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EP 241 - James Bartley: Black Helicopters & UFOs - Muting of Consciousness - Blue Beam Technology
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James Bartley is the host for The Cosmic Switchboard Show. James has
investigated Alien Abductions, Military Abductions, Alien Technology Back-
Engineering, Secret Space Programs, Ancient Mysteries and “Surface Level
Conspiracy Fact” for over thirty years.
James has had his own personal ET and Cryptid Encounters. He is a former
member of the Military Intelligence Community and is an Independent
Historian specializing in Military History, Intelligence/Counterintelligence and
Special Operations.
James has lectured in many places including Philadelphia Pennsylvania,
Memphis Tennessee, Las Vegas Nevada, San Diego California, Roswell New
Mexico, and the legendary “UFO Friendship Campouts” at the Lil A’Le Inn in
Rachel Nevada, adjacent to the infamous “Area 51/Groom Lake Complex” in
Central Nevada. James spoke at The Repcon near Manchester England which
was the first ever conference dedicated to Reptilian Research and most
recently at The Paradigm Shift Summit in Surfers Paradise Australia.
Website:
https://www.thecosmicswitchboard.com/
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/JamesBartley
- Duration:
- 1h 16m
- Broadcast on:
- 13 Jul 2024
- Audio Format:
- mp3
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Just a reminder, if you want to come hang out with us at our conference this year in Grafton, Illinois, May 22nd through the 25th, tickets are still available. We would love to see you guys out there. And if you can't make it, you can grab a live stream pass for $99. The live stream experience this year is going to be, I guess, you can say enhanced. We're really trying to make it something special and unique and possibly interactive. So take advantage of that. And if you can't make it for the entire time, day passes will be available on April 1st. And we'd love to see you guys out there. We're really looking forward to it. And if you're looking for a roommate, there are people on the Telegram chat who are looking for roommates right now. So the Telegram chat is available on the website journey to truthcon.com and you might be able to find someone there to room with since the onsite lodging is sold out without wasting any more time. Tonight, we are joined once again by James Bartley. We had him on about a year ago. We talked about reptilians among us. We really got deep into that subject. And it was, it was great. It was one of my favorite episodes, James, I don't know if you can call him an expert on reptilians, but it was, it was definitely awesome. So we're going to get into some more of that today. Welcome back to the show, James. Thank you, Tyler and Aaron. I'm glad to be here. Glad to have you back. So I've been checking out some of your interviews on your website, the cosmic switchboard. You're doing some incredible work. You get into some really deep stuff. I love it. I love the direction you're going with it. I mean, there's so much happening right now. There's no shortage of things to talk about. You just did an episode with Eve Lorgen where you guys talked about multi-dimensional portals and these black helicopters and I'd like to kind of get into the black helicopter subject a little more before we jump into something else. And I was wondering if you could chime in on that and what you think these are because obviously, most of the time they're, I mean, they can be a military black helicopter but sometimes they can mimic or mask themselves as a UFO or a UFO mask as a helicopter, I should say. Yeah. So that's a great question, Tyler. Black helicopters and mysterious helicopters have been an integral part of the UFO lore since the beginning of both the modern UFO age and the modern helicopter age. I've seen black helicopters up close and I believe the ones that I saw were highly advanced. They're not on the order of battle of these mainstream Army helicopter or Air Force helicopter units. Off the shelf, black ops, highly advanced craft and on one occasion, it's a long story but I wound up standing directly beneath one of these and if I had a broom or a rake, I could have reached up and touched the underside of this thing. It was very narrow. It was a nighttime and I did not feel any down draft from the presumed hilo props, right? One would assume if you were standing beneath a helicopter, you could feel the air coming down from the turning of the blades but that wasn't the case. I didn't hear any sound other than a slight worrying sound and what was interesting was standing directly beneath it. I could only infer that there was the helicopter, the matter part of the helicopter directly above me because there were two faint points of light on either side of it and so I discern that, okay, that must be the body of the craft and if anyone had stood next to a Cobra helicopter gunship either if they spent time in the military or they went to an air show, they can see for themselves how narrow these cobras are. This craft, this presumed helicopter, seemed to be even narrower than that and I stood directly beneath this thing and then it moved off down the street and I foolishly chased after it and on another occasion, I'd gone to the field of my fifth grade elementary school in San Jose, California. I was visiting from San Diego, I'd come up to San Jose for the weekend and I just followed an intuitive yearning if you will and I strolled down to this elementary school hoping I could see something, it was nighttime and I saw four or five large triangular craft. These were, I would consider to be man-made, made by the deep black aerospace corporations or elements thereof, there's this notion that if a craft is triangular of necessity it must be man-made, that's a fallacy. The triangle shape, like the disc shape is a universal arrow form, there are many civilizations besides our own that create triangular shaped craft and I've seen man-made triangular shaped craft rather small in scale and larger and these were larger, I would say 90 feet from corner to corner and had a red light beneath the center of the craft on the underside and on each corner there were lights, now some of them did not have lighted corners, some only had one or two lighted corners, it almost gave them when the corner lights were not turned on, these would be white lights, when the corner lights were not turned on it almost gave a stealthy aspect because you wouldn't notice it. The only reason I noticed them was I've heard this buzzing electrostatic sound which caused me to look up, oh there's one of those large triangles in a craft, the point of relevance is as I'm standing in that field I see one of these black helicopters buzzing around beneath these triangular craft, it was making a buzzing sound, it was different I would say from the helicopter I just described a moment ago and what was interesting was as this flew around this schoolyard it occasionally admitted what I can only describe as a lighted rectangular window trailing behind it, I don't know what that was, it was a doorway, it was some kind of energy field, I don't know but all I know is as this thing is moving along it somehow created this rectangular white what seemed to be a doorway behind it for lack of a better term, it was like a door light laying on its side but it was illuminated and it was trailing this helicopter and it wasn't an object, it wasn't being towed, it was just like a light that manifested momentarily and then it turned itself off and then I decided when I saw the helicopter, well chances are they know I'm down there besides the crews on boarders trying to