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EP 241 - James Bartley: Black Helicopters & UFOs - Muting of Consciousness - Blue Beam Technology

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James Bartley is the host for The Cosmic Switchboard Show. James has
investigated Alien Abductions, Military Abductions, Alien Technology Back-
Engineering, Secret Space Programs, Ancient Mysteries and “Surface Level
Conspiracy Fact” for over thirty years.
James has had his own personal ET and Cryptid Encounters. He is a former
member of the Military Intelligence Community and is an Independent
Historian specializing in Military History, Intelligence/Counterintelligence and
Special Operations.
James has lectured in many places including Philadelphia Pennsylvania,
Memphis Tennessee, Las Vegas Nevada, San Diego California, Roswell New
Mexico, and the legendary “UFO Friendship Campouts” at the Lil A’Le Inn in
Rachel Nevada, adjacent to the infamous “Area 51/Groom Lake Complex” in
Central Nevada. James spoke at The Repcon near Manchester England which
was the first ever conference dedicated to Reptilian Research and most
recently at The Paradigm Shift Summit in Surfers Paradise Australia.
Website:
https://www.thecosmicswitchboard.com/
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/JamesBartley

Duration:
1h 12m
Broadcast on:
26 Jul 2024
Audio Format:
mp3
(dramatic music) (dramatic music) (dramatic music) (dramatic music) - Hey guys, welcome back to the show. Just a reminder, if you want to come hang out with us at our conference this year and Grafton, Illinois, May 22nd through the 25th, tickets are still available. We would love to see you guys out there. And if you can't make it, you can grab a live stream pass for $99, the live stream experience this year is gonna be, I guess you can say enhanced. We're really trying to make it something special and unique and possibly interactive. So take advantage of that. And if you can't make it for the entire time, day passes will be available on April 1st. And we'd love to see you guys out there. We're really looking forward to it. And if you're looking for a roommate, there are people on the Telegram chat who are looking for roommates right now. So the Telegram chat is available on the website journeytitruthcon.com. And you might be able to find someone there to room with since the onsite lodging is sold out. Without wasting any more time, tonight we are joined once again by James Bartley. We had him on about a year ago. We talked about reptilians among us. We really got deep into that subject. And it was great. It was one of my favorite episodes. James, I don't know if you can call him an expert on reptilians, but it was definitely awesome. So we're gonna get into some more of that today. Welcome back to the show, James. - Thank you, Tyler and Aaron. I'm glad to be here. - Glad to have you back. So I've been checking out some of your interviews on your website, the Cosmic Switchboard. You're doing some incredible work. You're getting into some really deep stuff. I love it. I love the direction you're going with it. I mean, there's so much happening right now. There's no shortage of things to talk about. You just did an episode with Eve Logan where you guys talked about multidimensional portals and these black helicopters. And I'd like to kind of get into the black helicopter subject a little more before we jump into something else. And I was wondering if you could chime in on that and what you think these are, because obviously most of the time they're, I mean, they can be a military black helicopter, but sometimes they can mimic or mask themselves as a UFO or a UFO mask as a helicopter, I should say. - Yeah, that's a great question, Tyler. Black helicopters and mysterious helicopters have been an integral part of the UFO lore since the beginning of, well, both the modern UFO age and the modern helicopter age. I've seen black helicopters up close and I believe the ones that I saw were highly advanced. They're not on the order of battle of these mainstream army helicopter or air force, helicopter units, these are off the shelf, black ops, highly advanced craft. And on one occasion, it's a long story, but I wound up standing directly beneath one of these. And if I had a broom or a rake, I could have leached up and touched the underside of this thing. It was very narrow. It was a nighttime and I did not feel any downdraft from the presumed hilo props, right? One would assume if you were standing beneath a helicopter, you could feel the air coming down from the turning of the blades, but that wasn't the case. I didn't hear any sound other than a slight whirring sound. And what was interesting was standing directly beneath it. I could only infer that there was the helicopter, the matter part of the helicopter directly above me because there were two faint points of light on either side of it. And so I just, I discern that, okay, that must be the body of the craft. And if anyone had stood next to a cobra helicopter gunship, either if they spent time in the military or they went to an air show, they can see for themselves how narrow these cobras are. Well, this craft, this presumed helicopter, seemed to be even narrower than that. And I stood directly beneath this thing and then it moved off down the street and I foolishly chased after it. And on another occasion, I'd gone to the field of my fifth grade elementary school in San Jose, California. I was visiting from San Diego. I'd come up to San Jose for the weekend. And I just followed an intuitive yearning, if you will. And I stroll down to this elementary school, hoping I could see something, it was nighttime. And I saw four or five large triangular craft. These were, I would consider to be man-made, made by the deep black aerospace corporations over elements thereof. There's this notion that if a craft is triangular of necessity, it must be man-made, that's a fallacy. The triangle shape, like the disc shape is a universal arrow form. There are many civilizations besides our own that create triangular shaped craft. And I've seen man-made triangular shaped craft rather small in scale and larger. And these were larger, I would say 90 feet from corner to corner and had a red light beneath the center of the craft on the underside. And on each corner, there were lights. Now, some of them did not have lighted corners. Some only had one or two lighted corners. It almost gave them, when the corner lights were not turned on, these would be white lights. When the corner lights were not turned on, it almost gave it a stealthy aspect 'cause you wouldn't notice it. The only reason I noticed them was I heard this buzzing electrostatic sound, which caused me to look up. Oh, there is one of those large trying in a craft. Point of relevance is, as I'm standing in that field, I see one of these black helicopters buzzing around, right? Beneath these trying in a craft, it was making a, it was making a buzzing sound. It was different, I would say, from the helicopter, I just described a moment ago. And what was interesting was, as this flew around this schoolyard, it occasionally admitted what I can only describe as a lighted rectangular window trailing behind it. I don't know what that was. It was a doorway, it was some kind of energy field, I don't know, but all I know is, as this thing is moving along, it somehow created this rectangular white, what seemed to be a doorway behind it, for lack of a better terminal. It was like a door laying on its side, but it was illuminated and it was trailing this helicopter. And it wasn't an object, it wasn't being towed. It was just like a light that manifested momentarily and then it turned itself off. And then I decided, when I saw the helicopter, well, chances are, they know I'm down there, besides the crews on boarders trying to craft, I decided to be the ace to retreat. Cross this footbridge, went to the street and started running back to my parents' house. And