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Rapid Fire: Jeremiyah Love Praise, Tyler Buchner, Deion Colzie, Michigan Sign Stealing Investigation

Today's Rapid Fire topics include: * Al Golden says Irish running back Jeremiyah Love reminds him of Notre Dame great Ricky Watters. We discuss the lofty comparison and the expectations on Love going into the season. * Buy or Sell a Tyler Buchner quarterback package this year, next year or any year he is at Notre Dame? * Based on what we’ve seen in the opening days of training camp, on a scale of 1 to 10...what chance do you give Deion Colzie to be a significant contributor this season?

  • We discuss the details of the Michigan sign-stealing scandal and investigation. * The Group of Five will get a team into the college football playoff regardless of ranking. It’s just the highest ranked group of five team gets an automatic bid. DK asks should there be a minimum ranking that the Group of Five should have in order to qualify for the playoffs? Thoughts on that.
  • We also discuss how NBC botched the call of the men's 100 meter Olympic finals, which was won by American Noah Lyles.  Shop for Irish Breakdown gear at our online store: https://ibstore.irishbreakdown.com/  Join the Irish Breakdown premium message board: https://boards.irishbreakdown.com  Stay locked into Irish Breakdown for all the latest news and analysis about Notre Dame: https://www.irishbreakdown.com​ Subscribe to the Irish Breakdown podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/irish-breakdown/id1485286986 Like and follow Irish Breakdown on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/irishbreakdown Sign up for the FREE Irish Breakdown daily newsletter: https://www.subscribepage.com/irish-breakdown-newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Duration:
42m
Broadcast on:
05 Aug 2024
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Today's Rapid Fire topics include:

Al Golden says Irish running back Jeremiyah Love reminds him of Notre Dame great Ricky Watters. We discuss the lofty comparison and the expectations on Love going into the season.

* Buy or Sell a Tyler Buchner quarterback package this year, next year or any year he is at Notre Dame?

* Based on what we’ve seen in the opening days of training camp, on a scale of 1 to 10...what chance do you give Deion Colzie to be a significant contributor this season?

* We discuss the details of the Michigan sign-stealing scandal and investigation.

* The Group of Five will get a team into the college football playoff regardless of ranking. It’s just the highest ranked group of five team gets an automatic bid. DK asks should there be a minimum ranking that the Group of Five should have in order to qualify for the playoffs? Thoughts on that.

* We also discuss how NBC botched the call of the men's 100 meter Olympic finals, which was won by American Noah Lyles

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He runs like Ricky waters, you know, just strong and run through, you know, high knee kick, you know, very hot, you know, good acceleration. To me, that's who it reminds me of. Maybe he's faster, but that's who it reminds me of, in terms of just a violent runner, you know, like a violent runner, and if you're out of place, he's going to get to the next level. Some pretty big praise there. Yeah. Jeremiah Love, Ricky waters, a guy who played for 10 years in the NFL, ran for over 10,000 yards, cut over 4,000 yards worth the fastest. Are you concerned at all that love is getting so much hype without really, you know, without doing anything yet, basically? I mean, I don't know that I'm concerned. It's nice that people are hyping a guy that's actually going to play and, you know, that kind of a deal because usually it's hyping up somebody's backup. But I can see the comparison. I mean, the skill set is similar, right? I mean, he was, he basically, he played running back on wide receiver at Notre Dame. And I'm trying to think of hit like the college version of Ricky waters, right? I mean, the NFL version and the college version, I think are two different animals to a degree. I mean, Reggie Bush, you know, Reggie obviously was a smaller frame, not nearly as physical as either probably what we're going to see. Like Jeremiah Love one has got to prove that he can be physical, but sure, not as, not as physically imposing as Ricky waters, but Reggie could obviously do a lot of everything. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like the one, like the modern guy that I've thought of is Alvin Kamara who was with the city played for Tennessee and he's played for the Saints for the last several years. He does a little bit of everything. He can run, you know, he catches passes. He can run between the tackles, do all those different kinds of things. I'm trying to, you know, like you, like other, other guys who kind of fit that bill, I kind of struggle, you know, with, with sort of figuring out exactly who that would be as well in terms of guys who have, you know, who've been call it, you know, bonafide college stars. Yeah, I get that. And I don't know that I would have pulled Ricky waters out of my hat when asked that question. But he probably also wasn't thinking I'm going to be asked for a