Kap & J. Hood

8/6 7 AM: Twenty One!

Hour 1: The White Sox made history, ties an American League record losing 21 games in a row. Will the break the overall MLB record with 24 straight losses? Michelle Smallmon from ESPN's Unsportsman Like responds to Producer Shea Norling regarding the White Sox losing streak. The Bears could resign Yannick Ngakoue but at what cost, Kap & J. Hood broadcast live from Bears Training Camp.

Duration:: 45m
Broadcast on:: 06 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

(crunching) - Chicago. This is your morning routine. - Listen to respect my name. - Cap and G hood. - That's right, that's right, we're bad, huh? - Watch the show on Twitch. Follow ESPN 1,000 Chicago. - Swing the show on the ESPN Chicago app. And on in there. - 100.3 HD2. And on ESPN 1,000 Chicago. Now, no, no, no. David Kaplan and Jonathan Hood. - Good morning, everyone. - Bring 'em out, bring 'em out. - Whoo! ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Bring 'em out, bring 'em out ♪ ♪ Whoo! ♪ - Ooh! - Gah, welcome in to the Cap and G hood morning show. On ESPN 1,000, and we are streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. We're David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. We've got Chase. We've got Eric, we've got Jay Moore. We've got Sean, and we've got you for three hour ride as we broadcast live from Hal Tall here in Lake Forest. We'll open phone lines for you at 312-332-ESPN-3323776. Here's our telephone number and cap. Late into the night, we were able to see history. The Chicago White Sox, right here on the proud home of the Chicago White Sox, ESPN 1,000, was able to tie the all-time record 21 straight losses on their win at 24, as the Sox lose five to one to the A's. The ineptitude sees no end. It's unbelievable that the Sox continue to make history the wrong way. - I stayed up like many of you. I know you did. I thought, oh, hoodie's got the late night, West Coast baseball, and it's Sox. I have it when it's cubs. No, this is history. We need the drop. Jay Moore, the night or the day. Remember when Burley threw the perfect game? - Oh, yeah. - And on the final out, ground ball, and you heard, "Hawk, history, history!" We need that drop because it is history. They have tied the American League record with the Baltimore Orioles who, for them, did it the first 21 games of the season. - Yes. - And then they won. White Sox go for ultimate history tonight to have the A-L record. And then if they lose today and they lose tomorrow, they mercifully get a day off, fly home, and play Friday at home against the Cubs with Garrett Crochet getting a brief, no more than 75-pitch start. So we'll see where this whole thing goes, but it is literally embarrassing. And I told you before we started, my perspective is not just focused on the day to day. I think it's literally unconscionable that the owner has not come out and spoke. If I was the owner and that's what I put together, I would come out and say, "Look, folks, "this isn't Chris's fault. "This isn't Pedro's fault. "This is my fault. "And I need to talk to my fan base. "I will move heaven and earth, "do whatever I can within our power "to try and get this thing fixed. "I apologize to all of you who buy our gear, "where our hats, stay up late, watch our games, "your families are Sox fans, "and it's on me and nobody else." - Well, Cap, you'd have to care to do that. You'd have to care about the overall product to do that. You see, when you have the narrative for decades, that's about the bottom line, it's about the money, what you try to do is you try to get around that narrative by saying, "No, yes, it's about being able to make money, "but also I care about winning." And there's the difference right there. To the average Sox fan, ask anybody from the back of the yards to the western suburbs from around the country, there are White Sox fans, ask him about Jerry Rhines-Dorf. And even though we know the man as a good person on the surface, the business side of it is a problem for many White Sox fans. You must care, Cap. You must care to be able to step out and say, "Hey, you know what, we're going in the wrong direction, "but we're going to get this fixed." He's not going to do that. Too proud of a man to do that. Because he'll say, "Look at the resume. "Look at the championships I've brought here." It doesn't matter. What is going on today? The past is the past, but what's going on today? But see, he's too proud to do that, Cap. Hiding is the worst thing right now. It is hiding. Hiding to the point where you're the lead story on espn.com, it's truly embarrassing. And if I could say to him, "Jerry, "these are not personal attacks "that I'm launching or others. "There's some who do, that's fine." That's your thing. I'm talking to you, business man to businessman, competitor to competitor. Like, come out, have a press conference and say, "Okay, this is on me. "I grossly overestimated what we had "last year. "We'll play that cut later. "We have to. "Waddle it till we had it yesterday." Where Jerry, last year at the press conference literally said, "I like our core. "We're gonna be that much better." No, you don't have a core. You didn't have a core. No, no. You can't BS the fans of Chicago. You gotta understand that though. We've seen too much, Cap. We're not just, we're not kids. We're grown adults with a mortgage. And we all understand that we have to be able to look at this White Sox team coming into the season. I said, "Cap, this team isn't going anywhere. "They can lose in excess of 100 games "because of who they are. "You look at the