type information, but you never know what a person is going to tap into until you give them the session. I like what you said, what manifests in the physical is like a message or a result from the emotional, the energetics of it, or even the altar. And a lot of times this is where a lot of physical ailments come from that the doctors just can't do anything about it except throw pills at you. Because there's an energetic layer there. There's an energetic healing that has to occur. And whenever you don't, whenever you keep suppressing it, it finds a place in the body to reside. And then, and before you know it, you know, you have a tumor or you have, you know, heart problems where they're in. You're not healing the root cause. So it's going to keep manifesting like you said, you can heal one manifestation and it's just going to change the manifestation over and over until you heal the actual cause of it. That's energetic. That's very true. Right. And the root cause is, you know, something we're all looking for. And some people, some people aren't, some people are just okay with masking it and, you know, living in Lala, you know, exactly. So yeah, I mean, I can only imagine the healing process, Mark and Suzanne, you know, this is a healing journey for all of us. But as we unpack this stuff and uncover it, you know, is emotionally taxing as it is, there, you find sometimes that there's physical relief in a lot of areas of your life. So what does that look like for both of you guys? Whoever wants to take it first. Mark. Go ahead. Okay. Well, physically, let's just go from last year when I first did your, you know, my first interview with you. As I've worked through the trauma, I found that the, actually you're always looking for that little key that fix all. I'll tell you what it is, forgiveness. That's been the way I've gotten through it all is I, some people don't have to go into detail, but I seem to relive the horrible trauma. Like when I starved to death, I went through a couple weeks of just reliving that, you know, in detail. And then you get done that, you forgive the people that are involved, and it just goes away. And you finally get rid of that. So I just been taking that step at a time. So if you really want to look at it, that is the way to get through any of the trauma. You can't just ignore it. You have to look at it in detail. You know, you have to have respect for what happened to you. You can't just ignore it. So you have to remember it, embrace it. You didn't do it to yourself. You just, and you forgive those that were involved. And as soon as you do, that's released and all that energy, all that power they had over you, and all those memories just seem to go. Wow. That's a powerful message. That's so true. And another layer to that is forgiving yourself. And it doesn't, and this is for anything in life. Like sometimes we beat ourselves up over things. And we can't, you know, it helps no one, especially to be hard on yourself. You know, beef, you have to, on some point, you just have to realize, okay, maybe I screwed up or whatever, and forgive yourself. Like, it's okay. You know, there's a lesson here to be learned. Maybe this happened for a reason. This wasn't a mistake. You know, I would have never learned this had and I just went through this, you know, and then you have to be like, it's okay, man, just talk to yourself. Like, you know, I literally do this. I forgive myself for things that you don't even think. You're not defined by your mistakes and things in the past. You get to that place where you realize, yeah, like you said, that's, you forgive the past, whether it's something you've done or others done to you. And then you get to the present where you're like, okay, I'm going to live from the present. Because I am not the past. I'm not what's happening to me or what I've done. I am really what we all are is this, we're not the body, even. So it's like, you get to that place. And it's like, you just let you just naturally let go of all that because it doesn't matter. You've learned the lessons from it. And it's actually blessings in disguise. And you take the good and you leave, you leave the rest, you let go. If I can add, you know, one of the most beautiful things of what I do is when somebody comes in for a session, they all are a little mystified of why things have gone a certain way in their life. You know, they're really good people, but and they try really hard, but this has happened or somebody's done that to them and they just don't get it. And it's, you know, humans, we just all tend to do this kind of tunnel vision of victimization. And society supports it. So, you know, it's right there. And and if I could add, you know, we're taught to support that. We're taught not to go into this part of ourselves that knows everything. We're taught to turn that off, actually, very purposefully so that we are in a confused state that we rely on authority, right? So in my work, you know, when people come in and we sit and talk for a while, a couple of hours, usually, and it's a lot of I don't get it. And then why did that have to happen? And, you know, why my parents are like this and why is my job like that and my spouse and nothing's right. And during the session, though, it all comes through from this very wide perspective, not tunnel vision. We're just so wide in the perspective that it makes sense. And in many times, you know, they'll find out they asked to have these experiences because of what their soul wanted to learn, you know, it's not so personal, really, in that, you know, the worst person in your life agreed to do that for you so that you could have that understanding that knowing. And they're just an actor playing a role. And they're doing a really good job, you know, so, you know, it depends on how long you want to stay locked into the victimization of it. But the beautiful part I see is as they come out of the hypnosis and, you know, they've been there somewhat aware throughout. So