craft I decided to be the ace to retreat, crossed this footbridge, went to the street and started running back to my parents house and just to the left I saw it was very interesting if anyone else has seen any of these things I saw what I can only describe as a large flame, anyone takes a big lighter and they light it and you see what the flame looks like, we'll scale that up to about 15 feet high and it was hovering just above the houses to my left so there was all kinds of activity going on that night but the subject is the black kilos, some of the black kilos like I mentioned are lack of a better term terrestrial and there have been mysterious helicopters, black helicopter sightings that are integral to the whole UFO lore, many of us that have had ET UFO, my lab experiences have seen helicopters, black helicopters but there's also the mysterious types of helicopters which may not be terrestrial and origin, in fact it's quite likely that some of these helicopters that have been observed especially when they're doing unusual things are actually alien craft or lack of a better term disguised as a helicopter. And Evie Lorgan was discussing this on the podcast that she was on my show with, she talked about how her colleague had observed a portal open up in the sky and a helicopter come out of it. To me as a classic example of how these crafts can morph themselves, assume a guise that if someone, a casual observer, happened to look up, they would just think helicopters, they wouldn't think that it's anything other than a normal helicopter. Now I've had Jeff Brady on the show recently, he's a great guest and he's got his own podcast in other news radio and he has photo documented and videotaped many UFOs which assume the guises of mundane terrestrial objects such as clusters of balloons, other things, planes, a hidden aspect of the chemtrail phenomena is the fact that some of these planes that are emitting the plumes are not really planes, they've been seeing the shape shift in mid flight, they've been seeing the shift into a disk or some other shape. So there's a lot more going on and you go back to the Vietnam War, along the DMZ, the 17th parallel, the Demilitarized Zone that separated North and South Vietnam, a lot of the military units, the Marines and the Army that were along the DMZ kept reporting these mysterious helicopters that didn't belong to the American military, it was presumed perhaps they were North Vietnamese, NVA or perhaps even Chinese, but these helicopters would just buzz around for a long period of time, no one seemed to be able to shoot them down, no one seemed to know where they really came from, it was just a guess that they were North Vietnamese and origin, it's quite possible that those presumed helicopters were actually these craft in disguise that I'm talking about because the North Vietnamese as far as I know and as far as people knew at the time they didn't have suites of helicopters like the Americans did, and also when you look at the catalomy dilation syndrome, and this is going back decades now, one looks at the work of Lindomone, how and others, unusual animal deaths, and also my colleague Nish, who I was recently on a podcast with her, she talked about a strange die off of elk in her part of the Western, North Western U.S. I wanna get into that, yeah, the point being is that catalomy dilation's strange and unusual animal deaths are sometimes accompanied by not only UFO sightings, but black helicopter sightings, they seem to be at the very least cognizant and aware of the UFO alien interest activity directed towards the catal, towards the cows, they seem to be in the local area prior to during and after some of these catalomy dilation effects, likewise as far as the abduction syndrome, alien abduction syndrome is concerned where people are being abducted by aliens, once again, these black helicopters seem to be around, so to answer your question there's a mix, there's definitely black ops helicopters, and I'm not just talking about the night stalkers that work with Delta Force and that I'm talking about very, very deep black military aerospace helicopter units, some of these helicopters are quite advanced like I just described at the outset, and I do believe a significant percentage of these black helicopters related to this phenomena are really alien craft in disguise, if you will. Right, so a few things, there's a few things we wanna get into, for one the elk, so if you watched David Pillai this missing 401 the UFO connection, they made the elk connection as well, where a lot of these people were going missing, where there was high elk activity in the area, and the one guy who was even taken and brought back said that when he was on the craft, he was on the craft with some elk that they had taken as well, so they definitely have an interest, and by the way, I think that's a fantastic documentary if you guys haven't seen it. Have you seen that documentary? No, I have not, but I will thank you, and I'm really grateful for David Pillai this to be doing this, it's time has come for this kind of information, people like you and I, we've been talking about this kind of thing for a long time, the disappearances related to non-human life forms, but getting back to the elk, the reason it came up was in Nisha's neck of the woods, she's in the Pacific Northwest, there were, somehow they determined there were 24 elk involved, right, I don't know if they went around counting the legs and the heads and the body parts or what, and then they ascribed the demise of these 24 elk due to a train running over them, which is highly unlikely, okay, now we've been having all these train derailments and what have you in the recent past, but the notion that 24, again, they're really into numerology, t equals 4 equals 6, et cetera, et cetera, the notion that 24 elk would just be standing on a railroad track and just waiting to get right over, I find that highly unlikely, there were, according to Nisha, UFO reports in the immediate area before this die off and the eyewitnesses described the aftermath of the animal deaths, they said it was utter carnage, all the blood and gore and dismemberment of all these elk made some people physically sick that had seen it, so to me it doesn't sound so much like they will run over by a train, it sounds to me like perhaps it was due to some alien UFO interference, we know that when UFOs hover over or go near a cow pasture, for example, the cows tend to cluster up and congregate, I guess safety and numbers kind of thing, my guess is something along those lines happened, they all elk, clustered amongst each other and then the ETs of whoever zapped them and created all this carnage for whatever reason, now I hadn't heard what you described to me a moment ago about how the eyewitness had been taken on board and they'd seen elk, I hadn't heard that story, I've heard stories of people being taken on board and seen cattle, but it doesn't surprise me that they would go after elk, elk are big beautiful creatures, they've gone after dogs, they've gone after goats, they've gone after cattle, so it wouldn't surprise when they go after elk, but the point of relevance is a whole bunch of these elk, they determined there were 24 of them were just wiped out in a very brutal fashion, just remembered, cut up. Right, so going back to the overlay, like the holographic overlay, I guess you could say that would make a helicopter or a UFO appear as a helicopter, this is possibly the same type of technology that the reptilians would use to disguise themselves among us, and what's interesting right now is the entire world illusion that we're living in right now is fading, and they're not even hiding, like you would think they would be trying to hide, but they're not, they don't even care that we know their agenda, that we know that they're there, they know most of people are just going to laugh at off like, oh yeah, it's not real, whatever, but I would assume, and this is just speculation, it's a similar technology that the reptilians are using that the craft would use to mask themselves as something else. Good sleep should come naturally, and with a new natural hybrid mattress, it can. 