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Late into the night, we were able to see history. The Chicago White Sox right here on the proud home of the Chicago White Sox, ESPN 1000, was able to tie the all-time record 21 straight losses on their win at 24 as the Sox lose five to one to the A's. The ineptitude sees no end. It's unbelievable that the Sox continue to make history the wrong way. - I stayed up like many of you. I know you did. I thought, oh, hoodie's got the late night, West Coast baseball and it's Sox. I have it when it's Cubs. No, this is history. We need the drop, J-Moor, the night or the day. Remember when Burley threw the perfect game? - Oh, yeah. - And on the final out, ground ball, and you heard, "Hawk, history, history!" We need that drop because it is history. They have tied the American League record with the Baltimore Orioles who, for them, did it the first 21 games of the season. - Yes. - And then they won. White Sox go for ultimate history tonight to have the A-L record. And then if they lose today and they lose tomorrow, they mercifully get a day off, fly home, and play Friday at home against the Cubs with Garrett Crochet getting a brief, no more than 75-pitch start. So we'll see where this whole thing goes, but it is literally embarrassing. And I told you before we started, my perspective is not just focused on the day to day. I think it's literally unconscionable that the owner has not come out and spoke. If I was the owner, and that's what I put together, I would come out and say, "Look, folks, this isn't Chris's fault. This isn't Pedro's fault. This is my fault." And I need to talk to my fan base. I will move heaven and earth, do whatever I can within our power to try and get this thing fixed. I apologize to all of you who buy our gear, wear our hats, stay up late, watch our games, your families are Sox fans, and it's on me and nobody else. - Well, Cap, you'd have to care to do that. You'd have to care about the overall product to do that. You see, when you have the narrative for decades that's about the bottom line, it's about the money, what you try to do is you try to get around that narrative by saying, "No, yes, it's about being able to make money, but also I care about winning." And there's the difference right there. To the average Sox fan, ask anybody from the back of the yard to the western suburbs from around the country that are White Sox fans. Ask him about Jerry Rhines-Dorf. And even though we know the man as a good person on the surface, the business side of it is a problem for many White Sox fans. You must care, Cap. You must care to be able to step out and say, "Hey, you know what, we're going in the wrong direction, but we're going to get this fixed." He's not going to do that. Too proud of a man to do that. Because he'll say, "Look at the resume. Look at the championships I brought here. It doesn't matter. What is going on today?" The past is the past, but what's going on today? But see, he's too proud to do that, Cap. Hiding is the worst thing right now. It is hiding, hiding to the point where you're the lead story on ESPN.com. It's truly embarrassing. And if I could say to him, "Jerry, these are not personal attacks that I'm launching or others. There's some who do. That's fine." That's your thing. I'm talking to you, business man to business man, competitor to competitor. Like, come out, have a press conference and say, "Okay, this is on me. I grossly overestimated what we had last year. We'll play that cut later. We have to." Waddle until we had it yesterday, where Jerry, last year at the press conference, literally said, "I like our core. We're going to be that much better." No! You don't have a core. You didn't have a core. No. No. You can't BS the fans of Chicago. You got to understand that, though. We've seen too much, Cap. We're not kids. We're grown adults with a mortgage. And we all understand that we have to be able to look at this White Sox team coming into the season. I said, "Cap, this team isn't going anywhere. They can lose in excess of 100 games because of who they are." You look at the roster. You know a winning team when you see one. And this was not a winning team. Let's go back to last night, Jay Moore. The sad call from a Len Casper and Darren Jackson at the end of that one as the Sox lose the A's five to one. Sanzell swings and misses. And the A's send the White Sox to their 21st consecutive loss that ties the AL mark set by the 88 Orioles. It's so bad that the A's are playing celebration just for because they've been bad, too, but they're playing celebration because they help the Sox to this mark right now. As a White Sox fan, I could not be more disappointed. That angry cap disappointed. You know, Cap, there was a difference when Dad was angry versus being disappointed. Correct. The disappointment lingered for a while. It hit your heart. Him being mad, that could just be mad for the moment and then he moves on. The disappointment lingers in the heart of a kid. That's how I feel as a White Sox fan. I'm more disappointed than anything else because Jerry Rhines-Dorf who loves baseball so much, right? We trade those Bulls championships for more World Series championships with the White Sox. Treats his organization like it's nothing. Yeah, it's truly embarrassing where it's at. Like when the Cubs went, like in, I'll give you O2, I think they went 67 and 95. They felt so awful. And that's my favorite team and God, 67 and 95. 67 and 95. This team isn't within miles of 67 and 95. We're talking about 61 games under 500 on the 6th of August. That's almost an impossibility. And the fact that you haven't spoken to your fan base, I find offensive. I really do. I find that offensive that you don't come out at some point and say, look, this is on no one else but me. And I'm giving Chris a mandate. We got to get this fixed. I can't tell you we're going to win the World Series next year. But what I can't tell you is, this will not happen again because we are going to go out and try and make moves to it, get this thing stabilized. And it's no one's fault but me. Don't put this on Chris. We didn't give him a lot of money to spend. Don't put this on Pedro. We gave him a bad roster. It's on one person, me. That's how I'd handle it. Yeah, it's on their way to 24 losses. This is the Shays Road of 24. And it's very likely to happen. Now, here's what's interesting for context cap. We also always have to give context from the past to move forward to the present, right? So I remember in high school watching this Orioles 88 team because it'd be in the newspaper. As a matter of fact, I believe in that losing streak they took on the White Sox. I believe they were at Kamiskey Park. And I just remember Frank Robinson's sad face from the dugout from the back of the sun times. Like, oh my