they're picking up on some of this. It's like this, this, this look of awe. And oh my gosh, I get it. And oh my gosh, I never thought of it that way before. And, you know, I think, you know, Mark is such a great example of this because, you know, he knew a lot going in, but it's just unfolded and unfolded so much more deeply for him on his journey. And that's, you know, we all carry that knowledge inside. You know, it's a joy to assist people to find theirs. Wow. Yeah. So this is absolutely beautifully said. And this is a great metaphor I heard one time was that, you know, you go, you see a play, you go watch a play. At the end of the play, all the actors come out on stage and then you applaud for them, including the villain. And sometimes the villain gets the loudest applause. Because without the villain, you know, the hero's journey can never happen. And so without that antagonist in our life, what's driving us, what's driving us, you know, so sometimes you have to be grateful for that person is as shitty as they've made things for you. You know, it was all orchestrated, I guess you could say. Well, and if I could just add to that metaphor, at the end, all the cast winners put their arms around each other and bow, you know, they all, you know, they're all loving being in them together, right? And so often in sessions, they'll say that, you know, as they get back up to, you know, the other side or in between the lifetimes, you know, wow, you know, they did a really good job. He, you know, the biggest jerk, you know, and I just love them. They're just, they're, they were so, that was so kind of them to take on that really difficult role to let my soul learn that lesson, because I hadn't learned that before. You know, it's just, you know, my, my job has taught me to really judge nothing, you know, because we really don't know the whole story behind anything. But, you know, but the fun part is getting behind the realities to see, you know, what's going on and, and all the possibilities and probabilities. Yeah, and that's great advice. Not judging anything or anyone, because you never know what that person's going through at home. And, you know, we're not taught how to handle these emotions. So a lot of times people, you know, they project that on the other people without even realizing it sometimes. And when we get triggered by that, and there's a constant cycle of this happening every day, everywhere you go. So if you can be grounded enough and heart centered enough to walk around and not be affected by that and understand what this person might be going through and understand it, especially now, like these times suck for a lot of people. And everyone's, you know, everyone's going through some sort of turmoil or something. So we just have to be really understanding. And just because we evolved to a certain point, we have to, we can't forget about the people who haven't got there yet. And everybody is at their own stage of development, their own stage of awakening. And we can't forget that. And I think that's a key, that's a key aspect to remember. Yeah, understanding is you said the keyword right there. It's all about understanding is when you understand the root cause of why people act the way they do, where it's coming from, you have compassion now for them, because you understand, you're able to see it for what it is rather than just reacting negatively to the surface level. And it's almost like as as we raise our consciousness, the understanding increases, and the wisdom increases, and then you're able to deal with things from a much more wise and mature place, because you understand and you embody that all that knowledge and wisdom. And that's how that's how we'll heal, and that's how we'll start to unify by understanding rather than just this kind of unconscious reacting, which we see in society. Like, they're the bad guy, attack them. They're we're the good guy, you know, this like whole us first them. And that's why the way the structures of society work is to keep us in that low state unconscious, just reacting to everything. And then they can manipulate us, you know, so easily, because we don't even, we're just reacting, we're just unconscious react mode all the time. And we don't understand why things are really happening, and why people are the way they are and why ever, you know, it's like, you got to raise your consciousness to get to that level. 100% unconscious reacting. Yeah. And that's what, yeah, so if you don't want to, because somebody could come at you, you know, this is road rage is a great example of this. Like, I think road rage is a daily test. How are you going to be on to a person cutting you off or doing something? Are you going to constantly just get pissed off about and scream out your window and flip them off or whatever it is? Are you going to just step, you know, because in five minutes, it's not going to matter. And five years, it's completely irrelevant, you know, so you're consciously choosing your actions rather than just unconscious reacting. Right. Yeah, you can let you bless them instead. Right. Yeah. Or you're maybe bringing that experience to you, you know, I think you don't realize that you're creating it. Yeah, you're creating it for 100%. Absolutely. Like, sometimes I wonder, like, okay, you're having a bad day, and then like everything, like, like, like this car pulls out in front of you, another car cuts you off, whatever happens. And you have to think, okay, am I creating this because of the energy I'm choosing to be in today? And, you know, on how you respond to that person, it's up to you. And it can change, it literally can change the course of your day and your life, if you can just learn how to navigate that and not allow that to trigger you and respond maturely and not emotionally. Anyway, exactly. So 20 in bad. I like the direction this conversation. I love it. Right. Right. Exactly. Well, I was going to change the subject. Now you got me worry about it. Yeah. Now, I do want to change the subject because Mark mentioned something before we got on camera that was really intriguing to me as far as and we actually happened to touch this touch on this with our with Penny Bradley on our last episode about. So it's not just a 20 in back. There's other programs where it goes longer. And I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end that we believe in the case. So we fight for every dollar and we're not afraid to go that extra mile for our clients. Our insurance companies like actually afraid of you guys. We don't bluff. 