just to the left, I saw, very interesting, if anyone else has seen any of these things, I saw what I can only describe as a large flame. Anyone takes a big lighter and they light it and you see what the flame looks like, we'll scale that up to about 15 feet, okay, high, and it was hovering just above the houses to my left. So there was all kinds of activity going on that night, but the subject is the black kilos. Some of the black kilos, like I mentioned, are lack of a better term terrestrial. And there have been mysterious helicopters, black helicopter sightings that are integral to the whole UFO lore. Many of us that have had ET, UFO, my live experiences have seen helicopters, black helicopters. But there's also the mysterious types of helicopters, which may not be terrestrial and origin. In fact, it's quite likely that some of these helicopters that have been observed, especially when they're doing unusual things, are actually alien craft for lack of a better term, disguised as a helicopter. And Evie Lorgen was discussing this on the podcast that she was on my show with. She talked about how her colleague had observed a portal opened up in the sky and a helicopter come out of it. And that, to me, is a classic example of how these crafts can morph themselves, assume a guise that if someone, a casual observer, happened to look up, they would just think helicopters. They wouldn't think that it's anything other than a normal helicopter. Now, I've had Jeff Brady on the show recently. He's a great guest. And he's got his own podcast in other news radio. And he has photo-documented and videotaped many UFOs which assume the guises of mundane terrestrial objects, such as clusters of balloons, other things, planes. A hidden aspect of the chemtrail phenomena is the fact that some of these planes that are emitting the plumes are not really planes. They've been seeing the shape shift in mid-flight. They've been seeing the shift into a disc or some other shape. So there's a lot more going on. And you go back to the Vietnam War. Along the DMZ, the 17th parallel, the Demilitarized Zone, it separated North and South Vietnam. A lot of the military units, the Marines and the Army that were along the DMZ kept reporting these mysterious helicopters that didn't belong to the American military. It was presumed perhaps they were North Vietnamese, NVA, or perhaps even Chinese, but these helicopters would just buzz around for a long period of time. No one seemed to be able to shoot them down. No one seemed to know where they really came from. It was just a guess that they were at North Vietnamese in origin. It's quite possible that those presumed helicopters were actually these craft in the skies that I'm talking about because the North Vietnamese, as far as I know and as far as people knew at the time, they didn't have suites of helicopters but the Americans did. And also when you look at the the cattle mutilation syndrome, and this is going back decades now, when it looks at the work of Lindomone now and others, unusual animal deaths. And also my colleague, Nish, who I was recently on a podcast with her, she talked about a strange die off of elk in her part of the Western, a Northwestern US. - I wanna get into that. - Yeah, the point being is that cattle mutilations, strange and usual animal deaths are sometimes accompanied by not only UFO sightings but black helicopter sightings. They seem to be, at the very least, cognizant and aware of the UFO alien interest activity directed towards the cattle, towards the cows. They seem to be in the local area prior to during and after some of these cattle mutilation events, likewise, as far as the abduction syndrome, alien abduction syndrome is concerned where people are being abducted by aliens. Once again, these black helicopters seem to be around. So to answer your question, there's a mix. There's definitely black ops helicopters. And I'm not just talking about the night stalkers that work with Delta Force. And that I'm talking about very, very deep black military aerospace helicopter units. Some of these helicopters are quite advanced like I just described at the outset. And I do believe a significant percentage of these black helicopter's related to this phenomena are really alien craft in disguise, if you will. - Right, so a few things, there's a few things I wanna get into, for one, the elk. So if you watched David Pillai, this missing 401, the UFO connection, there's, they made the elk connection as well. Where a lot of these people were going missing where there was high elk activity in the area and then one guy who was even taken and brought back said that when he was on the craft, he was on the craft with some elk that they had taken as well. So they definitely have an interest. And by the way, I think that's a fantastic documentary if you guys haven't seen it. Have you seen that documentary? - No, I have not, but I will, thank you. And I'm really grateful for David Pillai just to be doing this. It's time has come for this kind of information. People like you and I, we've been talking about this kind of thing for a long time. The disappearance is related to non-human life forms, but getting back to the elk, the reason it came up was in Nisha's neck of the woods, she's in the Pacific Northwest. There were, somehow they determined there were 24 elk involved, right? I don't know if they went around counting the legs and the heads and the body parts or what. And then they ascribed the demise of these 24 elk due to a train running over them, which is highly unlikely, okay? Now we've been having all these training derailments and what have you in the recent past. But the notion that 24, again, they're really into numerology, T plus four equals six, et cetera, et cetera. The notion that 24 elk would just be standing on a railroad track and just waiting to get right over, I find that highly unlikely. There were, according to Nisha, UFO reports in the immediate area before this die off. And the eyewitnesses described the aftermath of the animal deaths. They said it was under carnage. All the blood and gore and dismemberment of all these elk made some people physically sick that had seen it. So to me, it doesn't sound so much like they were run over by a train. It sounds to me like perhaps it was due to some alien UFO interference. We know that when UFOs like hover over or go near a cow pasture, for example, the cows tend to cluster up and congregate, I guess safety and numbers kind of thing. My guess is something along those lines happened. They all elk, clustered amongst each other and then the ETs of whoever zapped them and created all this carnage for whatever reason. Now, I hadn't heard what you described to me a moment ago about how the eyewitness had been taken on board and they'd seen elk. I hadn't heard of that story. I've heard stories of people being taken on board and seen cattle, but it doesn't surprise me that they would go after elk or big, beautiful creatures. They've gone after dogs, they've gone after goats, they've gone after cattle. So it wouldn't surprise when they go after elk, but the point of relevance is a whole bunch of these elk somehow they determined that there were 24 of them were just wiped out in a very brutal fashion. Dismembered, but up. - Right, so going back to the overlay, like the holographic overlay, I guess you could say it would make a helicopter or a UFO appear as a helicopter. This is possibly the same type of technology that the reptilians would use to disguise themselves among us. And what's interesting right now is like the entire world illusion that we're living in right now is fading and they're not even hiding. Like you would think they would be trying to hide, but they're not. It's like they don't even care that we know their agenda, that we know that they're there. They know, most of people are just gonna laugh it off like, oh yeah, it's not real, whatever. But I would assume, and this is just