Pop Culture Man Children
354: They Call Me the Tornado
(upbeat music) - Welcome to PCMC, I'm Mike Brouggio. I'm joined today by Ms. Janine Gagliardi. - Hello. - How are you today? - I'm good, I'm good. Now that we've chased my children up the stairs finally. - Yes, yes. - They were desperate to see you, Mike. - Yet they don't, I don't think care for me that much. They're just excited that a person's coming in. - They're excited that you're here. They wanna show you everything that they own. - Luckily, it is relevant to my interests. They, Harry knows who you are. He's excited about the idea of a podcast and was hiding at the top of the stairs trying to watch the podcast happen. Peter is unsure, but he knows that you like Ghostbusters 'cause of the tattoo. And also, he thinks you might be his father. He was like, "Is Mike daddy?" I was like, "You know who daddy is, what?" - He knows that I have a Ghostbusters tattoo yet. He did ask me just now if I've seen it. - Right, well, maybe he didn't. - I just liked the design. - Maybe somebody's a cool design. - I just liked the design. - Did you ever see Ghostbusters? - Yes, they all-- - I actually love that as a question for someone who has the tattoo of the thing. Did you ever see it? - Yeah, they were jumping around. They were going around on fucking the couch. - Yeah, this couch is taking a beating. It's less than a year old. - Is it really less than a year old? - It's less than a year. We'll have it for a year in October and it's just, they've demolished it. Bill's like, "I just want to get five years out of this couch." - Oh, that's not. - The couch previously got like, I think we had it for like 17 years or something. - Oh, yeah, of course. - And then when the kids came along, it was like, we had it maybe for the two more years with the kids. They were like, "Oh, okay, we have to get rid of this." - No one's straight up jumping. - Jumping, fully jumping. - Yeah. - Yeah, Bill's like, "Please, let's get five years." I'm like, "Okay, we'll try, we'll try." - Good luck with that. How's it going? - It's been busy. It's been busy the last few weeks. I was telling you off the air, we had the both boys are born in July, so we had their birthdays. Then we went to Universal, which is great. And we came back, they have a series of like, not serious, but they have a series of like medical procedures that have to get done. - Sure. - They're healthy kids. - That's your removals. - You know, usual stuff. Like tattoo their eyebrows on. They're really interested in that. Laser hair removal. - Sure. - All that stuff. - You can never start to yell. - No. So yeah, we have a few things that we have to get done, so I'm looking forward to like, coasting through August, getting the back to school together. All that stuff is back to school stuff. - As a parent. - Do you see that at the end of the table? - Mm-hmm. - Like two big bags of back to school stuff. - Is there really ever a coasting time, isn't there? - No, no, there really is. - Or is it just a carrot at the end of a stick that you will never reach? - Yeah, that's exactly right. Because even when they're adults, you'll still worry about them. Like once they're out of, in the world, it's like your head is always somehow like wondering about them, worrying about them. Like it never ends. - Especially Peter, right? - Oh. - Kind of he's gonna be like a nice certified public accountant. (laughing) And Peter's gonna be like a roadie or something. - Oh yeah, probably. Most likely. Peter, you know. We hope for Peter. - He's gonna be, he's gonna be the trouble one. - I hope not troubled. - Not troubled, but he'll be trouble for you. - He's already trouble for me. (laughing) He's, they call him the tornado. - He has, he does have a great deal of energy. - He really does. - He really does. - He showed me his proton pack. It's the literal size of him. I don't know how he puts that on. - He puts it on and he lugs it around. He's strong. When he woke up, when he woke up from surgery the other day. - He punched out the doctor. - He punched everyone in the room including them. - Yes, yeah. - We got kicked out of the hospital. Usually they make you wait to like drink something. - Get this kid out. - So that they know that like your insides are okay. They're like, you don't have to wait. They took the IV off of him, which they usually wait till after he drinks. - He ripped it off with his teeth. - Took it off of him and the nurse was like, you should go. They were like, oh, okay. So Bill had to carry him out like