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Ep. 21 - Ed Spina

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Edwin Harkness Spina is an award winning author, speaker and mystic. He is the author of ‘Mystic Warrior’ and ‘Mystic Secrets Revealed’, and the developer of ‘Energy Center Clearing’ and ‘Higher Self Integration’, a methodology created to align, balance and center individuals moving through these tumultuous times. He specializes in connecting people to their higher selves, leading to greater intuition, clarity and joy.
Ed was also in attendance at ECETI last weekend. We shared our experiences and delving into some of the current happenings around the world, along with much more!
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Duration:: 1h 31m
Broadcast on:: 28 Jul 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

[MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] >> Yo, welcome to Journey to Truth's Podcast. Tonight we have on Edwin Spina, his award winning author speaker and a mystic, which we'll let you tell us about here in just a minute. He's the author of Mystic Warrior and Mystic Secrets Revealed, and developer of Energy Center Clearing and Higher Self-Inigration. Most of all, he specializes in connecting people that are higher selves, basically leading him to a path of happiness and joy. We're going to let Ed take over from here and tell us a little bit about that, and what exactly a mystic is and what you do, how you got into all of it. >> Okay. Well, mysticism is a spiritual discipline, aimed at direct communicating with the ultimate reality of God. So it's not merely an intellectual exercise, but it's an experiential thing where you actually feel and connect with these higher powers, and mystics perform different exercises to help meditation and being in the primary one to help connect with that. One aspect that I do is I do a lot of energy clearing, so I help other people get rid of all the junk that's preventing them from connecting with higher aspects of themselves and ultimately the highest reality. So that's what I do, that's my primary occupation now, I'm an energy healer, and I help people connect with their higher selves. >> Okay. So how did you learn that you had disability? How did you develop? >> Right. Well, I wasn't born with disability or that, I didn't know I had any of these abilities. I was a kid that was very good in science and math. I went to college, I was a scientist. I was a study mathematics, I went to work for a computer company, I did studies and like that, I went and got a business degree at the University of Chicago and MBA. I worked in the venture capital business, I decided that wasn't fast-paced enough, I needed to be an entrepreneur, and so I became an entrepreneur and had all sorts of problems. Then someone said, "Go see this woman, she may be able to help you." So I go to see her and it was as if I met someone that I knew, even though I had never seen her before. She took me under her wing, she could read me very clearly, she was an advanced mystic and basically told me things about myself that I barely knew. My parents would know, no one would know, but she knew. So I was of course fascinated and in a few short months, most of my contact with her was telepathic. I would sit on a couch or a recliner, I'm an envisioner, I sometimes I would feel a tingling in my third eye on the forehead here. So I would sit on a couch and communicate with her as clearly as we're talking right now, that would be my connection with her. I would ask her questions and she said, "Okay, do you need to call me on the phone or anything?" "Nope, you answered all my questions, I got it." "Okay, contact me again tomorrow." So that was something that my scientific mind didn't have any idea was even possible, but very well, it's the way the world operates. At the very highest levels, people have these abilities and or they have sometimes some technology tools that help them to do this kind of stuff. So you actually have experience and true telepathy. I've only heard. So it's just as clear as day, it's as loud as sounding right now. Well, it varies with the person you're connecting with. You know, one of the reasons I think more people don't experience this is because most people don't even know what they're thinking. It's, I mean, if you ask them, you know, "What's why you upset?" "What do you mean? I'm not upset. Yeah, your whole mood changed." "No, no, I'm fine. They don't even know what they're thinking." But if that's the unexamined life is not worth living, if they recognize me in a second, I don't feel that. What was I just thinking? "Oh, I was thinking about my ex-girlfriend when she broke up with me or whatever happens." And then, "Okay, now you can narrow it down and now, you know, what the situation is." So most people just aren't aware of what their thoughts are. But it's also like a like in tennis. If you play with someone who's a real great pro, you can make you look great. You can hit the ball and everything's easy. But if you play with someone who's smacking the ball over the court and it doesn't go anywhere near the court, everyone's going to look disjointed and not professional. So I got to talk with someone who's a real master and that's, you know, opened me up to that. But those are the same kind of skills that you need in order to clear someone out energetically. You've got to be able to tune in, basically, when I'm doing my work, I just put my earbuds in, close my eyes, get back in a recliner, and I go through the person's, all their energy bodies and systematically go through everything. And that's the same kind of muscle to be able to tune in and feel what they're feeling. And sometimes, you know, I hear the voices, they have children. I said, "Oh, this kid's only two, but this kid knows what's going on." And in fact, this kid's wondering what kind of crazy planet that I incarnate into. I need to know, just relax, kid. Once you learn how to be a human, your gifts will come through and everything will be fine. So I have that quite a bit. Yeah, that's true. I'm actually in the middle of reading a book right now that Aaron let me borrow. It's a Jason Quitt book. And at the very beginning, he talks about remembering, choosing his parents before he came here. And so when he was old enough to talk, he would ask his mom, "Aren't you happy I chose you? Aren't you happy I chose you?" And she would be like, "Oh, yeah, yeah." But she had been married, yeah. She thought he was just being a cute kid. Yeah, exactly. Extremely fascinated story. I'm only about a quarter of the way through it, but I just started. Yeah, so thanks again for coming on. Last weekend, we all three of us were at East SETI up there in Trout Lake, Washington with James Golan. Aaron has a T-shirt on. So I figured we can utilize this time to kind of talk about some of our experiences we had there. Because I don't know anybody that didn't have some type of personal, profound transformation. I mean, it seems like we all went there for some type of integrating, some type of growing. So did you have anything that stood out in your mind that happened while you were down there? Well, my initial reaction was my buddy Darius, who was interviewed me on his radio show. He said, "Hey, I'm going to be over at East SETI. Why don't you come up here? I've got a cabin." So, "Okay, that sounds good." And took me three minutes, I booked the ticket, and I was up there making plans that we hooked up. And so, I had a great time hanging out with him, but all the people that were around there, when Aaron was walking around with his Q-shirt, or, well, I didn't know it was he with the Q-shirt. Yeah, I had the Q-shirt, Tyler. All right, and Tyler was the one with the Q-shirt, and when I made the Wisetrack, "Hey, what's that Q-thing?" And they were getting all serious. "Oh, this number's in my forehead. I got to explain everything to him." I was only kidding, only kidding. I know who Q is. Yeah, I know all about that. No problem. So, I enjoyed interacting with the people. You know, the speakers were very interesting. I think the most interesting thing that happened to all of them was when Peter Slattery did his slideshow, and right near the end of it, he said, "Hey, these big red rocks in the middle of Australia, the Aborigines means the original inhabitants of Earth." He said, "They know all about the red rocks. They live near them." "But the red rocks," he said, "were seeded from the Pleiades. They sent them to Terraform our planet and turned into a planet that we could eventually have life forms where these more advanced souls could incarnate." And that just made me want to book a trip to Australia to go see those rocks in person. That was the greatest thing, the single greatest things. I have to get over to Australia now. Well, let me know when you're going. I had a friend who lived with the Aborigines. He's like an old hippie that hung out in New York with the Andy Warhol people, and he had the most eclectic background, but he went to Australia and hung out with Aborigines, and he said he could walk up some of those rocks, and I don't know if he was exaggerating, but it was almost like the rock had his own gravity, and he could walk up almost like a spider or something, just be able to stay on the rock. It was so great. And so I didn't know if he was exaggerating. I didn't push him. But when Peter said that, I got to get over there. Go walk straight up a rock straight through. Yeah, that's incredible. Hey, Ann, can you turn your valium up just a little bit? For some reason, you're a little quiet all of a sudden. Yeah, yeah. That's better. Or maybe you're just far away from your mic, I don't know. Is that better? A little bit. How does he sound to you? Yeah, I can hear you clearly. Yeah, you're good. Okay, sweet. Yeah, that sounds incredible. How about you, Ann? What was your take in the whole weekend? Oh, man, it was just amazing all around. I mean, he said he itself is just a magical, amazing place. You know, like the energy there alone, as soon as I got there, I could feel it. It's just amazing energy, right? I second what Ben said on Edge of Wonder on their live. He said, it feels really clean and pure, like the energy there. That's the first thought that went in my mind when I got there. I was like, it feels really like clean pure. That's exactly what I thought. And it does. And it's just like a sacred space, you know? And yeah, just meeting all the people and then seeing friends that I haven't seen in a while from the last conference I went to or whatever was so great. And then just meeting new people and just getting to hang out with so many amazing people. And this community, I mean, that's the reason I go to these things, you know, is to hang out with people and to reconnect with the family. You know, it's like the soul family. And we connect with nature. And with nature, yeah, it's a beautiful area. You know, it's like, it's like everything I want all in one. Amazing people, beautiful nature, you know, talking about all the stuff I want to talk about, you know, ET's spirituality disclosure, blah, blah, blah. And then I, you know, I even saw, you know, I did the sky watches pretty much every night. And then, you know, I saw all the light chips and everything else. And that was amazing. And I saw some orbs. I mean, yeah, I meditated the first day I got there. And that was like one of the best meditation sessions I've ever had. Yeah, wow. What I know phenomenal around is just so amazing. What I noticed about meditating there is it seemed like as soon as you close your eyes, you're like, bam, you were into the meditation. Or at least for me, it was, I didn't take time to calm my mind and do all the practices. It was just almost instantaneous. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Exactly. Yep. And one of my favorite things was the Corey said, Corey Good. One of the first things he said was he couldn't believe that this land had not been taken over by the government or the military. He says that any type of land that has this type of history, vortex, potential underground city, they is usually just, you know, swelled up by the government. And they build it on the ground base there or turn it into a national park or something. Oh, yeah. Something to keep people out of there, especially at night. So he was just, it was a miracle that this place even existed, which I think is fascinating. We have to get James, James on to talk a little more. Yeah. And well, from what I've heard, is that they've tried many times. Like it's, it's not like they haven't tried, you know, like, they, they've definitely tried to get control of that place. And, and the fact that they haven't been able to is a testament to, to me, that it's being protected for sure. Like it's definitely being protected. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. What's your take on that? Ed, as far as being protected, do you have any insight or any insight on, you know, yeah, I would be active. Yeah. Yeah. I can't tell why it would be protected, but obviously it was. I mean, I think someone made the joke that the Bigfoot that hang around there, help to protect it. But I think the higher beings can, can keep the riffraff out if they really want to. And I know from personal experience, if you can project enough love to someone, if they're evil, they don't want to be near you. It's, it's, it's like the member of the Wizard of Oz, when, when the witch got doused with water and she said, I'm melting, I'm melting. What's almost the same thing? You think, oh, love, what could possibly go wrong with that? Well, those negative beings, when they get doused with enough love, they, they run for the hills. They ride in the ground as it's like torturous. You know? So they could do the same thing there. And, and I echo what Aaron was saying, when you go there, you don't have all that electronic interference and all the discordant energies that are typically in a big city with, with all the strife and hardship. It's, you're just in a beautiful, pure pristine nature environment. And, you know, I love that as well. That's nothing better to connect with your higher self than being in an environment like that. Yeah, I actually liked the fact that no one had internet or self service out there because it forced you to put your phone away. Yeah, everyone's on their phone all the time because you don't have service. But it was kind of, it was nice. It was the whole experience was amazing. I, I agree with both what you guys said. It's, it was really, it was transformational for me. A lot, you know, a lot happened inside. I felt like it came back. It's a, it's just a whole new energy about myself. I felt that too. Definitely, yeah. But I say that about every conference I go to. I didn't do it, but this one, this one, this one, it was up there with EOD for me, which was the conference I ever went to. Yeah. Also in beautiful area in Mount Shasta, close to Mount Shasta. Yeah. So while we were down there, some earthquakes happened in California. I, I don't know if you guys read or followed David Wilcock and, and read his update, his article, he, he added a 2000 word update to his most recent article. And he dove into what he, he thought potentially was going on with these earthquakes. I don't know if either of you guys had any, any, any knowledge or insight on, on what was the cause of those? I, well, I think I don't think it was a natural occurrence. That's, I think of the initial, yeah, the initial one was from the dark side. They were trying to send a warning to the white hats that if you disclose all the stuff, which is about to go, we're going to just escalate this and we'll make sure the next earthquakes in the, in a more populated area. And I think the white hats may have then said, okay, here, take this. And then they went and, and uh, retaliated and wiped out some of the ability to create the first Earth series of earthquakes. So there's definitely a battle going on. It's not merely on Earth, but it happened in the spiritual realms as well, which is where I'm very familiar with. And what I tell people, especially those who are not familiar with, with the kind of work, everything that happens in the higher realms will eventually manifest in the lower realms. And I have the very upbeat. I'm known from being very upbeat about the potential for humanity and the upliftment of all humanity, because I already see what's going on on the higher realms. And those realms are almost totally cleared out of the negative beings that have been enslaving our planet for centuries. So I know it's not that I'm especially psychic. There's other people that are as psychic or better, but they don't necessarily spend eight hours a day on those realms, healing people and clearing them and looking and seeing what's about. So the future of our whole planet and the humanity is very, is very positive. Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think it was, I think it was an attack, uh, and as far as the future, if humanity being positive, I think, you know, everything that's going on right now in the world, Epstein being arrested, all the, I mean, every day we're hearing something come forward about somebody getting arrested, somebody stepping down, you know, this, just drug ring is busted. This ship was, uh, you know, confiscated because they had so how many pounds of cocaine on it or whatever, you know, it's all just crashing down right now. And it's just a natural cycle of the energies coming in. Yeah, at the conference there, when they announced Epstein got arrested and almost everyone in the crowd started cheering wildly. I said, this, these people are awake and they will, they understand what that means. This is the first step. This is awesome news. And they got it. There weren't any, uh, you know, deadweights. They are really trying to pull the energy down. Everyone was upbeat, especially when that announcement came through. Oh man, I, that and I actually read Michael Salah's article that he, uh, he, he just released about the Epstein arrest and, uh, how it ties in with everything. That's what Michael Salah does. You know, he ties in everything and just make the picture. While I was reading the article, I kept experiencing chills throughout my whole body, like five or six different times. It was, it was almost as if, you know, we always read about this shift happening and we see, we know about it and we talk about it, but it was like, as if I can feel it actually, I can feel the shift occurring. Like finally, that was like the big catalyst that needed to happen. Uh, and then some of the details with the, in that article was just horrible. I mean, some of the stuff that went on in that island, it's just so, it's such a good thing. You know, it's, it's one of the difficulties that the reason people have trouble understanding what's going on is they just don't believe that humans can be as evil as some of these, these evil satanic humans are. And I know back, it was in 1996, it was quite a while ago, someone said, Oh, you, I need to read this book. And the book was Transformation of America by Kathy O'Brien, who was a victim of, uh, being a sex, sex slave, a presidential model. And so I actually got a coupon from Barnes and Noble that would pay for my book. I said, Oh, great. I'm going to get a free book. So I go over there, I find the book in Barnes and Noble, I open it up, I flip through it, I start reading. I said, I can't even read this. This is so vile, so disgusting. And I had to put it on the shelf again. And I couldn't even buy it then. And then voice in my head said, Hey, wait a second. You know, if you can't read this, how are you going to ever help anyone else to wake up to what this real reality is? And so it took me a few months, I went back and then I got the book and, you know, that began the exploration of that very evil part of humanity. But that's why people can't wrap their heads around it, because they just can't imagine some movie that evil would harm a child and torture a child. It's just, it's not human. And that's exactly the point. That's what I remember David, I saying a lot. I used to watch his videos a lot. He says, people, people can't imagine, they can't wrap their heads around, like he said, they can't wrap their heads around that kind of evil. So they just don't think it exists. And there were reasons, you know, oh, it's a conspiracy theory. That's fate, you know, because people just can't imagine that that level of evil is going on with humans. But the thing is, it's not a human thing. It's a non-human thing is where it's done. So when you understand that, it makes a lot more sense of how such darkness can exist and have been going on for so long, you know, and not being exposed and people not knowing about it. So yeah, well, exactly. And it's time, it's time to get that shit out. It's time. Yeah, it is. It's definitely happening. It's happening. One of the things I wanted to mention about the earthquake that David Wilcox mentioned today is that, you know, he always has the insider information. He says that according to what he had heard, the earthquake was an attack on China Lake military base, naval base, which is massive, I forget how many, like 180 million acres or something like that, something I'm not exaggerating that number either. It was a massive military base. And the majority of it, obviously, is on the