speculation, it's a similar technology that the reptilians are using that the craft would use to mask themselves as something else. - Well, there seems to be a relationship, the reptilians in particular, while some of the reptilian groups are quite technologically advanced. There is some debate amongst researchers, alien abduction researchers as to how the reptilians go about assuming a human guise. Some people describe it to some kind of holographic device or projection. I'm of the camp that believes that they just have the means to alter not only their visual image, but also literally change their physical exterior because people have described women who were having intercourse with an individual who began to shape shift. And the woman could feel like the big bumps in the back of the individual, scaly skin the whole bit. So to me, that's not a hologram. To me, that's something physical in our dimension. So at least some of these reptilians have the means to shift back and forth. And there are probably certain means by which the reptilians use to maintain their human form. And maybe as time goes on, as the fundamental consequences are changing, they're having more difficulty holding their human shape, at least some of them. - Right. I mean, that would be a whole cocktail of things. I'm sure that keep that illusion going. It's frequencies, blood, drinking from, even, I forgot what else I was gonna say, but it's a number of things. I don't think it's any just, there's a number of components that may-- - Yes, I agree. - To maintain the illusion. - I have a question really quick on me. So why do you think they would disguise the craft as a helicopter or plane rather than just cloaking outright, rather than just becoming invisible? Why do you think they would do that? - I'm not sure as far as the motivations are concerned because that's a very good point. With the advent of infrared night vision equipment, people are seeing all kinds of craft at night fly around, which are not visible in the visible spectrum. So if that's a question, then why do they have to go to this extent where they have to conceal something in plain view, disguise its appearance, I don't know, to pursue some kind of agenda. Those of us that have had these experiences over time, some of us were dogged by helicopters. I mean, I had people stay with me in San Diego and they would remark to me just how often they would hear helicopters in our neighborhood flying around, sometimes hovering right over the roof. One time I was on the phone with Eve Lorgan. The night before, she was gonna fly out of an airport in Orange County to go to Memphis, Tennessee. And then I was gonna fly out of Lindbergh Field in San Diego to go to the same conference, right? And as we're talking, both of us experienced helicopters right over our houses. So I'm on the phone. You can hear a helicopter right over. I could hear a helicopter right over my roof. Evie at her end has got a helicopter right over her roof. And we're talking about all the different things we're gonna be discussing at the conference coming up that we're gonna fly out towards. So either that was deep black military just mucking with us, or it was something else. It was like ET's or something mucking with this. Point meeting is that I think that the helicopter has kind of attained this subconscious status. So those of us in this field, even at a surface military level, we think back to the Vietnam War, very much about helicopter war. There's a militant aspect to helicopters. There's an intrusive aspect. There's this surveillance monitoring aspect. We were familiar with police helicopters, what have you. So almost, my intuitive feeling is, they assume the guise of helicopters A, because they're very common one day in terrestrial craft. Secondly, there's kind of an ominous nature to them. Like, unless you're on like some kind of tourist helicopter flying over Waikiki or something. - Right. - So people like us, it takes on helicopters, take on ominous connotation. - It's like a psychological thing. - Yes. - Psychological, yeah. - In short, I should have said that. It's kind of a long-winded principle. - It's psychological warfare, essentially. - Right. - And you know what's interesting, the next webinar we're getting ready to do for our Patreon is Voice of God, Mind Control. And one of the common themes with the Voice of God technology is the black helicopters. And then even in some of the little illustrations, it shows a helicopter parked outside someone's house using that technology. It goes right through the walls of the house. And they aren't just putting a voice in people's heads. They can give them a false dream, a false ET experience, whatever the case may be. - Absolutely. - So they're using that manner too. And they also hide under the guise of like a communications van or something like that, which I believe I've actually been a victim of at one point, walking through a park. I'd noticed this van would like move, every time I was going around this trail, this van would be in a different parking lot. I saw four different parking lots while I was going around. And I happened to break out with this really bad rash, these hives that day while I was just in the middle of that walk. And I didn't even put two and two together until months later, but I'm like, I wonder if they were for some reason targeting me. But that's one way they do it. But I definitely know the black helicopters show up and along with this voice are used along with the Voice of God technology. - Yes, absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind that some of these helicopters were directly involved in the targeted individual syndrome in the manipulation, harassment, abduction of my labs and other project people. Absolutely. And some of these are loaded down with, like as you said, high tech gear. I've spoken to people and I've heard accounts of, like sometimes these mysterious blacks of urban's and crown vix would show up at a UFO site, seated windows even in the middle of the night. But when the windows are rolled down, some people would look onto the dashboard and it's not a dashboard, it's like a control panel, right? So, and people have been taken abducted and pulled inside some of those vans you described. And they describe to me that the interior of the vans would be just aligned with high tech equipment. So, I mean, they come loaded for bear, whether it's an aerial craft like a helicopter or it's a van or a crown bit. - Right. I want to shift gears just a little bit. I heard you, I forget what interview I was listening to of yours. You guys were talking about universities and college professors being used in tangent with the agencies, FBI, CIA, to recruit students. And I just, it's fascinating to me, you know, I think there's a reptilian consciousness working through some of these professors and I would just like to get your talk from that. - Oh, yeah. Yes, it's a well-established means of recruitment. You go back to World War II, British intelligence and then American intelligence, they routinely hired professors in the various fields of study. And these professors worked in the intelligence field, whether it was for code breaking or whether it was for running double agents, whatever the case may be. And then they would tap, i.e. recruit people from within the universities. The British tended to look for people of a certain breeding, the whole bloodline they were stocklessly thing. So they would look for, you know, likely recruits from certain families, certain bloodlines, certain wealth backgrounds, if you will. And then they would pass them, depending on their aptitude and the proficiency, the things they were good at. And then they would put them in the intelligence community to fight against the Germans at times or whoever. And after World War II, that process continued. It never stopped. So these universities, especially the poison ivy league ones in America, but also Stanford