comparison of an offensive guy either. So it's not like he could have kind of prepped for that and that's who came to mind. So I mean, I dig the fact that it came to mind. I think that's awesome, but he probably should have kept number 12 then, right? I know. Because they both were, you know, like Jeremiah love war 12 last year, like the waters were 12. Maybe that's maybe that's in the back of maybe, I don't know, but, you know, is he getting too much hype? I don't think he's getting too much. I mean, people aren't saying he's going to be a Heisman Trophy candidate, or at least I don't think they are. Maybe they are. I don't think they should, and the fact that the left tackle just went down probably my temper some people's expectations to a degree doesn't help it doesn't help in the situation any. I think he's going to be dynamic. I think he's going to be really good. Let's the jury is still out on how good I think all the tools are there. I'll say that. And I definitely think the extra weight that he's been able to add is going like when because when you look at, you know, again, like, like I was saying, you know, Reggie Bush maybe just in terms of the receiving skills and the ability to do those kind of things in the speed to go along with it, but Bush was not nearly as physical as a guy like Waters. And I think that where, like when I think of Ricky Waters and seeing him play, I just think about this sort of frenetic, you know, sort of, you know, like quick twitch all over the place, plus just the ability to lower his shoulder and plow right through you type of guy. Like the lower the shoulder and plow through you, I think needs to be proven at least to some extent by Jeremiah Love. We saw some flashes of that in the blue gold game and it looks like he's added a little bit more muscle since then. So, you know, I just, you know, again, he hasn't actually like, we know the kind of athlete that Jeremiah love his, but he hasn't shown that he can go out and do it at a game. So, it just feels like there's some really heavy comparisons being thrown around right now when he hasn't actually taken a snap, you know, as a starter with the exception of the sun. It's true. This is true, but people could be hopeful, I suppose. Yeah. Well, yeah. I think we've seen that. We've seen plenty of hopeful. Right? Yeah. Certainly have. Interesting. Matt Lee came in and chimed in and he says, so are Irish are going to stink this year according to so many on social media just because of a left tackle getting hurt. Don't forget the, it's something like 12% of anyone, of internet users worldwide, 12% are on Twitter. So like, think about that, 12% of the entire world. So how much stock you want to put on, you know, what's going out there on Twitter X or whatever you want to call it, this, you know, it's, let's tamp it a little bit. Like there's always going to be people who are going to, of course, and look, here's the other thing. Seasons not over. Notre Dame fans love to be miserable. Right. I'll just leave it at that. They love to be miserable. And this is a perfect opportunity to wallow in that misery. Joe said we need something after the news today. Well, I mean, that's, that's why we're here. Yeah. We're your therapy, right? Cheap therapy shows free. 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So what's the point? Right. I agree. And this is a walk-on wide receiver now. Right. But I think all that anyone, people can't get out of their mind that this was supposed to be Notre Dame's future a couple of years ago. But the reason he is now a walk-on wide receiver is because a little bit more than a year ago, he entered the transfer portal rather than like he could be the starting quarter back potentially going into this training camp right now. If he had stayed at Notre Dame, Riley Leonard very well might not be here right now. That's right. And the succession plan would look a lot different. And you know, I saw, well, we had a, you know, they had a, you know, a package for Tyler Buckner when he was a freshman and all this different kind of stuff. Remember, Jack Cone's skill set, Tyler Buckner's skill set, two completely different things. It's part of why you had a Tyler Buckner package because of the kind of athleticism that Buckner could bring to the field. That along with the fact that they wanted to get him on the field, get him some actual game reps because of the fact that he was going to be the starting quarter back the following year. After Jack Cone, none of that is in play right now. So I just, I see, I see zero benefit of designing some kind of Buckner package going forward. Yeah. Look, if, if, if Riley Leonard gets hurt, then Buckner has a skill set that the other three do not have that. Okay. Then we can have a discussion on something that he could bring to the table, right? Because those other three guys aren't the runners that Riley Leonard, they're all athletic. They can all move the chains, you know, that kind of a thing. But they're not Tyler Buckner. Tyler Buckner is dynamic with his legs. No matter whether you think he was a good quarterback or not a good quarterback, he's dynamic with his legs. I think we can all get on that page, right? The other three quarterbacks are not dynamic with