long ways. He had no shoes on and he with his finger in her face went to the nurse. You are a poop-y head. - Wow. - Yeah, he was screaming, I hate doctors. He was like, he was a wild man when he woke up. He was kicking, screaming. He pulled Bill's hair. If you got close to me trying to bite you. - What was, what was. - It was just anesthesia, like leaving a system. He made him a total nutcase. - Like, wow. I mean, yeah, we've never seen anything like that before. I'm like, oh. - It's an immovable object. Like moving. - He's the world's most stubborn person. So like, the fact that we got, like we made him do something when he woke up, he was raring to go. He was very head. - He very upset. - Medical professionals he wanted to chastise. - He was done. He had had it with them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that was that. - Well, I think it sounded great. It's going very well over here, as you can see. - Well. - Are you smelling this candle smell? I'm not 'cause my kind is lovely. - It's too far from us, but I do see it in as lovely. It's a forest adventure. - Yeah, that's right. - Oh, Magic Candle Company. - AKA. - ET. - I can't smell it. - I can kind of smell it. - Let's do some news. - Okay, let's do it. I'm interested in news. What you got, what you got. - Oh, stuff is going on. - What's going on? - Let's see. All of the news today is very childish. - Oh, he's-- - I'm seeing. - Okay. - Are you familiar, have you ever heard of the television show "Jelly Stone" exclamation mark? - Well, imagine it's a Yogi Bear. - Yogi Bear fronts it. - He fronts it. - He is the mean, I was gonna be a dog, but he's in fact a bear. - He's the top bear. - He, yes, but it's a cartoon. - It's a current cartoon network show. - Okay. - But it has a lot of Hannibal Bear characters. It's sort of like one of those, almost like a throwback to like the Laph Olympics. Like it's just a bunch of, it's mostly Yogi Bear, but then like a bunch of other Hannibal Bear characters. - Okay. - Okay, so they have, coming up, a big crossover event. - Oh. - It's an episode of this show, but the episode is called "Crisis on Infinite Mirths", which is-- - Avengers could never. - Great. So this is gonna be, "Crisis on Infinite Mirths" is coming up soon. They were just talking about a Comic Con. There's a list of the characters that are gonna appear in this. - Penelope Pitstop, baby, tell me she's in it. - She might be already in it. - Oh, okay. - I think a lot of the characters in it are from that period. - All right, I need my first car after her. I loved her so much. - Oh yeah. - Mikey Racers. - Here's who's gonna appear on this show. The "Pow Puff Girls", Dexter's Laboratory, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. - That's all of that era. - Evil Con, Kanye, never seen it. Ed Ed and Eddie, regular show. - Oh. - Camp Lazlo, adventure time. - Wow. - Chowder. - Yeah. - Time squad, forces home for imaginary friends. - Oh wow. - Coward chicken. - Oh, okay. - Johnny Bravo. - Nice. - Samurai Jack. - Okay. - Code name kids next door. - Okay. - Ben 10. - Okay. - Whatever happened to robot Jones, I've no idea what that is. - I don't know. - My gym partner is a monkey. - Okay. - The Marvelous, "Mrs. Flapjack". - I think he's a Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. (laughs) - That would be what a crossover. (laughs) - Flapjack, I've heard a flapjack, yeah. - So it's gonna be, it was previously teased that I'm reading comic book news. It was previously teased that over 60 cartoon characters would be appearing in "Jelly Stone, Course of a Special", but the full roster of shows and characters has yet to be revealed at the time of this publication. So there could be way more than this too. The fact that it's called "Crisis on Infinite Mirths" makes me wonder if they're taking the multiverse concept from the comic book "Crisis on Infinite Earths", which was DC's like multiverse. It was actually DC's way, I forget when they did it, the 80s. - It was like cleaning up all the various lines that they had. - Yeah, it was a way of resetting continuity and kind of starting fresh again. - Yeah. - That was before everything was fucking multiverse. - Yeah, yeah, which is wild to me because they, I don't know if this is part of your news, but basically if we're talking Marvel, they meticulously constructed this canon only to end with like, okay, now we're gonna do multiverse and just like fuck it all up. - Right, now everything is-- - Which is fine because then you can get interesting storylines 