Journey to Truth
Ep. 37 - Jason Quitt
Originally aired on 10/24/19
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Jason Quitt:
Jason is a graduate of the Institute of Energy Wellness and a student of Algonquin Shamanism. He has been training and working with many teachers, shamans, and traditional healers from around the world. Jason is also the author and teacher of "Egyptian Postures of Power" & "The Yosef Codes," methods of personal healing and practice. As a channeller of universal and dimensional energies of healing, he combines these methods and modalities of energy medicine, shamanism, and dowsing to assist those on their own personal paths of healing and enlightenment.
Jason is considered a lifelong experiencer who has interacted with the multidimensional worlds. Since an early age he has been awakened to things that are outside the normal range of perception of just the physical world. He has had many out-of-body experiences and has encountered ghosts, aliens and other dimensional beings.
Jason is the creator of the website and Facebook page ‘ The Crystal Sun’ along with being the co-author of one our favorite books, ‘Forbidden Knowledge’, which we highly recommend!
https://thecrystalsun.com/
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- Duration:
- 1h 36m
- Broadcast on:
- 29 Jul 2024
- Audio Format:
- mp3
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To purchase the Amia radiation balancer, click here. Hey, welcome to Journey to Truth podcast tonight. We have Jason Quitt. In my eyes, he's best known as being an experiencer with an incredible story, but not just an experiencer. He's a channeler of universal and multidimensional healing energies, which he now teaches. He's also known for his books, Egyptian postures of power, the Yosef codes, and forbidden knowledge, which Aaron and I have both read. It's a fantastic book that kind of gives an overview of his life, as far as his experiences go. He's the creator of the website and Facebook pays the crystal sun, which I'm excited to hear about, actually, because I was just scrolling through it, and I'm kind of new to it. So I don't know much about your idea behind all of it. So I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. And welcome to the podcast. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for inviting me on. It's a pleasure to be here. Yeah, yeah. We've been looking forward to this one. Ever since I read your book, actually, because I had heard your name, but you hear all these names get thrown around in the community and stuff. And Aaron, he let me borrow the book at Iseti when we were down there. And I came home and read it immediately, and I flew through it. And it was actually so synchronicistic at the time for me. Just a lot of the stuff that you went through reminded me of some of the experiences I've had, but not to the extreme that years ago, but it really resonated with me, especially to part when you talked about Egyptian postures and that stuff. I've had a fascination with Egypt since I was a kid. So I actually haven't applied those postures and tried those poses, but I definitely want to look into that. So I don't know if you want to start off and just giving us a brief overview for people who made it or not know you. Sure. I would describe myself as a lifetime experiencer, which basically means my whole life. I've had experiences that are outside of the three-dimensional world. I would call the spiritual experiences that has to do with astral travel, pre-birth memories, past life memories. It has to do with, I would say, the paranormal being visited by spirits. I would say my whole life. And I really didn't think that I was different than anybody else. I thought everything that I was experiencing was completely normal. It did scare the crap out of me a lot, especially as a child. But when I would ask my parents specifically and say, this is what has been happening to me, they would just say it's a nightmare. So I thought that what I was experiencing is just something called a nightmare and everybody experiences these things. And I just continued on with my life. It wasn't until I was a little older, I would say about 11 years old, when I started to openly talk about these things. And that's when I found out that people didn't really understand what I was talking about. And this happened when I was, we call it elementary school here. I don't know what you call it in the States. But I went to a new school and I didn't have any friends. I didn't know anybody. And there was this person there that I became friends with. And when I became friends with this person, all these memories of us in a past life came back to me. And I was so excited to be with this person again in this life. And I started to really try to explain to this person, don't you remember who we were? And when you start a conversation like that, you kind of get an eyebrow raised. And I realized that maybe I saw the world a little differently. So basically, I've been going through this journey. You can call it the awakening process. I've been going through it my whole life. I'm still going through it. I really don't think there's an end to it. And I really did feel alone in it. I didn't really have anybody to talk about these experiences. So in 2014, 2015, I decided with the help of another author named Bob Mitchell to sit down and actually write down my experiences. It was a very therapeutic thing just to get it out of my head, which was very, very good to do. Because once I wrote the book, I felt like I didn't have to carry those stories anymore. I just got it out of my consciousness. And I put it out there. And I didn't think that we, I didn't think it would reach the level of people that it actually did. I thought it would just kind of stay in a small group in Toronto of a group of friends. But that book, I don't know, it just kind of flew all over the world and people really resonated with it. And now I have to tell my story to continually tell my story over and over again, which is, I guess it's my curse, but it's also a pleasure to do because I found that just by me expressing my stories about what has happened to me over my life, I found out that there are so many people just like me. And these experiences are actually more common than I thought. So it's an amazing experience to share these stories and actually get feedback from people that, like Tyler, you said that you've had these experiences and I've actually went and watched a previous show of yours when you were describing some of your experiences. And I knew exactly what you were talking about because this is a, I believe what we are all experiencing, all of us is actually a normal human experience. You know, what we call spiritual paranormal awakening experience, it's actually completely common and normal. What's not normal is the society we're living in and the kind of matrix that we've been put into where these things are kind of hidden from us. So the reason we called the book Forbidden Knowledge was just that. It's like, it seems like for some reason we're not allowed to talk about these subjects. And when we do talk about these subjects, 99% of the population will just kind of turn their heads away from you. Because they are programmed not to accept this information. That's a very deep rooted program. So with the internet with shows like yours, with getting on radio and TV and internet, we're reaching an audience of people that are hungry for this information because they're experiencing this too. And nobody in the mainstream media, no one in the world is really listening to them or taking them seriously. Yeah. And I agree with you 100%. But also, you know, you say it happens to everyone, but I think people like yourself, like for some reason, not special that I don't want to use the word special, but some people have more experiences. Are there, it might be in their contract to remember their experiences? So it does happen more to some people on at least their level of awareness. So I know like you even talked about like choosing your parents before you came here. Like, I don't think many people have that memory, if any, you know. So, you know, we reach unique in that way. Yeah. And I completely agree for some reason, it might be a contract or something that we've chosen to come into this world with. But it's almost like the reason I remember these things is because it's set up my life path in a certain way. Whereas somebody else may not have these experiences because they're not supposed to explore that avenue to keep them on the right path in life. And I've actually experienced this many times, and it's a very strange phenomenon. Basically, I'll start talking to somebody about these experiences or consciousness in general, or spiritual philosophies, and they'll fall asleep in front of me. And it's not because my voice is so soothing. Like literally, their subconscious shuts them down. I'm Victoria Cash. Thanks for calling the Lucky Land Hotline. If you feel like you do the same thing every day, press one. If you're ready to have some serious fun, for the chance to redeem some serious prizes, press two. We heard you loud and clear. So go to luckylandslots.com right now, and play over a hundred social casino style games for free. Get lucky today. And I've seen this happen multiple times. And I'm trying to figure out, well, why are these people just shutting down? And I realize the information that I might be expressing to them it may change or alter their path and their subconscious is actually defending that by just shutting down so they don't take in that information. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, it's just like we're so programmed that when information comes in, it's outside of that. Yeah, we shut down. I've been in the same scenario. People actually, their whole body language changes. They shift away from the person. They don't realize they're doing it. I don't think it's their own fault. I just think it's just this stupid ass matrix that we're a part of. Yeah, but again, it's like, you know, you give information is a very powerful thing. And if you give somebody information, even though it's positive information, it could alter and change their path in a negative way. You know, it's the same thing with, you know, drugs. You give the wrong person drugs, not saying I'm giving someone drugs. Just as an example, the wrong person drugs, they can become very addicted and ruin their lives with it. So the information has a certain power to it that we have to respect. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So I don't, like you said, you've told the story of a bunch. I don't want you to have to repeat anything. And a lot of people listening probably have heard you talk. Is there anything new? Any other experiences that have happened outside of this book are recently even that you would want to share? Sure. Sure. There's a very interesting moment that I had. This was about last year. And by the way, I have maybe experiences every month or couple months. It's not uncommon. But there was one experience that really stood out to me. And it was actually, I was on the, it was the day before I left Florida. And I usually have some pretty crazy experiences in Florida. And I'm pretty sure there's some very powerful energy down there. But I'm in a dream. And a lot of these experiences happen in the dream state. And this dream is so real, it's like this other matrix reality. And I catch myself in the dream, very lucid, just like I'm in the real world, I'm walking around in this dream. And I realize that I'm actually in a dream, but this is not a normal dream. It's too real. In fact, I felt like I was there. I wasn't in a dream. It was way too long. And I kind of stopped and I looked at a person in the dream that we were on the street, basically. And I knew that this was some type of matrix reality or projection. And I knew that there was some being here monitoring me. So in the dream, I went up to this person and I started to demand to know who it was. Why am I here in this dream reality? Because it's not my dream. It's like your consciousness is taken in place somewhere to experience this matrix reality for some reason. And it just looked like a normal person. It was wearing like a suit. It was wearing like a hat, not like a man in black, but just a normal guy. But I demanded to see its true form. And its human face went away. It was still wearing the suit and the hat, but it was like amphibious looking creature. It had really amazing eyes. The only thing I could tell you about the eyes was it looked like cat eyes or like crocodile eyes. They almost looked like jewels. They were very beautiful eyes and they had like green scales. And people would say, well, that's a reptilian, but no, this was very different. It was almost more like an amphibian type creature. And after I figured out that this thing was somehow controlling this matrix, it popped me out and I woke up. And when we did a channeling session after to try to tune in to check in to see what this being was, basically, we saw many of these beings sitting around these screens in outer space. And they could use this technology to literally experiment on us or create these types of matrix realities to test us or to teach us things. So I didn't really get any negative feeling from it. I just got more of a, there is some type of being out there that can actually pull our consciousness into a matrix type reality to, and I don't know for what means or ends, but they're definitely able to do this. Some type of experiment, most likely. Maybe. I always find it interesting that, and I don't know if this is like a personal ability of mine, but for some reason, when I'm in these states, I'm able to almost stop them and question the beings that are doing this to me. And they're always kind of shocked that they've been discovered or they can be seen. And it just stops everything in its tracks. And it's almost like, you know, you're in the in Star Trek in the holiday. And then suddenly you realize, I'm in the holiday. Why am I here? Who's doing it? And suddenly you have this confrontation with the intelligence that's doing this experiment. And I find it happens, something of that nature happens maybe at least once a year with some type of intelligence. That's interesting, because when I, I used to suffer from sleep paralysis, they're really bad. It was, it was ruining my life at the time. I had some type of attachment or something. I'm not really sure. But in my dreams, so I figured out how to stop it accidentally, I would I would always have a dream and some entity or some being would like infiltrate my dream. And I would see it in a distance. And it would just like get closer to me. And then as it finally got to me in the dream, I would, that's when I would wake up and complete paralysis. And it's the most horrific thing to possibly experience, if anybody has ever experienced it, especially when it's like full blown paralysis. But I realized that, you know, I started lucid dreaming to where you can kind of control your dreams and fast forward, rewind the other stuff. And I would see this thing infiltrating. And I would just be like, no, not this time. And I wake myself up. And I will wake myself up every time before it happened. And eventually it stopped. Because I could they couldn't fool me anymore. Because I knew I just knew the energy of that entity that was coming forward. So this reminded me of what you were talking about. Yeah. And, you know, I talk extensively on sleep paralysis also in the book. And now, because I've had these experiences, I'll say more than 500 times in my life, I can't even count them anymore. When your dream starts to be infiltrated, would you know it's not your dream? And there's some type of influence over it. I pop out of my body. And I see, I go, who's in the room with me? What intelligence, what being is here, trying to manipulate or influence my dreams, or my thoughts? And in the out of body experience, once you come out, that being is literally in the room with you. It's visible to see. So then it's like they're caught. They don't know what to do. They panic. And that's when you realize that you have a power that they don't have. And then you get very comfortable in that situation and very accustomed to seeing the difference between your dream and the influencer's dream. And then you can, like you said, you could take control of this. And I could only say from my experience that that's 100% of what's happening is for some reason, these beings, we can call the multi-dimensional beings, astral beings, entities, spirits, for some reason, they can tap into us through our dreams and our thoughts and show us images. And some of these images are not very nice. They could be trying to convince us that we're sick, we're dying, or they can take us and show us things that might scare us, like end-of-world events or underground bases and experiments. All these things I've seen and experienced, and I have to try to figure out, am I seeing through something that's actually occurring here on the planet? Or is this something that somebody's manipulating and playing with me? Yeah, I mean, it could either, I think it could be either, or depending on the circumstance, definitely. One time that happened to me when I was able to physically see the being in my room. And I've told