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EP 134 - Jaci Pearse - Experimental Programs & Off - Planet Experiences

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Jaci Pearse: Medium/Exeperiencer
Jaci Pearse is a medium and spiritual connections teacher with memories of off-planet experiences and lifelong contact with extraterrestrials. A psychic since childhood, Jaci had an extreme expansion of her connection abilities at the age of 29 - which she attributes largely to her relationship to an ET race. She shares her abilities professionally through one-on-one sessions and teaching programs for those looking to connect to the unseen world and enhance their own abilities. 
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I don't know, Erin and I are speaking Friday night, the first night of the conference. So I know there are day passes available. So if you want to see us, make sure that you get there for the first day. Tickets are only $333 for the weekend. That's not too bad, especially for a full weekend conference. Yeah, not at all. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. So we hope to see you guys there. You guys know the promo codes Journey to Truth 10 for 10% off the Hopefarm CBD. And then for 15% off our Teespring merch, CGI Joe. And that'll get you 15% off anything in a Teespring store for now until we change that. And then as you guys know, I'm the radiation balancer 10% off with promo code truth all caps. Tonight we are joined by Jackie Pierce. Some of you guys may recognize her from talks with Tony. So she co-hosts a show with Tony Rodriguez, the SSP whistleblower. We've had him on the show a few times and it's really awesome stuff. I've been watching their show and I can always tell that she has stuff to say. And according to Tony, she has some really cool experiences to share. So we're going to get into that tonight. She is a medium an experiencer. I think you're what you call spiritual connections teacher. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a lot to unpack here. I'm excited to hear what you have to say. I don't think you've done many interviews before. So this is this is all new information for us as well. And we're glad to have you on the show. Well, thank you both for having me on. It's really cool to be here. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Been looking forward to this. So I really want to know about your off planet experiences. And but I also would like you to give a brief background who you actually are and how you got into how you found your way into even hosting a show with an SSP whistleblower because I know you have a very scientific background and you're acting as a bridge kind of between the scientific like scientific community. I feel like you're you're almost bringing credibility to the idea of a secret space program because if we can get their credible scientists on board with this information, a lot more people will pay attention to something like that. So I think I find it very interesting. Yeah, thanks for saying that it's like a big goal of mine is to I always say normalize contact but also talk about like how it is possible and just because someone's not aware of how it's possible. You're also not aware of how a text message works, but it works and you trust it. So we've got to like expand that a little bit. So thanks for saying that. So how does a text message work? I know vibration, it's way, you know, it's what we're all doing. Yeah, I feel like you asked me a question and there are a couple of questions. So where would you like me to start? Well, basically, just give us a background on how you ended up. Doing a show with the medium and how you ended up doing a show with Tony. Just just all of it laid on us. So well, Tony happened because I was looking for answers of what was going on for myself, both like in the medium realm, but also in these weird. I didn't even think they were memories at the time. I thought that my medium skills were bringing in visions that I couldn't correlate to any person. Like it just didn't occur to me like, what if this is a memory? And then I was watching Gaia and I saw Tony's show and it was one of those moments where he said something and I just paused the show and I just sat there and it was like, holy crap, do you cuss on the show? Oh, yeah, where I was. So I'll try, but I was just like, holy fuck. Oh my God. And I reached out to Tony and I thought there's no way this guy's even going to get back to me, but he did. And then he encouraged me to do a few things, like create a timeline, you know, the things that he recommends or we recommend in the recall course or the show, but then we just started chatting offline. And Tony was like, you know, we really have to just record these and put it out there, which we started to do with, we were calling it coffee chats on YouTube, but then everybody started getting censored off of YouTube and I knew some of what we were saying wasn't going to make it through like the censorship crackdowns. So then we just started on Patreon and we kind of were like, you know, we might have four people interested or we might have who God knows how many, but it's worked so far. Well, it's been an awesome show. Like I really. I'm enjoying it. Yeah, it really has been. And it's a cool dynamic between the two of you and you guys are like getting some awesome guests on and it's very cool. And there's like, I think there's like a $5 patreon to get the basic level, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that's all I have. So I recommend it. It's worth it guys. It's definitely worth it. You're supporting a good cause and they're doing some really good work. Thank you. So when did you realize that you were a medium? So, you know, I like try and always pinpoint it. So like one moment and I can't or I changed my mind, which moment it was, but really as a child, like young child, I would say I was like very psychic, kind of weird child. And then there was a combination of a few things in my late twenties when it resurfaced, I quit drinking. I was doing yoga and I was starting to do more like quantum regression type stuff on myself and then I hit age 29 and I was teaching yoga and I actually put my hands on a student and I got this flash of all this information about him and I like raced out and I went to this acupuncture as I was working with. And I was like, I'm either legit going crazy or there's something else going on in this world and it's like really real. And she was real enough to be like, well, you know, both are possible. You could be going back to crazy or there's a lot more going on, but I want you to speak to this woman. And it was through a series of like my own personal experiences and then talking to other teachers who really honestly just made me feel okay with what was going on. It's a big thing when the stuff starts happening for you is you're like, am I okay? And is my life going to be okay if I accept this? Yeah, so it was like, it was like, and then I started looking back and I was like, oh my gosh, I was having these medium flashes, medium meaning receiving messages from outside of myself, not necessarily just talking to dead people. But knowing things are being able to do like a timeline scan of another person, which we're happy to talk more about. But oh, yeah, it was kind of going on for a while. And then at age 29, it just like slammed back through and everything just flipped back on. And I know you're a real deal because whenever we talked, I reached out to you to ask you to come on the show. I didn't even know that you were a medium. I had not heard you say that on the episodes that I caught. I had no idea. And while we were talking, someone very close to me came through and it was caught me off guard. It was totally unexpected. And the information that came through was mind blowing, stuff to no one knew. And it was, it was a pleasant surprise. And I have relayed that message to another person and just, I mean, that just proved to me that how important that this work is and how, you know, it's a gift. You know, they say everybody can do this stuff, but obviously some of us are just more naturally inclined at some of this stuff. So yeah, guys, I was like, I don't know if I scared him away. Like, are they ever going to call me back? No, not at all. It was actually excited me to even more for the interview. You know, yeah. So, so then you came back at 29 and did you like start working with this? Like this, you've made this a job or? Well, 29 is when it like full, you know, went full throttle from like a little. So before that, I was kind of like, always found myself just talking to people or asking questions that seemed very random. And then 29 is when I would say there was like a big shift, like a real huge amplification of the ability. But really, I would say early twenties is when I started noticing, like, I think. I don't know. I just felt different than other people. I mean, I think we all do, but it felt different in that way. And then I studied actually a lot. And then I like made contact with what I now believe are. Eat an ET life form that I was before this life. I didn't know that then, but I made contact and I said, like, okay, I'm willing to work