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There is some debate amongst researchers, alien abduction researchers as to how the reptilians go about assuming a human guise. Some people describe it to some kind of holographic device of projection. I'm of the camp that believes that they just have the means to alter not only their visual image, but also literally change their physical exterior. Because people have described women who were having intercourse with an individual who began a shapeshift and the woman could feel like the big bumps in the back of the individual scaly skin the whole bit. So to me, that's not a hologram. To me, that's something physical in our dimension. So at least some of these reptilians have the means to shift back and forth. And there are probably certain means by which the reptilians use to maintain their human form. And maybe as time goes on, as the fundamental consequences are changing, they're having more difficulty holding their human shape, at least some of them. Right. And I mean, that would be a number, a whole cocktail of things. I'm sure that keep that illusion going, frequencies, blood, you know, draining from even, I forgot what else I was going to say. But it's a number of things. I don't think it's any just there's not there's a number of components. Yes, I agree to maintain the illusion. I have a question really quick. So why do you think they would they would disguise the craft as a helicopter or plane rather than just cloaking outright rather than just becoming invisible? Why do you think they would do that? I'm not sure as far as the motivations are concerned because that's a very good point. With the advent of infrared night vision equipment, people are seeing all kinds of crap that night fly around, which are not visible in the visible spectrum. So if that's a question, then why do they have to go to this extent where they have to conceal something in plain view, disguise its appearance? I don't know to pursue some kind of agenda. Those of us that have had these experiences over time, some of us were dogged by helicopters. I mean, I had people stay with me in San Diego and they would remark to me just how often they would hear helicopters in our neighborhood flying around sometimes hovering right over the roof. I was on the phone with Eve Lorgan the night before she was going to fly out of an airport in Orange County to go to Memphis, Tennessee. And then I was going to fly out of Lindbergh Field, San Diego to go to the same conference. And as we're talking, both of us experienced helicopters right over our houses. So I'm on the phone. You can hear a helicopter right over. I can hear a helicopter right over my roof, Evie at her end has got a helicopter right over her roof. And we're talking about, you know, all the different things we're going to be discussing at the conference coming up that we're going to fly out towards. So either that was deep black military just mucking with us or it was something else. It was like ET's or something mucking with this point meeting is that I think that the helicopter has kind of attained this subconscious status. For those of us in this field, even at the surface military level, you know, we think back to the Vietnam War very much about helicopter war. There's a militant aspect to helicopters is an intrusive aspect. There's this surveillance monitoring aspect. We were familiar with police helicopters, what have you. So almost, you know, my intuitive feeling is they assume the guys of helicopters A because they're a trust, they're very common mundane terrestrial craft. Secondly, there's kind of an ominous nature to them, like there unless you're on like some kind of tourist helicopter flying over Waikiki or something, you know, to people like us. It takes on helicopters, take on ominous connotation. It's like a psychological thing. Yes. Psychological. Yeah. In short, I should have said that long-winded. It's psychological warfare, essentially. Right. And you know, it's interesting. The next webinar we're getting ready to do for our Patreon is a voice of God, mind control. And one of the common themes with the voice of God technology is the black helicopters. And then even in some of the little illustrations, it shows a helicopter parked outside someone's house using that technology, you know, it goes right through the walls of the house. And they aren't just putting a voice in people's heads. They can give them a false dream, a false ET experience, whatever the case may be. Absolutely. So they're, they're using that manner too. And this is, they also hide under the guise of like a communications van or something like that, which I believe I've actually been a victim of at one, at one point, walking through a park. I'd noticed this van would like move every time I was going around this trail, this van would be in the parking, like a different parking lot. I saw four different parking lots while I was going around and I happened to break out with this really bad rash, these hives that day while I was just in the middle of that walk. And I didn't even put two and two together until a month later, but I'm like, I wonder if they were for some reason targeting me, but that's one way they do it. But I definitely know the black helicopters show up and, you know, along with this voice or used along with the voice of God technology. And then yes, absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind that some of these helicopters were directly involved in the targeted individual syndrome and the manipulation, harassment, abduction of my labs and other project people. Absolutely. Some of these are loaded down with, like, as you said, high-tech gear. I had spoken to people and I've heard accounts of, like, sometimes these mysterious blacks of urban and crown vix would show up at a UFO site, skidded windows even in the middle of the night. But, you know, when the windows are rolled down, some people would look onto the dashboard and it's not a dashboard, it's like a control panel, right? So, and people have been taken, abducted and pulled inside some of those vans you described. And they described to me that the interior of the vans would be just lined with, you know, high-tech equipment. So, I mean, they come loaded for bear, whether it's an aerial craft like a helicopter or it's a van or a crown bit. Right. I want to shift gears just a little bit. I heard you, I forget what interview I was listening to of yours. You guys were talking about universities and college professors being used in tangent with the agencies at the ISIA to recruit students. And I just, it's fascinating to me, you know, I think there's a reptilian consciousness working through some of these professors and I would just like to get your talk from that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, it's a well-established means of recruitment. You go back to World War II, British intelligence and American intelligence. They routinely hired professors in the various fields of study and these professors worked in the intelligence field, whether it was for code breaking or whether it was for running double agents, whatever the case may be. And then they would tap, i.e. recruit people from