this before on here, but they resemble, it was like a black silhouette, but I could like see the red veins, like it was like translucent, transparent, except they had a pumpkin head. And the only reason I could think that they had a pumpkin head is because I was terrified of that movie as a child, so I was trying to mimic what something that I knew I was afraid of. Yeah. And when I was a child, the only way I could describe the being that came into the room was, I would say, it looked like a scarecrow. You slept through your alarm, missed the train, and your breakfast sandwich. Cool. Sounds like you could use some luck. I'm Victoria Cash, and Lucky Land is where people go every day to get lucky. At Lucky Land, you can play over 100 casino-style games for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. Go to LuckyLandSlots.com and get lucky today. No purchase necessary, VGW Group, we're prohibited by law 18-plus terms and conditions apply. America. We are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. At Grand Canyon University, we believe in equal opportunity, and the American dream starts with purpose. To serve others in ways that promote human flourishing and create a ripple effect of transformation for generations to come, find your purpose at Grand Canyon University, private, Christian, affordable. Visit gcu.edu. Wow, that's interesting. It was just like a shadow silhouette, and if I really focused in on it, because you actually can't really see it, it just looks like a shadow with a mass. See how long I can describe it, but when you're really focused on, I really want to see what this being looks like. To me, it looked like almost like a dehydrated human. That's all I could say. It was almost like a mummified being, because what I saw, and the only thing I could describe it as, was a scarecrow as a child. Yeah, that's interesting. That's super interesting. So, let's just shift gears here a little bit. I know you're into the crystal healing, crystal energies, and all that stuff, and the Orelight 23, which I actually-- Everywhere. I was actually gifted a piece of that prior to me coming across your book, so I knew it was kind of synchronic. So I didn't know if you wanted to touch on that, actual particular crystal, and just your experience, because I have some questions about Arkansas also. Sure. I've always been drawn to crystals my whole life. I've always had a crystal collection, so for me, crystals have always been around me. Growing up, I really didn't think of anything special other than they were just really cool. They looked really good and put them in the bedroom. And then when I started to have my awakening experiences, I was basically being attacked for years on end. So I would just continually be attacked by entities, sleep paralysis, negative influences. And I was told that crystals were one way to protect you. So I had some crystals, but I didn't have a lot. So I started to really purchase a lot of crystals. And one of the crystals I really liked was the Arkansas crystals. And I started to just fill the room with a bunch of different crystals, and I felt not just crystals, crystals in Oregon. In fact, I was making Oregon a long time ago, I was making Oregon around 2004. 2003, 2004, I was making and selling Oregon. And I would place it around my bedroom. And I actually felt that the attacks lessened by a lot, like maybe around 70 to 80 percent, the attacks stopped. So I knew that having these crystals around me had some type of influence in the spiritual realm. And I started to go into the crystal business. So I got called down to Arkansas first, and I made friends with a person who owned a mine. And I just loaded up on Arkansas crystals, which are a very pure form of quartz, very high frequency. And my bedroom turned into almost like a crystal cave or a crystal museum. I had crystals on every single surface of my bedroom. I couldn't put a couple of water down on my night stand because there was too many crystals. And even under the bed, there was grids. I mean, literally, I lived in a crystal room. And the most amazing thing is I started to feel I didn't really have a sensation towards crystals. But it was when I put all these crystals in the room, that's when I started to feel their impact on my energy. In fact, like, let's say, for example, I was in downtown Toronto, which is, you know, like a city. And after a long day of being in the city, you feel like garbage. You feel like there's a tiredness in your eyes. You feel like there's a weight on your shoulders. And I walked into the bedroom. And as I walked in with these crystals, I literally could feel these things being pulled off my energy field. And I could feel being rejuvenated. And I realized that these crystals had some type of field around them that wouldn't allow those negative or chaotic frequencies from the city to enter this sacred space. So I knew that these crystals were almost like protecting me or cleansing me in their presence. And then years after that, I got into the ore, like crystals, which is also a quartz, but it's a very unique quartz. It's about two billion years old from the Canadian Shield. And it has 23 rare minerals inside this crystal, minerals and metals. And it comes from an area that was hit by a meteorite. So all those pieces of that metal from outer space is inside these crystals. And I started to meditate with these crystals. And I would have actual, I would say, multi-dimensional experiences where I would receive messages, I would receive visions when I first held that crystal. And I think I wrote about this and forbid in knowledge. But when I held that crystal for the first time, I fell asleep with it in my hand. And I was taken into this space. It looked like I was in outer space. And I could see this clay rope in front of me. And I'm looking at this clay rope. And the clay rope just twisted very fast. And as the rope twisted, the clay just exploded off in all directions. And there is this beautiful crystalline glowing, almost like a DNA strand rope underneath it. And when this thing broke and the pieces shattered all over the place, it felt like every cell in my body exploded at that same moment. And it shocked me. So I literally woke up from the experience with the crystal still in my hand. And I jumped out of bed. And I heard a voice very clearly in my mind. It said, be still, we are activating dormant DNA. And that was a pretty profound experience. And I knew that it was because I was holding and meditating with that crystal, for some reason that crystal allowed that experience to transpire. Wow, that's, that's awesome. I had, after reading your book, I decided to, I was traveling to Iowa. And I brought that crystal with me. And I decided to hold it in my left hand, my receiving hand for an hour straight, just a straight up hour while I was driving. And really, I didn't notice, I noticed maybe a little bit, but nothing. And I almost gave up a couple of times, I wanted to put it down, but I was like, no, I just hold on to it. And I switched hands. And when I switched hands, I could physically feel this crystal vibrating. It was so incredible. And what I noticed started to happen was like, my whole reality changed. And I was able to see like the, the aura of like the trees and like the light that was emanating off of them. And it was at one point, like it looked like the robe was like almost like vortexing. I was like, holy shit, I'm gonna crash if I don't put this crystal down. It was so amazing. And it was just, I knew the power of it after I did that. So I've definitely put it into play a little more now that I realize where it can do. Yeah. Yeah, no. And I continually stock up on crystals, continually meditate with them. And I've been teaching different methods of ancient shamanic healing methods using crystals, just by placing them on the body, holding them in different hands and breathing techniques with the crystal, it seems to open up the energy field, open up the energy meridians of the body to allow those experiences to happen. Yeah, that's incredible. And I agree with that, just from experience. So about the place in Arkansas, so I'm actually going on Sunday, I'm heading to Arkansas to go to board camp crystal mine. I don't know if you know where that one in particular is. But no, not that one. But it's like kind of like East City, if you know what you say, it's known for the UFO sightings, the Sasquatch, it's like something's going on there. You've been East City. Yeah, yeah, I've been to East City a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. And Arkansas is a very special place. Have you been there before? I've been there when I was a kid. I didn't, I was totally