with this ability. If you promised me to like protect anyone that I work with, because I don't want to hurt anyone. And I don't want anything low vibration or at the time. All I said was like, evil to come out of this. And they were likely promise. And I literally walked back to my corporate job and just looked at my boss and was like, I'm leaving. And he was like, what, you've just gone to lunch. Like what's going on? And I was like, I'm leaving. I have to do something. That's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. Good for you. Yeah, that we all get to that point, not all of us, but the goal is right to get to that point where you can walk away from that job and move. I mean, I was scared shitless really. I was like, okay, I'm listening to voices telling me I'm going to be okay, but like, am I actually going to be okay if I could do this? Yeah. Well, obviously you are, I hope you're beautiful. It was, you know, it was just I've been a hundred percent referral. My business has grown my medium business and now working with other people who have experiences or have abilities. It's been a hundred percent referrals. It was slow in the beginning, you know, because you only know one person and then they refer you to one person. But now I'm able to do it full time and live. It's a comfortable life. That's beautiful. It's amazing. Thanks. Just for you. So you get, um, you ever get pinged? Like do you ever have even not being around somebody? Just do you ever get a message? Like you need to reach out to this person and tell them something. Yeah, I did that to you too. Well, you did. You did, but I do remember, but that was more like just, I didn't know if a particular person was coming through or at that part of her work. Well, I felt like, well, do you want to talk about it? Sure. Was it, do you have a grandfather that passed? I did. Was, was, is it your grandmother still here? No, she's gone too. Gone too. But were you talking about him at all when you were away? Well, no, maybe I could honestly, it could have been. I can't say one way or another because he comes up. Actually, I was now that I reached out. Now that I think about that, um, I was talking about him quite a bit, actually, because my grandfather who's still alive is going through something similar and I was telling my family, I'm like, listen. Grandpa's in way better shape than my other grandpa was, you know, so like you guys like don't count them out yet. You know, and then I started telling stories. Anyway, so that was why I felt like it was your grandfather coming through. But like I kind of gauge and like, okay, is this person even in a space to talk about this or not? So I like sent you a message and checked in and then I was like, can I use on vacation? I don't know. Oh, I'll let him be. But I felt like it was your grandfather and was, he was showing me that you were talking about him and I felt like he was, you were either talking about him to your mom or your grandma, like another female energy there. And he was just acknowledging that. Interesting. Yeah, that was, that was absolutely happening. Wow. Is that what you mean by a ping? I get those. Yeah. That's what I meant. Yeah. Well, perfect example. Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah. And we, with you, you and everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so your, your experiences, the stuff that you never considered could have been memories. Yeah. And when did that, those start happening happening? Um, young, very young. All right. Let's hear it. Okay. All of it. No part. Well, so I don't, I've listened to Tony's experience and Randy Kramer's. And so I don't know what all is out there, but I'll tell you that I didn't, in talking to them, don't feel like I fit in that mold. And I remember when I was, I mean, where do you want me to start? Young. Well, if it's significant. Yeah. Like, like if you think it plays part in this, you know, yeah. I think that I want to make this coherent because I have all this information that I want to like streamline into some coherent story line for you, but I think it started when I was young. I remember levitating. So what that looks like is I remember a craft showing up in my backyard. I remember certain details about the craft and one of them was that it actually had like a ball that a roll landed on. It didn't like drop like everyone else says. So it was this craft from the sky roll landed. These two human looking people got out and there was a game that they play with the ball. And so first they say, like, don't let the ball hit your house. It'll destroy the house. So they roll the ball and you have to stop it. And then they start getting a little more like, oh, you know, you have to jump a certain way to stop the ball, whatever it is. And then finally they throw the ball in a way where the only way that you believe you can stop the ball from destroying anything is to levitate and catch it. And then the moment you do that, you're gone. Going as far as what gone as far as I left with them that time, like you're out as soon as you levitate, you're like. So after the levitation and being like snatched is the best way to describe it. I have no further memories of that one. That's really interesting. And I mean, we hear experiences all the time. I hadn't heard anything like that before that. So there's one other person I was put in touch with that I was able to speak with on the phone. His name is Jonas. He's really left the scene, but we were able to like share our stories back and forth and his was a little bit similar. Levitation, so when I shared that story with my sister, she said, yeah, you could always leave 3D like don't you remember me trying to teach you to put your aura around yourself. And I was like, no, and she was like, but you didn't. You just left 3D and because of that, they tracked you more. So I guess from what I understand. Okay, so I have to say like there seems to be 2 species involved in my experiences, one that would kind of take me and check in that I still believe I'm connected to. And I believe that that's the life form I was before in carn eating is human this time. There's another group. It's a combination of human and other species. I was able to remember the name on their uniform. It's USS R Corp that was putting me through some kind of recruitment. Tests from age 3 until 12 and 12 is when I was potentially well taken for longer by USS R Corp. USS R Corp, interesting. And were you gonna say something? No, that's the first I've heard that term. So that's interesting. So I shared it with James who has a show and then he ran it by Peter and Peter actually confirmed what I remember from them, which kind of freaks me out. Because even though I have these memories, it's still a part of me that's like maybe I'm just intercepting somebody else's with my medium abilities or maybe this is just, you know, there's a part of you that's like, what from just imagining this, but then for the for the listeners, you're referring to James Rank and Peter the insider. Yeah, okay, yeah, and I listened to a show of his. I don't know him, but I was kind of like, I don't know if this person's credible or not. I don't know if that should scare me or not that he knew all about USS R Corp and what they do and that it was completely in line with what I remember of my time off planet. Yeah, I've heard very similar things about Peter before and I've actually been nudged to reach out to him myself by someone else and I haven't I have yet to do that. But that's interesting that I hadn't even know that you had spoken with him so. No, I haven't spoken with him. James asked him and then they did like a little show about it that I watched. Oh, I got you. Okay, feel interesting that they were able to confirm it. Yeah, okay, so then you had that experience. So I have memories and then I've done regressions trying to sort of figure out like which experience was with which species. And then I think age 12 that I left and I have memory of that experience, have memory of waking up somewhere else. And then there's like a probably I don't remember anything from 12 to 17 off planet. I don't know where I was or what I was doing from 17 to 23, I have memory of what I was doing. And that was with the SSR Corp. And okay, so whenever you were 12, you said you remembered one like waking up somewhere else. Where did you wake up? I can speculate where but I can just tell you that I went into doors in the ground on earth that I was on a table. My levitation skills or leaving my body. Worked in my favor because I kept projecting my consciousness out of the table. And there were like three people standing around me. And one of them was like, God damn it get her back in her body. And then they said to me, if you don't get back in your body, we're going to make this really hard for you. And I was like fine. And the moment I went back in, I remember something swiveling over my face. Tony told me about a needle. I don't remember a needle. I just remember this gold instrument swiveling over my face. Then I woke up and I was in a room with fake windows. Hey, it is Ryan Seacrest. 