'cause we've discussed canon, you and I, and then we find suffocating, but-- - Yes. - I do think as "Crisis on Infinite Earths" which predates all of this ever happening. I mean, even Marvel Civil War, it does get messy at times. If you wanna tell like one story that makes sense. - Well, you know what's, the thing, you probably haven't seen "Deadpool" 'cause you've been really busy. - I have, I sure have. No, I haven't seen it. I have been busy. - So, "Mean Jen Sword" the new "Deadpool" and the, and I guess these are mild spoilers, but there is no story. It's just cameos, the whole, like I enjoyed it a lot. - Yeah. - Because I'm a human who has effects. You know what I mean? But it's barely a movie and I can't see myself ever watching it again. - Really? - 'Cause "Deadpool" is like your comfort movie, right? - "Deadpool One." - "Deadpool One" is amazing. Still the best one. Still one of the best superhero movies. "Deadpool" did put, shot put. - Shot put two. - Two. - Cannonball one. - As well. - "Deadpool Two" is, okay. In this new one it's just, it's just, oh look. And that will only have that once. You don't get all look more than once. It only has, it's like a, it's like a one time, like magic trick, it's gone. - Yeah. - The Austin Powers movies did this as well. - Right. - By three, you know, the opening credits from all the cameos. - Yes, yes. - And it's like, oh cool. - But the difference here is like, it's partially celebrity cameos, but it's also character cameos. Like look, it's this person. Who would have thunk it? I mean, and so this thing we're talking about, crisis over the Earth obviously will be that. - Yeah. - But it's also like, maybe it fits in something that's stupid. You know what I mean? It's a little kitty thing. - Yeah. - Although regular show is like, skews much older than these other things. - Yeah, you have these age ranges for things where it's like the seven plus crowd, but then there's sort of almost like the, I feel like 10 is a real cut off, and then also, by the 10 to 10 ages, they're not really watching this stuff, but I feel like you can get away with it for adventure times certainly. But regular show also, I think, will fit in there. - Yeah, yeah. - But like, I watched Powerpuff Girls when I was a teenager. Like, a lot of my friends did. - Yeah. - We thought it was funny. - Yeah, Powerpuff Girls. - I had like Powerpuff Girls pajama pants when I was in high school. - You and I went to see the first Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie when it came out. - Oh yeah, but that's Adult Swim. - But remember Powerpuff Girls had a cameo in that? - Oh, I don't remember that. - I remember it because I remember the audience being excited about it. - Yeah, I'm sure they were. - There was two cameos. There was that and a cameo from Space Ghost, and both got a big hop in the audience. - Yeah. - Speaking of Space Ghost. - Was like the first Adult Swim show, basically. Space Ghost. - And I think-- - Coast to Coast. - Yeah. - And Aqua Teen Hunger Force is sort of a spin-off of Space Ghosts. - Mm. - There were characters that appeared on an episode they never aired. - Wow. - And then they were like, let's, even though we don't think this episode's good enough to air, let's make a show out of it. - And when Space Ghost, and then it was like sea lab. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I loved that. I love those early days. - Yeah. - And I remember the early Cartoon Network days when they would only show Hanna-Barbera card. - Yes, that's fresh. - Like when it first started. - Yeah. - And that's how I learned about Birdman. - Yeah. - It became Harvey Birdman attorney at law, which is another show. - I think a good show. - I love, I love all that stuff. I love the Hanna-Barbera stuff. Watch the Snorks. - Yeah. - You know? It's like, the Snorks is the one that, like, your girlfriend tells you not to worry about when you're a smurf. Yes, I loved all that stuff. And I was actually, like, a little sad to see that the Hanna-Barbera ride is gone in Universal. It's not there anymore. - It's here, yeah. - It's Minions Mayhem. That whole area became a minion land. - It's not a young Sheldon Luddler ride. - No, no. But, I can tell you this, the Jimmy Fallon ride, don't sleep on it. It was one of our favorites. And, like, on the last day, I was like, you gotta pick your favorites. And everybody was, like, the Jimmy Fallon ride. - Really? - Actually, very good. The ride itself. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. - Okay. - You know, don't knock it. And as a 30-rock fan, it was really cool to go into the building. - Oh, you go through, like-- - 'Cause you go through, it's like 30-rock. It's great, yeah. - That's fun. - And they have everybody's a page. Like, anyone who works at the ride is a page, which is really cool. - Oh, that's cute. - So, that was fun. - That is fun. That is fun. Do you go back in time and see, like, John Belushi doing Coke in the corner? - No, it's just a race through New York. So, like, you go through, like, all New York monuments, and then you go to outer space for some reason. - Sure, sure, sure, sure. - It's all fun. - All right. Well, so, I think that this is a cute idea. I think the multiverse idea is cute. I think it's played out already in-- - I agree, yeah. - And Deadpool does this thing of making fun of it and saying it's overdone, but also doing it. Like, hey, it's okay that we do the thing, 'cause we're pointing out that it's not good, and it's like, well, you're still doing it. But this is a fun idea. Things like this is fun. I'm totally for a shit like this. - Why not? - So, have you ever watched the toys that made us? - Yes, not, I've never, I haven't watched the entire series, but I have watched a few episodes, but I know it's coming. - It's been gone for a few years, and people thought it was all the way gone. - Yeah, right, yeah. - And then they announced two more seasons, and then Joy-- - I didn't know that. I know it is coming in the next season, though. - Just a couple days ago, they released a trailer, which was sort of based on, it's a parody of the trailer to the "New Indiana Jones" movie, and they were-- - Everything's just a hat on a hat on a hat. - I know. - But in the trailer, they released all of the topics. So the one you know is-- - Ghostbusters. - Ghostbusters. Very excited, and from the comments, it seems like people are very excited about the Ghostbusters episode. - Big time. - Let me tell you something. - My fandom of Ghostbusters was so minimal prior to Peter getting into them, that I was just like, yeah, sure, it's Ghostbusters, I like Ghostbusters, this is great. My name is Janine, I know all about it. Not really, it's fine, I've seen the movie, yeah. And now it's like, oh, I know that's from this line, and we got all the toys, and now it's like, the mug I drink out of in the morning is a Ghostbusters mug, which is extremely cool mug, by the way. That's from the new line. Just, I mean, we visited the tribute store, and then the next day, they were like, that part of the store was gone, and they put in this whole new stuff. So my back were like, wait, this is all new. - Wow. - Yeah, so this brand new merch. But yes, so now I'm excited. - I see that with jealousy. - What's nice is like, Bill and I were saying, will be fans of ghost, like he and I will be Ghostbusters fans for the rest of our lives, because whenever we see something with Ghostbusters, even if Peter's not into it anymore, we'll be like, oh my God, it's Ghostbusters. Peter loves this, and we'll be sending him pictures when he's like 35 years old, and be like, mom, I don't, you know, okay, thanks. Life like our parents have that feeling. - I would, yeah. - I would do, I do remember, Ghostbusters came up in a conversation, not that long ago with an uncle of mine, and he said, I should have got an Academy Award for how many times I had to watch that fucking movie. So I don't know if he has good feelings about it. - Some things you definitely feel that way about as a parent, but like other things, it's nice, it's like your own nostalgia for your child's age, that they're not gonna stay forever, you know? - Yeah, sure, sure, sure, you're right. - Exactly, they're not gonna like it. But then they'll turn 20 and like it again. - Yeah. - You know what I mean, like they gotta go through, they have to go through the whole journey of pulling away and then being disaffected and angry or whatever, who am I, blah, blah, blah. And then you come back to like, I have a job and I'm cool. You know what I mean, it's like, it's a whole journey. - I have my own money, I'm going to buy the things I like. - That's the thing that's so interesting to me about life, which is like, when you're like a teenager, you feel like this is it, man. And now that I'm for almost 41, I feel like that was not it at all. Like that's a little blurb, like a little blurb. That like, it's just like, you're just a bold up fist. That's just like-- - You're running, you're ready to go, but you can't do it. - And now life is like so