their legs. Okay. So yeah, you could put in a package. You could have that ready to go if you wanted to. If Riley Leonard gets hurt, if he's healthy, just stay as far away from that as possible. There's just no point. Correct. Agree. All of the above. Vince, based on what we've seen in the opening days of training camp, scale of one to 10, what chance do you give Dion Colsey to be a significant wide receiver contributor this season? Based on what we've seen so far at practice, I put it at about a one and a half because he has not even been practicing with the ones or the twos. And so I'm not saying he'll be buried there forever. But as of right now, he's not even sniffing the rotation. So I've got to put it pretty low, to be honest with you. Yeah, I would put it at a two at best because, again, like this guy, when we saw the split field last week and they were running first and second string offense on one field, third and fourth string on the other, he was with the third and fourth string guys. And we've already seen some inconsistency with just the simple stuff like holding on to the football. And that's been the biggest thing for Colsey. And you know, look, they brought in Bo Collins, Chris Mitchell and Jaden Harrison. And so far, all three of those guys have looked better than anything we've seen from Colsey in this camp so far. In fact, Jaden Harrison is the guy who's turning heads right now and we weren't even really sure what to think of him as an actual wide receiver, more as a kick returner. I mean, if you write down the names of all the receivers that you think are going to play, you know, in the order that you think they're going to play, Colsey might come in eight, nine, 10 in that neighborhood. And that includes the current freshmen. There's a, I believe there's 11 scholarship wide receivers off the top of my head. I think he's probably in the eight, nine range, you know, right now, from a, from a, from a coach trust slash playing standpoint, you can have a bunch of guys ahead of them at, you know, right now. So, you know, unfortunately for him, I just don't see that being the case. Andrew asks why they sold him on staying. They should have led him transfer. I don't think they necessarily sold him. I think he wanted to stay and I think the debris, you know, might have played into that. I think this was much more about, you know, because like, I think that, that if you went back to last season with the things going on in that room, I think, I think there was a greater chance than not that he was going to leave, the end of the season. But once they made the move at receiver coach, he, you know, he ultimately, well, you got also to remember what that room looked like after the exodus of all those other guys, right? It was empty. There was hardly anybody there. Of course, they're going to ask him to stay that, you know, I'm sure that conversation took place. I'm sure they weren't on their knees begging, but at the same time, there was nobody in that room, Sean, like, yeah, of course, they're going to want him to stick around. They recruited him for a reason. He's secure. All the transfers. Yeah. 100% like, yeah, we want to stop the bleeding. So yes, we want you to stick around. Yeah, they're not going to make any playing time, you know, promises or anything like that. But yeah, you want him to stick around. He's still a body. He's still a guy that you can count on. He's still a good kid. He's not a kid that you want to, you know, run off the team or anything like that. So yeah, you absolutely ask him to stick around. Yeah, you know, I think it's going to take, I think it's going to take basically what would amount to some unfortunate situations for Colsey to get real opportunities. And it's unfortunate. I would love for him to get an opportunity. But he's had a lot of those opportunities and it just hasn't worked out for him. I mean, that's kind of just where we're at right now. Yep. Vince, we got a lot of details on the Michigan sign stealing investigation in scandal, which reminds me, did you, did you delete those 52 texts that I sent you last month? I keep all my texts. We're in trouble. Oh, okay. All right. Well, with it a little bit later, I guess. So Jerome Moore, man, I mean, it is like, I want to, one of seven members of the staff accused of violating NCAA rules. If anybody's wondering why Jim Harbaugh is now the coach of the LA Chargers, you should be wondering no more. Okay. I'll just leave it at that part, but you continue with, I mean, I go ahead. When you sent me the rundown for the show and I started reading because I haven't been following it as closely as maybe I should have as far as like everything that's coming down with Michigan and everything and kind of watching the Olympics and, you know, whatever. Holy crap, Sean, like as I'm reading through it, it's nothing that I didn't think was going on, but the fact that they're actually, they have proof, like proof positive that this stuff occurred and they've got numbers to back it up and they've got level one violations and all of these different things is just like they might as well have had a neon sign outside the practice facility just saying like, we're guilty. We're guilty. I mean, it's just destroying hard