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Visit GCU dot edu slash Parapro. Meaning that the windows were light instead of actual outside. Oh yeah, this to give the impression of the daylight. Yeah. Yeah, or the illusion of it. Correct. My head was shaped. I was in a gown and I was eating. Sludge. And the sludge and then they watched me as if I threw up. And I didn't and then they gave me this did look like dog food. And I ate the dog food and I immediately threw up and they were like, okay, good at worked. And then I was like, what worked? And I were like, we did a. Procedure on your liver, gallbladder so that your body can tolerate space. Wow. Yeah. And you this was age 12 still. Yeah, that was 12. That's intense memory. That's an intense memory to have and retain from the age. Yeah. I knew this was going to be good. I'm never like only, you know, this is a thing. I don't want to hide this stuff anymore. I told my family before the show that was hard. My mom said the family knows my dad's side of family didn't know. Nobody wants to feel crazy. Nobody wants to have something coming out of their mouth that sounds batshit crazy. And we have to talk about this. You know, so this like my first time to really share this in a public way. So. Well, thank you. Thank you for your bravery. Well, that's you guys are the platform for it. So well, thank you for saying that too. Yeah, we really appreciate that. And I know what it's like to like for the when we first started the show, I was scared to death actually just like because of what people were going to think of me. But like you said, it's time to get it out. Yeah. And the reason you have to talk about this stuff right now isn't because you want to. It's because dark to light. Everything is coming to the surface and they do a lot of stuff against your free will and their slavery and trafficking involved in some of these programs and people are talking about them. Even though some of the audience might not even believe in it, it still has to surface. It still has to be brought to the surface so it can heal, be healed. And that's what we're looking at right now. That's why more and more people are coming forward. It's raising some, you know, the skeptics are like, okay, why all of a sudden are all these people coming forward with these experiences. I think it's just part of Gaia moving into this new frequency. The veil is thinning. Everybody's being activated and that's just the times, you know? Yeah. It's the time. Mm hmm. Yep. So I'm curious now to get into your stuff in your 20s from 17 to 23, is that what you said? Yeah. At the USSR Corp. Mm hmm, honestly, like a very mundane period of sort of doing the same thing day after day after day after day. But basically, the whole memory was triggered by me all of a sudden remembering a creature that looked like an eel with a chicken's head. And remember seeing it like on a table with like a belt over it and talking to it telepathically, like desperate talking to the snake and then so I get a little bit gritty with my memories. I'm like, if this is real and this is mine, you fucking remember something else than right now. And that's like how I talk to myself. I'm like, this is yours. This is your memory. You got to remember more right now. And it works, but like you need to really want it when you say that to yourself because like, this is the thing about remembering stuff is it will leave you like disheveled drinking coffee at 4 a.m. with tears coming down your face and everyone in your immediate proximity worried about you like remembering stuff isn't always that cool. I just want to say that. But so then what I remember it is that I was standing by a table. There was some kind of operation going on there and it was just my job to report when the life force had gone from this. And a species. I don't know because it was intelligent. I talk to you. It was way more involved than any human I know. Like it was a beautiful energy. And I was so tortured because they'd be like, they'd ask me like now and I'd have to say like, yes or no, still there or not there, still there or not there. Like my only job over and over and over was to tell these people if what they were operating on or prodding or just really fucking with still had life force or not. And you can feel in that particular one it had an impact on me because I could feel not just this creature but I could feel its whole species. You know, like I felt connected to its place of origin and its other community. It was just very impactful moment. But then there are like six years of me doing that where stuff kind of comes through and then it all fits within the same mundane repetitive life of just standing there saying if something has life force or not. Wow. And that's, I mean, I'm sure you're empathic. You know, obviously that's how that has to be. That's not an easy job is what I'm trying to say. Like watching where these things being tortured. Yeah. I mean, they were, they were trying to figure something out and whatever they were trying to do, they needed light to make it happen and where we were, which was between the third and fourth planet on the outer rim of our planets. Sorry. Yeah. It's okay. Life with dogs, they're going to do it again. Is that like Saturn Uranus or Jupiter Uranus? So it's funny in the memories there are, I don't know how in depth you want me to get. I knew it was getting it hot. Well, if you have to take your jacket off for it, then we want to hear about it. Okay. Exactly. But the color that what I was wearing was more tracking like brain activity. And you're, you could only think to a certain extent. So when I was trying to figure out like where I was, I could only say you're between the third and fourth planet on the outer rim of Earth. Like I couldn't tell myself I was on an asteroid or not an asteroid but like a moon looking surface. But I couldn't, couldn't fully connect to like what's the name of this thing? What planet am I orbiting? Like what's going on? I could only like see the map of it and, and take like a mental snapshot to remember. Because if you got into too much high processing, you would get like, like a jolt. Like the, like it would stop your brain activity in a way. The collar would? Well, the collar was there but you would feel it like in your head. You'd be like, so I don't know. They didn't, they didn't want you thinking even. Well, not certain details, I guess. It was a little weird. So, um, but it was dark all the time there. There wasn't any daylight. And what they were doing, they needed light floor and myself and some others that were there knew that we didn't tell them. Um, so we knew that whenever they know, know that. Okay. Interesting. So, but that's what I remember. No, that's, that's more than a lot. That's more than I was expecting. And so this was all under, so USSR. USS Arc Corp. And do you have any, any idea on where these guys are based out of or is this an earth alliance or earth group? No, out of our solar system. Well, that's an old thing. Like it's older than I read like a monarch programming type book. And, and I was like, this stuff is older than that. Way older than that. It's way more advanced than that. USS stands for United Solar System. I don't know what the rest is. I think somebody said it online, but they're from outside of our solar system. They come in, they can detect. Um, abilities, like vibratory abilities from the sky. Meaning when certain children are born, they can pick up on their vibration. From the sky. And that is probably how we get our targeted individuals. Yeah, I've heard that. Well, for the cabal has. Whether it's technology or however they're doing it, they're able to detect. Um, yeah, once one when star seeds are born and then they track track us. And then test you. Yeah, and then also, yeah, certain abilities, like you said, they're able to detect that as well. And then they will target those individuals and try to try to. Um, probably like, that's probably why you were taken because of your. Your abilities, I'm assuming they just wanted to use that. Uh, three reasons. Your, um. Origin, meaning I think that they know if you were another life form before human. Okay. Your, um, DNA in this body as well, though, does play into it. So if you're from this really powerful origin, but you come into like a clunky body. You don't fit the mold. Mm hmm. And your, um, fight. So you asked us our core from what I remember puts you through very rigorous testing. To see if you crumble or fight. And they only take people who fight. So one of the tests that I remember, which I now have reason to believe was. An airport not far from where I am now. Some of these things I've found, found names, I found houses, I've gone back to locations. Like good in it. Yeah. Nice. Um, Tony, Tony did the same thing. I know. Yeah. I told him it's something and I was like, should I do it? And he was like, I'm going to tell you, no, and you're going to wake up in the middle of the night. You're going to go do it anyways. But they put you in a simulator that feels like you're really in it, though. You don't know you're in a simulator. And then they give you these tests. So the one that I remember the most is like, I'm flying a craft and I have a partner. And the craft is going to crash. And then they say one, if you can save your