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Sign up now at chumbah casino.com sponsored by Chumbah Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW group for where prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply. You know, having all these different alters and nothing. A lot of this stuff just doesn't make sense. It gets confusing because we hear about this 20 in back, but then like Mark has an alter apparently that's been in for 40 years. And it's so there's a potentially two different programs going on. And what Mark seems to think is the 20 in back is like less than 50% of what's going on. And I would like to get your thoughts on or your opinion on what else you think is happening. I think it's the majority of it is alters. It's different programs with different alters. Many of the people that I've met have several alters. And I know some people where our alters are currently working together in a group right now. So and that's where the majority of the stuff is going on. Not the meetings with ETs and all the other stuff, but the actual battles and nasty stuff that's going on. It seems to be with people's alters. And there's no limitation from what I can see. So this is what I figured out as far as my whole chain. It's more of a flow chart than a timeline. But when they made Hans, I always knew, and it was on the recording, that Hans was in, you know, I was in Diego Garcia, and they transferred my mind to another body on Mars. And that's where I went through that electric shock. Well, that other body that was on Mars is one of my alters. So when they got done with making Hans, that that alter has been used for about 41 years. Right. So, okay, the, yeah, he looks like me. So this is the difference, I would say, is he, he looks like me. He's a bigger buffed up version. From him, though, they've taken, they take it from him and they've made another all through and they put it in different bodies. I have one all through that is a reptilian. So they can keep taking your light and putting it in different bodies. That's why I'm calling it an alter. It's not actual clown. And what you do know is every time they do that, your light gets less and less. So they have a smaller version on it. Mm hmm. Well, it's interesting to note this is important. The reason I wanted to bring this up and it is because if you're having memories, a lot of people immediately think, okay, this is a 20 in back. This is the only option. This is all that it could be. I served in some sort of a 20 in back. There's other programs out there. Like Penny Bradley said, like the Germans don't use the 20 in back tech. They use a different, they kind of like throw you in a stay like regenerate you every week. And they just keep, and then they keep doing this for how until you basically quit taking orders and then until you know, as of no use to them. And then that's whenever you're, it's still like the 20 in back, then you're brought back to your point of origin. But it can last a lot longer than 20 years. There's just different versions of it. And I just think I just wanted to reiterate that because it might help people understand who are going through something right now, that they're, you know, if it just doesn't fit because 20 in back, it's a narrative that some people are trying to fit their story into. And we have to realize that there's so many other possibilities out there. And there's so many programs, experimental programs, it doesn't even mean you were in a space program. You know, there's this is who knows what this is being used for. So I just felt like that was important to touch on. Yeah, there's there's a lot of, you know, it doesn't seem like there's any limitation, just like you said, the one altar I know, in fact, there's two of them, they would get back in the region, like a pot. After a mission, they get back in the region pot. And the one he's always about 30, you know, early 30s. And it just puts him back to that age, heals him, and then he stays there until he does another mission. Yeah. All right, Suzanne. So how many altars do you have? Oh, I think my husband would say a few, a grumpy one, a nice one. I don't know. Yeah, I never felt like that's part of my journey. But, you know, my, my wonderments have been about parallel experiences and simultaneous, you know, somewhat similar, somewhat different, simultaneous lives, timelines that sometimes collide, things like that. And there's so much to grasp on this topic. I'm getting chills right now. I feel like you're onto something there like this is also there's another whole layer to this parallel lifetime that isn't an altar bits of another version of you. You know, there's an astral, we're living, we're doing things in the astral every night that we have bleed through sometimes and when we remember, there's a lot going on here. What's happening in the dimensions right next to us, the dimensions surrounding us, you know, is there an alternate version of us and another dimension? And do we have bleep memories of that? Like, I think as we get into this, or get closer towards disclosure and go through this awakening, it's going to start more layers like this. They're going to start becoming, we're going to start unpacking more and more and start realizing this is so much grander than we ever once thought possible. Well, you know, if I could just add, you know, if we can throw into that batch, a