roster. "You know a winning team when you see one. "And this was not a winning team. "Let's go back to last night, Jay Moore. "The sad call from a Len Casper and Darren Jackson "at the end of that one as the Sox lose the A's five to one. "Cenzel swings and misses, and the A's send the White Sox "to their 21st consecutive loss that ties the AL mark "set by the 88 Orioles. "It's so bad that the A's are playing celebration "just for because they've been bad too, "but they're playing celebration "because they helped the Sox to this mark right now. "As a White Sox fan, I could not be more disappointed. "That angry cap, disappointed. "You know a cap, there was a difference "when dad was angry versus being disappointed. "Correct." The disappointment lingered for a while. It hit your heart. Him being mad, that could just be mad for the moment and then he moves on. The disappointment lingers in the heart of a kid. That's how I feel as a White Sox fan. I'm more disappointed than anything else because Jerry Rhines-Dorf who loves baseball so much, right? We trade those Bulls Championships for more World Series Championships with the White Sox. He treats his organization like it's nothing. Yeah, it's truly embarrassing where it's at. Like when the Cubs went, like in, I'll give you O2, I think they went 67 and 95. They felt so awful. And that's my favorite team and God, 67 and 95. 67 and 95. This team isn't within miles of 67 and 95. We're talking about 61 games under 500 on the 6th of August. That's almost an impossibility. And the fact that you haven't spoken to your fan base, I find offensive. I really do. I find that offensive that you don't come out at some point and say, "Look, this is on no one else but me." I get it. And I'm giving Chris a mandate. We got to get this fixed. I can't tell you we're going to win the World Series next year. But what I can tell you is this will not happen again because we are going to go out and try and make moves to it, get this thing stabilized. And it's no one's fault but me. Don't put this on Chris. We didn't give him a lot of money to spend. Don't put this on Pedro. We gave him a bad roster. It's on one person, me. That's how I'd handle it. Yeah, it's on their way to 24 losses. This is the Shays Road of 24. And it's very likely to happen. Now, here's what's interesting for context cap. We also always have to give context from the past to move forward to the present, right? So I remember in high school watching this Orioles 88 team because it'd be in the newspaper. As a matter of fact, I believe in that losing streak they took on the White Sox. I believe they were at Kamiskey Park. And I just remember Frank Robinson's sad face from the dugout from the back of the Sun Times. Like, oh my God, this team's so bad. That season they fired Cal Ripken senior. He went on six and they fired him for Frank Robinson. Robinson went on to have a 54 and 101 record. It was 54 and 107 that year for the Orioles. Let me ask you a question. You think this team would be where the White Sox are? This 54 win ball club for the Orioles in 88 had. Mickey Tennleton, the former A, remember? Eddie Murray at first. Billy Ripken at second. Cal Ripken, Jr. at shortstop. This is on the bad team. The worst team we thought that's on with the Orioles. Rick Shoe, the old Philly at third, right? Pete Stanizek in left. Fred Lin, the center fielder. The old pirate Joe Orcelac played right. Larry Sheets was the DH. I mean, that ball club would be a contender today, right? Compared to this. Cal Ripken, Jr. is on that team. Eddie Murray is on that team. OK, a pitching staff of Jim Traeber. No, let me take a look at the pitching staff. Oh, Scott McGregor was on that team. Don Asse, two A's in Asse. Mike Morgan, Bob Malaki, Mike Morgan. Pete Harness was also on that team. And so was Dickey Knowles, the old club. They're like 3X cubs in there, right? But that lineup, by the way, would be a playoff team compared to what the White Sox brought up there every night. Right, and so that's why, if I could say anything to Jerry, he didn't want to talk to me, and that's fine. Jerry, call a press conference. Fall on your sword, apologize to your fan base, and then give Chris the checkbook to a degree. They're not going to spend with the Phillies or the Yankees or the Mets or the Rangers or even the Cubs. They're not going to spend that. OK, you could put a decent product on the field instead of asking your fan base to come out to this heritage night and come out to that hat night and bring your dog night, but we're going to put a double A club out there. Yeah. That is a joke. In Chicago. That's embarrassing, man. But that's where they are. And I know all of this falls at the feet of Pedro Grafalle. And if you've heard me talk about Pedro Grafalle, I said at the time, just another A to B hire, not a guy that's going to be able to move the meter at all in the city with Pedro Grafalle. Here's Pedro after the game as the Sox lose 5 to 1. Good job of base running. I thought he kept his feet moving over there at their base. He was kind of shuffling. You know, he shuffled back a little bit. It was just a really heads of play. I thought Corey looked him back, made a strong throw to first base, and it just laid up play. It's 21 in a row. That's the American League record. It ties the record. I know it's nothing you want to be associated with. We talk about it every day. Everybody knows what it is. It's 21 in a row. It sucks. It's not fun. It's paying for it hurts. I mean, you name it, whatever you want to describe it, right? Like I said, it's not for lack of