craft, which is through levitation, by the way. And then two, if you'll save your partner. And I remember like hitting the ground, hitting the ground and crashing is bad because you go through. A recycle process where you have to like kind of do it all against. You don't want to crash, but you know that if you. Like use your abilities to save it, then you also get pushed into even more like stressful torturous scenarios. That one I remember because I was like, fuck it, fine. I saved mine and I also like sent my energy over and I saved my partner from crashing too. And I remember like we both just like got close to the ground and stopped. And then all of a sudden everything like faded out and it turned into what I thought was a barn because I grew up around farming. I was like, what, I'm going to barn a big white barn a tall barn. These people ran out from behind to a mirror. And the guy like started on strapping me and he was like, you're so stupid. Why did you save your partner? Like, why did you save your partner? And when he was leaning in is when I saw you assess our court. On his uniform. Wow, interesting. So this is like a, this is a standard tactic that they use. I mean, if we've seen this in Hollywood movies, they always take the ones that fight, you know, like there's always the one. Yeah, there's always the guy who like they're torturing everybody, but the guy who keeps trying to fight back is the one who gets recruited or whatever. This is like that's just common knowledge and the military in general, you know, so it makes sense that you would have a similar experience like that. And then we've heard you on telling the other guys talked about like respawning or like, like not respawning, I guess, but going through the training. And if you fail, you got to live like the, you have to feel that death and then start over. Yeah. And then they went through the simulator. It was bad. Like, what was weird about the memory is until I got the full memory back, I thought I was actually flying a craft. Like, that's how real it is. And I thought I was actually stopping a craft with my mental abilities. And then when the full memory came in, I saw the end of it and they like pull something off your face in your head. Does that make sense? So they're simulating something and they're like watching your brain activity, but it's so advanced. Exactly. And that's what when Corey Good came out with his original testimony, he talked about his virtual reality training. And then he said, you wouldn't know. It's like, it's like inside your head. So strong. And he said, there's certain things, but the test was to figure out that you were in a simulation. And that's how you pass the test. So, um, and there's this interesting to me. You know, it's a different type of test, obviously, but he just said how. You said how real it was, you wouldn't know, you know, simulation right now. Probably according to Elon Musk, you know, hey, we probably are. We're a holographic simulation. Yeah. Yeah, Elon is right. Yeah, we just got to find out a hole in the wall like on a Truman show. Yeah, exactly. Like the Matrix. Yeah. The Matrix was a scooter in multiple ways. Yeah, it was the simulator type thing on the Matrix too. I just relaunched that this year and I was like, that's what it's like. That's exactly what it's like. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good minute. Go go back and watch with new eyes. If you have no while, there's a lot. There's so many layers of disclosure in that movie. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So, um, keep going. Is there more to this? Remember, I mean, I remember, I remembered my family validated and then I took into a regression and abduction by my species, though, like kind of checking on me in a way. Okay. That was cool. That changed my life. Actually, it made me feel more comfortable to be on earth. So this was an experience. Wait, I'm confused now. This was an experience. This is why mine's like tricky because I have this whole USS our core recruitment that I think I remember stuff from around age three. I definitely remember a lot in the third grade and then again at age 12, where I think I went out. But in intercepted or not intercepted, but in the middle of that timeline is contact with what I believe is my last life farm species. Then they're watching over you, making sure that you're protected through all this. I don't know about protected. I don't know. I don't get that sense, but helping me. Okay. Just helping me understand, I guess. I mean, what they say is like you knew before you came in and you did have a moment of choice because I remember once having a conversation and being like, fuck you, fuck this, I'm pissed. And they were like, listen, you knew before you came in, you did get tricked, but you still accepted. And so this is just a part of your life and me being like, well, I guess there's nothing more you can say than you just accept that. Yeah, that's got to be tough. And that's, I think a realization a lot of people are having right now. We hear about these recruitments and stuff and it almost sounds like, yeah, you're tricked, but even if you weren't tricked, it doesn't sound like you would have much of a choice anyway. No, I think I would go back to that moment when I was like projecting out of my body and they were like, God damn it, get in your body. Yeah, we're going to make this hard for you. And it's like, you're so scared that they create a fearful consent where you're like fine, and that fine is consent, but it's like forced consent. Sure. And that's still your choice. I could have been like fine, make it hard for me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that's exactly why this stuff is surfacing like we said earlier, because that's not right. We shouldn't be doing that to our people. Well, even though that might have been a group. Yeah, but it still needs to be exposed all of it. So how do you still have like memories coming back? Do you have like recent experiences? Like is it happening up to this day? I mean, I question if it happened last week. Interesting. Yeah, I still have memories coming through. I mean, now I'm getting like nay, you know, places that I was able to go. Well, I'll just tell you, I think it happened in Dallas. I think it was at Dallas Lovefield Airport, which used to be a military base. I found a company. I remembered their name. I looked them up. I'm not going to say it now because I don't want to say anything that I think might put myself or another in harm's way, but they're based by a summer day camp that I went to, which in a regression. I said, when did this happen? And they said during day daycare, which I never went to, but then I put it together. But the company does forensic evidence videos. And if you have memories of kind of like, I would say it, I don't know if it's MK ultra training or not, but there is a training where you're forced to watch horrific scenes. The training or played with like common. That sounds like MK ultra. Yeah, like, so what I remembered was a swirling TV and having to sit in front of it and then watching something that I thought was just a channel changing, but it was like terrible thing. And then Bob Ross Bob Ross I remembered and then something else. So I woke up one morning and I was like, such and such Institute, you needed to look it up. And it's actually three miles from where I went to day school in the summer. And it was like, okay, well, this thing that I remembered that's a forensic video company is three miles from where in a regression I said I was taken. And that, that memory of the name of this place just came like three weeks ago. So it's still kind of, I mean, God knows what I don't remember. I only know what I do, you know. So you have this memory but you, you know, okay, so you were young then when you think this happened. Yeah. Yeah. I guess what I was asking was, do you think like they're still taking you like, was that a memory that just happened last week or do you think like you're currently still active in this. I don't know, I did ask in a regression and I said, you're not yet ready for that answer. I do feel visitation. So now. It's kind of weird. I was thinking about that this morning, like, what if I am out there. What, what happens if you're out there and you die on earth. So, have you seen this, this is crazy the movie just came out of the Amazon Prime cut called the tomorrow war. And it's about a temporal war where these were humans right now or whatever are taken into the future. And they're fighting a war in the future and then they come there brought back. It to this time and then they live out the rest of their life just like the 20 and back. They're like, yeah, except they're only it's a lot different. They're only gone for seven days and they come back. But in that movie, the guy finds out from somebody in the future that he'd actually died in the timeline. With the lucky land slots, you can get lucky just about anywhere. This is your captain speaking. We've got clear runway and the weather is fine, but we're just going to circle up here a while and get lucky. No, no, nothing like that. It's just these cash prizes add up quick. So, I suggest you sit back, keep your tray