much more life. - You don't have to have money. You don't have your freedom, right? So-- - You're just like running into wolves with energy. - I have like journals and journals from that time period, not because I was so angsty, but because I had like, nothing to do but think about like, what's my life gonna be like? - You're like, what do I want to do? - What do I want to do? - What do I want to do? And now I'm like, I don't have a moment to put like, a thought down, like-- (laughing) And it's just like, 'cause you're just living. - Right. - You're just living the life now and you're doing it. - I read, I like getting older. I just like it. - Well, you know, it's a privilege to get older. - It is. - It is. So besides-- - We should all be so lucky. - Ghostbusters. - Yes. - Here are some of the other topics. Superhero toys. - Okay. - Marvel and DC. - Sure. - American-- - It's so broad. - I know. - I think what are they gonna do? - This next one's broad, American Greetings. - Oh. - They're a gift card company, but they also made caribears and strawberry shortcake. So I guess those-- - The same rainbow bright too. I feel like that's-- - Oh, maybe. - Maybe they did. - They might put those all into one episode. - 'Cause she has like, the same face design. - Yes, I think she might be. - Yeah. - Hot wheels. Nurse. - Wow, okay. - Polypocket. - Yes. - Pokemon. - Okay. - And here's what I'm really excited about fast food toys. - Yes. - The McNugget. - Speaking of fast food toys. - Yes. - Do you remember, one of my favorite fast food toys ever, and I was like in high school. (laughing) I was thinking about this because for Halloween this year, we're gonna be, our theme will be Universal Monsters. - Oh, yes. That's right. Very exciting. - In 1995. - I thought you were giving me a sneak peek of yours and Jen's costumes. I was like, "You're gonna be Universal." No, I know what we're doing. We're doing the episode. We should be Universal Monsters. - I know. - I can tell you what the boys are gonna be. - But go on. Later. - Thank you. In 1995 and '96, Burger King did Universal Monster toys. And it was like, do you remember these? - I don't think so. Maybe I still have them somewhere. They were really good. - Please bring them. - They were figures. - Yeah. - Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman. Creature from the Black Lagoon that lit up. - Wow. I think I might be forgetting one. But anyway, you don't neck a toys. The sort of like high end, like. - You don't remember these at all? - You don't remember those at all? - No. They're cool though. - They're very good. They're very good. - But even though they got a little coffin. - Yeah, they came with stuff. They were very cool. - They didn't give Creature from the Black Lagoon anything. Come on. - Well, he lights up on his own. - Oh, okay. I see, I see. Oh, you know. - They did things. Like I think Dracula comes out of his coffin. And Frankenstein, he lights up when you put him on his table. Like it lights up his holes. - Yeah, like it's a clear kind of, he's sort of a clear skin. - I don't remember what Wolfman does. I think he breaks through like a barn door or something. - Yeah. He jumps out of the cellar. - Anyway, they are doing high end, like remakes like inspired by these toys. - Yeah. - That I'm not going to get because neck toys are so freakin' expensive. But if I had stupid money, I would absolutely get them. Let me see if I can find like here's, these are, so behind, in the front are the, I'm showing you your picture. In the front are the originals. - Yeah, oh wow. - Those are the ones, the necker. So like this was a deal that they're remaking these. This was like, not, it was like really good toys. And when I think of Universal Monsters, it's one of the things that I think about. - Really? - Yeah. - Wow, that's so not on my radar at all. - I like remember, I distinctly remember like taking the bus just to go to Burger King to get them. And I'm like 15 maybe. - Oh wow. So you've always been into the Universal Monsters then. - Yeah, since I was a kid, 'cause they were on VHS and stuff. - Okay, okay. - Yeah, I mean, I think I found the movies themselves boring or like hard to watch. I was really just interested in when they were on screen. And I was interested in Abernichostello meets Frankenstein. - Okay. - 'Cause that's all of them, plus it's funny. - Yeah. One thing I was gonna ask you about is, have you seen the Mondo toy line for? - Yes, those are crazy expensive. - They're so expensive, but it's a set. So it's like 