god, this team's so bad. That season, they fired Cal Ripken Sr. He went on six and they fired him for Frank Robinson. Robinson went on to have a 54 and 101 record. It was 54 and 107 that year for the Orioles. Let me ask you a question. You think this team would be where the White Sox are? This 54 win ball club for the Orioles in 88 had. Mickey Tennleton, the former A, remember? Eddie Murray at first. Billy Ripken at second. Cal Ripken Jr. at shortstop. This is on the bad team. The worst team we thought at the time with the Orioles. Rick Shoe, the old Philly at third, right? Pete Stanizek in left. Fred Lin, the center fielder. The old pirate Joe Orslack played right. Larry Sheets was the DH. Yeah, I mean, that ball club would be a contender today, right? Compared to this. Cal Ripken Jr. is on that team. Eddie Murray is on that team. OK, a pitching staff of Jim Traeber. No, let me take a look at the pitching staff. Scott McGregor was on that team. Don Asse, two A's in Asse. Mike Morgan, Bob Malachi, Mike Morgan. Pete Harness was also on that team. And so was Dickie Knowles, the old club. They're like 3X cubs in there, right? That lineup, by the way, would be a playoff team compared to what the White Sox brought up there every night. Right, and so that's why, if I could say anything to Jerry, he didn't want to talk to me, and that's fine. Jerry, call a press conference. Fall on your sword, apologize to your fan base, and then give Chris the checkbook to a degree. They're not going to spend with the Phillies, or the Yankees, or the Mets, or the Rangers, or even the Cubs. They're not going to spend that. OK, you could put a decent product on the field instead of asking your fan base to come out to this heritage night, and come out to that hat night, and bring your dog night, but we're going to put a double A club out there. Yeah. That is a joke. In Chicago. That's embarrassing, man. But that's where they are. And I know all this falls at the feet of Pedro Grafalle. And if you've heard me talk about Pedro Grafalle, I said at the time, just another A to B hire. Not a guy that's going to be able to move the meter at all in the city with Pedro Grafalle. Here's Pedro after the game as the Sox lose 5 to 1. Good job of base running. I thought he kept his feet moving over there at their base. He was kind of shuffling. You know, he shuffled back a little bit. It was just a really heads-up play. I thought Corey looked him back, made a strong throw to first base, and it just laid out the plate. It's 21 in a row. That's the American League record. It ties the record. I know it's nothing you want to be associated with. We talk about it every day. Everybody knows what it is. It's 21 in a row. It sucks. It's not fun. It's painful. It hurts. And you name it. Whatever you want to-- however you want to describe it. Like I said, it's not for lack of effort. Nobody wants to come out here and lose. So we just got to put a good game together, and put the spines. But good pace running, though. I mean, we'll start with the positive first, because you've got to have the complement sandwich. And that sandwich is a crap sandwich, by the way. And Kai Bush, the rookie who came up thrust into a really tough spot. He only gave up two hits and four innings, three runs. But he walked five. He had to be nervous. You're making your Major League debut. And hey kid, here you go. There's the ball we lose. We tie the Major League-- or the American League record. Yeah. I thought he battled. He competed. He tried. I did. I'm just looking at that team, and it's just-- I mean, it's truly sad for people. You, my dear brother Bruce, friends of mine who are die-hard Sox fans, die-harts. And what you're being put through, there's bad seasons, man. I'm disappointed that the Cubs are not going to go to the playoffs last night. Some guy, Festa. Festa? This guy shut us out? That's a joke. That said, they're at least competitive. They just took three or four for the Cardinals. They jammed the ballpark. People have a good time. My wife went to the game with her sister. I say, she said, I'll be honest. The offense was horrible. I had a good time. It was crowded, 30-something. This team? This team does not deserve to play a fill-in stadium on the north side, where Sylvia and I played in the Little League. They don't deserve to play in decent facilities. They're a joke. Well, because it's a joke, we just continue to watch the losses. It's a joke because you're a national embarrassment, not just local embarrassment, because maybe that doesn't affect Jerry as much. But again, when you're on ESPN, when everyone's talking about you and pointing and laughing at you, I guess that doesn't affect him either because he hasn't said anything. It doesn't affect him, Cap. Your passion is not what Jerry Reistorf has. He does not. I've made the parallel to you. Made the example of just grandma or grandpa, you go into the home and the dishes have been piled up because they don't care anymore. They're just living for another day. That's how Jerry looks at it. Because if Jerry cared, there'd be a statement. If Jerry cared, he would treat this particular organization like a major market. You say that the Sox are not gonna spend on the same level of the Cubs or other teams. That's an excuse though. You should. You're in Chicago. You should be competitive. Well, I know that they don't have the revenue streams that the Cubs have. They don't draw, the Cubs have doubled the amount of season tickets. I understand there are financial limitations. I'm, again, I'm not expecting Jerry to go. All right, we're gonna go get Bryce Harper and Aaron Nola and Nick Castellanos and Kyle Schruer. Okay, that's fine. Tampa doesn't spend at that level either. They don't lose 21 games in a row. And the other thing that I would say to you is that when you look at a team that's this awful, this pathetic, somebody has to come out and address it. Nobody does. No, I'm talking about top of the food chain. Well, again, when you're hiding at 35th and VEC, you're not gonna say anything because you don't care, Cap. They don't eat, they don't care. Because you've just like the ball club that's quit on themselves, the organizations quit on themselves for the time being. This is why when I told you that it's gonna be a seven year rebuild, you laughed. But then again, look at the organization. It's dilapidated. It's lousy. They're gonna, they're shutting it down for a while here. Minor league system needs to be built up. Major league system needs to be built up. You need a manager. You need to have a general manager with some chops, by the way. You need new ownership. You need a way of playing. That's a lot on the table. This is not like the NBA cap where you can get this turned in two years through the draft and a few free agents sprinkle in there. Oh, we're