sleeping in the coma back then. So I didn't know, you know, there's, what I notice is when I'm driving down to Arkansas, you start to smell that sweetness in the air from those trees. There's like a very ancient smell. That's the only way to describe it going down to Arkansas for those forests there. And the energy there is so pristine. There's quartz and gold and minerals all over that state. And especially up around Mount Ida is where the really clear crystals come from. So it's a trip like especially around that Mount Ida area. So yeah, it's been many years since I've been there, but I definitely want to go back. And if I'm so before we were all talking just to the listeners, I was looking at my pen and I realized that the name of this pen is Atlantis. I didn't know this and I've had this pen for a while. And I know in your book, you talked about, I believe I read it in your book talking about Arkansas was an ancient Atlantean city, Crystal City at one point, or something along those lines. Is that correct? Yeah, so here's like, I don't know if we can see that there. This is from Arkansas here. And it just shows you the sandstone with the crystals growing out of it. That's amazing. And yeah, so many years ago, there were some channelers who were taking crystals from Brazil. And what they were saying is that these are Lemarian crystals, right? So there was a big fad in the 90s and early 2000s of everybody wanted to go down to Brazil to get these Lemarian crystals. And then people were really interested in what Arkansas had because it was still relatively untapped back in the 90s and 2000s. And when these crystals came out of the ground, they had these record keeper lines on these crystals, but they were a different consistency than Brazil. Brazil, it almost has like an orangey, yellowy sheen to the crystals. They're not like perfect glass clean crystals. But in Arkansas, the crystals are so pure, they just look like glass. They're so beautiful these crystals. So then the channeler started to say Arkansas is where the Atlantean crystals are. And Lemaria is the Lemarian crystals, or sorry, the Brazil is the Lemarian crystals. And they said that the Atlantean's back in the time of Atlantis would come to places like Arkansas to find these crystals. And they still believe that there's Atlantean crystals still buried from the times of Atlantis in Arkansas. And this is why it's such a paranormal spot where like you were saying, you can see Sasquatch UFOs have spiritual experiences because they say there's a huge Atlantean crystal still buried, still active in the Arkansas area. So I'm going to add to that because that's where I'm going. I'm going for a reason. I think I've told this story on the podcast before, but you'll find this interesting. A friend of mine, Margie Kay, she's an extremely well remote viewer. She's helped South like 57 different missing person cases and all kinds of stuff. She was invited down there and she remote viewed that this specific location before she went because they wouldn't wake up. They wake up in the morning out there and there'll be crystals just like lying on the surface of the ground and they don't know how they're getting there. So she decided to remote view it. And what she saw was a UFO come over and extracting crystals out of the ground, but not without disturbing the earth and bringing them up into their craft. And then she was able to remote view from inside the craft and she gathered that they're using these specific crystals as something like sawed after further technology, whatever it may be. And she said that the crystals that they weren't looking for, the ones that they weren't significant to them, they would just discard and set aside. And those are the ones that would be laying there every morning when they woke up. So there is something about those crystals in that area. That's interesting. You said that because in Brazil, the whole story with the Lemarian crystals is that they would go into these caves and they would find piles of these crystals that were just in sand. So it's like someone took them there and just buried them there or discarded them there. And there was no reason for them to be there. So they said these crystals were very special. And it sounds exactly like the same thing what you're describing. There are crystals like all over the place in Arkansas. If you walk through the forest, you may trip over one. So it's very interesting. And I'm just going to stand up for a second here. Sure. I can grab this. Wow. That is awesome. So this is Arkansas. And you can't find crystals like this. So it's, it does not, it just when you, when you really look at this, it just does not look real. No, it doesn't. That the earth can actually create this. And if you look at the bottom of it, they're double terminated. Wow. So this has no bottom. It's all points from the bottom to the top. Wow. So yeah, and just holding this, you know, it just feels like cold air is running through my body. Like that vibration of it is so pure. Yeah. And in fact, in Arkansas, the reason they started the mining Arkansas for these crystals is from World War I. Because these crystals are so pure that they use these crystals for the walkie-talkies and the communication devices in World War I. And that's why we know how special these crystals are. Wow. I do have some that are not that pristine, but my father went down there a few times and mine some of his own crystals and he has boxes of them. And they're pretty similar to that, but that one is unique. And he's given me some of them, but it's definitely. Yeah, I hope I only have one like that. That's a pretty special one. No, no, it was actually found in one of the mines in Arkansas. And the mine owner actually put it aside for himself. He wasn't going to sell this. He was like, this is too nice. And I developed a friendship with that person. And I bought a lot of stuff from him. And I said, I really love that piece. And he said he'd sell it to me. If I promise, I would never sell it to anybody else. Right. Good deal. That's fine. I would never sell that piece anyway. Yeah. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. It's the end one. Yeah. And then one more thing on crystals before we change subjects, I just remember you talking about how like you can communicate with them, that you can talk to them and actually essentially ask them for stuff. Like, like, I know you guys were lost and they helped you find your way. And it sounds crazy if you're saying it like that. But I didn't know if you wanted to elaborate on that a little more. Sure. Sure. Of course. There seems to be some type of intelligence to a crystal. In ancient thought, they believe that crystals had an intelligence or soul to them. They had a spirit that you can communicate with. I think that crystal is actually some type of an interface between the multi-dimensional world. As in, you could use a crystal to communicate with other beings in other realms. I really believe that. So what you're referring to is a story where we actually got lost and driving in the states. And we were around Cincinnati area, driving back from Arkansas to Toronto. And I've never been through Cincinnati. I don't know the area. And from what I saw with the window, it looked pretty rough. Like, I really didn't want to stop where I was driving. And basically, I said, I was having a conversation with my wife. And we said, you know, we need to find a place that's safe, that doesn't cost too much money. And it's near the cheesecake factory. My wife really wanted to eat at the cheesecake factory. So we had the whole car was filled with these crystals, like literally the trunk and the back seat. And that's why I said we need a safe place to rest because I'm leaving a car filled with crystals. I don't want anybody to break in. And I had my GPS on. And this is the weird thing. Well, also, my wife is psychic and she could see things as well. And she said, let's ask the crystals. And we asked the crystals for help. You know, could you help us find a safe place to sleep, find a good cost and the cheesecake factory? That was a joke. So she was joking. And she said she saw that the crystals would send these beams of light from our car to the driving cars next to us. It was almost like they were gathering information. And I have the GPS on. And we basically, it's, I don't want to say I blacked out, but I was driving for like 30, 40 minutes. And I look down at my GPS and I go, oh crap, I'm like, I'm not even on the right highway. How did I get here? Like, I was just on autopilot driving somewhere. And I couldn't understand where I was. So I freaked out. And I just got off on the next exit of the