within the universities. The British tended to look for people of a certain breeding, that the whole bloodline never stop was the thing. So they would look for, you know, likely recruits from certain families, certain bloodlines, certain wealth backgrounds, if you will. And then they would ask them, depending on their aptitude and the proficiency, the things they were good at, and then they would put them in the intelligence community to fight against the Germans at times or whoever. And after World War II, that process continued, it never stopped. So these universities, especially the Poison Ivy League ones in America, but also Stanford and other ones, UCLA and the UC system in particular, were recruiting grounds for people. Because these universities, many of them were funded with defense contracts. A lot of them were involved in behavioral studies research. Think of Dr. Lowe as a Joe in West in UCLA, right, and he was intimately involved with my controlling Patty hers. All these different people, Joe in West kept showing up as like a court appointed, come back and laugh because it's funny, I'm just laughing ridiculous, a court appointed expert witness to study the psychology of these mind-controlled people, many of whom he himself mind-controlled. So this nexus between the universities, the talent spotters amongst the professors and the college staff looking for likely recruits and what they've done over time. If you remember that guy who allegedly shot up the Virginia Tech University, Chu, I think he was a South Korean national originally, that was a classic example of a guy whose family was by South Korean standards well off, had connections with South Korean intelligence that were brought to America and Chu eventually enrolled in that school. He was probably plugged into some kind of mind-controlled project and then either he was the real shooter or one of the shooters or the Patsy for wiping out allegedly all these students in Virginia Tech, right, and then of course they find all these videos and all these manifestos, the guys apparently written, right, but point being is that that's a classic example of a guy who came from a foreign family, a South Korean, it was tapped, identified by intelligence even before they left Korea, brought over to the U.S. and the guy which plugged into this mind-controlled program. So they cast a wide net of these universities and these talent spotters and now if you look at the communist model, how they do it, and the communist Lusafurian model, you look at the Cambridge spies for example, classic example where the four predecessors of the KGB and then the GRU also, the Soviet military intelligence, they knew that these sons of these established aristocratic families going to be tapped and within the way of their system works are eventually going to get into the good colleges, the good preparatory schools first, the good colleges and then they wind up in the foreign office, they wind up in MI6, et cetera, et cetera. So what the Soviets said was, why don't we recruit them while they're still in college so when they get out of college, they work for us, right? Right. I definitely know like the whole infrastructure is set up and the steer people into these programs and the recruitment, the whole recruitment process, but the whole point being is that the reptilian consciousness is working through these people. These entities are working through them and then that's the real issue we have here. Even among people within the truth or community and influencers, I think they're being affected by the same type of thing nowadays. Well, yes, what they used to refer to as the spirit of accusation, right? These people that were under some kind of demonic maligned influence and they're accusing everybody of everything. They want to put these big scarlet letters on people and then hang them out to dry, right? Well, we see that all the time in our field. These accusations of this person or that person's controlled opposition, it wouldn't surprise me if the term controlled opposition, just like the term conspiracy theory was created by someone within the intelligence community because it's such a far-reaching slur. It could apply to anyone or anything. So if someone disagrees with you or doesn't necessarily believe what you believe, oh, they're controlled opposition or if someone becomes successful or they have a large following or they sell like nutrient supplements on their website, oh, they're in it for the money controlled opposition, right? So we get a lot of that and what it does is it plays on whatever unresolved traumatic issues that they've got, whatever kind of maligned entity, quite frankly, influences working through them, this whole controlled opposition thing takes on a life of its own. I could play the same game. Oh, you don't know that reptilian's control planet Earth, you're a controlled opposition. I could play the same exact game, but that would be silly on my part, right? Because only so many people at this point are aware of that level of deception and control. So what we're seeing once again, and we see this play out in many different ways. They always strive to achieve an emotional reaction within people. Let me give you an example. There's a difference between, let's say, a virus or a pathogen or something, okay, in our hypothetical example. Let's say that it has never been isolated from a living patient, a living person supposedly afflicted with whatever the pathogen is. Okay, that's point one point two is let's say that there's evidence like Dr. David Martin has proven to my satisfaction that, you know, patents had been taken out for the alleged cure for these pathogens, right? And let's say that he's satisfied along with others that this pathogen that we're all supposed to be scared of is nothing more than a computer-generated gene sequence, okay? That is not the same as saying that pathogens don't exist, okay? Those are two different things at work that people conflate them for the point now where if someone says, "Oh, you know, I've got this bug x, y, z," oh, well, you don't really have a bug, you're promoting these falsehoods, these bugs don't exist. These bugs are just a computer-generated gene sequence, right? So what they do is they can't see the forest for the trees. These pathogens do exist, people really do get sick from being around sick people, as symptomatic people, something is really going around. But the divisions and artificial fractures have been set up to the point where even if like a truthera says, "Well, you know, I went traveling the other day and I flew on a plane and I came back and I'm really sick," there's these people that are saying, "Oh, no, you're not really sick. There's nothing really going around," right? Which is nonsense. There's things that are going around all over the place, pathogens do exist. But see, what they do, they can't separate the research of what some people have done with what's actually going around in the real world, you see? So I mean, that's probably as clear as mud, that example that I gave you. But that's just an example in the recent past of how these fault lines, these artificial fault lines have been created and we see this with the flat earth, we see this with nuclear weapons don't exist, nuclear weapons are hoax. I think what's happened, fellows, is that so many of these people in the so-called truth community, I'm not talking about the ones that are outright deceivers, outright deception artists. I'm talking about ones that just, they don't have an intuitive background anymore. They don't have the ability to suss out bogus from real information. They have to keep searching and listening to countless podcasts and watching countless interviews to try to make their minds up about something. They've lost the ability, or they never had the ability to intuitively suss out whether something is bogus or not. And that's the problem. So when people say that this is a hoax, and that is a buzzword and a trigger word if there ever was one, this is a hoax, this is a saia. That's controlled opposition for people that are already at a very deep level didn't personally hurt either by those that they trusted and loved or hurt by the institutions that have been created that ostensibly are here for our benefit or to help us. When people have been hurt and backstabbed to that extent, when they hear trims like hoax, saia, distractions, I mean there was a guy on, I didn't even watch the video, but the thumbnail said, uh… Good sleep should come naturally, and with a new natural hybrid mattress, it can. 