effort. Nobody wants to come out here and lose. So we just got to put a good game together, put the spines. But good pace running though. I mean, we'll start with the positive first, because you've got to have the compliment sandwich. And that sandwich is a crap sandwich, by the way. And Kai Bush, the rookie who came up thrust into a really tough spot, he only gave up two hits and four innings, three runs. But he walked five. He had to be nervous. You're making your Major League debut. And hey kid, there you go. There's the ball we lose. We get to tie the Major League or the American League record. I thought he battled. He competed. He tried. I did. I'm just looking at that team. And it's just, I mean, it's truly sad for people, you, my dear brother Bruce, friends of mine who are die-hard Sox fans, die-hards. And what you're being put through, there's bad seasons, man. I'm disappointed that the Cubs are not going to go to the playoffs last night. Some guy, Festa. Festa? This guy shut us out? That's a joke. That said, they're at least competitive. They just took three or four for the Cardinals. They jammed the ballpark. People have a good time. My wife went to the game with her sister, I say. She said, I'll be honest. The offense was horrible. I had a good time. It was crowded, 30-something. This team, this team does not deserve to play a fill-in stadium on the north side, where Sylvia and I played in the Little League. They don't deserve to play in decent facilities. They're a joke. Well, because it's a joke, we just continue to watch the losses. It's a joke because you're a national embarrassment, not just local embarrassment, because maybe that doesn't affect Jerry as much. But again, when you're on ESPN, when everyone's talking about you and pointing and laughing at you, I guess that doesn't affect him either, because he hasn't said anything. It doesn't affect him, Cap. Your passion is not what Jerry Reinzdorf has. He does not. I've made the parallel to you. Made the example of just grandma or grandpa. You go into the home, and the ditches have been piled up because they don't care anymore. They're just living for another day. That's how Jerry looks at it, because if Jerry cared, there'd be a statement. If Jerry cared, he would treat this particular organization like a major market. You say that the Sox are not going to spend on the same level of the Cubs' other teams. That's an excuse, though. You should. You're in Chicago. You should be competitive. Well, I know that they don't have the revenue streams that the Cubs have. They don't draw. The Cubs have doubled the amount of season tickets. I understand there are financial limitations. Again, I'm not expecting Jerry to go. All right, we're going to go get Bryce Harper and Aaron Nola and Nick Castellanos and Kyle Schruer. OK, that's fine. Tampa doesn't spend at that level either. They don't lose 21 games in a row. And the other thing that I would say to you is that when you look at a team that's this awful, this pathetic, somebody has to come out and address it. Nobody does. No. I'm talking about top of the food chain. Again, when you're hiding at 35th and Vek, you're not going to say anything because you don't care, Cap. They don't care. Because just like the ball club has quit on themselves, the organizations quit on themselves for the time being. This is why when I told you there's going to be a seven-year rebuild, you laughed. But then, again, look at the organization. It's dilapidated. It's lousy. They're shutting it down for a while here. Minor league system needs to be built up. Major league system needs to be built up. You need a manager. You need to have a general manager with some chops, by the way. You need new ownership. You need a way of playing. That's a lot on the table. This is not like the NBA cap, where you can get this turned in two years through the draft and a few free agents sprinkled in there. Oh, we're in the play-in. I mean, that's how that works. It's not the NFL where you get lucky in the draft and spend a little money. Oh, look at that, we're a wildcard team. This is going to take a long time. It's going to be painful for a long time. The Sox fan feels like they get the short-trift in this town for years and years and years. How do you think they feel now? How about right now? That you perfect segue. Thank you. You didn't know where I was going. Well done. Do you remember when the Cubs won an ESPN? It was everywhere. The Cubs win, finally, 108 years. And they listed all the championships in Chicago sports, and they forgot, oh, five white sacks. Remember that? Yeah. And the Sox fans, rightly so, were furious with ESPN. Furious. What about us? What about us? We want to know five. How can you list all the bulls and the Blackhawks and their sting in 1981 and the Cubs and the pair? What about us? Well, you're all over ESPN.com now, and they're not missing you on sports that are now. How does it taste? And that's not for the fans. That's for the freaking guy that owns the team. Again, he's a good person. This is not personal. This is freaking business. And what you're doing to this city, to this team, that that's a mark that will last. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's embarrassing. He wears it. You're better than that. Jerry Reinserff, wears it just like the players have to wear, just like Pedro Grafalle has to wear it. But this is where they are right now. No question about it. All right, coming up, we've got someone from un-sportsman like taking a shot at our guy, Shay Norling. I understand where this comes from, and still to come, there might be a rookie that makes the difference between the bears signing a veteran and not. We'll get to all that this hour as we broadcast live from House Hall and Lake Forest, Cap and J-hood, weekday morning, 7 to 10. Cap and J-hood live from Training Camp, fun ESPN Chicago. Live coverage of Training Camp is presented by Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana and is brought to you in part by the Chicagoland and Northwest Indiana Chevy dealers. Cap and J-hood on ESPN 1000 and also on our YouTube channel, YouTube.com, make sure that you subscribe to ESPN Chicago's YouTube channel that way you missed nothing from ESPN 1000. Glad to have you in. Hope that you're going to have a great Tuesday. We're going to have a special guest coming here at the Hells Hall at the 930. Yeah, 930. Our guy. Ryan Polls, who's a great friend of our show, SuperDude. He will be with us at 930. We'll find out. Offensive lines banged up, man. How does that affect Caleb playing this week? And do you go out and get an upgrade? I saw yesterday the Connor Williams, who's coming off ACL surgery, the former dolphin, visited the Ravens, and there's a second team that he's going to meet with as well. Is he in play to come here? Is there anybody else out there? We'll find out. We have an issue here with Unsportsman like the show that comes on before us between five and seven. Here on ESPN was down with Evan Cohen, Michelle Smallman and Chris Canty. And I don't know where this stems from. I just know that there was a banning, a playful banning of Michelle Smallman because of her take on the Chicago Bears and Evan Cohen stuck his big beak in there as well. Also banned from the show. And so Michelle Smallman now taking a shot at our guy, Shay Norling, which I don't understand. Shay, you heard this this morning. Give us your overall thoughts before we hear from Smallman. I'll say I fired the first shot because off the top of their show, they're talking White Sox, the losing streak, how incredible it is, the ineptitude. We've never seen this before. And Evan Cohen was making the point, if you're a White Sox fan, you should just be rooting for the losses. You should be rooting for the record, make it as bad as possible. And I heard Smallman go the other way and say if you're a White Sox fan, you want this to end immediately. You want to win every game, end the losing streak, and have this weight lifted off of your shoulder. And I immediately sent Evan an email. I said she could not be more wrong. The White Sox fans we talked to want this to go on. I started the road to 24 when the losing streak was at 9. The reason I did it is not because I hate them and want them to lose a bunch of games. It's because I want them to be good. And I think wearing this embarrassment nationally may be forces somebody to take a look in the mirror. Now Jerry still hasn't spoken to anyone, so who knows if that's true. But this has more ability to do that than if they were just regular bad. I think embarrassingly awful forces an organization to look at themselves. So I fired Evan an email said smallman could not be more wrong and apparently she responded to me. All right. Let's go back in here from earlier today. Michelle Smallman with a response to the email that was sent by Shane Orley. So there is a show in Chicago, Captain Jay Hood, that we are banned from. We have a beef with them. Y'all are banned from it. I was going to say two. The three of us are banned. I'm going to put CC in there. All right. I got a note from the producer of that show, Shane Orley, with the interesting information here. Do we want this or do we want to ban them from our show? No, no, I want the info. Okay. I want the info. Yes. You know what? Just because they banned us doesn't mean we have to ban them. The note starts, smalls could not be more wrong. Feels like everyone in town is rooting for them to lose. I've been doing the road to 24 an hour show since losing streak was at nine. I've openly wanted this all year, not because I hate them because I want them to be good and I want national heat on this team for how pathetically they are run. Fans want the same. Okay. Well, if they, but they only want the streak to continue because they want the heat because they want someone to be held accountable and they feel like the only way for that to happen is if the street continues to such a degree that nationally we're all talking about how inept the Chicago White Sox are not because they want their name and their team's name attached to that record in the history books. Damn. Okay. How else are you going to get the attention? Well, just being a, just a lowly average ball club, you're not going to get attention that way. They can't get attention when they're a good team. Yeah. So it doesn't really matter. So here's the thing again, you have to be here as a, especially as a White Sox fan to know that this is, it's bad, obviously it's a bad look for the organization, but you want it to hurt cap. You want, you want Jerry to be able to hurt because this is devised by him. It is and the way the organization runs. So that's why I'm good with the 24 and more losses than that because I want the White Sox to make history because I want Jerry Reisort to understand that you just can't piecemeal and just go on the cheap or just not care about the organization and think you're going to make your way to a championship is just, you can't do that. There has to be effort. Yes. History. Yeah. They're on their way off to history. There it is. History. History. Yeah. It's got to hurt. It has to hurt. I think we're