drives. Here's some of the highlights for anyone maybe you has. So the investigation revealed among other things 52 texts sent by new Michigan head coach Sharon Moore that he sent to Connor stallions that he deleted. He deleted 52 texts and then ultimately they use something where they were able to go back and recover the text, but he deleted 52 texts for Connor stallions. There were several removed computer hard drives from computers in the building. Crazy. Moore is considered a potential repeat violator by the NCAA because in August of 2023, he negotiated a resolution to claims that he contacted recruits during the COVID-19 recruiting dead period, five of the NCAA's draft says that they used ticket information, film photographs and interviews to determine that Connor stallions had impermissibly scouted at least 13 future Michigan opponents at least 58 different times between 2021 and 2023 that stallions directed others to scout some opponents multiple times, including one team, they scouted seven times in 2022 alone and the draft of this also says that stallions was directing like interns and you know, those kind of people at Michigan to do, you know, a lot of the dirty work and that he led them to believe that what they were doing was not against the rules. And of course, they also have the, you know, the central Michigan disguise, the fact that he obtained a pass to get on the Michigan, central Michigan sideline, but Jim Harbaugh, Chris Partridge, Danard Robinson, stallions also commute accused of committing level one violations, which are the most serious by the NCAA is it is virtually staggering Vince, how much they've got against these guys in this whole deal. It is awesome, frankly, I, I'm enjoying it. I'm wondering how deep it has to go for them to have to give up their championship. Like that, honestly, that's, that's seriously what I'm thinking right now because these are some pretty serious allegations. And I don't even know if we can even use the word allegations anymore because I'm pretty sure they're guilty of every single one of them, otherwise they wouldn't have come out with them in this draft. Like they, they have proof that this all took place. And so I don't know, man, I, I just, it feels like if, if the fab five, you know, Michigan basketball, Chris Weber and, you know, all those guys, like, if they had to vacate a final four appearance, yeah, because of, you know, basically some be it was like, it's stuff that, that started, I think when Chris Weber was in high school, you know, like taking some cash from a guy who ended up being connected, like, if they can vacate that for that, this seems like, like, how can you not vacate everything they did less? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Because I know the people, you know, I've heard the defenders and especially obviously the Michigan people saying, well, we won the games. You know, after, you know, there wasn't any more of the scouting going on. Well, you still had all that information. All that information. You got from that, you know, yeah, that there's no, there's no way that you can defend what they did. There's no way you can defend it. I'm sorry. There's no way you can defend it. It's just wrong on so many levels, you know, so I, I hope they get what ever it is that they get, you know, and I'll enjoy it when they get it. I would love for their championship to be taken away. They probably won't happen because as Joe says, the NCAA doesn't have any backbone anymore. I tend to agree with that. So they probably will just get a slap on the wrist. But my goodness, these are some serious allegations. Like come on, man, why do you, why do you have to break the rules? If you're, if you're that good, why do you have to break the rules? If you, if you think you're that good, why are you breaking the rules? And it like throw out anyone who's actually attached to Michigan, like the amount of people who theoretically supposed to be neutral who I've heard saying, like I've heard some fairly prominent college football writer saying, well, everyone does some form of sign stealing. If you don't understand the difference between doing it while you're standing on the sideline or sitting in a press box during a game against the team you're playing, like in the moment, correct? That kind of sign stealing is completely different than sending people out, recording signals weeks before the game to obtain as much information and catalog as, you know, much of the signs is that is completely different than actually doing it during a game. And if you don't understand how different those two things are, you really shouldn't have anything to do with college sports in any capacity. If you, if you, if you don't understand the difference between those two things. 