simulation, right? We're not really here. And it's all a simulation. But, you know, here's another possibility. Maybe they're all true, they're all happening all at once. And everybody's reality is true. It's just different, mine different from yours, perhaps. You know, that's, I feel pretty comfortable with that concept. I think that makes, if a soul is meant to experience everything, everything, then we have to go through a lot of different lifetimes and places and connections in order to do that. And can you imagine looking at Mark's whole soul history and seeing the story unfold? And, you know, I think all of us, you know, to a degree have something like that. And it's just, it's more than probably our brains can comprehend for sure. But that's what I love. You know, sometimes when I'm in a session, I'll ask some very out-there question to the myself. And once, oh, you know, you won't understand it. And I said, I know, but I would like to try. So just give it to me, you know, and, you know, I'll keep listening to this over and over and try. And I remember her going, okay, you know, and just so she started giving me this information. And I felt like a cartoon character with my eyes, like going in opposite circles, you know, like, I'm like, okay, stop, I can't take anymore. But, you know, I think that's where we're at, though, which is a beautiful place in humanity where our minds are open to questioning our reality. And what's, you know, our media is so awesome at lying. So we're all kind of going, what? Yeah, I don't know. You know, but think about, you know, when I was young and when, you know, my mom and dad were young, you know, you didn't question any of it. I mean, it just made no sense to question it. You know, and now we know in these days, shady stuff is going on way before that, right? So it is, it's, you know, we're in a time of grace where we get to see this unfoldment happen. And, you know, it is the golden ticket. It's messy and it's uncomfortable. And, you know, nobody's going to align real easily, but it's okay. We're, we're all discovering who we really are. Right. And how many times have we all asked ourselves, like, why did I sign up for this? I'm just like, yeah, I'll be talking to my guides. And I'm like, I don't care if I stop evolving. I'm never going to another planet with amnesia again. Not happy. Yeah. I know. I've been driving in my car going, what in the heck was I thinking, you know, why, why this place is nuts? You know, and I always just get right back in. You chose it. You chose it. You asked to be here. And I'm like, all right, fine. You know, I'll do the work. Right. We have to have a talk with those people who tire from a higher perspective. Right. We see the value of thing of thing of hard time from this perspective. Because we, from the, from the small 3D self, we tend to view anything that causes pain is bad, is it's bad. And I want to avoid it. We're always trying to avoid pain or suffering and anything we perceive as, as negative. But from a higher perspective, those things are very valuable. And that's how we grow. And that's how we, we experience and learn all these and grow. It's all about growth and expansion, ultimately. So it's like, it's actually the opposite. It's a very positive experience from a higher perspective. We just view things as, as negative from here, from our limited 3D self. And, you know, Earth is a very special place in that we get the highest of highs and the lowest of lows and all the emotions that fall in between that. And in most places, they don't have that range. And so that's one of the gifts, which we, we think, oh God, it was, you know, so awful to have a hard, sad emotion or core, whatever, you know, we wish we wouldn't have to experience that. But man, we learn as a soul a lot through that experience. And, you know, we take away a lot from a lifetime of 3D life. Yeah, exactly. And that all, and not everything is, is to help us grow like, pain taxes. That's, there's no good part about that. That's to help you realize that you're not supposed to be doing things like that. You know, the best track. Like, I stay stuck at, yeah, because you can say stuck and keep repeating the same lessons until you're able to move past them. Like, yeah, exactly. Don't say, yeah, pain taxes. Yeah. Yeah, like, I get the tax, but I'm like, I'm like, get that shit out of here. Like, it's so that's like, that is the biggest illusion to me possible. Like, like, it's not like, I just can't, I just can't, you know, the government is constantly taking away your freedoms and thinking for your safety and your benefit. And you keep your stuck in that cycle. Yeah, until you wake up out of it and then you see it for what it is. And then you're able to, right? I mean, that's the only thing it's good for is to wake up out of it and see it for what it is and say, I don't want that and make a different choice rather than you're stuck in it. Exactly. And that's the challenge. That's the test because we can, we can tell ourselves that and realize that all day long until you walk out the front door and you get your head stomped on by every aspect of society, you know, and just like you just mandates and block downs and this and that you can't do this, you can't do that, whatever. So then that's where the test is. Like, how are you going to, how are you going to stand strong through this and how are you going to handle yourself? And I still have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm trying, you know. You know, I think one of the great gifts of these last few years is that we've all learned to feel our way through what's going on, you know, more in a heart-centered way than a head-centered way because that's always going to be fear and it's being thrown at us as fast as we can take it in. But I think, you know, a lot in our communities, you know, have learned to step back and not fall into fear really fast and look at things in a broader perspective, which maybe we weren't doing