already at that level like getting the 24 and having the all time record. I don't think going from 21 to 24 hurts Jerry any more than what we're already at. I think it hurts the fan, the you, my brother, my friends, my friend Joe who's a die hard, die hard Sox fan. He lives right by the ballpark. Yes. I told you about my friend, Joe Liberty lives right by the park, loves the White Sox. That's his team. He's got to wear that. Eric's got to wear it. Right. Eric's right here. It's a science fan. He's got to wear it. Like for the rest of his fandom, yeah, he's a young guy. The good Lord blesses him with good health. He's got what 60 some years left. He's got to wear that my favorite team is the worst in the history of the sport. And that is freaking offensive that no one comes out and apologizes for that. Oh well. Hey, well owners don't apologize. They just make it right. That's the way that they apologize. Bingo. The way they apologize is they make it right and they say, hey, you know, they'll have their press conference maybe in the winter meeting, something like that like, yeah, we're going to turn this around, right? Some don't even say that. It just happens. And because here's the thing that we know owners and people in the front office don't want to make promises they can't keep. That's the thing. Like even the Rangers, right? The Rangers were pissed. It was like, you know what? We're going to be better. We're going to be a better organization. This happened this season after we're like, yeah, we're going to be better. But the one thing that will set right with a fan is action. That words, but action. But you know, I think you need both when it's this epically bad. If they finished 25 games under whatever, there's 61 under we're talking about historic stuff here. I believe if I was, I would never allow my team to get to this level, I'm too competitive. But if I took over that for, let's assume I bought the team today, buddy of mine bought it and said, I want you to be the guy. You're running it. Not the baseball side. You're running everything. Press conference tomorrow. Get as much media there. I want TV stations going live and I'm going to walk out and go, what you have watched is unacceptable. And I want to apologize to everyone that has supported us, that has White Sox gear that they're embarrassed to wear. Guess what? I will not sleep till I get this fixed. We are going to go to work immediately and we are going to figure out how we get this thing stabilized and build it from there. I can't tell you we're going to spend $400 million because we don't have it. But guess what? We have more than we've been spending and we're going to get this thing stabilized and we're going to try and build you something you can be proud of. But from me, the new face of this team, I apologize to you and I'm begging you give us a second chance. I think people would buy in. Yes. I really do. And you'd be the first one to do it and say it that way, just so you know, you'd be the first one to use that term apology, even though it's deserved for the fans, but you'd be the first one to be able to say, hey, you know what? That's my bad or I'm sorry for the previous regime, that kind of thing. You know, when you hear that, usually you hear that from some coaches because they'll say I apologize because it puts a bad light on the players. That's usually what I get that in college football every now and then we get an apology from, you know what? We play poorly. I apologize to our fan base and to our blah, blah, blah. I see I've seen that, but it would be nice for the owner to be able to have a pulse and he does not cap. That's the problem. You'll never get that from him because he's a stone cold killer. He's been around for a long time, one of the old baseball faces of that whole conglomerate. All those owners, he's the guy. He's the guy. You got a lot of young hotshot owners in Major League Baseball now, but for Jerry Reinsdorf, it's almost indifference and indifference is worse. Indifference is worse than what we see here on a daily basis, a nightly basis with the White Sox because with him saying nothing, that means that he doesn't care. And by the way, the White Sox fan as a whole is pissed off, but also they don't care. Check the turnstiles and see if I'm wrong. Well, that's what's so stupid about it is like if you do go out and spend the money, don't tell me you can't get three million fans in that ballpark in a season. If you put a product in front of them that they want to go see, you could sell that place out every night. It's only happened three times in team history. Right. The three times they were good, so it tells me if you spend the money and make them good, you can get three million fans through the door. Yeah. It's like when I was growing up, the first baseball season I can remember growing up in Detroit was 2003 and the team of 43 and 119, and they wore that embarrassment, went out and signed Pudge Rodriguez, went out and signed Magli Ordonias, and two seasons later they're in the World Series. So wear this embarrassment and then apologize to us with action. Go get some players, build up a team, you can get three million fans through the door, you can contend for a World Series, and don't tell me it's going to take seven years, because if you're willing to run this right, it won't. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, all I can tell you is what I see today, Jay, and that is an organization from a minor league system and a major league system standpoint, where you don't see talent. It's about difference makers, cornerstones. You don't have it. You don't have it in the organization. Totally agree. Listen, you and I have been around for a long time. We've seen a lot of bad teams cap. I'm talking about a cross the Chicago sports landscape, but at least you and I could be able to say, well, that's a guy. That's a guy. That's a guy. But they need to build around those guys. You don't even have that with the White Sox. Who is it? Jokes? Is that who they're going to build around? I get the outfielder, a build around Vargas, a little around Lamine Sosa? The worst we've ever seen. The worst. The 88 Baltimore Orioles would beat their ass. You know why? Because they had Fred, they had Rice and they had Freddie Lynn and they had Eddie Murray and they had Cal Ripken Jr. They'd beat this White Sox team's ass. They would? Come on, man. 100%. There's questions again about the defensive line for the Chicago Bears. Is there a rookie that will be able to step up in which maybe Ryan Paul says, we don't need a veteran on the defensive line. We'll address that coming up next. Captain Jay Hood broadcasting live from House Hall on Chicago's home for sports. Here's to Dave's headline headline with Captain Jay Hood. It's 21 consecutive losses for the White Sox tying the all-time American League record held by the 88 Baltimore Orioles. Sox lose 5-1 to the A's. They're back at it again tonight with Jonathan Cannon trying to stop the losing skid. The Sox could set a new all-time Major League record for modern day losses in a row. If they were to lose the three in Oakland, they get Thursday off and then a two-gamer with the Cubs starts Friday with Garrett Crochet on the hill at guaranteed rate. Cubs offense, impotent yet again. They get shut out 3-0 by the Minnesota Twins at Riggly 2 teams back at it again tonight at Riggly Field and the Bears back to work today. We're at Hallis. Hall, Ryan Polls will join us here in studio at Hallis at 9-30. Hard Knocks begins tonight. First episode of Bears Training Camp Hard Knocks. We will have a Hard Knocks post-game show available to you on our YouTube channel with a bunch of our staff all weighing in with their thoughts after it wraps. Jay Moore, Captain Jay Hood live from Training Camp on ESPN Chicago. Hard coverage of Training Camp is presented by Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana and is brought to you in part by the Chicagoland and Northwest Indiana Chevy dealers. We're broadcasting live from Hallis Hall Lake Forest, Captain Jay Hood right here on Chicago's home for sports, ESPN 1000. We got Shatter No Shot, can we wait 8 o'clock Albert Breer with the latest on the Bears and the NFL and 835 right here on the home of the Bears in White Sox, ESPN 1000. Speaking of Albert Breer who we hear from in an hour cap, Albert Breer says that the Bears have connected with Janik Ingaquay and I've discussed a contract similar to last year. But the Bears likely want to see where Austin Booker is and where he's at before handing out that type of cash. Now we've talked about Ingaquay, it seems like it was a year ago we were talking about the need for Ingaquay, got to have Ingaquay on the team. And so here we are again. This becomes Cody Bellinger all over again with this conversation. It's funny we talked about last couple of days about Austin Booker, what we saw in that first preseason game against Houston and then the young man out of Kansas has a lot to prove here in the preseason. Could Booker's play be the reason why the Bears don't connect with Ingaquay? To me more the merrier. Yes and no, I think that Booker has impressed, he has flashed again, he's a fifth round rookie going into a really tough position for rookies to flourish in. I think the reason they haven't gotten Ingaquay done yet, they're going to look at that offensive line. Their biggest investment, their biggest thing they have is Caleb Williams. They've got to be able to protect him. They have to. They're banged up. You counting on Nate Davis points 17 games? I'm not. You counting on Kevin Jenkins points 17 games? I'm not. I'll be surprised if they do, Braxton Jones, Darnell Wright, whatever you're going to do at center, you better have some cash available if you truly need to go out and make an addition. So what you're saying is that you'd rather have, maybe what's in camp right now is not good enough for the offensive line. Like we talked about the three or four offensive linemen that was brought in here in early in the camp, you think that there's going to be someone from the outside, won't be Bates who won't be Coleman Shelton, you think it's going to be someone else from the outside? I don't. Connor Williams is the guy that's out there. He visited the Ravens and a second team in the last couple of days and they've discussed contracts with him. He's got to pass the physical. He's coming off an ACL injury from early last December when he was with the Dolphins. Had he not got hurt, he was the number one guy at his position going into free agency. Unfortunately, he blew his ACL and that's why he's still sitting on the street. I think Ryan has to see this week, what do I have here? Oh, God, that guy's not going to get back. He's got to know all these guys. If they sign in Gotaway, it tells you he believes that offensive line's going to be fine. I always think about the guy that's crossed away from us, man, he refludes to the other building. I always think about his swing, his influence on the team. Again, defensive coordinator at his heart, that's number one. And I just wonder, does he talk to Ryan polls as someone who's truly a defensive coordinator