highway. And right when I got off, there was a very nice hotel. So I said, you know what, this place looks nice. Let's go in. And we go in and we say, you know, you know, we're Canadians, we're lost. We're looking for a good place to rest. And the manager was there. They're like, I'm Canadian. I'm going to give you a good deal out of this hotel. Nice. So it was like a half price hotel. It was a very nice hotel. They gave it was for half price. And then my wife says, I'm very hungry, where can I eat? And he goes, Oh, the cheesecake factory is right there. Wow. So we were like, we looked at each other and we're like, Oh my God, those crystals. It worked. It worked. But you know what, I'll tell you another story. There was this guy. He's not a believer in crystals, you know. And I was, I was talking to him about oral light. And he just didn't buy it. He's just, you know, these crystals, whatever. He came back to my booth the next day. And he's like, I can't get this crystal out of my mind. And it's that one. Like there was a specific crystal on the table. He couldn't get out of his mind. And he's like, he came back and he said, I want to buy this, but I don't understand why I can't get this crystal out of my mind. And I said, well, the crystal is calling you. Hello, it is Ryan. And we could all use an extra bright spot in our day, couldn't we? Just to make up for things like sitting in traffic, doing the dishes, counting your steps, you know, all the mundane stuff. That is why I'm such a big fan of Chumba Casino. Chumba Casino has all your favorite social casino style games that you can play for free anytime, anywhere with daily bonuses. So sign up now at Chumba Casino dot com. That's Chumba Casino dot com sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary, vgw group void. We're prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply. America, we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. By honoring your sacred vocation of nursing, you impact your family, your friends, and your community. At Grand Canyon University, our online RN to BSN, MSN, or DNP degree programs allow you to balance online coursework with local in-person clinical, practicum, or immersion hours. Find your purpose at GCU private Christian affordable visit GCU dot edu. No, it's for some reason, there's a resonance and it wants to go home with you. And this is not me being a salesman, this is me trying to explain why the person can't get a crystal out of his head when he doesn't believe in crystals. And he said, well, how do I use it? I said, you know, take the crystal home, ask it a question before bed, and then put it under your pillow and go to sleep, and you might get the answer in a dream, right? And the next day he came back to the show and he was so excited to tell me, he's like, Jay, I did exactly what you said, and I got the answer in the dream. I'm like, that's amazing. So you know, regardless of what people think, yes, it's just a pretty stone, it's a paperweight, you know, it's a wonder of the world, whatever people think of this stone or any stone, you know, try to tap into its power, try to tap into this subconscious, super conscious mind connection with these elements and see what happens. I mean, what can you lose? Yeah. And one thing interesting about crystals now, they're becoming so popular, there's a demand for them, people want them. And so I was reading an article about how crystals have become a multibillion dollar business, really. And so we heard about, you know, we know about blood diamonds, you know, the origin, essentially, like, like Shungite is a big one, there's, they're being mined in their harsh conditions. So we really have to watch out that it sucks is getting to that point, but we have to watch out with the energy that's coming along with some of these that you might find in, let's say, like a marshals or a department store, when they're getting, you know, knowing where the crystal came from is important. That's right. And there's something really interesting started to happen about 10, 15 years ago, is that when the mining industry got a lot of people looking into it, a lot of Chinese companies bought up a lot of mines all over the United States, and in Canada. I don't know if you know this, but even in Arkansas, a lot of Chinese companies have taken over those mining rights. Because in China, crystals are a huge thing. And it's a lot of money. If you go to anywhere in Asia, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, you know, a crystal like this, could be five times the value, just to buy it over there. So yes, you do have to mine it ethically. I'm very fortunate to have the experience of actually going down to the mines myself, being friends with the mine owners, for example, or late 23. That comes from Thunder Bay, Ontario. And I live in Ontario too, right? Yeah. So it's just him. It's one man and his son. And they they mind the oral light. It's like their family business. Yeah, that's awesome. And they literally pull it out with their hands. And depending on what they get each year, it sells out. Yeah, there you go. That's a beautiful piece. That's actually an emerald. I would call that an emerald or a light as it has the green in it. This was gifted to me. I went to Hawaii for cosmic waves and met somebody down there. And when I got back home, she actually mailed it to me as a gift. It was with with all kinds of paperwork explaining, you know, where it's from. And you know, it's all of its features. What am I worried about looking for? Yeah, but yeah, you know, metaphysical properties. But no, exactly. So my friend pulled that out of the ground with his hands. And now you're holding it. Wow. It doesn't. And the beautiful thing is, is that so he only goes to the mine a couple months out of the year, because in Thunder Bay, Ontario, there's already snow up there. All right, it's the mining season is extremely short. So right now, he actually lives down the street for me. And I'm going over there this week. So I'll put pictures on Facebook and Twitter that we get to wash the new stones that have come out of that mine. So I'm one of the first people in the world to actually see and hold these crystals before they hit any market or anybody else. So if there's very interesting pieces, I kind of put them in the Jason pile. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Okay, so before we wrap things up, I want to, I'm interested in your thoughts on what's happening with disclosure, you know, the current events that we're seeing and the awakening and everyone's going through right now. What's your opinion? What's your opinion on what's happening right now? Well, my opinion is we're definitely seeing a lot of information out there. I would say it's more accessible now because of the internet and more people are open to that information, especially after 9/11. So, you know, I've been kind of watching this whole community since basically 2004. So quite a while to see this. And I've seen them talking about the cabal, you know, since back then, I've seen them talking about human trafficking and, you know, Illuminati and all these really dark things. It's interesting now that that's a main focus online, especially on Facebook and Twitter and everybody's really talking about it. The problem that I see with disclosure is that I'm finding that it's more of an echo chamber, especially online. It's the same people talking the same language, the same things, and they're just talking to each other. It's not really getting out there in the mainstream. And I really have come to the conclusion that disclosure is actually very different depending on the person you ask. So people have many ideas of what disclosure is. And if it's going to come, I think a disclosure, it has to come, unfortunately, it has to come from government highest levels. It has to come from a president actually speaking the words of what has been hidden from the public, which is kind of a pipe dream, in my opinion. I don't think they'll ever do that unless they're absolutely forced into it. So I definitely see disclosure happening very, very slowly, because remember, the disclosure community is a very tiny bubble in this world. If you travel around the world, you'll realize very little people are actually talking about this. We think it's a very big thing because we're in those groups on Facebook or in those groups on Twitter, and we hear about it every single day, but you go out into the real world and you talk to 20 people, most of them will have no idea what you're talking about. So we have that, I guess. Are there a laugh at? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So we have to be very realistic. If we're talking about free energy, we'll use free energy as an example, because the disclosure movement wants the release of free energy technology. Well, our whole economy, the whole world is based off of oil at this point. The whole infrastructure of our world is built off of oil. There's millions and millions of cars on our streets, factories, natural gas. Everything is dependent on that infrastructure. So governments all around the world, they plan in advance. So they're setting up infrastructure to keep us on oil for so many years into the future. If you're going to bring in free energy technology, they would have to redo their infrastructure. They would have to change so much from the vehicles to the plants to the people. Think of all the people that repair cars, change the oil in cars, fix things. Those jobs would be destroyed. Most people in the world right now, the only thing they care about is having a good job and feeding their family. The retirement, a lot of people in the world, they don't even have a TV. They don't even have the internet yet. That's a huge number in population that does not even have clean water. So we have to meet those needs first of the greater human population. We can't just say, here's free energy. I don't remember exactly who said this, but it was a very smart man. I think I heard this from Grant Cameron. He was saying that right now, we have a limit to how much resources were allowed to take from our planet. And the reason we have a limit is because everything takes energy and fuel to extract the resources from our world. He says, if you gave us technology right now at our state of spiritual awareness, that's completely free. So there is no limit to how much energy we could spend for free. We would take the resources from the planet even faster. We would abuse it. You're making a lot of good points. And I was even thinking about flying cars. They have to drone out that you can actually pilot fly inside this drone. I'm thinking, okay, in order for something like that to become mainstream, we would have to wipe out the power grid. The power lines would be the big issue because they're everywhere. You couldn't even fly around because of the power lines itself. Like you said, the infrastructure just has to go. Exactly. That's a huge operation, but there's still developing infrastructure for the next 25, 30 years. So you have to think of that as well. And there's all these liability issues too. Think about it. Right now we have roads where you could drive your car. If there are no roads in your hover car, you can go in any direction, any height. People are still going to crash. People are going to fly intoxicated. It just opens up a whole other problem. Yeah, exactly. So I think the whole solution when it comes to disclosure is human consciousness. We have to kind of raise our consciousness to a spiritual level of understanding where that infrastructure will be brought into place because our awareness is already in that place. Right now it's like giving a machine gun to a baby. They're not going to know how to use it. They're just going to point and shoot. Whatever happens happens. So we really have to grow into disclosure. And I know there's groups of people that are fighting. They want disclosure right now. Tomorrow we want mass arrests. Tomorrow we want military tribunals and basically kill off the people that have been harming us or keeping the truth from us. I mean, that's a very, very extreme view in my opinion. We really need a plan to set up an infrastructure, to set up a real way to incorporate these disclosures into our daily life. They can't just pop into existence. And that's my opinion. I think it would do more damage to pop into our existence than to ease into it. And I've heard rumors and obviously these are just rumors that they already have free energy cars. They already have free energy things that they've been using. And obviously the military has these things. But like one of the reasons why Elon Musk has Tesla and the electric car is yes, it's old technology, right? But they have to introduce the electric car before they could introduce free energy, right? So they have to set up that infrastructure, get people used to being on an electrical grid and then do that. Just like they can't give us the best possible cell phone technology. We have to slowly be Oh, don't get me started on cell phones. Yeah, that that is the future. People are afraid of getting chipped. Man, we're worse than getting chipped. We have cell phones. Yeah, I'm right. Yeah, I'm well aware. Yeah, it's a big, it's a big deal. But what I was saying is, you know, the technology so far past what we're using, like the smart glass pads, I don't know if you've heard about it. Yeah, yeah, like that's totally capable, but they're not going to make any money if they just give us the best product. They have to slowly advance to it, you know, exactly. And then change the charging port every time say to buy a new charger. Yeah, right. So, you know, these things sound tedious. Like I love technology. I'm a technology person. I have cameras and musical equipment and computers. And I'm always looking for that next jump in technology. So, of course, I'm waiting for all these things to happen. But we have to all catch up. We really have to catch up. I mean, right now they have 8K cameras you can buy. But your computers can't really run them. It takes up too much memory. So, it's like you could have these really amazing toys, but you have to be practical in the infrastructure set up to maintain that thing. So, you could actually put an 8K video on YouTube and it's going to stream properly. So, they do that on purpose, you know, they when you phone updates, it's the update doesn't support the operating system the phone was designed for. So, as your phone updates, every time it gets slower and slower and eventually shit, I need a new phone. And this is by design. I had this old computer for my 2010 that I brought in the Best Buy and the guy couldn't believe that it was still working. And I said, I've been denying the updates for years now. Like the one he had when we started. Yeah. And finally, shot crafts, but like he couldn't believe it was still doing what he was doing. I said, because I don't update it. And I explained that theory to him. And he was like, oh, like he had never thought about it. No, you're absolutely correct. In fact, there's a story from the 70s. I'm going to have to look it up for you to get the exact name. But car in the United States, that's so perfect that it's a perfectly designed car engine. And it was on the market for a little. And they realized that they had to take it off the market immediately because it didn't support the infrastructure. People wouldn't get oil changes. People wouldn't take it into the shop to get fixed in parts. So you'll notice if you drive a car, literally if that part of the engine says it's going to last 30,000 miles, right at 30,000 miles, that part is going to fail. It's like they've designed them so perfectly that they know exactly when you have to come back into the shop to pay more money to fix it. No, yeah, it's like a science. We've all experienced that. I mean, there's no question that they're screwing everybody, really. What's funny about car parts is like a guy at work was telling me, he's like, you know, I drive a $200,000 truck. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, if you do the math from what each car part costs, individually, if you bought it from the store, you're driving a $200,000 vehicle. It's funny how much all that's marked up. Exactly. So when it comes to disclosure, obviously, I'm a huge supporter. Love disclosure. I love the people that are pushing the boundaries and trying to get information out there. There's a lot of fear involved with disclosure. And again, it's like, what is real disclosure? If the government comes out and says, yes, there's UFOs and there's grays and reptilians or whatever beings they present, is that a fantasy version they've created for the public? Or is that actual real disclosure? So again, we're stuck in that matrix illusion to believe what these authority figures are telling us. And why would we expect these authority figures to tell us the truth if they're the ones lying to us since the beginning? So it's a really crazy game to get into this disclosure stuff because it's like almost every door you open leads to the same conclusion. They're in charge and they're pulling the strings, and they're actually giving the flow of information, yet we need them to tell us outright. And what we know this is, as soon as you do think you're making the headway, all of a sudden you run into that pushback. If