before, you know, 2020. So well. We thought we were, but we didn't have the test yet, you know. And I think, wow, we've all, you know, evolved so quickly through this. And it's been, the other cool thing, too, is you get to see where people are at. I mean, it's not hidden anymore. You get to see, you know, where your neighbors are in their heads with what they believe, you get to see where our leaders are at. So clearly, you know, and you get to see the people that want to put their head in the sand, you know, like, oh, okay. You know, you're not ready yet. That's okay. It's a great point. It is right now. You can see where everyone's at for the first time ever. The mask is a big indicator. You know, they finally have, you know, all of a sudden with this with this war, all of a sudden, all everything's over with COVID, you know, with this war in quote unquote war. The signs are like all the stores around here. There's no more masked signs. They've taken them down. The employees finally don't have to wear them. And yet 90% of the people or more are still wearing masks willingly, you know, and you can, you can, it's a perfect gauge to see where certain people are, you know what I'm saying? I was, I have to share this story. It was one of the most beautiful things. I was in the grocery store checking out, and there was one lady in front of me. And the cashier was wearing her mask. And the came, the manager came up to her, and said something into her ear. She ripped off her mask and threw it in a trash can. And she had the, like, I could literally see this dark energy just flow away from her. And she just was in this amazing energy all of a sudden. And I said, what was that about? And she says, we just got approval to take our mask off. And she goes, I can finally breathe again. And you could hear the relief in her voice. I got chills. It's really hard to put into words, but being there and watching her shift energetically. And she was, all of a sudden, you can just see her energy, her attitude change. And it was a beautiful thing. It was so, I'm so glad I got to witness it. But it was also sad, because, like, God, people just don't realize how much they're being suppressed and muzzled and all that stuff. And what that mask is, how that mask is actually hurting them. But I was, and it just, like, she was so chipper after that. She's like, Oh my gosh, because I could not stand wearing that thing. I was like, have a good day. She was like, I will now, you know. And so it was, so many people, their actions are based on what authority tells them and what they have to do. They think they have no choice. And like, so what they really want is to not wear the mask, but they're wearing it because they think they have to, they'll be negative consequences. So it's all fear-based control. And that just tells you everything right there. So it's like, if we all stopped living out of fear and doing things because we think we have no choice because of some authority is going to punish us if we don't. It's, you know, it's, it's, and if it was about health, it should be, we should all have the full proof of the science of, okay, this is proven that it's actually helping protect us. Instead, we have the exact opposite. Instead, we ever since the beginning, all we've had is the exact opposite of that. And then you thought we were trying to cover it up until and steamroll us into doing it instead. Oh, yeah. But you know, one of the other great gifts is, you know, through these last couple of years, a lot of us have gone down in different rabbit holes and, you know, found topics and really studied them, researched them that we hadn't had time to do before or did, you know, things, you know, the hamster will was running smooth enough that we weren't really questioning anything. You know, so, I mean, you know, how many people have, you know, for the first time thought about secret, secret space programs, you know, that hadn't before all of this happened. Or another great point is have the time to heal and actually focus on things that you weren't like you were too consumed, like let's say you were consumed by your job by going to work, but now you don't have to go, you can work from home. You have time like Mark, I'm sure this period has been a blessing in disguise for you on some level because of, you know, you've been able to work on this healing process and actually integrate everything instead of being distracted. You know, what does that look like for you? It has. It's actually, I was a hermit for two years before that, so the only difference was is everybody was locked up in me. We were all in the house. So I didn't feel so weird, but yeah, I hadn't gone out. I think in 2017, 18, 19, I never went out. That was going through stuff. So I thought what's been really good about this is the research. I think a lot of people have done a lot to YouTube. They've come up with stuff. I think people also are, they've gotten away from distractions. So now they can use their own discernment and they've built up their own discernment skills, I think. Right. It's just been really good. Right. And there's a lot, I mean, there's a lot surfacing right now. A lot of things we never thought we would be talking about. Just for example, like talking about different types of 20 in back tech and different types of regeneration techs. And a few years ago, you had to convince us that there was even such things as a 20 in back or a secret space program. And now we're having discussions on this certain details about how the tech is used and this and that. We've come such a long way. First, it's amazing to me because there's an entire 90% of the population that still has no idea what we're talking about. This interview would never find them. You know what I mean? And it's amazing to me to see the shift and the change and the discussions we've been having. At first, it went from trying to get people to believe that this stuff actually exists now. Like, okay, it's become very