ground. Well, what he's being told is this was the main hub for the chemtrail operations. So this is where the chemtrail planes would leave from this military base. And then if you go back into the history of it, this is like from this very first reports of seeing chemtrails start were in this area. And they were actually noticed by one of the guys who worked on the military base. So they're thinking that this was an attack. And actually, there was more earthquakes than wheat. They were actually reported on the mainstream. There were a couple more in between then that were pretty substantial. But apparently, it's the largest earthquake that they've seen since 1995. So it's pretty, it potentially could have been a significant, really significant time. And it happened on Independence Day 4th of July. So where they're trying to send a message. And then if you think about like, if this does become a story or, you know, in history books one day, how fitting would that be? You know, the day they're shook on Independence Day and go over. It's just an interesting interesting way to look at it. You know, do we really know? No, but it's definitely a possibility. Yeah, when I was still under my mentor, my Sophie mentors, tutelage, in one of my meditations, I saw these transparent beings. They had unusual shapes like triangles and how they were moving these devices around. And I asked her, you know, what is that? I mean, are they real people? Yes, they are. It's what are those devices? And she said they were like psychic well, not amplifiers, the opposite, the amplifiers are to make things. And they had them seated in like the saying on Andrea's fault to prevent earthquakes. And so we have the help from higher beings as well to help do this. So they may have mitigated the cabal may have tried to have even more damage done and it was mitigated. That's very possible. Yeah, and I think there's always an ET force that has a hand whenever there's, you know, we obviously know about the nuclear, you know, the nuclear whole epidemic whenever they were shutting down all the bombs and stuff. So I think there always is a force at play definitely, you know, both positive and negative really. But that's the thing, the negative ones are for the most part have been roused it out. I was actually, Corey Good said that the negatives had they offered to turn on all their people on earth here and say, we'll give up all of our people, all of our agents here on earth, if you let us leave, let us go tonight. So they're stuck here. And why are they stuck here? Because they won't be able to withstand the energies coming in, especially if the flash occurs, then they'll just pretty much disintegrate or, you know, according to, because if they let them go, they're going to go, they're going to go start problems and other planets and so they're like, no, we're going to solve this problem once it's called. Well, we got you here. Yeah, it's like a murder in jail, like goes to the garden, like, please let me go, please let me go. Yeah, exactly. And that's that's people in the spiritual community have to understand what what that exactly means, because there are some people that think they're very spiritual and they say, oh, you know, we just have to love everyone and everything's fine. Let's light a candle. Everything will be okay. It's like, no, you can't negotiate with cancer. There is no negotiating. It's not like negotiating with a mafia or something like that, you say, all right, look, you guys, when we're going to give you a kickback or whatever, unless let us finish, you know, doing our job, building the building or whatever it is. And they, they, you can reason with them. They may be illegal and they may be trying to shake you down, but you can reason with them. You can't reason with Satanists. It's only a matter of time before they will try if they seize them. And once they seize an advantage, then they'll come in and and, you know, attack you and take back any, they renege on any agreement. They think lying, this is a perfectly good way of living. Yeah, any, any means necessary to whatever they, to get what they want is pretty much how they go about things. So yeah, no, there is no keeping their own end of the bargain or none of that. No, they don't care at all. So, no, like you said, doesn't work. So, what is your take? So we, you know, we know these negative ETS have existed on this planet for thousands, hundreds of thousands of years, if not more. So we, you know, we know about the grays and the reptilians, the archons, like, and, you know, we keep hearing that the numbers shrinking down. Do you have any information? I was listening to one of the videos or the audio recordings you sent me. I was wondering if you had any information through your own channeling, your own healing on, you know, how many are left or what that number is looking like now? Right. Well, there's no absolute number. I don't have any absolute numbers, but I just know there's less and less and I can measure this by when the people come in. A year ago, two years ago, almost every other person had had a curse, which is a different kind of entity that they get afflicted with. And almost 75, 80% of them would have some kind of entity on them when I would see them. Now the number is way, way down. Less than half have entities and they're easily, easily removed. There's hardly any reptilians around at all. The grays, for the most part, are now deciding what's humanity. They recognize that they need it to cooperate with humanity to make a better future for them. There are some rogue factions, I think most of them are these tall grays and they're almost individual, I don't know what the right word is, but they come in and they harvest either body parts or things like that, or they torment people. They harvest DNA for the most part from people that have attractive DNA profiles for their purposes. So there are some of them, but they're few and far between. I don't see very many of those at all. Archons, they were kind of above all them and they seem to have disappeared. They don't seem to be around anymore. It's not a fun planet anymore. I think they gave their orders through the reptilians and grays to do their dirty work and it's not a fun planet. So I think a lot of them already left and I think they may have been allowed to leave for whatever reason. So yeah, I thought we'd be done by now, but it's just a matter of time. They can't do anything. And I should say, this ties in with the reason why all these things are being uncovered right now is because their big brother evil beings on higher planes are no longer able to cloak them and protect them from the rest of us, from the humans who are good and positive. That's what the biggest change has been. And this has been coming for years. I did talk with someone who's at the very high end of the human pecking order on the evil side and he basically admitted to me that even though we have all this technology to look in the future using time machines and those kind of advanced technologies, looking glass and all those. Yeah, they had the technology and they said, we know that there's no timeline where we win. And I said, okay, well, why wouldn't you just cooperate and make it an easy smooth transition so that we can kind of make it a nice world and we'll take into consideration the good guys would of course, I'm sure take into consideration that you cooperate and help to ease the planet's evolution into the future. And they basically said, well, no, we just are going to go fight to the very end. We don't really see any upside to getting out of power any earlier. So they just want to maintain power to the very last minute, but they're going to lose. They already know they're going to lose. Well, that's that that's what makes them happy. So that's like, it's like a cigarette smoker knowing they have lung cancer. At this point, yeah, at this point. So it's over. So you're just going to keep doing the drug that makes you happy. And so you go out, you know, that's essentially what it is. And that is a drug. We are their drug. I have heard from multiple sources that some of them have slipped to the light. Basically, like they've all been given two options, either turn to the light or we're going to take you out and, you know, like about the humans, where yeah, human, the bad humans. Yeah, yeah. And so well, I've heard of some of the reptilians. I don't know if this is that's true or not. But I did hear somewhere where some of the reptilians did turn to the light side when they were given the option, either turn to the light or we're going to have to get rid of you. But then many, you know, many did not. And then same with the humans too, it's like, you know, you can work with us with the Alliance, you know, turn to the good side or, or, you know, bye bye. I mean, the Alliance is essentially made up of ex cabal members, you know, that's yeah, not always not everybody. Yeah. And that's, and that's one of the reasons we're able to infiltrate and take down because they have, they're, they almost acted like a double agent, you know, without even knowing it, you know, they just like, okay, well, here's the door in the district. So Lee, here's how you do this. This guy's doing that. You got to built in spy, basically, when you're a ball person flips to the Alliance. Yeah, so that's like the best thing possible when a cabal member starts waking up. Yeah. Yeah. So in doing one of your sessions, whenever you're, whenever you're doing this healing, how long does a typical session take? 25 minutes. Oh, that's all. Yeah, that's all that's needed. For people that have had a session with me already, it's I can even give them a 15 minutes tune up. But yeah, that's 25 minutes. I'll go in, fill them with energy, raise their vibration, open up their crown, pull out any mental trash. I'm going through a session at an ultra high speed here, raise their vibration, I'll go through all their glands to make sure none of them are holding onto anything negative. Sometimes entities will, will release them because they don't like to be in that higher vibrational energy. And they'll, I'll take them route and I have a little portal. I open up and let my higher beings, I work with the Pleiadians. They'll, they'll just take them either, rehabilitate them or recycle them through the Galacti central sun. So we go through all that, I take away anger, regret. Those are some of the biggest things right now for humans. They're holding onto this regret and anger and preventing them from going to higher levels of consciousness. So when that's gone, that really opens up their way to connect with their higher self. And I go through all that, I get rid of any hidden entities, implants, nanobots, curses, curses are orchestrated by these evil magicians. And those are usually human, but they can be ETs as well. And they will curse a person. And when they curse a person, they're able to bring in these entities known as the gin. And gin, you know, laddens lamp, you have the genies and laddens lamp. Well, genie was named after the gin. Their non physical entities, they can be playful, but basically their slaves to these evil magicians. And the magicians just say, okay, you know, Tyler, he's he's on our list. We want him cursed, whatever his weaknesses, go find it, make sure if he needs money, he doesn't get any money. If he's having a trouble with his girlfriend, whatever, go make sure that thing breaks up, that relationship breaks up, they'll do whatever it is to harm you as much as possible. So to get rid of them, you got to give her the magicians, tie them up, give rid of them so they can't harm anyone going forward. Then you have to go talk to the gin. Once their masters are out of the way, then you open up a portal and they'll leave usually voluntarily because they're no longer obligated to work for someone who's no longer in power. That's the hardest thing to get rid of is a curse. And then after that, I'll go through karmic relationships with their families and then hook them up with their higher self. So you do all that in 15 to 25 minutes? 