you're trying to promote about harmful vaccines, they just go above and beyond and you get this pushback that just makes you lose motivation. Well, look at like to the Stars Academy, they put out information of actual military capturing UFOs on film and documenting it. So it's a real case of something unidentified. We don't know the full story of it, obviously. But now you have them admitting that there is something unusual about these objects, but the people at TIA at to the Stars Academy are all CIA. They're all Department of Defense and ex contractors from the military. And now they're even publicly stating that they're working with the US Army on these menimaterials. So again, it's like, these are the people that are keeping the truth from us. And now they're going to tell us the truth. It doesn't make any sense. And what really bothers me about that is they're collecting money. They're, you know, they're collecting money from all these innocent people who think they're like supporting the good cause and they're buying stock in the TTSA. And they're turning disclosure into a business. And they're disclosing information that is decades, if not older, you know, that's right. And it's just a big, it's a big joke. You know, it's laughable. And time to long, you know, I hate to say, but the term useful idiot comes to mind, you know, it's either he knows, he either he knows he's being fed this false information, or he really believes that what they're telling him is like the top notch, top secret stuff. And he thinks he's like special or something. Right. So again, yes, this is part of disclosure, even though it could be an intelligence operation, because they're putting this thought into the mass consciousness that UFOs are real. So even though it's, you know, may not be truthful, what they're trying to present, they're still getting it out in the mass consciousness, which I think is a positive thing. The problem that I find is that their angle is that the UFOs are a threat. And we need better weapons, better technology embed and a better military infrastructure. 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And it's all on space based weapons. And there are, and this is what I think the secret space program actually is, it's the militarization of space. I mean, that's actually no secret whatsoever. And it's been going on for a while. It's just not public knowledge. But you have to think, are the satellite weapons pointed out into outer space? Or are they pointed down to the planet Earth? And that's the question we have to ask ourselves. Yeah. I mean, who knows? Who knows, honestly. What do you think? I think there could be both. Yeah, actually, it's a bad lead up when I actually think it's both two. But no, I really think that the whole thing is the militarization of space and total control of the planet. And I think that's the ultimate goal of the New World Order, if you want to call them that or the elite powers. And that's where I think we are right now in disclosure is finding out that we have this infrastructure in space. Yeah. Aaron, you've been quiet over there the whole time you've been here. Add to that? Yeah, I mean, I agree with most of what you said for sure. The thing that I want to add is there's also the ascension going on. It's not just disclosure. And to me, that's the real disclosure is what some would term the ascension or, you know, Earth is ascending. Gaia is ascending. And we're here. So we're kind of going along with the planet. And that's naturally going to cause disclosure because it's going to raise. I mean, the energies are increasing and it's basically pushing everything up to the surface, forcing everyone to deal with their crap. And people that are more negatively oriented are having a hard time with it because they're kind of resistant to these energies. And people that are more positively oriented are kind of awakening, so to speak, and kind of having an easier time. And people are having more experiences or having crazy dreams or feeling this energy. I know I am for sure. And then you have, you know, talk of the solar flash, apparently, possibly coming up soon. Who knows? And the interesting thing about that, like, we're good talks about it a lot and others. And it's, at first, people kind of thought it was like going to be this earth ending event and, you know, like devastating kind of event. But really, it's kind of we realize we think it's more of like, it's going to affect our consciousness. So like the sun, it's a natural cycle. And the sun's going to do this thing that is going to naturally just affect our consciousness and our DNA and upgrade our DNA. And that will kind of naturally cause us because like you before you're talking about, we're not ready right now for the kind of disclosure we think we need, because the vast majority of the planet is like spiritual children that can't handle it, right? And we'll just kill ourselves and destroy the planet, which I totally agree with that. I 100% agree with that. But I think we're coming up soon to a place where we're going to be forced to, or, you know, forced, we're going to naturally have our consciousness raised. And then we're going to be like, Oh, crap, like, we need to fix this place, we need to do things differently. And we're going to suddenly become aware of so much more than we are now, you know, and yeah, well put, well put, I know I'm very happy that you stated what you stated, very happy, because we are going through some type of shift. And you have to remember our minds, our electromagnetic fields of our minds are tapped into the planet, tapped into the geomagnetic field of the earth. And the solar winds, which you're talking about, definitely affects our mind and our consciousness. So many people will have spiritual experiences or change the way they think or see during times of let's say a solar event. So I remember, let's say a solar flare, it was very strong that that lit up the ionosphere. That night, it was amazing dreams and information out of body experiences. So the solar energy hitting the geomagnetic fields of the earth affect our consciousness and mind. That's what I believe. And there is this type of ascension going on, but my definition of ascension is the awareness, which is what you said, it's the awareness of tapping into things outside of the three-dimensional world. And as we tap into these multi-dimensional areas, we get insight of who we are, where we're going, what we're doing on the planet. And it's an instant, I call it a cosmic slap in the face, because you realize that you need to change. So yes, I really hope that many people get the cosmic slap and wake up so that we can move these things forward in a much faster way. So I totally agree with it and not sense. Yeah, I think everybody is ascending as far even the people, the lowest vibrational humans in the program. When this energy comes in, at some level, they're upgrading your DNAs, being activated. They'll have no idea what's happening. But it's just on a different level. They might start dieting a little different, for some reason. So it's happening on all levels. It just depends on where you stand. But just remember, this type of, and I'll call it a narrative, this narrative has been around for a very long time. And if you remember 2012, I don't know, were you guys in the community around 2012? That was my initial awakening and my initial venture into this 2012, actually. Because leading up to 2012, many authors came forward, many channelers came forward and say, exactly the same thing that's being said now about the cosmic event, the cosmic solar flare, the cosmic awakening of consciousness. And most people were writing books, basically saying that when this event happens in 2012, we will be instantly ascended into another dimension. We would literally just wake up one day and the world is gone and we're somewhere else, but it's that higher consciousness world. And obviously, 2012 came and went. And that's actually not the first time that that type of narrative or talk was in here. It even goes back to 2000 with Y2K. It was the same thing. People were talking about the end and this whole great awakening. So, this has happened and this is why I hate putting dates on things. If you remember in the book, I talk about even the red sky and everything is destroyed on the planet. You get to see these end time scenarios play out, but I was never, ever given a date. It's just something I had to think. My personal opinion is I thought that would happen around 2012. And when it didn't happen, I thought, 2018, because you're given these visions and these messages from spirit. And it's very, very confusing because, yes, it's