apparent. This is real. Now, we can focus on these other details that we're just, they had no place before because we weren't really there consciously yet. I guess we've evolved in a sense. And I think it's pretty interesting. You know, too, maybe one of the great benefits is that as more things get revealed, those that have looked in research and been curious about things that they had never been curious about before will have an easier time as some of this really bad stuff starts to be known. Um, I don't know. I feel so sorry for those that can't do anything but accept a narrative right now because that, I mean, we're gonna have to be there for all of them because it's going to be I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. Why do you guys think you win so many cases? The insurance companies and other companies that we go against know that we're going to take it to the end that we believe in the case. 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And in her session, somehow her high self and I just got onto this conversation. I don't even remember what I asked, but we started talking about COVID and her high self says, yeah, it's all a ruse. Nice. And she said it a little bit more after that. And I'm like, can we go back? You know, because I knew this would be important for her, you know, I think she would want to have as much information as possible, even if it wasn't what she thought it was going to be. And I said, can you just explain more about what you said about it's a ruse? And she says, yeah, she goes, this is just all to create fear and to see who would be following, you know, who would who would cow tell to the rules. They were testing you guys all out and she got into some more. Oh, she said, I asked, I asked, are there any leaders that are that are good? And she said, she goes, Well, I'm looking here, no, there's no good leaders. Like, gosh, you know, there's a few of them out there. That's because it's going to yes. Yeah, that's right. Yes, that's right. But the amazing part for me was after the session, you know, we always sit and talk for a while and might listen to a little portion here or there, go over what happened, what they remember, what they recall. And I said, there's some information on here that might be hard for you to take in. It's not what you have thought things are. And I just wanted to prepare her a little bit for that. And she goes, okay, you know, what is it? And I said, well, I think it's better if you just listen to it to your, on your own, you know, your private time. And she's like, nope, I went, I want to know what it is. And I'm like, okay, you know, so I played that portion back. Because I wanted to hear, I want her to hear it coming from her than from me. And as she heard that, it for me to witness her was astounding, because you just see like what? Like what? Like this is not what I've got any of this is. I mean, you saw a red pill before your eyes. And coming out of the mouth. Yeah, the light bulb. And it just gives me chills, you know, and I mean, part of me was like, I am so sorry. Because I actually said to her, I said, did this just shift your paradigm? And she said, yeah. And I said, it's okay, you know, just take it in small, small bits. You know, and it's like, wow, that I mean, when she left, I was like, wow, geez, Louise, like, she's not the same person that walked in that walked out. And they never are. But and that's where she said, she goes, oh my gosh, she says, I just always have said, follow the signs, wear a mask, you know, she's a nurse in the hospital. And, you know, I just went in a sounding way to wake up. Well, that's how the system, what you realize is the system takes advantage of our naivete of believing the authorities and the institutions and the governments have our best interests at heart. Because that's what we're taught our whole lives. And we just we want to believe that's true. Because otherwise, we're living in a very terrible system. And that which is the truth. But you know, you want to believe they're telling the truth, you want to believe they have our best interests, they're giving you the real data and telling you the right things to do. And none of that is true is what when you actually start doing your own research and going down these rabbit holes, you realize, Oh my God, they're lying to us about everything. And none of it is for our best interests. It's all for more control for them. Less freedom for us, more pain and suffering for us, more oppression for us, more control. And it's just more and more of that constantly about ever and they create these problems, these false flags and what David I calls problem reaction solution, where they're constantly creating these massive problems and then coming in as the solution and saying, Oh, we'll save you from it. And then it's further there, more control and further their agendas. And they just do that over and over and we keep falling into the trap until it's like finally we're at a point in history where we're finally starting to wake up. Enough of us are to see what's happening, see the manipulation, because it's becoming so obvious. Like you're talking about, you're talking about before, like everything, all the truth, surfacing and everything's becoming so out in the open more than ever before now. Exactly. That we can actually see things for what they finally truly are and make make our own choice rather than being manipulated. Right. Mark, I have a question. So what's interesting to me is so Suzanne, you get you're talking to everyone's higher selves through the session. And Mark, you mentioned earlier about having you meditating and talking to your higher self. Like, that's actually something important I want to touch on, because I think that's the ultimate goal is to be able to have one on one conversations with your higher self without having to use go through someone else. Right. How did you get to that point? And what does that look like for you when you