in the play-in. I mean, that's how that works. It's not the NFL where you get lucky in the draft and spend a little money. Oh, look at that, we're a wild card team. This is going to take a long time. It's gonna be painful for a long time. The Sox fan feels like they get the short trip in this town for years and years and years. How do you think they feel now? How about right now? That you perfect segue. Thank you. You didn't know where I was going. Well done. Do you remember when the Cubs won an ESPN? It was everywhere. The Cubs win finally 108 years and they listed all the championships in Chicago sports and they forgot '05 White Sox. Remember that? And the Sox fans rightly so were furious with ESPN. Furious. What about us? What about us? We won an '05. How can you list all the bulls and the Blackhawks and they're staying in 1981 and the Cubs and the Bears? What about us? Well, you're all over ESPN.com now and they're not missing you on sports center now. How does it taste? And that's not for the fans. That's for the freaking guy that owns the team. Again, he's a good person. This is not personal. This is freaking business. And what you're doing in this city, to this team, that's a mark that will last. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's embarrassing. He wears it better than that. Jerry Reiser, where's it just like the players have to wear? Just like Pedro Grafalle has to wear it. But this is where they are right now. No question about it. All right, coming up. We've got someone from un-sportsman like taking a shot at our guy, Shay Norley. I don't understand where this comes from and still to come. There might be a rookie that makes the difference between the bears signing a veteran and not. We'll get to all that this hour as we broadcast live from House Hall and Lake Forest, Cap and J-hood, week day warning 7 to 10. Cap and J-hood, live from Training Camp, fun ESPN Chicago. Live coverage of Training Camp is presented by Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana and is brought to you in part by the Chicago land and Northwest Indiana Chevy dealers. Cap and J-hood on ESPN 1000 and also on our YouTube channel, YouTube.com. Make sure that you subscribe to ESPN Chicago's YouTube channel. That way you missed nothing from ESPN 1000. Glad to have you in. Hope that you're going to have a great Tuesday. We're going to have a special guest coming here at the House Hall at the 930. Yeah, 930, our guy, Ryan Polls, who's a great friend of our show. Super dude, he will be with us at 930. We'll find out. Offensive lines banged up, man. How does that affect Caleb playing this week? And do you go out and get an upgrade? I saw yesterday the Connor Williams, who's coming off ACL surgery, the former Dolphin, visited the Ravens, and there's a second team that he's going to meet with as well. Is he in play to come here? Is there anybody else out there? We'll find out. We have an issue here with Unsportsman-like, the show that comes on before us between 5 and 7. Here on ESPN was Naswood, Evan Cohen, Michelle Smallman and Chris Canty. And I don't know where this stems from. I just know that there was a banning, a playful banning of Michelle Smallman because of her take on the Chicago Bears and Evan Cohen stuck his big beak in there as well, also banned from the show. And so Michelle Smallman now taking a shot at our guy, Shay Norling, which I don't understand. Shay, you heard this this morning. Give us your overall thoughts before we hear from Smallman. I'll say I fired the first shot. Because off the top of their show, they're talking White Sox the losing streak, how incredible it is, the ineptitude. We've never seen this before. And Evan Cohen was making the point, if you're a White Sox fan, you should just be rooting for the losses. You should be rooting for the record, make it as bad as possible. And I heard Smallman go the other way and say if you're a White Sox fan, you want this to end immediately. You want to win every game, end the losing streak and have this weight lifted off of your shoulder. And I immediately sent Evan an email. I said she could not be more wrong. The White Sox fans we talked to want this to go on. I started the road to 24 when the losing streak was at nine. The reason I did it is not because I hate them and want them to lose a bunch of games. It's because I want them to be good. And I think wearing this embarrassment nationally maybe forces somebody to take a look in the mirror. Now Jerry still isn't spoken to anyone. So who knows if that's true. But this has more ability to do that than if they were just regular bad. I think embarrassingly awful forces an organization to look at themselves. So I fired Evan an email. Said Smallman could not be more wrong. And apparently she responded to me. All right, let's go back in here from earlier today. Michelle Smallman with a response to the email that was sent by Shane Orley. So there is a show in Chicago, Captain J. Hood, that we are banned from. We have a beef with them. Y'all are banned from it. I was going to say two. Y'all are banned. I'm not going to put CC in there. All right, I got a note from the producer of that show, Shane Orley with the interesting information here. Do we want this or do we want to ban them from our show? No, no, I want the info. OK, I want the info. Are you sure about this? Yes, OK. You know what, just because they banned us doesn't mean we have to ban them. The note starts, Smallman could not be more wrong. Feels like everyone in town is rooting for them to lose. I've been doing the road to 24 on our show since losing streak was at nine. I've openly wanted this all year, not because I hate them, because I want them to be good. And I want national heat on this team for how pathetically they are run. Fans want the same. OK, well, if they-- but they only want the streak to continue because they want the heat, because they want someone to be held accountable. And they feel like the only way for that to happen is if the streak continues to such a degree that nationally, we're all talking about how inept the Chicago White Sox are. Not because they want their name and their team's name attached to that record in the history books. Damn. OK. How else are you going to get the attention? Well, just being a just a lowly average ball club, you're not going to get attention that way. They can't get attention when they're a good team. Yeah, so it doesn't really matter. So here's the thing. Again, you have to be here, especially as a White Sox fan, to know that this is-- it's bad. Obviously, it's a bad look for the organization, but you want it to hurt, Cap. You want Jerry to be able to hurt, because this is devised by him. It is. And the way the organization runs. So that's why I'm good with the 24 and more losses than that, because I