and other ones, the UCLA and the UC system in particular, were recruiting grounds for people. Because these universities, many of them were funded with defense contracts. A lot of them were involved in behavioral studies research. Think of Dr. Lowe as a Joe in West in UCLA, right? And he was intimately involved with my controlling Patty hers. All these different people, Joe in West kept showing up as like a court appointed, somebody laughing 'cause it's funny, I'm just laughing 'cause it's ridiculous. Court appointed expert witness, you know, to study the psychology of these my control people, many of whom he had himself my control. So this nexus between the universities, the talent spotters amongst the professors and the college staff looking for likely recruits and what they've done over time. If you remember that guy who allegedly shot up the Virginia Tech University, Chu, I think he was a South Korean national originally. That was a classic example of a guy whose family was by South Korean standards, well off, had connections with South Korean intelligence that were brought to America. And Chu eventually enrolled in that school. He was probably plugged into some kind of my control project. And then either he was the real shooter or one of the shooters or the Patsy for wiping out allegedly all these students in Virginia Tech, right? And then of course they find all these videos and all these manifestos, the guys apparently written, right? But point being is that that's a classic example of a guy who came from a foreign family, South Korean, it was tapped, identified by intelligence even before they left Korea, brought over to the US and the guy which plugged into this my control program. So they cast a wide net of these universities and these talent spotters. And now, if you look at the communist model, how they do it and the cost of communist and basically Saphyrian model, you look at the Cambridge spies, for example, classic example, where the four predecessors of the KGB and then the GRU also, the Soviet military intelligence, they knew that these sons of these established aristocratic families going to be tapped and within the way of their system works are eventually gonna get into the good colleges, the good preparatory schools first, the good colleges and then they wind up in the foreign office, they wind up in MI6, et cetera, et cetera. So what the Soviets said was, why don't we recruit them while they're still in college so when they get out of college, they work for us, right? - Right, I definitely know like the whole infrastructure is set up and the steer people into these programs and the recruitment, the whole recruitment process. But the whole point being is that the reptilian consciousness is working through these people. These entities are working through them and then that's the real issue we have here. Even among people within like the quote, quote, truth or community and influencers, I think they're being affected by the same type of thing nowadays. - Well, yes, what they used to refer to as the spirit of accusation, right? These people that were under some kind of demonic, malign influence and they're, they're accusing everybody of everything, they're wanting to put these big scarlet letters on people and then hang them out to dry, right? Well, we see that all the time in our field. These accusations of this person or that person's controlled opposition, it wouldn't surprise me if the term controlled opposition, just like the term conspiracy theory was created by someone within the intelligence community because it's such a like far reaching slur, it could apply to anyone or anything. So if someone disagrees with you or doesn't necessarily believe what you believe, oh, they're controlled opposition or if someone becomes successful or they have a large following or they sell like nutrient supplements on their website, oh, they're in it for the money controlled opposition, right? So we get a lot of that. And what it does is that it plays on whatever unresolved traumatic issues that they've got, whatever kind of malign entity, quite frankly, influences working through them, this whole controlled opposition thing takes on a life of its own. I could play the same game, oh, you don't know that reptilians control planet Earth, you're a controlled opposition. I could play the same exact game, but that would be silly on my part, right? Because only so many people at this point are aware of that level of deception and control. So what we're seeing once again, and we see this play out in many different ways, they always strive to achieve an emotional reaction within people. Let me give you an example. There's a difference between, let's say, a virus or a pathogen or something, okay, in our hypothetical example. Let's say that it has never been isolated from a living patient, a living person supposedly afflicted with whatever the pathogen is. Okay, that's point one. Point two is, let's say that there's evidence, like Dr. David Martin has proven to my satisfaction that patents had been taken out for the alleged cure for these pathogen, right? And let's say that he's satisfied along with others, that this pathogen that we're all supposed to be scared of is nothing more than a computer generated gene sequence, okay? That is not the same as saying that pathogens don't exist, okay? Those are two different things at work that people conflate them. For the point now, where if someone says, oh, you know, I've got this bug, X, Y, Z, oh, well, you don't really have a bug. You're promoting these falsehoods, these bugs don't exist. These bugs are just a computer generated gene sequence, right? So what they do is they can't see the forest for the trees. These pathogens do exist. People really do get sick from being around sick people, as symptomatic people. Something is really going around, but the divisions and artificial structures have been set up to the point where even if, like a trutherist says, well, I went traveling the other day and I flew on a plane and I came back and I'm really sick, there's these people that are saying, oh, no, you're not really sick. There's nothing really going around, right? Which is nonsense. There's things that are going around all over the place. Pathogens do exist, but see what they do, they can't separate the research of what some people have done with what's actually going around in the real world, you see? So I mean, that's probably as clear as mud, that example that I gave you. But that's just an example in the recent past of how these fault lines, these artificial fault lines, have been created and we see this with the flat earth, we see this with nuclear weapons don't exist, nuclear weapons are oaks. I think what's happened, fellows, is that so many of these people in the so-called truth community, I'm not talking about the ones that are outright deceivers, outright deception artists. I'm talking about ones that just, they don't have an intuitive background anymore. They don't have the ability to suss out bogus from real information. They have to keep searching and listening to countless podcasts and watching countless interviews, to try to make their minds up about something. They've lost the ability or they never had the ability to intuitively suss out whether something is bogus or not. And that's the problem. So when people say that this is a hoax, and that is a buzzword and a trigger word, if there ever was one, this is a hoax, this is Saya, that's controlled opposition. For people that have already at a very deep level been personally hurt, either by those that they trusted and loved and/or hurt by the institutions that have been created that ostensibly are here for our benefit or to help us. When people have been hurt and backstabbed to that extent, when they hear trims like hoax, Saya, distraction, I mean, there was a guy on, I didn't even watch the video, but the thumbnail said, oh, the January six videos are just a nothing