and say, "I need more pass rush." Like, I think we like our offensive line, but I just need more besides Montez sweat and questionable, right? We talked yesterday about, according to Corona, about the defensive line. She believes that Gervon Dexter is locked in a defensive tackle. Okay, also that they believe in Andrew Billings. But then I just wonder, Cap, is it enough to get to the quarterback? That matters. I mean, to Ibrah Flus, I know it all matters, but remember who he is first. He wants a strong, aggressive defense to get after that quarterback. On the middle and to the back end, I think he's happy with the linebackers. It should be an airtight secondary. It should be for the Bears this season, blessed with good health. But I think he wants a pass rush, and it makes me wonder if Booker develops, it's only preseason. We don't know what he can do. I wonder, does he look at that and says, "Could just give me a gawk away? We can work with this offensive line." We're going to find out, when he comes in here, we're in a bill, look him in the eye and ask him about that offensive line, because that, for me, is the biggest concern with this team. And there are still people that believe much as they love Roma Dunezay, they should have taken a tackle there and had an elite top 10 draft pick at offensive line. I'm glad they took a Dunezay. I know Ryan is thrilled that they took a Dunezay, but that means you better figure out how you're going to fix this thing. You got three starters that were down. You put Caleb Williams out there against a Buffalo team with guys trying to make the roster. I certainly don't want to see my franchise rookie quarterback on his back five times in the first two drives and go, "Oh God, what are we doing here?" So we'll find out from Ryan, because he's got a plan, we'll figure out what he's going to do. I wrote the piece last week on SI.com Money Morning Quarterback about the Bears. He had five burning takes or five things that he learned about the Bears, and I look forward to talking to Albert about all this, too, because he knows how the free agency works and the guys that could be expendable coming to this Bears team. I just have, I am concerned, like you are, and probably a lot of Bears fans, in the protection of this young rookie quarterback, a veteran can get around some of this stuff, right? All right, I know this guy is not very good, so we're going to make sure that we get the ball out quickly. But for Caleb Williams, it's all new. And so he expects, by the way, the kind of offensive line that he had, probably in college at one point in time, "Oh, Ray, I got five seconds. You don't have that time. He's going to learn." But you want to make sure that you have the best foot forward, getting the best talent possible to make sure he's got enough protection. He's got great skill position players, he's got a running game, you've got to protect him. Yeah. That's enough on the defensive line. Do you think they have enough pass rush? Are you going back to last year, we saw the defense get better. We saw it. It's one of the reasons why the Bears are on the upswing is because they actually get to the quarterback and had a pass rush. If they broke camp with that, what they have now, that good enough? Maybe. If you told me I can only add one offensive line or defensive line, I've taken offensive line every single time. You know one of the issues with that losing streak that the Bears had is because they quarterback's uniform is always clean. Always. It was no pressure. I don't care if it was the middle of the road quarterback, if it was the top-notch quarterback, that guy had plenty of time to throw because there wasn't enough rush. Montez Sweatt was the beginning of the Bears getting to the quarterback a lot more often. That has to be a thing, Cap, put it this way. If you are confident in your secondary and you believe that your linebackers are solid, then just keep going. Make sure you got no stone unturned. You don't want to have question marks coming. You got enough question marks on your offense, by the way, with Caleb Williams. As much as we're chasing greatness with Caleb Williams, still a question mark. How does the Odyssey work? How does he work with Waldron? How does the offense work? How does Adunze work? Those are question marks. But if you can solidify that defensive line to make sure that you're getting three and outs along with Montez Sweatt, along with Demarcus Walker, that matters to me. It matters. And the coaches, the defensive coaches, I think he'd agree with me. I think he would, but I think he'd also tell you, we only have the money to upgrade one spot and there's an offensive lineman that's worth it. You've got to be able to protect the quarterback first and foremost. It's equally important to go get their quarterback. But if you can't protect Caleb, you can't run your offense. You can also tell me get lost, kid. Yeah. He probably would do that as well. I'm on the afternoon. Get out of here. You'd probably do that as well. All right. We'll get your thoughts in here. If you have not called the show, lightly jump in 3-1-2-3-3-2-E-S-P-N-3-3-2-3-7-7-6. Already, Cap and I've talked about the Chicago White Sox. My God, my God, we're talking about a team that has 21 straight losses. Whether it's under 80 degrees, whether it's over 90 degrees, day or night, they are 30th. Imagely baseball, every category, we've been talking about it. And my show researcher, I hired a show researcher. Yes. His name is G. Thomas Wattle, famous G. Thomas Wattle said the other team for Connor Williams right