are receiving information? The last session, I don't know if Suzanne remembers, but the last session, there was a point where she says, do you have any talking to my high self? Do you have any more messages from Mark? And the one was, now he knows when I'm talking, when I'm giving him information, he knows what my energy feels like as opposed to his guides. So when I'm talking to him, you know, he'll know who I am. So since then, I know when it's my high self, I can tell that, you know, you get to the point where you can tell your different guides. It's no different from your higher self. The difference is, though, is the way you get the information. When you get information from your high self, it's just right comes right into you. You know, it's not just not relayed. It shows up as memories. It shows up right in the mind. So whenever you're meditating, let's say, because this is actually something I'm trying to work on. And I bet you it's going to look different for everybody. Like, there's like, to me, it seems the method that's been working for me is actually like automatic writing. And that's like, for me, I would have to like almost, if I wanted to talk to my higher self, I would almost have to physically write down the question. And then just start writing the name, just let it might let it flow and just let the pen take over. And then you'd be amazed what comes out sometimes. But you have to be in the right energy to do that. But in your case, it just seems to be so you sit down and meditation. And you just like, yo, what's up, bro? Like, do you start talking to him or what? I'll get into a sphere. Okay, I put a sphere of light around myself. And I'll only invite my guides and my high self. So that's where I'll start my meditation. After I do a clearing of any negative enemies, then you can go right into it. And it's not like waiting for your guides. It's immediate. And you're probably, you don't probably need to do the writing. It's the first thing that comes to you. We usually bounce off, we let it bounce off right away. But that's your high self. It's as immediate as you thinking of the question, the answer is right there. And you'll get to the point where you can detect it. It's like, you'll feel it. It's you. I mean, your high self is like, you know, your God's self. It's you. And the energy is very similar. So it's not like it's a different energy from a guide or something. It just runs right through you. And then I found the more communication you get, you know, the more you accept it, the better your, your dialogues get to where I can, you know, do something that that Sue would do during the, Sue's would do during the session, which is have your high self scan your body. You can, you can do that in meditation, have your high self scan your body. And you can see the stuff that's, that's going on. I've been doing it for implants. That's, that's interesting. So you can scan and actually see like in that theory, can plan or physical implant even. Well, I just learned this from a friend. And she told me how to do it. But yeah, you can just scan. You just trust into your high self. And it brought me right to the exact spots where there was stuff. Right. Had to be worked on. Right. You know, little implant, I had in my solar plexus. And then I could see there was attachments to reptilians with my first three chakras that I need to work on. Right. That's huge. And congratulations. Good for you for getting to that point because it takes a lot of dedication. Obviously you're dedicated for going back to Suzanne for six years. You know, you're really trying to unpack this. And that, you know, good for you. Good for you. Because it's something I'm working on. I think the writing part for me, it was, it's because my mind is so busy. Like, sometimes I don't get like that this bounces off for me for so I have to take the extra step to really focus and by grabbing the pen and writing, it gets me to that place. That's why I say it's probably looks different for everyone. No, that's a good method. What it's doing is just letting your high self channel right through your, and there's no other interference. But I think with time, you want to need that. Right. Well, with time, we'll be talking, we'll be telepathic and everything else. Yeah. Which is another message I've gotten quite a few times over the past few years is like start practicing telepathy, like find somebody you're connected with and really start. And it's just going to be like, you know, we all experience like, oh, I was just thinking about you in the phone rang. We all have it. But if you can actually hone in on that and try and work with somebody, it would probably become very beneficial. It proved to be very beneficial in the coming years. You know, who's really good with that? Children. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you've got small children around you, they're the masters of all of us. These are the ones that are coming in with their memories, with their gifts, being aware of them, and they're here to help us out. Right. Yeah. I mean, if you ever need a reality check, just have a conversation with a three-year-old or five-year-old, you know. Well, it actually, it takes, you just forget about like, it takes the seriousness out of everything. And you just realize like the importance of letting loose and like the importance of remembering to stop and enjoy things and have fun. And remember what it's like to be happy. You know, that's something we all need to remember. Because this, because of what's going on, we're all so serious. We're on a mission. We want disclosure. We want to see, you know, we want to see things change now, you know, we're all so focused on that we forget the stop. We're not living in the present. Right. Yeah. And what's... It's a spill hinge. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Live in the present and check out. You don't have to constantly be posting every day online to wake people up and do this. You don't have to do it all the time. Go take a weekend off. And this is advice I need to take myself also. Like, I need a break right now too. But, um, this conference, you know, we're in the middle. There's a lot going on. But I have to stop more than ever now. And really just like, just forget about all of it. Check out that timeline for a day and go to the park or do whatever it is I need to do. Spend time with some kids, you know, play with the dogs, whatever it is. But, um, it's important to remember. Uh, so what do you guys, um, I know I don't want you guys to give away too much about what you're going to be speaking about. But give us a sneak peek about what to expect from you guys at the conference. Okay. All right. Can you start? Okay. We're going to, um, I'm just going to go through a brief, uh, timeline of my story. And then, um, we're mainly going to be focusing on my three sessions with Suzanne and things I did right, things I did wrong. And, uh, just to give people help and how they can heal and get through these traumatic events. Um, you know, some things I did totally wrong. So we're going to go over those and show, uh, Suzanne can show you. If I did, would have done it right. What would happen? Because there's a lot of, there's a lot of healing that you can get from your high selves that I missed out on because I didn't listen to my recordings. So, um, we're going to do that. And we're going to teach, um, people how a lot of the, uh, negative entities are on traumatic victims like Matt's and how to clear them. And, you know, the usual, all your thoughts aren't your own. So, uh, these were a lot of things that I, I didn't learn till the last year. So I struggled with. Well, I think there's nothing more important than that actually right now. And I thank you. I really look forward to that because, you know, the crowd that's going to be showing up at this conference, like I'm just kind of assuming here, but I would bet that they're all experiences or they're being, they've all participated in some type of program and that's what's drawing them there. And based on some of the emails and comments we've got, that seems to be the case. And, uh, so, you know, that's going to help tremendously. And, uh, would you like to add anything to that Suzanne? You know, I would just say on top of that, you know, there's, there's an empowerment aspect to this and the healing part of this and how it all unfolds and, you know, how not to power a way to, you know, if you have that concept of entities or whatever, um, you know, to, to maintain your sovereign self. Um, you know, it's, it's kind of the, the good news of the situation. And, um, I think when we realize that we are really, truly more in control of our experiences than we've been taught, um, that empowerment is what boys us up to move to the next level. And that's what we want to help and assist people to, you know, to know themselves better and to understand it and come out of fear so that they can see things clearly and understand them better. Mm hmm. Wow. That's going to be great. It's going to be a good talk. I can't wait. I can't wait for the whole thing. Um, it's going to be so much fun. Yeah. So thank you guys for joining us today. Uh, just for the audience, where can people find you? Suzanne, you go ahead and start. Um, my website is Suzanne Spooner, qhht.com. So, um, that's probably where most people would locate me. I've got a few other websites, but that one will get you to all of them. And Mark, do you have anything you'd like to offer as far as work people can find you? Are you just going to remain in cognito? I'm going to remain in cognito. Nice. This is a, that's probably a smart thing to do. Yeah. Uh, all right. Well, thank you guys so much. Thank you guys. This is an amazing conversation. Uh, we really enjoyed having you on. We were, it was amazing. I really appreciate everything you guys are doing for, you know, the whole movement. So thank you. And thank you all for all to our fans and our audience. Everybody who's supporting us right now. Uh, we're looking forward to meeting all you guys who can make it through the conference. Tickets are still available. SecretSpaceConference.info. And hopefully we'll see you there. Until then, have a great evening, everybody. And we will see you next time. He said, um, listen, give me two years. I never want to come back. God, the adventure of a lifetime. And nobody will know you're gone. You get deployed at 17 and a half. And now I was deployed from the New York athletic club. And we got to actually deploy right out of the locker room from, you know, you're being up to the ship and then the ship takes off and you're gone for 20 years. That's a very hard pill to swallow, but that's exactly how I experienced it. I was taken at 10 years old. I was taken and I was worked through several black programs. I was privately owned in the beginning. I did six six or seven years on earth. That's when all the stuff for the programs began for me, specifically the tracking that they had been doing. So as a kid, it followed me all the way through the military. And at that point, I got the dig of our sea. That's where I was taken off planet, like opened that floodgate for me. And then all of these recalls started coming in. And I was just like, Oh my gosh, the way I was describing it, she's like, I've never had this with a client, but that you're describing a parallel life right now. It's a combination of human and other species. I was able to remember the name on their uniform. It's USS R Corp. That was putting me through some kind of recruitment tests from age three until 12. And 12 is when I was potentially well taken. He said, uh, within with your scores, I guarantee you'll make commander and you'll make pilot. And I said pilot of what? And he said, uh, four kilometer long starship. He told me what was going to happen. He said, you volunteer for program will put you in. 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