burger, right? It's not a nothing burger to the political prisoners who have been kept and tortured every day since January 6th. It's not a nothing burger that the video does exist of this two shaman guy being escorted to the Capitol building. That's not a Saya and then what they did also, for example, when the whole pizza gate thing erupted. Oh, pizza gate is a distraction. How is it a distraction? Hillary Clinton is directly involved. How is that a distraction? - Supposing truth is never a distraction, it's exposed. - That's what's going on. I don't even know if I answered your question, right? - It doesn't matter, I love it, keep going. - Yeah, but the point being is that and now what we've seen, and I'm glad actually we went in this direction, is you and I in error know that aliens are real, UFOs are real, you did the UFOs for Dummies thing, which is great, I'm really glad you guys did that. - Thank you. - What they've done now, because you see, it's ironic, but a lot of these people that are chanting bleeding in sheep fashion, blue bean, blue bean, this is all just a distraction, this is a fake alien invasion, what's happened is, and it's ironic, okay? See, the ones who bleed blue bean all the time and don't believe in aliens, they get this, they trusted the science, mm-hmm? All those years that there's science professors in high school and in college, and it's EDB people, we're telling them that aliens don't exist, this is between star systems are too vast, impossible to get here, a total misapplication and misunderstanding of OCAM's razor. OCAM's razor actually goes the other direction. If all these crafting beings are being reported by countless people down to the ages, the simplest explanation is these beings from other worlds figure out a way to get here, okay? - Right. - They've gotten here, they've established bases, and they've been here all along, that's OCAM's razor in a nutshell, but their argument is based on the religion of scientism. Well, science, essentially, the same, science tells us they can't get here, you know, because the technology doesn't exist, well, it doesn't exist here that we're aware of, but it does exist here, in the deep black air or space corporations in a deep black military. - Exactly. - The point being is that they follow the science, not only that, but they allowed themselves to be unwitting dupes, because with denial comes ridicule, that was a two and also outright harassment assassination, depending on, you know, the case, but denial and debunking from paid academics, again, the concept of academics, professors, scientists who were actively debunking UFOs for so long, on the one hand, but also the ridicule factor. - Self-aware authority. - Self-aware authority. - Yeah, when someone sticks their head up above, we've seen this play out in very different, a number of different fields, whether it's, you know, health medicine or whatever the case may be, or 9/11. There's always going to be these people pop up, say, that's a crazy conspiracy theorist, I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist. Well, that's been going on for decades with UFO witnesses and AT witnesses, the ridicule factor. So these blue beomers, as I call them, not only did they follow the science and had to follow the science work the last few years, not only did they follow the science and say, with complete a priori misunderstanding of the whole UFO alien syndrome and believe, look at face value, what the academic said, but they went along with the ridicule factor. So they became unwitting assets to this wicked, evil, depopulating control system, essentially a non-human control system. That's the irony at work here. So all these truth was out there, screaming blue bean, this is a distraction. They followed the science, they'll never admit it, but they followed the bogus science. And also, you look at the people who don't consider themselves truthers wouldn't be considered truthers by us. They were just your average everyday skeptic. They're in a quandary now, but because they believe the official stories of 9/11, of JFK, of the last few years. - Right. And then something that they've been told to not believe and not only not believe, but to ridicule anyone who does believe in, i.e. aliens and UFOs, now they're being told, oh, it's a, it's an existential threat. These balloons are a reminder to Steve Martin in the jerk movie, the cans, the cans, you know, the balloons, the balloons. - Yeah. - So we have that going on. Is it a distraction? Yes, it's a distraction, okay? But there's a whole backstory, which I'm glad you guys are bringing out. Like, there's a book that's just come out called "Non-Human" by Gary Azeltyne. I've had him on my show. It'll be coming out pretty soon, but he has written up till this point the definitive book about "Red Lush and Forest" R.A.F. Benwaters, Woodbridge. And that was the case when there was actually a landed UFO craft, aliens got out of it. The military people were there. It was filmed with the state-of-the-art movie cameras at the time. This is December, 1980, bulky kind of camera, a gear to be sure compared to what we have now. But it was filmed and documented. The whole thing, there were dozens and dozens of witnesses. Finally, that's starting to come out, but they want to keep the attention riveted on so-called tic-tacs, on balloons. You see what I mean? So the real nitty-gritty, the real cases that you can really sink your teeth into, that lets us know that there is a non-human force here influencing, malignly, indeed, the human race, that gets left by the wayside. Instead, we have blue beam, we have balloons, we have jet shooting down balloons. I mean, it's reached the point of absurdity, really. - So a few things. - It has. It has, so it is a distraction on one level because we had all the train derailments, environmental health crisis happening, and all the news we report on is these craft in the sky that were being shot down and feeding us that narrative. So in that regard, yeah. But I do understand and agree with where you're coming from. Also, the Vendelson Forest incident. I know Carrie Cassidy talked about, she had interviewed some of those whistleblowers, or witnesses, I should say, not whistleblowers. And she's noticing a phenomenon now some of the witnesses are suddenly changing their story. Or not wanting to comment on it anymore. And it's really interesting that her, either they're being threatened, or just something is going on wire or mind controlled, why are these people suddenly changing their story? It's just another interesting. - It is. And there are some people, they never changed your tune, Larry Warren, and now retired Staff Sergeant Adrian Bistinza. Bistinza essentially confirmed Larry Warren's story without saying so. He confirmed in so many ways that, and this was in a interview, the three-way phone conversation between Linda Mullen, how Larry Warren and Adrian Bistinza, where Bistinza basically agreed that he had seen the same thing Larry had seen without saying what he'd seen, that that makes sense, right? - Yeah, I saw the same thing. And basically Adrian Bistinza said that Larry was several feet in front of him, closer to the craft, closer to the beams. And so when Adrian Bistinza says, "I saw the same thing Larry did," right? Well, he's basically confirming that what Larry saw was aliens and he saw the same thing. And another thing also, as far as all the tic-tac videos and all the pilot reports, if you remember the National Press Club conference in Washington, D.C., I think Steven Greer put it together. - 2001, yeah. - Yeah, exactly, alone, as far as I know, alone amongst all the other witnesses, there were supposed to be another witness there, a good friend of mine, I don't know for many years, I know a story inside out, Guy Kirkwood. In 1954, he was part of a four-plane detachment, specially trained to fly back and forth between I think it was Salt Lake City Airport and I may be wrong