25 minutes. I can't do a curse. If a curse, I couldn't do that in 15 minutes. But people who are have already been cleared for me, they won't have curses to do. Curse won't come back again. Sometimes the evil magician will hire someone else to try to curse someone. That was a year ago. But yeah, I can do that in 25 minutes. I'm very efficient. Yeah, that's it's like a NASCAR pit stop, man. That's like the quickest healing I've ever heard. Well, it's like I meant I make a joke. You can go see a psychotherapist for a year, or you can see me for 25 minutes and I'm willing to match because they don't work at the energetic level. That's where all the problems are. If you get rid of that, then everything else is a piece of cake. Amen. Yeah, that's incredible. And you're talking about the dark magic or what do you call them, dark magicians or whatever? Yeah, evil magicians, evil sorcerers. So the black magic is the term. Yeah, he said something that just reminded me of something Barry Littleton was talking about. And he said that what they'll do is they can essentially, like he said, if you're having car problems, because I was like, for the time, I just couldn't win with my vehicles. It was just like, Oh my God, like what is going on? And yeah, I'm doing all the spiritual work and everything. And it didn't click until I was done. He said when Barry said something about it, maybe it was some sort of an attack, because I mean, I just, it was just like unbelievable, on, you know, bad series of events. And I just wonder, you know, obviously it might have been my own karma. It could have been a number of other things, but that's just one of the possibilities that I hadn't considered yet. Right. Someone who's just really angry and then just out of sorts, they can make their machinery and things around them not work. And that's without having any help from any, you know, non physical entities. So it's very possible that everything's interconnected. And those negative emotions are not good for anything. Sure, sure. Definitely something to think about. So, back to back to your healing. I'm just fascinated, but I'm just fascinated. So, so when you go in, are you immediately in contact? Are you in contact with the person's higher self or what actually occurs? Right. Well, I'll give you many clearing. If you want to feel what it's like, I would, I wouldn't, sometimes the people will log in with a skype, Skype video, but I don't usually show it because I said, if you look at me, all you're going to see is me with my eyes closed waving my hands. So it's not exciting. So don't worry about that. Just just relax. So what I would do is I would open up a portal, this is how I open up a portal and I'm sending energy to you, Tyler. And I feel a little bit of the discord and energy. I'm raising your vibration and I would guide them with my voice. And I can already feel some of the distant energies. There's a super fast way of doing it. I'll do that first just to show you what it's like. I just take this and take all the discord and energies like a meat grinder. You got some entity on you. He's not happy. He was thought he would be able to sneak through just be pulled him out. Oh my god. I feel it. Okay. Yeah. So most people don't even know what it's like to be entity free, especially if they've been from, I can already feel your heart open, you're radiating love. I feel it immediately. Guys, anybody listening, it's hard to describe, but this is incredible right now. But here, I think you have a contract. So I'm just going to announce to the universe on any contracts Tyler has any non physical entities are here by null and void. He is a free sovereign being with no responsibilities under any spiritual agreement through all time, space dimension, space, time continuum, other realities and or tween realms, any obligations under any agreement are terminated immediately forever. I see that you had a contract with these, which would have probably been free before this. Well, it could have been an institute in this lifetime, but it most likely was came from other lifetimes. So now there's a bunch of extra entities around you because they tried to beat the deadline. Like, here's our last chance to get in and bug him. So I'm just going to gather those up. Wrap them up. Yeah. So all the ones that were in reserve in case, like sometimes people will say, well, I had by entity removed, and that could be true. But once that one's removed, there's another one waiting in the wings. If you have a contract, then they come in and replace them. You know, it's like a cook in your kitchen. If the cook gets taken away, there's a new one just keeps coming in. So anyway, so all those, you're clear to those now. So after I get rid of those entities, I'll raise your vibration some more. How long, if you want, I'll tell you how much time do you want me to spend clearing you? I can do 10 minutes or five minutes or if your audience gets bored. I'll have to run out. We can keep it fairly short, but I would definitely, I would love to come back. I mean, Aaron, I wish you could be in this room right now. I could feel this energy. I mean, I don't know if you feel it. Yeah. It's absolutely like I almost wanted to tear up there for a second. That's, that's, that's what a big, this is the secret is higher of the octaves of love. That's the secret. It's the most powerful force in the universe. So these reptilians, archons, and no one wants this in their, in their field. None of those service to self, you know, evil beings want love. Yeah, they can't handle it. They literally can't handle it. Wow, that was incredible. That was, that was incredible. Thank you so much for that. Honestly, it wasn't expecting that at all. And man, my heart, it just, I could feel it. Man, I thought you said he transformed me. Well, I mean, I didn't want to, you know, when I went there, I just loved the fact that I didn't have to spend any time getting rid of any discord and energies. It was already clear. Yeah. That was a, and that one, a fun thing that you might crack up. Remember when James did that meditation where he brought in the different E.T. races, he brought in the Syrians first, and I could feel that that was nice. And he brought in the Orion's, which I felt more, more dramatically than the Syrians, then he brought in the Pleiadians and I didn't feel anything. Yeah. That's because I'm already, I'm already a Pleiadian. So it was like, okay, it's like a water, a fish in water. No, it doesn't make any difference, but it was funny. I actually felt the Orion's, I felt the Orion's the most in that as well. Right. Yep. God, that would make, that makes so much sense. And on the energy that I was picking up on and that medicine wheel out in the field, when I went to the stones that I knew I had connections with, the Pleiades and even the Sasquatch and stuff, I wasn't feeling like I thought. And then I would go to like the Arctarians or the Andromeda's and I had never even really dove, dove, you know, explored, right, connections with them. And I felt this overwhelming energy in those rings. So that makes a lot of sense, you know, it's like a fish in the water when you're around from the Yeah, I was my energy. That's yeah, when I was in, yeah, I was gonna say when I was in college, you know, we went to, I went to Tufts University was outside of Cambridge, but we all went into Harvard Square to go shop at the Harvard Coupe because they had the most stuff to choose from posters and things like that. So everyone's in there buying posters for their, to remind them of their hometown and that I came back with a poster of the Pleiades. So I had a poster of the Pleiades above my, and I didn't know what the Pleiades was. I just said, this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. I'm just going to put that right up there. And I didn't. It wasn't until years later that I even knew what it was, that that was why I was connected to that. So yeah, and it is the most beautiful thing. That's actually what I have is a screen saver, the back, the wallpaper on my computer. Right. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, it's definitely beautiful. Wow, thanks again for that. Let me give you, let me give you some, Aaron, I don't want you to feel left out. Thank you. Thank you, Aaron. All right, we can keep talking in the meantime. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to observe. I think I'm already feeling it. Yeah. Definitely. So, I mean, if I'm allowed to talk while he's doing this, that's it. Yeah, go ahead. That's just even more impressive to me that this doesn't distract you, you know, it doesn't deal with it. But I mean, you've been doing this for a long time. Right. I had some very good mentors that showed me how to do this. Actually, my Sophie, when I met her, I barely knew what reincarnation was. I heard about it, but that was it. And I was a mathematician. I didn't know anything about history or anything like that. But, you know, she told me, you're a spirit technician. I said, okay, great. What is that? She says, well, you'll be able to go in and operate like at a spiritual level on people. She says, but don't worry about it. You know, you'll learn in time. It's like, I can't even imagine what that would be like. But it was right. I wasn't even told just a few years ago that I realized, wait a second, she told me this over 20 years ago. That's what I'm doing. Nice. This is incredible. So, so what did you pick up for Aaron? I don't feel any entities on him, though. But that's an example where, you know, people and it, yeah, some some people say, well, look, how come, you know, this guy, he's not even spiritual. He doesn't have any entities. I said, no, because he's not in the front line of the battle. And I'm not saying what's about Aaron, but you can't tell if a person has entities or not by their level of spiritual advancement, that they could be moved. It's like a little war. We're going through a spiritual war. And so the entities that could have been on Aaron last week, they said, we're not moving in here. We got to go after Tyler. He's a troublemaker right now. We got to go get him. And then they'll, they'll attack the people at the, at the highest levels. They're the ones in the front lines that are fighting this, this war. And people say, what can I do to prevent getting entities on me or curses? I said, well, I can't tell you that because if I knew I would do it, I get cursed more than all my clients combined because I'm a bad guy. And then from the perspective of those evil guys and the magicians, I'm a bad guy. So they attack me and I'll, I'll be talking with you and all of a sudden, wait a second, I feel ornery or angry or something. Hold on. I got cursed again. Hold on. Will I get rid of this? And I'll get rid of it. And they're okay. And I've done this at dinner with one of my friends. Oh, no, someone's curse may hold on. And just, just get rid of it. But wow. Wow. That's, that's so impressive. I, I mean, I can tell, like I went on my dad and I went on a paranormal investigation last October and a cave near my house. And on the way home, I literally felt an entity take over into my body. I almost had to stop the car. I started getting nauseous and like, but most broke out in the sweat, I started getting weak. And I, and I knew exactly what it was. And I fought through it. I was actually going, we're going to meet up with some friends. And I had to go home. I couldn't even meet up with them. It was that intense. And I, you know, I ended up having a Reiki healer. Pull me aside at a psychic fair. And she could sense the entity on me. I still had not removed it. I tried doing it myself. Right. And she, she could sense it right with just me walking by. And I ended up doing, she ended up removing it right there in the spot for me. And that's nice. Yeah. So I know what it's like to feel like when something's attached, but I don't think I can pick up on it that quick. Maybe, I mean, here's a lot of them, a lot of times it's not that, it's not that noticeable. It's probably more subtle. You might have more, you're sleeping. I don't know, but. Yeah, absolutely. It can be very subtle. And by just trying to steer you in a little bit off direction, keep you a little bit out of out of sorts. And then there are other things too that the cabal uses. They have these nanobots that are like artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence type entities, the most of them are etheric. So you can't even see them. They have physical ones, but the etheric ones are the ones that are more troublesome. And they're not as bad as a full blown entity. But what they do is they just seed areas of unrest, like Portland's. If they see there's going to be an Antifa march or protest or something like that, they'll seed the whole area to try to create as much civil unrest as possible. And they do that. And I had one client, he's calling me from Europe, and I'm clearing them out. And I said, you got all these nanobots all over you. And I just stopped and said, are there any protests or anything going on over there? Because you live in Belgium. He goes, oh, yeah, as a matter of fact, there are the whole down the university. There's a big protest going on about whatever it was. I said, OK, that makes sense. So they knew there was going to be a protest. They put these in there, just to keep people a little ornery, a little off, a little more aggressive. They're trying to start civil wars, but the higher beings and everyone are getting rid of these things. So there's less and less of that. So describe a nanobot. Well, it's a narrow, narrow, it's like tiny little thing, less than a whatever millimeter big, but it's half artificial intelligence and half of a therapeutic entity. And they just, one of the funny stories, a woman calls me up or texts me and says, I need emergency clearing. And she had already been to me. So, OK, sure. I'll do the over lunch. And I'm describing it to her. And I said, oh, he had all these nanobots over you. That's crazy. I said, well, it's not crazy. It's like, she's, no, no, it's not crazy what you're saying. What's crazy is I was driving to my office, who's a chiropractor. And she said, I felt as if someone took a paintbrush and spritzed it. And I went right through my windshield and into me, all these dots. And I had, that's when I had the problem. I said, oh, well, there's those were the nanobots that came into you. And she goes on, I knew it was not physical because it went right through the windshield. I said, OK, well, that's what we got rid of on you. So literally, that's what they would be like. If you're, she's very perception, very, very psychically gifted. And that's what you felt. Sometimes you can feel like things are crawling on you on your skin, even though they're not physical. Yeah, that's that's extremely interesting. So you could essentially, are these things just like sent to a person in particular? If they're trying to attack somebody or they just like, you know, can you just pick it up when they're in the wrong area or? Yeah. Yeah, if you're in the wrong area, it's more a nuisance than it is something dangerous. A regular entity is more powerful and more influential. But like I said, they'll Portland, Berkeley, when they try to start riots in Berkeley. Charlotte's Phil, I'm sure they did that when they had the trying to get people to fight there. You know, George Soros busted people on both sides of the of the divide so that they would start to fight. And then they dropped in the nanobots to try to get the audience people other people there to contribute to the violence. So, yeah, those are the kind of places where they'll insert these nanobots. Wow, that's a man. Thanks for all this intel. And it's nice to get refreshers on a lot of it because, you know, we deal with so many distractions every day. And, you know, how things happen, you forget about something until something triggers it. So, it's nice to hear it all again. That's what's nice about the conferences as well. You know, just it's like a reset and get you back to where you need to be and gets you grounded a little bit. Totally. Yeah. So, speaking of the conference and the UFOs that we were seeing every night, what is your take? Like, on the current status of this whole disclosure that's happening, is what is your take on, like, what do you think we're going to see some type of craft rolled out? Do you have any thoughts on that? I really like Jordan. Jordan say there's presentation because he's expanded through the word the definition of disclosure to not merely UFO crafter and ETS. That's a small portion of it. All the stuff about vaccinations, chemtrails, you know, nanobots and all these other things that are going on is just as valuable as what needs to be covered. And he did a great job of doing an introduction to that kind of subject and an introduction to Q and all that. It was very helpful. I would like to see that presentation broadcast to the average citizen who doesn't know about this stuff because it would be digestible for them. To me, it was like somebody knew, but he did a great, great job of organizing it. Yeah, he did. I said the same thing when I saw him speaking Hawaii. He had another, he just broke it down. He does it in a way that's, like he said, digestible. And if you just give the guy a chance and listen to him, it makes a lot of sense. You know, there's so many haters out there. You just wanted this mess right away. Even the panel with him, Ben and Rob and James, I think that panel, they did, it was a perfectly bundled package on the whole everything that's going on right now. I mean, they just nailed it and they did it in a subtle way to where you could actually take that and red pill somebody with that. I mean, just take a look at this and give me your thoughts at least, you know? Yeah, that was good. I got to spend a little bit of time with Ben and Rob also during the conference and just hanging out and they were great guys too. Oh, absolutely. I love their YouTube channel. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they're amazing. Yo, what up Ben, Rob? There he is. What else? Everybody. All right. Go subscribe to edge of one or go subscribe. Subscribe to Jane the Chief podcast. Yeah. We have to be on there on edge of wonder's live. You said he for a little bit for a couple minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So they gave us a little shout out. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it was. It was definitely pretty cool. So as far as you actually didn't answer my question, though. Well, the more advanced ETs, you're not going to see them in a 3D world. They would have to slow their vibration down to be able to be seen. It's counterproductive. They don't need to be. I mean, I connect with them in the higher world. I mean, through my meditations. To me, it doesn't matter. I don't need some government official or someone say, "Hey, this is what's going on." I said, "What are you talking about?" I use them in my clearings. One of the things that they sent to me to make my thing more efficient is when I'm taking away sadness or sorrow from someone, depression. I used to have to pull it out of them manually kind of. Now all I have to do is just think and these beings, higher beings, called brothers and sisters of sorrow will come in and they'll take away all the sadness from someone in seconds, 20, 30 seconds. And I don't go through all the explanations of one pulling in these guys. This is what's going on. They say, "Okay, I'm going to take away your sorrow." And I just take it away. But they're the ones doing all the work. So I'm using them to do my work for me. So yeah, do they, ETs don't exist? What do you mean they don't exist? I'm using them every day. I need some of them to tell me that's what I'm doing. Yeah, and that's a good point because you can connect with ETs anytime you want to, if you know how. But I think it's like, to me, disclosure is, you know, because we've been living on a slave plant, we've been in slave species for so long and most