100% agree with that, 100% agree with that, it, it, there's, they don't, they went way too far. They went way, way, way too far with this entire thing, way too far. And then they covered it up, you know, when I say the cover up is worse than the crime, they all knew, they all knew, they all knew Vince and they let it happen. That's all I'm saying. And then they tried to cover it up after the fact. So, you know, you're, you're erasing text messages, hard drives, you know, all these different things, you know, the head coach bales, basically. So he doesn't have to face the music. All these different things have occurred. They need to drop the hammer. It won't happen, but they need to. And I guess Connor Stallion's never cooperated with the investigation, but, but there's going to be that Netflix series. Isn't he going to have a Netflix documentary? I'm even more curious now to see what comes, what comes out in that. How is the NCAA not going to just sit back with a notepad and a pencil and just watch that Netflix documentary and come up with more stuff? Yeah. Because you know, he's just going to be blabbing his mouth, you know, because he's an idiot, but whatever. Hey, it's appointment TV. I'll be watching it. If it's all him, if, if the only point of view is, is him sitting there defending everything he did and whatever else, then obviously it's not going to be worth watching. But at least with all this coming out right now, I'm more, I'm more interested now than ever in, in what's going to come out in that thing. Right. Absolutely. I'll be watching. Okay. So I saw DK pose this question in the new champions lounge over the weekend. So DK said the group of five will get a team into the college football playoff regardless of its ranking. It's just the highest ranked group of five team that gets an automatic bid into the college football playoff. So DK asks, should there be a minimum ranking that the group of five should have in order to qualify for the playoffs? So what do you think about that? Well, here's the thing. I mean, unless it's a season where there is no group of five team who's undefeated or, you know, whatever the case may be, first of all, they have to be a conference champion. That's a prerequisite for them to get in. That's already there. They have always overly inflated the ranking of a group of five team. They always have and they always will. And so I don't think there should be a minimum because if there's a minimum, the college football playoff committee will just put them wherever that minimum needs to be. So I don't think that really solves anything because the rankings are done by the people that run the college football playoff. So they're going to rank it. So you can basically make it, you know, all you got to do is say, well, they're the number 12 team because like, did we really think that Liberty should have been ranked as high as they were last year? I mean, realistically, should they have been whatever they ended up, weren't they like the low teams? I think when it was all said and done, did we really think that they were going to beat teams that were ranked in the 20s, for example, with like three losses that play a power five schedule? No, that's unrealistic, but that's where they were ranked to make sure that it made sense when they made it to the playoff, or into the new year six, right, right? All that absolutely right. The key for these next couple of years of the playoff to expand to 12 as early as they did, because remember the original contract, they were still supposed to be playing the four year playoff this year. In order to change the format before the contract came up, you had to get unanimous approval by everyone in the FBA, like each of the FBS conferences. So you were not going to get the group of five conferences to ratify the change to the playoff. You were not going to get them to vote yes to change it if you're going to leave the group of five out. So that's part of it as well. That's true. Good point. You basically had to appease the passes by throwing them a bone and giving them a path to the playoff. And I mean, I get what DK, you don't want to have a Patsy in there for no reason, but odds are, just like you were saying, whether it's Liberty or UCF or Boise State back in the day, whoever it happens to be, you're going to have one of those teams who's going to have like one loss or no losses. And it's like, what does it hurt basically to make them the 12 C to the 14 C, depending on what format you're playing in, right? So DK says Liberty was 23. I looked it up there. 100% were number 23. SMU was 24. Kansas State was 25. On a neutral field, are you taking Liberty or Kansas State? Oh, Kansas State in a heartbeat, right, an absolute heartbeat, yet they were ranked two slots ahead. They're going to rank teams the way they want them to be. And they remember the debate last year was and sloppy Joe reminded me of this was an SMU or Liberty, you know, who should be ranked higher? Well, Liberty was undefeated. And I believe SMU had a loss. SMU was the better team. If you if you pit them up on a neutral field, SMU wins that game every time. But because they were undefeated, they got that little nudge and they got to be 23 while SMU was 24. You know what I mean? So they're going to manipulate it. However, they need to manipulate it to make it come out the way they wanted to come out. And you know, look, you're you're essentially, you know, I realize, you know, there's there's probably a case for everyone gets a trophy. Everyone gets a ribbon or whatever. But you're essentially you're you're throwing a bone like these are also FBS conferences. So is their main purpose? Just to come in, play against each other, get some