about this, but Larry Air Force Base in Colorado, but it could be wrong about the latter. Anyway, they were tasked with flying back and forth, hoping to get an intercept of UFOs and get the intercept on gun camera footage, right? Which they did on a few occasions. Well, he was slated, he was asked by Steven Greer to show up at the conference in Washington, D.C. The day before he was gonna fly out, he'd get some mysterious phone call and he's told if you show up to that conference in D.C., we're gonna burn your house down, okay? He lived in East County, San Diego, in El Cajon, at the time I lived in Claremont, another suburb in San Diego. So the point of relevance and the significance of that is, he would have been telling the audience and reporters, however few showed up at the time, that back in 1954, they already had gun camera footage, especially trained mission to intercept and photo document, the intercept of UFOs, it was a specific asking that this unit was trained to do, okay? So that preceded by 70 years thereabouts, all this infrared footage, all this videotape from the Navy pilots, et cetera, et cetera. So hindsight is 2020, but it doesn't, now when I think about it, it makes sense that he would get the threats compared to everyone else, because they didn't want this notion getting out. Of course, military pilots would be the first in the disclosure process to be the ones, the point people, if you will, for getting the disclosure out. - But they didn't want that disclosure to come from a pilot back in 1954, okay? So too many people would believe it, because it's coming from military pilots and military sources. - And we're programmed to think that these military pilots are the most credible, or any of the pilot in general, so that you have credibility there. - Yeah, we destroyed their agendas of what they didn't want, anyone taking any of this seriously or thinking it's real at that point. - Right, well also, by keeping it at the tic-tac level, and even that tic-tac video, it's completely taken out of context, because in the old days, we used to call them cigar-shaped craft, barrel-shaped, cylindrical shape, now because I guess the recommend is common these days. It's a tic-tac, right? But at the outset of that video, what they don't talk about is these so-called tic-tacs were hovering just above the wave tops, and beneath just beneath the waves was what seemed to be a large submerged craft, okay? So what we used to call in the old days, a mother craft, it was very common in the old days, '40s, '50s and '60s, to see a number of dish-shaped crafts come in and out of the cigar-shaped craft, okay? So what we have here at the outset of that video, which they never talked about, is there is a submerged, seemingly large cylindrical type object, and just above it were these tic-tacs. So they don't talk about that aspect of it, right? And what I've heard people say is, oh, these are drones, that's just the most ridiculous thing. They're gonna spend all this time and effort to give these fantastic capabilities to drones, where the radar operators said they were disappeared in one place, and then wind up 20 miles away instantaneously, you're gonna put that kind of technology into a drone, right? - Right, it's on the face of it, it's absurd, right? - You just reminded me of something I wanted to mention earlier, you brought a blue beam, which I do think the blue beam holographic technology does exist. - Oh, yeah, absolutely it does, you know, the way you were talking before you were acting like, you know, it was insane that that's the case, but I do think it's possible that some of the craft that they want us to see could be their blue beam or holographic technology, just so they can give us that narrative, you know? It's something that we have to at least consider. - Oh, I agree with you, I agree with you. It's not all one thing, you know, my point, just to interject and I would like to hear your thoughts and continue, but it's like, we live in a reptilian sphere of influence, so for people to say that it's all, aliens are all fake, that's like putting the cart before the horse, because these reptilians and other beings have controlled this planet for so long, right? So anyway, please continue. - No, so you're right, yeah, I see where your argument is that the people who are saying it's blue beam are trying to also say that aliens don't exist, right? But something you brought up in one of your previous interviews was the muting of consciousness. And I'd like you to go into that a little further and explain to our audience what you mean by that when you say they're trying to mute our consciousness. Well, in the old days, a well-rounded holistic type person, and in the old days, science and mysticism were two sides of the same coin, cut from the same cloth. There was an understanding, and also, back then, a lot of people understood the nature of ether physics. This is before Einstein, before general relativity, before special relativity, this notion of, they keep trying to come up with names of it, right? So, the theory of everything. But generally, people back in the day, and you didn't have to be a shaman or a medicine person, a medicine man, medicine woman to know this, right? That everything was connected, that we are a microcosm of a larger macrocosmic multiverse, essentially, right? All that stuff was taken for granted. Now, what's happened is we've gone from that understanding, that sensibility to, you know, pushing Gardasil vaccines on young boys, even though young boys don't have cervixes, right? So, the people pushing that, it's like they flunked basic anatomy. But because of the muting of consciousness, the shame-based trauma background so many of us have, where we can't find the voice to speak up and say, "Ah, that's nonsense, boys don't have cervixes." Okay? This followed a leader, shame-based, people pleasing mentality. And you look at, we talked again, earlier, we talked about the malign influence of the schools or the universities, what have you. If you look at what they've done, just fragmenting the consciousness, fragmenting the logical thinking part of the brain and replacing it with all this emotionalism, if you look like a common core math problem, right? Like two plus two equals four. But then what they do is they have all these commas, all these parentheses and they over-complicate things. That's an example of fragmenting and muting consciousness. And if you look at how the media is presented and how entertainment is presented, everything is in these soundbites. Nothing is presented in full form. We're in the old days and I'm old enough where I did research pre-internet and I still do. You have to get your nose into the books, get back into the archival research, the form of background, understanding of all this. But if the very nature of the school system has been subverted into not only indoctrination, but also to engender this highly emotional reaction out of the students who will eventually, if they survive this whole process, become adults. And everything has an emotional component. So thinking, logical reasoning, common sense is left by the wayside. Instead, it's replaced by an emotional reaction. Now, this is the end result of this process of muting consciousness. Whereas before, like ancient man or ancient woman would look around and they would just recognize by sight all the different star constellations. They didn't need a compass or a map to get around. They can go on to high seas, you know, in a little boat and still get around, right? Nowadays, GPS, phone navigation systems, people are so reliant on the system that they will have a difficult time functioning when we have this expected breakdown of society. And we've been seeing this with the trained or elements, the destruction of the food distribution centers, the threat of nuclear war, et cetera, et cetera. And boy, howdy, if certain critical financial institutions go down that are