202 for a collector's set and you get either Peter, Sam Hain, and something else. - Yeah, these are Mondo who, I think Mondo's owned by Alamo draft house. - Really? - Wow. - They are doing a line of really well done, beautiful-- - Yeah. - Real Ghostbusters toys, including some classic villains on that show. - Right. - Because it seems the real Ghostbusters villain toys never matched what was in the show, other than Slimer. - Right, you get like gel jaw. - Yeah, it was all puns. - It was all puns. - Okay, they're all clear. I guess they all glow in the dark? Maybe not, maybe not. - Oh no, those are the ones that would come with it. - Come with it. - But they'd be just regular figures of like a granny, and then like you push a button in her head, like her hat comes up and you see she has a third eye. Like a lot of shit like that, a lot of punny kind of like fright feature-y shit. - Okay. - Those look gorgeous. - Yeah. - Those look really good. - I really like the boogeyman a lot. - The boogeyman. - Looks so crazy. - What a foe, what a foe he was. - Yeah. - Have you seen all of that show now? - Almost, we're into the era where it gets extremely weird, where it was like way too many cooks in the kitchen. - Yeah. - Jay Michael Shorsinski's not writing for them anymore. The voices are all over the place, and then they have like the animation style dips, like big time, the quality. And they start bringing on these characters that look like they have designs almost from tiny tunes. Like it doesn't match the animation style. It's like a scientist and his dog. - Oh, like the-- - And he's like precious, we're gonna catch this slimer. - Well that's what it became slimer in the real business. And it was just about slimer doing shit. - Yeah, but prior to this character coming in, the credits change, but the storylines are still about the Ghostbusters primarily, but it's called slimer in the real Ghostbusters. So it's like this weird-- - I don't know how they organize them. - Me neither, it's super weird. - There was technically speaking two simultaneous series. There was a Monday through Friday strip show that was made syndicated, like made as a package. But then ABC also had a weekly Saturday show with the same designs and most of the same writers. - Okay. - So like they're two-- - That explains a lot of stuff that-- - They're two shows basically. - Where sometimes-- - That are one show. - Like sometimes in one season, it'll be Dave Cool-Yay for like two episodes and then it's like another Lorenzo music episode. - That might be the jump back and forth between ABC and syndicated. - So yeah, we're into that. I'm like, I don't wanna buy another volume of this show. Like I hate it now, like I don't like the story lines anymore. - Yeah, when that weird scientist guy comes in and then like Luigi, the Luigi. - What? - You know what I'm talking about? - No. - Have you seen the slimer opening? - Yes. - He has like two friends. He's got a doorman friend. - Oh, okay. - And then a guy who like, well Luigi who like works at an Italian, like a pizzeria that's his friend and their friends and it's about them doing shit. - What? - We haven't gotten up to that yet. We've seen the opening credits, the change in the credits, but not those stories, thank God for that. - It gets super weird. And then they also bring in a lot of actual children, like little kids. - Yeah, children are like playing a big role now, like orphanage children who are like the little Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters Junior. - Yeah. - I don't know, no, no, no, this is not right. I don't like any of this. - So our last new story is one that I'm sure you've heard and it's, like I'm just talking about, 'cause let's talk about it. It doesn't throw me, nothing throws me. - No, that's not true. Lots of things throw me, but Marvel doesn't. - Oh, I know. - Robert Downey Jr. is going to play Dr. Doom. - This well is dry. - I know. - There's one funny joke in Deadpool where Deadpool says something about, you know, all of this multiverse stuff really sucks. And then another Deadpool variant who's like very nice is like, I think everything's been great since Endgame. Which is funny because this is part of the bad ones. But at least they're acknowledging that it's bad now. Well, okay, so they announced this at Comic Con in a real big fucking deal. And everyone, of course, they are shit themselves. - Right, right, right. Well, because the Robert Downey Jr. was in the room with them. So that's exciting, right, I guess. And there's