now, the Seahawks, Ravens Seahawks. Thank you, Tommy. Love you. Are you going to pay him for that researcher? Absolutely not. Okay. All right. We're broadcasting live from Hell's internship. Is it? Not a paid internship by you. Hell's on Lake Forest, Cap and J-hood on Chicago's Home for Sports. Cap and J-hood live from Training Camp, fun ESPN Chicago live coverage of Training Camp is presented by Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana and is brought to you in part by the Chicago Land and Northwest Indiana Chevy dealers. Cap and J-hood on ESPN 1000 and streaming of the ESPN Chicago app. Don't forget, we got Shadow No Shot coming up at 8 o'clock Albert Brere with the latest on the Bears in the NFL 835, 935 Ryan Polls, the general manager of the Chicago Bears will be with us here from Hell's Hall in Lake Forest, Illinois. As we go to the phone lines to talk to you, say hello to Morton Grove, here is Lewis with us here on Cap and J-hood. Lewis, good morning. Good morning, J-hood. What's up, Cap? What's up, brother? How are you? I am awesome, man, so I wanted to say, uh, wanted to touch on his livestock stuff, but real quick before I get him, uh, I want you to let Chicago appreciate what he's done and we, uh, we have faith that he's going to fix this, uh, offensive line, he knows that he's got to protect that quarterback that he likes so much, so I have no worries. Yeah, right now, these three stars are injured, but I have no worries. I believe that he's going to get done one way or another, but now to this livestock stuff. I don't expect any non-whysock fans to understand what we're going through. Shave my homies. Shave, by the way, I got your back, man, I agree with everything you say. Uh, also, I'm watching these livestock and heck, yeah, I'm while rooting for them to lose. I guess that I was watching yesterday's game and I was watching this young kid Bush and I was like, okay, I just want to see what he got. Like, I want to see what his potential. And then I was like, okay, enough, enough, like, take him out. Now let's lose this game. Like, I want to make sure that this is, that this is the most horrific historic season for the wife back so that something can shake up to wake up the ownership, the white, the office, like we need to be better, man. We need to be better. This is terrible. The worst thing of being a wife back man, because I wear a white sock at everywhere. I go, I go to work for the white socks at that. And everyone that knows baseball, they always coming up to me and talking to me about my team. And I'm like, yeah, it's true. I can't say nothing about it. We're terrible. But, um, you know, the road to 24 is cool for Carmen and Yerko got a bet going on amongst each other that like, so say, for example, if the socks lose a hundred wins before they get to 30 win, I guess, Carmen has to buy sandwiches for two days. And if they get to 30 win, Yerko has to buy sandwiches. Man, I'm over here rooting for a hundred wins like losses, losses, not wins, losses. Oh, yeah. No, but I've seen it. If the, if the, if the wife gets 30 wins before they get to 100 losses, then your car and wins. Right. Correct. Yeah. Lewis, we appreciate your telephone. Thanks, Lewis. Gito on the south side with us here on Captain J. Hood. Tito, good morning. Good morning, gentlemen. What's going on? What's up with you, brother? Nothing too much. Hey, so I was listening to you guys earlier talking about the Bears offensive line. And you know, I agree right now, they're a little banged up, but I mean, I can't help but think but, you know, last year, how many times in a game that we saw Justin Fields just kind of sit in the pocket and hold on to that ball. And I'm like, man, the offensive line is actually blocking for him. Don't get me wrong. There's some games where I'm just like Jesus, these guys need to get their stuff together. But there are also some games where Justin just never threw the ball. So I think that when the line gets healed back up, yeah, it's heaven to concern. Honestly, I'm saying, you know, don't get rid of Nate Davis now because that's going to cost us too much money. But you know, put them in the, put them as a backup, side over Bates and put in Shelton as a center. I mean, he was a top what 15 top 12 center last year and you're telling me that he's not. He's not going to be good enough. I know they're having problems right now in camp, but that's why you have camp to practice those things. And I think that as camp goes on more and more, they're going to get better and better. Again, yes, have needs to get better. I don't know what's done. I don't know what rights problem is. I think it's a shoulder again, but I mean, the guy's a savage man. He played several games last year with a busted shoulder shutting down top pass Russia. So I'm not really too concerned about him, but I don't know if the offensive line isn't healthy right now. I'm saying you don't put in Caleb. I'm saying you weighed because yes, he does need the reps, but I'm not trying to see him on his behind multiple times in that game because what the bear is it's possible to happen. But good talking to you guys. You have a good rest of your day. Do too, buddy. Look, he makes a valid point. And the question is if you have no darno right, I'm talking Saturday. No right. No Jenkins. No Davis. Do you put Caleb out there because he needs the work? You better believe in the guys you have back in them up then shot or no shots in two minutes from Lake Forest here with Hallis Hall. We got shot or no shot. Then we got Albert Breyer at 835 on cap and J hood.