responsible for maintaining the EBT card system, electronic benefit transfer, food stamp cards, if those institutions go down, you're gonna see mass riding on the streets and then forget about any kind of reason or common sense or, you know, higher logic. Then it's just gonna be mass chaos and that's what they want. You know, you're in a Luciferian, satanically controlled world when confusion, rage, and unrequited rage in particular is the norm. It is what passes for research, what passes for news reporting. If you notice, the news reporting is all very salt, a linsky, I just directed at certain people, certain institutions, certain ways of thinking, traditional ways of thinking, marriage, love, family, all that stuff is considered like extra misthought nowadays, right? So that's what I mean by muting of consciousness where we have been detached generally from that intuitive divine source connection where you can look at something and just intuitively know that it's not right, but there's something wrong with it. Instead, what they've done is, and this goes back to the supplanting of symbol language, which speaks to us at a soul level with alphabet language because alphabet language is inherently a left-brained construct. And if you are making the language and you create a whole bunch of taboos and a whole bunch of dogmas and you create indoctrination systems, religions, whatever the case may be, think about the early ancient astronomer priesthoods, right? And you think of the Latin mass where you'd have these Celtic people sitting there and the mass would be in Latin. It's like, what the hell is God even saying? That's an extreme example what I'm talking about. So the intuitive symbol language which speaks to us at a soul level has been replaced by an alphabet language, which is inherently left-brained construct, but rather than give us real information, they give us dogmas, taboos, all this other stuff. And so if you look at people today, there are people I know that are so calming and infested. And these are young people that, just like that Soviet defector said decades ago that Yuri Besumov, I can't even remember his last name, but he said something to the effect that once the moralization occurs, it doesn't matter how much proof, photographic evidence documentation you provide, it will not matter anymore. I would go further and say that no matter what proof you provide, it will engender an emotional reaction out of these people. And that's the whole idea. Just one quick example and it's time I got left. Hillary Clinton said, you can probably still see the video on YouTube. We, the US government, get our marching orders from the council on foreign relations. What does that mean, right? What do you mean the US government gets us marching orders from the council on foreign relations? Either when you try to explain that to somebody who's been thus demoralized. It's going to engender a negative reaction because they lack the intellectual capacity and Barbie Brothel, like my mentor, went further. She said most people by that stage, she told me this 20, 30 years ago, she said most people today simply don't have the neural capacity for the neural network to understand any of this, this being this whole manipulation. And another quote, Alan Greenspan said on TV, he said, we're not, the federal reserve is not part of the US government. We don't, we don't get instructions from the US government. What does that mean? If you try to explain that to somebody who's been excreted from this indoctrination system, are you going to get as a negative emotional reaction? Because they literally don't have the neural pathways set up to understand any of this, right? So you try to take the time and say explain that it's a private corporation that controls the financial system of an entire world, that just conflicts so much for their programming. Again, you get an emotional reaction. That's what I mean by the beauty of consciousness. And so when they mute consciousness on the one hand, and then they keep us in this lower bandwidth of fear, of trepidation, and also, you know, vulgarity, perversity, all this other stuff, that is right for exploitation. So I don't know if I answered your question, but you know, when one talks about muting of consciousness, that's what I think of. And the one last point about that is, and, you know, God bless them. I mean, I'm a humanitarian, I believe in divinity, and I have hope for everyone. But when you know, when you get around normal people, quote unquote, that don't know what we know, and I don't say this in the lead sense, but they just, and I'm not one that dwells on negativity or fear or anything like that. I just like to be aware of what's going on, like a real intel analyst. And then when I get around these people that are completely oblivious to this, or any of this, you know, my heart goes out to them. I feel sorry for them that they've been, the consciousness is muted to such an extent, they're not even aware of the nature of the multiple threat environment they're in. A newborn fawn knows that it's in a dangerous environment. A newborn chicken can tell by the shadow reflected off, the shadow blocking the sun if a hawk is flying overhead, right? And it has an instinctive recoil, it has an instinctive fear. Humans, by and large, have been detached from that internal guidance radar system. And that's one of the biggest problems. So what's gonna happen is going forward, we're gonna be hit with more and more disasters, more more catastrophes, et cetera, et cetera. And these people will literally be like, you know, dear in the headlights, and they're gonna be the ones that demand all this austerity, all these strictures in order to save the planet, et cetera, et cetera. - Yeah, we have, you know, they're also attacking our attention span. They want everybody, they don't want us to be able to sustain a thought long enough to even question these things. And that's why you have these 10 to 15 to one minute long videos past a minute. People are like, okay, next, you know, TikTok, Instagram, all of the social media platforms are adopting them now. So that's another aspect of it. - It's instant gratification, it's the dopamine here. - Right, right. But there is an element to this that I would like to end on is that there is a large number of people waking up and seeing and doing something about this. And I'd like to just, in wrapping this up, kind of focus on that, like what people can do and the positive movement is simultaneously taking place. - Well, the direction that I'm coming from is the fact that a planet Earth is under a malign alien influence. We are in a reptilian sphere of influence and is playing itself out manifesting in so many ways, the perversities and abominations that are being presented as the norm. And if you disagree with that norm, then you're an extremist, right? So people should take note of that and say, okay, where does this come from? What's the origin of all this? And take a note from what the ancients and the mystics from time immemorial have told us that there are these non-human beings that are pulling the strings and manipulating humanity for their ends. If one looks at it from that standpoint, then everything starts to make sense. Like what happened in East Palestine, Ohio, and that's an attack on the entire biosphere, on the entire ecosystem. Everything down to the microbial level is being negatively impacted by that. So to suggest that it's just power met bankers that are behind this, that's cladding the issue. They're over-complicating things. Again, OCam's razor comes into play because clearly the force that's behind such things as Fukushima, the Gulf platform, Horizon disaster, East Palestine, Ohio, they want to destroy life as we know it. So when we can unite as people, as humans, and say, okay, now we understand we're up against this non-human force. They've been telling us this all along in their movies and Netflix and everything