want the White Sox to make history, because I want Jerry Reisort to understand that you just can't piecemeal and just go on the cheap or just not care about the organization and think you're going to make your way to a championship. It's just you can't do that. There has to be effort. Yes! History. Yeah. They're on their way off to history. There it is. History! History! Yeah. It's going to hurt. It has to hurt, but I think we're already at that level, like getting the 24 and having the all-time record, I don't think going from 21 to 24 hurts Jerry any more than what we're already at, I think it hurts the fan, the you, my brother, my friends, my friend Joe who's a die-hard, die-hard Sox fan. He lives right by the ballpark. Yes. I've told you about my friend, Joe LaBerti, lives right by the park, loves the White Sox. That's his team. He's got to wear that. Eric's got to wear it. Right, Eric's right here is a Sox fan. He's got to wear it. Like for the rest of his fandom, he's a young guy. The Good Lord blesses him with good health. He's got, what, 60-some years left? He's got to wear that my favorite team is the worst in the history of the sport. And that is freaking offensive. That no one comes out and apologizes for that. Oh well. Hey, well, owners don't apologize. They just make it right. That's the way that they apologize. Bingo. The way they apologize is they make it right. And they say, hey, you know, they'll have their press conference, maybe in the winter meeting, something like that. It's like, yeah, we're going to turn this around, right? We don't even say that. It just happens. And because here's the thing that we know, owners and people in the front office don't want to make promises they can't keep. That's the thing. Like even the Rangers, right? The Rangers were pissed. It was like, you know what? We're going to be better. We're going to be a better organization. This happened this season. After we're like, yeah, we're going to be better. But the one thing that will set right with a fan is action. That words, but action. But I think you need both. When it's this epically bad. If they finished 25 games under whatever, there's 61 under. We're talking about historic stuff here. Yeah. I believe if I was, I would never allow my team to get to this level. I'm too competitive. But if I took over that for it, let's assume I bought the team today. A buddy of mine bought it and said, I want you to be the guy. You're running it. Not the baseball side. You're running everything. Press conference tomorrow. Get as much media there. I want TV stations going live. And I'm going to walk out and go, what you have watched is unacceptable. And I want to apologize to everyone that has supported us, that has White Sox gear, that they're embarrassed to wear. Guess what? I will not sleep till I get this fixed. We are going to go to work immediately. And we are going to figure out how we get this thing stabilized and build it from there. I can't tell you we're going to spend $400 million because we don't have it. But guess what? We have more than we've been spending and we're going to get this thing stabilized and we're going to try and build you something you can be proud of. But from me, the new face of this team, I apologize to you and I'm begging you give us a second chance. I think people would buy in. I really do. And you'd be the first one to do it and say it that way. Just so you know, you'd be the first one to use that term apology. Even though it's deserved for the fans, but you'd be the first one to be able to say, you know what? That's my bad or I'm sorry for the previous regime. That kind of thing. You know, when you hear that, usually you hear that from some coaches because they'll say I apologize because it puts a bad light on the players. That's usually what I get that in college football every now and then we get an apology from, you know what? We play poorly. I apologize to our fan base and to our blah, blah, blah, I see I've seen that. But it would be nice for the owner to be able to have a pulse and he does not cap. That's the problem. You'll never get that from him because he's a stone cold killer. Ryan's door has been around for a long time. One of the old baseball faces of that whole conglomerate, all those owners. He's the guy. He's the guy. You got a lot of young hot shot owners in Major League Baseball now, but for Jerry Ryan's door, it's almost indifferent and indifference is worse. Indifference is worse than what we see here on a daily basis, a nightly basis with the White Sox because with him saying nothing, that means that he doesn't care. And by the way, the White Sox fan as a whole is pissed off, but also they don't care. Check the turnstiles and see if I'm wrong. Well, that's what's so stupid about it is like if you do go out and spend the money, don't tell me you can't get three million fans in that ballpark in a season. If you put a product in front of them that they want to go see, you could sell that place out every night. It's only happened three times in team history. Right. The three times they were good. So it tells me if you spend the money and make them good, you can get three million fans through the door. It's like when I was growing up, the first baseball season I can remember growing up in Detroit was 2003 and the team of 43 and 119. And they wore that embarrassment, went out and signed Pudge Rodriguez, went out and signed Magli Ordone, yes, and two seasons later they're in the World Series. So wear this embarrassment and then apologize to us with action. Go get some players, build up a team. You can get three million fans through the door. You can contend for a World Series and don't tell me it's going to take seven years because if you're willing to run this right, it won't. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, all I can tell you is what I see today, Jay, and that is an organization from a minor league system and a major league system standpoint where you don't see talent. It's about difference makers, cornerstones. You don't have it. You don't have any of the organization. Totally agree. Listen, you and I have been around for a long time. We've seen a lot of bad teams cap. I'm talking about across the Chicago sports landscape, but at least you and I could be able to say, well, that's a guy, that's a guy, that's a guy, but they need to build around those guys. You don't even have that with the White Sox. Who is it? Jokes. Is that who they're going to build around? Yeah. The outfielder, a build around Vargas, little around La Niene Sosa. The worst we've ever seen. The worst. The 88 Baltimore Orioles would beat their ass. You know why? Because they had Fred, had Rice and they had, uh, no, they had Freddie Lynn and they had Eddie Murray and they had Cal Ripken Jr. Had beat this White Sox