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Oh, the January 6th videos are just a nothing burger, right? It's not a nothing burger to the political prisoners who've been kept and tortured every day since January 6th, it's not a nothing burger that the videos exist of the two shaman guy being escorted to the Capitol Building. That's not a saia, and what they did also, for example, when the whole pizza gate erupted. Oh, pizza gate is a distraction, how is it a distraction? Hillary Clinton is directly involved, how is that a distraction? Exposing truth is never a distraction, it's exposed. That's what's going on, I don't even know if I answered your question. It doesn't matter, I love it, I love it, keep going. But the point being is that, and now what we've seen, and I'm glad actually we went in this direction, is you and I and Erin know that aliens are real, UFOs are real, you did the UFOs for Dummies thing, which is great, I'm really glad you guys did that. Thank you. What they've done now, because you see, it's ironic, but a lot of these people that are chanting bleeding in sheet fashion, blue bean, blue bean, this is all just a distraction, this is a fake alien invasion, what's happened is, and it's ironic, see, the ones who bleed blue bean all the time and don't believe in aliens, they get this, they trusted the science, all those years that there's science professors in high school and in college and at TV people, we're telling them that aliens don't exist, this is between star systems are too vast, impossible to get here, a total misapplication and misunderstanding of OCam's razor, OCam's razor actually goes the other direction, if all these crafting beings are being reported by countless people down to the ages, the simplest explanation is these beings from other worlds figure out a way to get here, okay, they've gotten here, they've established bases, they've been here all along, that's OCam's razor in a nutshell, but their argument is based on the religion of scientism, well science, essentially the same, science tell us they can't get here, you know, because the technology doesn't exist, well it doesn't exist here that we're aware of, but it does exist here, in the deep black era space corporations in a deep black military, exactly, point being is that they follow the science, not only that, but they allowed themselves to be unwitting dupes, because with denial comes ridicule, that was a two, and also outright harassment assassination depending on the case, but denial and debunking from aid academics, again, the concept of academics, professors, scientists who were actively debunking UFOs for so long, on the one hand, but also the ridicule factor, yeah, when someone sticks their head up above, we've seen this play out in very different fields, whether it's, you know, health medicine, or whatever the case may be, or 9/11, there's always going to be these people pop up, say that's a crazy conspiracy theory from a crazy conspiracy theorist, well, that's been going on for decades with UFO witnesses and AT witnesses, the ridicule factor, so these blue beomers, as I call them, not only did they follow the science and how to follow the science work the last few years, not only did they follow the science and say with complete a priori misunderstanding of the whole UFO alien syndrome, and believe, look at face value, what the academic said, but they went along with the ridicule factor, so they became unwitting assets to this wicked evil depopulating control system, essentially a non-human control system, that's the irony at work here, so all these truth is out there screaming blue being, this is a distraction, they follow the science, they'll never admit it, but they follow the bogus science, and also you look at the people who don't consider themselves truth is wouldn't be considered truth is by us, they were just your average everyday skeptic, they're in a quandary now, but because they believe the official stories of 9/11 of JFK of the last few years, and then something that they've been told to not believe and not only not believe, but to ridicule anyone who does believe in, i.e. aliens and UFOs, now they're being told, oh it's an existential threat, these balloons are a reminder to Steve Martin in the jerk movie, the cans, the cans, you know, the balloons, the balloons, so we have that going on, is it a distraction, yes it's a distraction, okay, but there's a whole back story, which i'm glad you guys are bringing out, like there's a book that's just come out called non-human by Gary Asseltine, I've had him on my show, it'll be coming out pretty soon, but he has written up till this point the definitive book about Red Ocean Forest, RAF Benwaters, Woodbridge, and that was the case when there was actually a landed UFO craft, aliens got out of it, military people were there, it was filmed with the state-of-the-art movie cameras at the time, this is December 1980, bulky kind of camera, a gear to be sure compared to what we have now, but it was filmed and documented, the whole thing, there were dozens and dozens of witnesses, finally that's starting to come out, but they want to keep the attention riveted on so-called tic tacs on balloons, you see what I mean, so the real nitty gritty, the real cases that you can really sink your teeth into, that lets us know that there is a non-human force here influencing malignly, indeed, the human race, that gets left by the wayside, instead we have blue beam, we have balloons, we have jet shooting down balloons, I mean it's reached them, the point I am, absurdity really. So, it is a distraction on one level, because we had all the trained derailments, environmental health crisis happening, and all the news we report on is these craft in the sky that were being shot down and feeding us that narrative, so in that regard, yeah, but I do understand and agree with where you're coming from. Also, the Vendelson Forest incident, I know Carrie Cassidy talked about, she had interviewed some of those whistleblowers, or witnesses, I should say, not whistleblowers, and she's noticing a phenomenon, now some of the witnesses are suddenly changing their story, or not wanting to comment on it anymore, and it's really interesting that her, either they're being threatened or just something is going on, or mind controlled, why are these people suddenly changing their story, it's just another interesting... It is, and there are some people, they never change your tune, Larry Warren, and now retired Staff Sergeant Adrian Bistinza, Bistinza essentially confirmed Larry Warren's story, without saying so, he confirmed in so many ways that, and this was in an interview, the three-way phone conversation between Linda Mullen, how Larry Warren and Adrian Bistinza, where Bistinza basically agreed that he had seen the same thing Larry had seen, without saying what he'd seen, that that makes sense, right? Yeah, I saw the same thing, and basically Adrian Bistinza said that Larry was several feet in front of him, closer to the craft, closer to the beings, and so when Adrian Bistinza says, "I saw the same thing Larry did," right, well he's basically confirming that what Larry saw was aliens, and he saw the same thing. And another thing also, as far as all the tic-tac videos and all the pilot reports, if you remember the National Press Club Conference in Washington, D.C., I think Steven Greer put it together? 