big paychecks for going in and being the whipping boy, you know, some of the power five teams or do they should should they at least have, you know, should one team? Because that's all you're giving is one spot. Yeah, you know, you're giving one spot out of all of these group of five programs, you know, all you're doing is giving them entry into the tournament. It's really, yeah, not that much different than, you know, 13, 14, 15 seeds in the NCAA basketball tournament. Exactly. You're just you're, you're, you're, you're in the automatic bit. You're giving entry to everybody. And look, you know, if you want to put yourselves in the shoes of like a group of five team, you know, it gives them something to shoot for, right? And if you're a Liberty or if you're a, let's say a ball state or somebody like that that has a really good season and you've got an opportunity to be a higher ranked group of five team, that the money that they would get being in the playoff is more money than they would have ever seen in multiple years of playing group of five football. You know what I mean? And so that's something to shoot for. And, and, and the experience of being a part of it, all of those different things. It's a carrot. It's a carrot for those teams. And I honestly, I don't, I do not have a problem with it, especially since I followed 100 AIM. And the best they can do is number five. They're going to be playing that team a lot if they end up in that number five hole, right? And so, you know, it's an automatic win pretty much. So I'm okay with that part two. Yep. So I know you've been watching the Olympics. I've been watching the Olympics. 100 meter final yesterday, the man's 100 meter final. I missed it live. But how could you have missed everything that has come after it? Oh my gosh. Holy cow. Lee Diffy calling the Olympic track and field action for NBC. I was originally going to play audio. Yeah, I'm not going to do it because I don't want like get demonetized. Yeah, I don't want to because I've even just played audio before and not the video and we've gotten flagged and I don't want to go through that. Oh, I hear you. So the bottom line is it's neck and neck coming down to the wire. You've got four guys within, you know, hundreds of a second of each other as they'll come to the finish line. And the Jamaican court, you know, Diffy thought that the Jamaican had one and he's like, Jamaica wins the gold medal. And you know, the whole thing and he goes nuts. And then the next thing, you know, everyone's standing around and it turns like, well, a little bit of a problem here because it's actually no allows the American of one who got the gold medal. And again, like this thing was so close. Like, I have a hard time seeing how any, anyone sitting in that spot like Diffy could pull a Vince Diderio and declaratively. Oh, on a second. Why are you throwing me under the bus like that? Look, you can be excited. What did you think? What did you think of his the way NBC handled? Because even beyond just the actual call by Diffy, I thought there are a lot of other things that went wrong like afterwards. And in sort of the, there was a lot of chaos and confusion created by NBC's broadcast, I think. Well, look, you can be excited about a race and not to clear a winner. You know what I mean? If it's not clear and obvious, you should wait for it to flash up on the scoreboard that you have available to you, not to mention the fact that if you watched any swimming or anything like that, like Rowdy Gaines had like the splits and like all of these different things at, you know, his disposal. So we know that these commentators have information at their disposal that we don't have. And so if it doesn't come up automatically as the winner that you think is the winner, shut your mouth. Be excited about the race. Right. And be like, Oh my gosh, it was too close to call. You know, we're going to have to wait and it's a photo finish. Like you can be excited without declaring a winner. It seems like that was the natural, like what should have, you know, again, like it happens in the moment, you know, whatever, and he's done a million of these things. So he's more experienced, but it just feels like when it's literally, you've got four guys lined up that close with like, right, and arms and heads and leaning and everything else. It's like, it's just going to be too close to call like that seems like that would have been the natural thing to say. Like, watch a car's movie. Like the, you know, the first car's movie. That's how you call a, how you call a game. Okay. Oh, no idea what you're talking about, but I'll believe you. Well, because you don't have kids that are the same age as mine. But, you know, there was a tie at the beginning of the very first race, which is the whole point of the plot. Three cars tied. And so they have to go, they would end up doing a race to play it off, right? With just the three cars. Well, we're, whatever. Bob Costas is the announcer for that. And he's like, Oh my gosh, it's too close to call. We'll have to go to a photo finish. There you go. That's how you call a close race. Like, come on, man, just because then the other part of this whole thing is like they literally were like milling around for