team's ass. They would? Come on, man. Okay. There's questions again about the defensive line for the Chicago Bears. Is, uh, is there a rookie that will be able to step up in which maybe Ryan Pulse says, we don't need a veteran on the defensive line? We'll address that coming up next, Captain Jhood broadcasting live from House Hall on Chicago's home for sports. Checkmate 1-6. Let me have some pressure on target. That's why I see him in my shirt. Shot. Or no shot with Captain Jhood on ESPN 1000 and ESPN. ESPN, Chicago app. That's why I see him in my shirt. Good morning and welcome in to the Captain Jhood morning show on ESPN 1000 and we're streaming on the ESPN, Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood, broadcasting live from House Hall on the lake. Boris, now time for shot and no shot. Here's Shane Orland. Shane. Good morning, boys. From beautiful. How was Hall? This is Rice. This mic's all over the place. My God. Bellowing into the mic. How are we feeling, boys? We're good, man. Good to be out here. Smells like a winner here. The building smells like a winner. Like they've turned the corner. Well, that's because of the morning shower I had. A little Tom Ford I put on. That's the reason why it smells that good in here. Wow. I thought it was my old Spice deodorant. His old Spice is still in business? What are you talking? Where have you been? I didn't even know old Spice was the thing anymore. Damn. Every other commercial. Great grandfather. Great grandfather. Wow. Coming into Chicago. Coming into the young coal. Doing the old Spice commercials all the time. All right. I will ask you this. Is this or is this not a punishment? Shane Orland. Well, Luke Combs sends fans wild with savage fantasy football punishment of his rivals at his latest concert. So Luke Combs sent his fans into delirium with a savage fantasy football punishment. He had two of his best friends on stage to sing with him in front of the crowd in Cincinnati and a pay course stadium. That was the punishment. They lost it in fantasy, but they were last in fantasy football. So the punishment is you have to come on stage and sing with me. Luke Combs. Hang on a second. That's a punishment. Yeah. That sounds great. That's a punishment. So when panties are thrown at you at the stage, that's a punishment. I mean, here's the punishment. The punishment is if you're last in fantasy football and I'm your friend, Luke Combs, you have to be able to score about all of the porta potties. Oh, god. That's the punishment. The idea that you're going to sing a song on stage in front of a sold out house at pay course stadium, that's the punishment. The punishment is you have sing with me. It doesn't matter if you can't carry a tune in a bucket, you're out there on stage. You're getting phone numbers just because you get the rub from Luke Combs. Seriously, that's the punishment. The punishment is that you got to work the parking lot or something else like that. That would be a punishment to me. First of all, I don't listen to Luke Combs. I'm sure he's a great guy, not my cup of tea, but I'd be terrified, terrified. To do what sing? Yes. I think it'd be fine. You're standing next to a superstar. You're out there. The audience knows what it is. He's going to hand you the mic and he's not going to say a word. That's fine. I'm out there having a good time. Yeah. You're going to sound like an idiot. I don't care. The audience knows what it is. Who cares? I would. Personal bartender backstage. That's a punishment. The cap also, the singer recently of the seventh inning stretch at the Boomers game. Here's Shay Norley. That's true. Actually, there was a day a while ago, hoodie. We almost brought this up on the show. I think Abdullah was in for you with cap. And there was a fantasy football punishment. I'm going to ask you a shot or no shot if this is a punishment. This guy had to enter, pay his own way, enter a US Open qualifier, and play all 18 holes in the qualifier. He ended up shooting like a 30 over, something ridiculous. This incredibly difficult course, he wasn't a golfer. But that was his punishment last place, fantasy football. Play in a US Open qualifier. Shot or no shot. That's a punishment. That's a no shot. That is not a punishment. It's a day on the golf course. I'm actually going to play at a buddy's club tomorrow after we get off the air here. And the club is way, way too difficult for me. And I'm a decent player. I'm not Tom Wattle. Wattle's really good. Really good. Well, you know, when you're Tom Wattle, you have a chance to work on your game. And I'm not a Tommy's level. I mean, just tell you something. That is not a punishment. It's a dream. To go to play where I'm going tomorrow and go, I shot 100. I don't care. I'm out on a golf course. Not just putties. Not just a golf course. Just a pristine, like a historic golf course. Right. Not the one you designed the, what did you call it? The ghetto dilapidated. The dilapidated one that looks like Scotland and the south side. South side wouldn't look like that. That's a difference. I'm talking about, if I was to build, if Jay Moore and I got into the business of building a golf course on the west side, someplace or someplace in the city, I don't have to do much work. Right. Look how beautiful these greens are. The weeds coming up. Look at that. You just got water everywhere. Water has us everywhere. But it's beautiful. Oh, the great course. It's BS. He's telling that in Scotland. It's BS. Yeah. Not a length course guy. No, no, no, just the idea. Like, it's so beautiful. Let's build that. You'd look, you'd, you'd, you'd dumb your nose at it like, oh, look how terrible this course is. Wait a minute. It's length style. Correct. It's wonderful. It's what we, the people want nonsense. So, so to put a bow on this, Shea Norley, it is, would not be a punishment to be side by side with Luke Holmes, because the rub you get from Luke Holmes, you get the phone numbers he can't get to. Yep. I'd enjoy the moment. Right. All right. Some reports yesterday surfaced on social media. Caleb Williams is expected to play in the Bears preseason game this weekend against Buffalo. Playtime expected to be around the entire first quarter shot or no shot. It is the right call to play Caleb for the first quarter, regardless of offensive line health. I think I was just texting with Waddle to shoot, who weighed in. He loves our show. Waddle's a great fan of ours. We have them on every Wednesday and he said capital letters. Yes. He plays. He may be playing behind them in week one also. You've gotten soft and I said, I want him to play. I just have to know, look, any play can happen. A guy can come off the edge against the greatest left tackle in the history of the sport. He gets beat and he crushes the quarterback. That's part of the deal. Just tell me that we