2001, yeah. Exactly, alone, as far as I know, alone amongst all the other witnesses, there were supposed to be another witness there, a good friend of mine, I don't know for many years, I know a story inside out, Guy Kirkwood, in 1954, he was part of a four-plane detachment specially trained to fly back and forth between, I think it was Salt Lake City Airport and, correct not, and I may be wrong about this, but Larry Air Force Base in Colorado, but it could be wrong about the latter. Anyway, there were tasked with flying back and forth, hoping to get an intercept of UFOs and get the intercept on gun camera footage, which they did on a few occasions. Well, he was slated, he was asked by Steven Greer to show up at the conference in Washington, D.C. The day before he was going to fly out, he'd get some serious phone call, and he's told if you show up to that conference in D.C., we're going to burn your house down. He lived in East County, San Diego, at the time I lived in Claremont, another suburb in San Diego, so the point of relevance and the significance of that is, he would have been telling the audience and reporters, however few showed up at the time, that back in 1954, they already had gun camera footage, a specially trained mission to intercept and photo document the intercept of UFOs, it was a specific asking that this unit was trained to do, okay? So that preceded by 70 years thereabouts, all this infrared footage, all this videotape from the Navy pilots, et cetera, et cetera, so hindsight is 20/20, but it doesn't, now when I think about it, it makes sense that he would get the threats compared to everyone else, because they didn't want this notion getting out, of course, military pilots would be the first in the disclosure process to be the ones, the point people, if you will, for getting disclosure out, but they didn't want that disclosure to come from a pilot back in 1954, okay? So, too many people would believe it, because it's coming from a military pilots and military sources. And we're programmed to think that these military pilots are the most credible, or any pilot in general, so that you have credibility there. Yeah, it would have destroyed their agendas of what, you know, they didn't want anyone taking any of this seriously or thinking it's real at that point. Right. Well, also, by keeping it at the tic-tac level, and even that tic-tac video, it's completely taken out of context, because in the old days, we used to call them cigar-shaped craft, barrel-shaped, cylindrical shape, now because I guess the recommend is common these days, it's a tic-tac, right? But at the outset of that video, which they don't talk about, is these so-called tic-tacs were hovering just above the wave tops, and beneath, just beneath the waves, was what seemed to be a large submerged craft, okay? So, what we used to call, in the old days, a mother craft, it was very common in the old days, 40, 50, and 60s, to see a number of dish-shaped crafts come in and out of the cigar-shaped craft, okay? So, what we have here at the outset of that video, which they never talked about, is there is a submerged, seemingly large cylindrical-type object, and just above it were these tic-tacs. So, they don't talk about that aspect of it, right? And what I've heard people say is, "Oh, these are drones." That's just the most ridiculous thing. They're going to spend all this time and effort to give these fantastic capabilities to drones, where the radar operators said they were disappeared at one place, and then wind up 20 miles of white instantaneously. You're going to put that kind of technology into a drone, right? Right. It's on the face of it, it's absurd, right? You just reminded me of something I wanted to mention earlier. You brought a blue beam, which I do think the blue beam holographic technology does exist. Oh, yeah, absolutely it does. You know, the way you were talking before you were acting like, you know, it was insane that that's the case, but I do think it's possible that some of the craft that they want us to see could be their blue beam, or holographic technology, so they can give us that narrative, you know? It's something that we have to at least consider. Oh, I agree with you. I agree with you. It's not all one thing. Right. You know, my point, just to interject, and I'd like to hear your thoughts and continue, but it's like, we live in a reptilian sphere of influence. So for people to say that it's all, aliens are all fake, that's like putting the cart before the horse, because these reptilians and other beings have controlled this planet for so long. So anyway, please continue. No, no, so you're right. Yeah, I see what your argument is that the people who are saying it's blue beam are trying to also say that aliens don't exist. Right. But something you brought up in one of your previous interviews was the muting of consciousness. And I'd like you to go into that a little further and explain to our audience what you mean by that when you say they're trying to mute our consciousness. Well, in the old days, a well-rounded, holistic type person. And in the old days, science and mysticism were two sides of the same coin, cut from the same cloth. There was an understanding and also back then a lot of people understood the nature of ether physics. This is before Einstein, before general relativity, before special relativity, this notion of they keep trying to come up with names of it, right? You know, the theory of everything. But generally, people back in a day, and you didn't have to be a shaman or a medicine person, a medicine man, medicine woman, to know this, right? That everything was connected, that we are a microcosm of a larger macrocosmic multiverse, essentially, right? All that stuff was taken for granted. Now, what's happened is we've gone from that understanding, that sensibility to, you know, pushing Gardasil vaccines on young boys, even though young boys don't have cervixes, right? So the people pushing that, it's like they flunked basic anatomy. But because of the muting of consciousness, the shame-based trauma background, so many of us have, where we can't find a voice to speak up and say, "Ah, that's nonsense. Boys don't have cervixes." Okay. This followed a leader, shame-based, people pleasing mentality. And you look at the, we talked again earlier, we talked about the malign influence of the schools or the universities, what have you. If you look what they've done, just fragmenting the consciousness, fragmenting the logical thinking part of the brain and replacing it with this, all this emotionalism, if you look like a common core math problem, right, like two plus two equals four, but then what they do is they have all these commas, all these parentheses, and they over-complicate things. That's an example of fragmenting and muting consciousness. And if you look at how the media is presented and how entertainment is presented, everything is in these soundbites. Nothing is presented in full form. 