else. Then we can put aside our petty differences, right? And then we can say, okay, now we can start goal setting. Now we can start implementing the changes that we need to see in order to throw off this cosmic bachelor's, throw off this yoke of non-human control. I do believe that a certain segment of humanity will survive all of this. I'm absolutely certain of that. I'd like to see more people survive, the more the merrier. But if people keep fighting amongst themselves and seeing others, the authority figures, define others as their mortal enemies, the Putin or Trump or anyone else, then they're gonna miss the boat because this is non-human and origin. If we band together and realize that we humans are up against the hostile alien force, we can overcome this. Look, there's nowhere else I'd rather be Aaron and Tyler. This is where it's all going down. If someone said to me, okay, at the outset of all this, Bartley, you have a choice. You can sip this one out and opt out in some higher dimensional plane and not have to worry about this or get into the flight. This is where I, where else am I gonna be, right? - Right, right. - Where it's all going down. So, you know, that's the attitude that I'd like to get across to others. But hey, thank you to you guys for doing the work you're doing. And also, as far as one quick point before I gotta go, you talked about the voice to skull, the helicopters involved in the mind control. I've got a, I just interviewed a fantastic guest that was introduced to me by Jeff Brady, the four mentioned Jeff Brady. David Case, he had invented a computer, 'cause he was an electron of genius, basically. He invented a computer that worked on photonic light principles. He took it to the patent office. Within days, he started getting blasted by Tinnitus in the ears and was loud, screeching in his head. Anyway, long story short, he created a sound frequency which negates that. And I've, he's been on Jeff Brady's show in the recent past in other news radio. You can find the interview and he's gonna be coming out on my show pretty soon. So that's a guide that I think would be great on your show because it's just one of those sleeping tigers that were woken up. It's like, you know, the topic and just remotely, electronically harassing like anyone else. No, he turned around and he created a device that's helping countless other targeted individuals overcome this. So the tide has turned fellas. We're making significant strides. - Yeah, I definitely wanna watch that interview and I'd love to know as much about that device as possible because I can add it to the webinar. It would be a great way to end the webinar to talk about, you know, a solution. So thank you so much for joining us. This was great. Aaron, did you wanna add anything before we wrap this up? - No, just thank you so much. Yeah, just, you do a wealth of information and you do an amazing work. So keep it up. - Thank you, Aaron. Thank you, Tyler. - Right, thank you so much. Guys, go check out James's. Well, actually I'll let you tell people how to find you but Cosmic Switchboard is your website, right? - Yeah, thecosmitswitchboard.com. You can find me on Twitter under @cosmitswitch29 and you can find me on Facebook, James Bartley 148. So I guess there's 147 James Bartley's before me. So James Bartley 148 on Facebook. - All right, perfect. And we'll put your information in the description below. Guys, come hang out with us in Grafton and May. If you can make it, we'd love to see their tickets are still available at journey2truthcon.com. Thank you so much, James, for joining us. Until next time, have a great evening. Good night. - Thank you. (dramatic music) - There was a CIA director named William Colby who in the 1980s said we'll know our disinformation campaigns are successful when everything the American people believe is fake. - When we realize how powerful we are, when we set our intentions and we realize that we aren't just this, we are just these multi-dimensional light beings and time is an illusion and, you know, it's everything's a perception, then you can go forward and backwards and embody it and just pop out and go and do this work. You can do amazing things when we set the right intentions to do it. - And I said, this is us on this plane. You know, that's what this is, we're going to the moon. And you say, this thing is a lot older than you think it is and we've been going to the moon a long time. But I wrote on it, I knew that we went to the moon. And so I always knew there was a base on the moon from a young age. - And our DNA is a complex recording system of the history of the entire universe, the history, you know, of everything, that not just this timeline that we know, but multiple timelines of reality. - There are a total of like different categories of planets in the universe. We people on earth, we are living on category one planet like elementary school students. And the field, they're living on category nine planet like college professors. So they have been really guiding us throughout history. - To help them let us know that this facility under the Sandy Mountain is considered an information station for interstellar travelers coming to the planet. They tell us that their facility was retrofitted into the ancient tunnel system that already existed. - And as far as the bending of space time continuum, I've had something like that happen. And what seemed like about a five minute encounter has been four and a half hours of missing time. And I was completely conscious. And what are you dealing with a type three, type four, type five of civilizations that can work with the different coexisting timelines? All bets are off, man. (laughing) - You know, every time we have Bigfoot activity out there, we're having ETs and orbs and stuff like that. We have a lot of the stuff documented. As a matter of fact, I'm a member of three different teams and I work with people from all over the country out in the field. And we actually have documented a portal, something that we consider to be a portal opening. And we sent two of our team members inside of it and it disappeared and then came back out. - I would suggest that we take it one step further and say humanity has never known who we are. We've always been in the fucking full matrix and one step further, perhaps we could say that we're in a consciously controlled state of hypnosis. In other words, are the thought control matrix creators constantly bombarding us with frequencies that keep us from being telepathic, that keep us from remembering who we are, the thought control matrix was set up. And we have never known our potential, our power, our beauty, our incredible connection. - It makes no sense at all. There is no reason for it other than the programming that we've received for generations because it's all about order. It's all about listen to your elders, listen to the teachers, listen to the adults, listen, listen, listen, listen. And what that does is it dims the light of the child and it makes them feel like they don't have a voice. And why that's designed that way by the dark side and that's in the system is so that they grow up and they just listen to and they do what they're told and they're good little boys and good little girls and they lose their sense of self. They lose their north, their true north. So many adults are walking around in this world. They don't know who they are. - So the planet itself is now beginning to split. It's beginning to divide again into a higher vibrational earth and a lower vibrational earth. And the race of man is dividing with it. And we're becoming less and less aware of one another. And over time, what will happen and I don't know how long this will be, one world will have all higher vibrational beings on it and the other one will all be third dimensional beings and we will not perceive each other anymore. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (dramatic music) [BLANK_AUDIO]