table upright and start getting lucky. Play for free at luckylandsluts.com. Are you feeling lucky? No purchase necessary. B.G. W. Greg Boyd were prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply. On on earth. And then what happened to him? He was able to go back because that hadn't happened yet. He didn't actually die yet when he went back to the original time. And in the movie, he was able to change the outcome because he knew because he knew what caused that, you know, so it's still like left a mystery in the movie. Either way, like there's a lot of disclosure in that movie didn't get ratings, but it's a lot of like SSP timeline, like weird stuff, you know, and then it's all about a wrecked ship under the ice and Russia. They were crash landed here years ago. You know, interesting. I feel that way about manifest too. Like they've completely cheesed out the show, but there's a lot of disclosure in that show and a lot of what they experience is similar to what happens for me. Mm hmm. Wow. So, yeah, it makes sense now why you were led to Tony. Yeah. Yeah. So what would you mind sharing what exactly Tony said that kind of made you drop your jaw. Yeah, he said that when that 20 years is up, like you got to ask yourself if everything in your life changed. That was it. And that was a moment that you like just like had kind of stopped and we're like world. Well, I had, what the fuck it is very personal, but I had learned that when I was feeling like really, really anxious. That I needed to connect to my higher self. So I thought so go into this like deep trance state, find myself out there. But I was on a ship. In outer space. And I would like yell at myself from the side, you know, like, hey, hey. And then I would like energetically shake myself. And I would tell myself, whatever, I'd be like, you've got to calm down up here because I'm anxious to fuck down on earth. And, and I always was like, fuck, are we like our souls living in like UFO crafts like what's going on out there because I didn't know about. I didn't know a part of me could be out there. Yeah. And so when Tony said that I was like, what the fuck like what if, what if I was finding myself in a spliced bit of my own consciousness and outer space. And like, it really is bad up there. And that's why I'm feeling it here. And then when the whole thing was over, I feel like if it is over, I don't know, I could, I don't know, but like that, you know, I remember really weird stuff at age eight, nine. And then twenty nine, like everything came back and my whole life changed. Then I was like, oh my God, what if I was out there. And that's a 20 year span too. So that's interesting. Yeah. And the reason why I was seeing myself on craft is not because our souls exist in UFOs. It's because maybe a splice in me was on a craft. And we hear that a lot. I've even thought I've seen craft and I wonder if I was up on that craft like in the, in the programs because it could look like that, you know. And even Tony, a thinker, Johan, maybe they said, like you could potentially run into yourself. If I remember you, I think you have the circumstances were right. And like Tony, for instance, will come back to actually do missions on earth and he could have actually ran into himself. So if you were like connected enough to your soul force, then what if you could astral connect and that's what I think I was doing. And that's why I would tell myself to calm down up there, so that my life would chill out down here because there, there's some correlation between what's going on for you emotionally off planet and where you are in the same, like age on planet. I really believe that 100% couldn't agree more actually. I think even physical down to some physical ailments and stuff. We have memories like another movie, the sixth day it's a movie about clones but they depict in that movie that whatever happened to the clone, then the are the original body are the next, even the next clone feels like you feel the pain from your other. Personalities from your other bodies. Yeah, you're the bits of I described it to myself and a regression. I was like, you know how a lilies like this, this is a closed lily bud. And this is how we should be. But when you get into this technology, it does like this. So the pedals open and you can be all of these things at once I was only one. But that you still remain connected to the central part of who you are. But those things can be really far away from each other. Yeah, people call them alters but in my regression I was like, don't call it that it's not an altar. Yeah, that's I'm glad you brought that up because I think about alters a lot I'm like, right. How does that work it's, I mean this stuff is extremely confusing to begin with. So they don't want you to call alters because it doesn't work like that how, how do you understand it then. Well, I'm not going to be so bold is to say alters don't work but I wasn't an altar there. I was very firm and my regression and a regression that don't call it an altar. We are soul splice anyways, we have over souls and we splice into different experiences some overlap and some don't. So the essence of who you are remains the same in all splices or pedals of the lily it's still this, but it shows up in different ways meaning different personalities different lifetimes. So also I asked myself were you involved in the secret space program and my answer was no we were involved in experimental programs. So that's like really important that I say that. And then that I only spliced once. So there weren't like five different splices of me there were only two. That makes sense. It does make sense. It does make sense. But that's how we work as a medium to I'm sorry to cut you off, but like our soul come a part of our soul source comes down as a body for this experience. But a big part of it remains up there and that's when people say connect to your higher self I think they're saying connect to your soul source energy. So our consciousness has been doing this from the beginning of the formation of consciousness, however long ago that was these programs have learned how to make it artificial and to splice your soul in an artificial way. But the soul's been doing it from the beginning. Wow. Interesting. That's very interesting. And I'm glad you clarified that. Holy cow, I just lost my train of thought. What were you just saying that I was saying that our souls have been splicing for a long time and I think that certain corporations have learned how to artificially I think they've learned how to artificially create souls too. Yeah, there's a lot of experiences that talk Peter Slattery talks about that where he says, like, like she is a plating that he's in contact he's been in contact with his whole life but he says it's actually him. He says it's just another aspect of his soul like, and, and then there he said there's other ones to that he knows about. He said it's time really doesn't since time doesn't exist like it's not like it's not really like everything's already happening at the same time so it's like, it's it's yeah it gets mind boggling to think about but but yeah it's like all he's like that's all me just incarnated in different bodies and having different experiences but it's all him but with that that one's interesting though because that means he's interacting with himself with CG. That's true, that's exactly all this information and knowledge and stuff. That's all all life so it wants. Correct. Yeah. And just to get it out of the way what I was going to say is I'm glad you clarified that that was an experimental program that's so weird that my mind just stops when I was going to say that but and not the secret space program. Maybe you have a mental block around experimental programs. I know for not joking I know I have memories myself and experiences myself and some of them. I know it's not like he said it's not that great it's actually becoming more and more apparent that something that's not going to be easy to deal with. And it's all you know it sounds exciting like you said to a listener sometimes but it's not that exciting sometimes. You were just saying Peter was talking to himself, you know, and ultimately, ultimately, I had a session I've had one time, my future self came into the room and I was told to whenever you're meditating or not meditating to try to communicate to your higher self or your guides or whatever they said right now at this point in my life, my best bet would be to talk to my future self from like 10 years from now, because apparently whatever I'm doing is like what I want to be where I want to be. And it's just an interesting concept like we're always trying to reach outside of us looking for stuff but it's like, you never think about like talking to your future self or your higher self or all that stuff. Or maybe a being that you are in contact with is you like Peter's case you know, it's so weird. I think when you know some of our great teachers are awake or say like you need to know how powerful you are I think that's exactly what they're talking about. Which is that you are, I'm going to call it source energy having all of these experiences with wisdom and ability to, you're not changing the past or the