minutes. It took, there was like silence before they finally were like, no, Elias is, you know, like, like they never showed, you know, like, yeah, the board inside, yeah, the stadium that showed the leaders. They never put a graphic on the screen after literally, you know, hanging out for minutes and showing Lyle celebrate and run around and do his whole thing. They never put the final standings up on the screen to show us exactly who place where because oh, by the way, they buy, they barely mentioned the other American who took bronze, you know, like barely even mentioned that. And literally, it was like a couple hundreds of a second that separated, you know, thousands of a second was that what it ended up being because I think to the second decimal place, which is hundreds, they were the same. And then they had to go to five thousandths of a second. True figure out first to second. You know what I mean? So like, they were, I mean, what? Yeah, good point. Swing the camera. Look at the scoreboard and just stay there. Just stay on the scoreboard while you wait for it. Give us the visual. Your TV, like, it didn't be that hard. And again, you know, even, even not doing that, again, they never put the graphic up on the screen before they finally cut away. You would fit in. And like, I sent you a tweet, the BBC's broadcast of the whole thing. There's was awesome, by the way. Yeah, they had like so much information they were showing that NBC never even thought about. Michael Johnson was geeking out at all of like the visual, you know, stuff that they had to show you. Like they showed, you know, who was ahead at the 30 meter mark, who was ahead at the 50 meter mark, like all of these different things and then how fast they were going. And I mean, it was like in from almost information overload, to be honest with you, but in comparison, it was so much better than the NBC version. So much better. And, you know, I think Otto Bolton, the, the guy who does the color on NBC, you know, he's, he's fine, but it's, I do find it ironic that you've got an Australian and Bolton. I can't remember exactly where Bolton is, he's obviously from one of the, you know, Caribbean islands, never, never ran for the U.S. Like, they're the guys who are doing the broadcast on NBC. Well, Michael Johnson, one of the greatest male track performers in U.S. history. BBC is doing BBC broadcast. How is that? How is that happening? Yeah, makes perfect sense. I don't get it. Yeah. You got me on that one. I've got no explanation for that. I've got no explanation for that. They just need to bring back like Tom Hammond and just let him do it. I don't, you know, I don't even know. I'm good. It's Tom Hammond still alive. I don't even know if I should. I believe he is. Okay, good. Bring him back. It's only two weeks. It's actually track and fields only a week. Bring him back. He was good. Everyone's very excited about NBC doing, doing the NBA and Notre Dame football now at this point, but you're going to get Dan Hicks, Dan Hicks from the pool in Paris. I think he's going to be awesome doing Notre Dame games. I like Dan Hicks, actually, as an announcer in general. I think so. And I think he does a fantastic. Hammond Rowdy games are amazing doing swimming. If you can't sit down and watch a close swimming race and not get excited with those two guys doing the call, then you don't have a passionate bone in your body. Yeah, NBC needs to find that and how, you know, whatever that booth translates to the track and field booth. Right. I think they need to figure that out many more days. They've got four years to figure that out. But, you know, Jesse, I was talking to Jesse this weekend and he's like seeing Dan Hicks calling this swimming and knowing that that's what Notre Dame is going to have doing football games this fall. That's pretty exciting. I just want to give, you know, we've got about a month. Just have rowdy gains move into my house. I'll teach him all he needs to know about football. Get him as the color. Just let me know. They could be in great shape. I'll teach him everything he needs to know. He gets it done. I think it would be great. I think that you could do a lot worse than that. All right. And they have. NBC has done a lot worse. Yeah. That's very, very true. Yeah. All right. Well, that's going to do it for tonight. Thanks for being here. We've got a lot to go. Fall camp rolls on this week. And, you know, like Vince said, we're not supposed to say exactly when we're going to be out there and all that stuff. But we'll have some more camp availabilities this week. And we'll be here to talk about it. Whether it's on this show or Brian's show or we'll have we and we out later this week as well. So let us stuff to come this week on both Ivy Nations Sports Talk as well as the big show earlier in the day. We'll have some more comments from coaches and stuff like that on tomorrow's show. We got to talk to Dila McCulloch last week. And I didn't even get to play Dila today. So looking forward to that coming up this week. All right, Vince, I will talk to you later. Everybody else. Appreciate you again for being here. Hit that like button and subscribe, rate, review, all that good stuff. 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