have five guys that we feel like we can run our offense and he can get something out of it. Like if it's Cleveland, Justin's rookie year, when Negi put in, yeah, our five will block their five. Yeah. Okay. He got sacked nine times. Yes. I don't need that in my life. I'm going to stand by what I said yesterday to you, where I said on the show yesterday, he's going to have to, he's going to have to deal with some adversity at some point. It's just how the NFL works. It's never going to be perfect. It's going to be a wide receiver. That's down. There's going to be a running back that's going to be down. There's going to be offensive lineman. It's going to be shuttle in and out. So even in his rookie year, I'm not looking for, you know, drama. What I'm saying is, is that he's got to get used to it. Doesn't matter who's practicing with, sometimes it's going to be an injury. He should play. He's got to get out there, Cap. Sorry. It's a series, a couple of series. He needs to get the feel of the game. Remember, I don't disagree with that. He's never called the game before. I get an NFL environment, right? So he's got to get out there and get used to even if it's six to eight plays, he's got to get out there. Yeah. And I think he'll be out there for more than that. Again, let me be clear. I would like him to be out there to play against real live competition. But if you tell me that three or four of my five starters aren't in there and I'm putting guys out there who I don't think are going to even make my football team. I need my old line coach, Simo, Chris Morgan, Ryan, relax, we'll protect them. We'll be okay. I'm not afraid. I'm afraid. Go buy a duck. Yeah. I'm not afraid. Stacey. Because we know how the NFL works. It just works that way. Is this the way it is? Yeah. Just ask Drew blood cell. It just, and things happen. This whole thing where this all started with Tony Dungey being afraid and can, it could be injury. It could be injury at any time, any time, whether they do fully intact or not. Shane Orley. Dan Graziano reported for ESPN that Keenan Allen, who recently changed agents, has approached the Bears about an extension. There has been no progress, says the Bears are taking a wait and see approach with the 32 year old receiver. So shot or no shot, Keenan Allen needs to play a minimum of 14 games if he's going to be a long term option for the Bears. I don't think there's a number that you put on it. What was the number that Tommy gave us? He thought he'd play 13, I think he said. Didn't he? Yes. And I think Olin feels the same way. I don't put a number on it. Now I need to see him perform. I need to see him be able to be out there consistently. But is there a set number? I don't go. I don't know. You only played 13. I can't extend. I got to see how it plays out. How about nine? How about that for a number? No, nine. Think about it at nine. Would you like nine? 13, I think there's a new one. Place 13 gets 1,000 yards. We can have a conversation. He said he didn't put a number on it. So I just put a number out there for him. Like nine. Nine. Yeah, no. Nine's a little. No? Okay. That's a little. How about 11? What about 11 again? I got to see how it plays out. Okay. No. It does matter. That is a shot. It does matter. Coming into the door here at House Hall, we said, well, Kean Allen's here, but you know he's not going to play the full comment of games because of injuries or whatever the issue. So I think that if you're the Bears, you'd like to know that this veteran can be able to be there in key moments and healthy enough. That matters. It does matter. Captain Jay Hood live from Training Camp on ESPN Chicago. The coverage of Training Camp is presented by Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana and is brought to you in part by the Chicagoland and Northwest Indiana Chevy dealers. In the middle of the shot of no shot right here on the Captain Jay Hood Morning Show, Albert Breyer joins us coming up at 8.30. Let's go back to shot of no shot. You're asking us a White Sox question, Shay? Yeah, I'd reset it. There have been a lot of questions about just what the White Sox are waiting for in regards to firing Pedro Graffle, the losing streak, now historic tying the AL record, the 21 consecutive losses. John Greenberg over the weekend was wondering why Chris Goetz hasn't made a public declaration about the intention with Pedro Graffle and speculated that they might be willing to let him go out with a win. So shot or no shot, the White Sox should let Pedro Graffle go out with a win. Yeah, it's a no shot. This is silly. What is this? A youth league? Hey, man, we pay you a million dollars a year. It didn't work out. Best of luck. Here's what we owe you. There's your check and go get a coaching job. Good luck. And whoever the interim manager is, it's not on him if they don't win. He's just filling the time until the season ends and they could try and fix this horrible team. You know, oh, Pedro Graffle, anything at this point in time, they owe the fans and the old organization a better shot of being able to be a winner, but because they've chosen this route to be able to go down this path, Shay, as losers, 21 straight, Pedro Graffle doesn't need to be able to have a power in the back, a victory and let him go out as a victor. Because here's the thing, Pedro Graffle will never manage in the big leagues again because of this. He'll never manage in the big leagues again because whatever the perception is behind closed doors at 35th and VEC, the bottom line is your one loss record is what it is, your resume is what it is. He was over his head as a manager just to start with only because the organization was not equipped to be able to win. You want to get rid of Tony LaRoucet now? People thought that that was a bad idea. That guy had that team winning before he got sick. And now look at the team. The core is just not good enough. It was never healthy enough to start with. Let's start there. Never healthy enough. It was never consistent enough to be able to help the Sox win. But the bottom line is that Graffle doesn't need a pound of back with all those L's. He should go out when they're ready to fire him. And by the way, I don't want him to be fired. I want him to stay here as Sox manager for the rest of the year. He needs to wear it like everybody else. What's the point? There's no way he finishes this season. No way. I get your point. What I'm saying? What's the point? Because at some point, you just have to make a change. You have to. He's not very good at the job. The team is pathetic. It's designed that way. Do the parallel of the bears and the White Sox. I'm talking about one pollster that's got here. It was designed to fail. Like, OK, we've got all these guys that are supposed to be good, they're not helping you win anyway. They're