of us don't even realize it, right? So, so we buy the propaganda, we have to hide all the lies because we don't know any better and we fall for all the tricks and, you know, the money system. Most plants, most ETs don't even use money because why do you need money if you have free energy and, you know, you're not paying on your planet? That's why, like, a lot of ETs, I've heard a lot of people that are in contact with different benevolent ETs. They're like, "Wait a second, you guys have to pay to live on your own negative sense." Yeah, you've got to pay for poisoning the other. Yeah, yeah. Like, why do you have to pay to live on the plant you were born on? That isn't, and it's because we're an enslaved planet, but what's happening now is we're where the slavery's going away. We're getting rid of the the enslavers and we're becoming free and, you know, I think all of us, I know I am definitely a star seed. I think I came here from somewhere else to help out with what's going on now. So, which explains why on an energetic level, like, nothing ever sat right with me on this plant, it's like what doesn't feel right, you know, it's like something's not right here. And now I know why, and I always had that feeling, but I never knew why. And so I woke up to this stuff and I'm like, "Oh, no wonder I've always felt that way." Sure. But what's happening now is we're becoming a free planet and we're going to be able to interact openly with ETs on, you know, I think on a third dimensional level. And, you know, all the technology has been hoarded and hidden away from us for so long or even used to enslave us, you know, and to harm us is now going to be turned around and used for the benefit of humanity. And it's going to it's going to make things exponentially better on this planet. So, yeah, yeah. And I guess, I guess what I was referring to, even though all that stuff was beautiful, I was referring to as far as the disclosure of our guess, our own craft, like the TR3B. Oh, yeah. The reverse engineer craft. That was my initial question was, "When do you think that we could potentially see that rolled out?" I guess I should. Oh, I will do it deeper with it. Yeah, no. No, actually, what you guys said was way better. I was just clarifying, you know, what's interesting is I, on the way home for me, saidy, getting on my plane. I was talking to this woman. She worked for a McDonald Douglas and Boeing. She actually physically assembled many different lines of jets and aircraft. And when we landed in St. Louis, I got off the plane, she's like, "How was your flight?" And I was like, "I said terrible." I said, "I was cramped up. There's no room. You know, I was, you know, can't stretch out, blah, blah." I said, "I'm just waiting for the UFO technology to roll out." She looked me in the eyes. She goes, "Oh, it's coming." I said, "Oh, yeah?" I said, "What makes you say that?" She goes, "Trust me, it's coming." And I don't know what she knew. I said, "Yeah, that's interesting because I'm into that stuff." And I explained the conference to her and stuff. She goes, "Oh, totally." She goes, "I know they're out there, and you'd be a fool not to you." You know? So, all you got to do is just, you know, say something and see if it triggers somebody. And, you know, it's nice to hear people have to say. You know, you talk about triggering people. I was at this nice restaurant bar, just sitting at the bar having a glass of wine and an appetizer, and these two guys are next to me. And they didn't know the answer to some question, some trivial thing. I said, "Oh, a jobo book. Oh, yeah, right." So, I start talking with them. Well, and then they said something political. And I said, "Well, I don't agree with that. What do you mean you don't agree with that? I'm on the west side of LA, like one of the most, you know, liberal areas that they, everyone has to hate Trump in order to live there." And so, I just said, "Well, this is how it is." And this guy, one of them was a physicist, and the other one was a friend was, "I don't know what he was. He's mostly an idiot." But his friend was a physicist. He's asking me questions, and I'm giving him all these answers. And then his friend keeps interrupting with stupid comments that you would hear on CNN or something, and he's stopped talking, stopped talking. I want to hear what this guy has to say. And so, he's asking me all these questions, and he's considering it, and he says, "You know, I disagree with every single thing you said, but I said, but everything I said is internally consistent. It explains the data that you can observe right now with your eyes, and I'm giving you predictive ability." So, in six months, when you see these things happen, they're going to say, "I remember this guy at the bar who told me these things, and we pooped it, and now it's there." And he's taking that in. He puts his head in his hands, and then his friend keeps talking. He says, "Stop talking. Stop talking." And his friend just keeps talking. So, he gets up from his seat, walks down to the other end of the bar, and he's sitting there like a guy who just lost his family fortune, but it was the death of a belief system. He was stuck with the logic because he's a physicist. He couldn't refute the logic, and so his whole mind, his whole world, was turned upside down. The cognitive dissonance. You were seeing cognitive dissonance. This is his first hand. You're seeing him wake up. Wow, that doesn't mean a hole back. If that doesn't mean a hole to get out there and wake up your neighbor, which I've tried, sometimes it backfires, but sometimes you get all the way you're looking for, and it's amazing when you see that spark in somebody, even if it's kind of a snowballing form after that, because it's inevitable. Oh, totally. All it takes is for somebody to be open to that information too, is what I've noticed, is that the people that don't just argue and argue and fight back and won't accept it, they're just not open to, they're just so stuck in their beliefs. They're not even open at all to your information or any other information that contradicts that. It takes somebody being open, and then if they're open, then you can tell them things, and they'll consider it and think about it. Maybe that is true. Oh, that's interesting. I've never heard that before, and then it gets the wheels turning, and that's exactly what happened with that guy. Oh, wait a second, having those realizations. There was a meme that came through with cognitive dissonance where the guy had his head and his hands like that, and it came in the next day. I said, this is exactly what that physicist looked like after I was done with him, so it was so appropriate. Did you leave him a card after you walked away? No, no, no. I didn't. I just, like I said, you don't even know me, but you're just going to remember this guy at the bar, told me this, and now you're stuck. I know. I tuned in the next day just to see what he was feeling, and he was still, his whole world had been shaken and rattled. It would be hard for him to go back to the old way of thinking. Nice. That's incredible. You need to get like a men in black business card. Yeah. It won't even do a number. It might be, right? That's it. Yeah, that's all. What does this mean? No, that's that's really great stuff right there. That's really great. Yeah, I mean, I've tried it with other people and so they, like, like Aaron was saying, they just, they're not open. I said, I said, well, you know, of course, who paid, who paid for that, who paid for that dossier, don't you? Who? And I told him, oh, I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Well, I said, well, this is public information. I'm not making it up. It's not some insight. I like it. Everyone knows this. If you look for it, you can Google it, even they'll be able to find it. Well, I don't believe that. Okay. I can't work with you anymore. You're reached the limit of your ability to grasp new ideas. Yeah, you can't force someone to believe something they're not ready to believe. Right. They don't want to. Yeah. And anymore. Yeah, that ETS. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Any more, you can't even Google something. I mean, this stuff to, to wake Google is being censored now. Oh, yeah. That's why. Yeah. They don't want people. They don't want you us, you know, telling people things or them hearing it somewhere and then, oh, let me go Google that, you know, they finally read scrubbing the internet and censoring because you can find the stuff. Yeah, YouTube and Google, the two main sources that the masses use for information are obviously the most censored. So when you do try it, when you are trying to explain this to somebody and they look it up, that's what's making it difficult for us, because unless you can get that trigger, like you, the experience you had, if somebody really wants to go and do this research, they're not going to listen to a whistleblower, especially if they're a skeptic, they're going to want the hard information. And that's just not out there right now, especially with the censorship. It is out there, but they're not going to, they're not going to buy it, you know, right. That's what tell everyone. Duck, duck, duck, duck, go. That's your search engine of choice. What I've noticed with Google is a big tactic they do is almost every like conspiracy theory topic, they'll, you search for it and almost the whole page or like the first four, five, six results are debunking that or like, oh, this crazy or like a mainstream media news. So anytime anyone wants to look for it, that's the first thing they see and they go, oh, I knew it was fake or, oh yeah, of course, you know, and then they just write it off and they think they did their research, you know, and of course, that's not research at all. But that's a big, that's a big tactic. I know because I've done many Google searches of different things and it's always like, you got to go way down to finally get like, yeah, right, you know, you got all this propaganda, you got to wait through first. Yeah, whole page. And then you got to, yeah. You know, you said, you said something that you reminded me of a scenario, I always imagine playing out whenever information does come forward. So like, I have many friends, I won't say names who are skeptics about a lot of this stuff. And you know, they hear me, but they don't they're not listening. But I bet you whenever, you know, shit hits a fan or when information comes out, it's not even going to be I wouldn't even get a chance to say I told you so, even though I'm not going to do that. But right, I can already see it be like, Oh, what? I knew the whole time. I believed it. I just didn't, you know, they're going to start like acting like they weren't again. Right. See that playing out like, Oh, I didn't, I never said I didn't believe it. I just met. I can see that playing out. I just, with many. Well, because I don't want to sound dumb, they don't want to admit they were wrong. So they're going to, you know, bend the words a little bit or whatever it is, whatever we are. You know, we have to have we have to resist being, you know, I told the I told you so, like you effing it. You know, this is going to be the urge to do that, but we're going to have to have, you know, be like, yeah, man, you know, this is like, this is what I found back how many years ago, and like, it's coming out and have compassion and love for. Yeah. Right. This is the urge to better late than ever. And I get where people come from, you know, it's not if you go and say, you know, everything that happened on Star Trek is real that really happened. Star Trek is a documentary, essentially. Yeah. Right. You know, they're going to laugh at you and, you know, maybe, you know, I can't speak for everyone, but it makes sense. That's a hard, that's really hard to think your teeth into, especially hearing it for the first time. It has to almost enter your consciousness. It just has to enter your life in other ways. Information has to, you know, we have to go through the awakening process. You can't just be told and then believe. But yeah, I understand, I get why somebody wouldn't believe something like that. So any Star Trek, Star Wars, any of them? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those are all, you know, the Matrix was one of the best at waking people up to, you know, you, someone once wrote a review of my book, Mystic Warrior, but he said, it's kind of like the time when you watch the Matrix for the first time, and you feel sorry for all those people who don't understand what they're really telling you here, that we're living in this Matrix. So it's not, you know, it's not just a movie. So yeah, I was in sixth grade when that movie came out, and it rocked my world then, and I had no idea why. I just, I was fascinated with that movie, but now it makes sense. So I was like, Oh, I put it, I put it in a Christian perspective because I grew up. I was, that was back in my Christian days, you know. So I was like, Oh, yeah, it's like a, so I had that like thought of it, but I put it in the Christian box of like, Oh, Nio is, Nio is Jesus. And yeah, and the entities, those are like demons or Satan or whatever, and then the false reality is, I still had that that's, that's one of the benefits of me growing up in Christianity is that I at least had kind of a foundation there for like, I knew this reality was like a false matrix reality. And like there, and I knew there was a spiritual world, right? So I already had that, at least ingrained in me, I knew there was, there's other forces going on, there's other things going on than just what we see with our, what we experienced with our five senses, you know, so yeah, it wasn't pure atheism, you actually had a, you actually had, you know, had that spirituality, but I just had a lot of like dogmatic, you know, beliefs and within that, that were not good, obviously, but, you know, as every legend does, in my opinion, but, but, that basically, so I like understood that. So, so that actually helps when I got out of Christianity, I, I knew there was a spiritual, greater reality going on. So that's why the spiritual information kind of came easily to me when I started stumbling across that. I was like, Oh, yes, this, this definitely resonates because I already, I already had that, you know, sure, sure, there were some people that doubted that when I said there are these demonic entities that come and attack people, it was, Oh, I don't believe any of that. That's like nonsense. I said, well, do you believe in the Bible? Yeah, well, who do you think was one of the best guys that ever getting rid of casting demons out of people? Oh, wow, you mean Jesus? Yeah, it's right in the Bible, even say it. So it's not a figurative thing. It's what he does. But he did. It wasn't his main message. He had to teach people love, but they're still in that, you know, sometimes they get too many. He'd throw them out. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm, I feel I'm in good company. I'm going to, you know, follow that example, get rid of those demonic beings. Oh, yeah, totally. And so much of the Bible, like made, it made more sense to me once I had my awakening, you know, to the greater reality outside of Christianity. I went back and read the thing. I went back and I was like, Oh, my gosh, now I see it from a greater perspective. And it's I see what this means now. And like, like Jesus talks about the pineal gland, we says, if your eye, if your eye is single, your body will be full of light. Like that passage never made sense to me. I'm like, what does that even mean? And you know, there's like the answer they give you that doesn't really make sense. But he's talking about the pineal gland, of course. All right. Like that actually makes sense. Yeah. And he talks about reincarnation. If you know how to interpret it. And he talks about, you know, other beings, ETs and spirits and, you know, everything. It's all perspective. And yeah. Someone asked me, yeah, someone asked me once on one of the panels when I was on some spiritual conference. And I said, well, how will we recognize the good ETs from the bad ones? And someone gave this big, long explanation, why have a book here? I've had 10 things to check on this and that. And I say, well, I have a simple way. What's that? You will know them by their fruit. Yes. They're telling you things that are empowering, like a loving parent is trying to elevate you, not giving you everything, but making you develop so you can be self-sufficient and empowered. That's a good ET. That's a good thing. Good entity, whatever. In any category, if it's someone who's instilling fear, trying to scare you, or on the other hand, inflating your ego. Oh, you're the greatest ever. You're the greatest ever. Don't listen to anyone. You're just so great. You're a great, great, great. That's another one that's with spake. So, you know them by their fruit. If they're like a loving parent trying to elevate you, just like it was taught that he taught, then you're in the right ballpark and simple. Yeah, explanation. When you just said that somebody, I know popped into my head and the light bulb just went off. And I knew that concept, but yeah, it's just like, whoa, okay, and that makes a lot of sense now. Something I thought of earlier when you're talking about people don't want to believe in the demons and stuff. It's okay when you're giving them good news when you talk about the demons. It reminds me of a, I always do this because I grew up watching Seinfeld. There's an episode where, where George is like, he's like, I always knew God would punish me. And Jerry goes, I thought you didn't believe in God. He goes, well, I do for the bad things. So, it's just funny because I don't know. It's just, for some reason that popped into my head whenever you were talking about it. Another thing I want to touch on with you, Ed, is, is Q. You know, we talked about it. Obviously, you know, you try to put me on a spot and making me answer the question. And obviously, you know, we all, I think we all three have an understanding of what it is. But what you take on, on Q, on Q in general, what's happening right now, yeah, no. I mean, Q is a group, small group of mostly military intelligence people that get together that they knew they had to be able to wake up to people, not everyone in the world, not 50%, a small group of devoted people that can think to themselves to help usher in this new, the new reality, to change the belief system of people here. You can't rely on the media. If we had the media, it was even neutral, we'd already be done. Bad guys would be in prison, and everyone would be already, you know, cheering. But they're not there. That's the last bastion of, of the evil. They, they are clinging to that, those mainstream news channels. And people ask me, well, which, which news station should I listen to? And I say, none of them. I said, it's like asking, which cigarette should I use to improve my health? None of them. That's great enough. They all, they all give you cancer. So just don't watch them. You know, like Mark Twain said, if you don't watch the news, you'll be uninformed. If you watch the news, you'll be misinformed. He said it with newspapers before you can watch. He had to read it, but that still applies today. Absolutely. But once you have that framework, like we all have now of how the world is kind of structured, then when you see events, even if you see them in the mainstream news, you know, with their bias, what likely, what really did happen. So you have to read a little bit between the lines, but you need that basic framework that most people don't have yet. But the other thing is we don't need the vast majority of people to have that initially. We just need a small group of dedicated people, truth tellers and podcasts like you that are the new news that tell people what's really going on. And if you will awaken a few key people, they're going to be more valuable than 100 of the walking, walking dead. Oh, yeah. Exactly. I mean, there's certain people who are, you know, we, like you said, those negative entities had to, I had a contract with them, but you know, we could also have a contract with definitely, you know, a higher, the higher beans as well, positive beans, and it could be in our contract to, to wake up and be to be on the front lines of this disclosure. And like the key people. Yeah, when I say you had a contract, you should make this clear. It was probably from another lifetime. And you may have used them to do some things that weren't good. And in this lifetime, they would have come to you and they say, Hey, Tyler, if you do these evil things, we're going to help you. And you say, Okay, well, sign me up. If you're evil, but you're not, you are a good guy. And so they made your life more difficult than it had to be. And that's those are the kind of people that come to me. I don't understand why I have so much bad luck. I don't know. Well, here, you got some entities on you. Let me get rid of that. We're cursed. Let me get rid of that. And then all of a sudden, their whole life changes. I mean, if that happened to me when I went to my, my Sophie, I couldn't believe what the bad luck I had. I had that background venture capital entrepreneur. I knew what I was doing. I was hard working and motivated. And I just had 45 deals in a row that didn't work. Some were minor, but some