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If those institutions go down, you're going to see mass writing on the streets and then forget about any kind of reason or common sense or higher logic, then it's going to be mass chaos. And that's what they want. You know, you're in a luciferium, satanically controlled world when confusion, rage, and unrequited rage in particular is the norm. It is what passes for research, what passes for news reporting. If you notice the news reporting is all very salt, a linsky, I just directed at certain people, certain institutions, certain ways of thinking, traditional ways of thinking, marriage, love, family, all that stuff is considered like an extra misthought nowadays, right? So that's what I mean by muting of consciousness, where we have been detached generally from that intuitive divine source connection, where you can look at something and just intuitively know that it's not right, but there's something wrong with it, right? Instead, what they've done is, and this goes back to the supplanting of a symbol language which speaks to us at a soul level with alphabet language, because alphabet language is inherently a left brain construct. And if you are making the language and you create a whole bunch of taboos and a whole bunch of dogmas and you create indoctrination systems, religions, whatever the case may be, think about the early ancient astronomer priesthoods, right? And you think of the Latin mass where you would have these Celtic people sitting there, the mass would be in Latin, it's like, what the hell's this guy even saying? That's an extreme example what I'm talking about. So the intuitive symbol language, which speaks to us at a soul level, has been replaced by an alphabet language, which is inherently left brain construct, but rather than give us real information, they give us dogmas, taboos, all this other stuff. And so if you look at people today, there are people I know that are so calming and infested. And these are young people that, just like that Soviet defector said decades ago, that Yuri Besumov, I can't even remember his last name, but he said something to the effect that once demoralization occurs, it doesn't matter how much proof photographic evidence documentation you provide, it will not matter anymore. And I would go further and say that no matter what proof you provide, it will engender an emotional reaction out of these people. And that's the whole idea. Just one quick example, it's time I got left. Hillary Clinton said, you can probably still see the video on YouTube, we, the US government, get our marching orders from the council on foreign relations. What does that mean, right? What do you mean the US government gets us marching orders from the council on foreign relations? And then when you try to explain that to somebody who's been thus demoralized, it's going to engender a negative reaction. Because they lack the intellectual capacity, and Barbie Bartholik went my mentor, went further. She said most people, by that stage, she told me this 20, 30 years ago, she said most people today simply don't have the neural capacity for the neural network to understand any of this, this being this whole manipulation. And another quote, Alan Greenspan said on TV, he said, we're not the federal reserve is not part of the US government, we don't get instructions from the US government. What does that mean? If you try to explain that to somebody who's been excreted from this indoctrination system, are you going to get as a negative emotional reaction? Because they literally don't have the neural pathways set up to understand any of this. So you try to take the time and say, explain that it's a private corporation that controls the financial system of an entire world, that just conflicts so much for their programming. Again, you get an emotional reaction. That's what I mean by the muting of consciousness. And so when they mute consciousness on the one hand, and then they keep us in this lower bandwidth of fear, of trepidation, and also vulgarity, perversity, all this other stuff, that is right for exploitation. So I don't know if I answered your question, but when one talks about muting of consciousness, that's what I think of. And the one last point about that is, and you know, God bless them, I mean, I'm a humanitarian, I believe in divinity, and I have hope for everyone. But when you know, when you get around normal people, quote unquote, that don't know what we know, and I don't say this in the latest sense, but they just, and I'm not one that dwells on negativity or fear or anything like that, I just like to be aware of what's going on, like a real intel analyst. And then when I get around these people that are completely oblivious to this, or any of this, you know, my heart goes out to them. I feel sorry for them that they've been, the consciousness is muted to such an extent, they're not even aware of the nature of the multiple threat environment they're in. A newborn fawn knows that it's in a dangerous environment. A newborn chicken can tell by the shadow, reflected off the shadow blocking the sun, if a hawk is flying overhead, right? And it has an instinctive recoil, has an instinctive fear. Humans, by and large, have been detached from that internal guidance radar system. And that's one of the biggest problems. So what's going to happen is going forward, we're going to be hit with more and more disasters, more and more catastrophes, etc, etc. And these people will literally be like, you know, during the headlights and they're going to be the ones that demand all this austerity, all these strictures in order to save the planet, etc, etc. Yeah, we have, you know, they're also attacking our attention span, they want everybody, they don't want us to be able to sustain a thought long enough to even question these things. And that's why you have these 10 to 15 to one minute long videos past a minute, people are like, okay, next, you know, TikTok, Instagram, and all all of the social media platforms are adopting them now. So that's another aspect of it. It's instant gratification. It's the dopamine here. Right, right. But there is an element to this that I would like to end on is that there is a large number of people waking up and see us and doing something about this. And I'd like to just unwraping this up kind of focus on that, like what people can do. And the positive movement is simultaneously taking place. Well, the direction that I'm coming from is the fact that a planet earth is under a malign alien influence. We are in a reptilian sphere of influence. And it's playing itself out manifesting in so many ways, the perversities and abominations that are being presented as the norm. And if you disagree with that norm, then you're an extremist, right? So people should take note of that and say, okay, where does this come from? What's the origin of all this? And take a note from what the ancients and the mystics from time immemorial have told us that there are these non human beings that are pulling the strings and manipulating humanity for their ends. If one looks at it from that standpoint, then everything starts to make sense. Like what happened in East Palestine, Ohio, that's an attack on the entire biosphere, on the entire ecosystem. Everything down to the microbial level is being negatively impacted by that. So to suggest that it's just power met bankers that are behind this, that's cladding the issue. They're overcomplicating things. Again, Ocam's razor comes into play. Because clearly, the force that's behind such things as Fukushima, the Gulf platform, horizon disaster, East Palestine, Ohio, they want to destroy life as we know it. So when we can unite as people, as humans and say, okay, now we understand we're up against this non human force. They've been telling us this all along in their movies and Netflix and