present. I mean the future because it's all existing now like you can tap into these different lifetimes and gather information and slightly change things it's not going to mess up. People are like what don't want to change it is going to mess up now and it's like doesn't actually work that way because it's all happening right now. The guy who were talking about what did you say his name was. Peter Slattery. Yeah. When I first started making real like focused contact with these ETS, I always sensed five but I only saw four. And I was very confused by that until I tried a regression, and in my first regression ever. I stood that I was the fifth. Oh, when I would enter into communion or conversation with them, I altered slightly. So I was I became the fifth of them. Interesting. So, like a council almost. I was in the committee. Okay, the committee. Yeah. Yeah, and that's this really like gets me I always think like who are we really, you know. And I've had people and I've had like information come through sessions like if you only knew who you really were you wouldn't be worried, you know, or Michael. I still don't know, you know, so ask next time I did that I said like is this, this is my origin and they were like no do you want to go to your origin. Yeah, and I went, I told myself it turned out to be 1.08 trillion light years away, and I was a blue orb of light. Yeah, that's that's yeah, that's right around the corner. What are you talking about? So ask. Yeah, I think there's blockages I know there is. Asking is everything asking and demanding like I was saying, I'm like, no, I want to remember. I'm remembering this right now or okay if this is not, you know, when I said to my, the ETS if this is not who I am who am I tell me show me now. Yeah. Well what happened with me and I'm not trying to make this all about me but what happened was talk about you I've been talking the whole time. Oh, that's not why we do this. Yeah, great of you know what happened was I was told. I asked because I was like remembering and having crazy experiences like it was over like I, it made it very difficult to be alive and go to work the next day and act like nothing was going on. But I was told that one day they stopped, and I couldn't figure out and I actually started having like withdrawals I started missing it. I'm like, like nights will go by I'm like whoa like nothing's happening. It was weird even though the experiences were never that great it's weird how you like it's almost like an addiction there, but I was told that through a session with someone. That happened and they were shown that they there was like almost a switch they was turned off they said somehow or another. I was remembering way too much. And then my guides whoever was watching over me like saw me in the near future, like this version of me going crazy like psychologically like just losing my mind. And then dial it down for lack of a better term, and put a block in because I had like it was just I was not supposed to remember him what I was. And, and I think now that's making it very difficult because stuff slips through, but it's not a lot and I don't even think I'm in a place in my life where I'm ready for all that so I think my advice to people is like if you want to remember stuff you got to like you got a combo with deep deep spiritual and self work so that you can actually like integrate it and keep asking yourself like what I have to ask myself is like okay cool how does this matter in my life right now. You know and not and not let it become too heavy or too serious like okay cool I think I was abducted and spent at least six years in outer space. Exactly. Does that matter for my life right now there was still love the people around me the same my good person and my helping others with what I can you know I don't want to get into all that but like parrot with like deep spiritual work so that you can do something like you can you can become entertainment if you're not careful. Yeah and I'm getting to the point where I'm doing exactly what you're saying. There's things happening that I can no longer ignore you know we all get to you know you think you're healed but that's not true. You know it's a lifelong healing in this body for Aaron I'm still I don't know. Yeah I think you were born healed. I don't know what's going on. Earlier you mentioned I don't even know if this has to do with your experiences but you mentioned the timeline scan. What were you referring to is that something that you can do for people or. Yeah it's well I. I seem to be very adept at pulling trauma memories for people and like helping address them because what happens is if we all have a natural vibratory state let's say meaning like the way you're born you come out with your vibration to you get to be who you are you get to attract things that are like your vibration get to live that life then things happen in the human world that throw that vibration off. So minor traumas big traumas whatever it is and it gets lodged energetically emotionally vibrationally in your body but also like flags in your timeline in a way as I see it. So a lot of times before I have a session with someone. I know nothing about people when I have sessions I know your name and your phone number. And so I'll sit down and sort of focus on that person and I just write down everything that's coming up in their energy that's important with the intention of what's highest and best for their spiritual and emotional growth and wellness. And what I seem to be skilled at doing is pulling trauma flashes. And I know like what age I know what they were feeling so I can't explain this that we're already talking about weird shit so one time Tony and I agreed to do some astral work together just to see what would happen. We created a meeting point which is a trapezoid base of the moon. We met there and then I grabbed his hand I was like let's go and he like lodged like he couldn't go and I was like what's going on and then I got this flash of like orange or yellow raft. So this young kid like going under and bobbing up and grasping for air and the water under the raft and then going down. And he came up one time and I was like calm down you have to calm down you're going to be okay you have to calm down. And I like flashed out of that memory and I would in the astral adventure with Tony I said I can't take you, you have to fix that. And I left and I went and did my own thing I found a client out in the astral world and I was like talking. Anyways, the next day I called Tony and he was like I saw you there but nothing happened for me and I asked Tony I said did you ever almost drown. I was like seven or eight years old young kid. Here's the kicker. He said yeah I was out on a raft in the lake with my sister and these bullies pushed over the raft. And I couldn't swim that well and I kept like going down and coming up and going down and coming up and he's like you know what's fucking weird about that is when my sister finally pulled me under the raft she goes who's Jackie. And I was screaming Jackie. And she was like my friend's name is Cassie who's Jackie. No way. Yeah. Sure. That's crazy. That's insane. So that's really why you connected with Tony. Yeah, this happened. Yeah. But I seem to be able I've had one other instance where I remember at a trauma instance for someone and they were like you know it's like you were there. Only one other time, but I mean I think our souls are huge, you know I think this stuff happens can happen we should use it. So I can see timelines of people with trauma stuff. And it's not always it's just if I if my intention is what's most important sometimes that comes through. Whatever needs to be healed because for some reason Tony couldn't go further as a vibration be until he addressed that and I think that's happening for a lot of us if we don't work on the things that are vibrationally lowering our bodies. Then our spirit bodies also can't fully integrate like we can't fully tap into it. Yeah. So I'm going to be calling you after this. Do it. Definitely I will because I feel like maybe you could help in some areas so we'll get into that definitely. I'm happy to help where I can. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Okay, so. You're scientific background didn't stop you from believing in any of this stuff apparently because you were almost almost. Yeah. So how did it's like, how did that happen? Did you get to like a threshold or you're like, okay, like I have to accept this stuff now. It's just too accurate. It's too accurate to not. And then I became open to experiential knowledge and experiential beliefs, meaning if I'm experiencing this and it's this accurate. It doesn't mind. It doesn't matter if I can't find it explained somewhere. But if you dig deep enough into the quantum world I think you can. But yeah, it almost mean I was. What is your scientific background just for the audience? Well, it's not really that scientific. I, I, so I graduated grad school when I was just barely 22 not quite 22 actually. So I flew through the, you know, academia world, I studied linguistics and Spanish, and then I went into foreign policy and international communication, and I was done when I was 22. So I went through grad school with honors. I went into management consulting and then operations in the tech world. And then I started studying yoga. And I think yoga is when my interest in quantum physics kicked in, because I was like, holy shit. Okay, round two, name something that's not boring. Laundry, a book club, computer solitaire, huh? Sorry, we were looking for Chumba Casino. That's right, Chumba Casino dot com has over 100 casino style games. Join today and play for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. Chumba Casino dot com. No, no, no, no. People have been teaching this for thousands of years. I'm experiencing it now. And then I hit the books, studying, trying to figure out how this is actually possible because it's just, I mean, you, you experienced that it's too accurate. It's just too accurate to not believe in anymore. Yeah. Well, that's, that's interesting. I'm giving long answers so you can like, you know, it's actually necessary because they're not, it seems like a simple question, maybe, but you're, you're explaining things very well. I think it's going to go. It's going to resonate. It's going to be digestible for the audience. You know, okay, good. It is for me anyway, you know, sometimes I take it for granted how much like how I guess seasoned we are, like, as far as how much we know we're always talking about this stuff, but then we have people in the comments ask questions, but we'll be, we'll be throwing stuff like it's common knowledge and then we forget, like, Oh, yeah, not everybody even knows what we're talking about, you know, so I think you're doing a different levels. That's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Good job of breaking that down. Thanks. Yeah. Is there any other like experiences that come that you remember that you feel like sharing before we start wrapping this up. Well, if I was going to help somebody like me, I would say, like, you know, there was a lot of being pulled out of class. I think that's a big thing and believe it. Time missing time is a big thing. I'm just trying to think what would be the most helpful for other people. And then not trying to like make what you remember fit with somebody who's like famous in this industry, not industry, but in this world. Don't try and make what you're experiencing fit in that because it can kind of drive you crazy or make you just credit yourself instead just like start writing your own timeline of like I remember this then and this then and and don't question yourself like. So when I went all the way to my soul, I guess my starlight to who I really am what I told myself was like, nobody is lying. People are just confused. Like I specifically told myself to help people in this world who are working with these memories and figuring these things out and said, there's nobody. People are just confused. So one message I would want to say is like, it's not necessarily memory, but I would want to tell people, like, don't try and make yours fit into somebody else's account. Like, don't discredit yourself. Just trust it and work with it and work with someone who can help you so that you don't go crazy in the future. That's great advice. Actually, that's really good advice. Because for one, can you imagine like we just have a handful of well known people who are sharing their memories. There's 1000s of people if not more that are getting memories back but there's a handful that people know. How many programs are there, how many different experimental programs are there, you might be in something totally like what you experienced, no one else, maybe having the same memories of that USSR Corp or whatever you know I'm just using as an example. Correct. You might be the first one having memories from this specific group or whatever so how many species are on the earth. Think about that. Like, we just kind of blindly accept all these species on the earth. Well, space is like that times a million. Like, nobody owns disclosure. Nobody owns experimental programs. Nobody has the formula. There's too many species out there. If you believe that one person or one species is dominating this whole thing, then you're not honoring and humbling yourself to the truth of outer space. So that's simple. It's just too fucking big. It is. No, I know it's amazing that you're saying that no it's just a great point. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. And yeah, speaking of disclosure. Talk about a dad, huh? That last the nine page document that we got. I saw that coming from seven lifetimes ago. Yeah. Well, luckily I never for a long time I've never had. Expectation or hope or like the school. I knew disclosure is never going to come from any official government or source because they're the ones suppressing it. They're the ones that have an interest in not. That's why they haven't brought it for for so long. Like, otherwise it would have happened a long long time ago. And we wouldn't have this control system in general. So, like, I'm just like, why do people like for a long time? I'm like, why do people? Why are the UFO community always like, Oh, we need disclosure and they're saying like from governments and I'm like, we expect that's going to happen. Yeah, like it doesn't make any sense in a sense. They know that like, we know the trick, we know their game, but we're still asking for them to give us. But real disclosure is like this show. Yeah. It's like people are being contacted themselves and people are having experiences themselves like you. And like, we have and like, that's disclosure is just like us telling our stories and like sharing. Yeah. And that's it. It's not don't rely on like, Oh, it has to come from a government to officially tell us that it's happening. And then what? And then you think they're going to really like release the technology or like, let us interact with something. There is something there that I know some people really want disclosure for. And it's a selfish reason because they want to be able to say, I told you so to everyone who pointed fingers at them and call them crazy and thinks that they're nuts. And that they're wasting their life away chasing something that doesn't exist. There's a part of all these people that want like that official disclosure. So you can like, I told you I'm not crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel that I can. Oh, yeah. I would love to say like my mom said the family. I mean, my sister has her own experiences with whatever, but I'm not going to go into that. It's one side of the family is like, yeah, duh, and the other side is like. And for that side of the family, I want to be like, see, it's real. You know, I feel that I don't think I answered one question you asked. Do I think I'm still active out there as a. A Lillian pedal. I don't know. Do I still get visitations and contact. Yes. That's what I was saying. I think last week. And my boyfriend experienced it for the first time. Oh, as far as what being contacted. Yeah. I mean, it's, I don't, I don't. Yeah. Yeah, here is experience. I just mean, no, it's just like we have this code where if I'm not sure if I'm here or gone that I touch his hand always happens in bed. So there was a night where I immediately set up. There was a bright light outside of our window. I grabbed his hand and then both of us woke up at 9 a.m. And we always get up at seven because we have dogs. Oh, yeah. And he said to me, you're aliens. And I go, I think so. And I have this spot on the back of my head. My sister calls it a port. I realize I'm going into so much when we're wrapping up, but we don't have to wrap up right. Go ahead. Yeah. This is good stuff. I reached back. And there was like. Either a random bug mark in the same place or like a little needle mark. The back of my head. And this time we actually like took a picture of it, you know, wrote down everything. So. For me, there's a pattern when I experienced deep pain or heartache. I tend to get visited. And I feel like I get a reset of my medium skills because if I'm suffering or in a lot of pain, I'm not as good at being a medium. The reason why I think I'm a medium is because that's the way we communicated and that alien life form. I brought that ability into this body, the ability to share all present moments at once. So what I've noticed is if I'm going through something really human, which happens in my job, like people die in terrible ways, people are in a lot of pain and it gives me heartache. I tend to get visited. I tend to have a reset. Yeah, that makes sense. I think that that happened last week. And for the first time, I think that. Like my boyfriend was like, I saw the light out and we're on the 11th floor. So a bright light outside of our wind. It was like a big thing. But yeah, but I have no memory of it. I just, when I woke up, I was switched on. I was like getting downloads messages. I call it connect and messages, but yeah. So I don't know if I have a part of my consciousness and some kind of a slave role in a program, but I definitely feel like I still have contact with my species. I don't have the like beautiful clear messages that some people have some things going on. Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that something's happening. Yeah, you wouldn't be here right now, obviously. Otherwise. So that's it. You know, it's funny about the dog thing you said your dogs usually wake you up. I've had an experience one time where I was actually aware for part of it. So I'll be sharing that experience when I speak of the study in a couple of weeks, but I noticed that my dog looked like she was sedated. Yeah, like, and I had to get out of bed. During that experience, it's, it's, it's a long, I'm not even going to go into the whole thing. It'll take too long. But if I even move in bed, my dog. It just get up a me later light sleepers. No, she was like out of it like heavy, heavy breathing like was not waking up. I just to validate that a little I had, I had this is a year ago, maybe. All right, when I felt they were there, not mine though, something else was going on. I won't get into the whole story, but I remember arguing with them. They were like, go in the front yard. And so I like, remote viewed the front yard and I was like, I'm not fucking going out there. I see you. And they were like, go in the front yard. I was like, no, I'm not going in the front yard. You're not here. Look, my dogs. And they were like, your dogs are sedated. Wow. Like I was like, you're not really here. If you were here, then my dogs would be reacting. And they were like, you know, you know, we're here because your dogs aren't moving. So, I don't know. That one's a bit. Yeah, that's what told, that's what did it for me too. Because I was like, why am I, it didn't dawn on me immediately, but I'm like, she should be up. Right. Yeah. Our slept until mine and the cat and the cat, if she sleeps till nine, something's going on. Yeah. Yeah. Asshole in the night. Yeah. That's cats are. Yeah. Well, if they can do that, that's apparently that's how they swap our clones with the palace with these politicians also. Right, right next to their lover. They wouldn't know. They have the technology to do so much beyond what people can imagine. Yeah. I've been cloning since the 60s, at least, if you can just read deep past documents, like we've been cloning for so long. Oh, yeah. Probably earlier than that. Yeah. Um, that book you just read the secret during the planet SERP. Oh, they talk about, they talk about a percentage of the army and where we're one being clones, you know, one, which was like, yeah. Early. And we can't prove it verified. 20th, early 20th. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, the clones I know for 100% first of all, the secret space program, like, that's how they, that's how they pulled off with clones. I think so too. I think they clone the body and send. Yeah, I think it's different groups have different ways of doing it. I truly believe there's like probably a whole plethora of ways to do it, but one of them definitely is the clone, you know. I want to say one last thing and I don't know why, but I'm going to trust it. There was a lot of focus in my training on the place where my head is shaved around strengthening my hip flexors. It's so random, but there was a random, I'm suffering right now. I actually have. I'm running out of options. Basically, I'm trying to figure out what I can do about my hips, my hip flexors. Yeah. It's fatigue. It's fatigue from what though? Well, I don't know, you'll have to figure that out. I just wanted to tell you that. That's insane. Just telling me before we went on right before we were on the show, I was telling them about it. What's your, it's your lower back, but that's. But, but no, when people have looked at it, my hips. That's like the cause. Yeah. Yeah. There's, well, we can talk about it offline, but there's probably more there for you. Yeah. We'll definitely be talking. I know. I mean, I don't want to withhold anything, but I also like the nature of my work. It can be a little bit like exposing and I just don't want to do that to anyone. Yeah, appreciate. We'll just talk offline. Yeah. Wow. Thank you for sharing that because. Yeah. Yeah, you're definitely, you definitely pick it up on that. So can you please let people know how they can find you, how they can book a session with you. And how they can find talks with Tony and that show and all the above. Yeah, I'm not on any social media, although Tony just made us a Facebook page, but connections with Jackie. Yeah. That's easy. One spot for everyone. Yeah. Guys, go, go, go, go check out talks with Tony for one. If you haven't watched the show, if this, if this doesn't make you interested in checking it out, it's a great show. It's a really cool duo and yeah, what do you guys have coming up as far as that goes? Anything that you can talk about crypto this week. We just did that on Saturday. Yeah. So crypto, but particularly like Tony's always like, can you use your psychic senses to like, tell me what to buy. So we're going to talk about like also using psychics to get information. I don't do that. It's not, I'm not interested in it. So whatever, but yeah, detoxing, getting your own ability stronger is the topic slightly. That's what Ivan teller, if you were, if you're aware of him, he's a channel where. And he has people come in him all time wanting to know what crypto is going to do. And, and he made, he said a funny quote. He's like, you could tell people the secrets of the universe and all they'll care about is what Bitcoin is going to do. Yeah, which is still that's 3D matrix programming. Yeah. Yeah. The 3D program, but it's just funny. So it's true though. It's so true. I could tell somebody something that's going to change their life, if they would embrace it and work with it. And they're still going to want to know what crypto is doing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you might know how to get rich. You might actually check out his channel and, and just watch maybe a video or two of him talking about crypto. Just because you're, if you're looking, if Tony's looking for that, he does that stuff. You know, he does watch it. I have a good life. I'm happy. Yeah. Look, he can even book a session with him and ask him all those questions too. And you know, it's worth a grain of salt. It's just whatever comes through and you pick who you want him to channel. So it could be your higher self. It could be whatever. Interesting. Maybe I will just to experience another. I've had a session with him, two sessions with him and some of the information is scary to come through. You know, like, like you, like just some stuff so accurate. Yeah. And then some of it's so out there, but you have to consider it. Because of the accurate shit, right? Wait, he can't be all crazy. Yeah. And then he goes live every night and channels all these beings on YouTube and he is like hardly anyone watching. But I almost feel like he could be like, it seems so, so crazy. But a part of me feels like he could be so close to the truth on certain things, but it's so incomprehensible for most people that it doesn't even need to be censored because it just sounds ridiculous anyway. I'll check it out. Yeah. I don't know. Not everything he says, obviously it's channeling, right? Yeah. We're human too. We've got to come through our humans. There's always going to be a little glitchy thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So just take it with a grain of salt because you never know. I'm not saying that he's like some guy or something. They're just saying it's interesting. And because of him, I have gotten a lot of new ideas and theories and perspectives on things that I thought I had figured out. You know, so. Same thing gets you gets the wheels turned. So anyway, that being said, thank you so much for coming on. This was incredible. Thank you both for having me on. This was a lot of fun. Yeah. I feel like there's more that you could probably share, you know, maybe we'll do this again, if you want in the future. Anytime it was great to be on. Thank you both. Aaron and Tyler. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. It was great. Thank you so much. All right, guys. Thanks for watching. Thank you all for the donations. Thanks for everything you guys do to even keep us afloat and make sure you go check out talks with Tony. Go book a session with Jackie. I'm going to get to come see us in a set or in Sedona tickets are available still for both conferences, I believe. And, yeah, either still think it's I just sawed. I don't know. I could be wrong. Don't even listen to me. I'm just surprised. Usually it's all that. Anyhow. Yeah, come hang out with us. If you want buy a ticket, come hang out with us. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to meeting some of you guys. I know I know some people have already told us they're going to be there. So it's going to be a fun time. It's going to be a busy month for us. We're going to be gone for like 14 days or something crazy like that. I don't know. Back to back. Yeah. So we're looking forward to that. And we're looking forward to seeing what Jackie and Tony have coming up next. Thanks. Good night, everybody. And we will. Oh, the dog saying good night. Good night. Yeah. Good night, guys. We'll see you next time. Good night, guys. [MUSIC PLAYING] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Hey there. 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