of them were big, big deals. I can't, how could I have such bad luck? And she didn't explain it as clearly as I'm explaining it here. But basically, I was cursed. And when she took the curse away, everything became easier again. I was like, wow, life is way easier than it had to be. And that's what happens with people when they get these curses removed, you know, it's a minority of people. But when they're removed, they can explode. They can skyrocket in consciousness and just an accomplishment, what they do with their life. Well, then I'm on my, I'm on the right track after tonight. Yeah. Well, it's a good start. Yeah, no, absolutely. No, that's, that's, that's, that's so empowering. I have a list of people this long, I'm going to send your way right after Okay, beautiful. You guys are all being attacked. Go to this guy. Call him. Right. Make sure you pay him though. Yeah. All this time. Yeah. So, and I was, what I wanted to talk about with Q is how, so, you know, this whole Epstein thing, Q was talking about this in November of last of 2017. And I reread the Q post and it was all laid out. They just told you everything stuff that they still aren't even talking about in the news, you know, details and information and names and stuff. So, you know, this to me is like a huge Q proof and it just solidifies, solidifies if any, if any people have any doubt, you know, even though I don't know how you could with Q if you really know what it is. Yeah, right. But it's, it's, I think it's, it's just super cool time. It's a super cool time. That's my message. This is the greatest time in history for the last 2000 years to be, to be living on earth to watch this transformation. Totally. And it goes along with your other new question about disclosure. It's more likely than instead of a fifth density or sixth density ship, rematerializing third density, it's more likely we move up to fifth density and then we can see them with our eyes the same way we can see things in third density. We live as spiritual beings, we already live on all these different densities and it's the function of where do you place your awareness? Like the radio tuner, where do you place your awareness when now we're in 3D or we're seeing our with our eyes, we're at five regular senses, when you go to sleep, you're not using those regular senses and yet you can see people feel them, meet with them, time is different, it's more malleable than the fourth density, fifth density, things are more simultaneous. So yeah, as we move up there, we already exist in those densities, all of them are already, but as we move up in higher consciousness, we spend more time on those higher densities. And when you spend more time there, then you can see in sense these higher density beings that don't bother with the 3D world for the most part. So, you know, you say you work with a lot of these beings. I'm just curious if you've had any, like, I don't want to say physical contact because I doubt that, but have you had any other type from your healings, like any just like personal experiences that have just rattled you to where you still don't even know what might have happened. Do you have anything like that that's going on? Well, the example I would give when I was relatively young in my spiritual understanding, I would have, I would go to sleep and I wake up with bruises, you know, especially on my legs. And then I realized later that what I was doing was fighting these reptilians on the lower astral realm, which is where they like to hang out. And literally, we'd be having fights and sometimes because it's so close to the physical realm that would show up in the physical body much more readily than the higher level fights. But what happens in these, you know, just like on earth, we have physical battles, we have political battles, we have legal battles. When the higher realms, you have spiritual battles. And whoever, when you get into this consensual reality, like in a dream state, the one who can go to the higher level, he or she can dictate what happens in that consensual reality. So whoever goes to the higher level wins the battle. And back then I couldn't go to, I was at the same level or just roughly the same area. And so we would have, I would get beaten up a lot. Now I'm a much higher level. Now there's no more fighting like that. I could be like the matrix. I could pick one of those up and throw them across the room, just like Neo, you know, through Agent Smith or whatever. You know, that's, that's how it works. And that's another motivation to elevate your consciousness and to raise your vibration. Man, so you know, you didn't tell us that. Well, same thing. The matrix has got a lot more truth than it than most people ever understand. And I never even, and I understood the concept of it, but I never actually thought of the physical martial arts, martial arts aspect of it being a potential reality in another realm. As far as it just makes a lot of sense. And there's a lot of light bulbs going off tonight for me. Oh, good. Well, all your viewers, the millions of viewers will also get it. That'll be awesome. Yeah. No, there's hope and to not just the light at the end of the tunnel. We're coming up on the end of the tunnel and it's going to be bright daylight. And we got guide guide of cue to help us look for what's coming up in advance. So keep your eyes open. Things are changing all for the better. Yes. Yep. Yes. Let's, let's, let's go ahead and start wrapping it up. And do you have a message to continue off for what you were just saying for everybody, everybody listening? Well, can you leave us with? Yeah, these are the most exciting times in history for the last 2000 years at least. We went through a period like this in Atlantis where things got screwed up. And the people from Atlantis, many of us, many of you listening were from there and we vowed never to have that happen again. So now we're here today and we're making sure that doesn't happen again. The whole earth is humanity is going to be uplifted. All the negative beings for the most part on the higher planes are gone. And we're doing the mop up operations for the people on earth, the human incarnate BTS who are here trying to harm our planet and harm the humanity or will soon be wrapped up. So look for all good things to happen. Yeah. We're in a great period of time. Yeah. Yeah, right. Pay attention. Everybody, keep your eyes open. Don't watch the news. If you do understand, you might not be getting the truth. Every once in a while, we do see a snippet of something that's like, oh, I'm surprised they ended up on Man's Dream. But that's about what's about. Oh, it's vaccines. I have a couple people that are maybe there are handful. Yeah, like Tucker Carlson. Yeah. But they're the only one that I see that has. And they're their bubble. It's your date. They're limited as well. When they talked about the, you know, all the shooters that are conducting these false flags were on psychotropic drugs or whatever the correct term is, but they're all drugs. It's like someone want to bring that button. Well, you can't talk about that. And they change the subject cut to a commercial. We can't talk about that. We can tell a little bit of truth, but not that much. Not that much. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But what I've heard is that like the Alliance is working with a couple of people at Fox to get some stuff out there and talk about Tucker Carlson. One of them, and I forget who else, but um, Hannah. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. He comes up with some good stuff too. Yeah. Yeah. Both of them, I think, I think are, it seems like the Alliance is like feeding them information at least. But they're at least, they're at least putting out some truthful stuff. I know that's, that's for sure. So, but yeah, most, most mainstream media that was just completely, you know, just go ahead of what they're saying and you'll get pretty close to the truth. It's what I would say. Yeah. The opposite. Yeah. Do you notice that, uh, Tucker Carlson and Handy all stuff? So, this stuff isn't on like prime time news when people, when people tune in, you know, it's in the off hours. So, you know, that's obviously for a reason. They're not putting it on at four o'clock news, five o'clock news. They won't let them probably do that. Yeah. Yeah. So, so that's then, that's the news we're talking about, that prime time news here. Yeah. That's the stuff that you turn on. And there's, you know, there's a shooting, there's a store was robbed of massive car accidents. Yeah. This person died, you know, and most of it's negative. Yeah. Well, it's all fear, fear, fear. Yeah. And then coming up, uh, Kim Kardashian had bought a new kit. Yeah. New body implants. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, uh, so is there, uh, do you want to, uh, let people know how they can reach you, how they, if they want to book a session, we want to get your books, you know? Sure. Uh, just visit energycenterclearing.com and the service that I provide the, my best one is the higher self integration. It's on the top menu. But energy can be, if you go to energycenterclearing.com, you'll get a free escaping the matrix audio book. You can get that signing up for my newsletter or just the energy center clearing MP3 or CD. Also, we'll help clear out your energy center so you can connect with your higher, prepare you to connect with your higher self. If you want a private session with me, that's the higher self integration. So go to energycenterclearing.com and you can read all about this and read about me as well. All right. Yeah. And we will definitely link those in the description. They're already linked on YouTube, I believe, uh, I mean, that YouTube Facebook, um, beautiful. Yeah. All right. So I guess with that, we'll just go ahead and wrap it up. Thanks so much for coming on. It was a true pleasure. Yeah. Thanks for, yeah. Thanks for coming on your show. It's a great, great little journey here. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, uh, I'm so glad to have gotten a chance to talk to you and get to know you a little better, you know, we only just briefly passed each other in these settings. Perfect. No, it's, it's been truly an honor and thank you. Uh, everybody listening, make sure you go and check out his work, check out his books. Clearly, if you've listened to this podcast, you can tell he's a fascinating individual. Very, very talented. Um, 25 minute NASCAR pit stop, click clearing, you know, we're all going in laps around the world. You just stop a dip pit stop and you go on your way. Um, anyway, so I guess we'll just, uh, wrap it up with that. 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