everything else. Then we can put aside our petty differences, right? And then we can say, okay, now we can start goal setting. Now we can start implementing the changes that we need to see in order to throw off this cosmic bachelor's, throw off this yoke of non human control. I do believe that a certain segment of humanity will survive all of this. I'm absolutely certain of that. I'd like to see more people survive, the more the merrier. But if people keep fighting amongst themselves and seeing others, the authority figures define others as their mortal enemies, the Putin or Trump or anyone else, then they're going to miss the boat. Because this is non human and origin. If we band together and realize that we humans are up against the hostile alien force, we can overcome this. Look, there's nowhere else I'd rather be Aaron and Tyler. This is where it's all going down. If someone said to me, okay, you know, at the outset of all this, partly you have a choice. You can, you can sit this one out, opt out in some higher dimensional plane and not have to worry about this or get into the slide. This is where I, where else am I going to be, right? Right? Right. Words all going down. So, you know, that's that's the attitude that I'd like to get across to others. But hey, thank you to you guys for doing the work that you're doing. And also, as far as one quick point before I got to go, you talked about the voice to skull, the helicopters involved in the mind control. I've got a, I just interviewed a fantastic guest that was introduced to me by Jeff Brady, the four mentioned Jeff Brady. David Case, he had invented a computer because he was an electron of genius, basically. He invented a computer that worked on photonic light principles. He took it to the patent office. Within days, I started getting blasted by Tinnitus in the ears and it's loud, screeching in his head. Anyway, long story short, he created a sound frequency, which negates that. And I've, he's been on Jeff Brady's show in the recent past in other news radio. You can find the interview and he's going to be coming out on my show pretty soon. So that's a guide that I think would be great on your show because it's just one of those sleeping tigers that were woken up. It's like, you know, they thought they can just remotely electronically harass him like anyone else. No, he turned around and he created a device that's helping countless other targeted individuals overcome this. So the tide has turned fellas. We're, we're making significant strides. Yeah, I definitely want to watch that interview and I'd love to know as much about that device as possible because I can add it to the webinar. It would be a great way to end the webinar to talk about, you know, a solution. So thank you so much for joining us. This was great. Aaron, did you want to add anything before we wrap this up? No, just thank you so much. Yeah, just, you did a wealth of information and you're doing amazing work. So keep it up. Thank you, Aaron. Thank you, Tyler. Right. Thank you so much. Guys, go check out James is actually, I'll let you tell people how to find you, but cosmic switchboard is your website, right? Yeah, the cosmic switchboard.com. You can find me on Twitter under cosmic switch 29 and you can find me on Facebook, James Bartley 148. So I guess there's 147 James Bartley's before me. So James Bartley 148 on Facebook. All right, perfect. And we'll put your information in the description below. Guys, come hang out with us in Grafton in May. If you can make it, we'd love to see their tickets are still available at journey2truthcon.com. Thank you so much, James, for joining us. Until next time, have a great evening. Good night. Thank you. There was a CIA director named William Colby, who in the 1980s said, we'll know our disinformation campaigns are successful when everything the American people believe is fake. When we realize how powerful we are, when we set our intentions, and we realize that we aren't just this, we are just these multi-dimensional light beings, and time is an illusion, and you know, it's everything's a perception, then you can go forward and backwards and embody it and just pop out and go and do this work. You can do amazing things when we set the right intentions to do it. And I said, this is us on this plane. You know, that's what this is. We're going to the moon. And you say, this thing is a lot older than you think it is. We've been going to the moon a long time. But I wrote on it. I knew that we went to the moon. And so I always knew there was a base on the moon from a young age. And our DNA is a complex recording system of the history of the entire universe, the history, you know, of everything, that not just this timeline that we know, but multiple timelines of reality. There are a total of nine different categories of planets in the universe. We people on earth, we are living on category one planet, like elementary school students, and the students, they're living on category nine planet, like college professors. So they have been really guiding us throughout history. To help them let us know that this facility under the Sandy Mountain is considered an information station for interstellar travelers coming to the planet. They tell us that their facility was retrofitted into the ancient tunnel system that already existed. And as far as the bending of space time continuum, I've had something like that happen. And what seemed like about a five minute encounter has been four and a half hours. A missing time. And I was completely conscious. And what are you dealing with a type three, type four, type five civilizations that can work with the different coexisting timelines? All bets are off. You know, every time we have Bigfoot activity out there, we're having ETs and orbs and stuff like that. We have a lot of the stuff documented. As a matter of fact, I'm a member of three different teams. And I work with people from all over the country out in the field. And we actually have documented a portal, something that we consider to be a portal opening. And we sent two of our team members inside of it and really disappeared and then came back out. I would suggest that we take it one step further and say humanity has never known who we are. We've always been in the fucking full matrix. And one step further, perhaps we could say that we're in a conscious, consciously controlled state of hypnosis. In other words, are the thought control matrix creators constantly bombarding us with frequencies that keep us from being telepathic, that keep us from remembering who we are, the thought control matrix was set up. And we have never known our potential, our power, our beauty, our incredible connection. It makes no sense at all. There is no reason for it other than the programming that we've received for generations because it's all about order. It's all about listen to listen to your elders, listen to the teachers, listen to the adults, listen, listen, listen. And what that does is it dims the light of the child and it makes them feel like they don't have a voice. And why that's designed that way by the dark side and that's in the system is so that they grow up and they just listen to and they do what they're told and they're good little boys and good little girls and they lose their sense of self. They lose their north, their true north. So many adults are walking around in this world. They don't know who they are. So the planet itself is now beginning to split. It's beginning to divide again into a higher vibrational earth and a lower vibrational earth. And the race of man is dividing with it. And we're becoming less and less aware of one another. 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