science, 100% an extreme solar flare could come and wipe us out tomorrow. I mean, it's happened in the past before. We're not saying anything crazy. This is real. We should be aware that these things can happen and they have happened. How will it affect the human race? We don't know. So, there's a lot of questions still about the awakening process, the solar events. But remember, there's also a 12-year, 11-12-year cycle of solar maximums. So, we're coming into that in a couple of years again. Yeah. So, right at the end of solar minimum, yeah. Yeah, I remember people taking advantage. A lot of people just take advantage of that narrative tier to make money. I remember seeing that play out. I remember this guy was selling t-shirts. He was supposed to jump off of this cliff. And on 21st and into this portal that was supposed to open at this specific time and he was going to have camera crews there and everything. He was going to jump off this cliff and hope that the portal caught him. Wow. But remember what that gentleman said is that he said beings from another world basically told him that if he didn't jump through that portal at the exact moment, he would be responsible for the destruction of the earth. I didn't know that. You know who I'm talking about. Yeah, I do. But think of that mentality. Think of these beings messing with that person. Yeah. You know, screw those guys. It could be voice of God technology. I mean, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. So, yeah, there's a lot of things like that. And I remember I was on a radio show in 2011. And everybody was talking about 2012 and they asked me, "So, Jason, what's going to happen 2012? Are we going to ascend? Are we going to go to another dimension? What's going to happen?" And I basically answered. I said, "There is nothing that's going to happen on 2012. It'll be just like another day." And I lost a lot of people that liked me because people wanted to hear. They wanted to hear some other voice saying, "Yes, sell all your things, you know, go have some fun because tomorrow you're going to be ascended." I mean, that's completely irresponsible. Yeah. I agree. And I remember very specifically Georgio Succulos saying the same exact thing. He was on Joe Rogan's podcast and Joe Rogan asked him. He said, "Absolutely nothing, Joe." He's like, "Nothing is going to happen." And it was like at the time, like, I was one of those people. I wanted to hear him say like he thought something was going to happen. And I understand why people might, you might have lost some followers or whatever. Because I wasn't, I was still in the early stages of just like discovering information. I hadn't even begun my awakening. But, yeah. So, you just said the most perfect thing is that when a person starts to awaken and they receive all this amazing information, dude, we want to believe this. I mean, we have this hope inside of us that there is something going on that's amazing that's going to happen to the planet. And when you put all your eggs in that basket and it doesn't happen, it crushes you. And you have to like rebuild. I remember we had these spiritual and health shows in Canada here. And they were extremely popular because everybody was getting into this 2012 thing. These shows were so busy. Like 10 plus thousand people would walk through these aisles at these shows. Like, you couldn't walk through the aisles and that's how many people were there. And everybody was getting so excited to this big event coming. And they're getting into crystals and spiritual information, yoga, Reiki. And 2013, when it didn't happen, the same shows, they lost like 50 to 60% of their audience. It's like the shows were dead in 2013. And then they continued to die up until now. I mean, business just fell because everybody had put their hope and dreams into something happening. And I really hope that we don't do that again. We don't get that hope up. We have to be very realistic and understand that there is a process happening. It may not be the process that we're talking about, but it will get us to where we need to go. Yeah. And that kind of reveals a level of consciousness where those people are at and where so many people on the planet are at, that they want someone else to save them. They don't want to do the work themselves. They don't want to be completely responsible for themselves. Ultimately, these are what it comes down to. It's like, it's like they want to save you or they want they want to look to some event to save them from all their problems. You took the words out of my mouth. Literally, that is the most important message I ever received from my out of body experiences. And it was a very hard message to hear. It was, you're 100% responsible for your destiny. Nobody is coming to save you. There will be assistance and help, but you have to walk that path. It's an individual experience of awakening and enlightenment. And we choose to walk, we may be initiated into it from some type of an event. Many people are initiated into it from trauma. A lot of people have near-death experiences, and suddenly they're completely changed. Go down that path of awakening. So I say it's an individual process. We are responsible, and we are our own saviors. And I know that's hard for a lot of people to hear, but that's just what I was told. And it resonated with me. Yeah. And a good first step to practice is practice non-attachment. No emotional attachment to this information, because that's what happens. You get crushed. And so, anybody listening who might be at that level, just don't attach yourself to all these theories and everything. Just, you know, you got to really find what's true to you and just focus on yourself, because otherwise you will be let down. I'll say one really funny story, because you could all look this up. I'll try to find it. But I was on coast to coast with George Norrie. And this was years ago. I think this was like 2015 or 2016. And I was the second guest on, and the guest before me was the Planet X guy. And basically, the whole show, he was basically saying, when March comes along, Planet X is going to be here, and we're all going to die. We only have a couple more months left to live. So buy my set of DVDs at $650. And that's great. And I had to go on after this guy. And I'm thinking, man, if I had like two months left to live, you think I'm going to spend $600 on your DVDs and wait my time watching it? No, I'm going to go out with a bang, right? Yeah, no kidding. That's that's actually a great point there. There's not very well thought out. You're we're all going to die three months. Five, I do. It's the funniest thing, like, how can you say this to people? Even if one person bought that set for that money, I mean, he's doing good. I guarantee you that hundreds of people bought that DVD, because fear sells, unfortunately. Yeah, fear sells for your controls. I was we're going to start wrapping this up. Sure. Is there anything any events or news or anything coming up that you want to tell us about? I am going to be speaking down in Florida on the weekend of January 11th in Orlando. I will put some I'll give you some links so you can put it up if you'd like. Yeah, but I'm doing the same things. I'm going to be going to contact in the desert coming up 2020. And I'm also going to be doing another conference up in Arizona in June as well and disclosure fest 2020 LA. So there's going to be a lot of cool events coming up. Awesome, awesome. We'll keep an eye out for that. Make sure if you're listening, check out his website and Facebook page to Crystal Sun, which we never did talk about. But it's okay. It was an awesome conversation anyway. So thanks for coming on. This was totally awesome. We touched on a lot of stuff and I was really, really excited to hear what you had to say about a lot of it. No, thank you for inviting me. And we actually talked about exactly what we should be talking about. So yeah, I would I could sit down and ask you a million more questions about your experiences, but maybe another time. Absolutely. No, it'll be fun. Yeah, definitely. All right. Well, thanks for listening everybody. Make sure you like and subscribe. Check us out on Spotify, SoundCloud, iTunes. We just finally got on to Twitter. So follow us on Twitter, Instagram's coming, merch is coming. So stay tuned. And thank you for listening. Good night. Good night. Bye. Yo, what's up? Don't use that part. Jeremy, the truth is brought to you. Bye. Bye. Yo, what's up? Jeremy, the truth park. Let me think about this. Sleep quality and more. Don't add that part. Edit that part. To purchase the Amia radiation balancer, click here. 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