going to reset this thing. That had to be a hard sell for poll to tell the owner, George McCasky. Yeah, your team's nice, but it's not good enough. We're going to rebuild this thing. No GM or no front office person ever told that to a McCasky. Right. You think Ted? Ted's ever done that. I know it was. Ted would never do that. When they came in here and interviewed Chris Ballard before Pace got the job. Chris Ballard, who's now the GM and Indy, he told him in his interview, first thing I'm doing, I'm letting you know, I'm releasing Jay Cutler tomorrow. He's a black cloud on the organization or whatever it was, the line he used out and George went, OK, you can leave. They weren't letting him buy that contract. No chance. Right. Well, polls came in, enough's enough. Let's fix it, but I don't think the White Sox entered this season trying to take it down to the studs. They did not. Chris, he's a smart guy. He doesn't have any experience in this job, but I think Chris went, OK, we're going to be horrible, but we got the audio there from Jerry. We're going to play it. Jerry, so we got a good core. We're going to be better. Really? And just remember, there was a disconnect from the beginning. What did Chris get said in spring training? I don't like our team. Right. But Jerry said it was fine. We had a nice core here. Chris openly said, I don't like our team because he knew that this would be awful. I guarantee you, he said to Jerry, Jerry, you may think we got a good core. No. We don't. Pat. What it is. What it is. The reports that he wanted to trade. Crochet and Robert tell you everything you need to know about what he thought of the core. I want closure on a debate that we have had on this show all baseball season regarding the Chicago Cubs. We've fought a lot about whether the Cubs bullpen or offense was the bigger problem this season. A lot of other debate is, should we stop talking baseball on the show? We're getting there. Once this losing streak ends, yeah, that'll be all, but since June 1st, I just want to bring this up. I saw this stat since June 1st, Cubs bullpen ranked second baseball in ERA, second home runs per nine, second batting average against third and fifth, first in soft contact rate, second and average exit velocity and first in barrel rate. Shot or no shot? The offense was always the problem for the Cubs. No shot. Well, you'd be wrong because I've been saying that since June, that the team needed offense and look how the pitchings turned it around. This starting pitching staff that you got cap is playoff worthy. You know that, right? And your bullpen has turned it around. You've always needed offense. That's the problem with this team, but you won't listen to good reason. They've blown 21 saves, 21. They're on pace to blow more than 30 saves. You're like our political discourse. You won't listen to the actual facts. I'm the one that retweeted it. I said that to you guys. You're showing me something. I said to you guys, yes, their offense is not good. You blew 21 saves. You entered the season without a legitimate closer. Al Zalai was never good enough. He was never tough enough to be a closer. You blew 21 saves, unconscionable. But nothing on the offense. We didn't say that. Well, I'm saying it. The offense was never good enough to compete because the front office didn't do enough to add to this offense. Hold on a second. The same exact offense a year ago was third in the National League and Run scored, sixth in all the baseball. And at the end of April was eight games over 500 tied for first, and that offense was playing fine. Yeah, and that will get you that in a dollar to 75 will get you on the L. That doesn't do anything. All I'm telling you is it was a non playoff team. If you sit, you picked him as a playoff team last year, so now we're talking about last year, right? They're not going to the playoffs because of their offense. Okay. They were third in National League. They didn't go last year because they got let down my management, not getting them bullpen help. That's the reason. And the Braves beat their ass at the end when you really needed to have wins. Because they blew saves. They scored. They didn't have a problem offensively last year. It was their bullpen. And you entered the season with a guy who's not good enough to be a closer. And now you've blown 21 say you save half of those. You're in the playoffs. Yeah, I can't. I can't guarantee that when you've got average offense. We also need this. Is that not fair? No, it's fair enough offense. We need the how many of the blown saves were actually losses because blown saves don't equal losses. But I have to do some research and figure that out. That's where I've always had a problem with the first 20 or 21. Oh, if you win the 21 bone save, so he probably won three or four of them anyway. So you can't just convert them all this to wins. Here's here's my research. The offense is always just average and bland. You didn't. And that's what happens. We don't have a star cap. That's the reason why that's one of the reasons why the Cubs are in this position right now. Last year, you held you relied so heavily on Bellinger's bat and Suzuki's bat and it just wasn't enough. This year, the same thing. The arrogance of the Cubs of just hanging in there like, oh, just run it back. Oh, you need it more than that. As much as I love Chris Morell, I'm like going the last ones that still think that he's got a bright future. Even he couldn't help the cause. Offensively, they were inept. You would call them in your recaps like they were, or you would just say about the how soft they were. Impedant. They were. Right. Not to spewing the fact that their offense needs an upgrade. But they've added in the off season, a first baseman who's top three OPS among his position, Michael Bush. Had a really good year, really good. Over the last just over 12 months, saying Suzuki's top 10 in OPS, top 10. Now, Dansby Swanson has been terrible, terrible. No doubt about it. He craw Armstrong. Love him how he's fast. He's a good defender. His offense still has to get to league average. It's not even at league average. And their catcher's have been terrible till Amaya had been hot the last two, three weeks. Yes. Yes. They need more offense. No doubt about it. Typical Cubs coming at the end trying to be able to salvage this thing. Just like last year, at the end, you needed it in July. Where was it in July? The clutch hitting. He didn't have it. That's why the hitting has always been an issue for me. Now, let's go around the NFL. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's an so you're looking for all these things here? Yeah, big news yesterday, Brandon Ayuk. The resolution seems close based on all the reporting, and the reporting was it's more likely that he's traded than that he reaches a long-term agreement with the San Francisco 49ers. The three teams that were rumored to be the most in on a trade, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Cleveland Browns, and the New England Patriots. Which of those three teams makes the most sense for Brandon Ayuk? The Cleveland Browns, because they're all in to try and win. Yes. Why he'd want to go play in New England, they're going to be the worst team in the league. Horrible. Yeah. Pittsburgh makes sense. It does. It sounds like they're out. As of this morning when I was listening to NFL Network coming over, it sounded like it was gleaming under New England. That's what it sounded like, but that could change. Sounds like Cleveland, Jack, would be the right spot for him. Now I'll ask you, Shay, if wins above replacement is a thing in the NFL, without Ayuk, how does San Francisco fare? They've got Shanahan. I think Greg Jennings, the wide receiver, is still on the team. It sounds like if it's Cleveland, Amari Cooper might be the piece that gets moved to get Brandon Ayuk there, and then San Francisco obviously would have Amari Cooper. I think they'll be fine relatively. The wide receivers don't do a ton for me in terms of a wins above replacement deal, but Brandon Ayuk is the best non-Christian McCaffrey weapon on their offense, so I don't think it would be a non-issue. Yeah. ESPN now says the New England Patriots and Browns both have been in contact and are interested training for you. Pittsburgh Steelers also were interested to do not appear to be a potential trade destination any longer according to sources to ESPN. Yeah. Justin could use another weapon. No doubt about it. Definitely. No doubt about it. George Pickens needs some help, man. He can't do it all. The only problem for Ayuk if he goes to Pittsburgh, who's going to get him the ball? How would he get it? FedEx. Carrier Pigeon. Yeah. He ain't going to be Justin. Chargers. Careful. There'll be a cult out here waiting for you. They know I'm kidding. The Chargers that keep hearing debate about nationally mean a kind set of take I really agreed with where look the Chargers aren't fixed just because they hired Jim Harbaugh. Now they've got to deal with Justin Herbert. Sounds like Planar Fasciitis is going to be a problem that can be kind of long term. Tough to get over. Might be a problem all year. I've said this team's going under their win total. It feels like they might get off to a slow start, too, even with Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. Look, Jim's a really good football coach. Really good. Lost Keenan Allen, lost Mike Williams, lost Austin Echler. They got a banged up quarterback. They drafted a tackle. Great. They got bookends and Slater and Joe Alt. That's a really good pairing of tackles. I'd love to have those tackles, but yeah, they are I would say. I think they're an under play and they're one of eight and a half. Yeah. Yeah. It's an under play. Whatever is the problem with Justin Herbert, he'll be fine. He won't utilize his arm that much. I hope he doesn't have like a thing in his contract. He's got over 4,000 yards because he won't reach it because they're going to run the hell out of the ball. Yeah. They probably will. So, but if he can't plant that foot if Planar Fasciitis is an issue, that's a problem. That's OK. He's running the Michigan offense. Here you go. Just run the football. Just keep hitting. That's what he's going to do. They got Craig Roman, his offensive coordinator. He built the San Francisco Kaepernick offense and he built the Lamar Baltimore offense. All they did was run the ball. Yep. So, the Michigan offense might go to LA. Yeah. Don't worry. I went with an RPL heavy on the R about the RPL. He's telling you man, you hear that Jim Harbaugh said he knew nothing about it. Yeah. If you ask me Jim Harbaugh's role in Chiron more right in front of the bus here, take the bullet for me, pal. There you go. Do me a favor. Take the bullet. I got to pay. Now you take that. Go ahead. Will he beat out Russell Wilson for the Steelers quarterback job? Russell Wilson missed some practice with a calf injury, came back with the reporting and some of the rumoring out of the clubhouse there. The locker room is off of Fields. He gained the trust of his teammates by playing well with Wilson's injury. They like him more. Nobody likes Russell Wilson. We can pretty much take that as a fact. It's feeling early like the Steelers want Fields. Good for us. Let's take the fourth round pick. No surprise here. I'm not surprised by that report. Absolutely not. Not even about a build. It's just about locker room demeanor, bedside manner. I told you all I had from the Denver source I had about the day to day of a Russell Wilson pain in the ass to deal with and thank God for Sean Payton. He turned it around like you're not going to be the guy you that you were before I got here. And I thought that Russell and Payton got along but they had a good relationship. It's just that it was oil and water. Just keep in mind what Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll let Russell Wilson do whatever he wanted to do and it led to a championship and success. He's just a different ball game man when you're with a different coach and Justin Fields from everything that we read is looking good. So as I mentioned, I'm rooting for him. I hope he has a really good run. I'm rooting for him. Absolutely. Like business is usual a little bit. Fields is having a really good camp. We know he's well liked in locker rooms. Everybody has good things to say about him and then you get on the field in the real games. And you see what you see. I'm just telling you that if Russell Wilson starts off as the backup, starts the season as the backup, there's going to be a problem. I don't think he'll last the season in Pittsburgh if he starts the season as the backup. He is going to be pissed off. This was why a week ago I asked you, can these two actually coexist in Pittsburgh? Because look, if Russell Wilson's the starter and Fields is the backup and that's known and that's just going to be the dichotomy, I think it's more likely that they can actually coexist. If Fields is the starter, you're going to have issues. It is going to be a problem. He was okay toward the back end of the season. It's like, all right Russ and Denver, we're going to pull you. We're putting instead of, we're going to, but to start the season that way, he wasn't even okay then. He wanted to sue the team. It was, it was not good that field. I'm just telling you. That's going to be a problem when the bell rings and Fields is the starter. That's bad. It's a big ego guy, Russell Wilson, big ego guy. Anything else? That's it for around the NFL. All right. Let's get to Albert Breer then. He'll be joining us coming up next on The Cap and Jay Good Morning Show.