got to be some, it's not just, he's going to be in it. There's got to be some multiversal reason why he looks like Iron Man. - Sure. - And they've been shit like that in the comics, I believe. It's not just going to be he's playing. It's going to be, he's Dr. Doom. I'm sure he's really going to play him, but canonically, like he looks like Tony Stark for some reason. - Right, but isn't in the multiverse, like a person with the same name will be a different person. Really played by a different actor. - So now this person's face ended up on Victor Von Doom, not Tony Stark. - I have no idea. - I hate that, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. - So they, there was a leaked trailer for the Fantastic Four movie, which looks good because I saw it. - Yes, and it's before it was taken off, and it's got like a-- - Bill Screen recorded it the second it was on, because he's like, this is going to get taken down. I know that. - It's got a '60s Ring-a-Ding. - I like that. - Which I think is smart to lean into the, like look at the last one, which I didn't see though, that one, but the last one they made, like a few years ago. - They've never been able to get this off the ground. Like, the first one was a home bass, and then the last one-- - I didn't see. - I didn't see, but it seemed like they were trying to be cool, and it's like, that's not what these guys are. - No. - At least it looks like this-- - It looks like this-- - Like a rubber band, like it's not going to be cool. - It looks like this new one they're leaning into. Like, this is early, early Marvel, and it's silly. - It's silly. - And it's pastity silly. And then the next two are Avengers movies, or colds. - It's like, "Dr. Doom" is one of them. - One is "Doom Day", the "Doom's Day". There's two more. And that's, so I guess they could introduce, so I guess we're done with Kang, which is good, because it feels like that whole period has been a real fucking mess. - Yeah. - So let's forget Kang, and it looks like "Doom" is good. - And "Doom" is a better big bad, I think. - Part of it is, part of it that was great was the Loki series. - If you like the Loki series, you might like "Deadpool", because it's very connected to Loki series. - It was really good. Right, right, right, the TVA is in it, yeah. - And they spent a lot of time in the wasteland. - Oh, okay. Yeah. - They're like, there's that big thing that eats people. - Oh, okay. That's like two episodes in Loki. - It's the whole goddamn movie of-- - Okay. - But it's, Loki's a great show. I recommend it to everybody, you know. If you like Marvel certainly, even if you don't like Marvel, like you can kind of jump in and jump out. Like if you have a, like, a small idea of who Loki is, it really doesn't matter what his history in the Marvel canon is for this show. It's very good, I liked it. Yeah, I just think it's a massive-- - There have been bright spots. I liked "Guardians 3". I like it, but the "Guardians 2". - Okay. - People seem to love that for a good movie. I liked "Guardians 3". I didn't like "Black Panther". - I didn't criticize. - I didn't see Marvel's. I started to watch Ms. Marvel because I loved that comic. And then I was like, oh, this is nothing like the comic. And I kind of was turned off. - The first episode was so promising. Everyone was like-- - Yes, I think it got so bad, so quick. - Yes, everyone was like, oh my God. It's like if Marvel was directed by Michelle Gondry and I was like, hell yeah, I'm there. And I was like, this is very interesting. This is cool. - No, didn't you totally drop the ball? - No. - Which thinks she's a cool character. She's fun. She made her hand big. - I love the comic. - Okay, yeah. - The comic was so cool. - Kamala Khan. Or Kamala Khan. She pronounced it Kamala, right? Not Kamala. I'm just a Kamala. - You're doing the opposite of the Republicans. These people-- - No, but I think she pronounced it's her name, Kamala. - Yeah, I know. These people pronounce her name wrong on purpose, which is like, what are you saying that you can't learn a thing? - I know someone who calls her Pamela. - Well, I call her Mamala. - Mamala? - Come down out that coconut tree. - What do you call it? This is not official news, but I saw that my Rudolph is coming back to this. - Oh, I saw it too. - Probably tomorrow. It's only like nine days to the election. So, this is the way it should be, by the way. Like, this is the way they do it in other countries. Like, why is it years? It should just be fucking a month. - It's still long compared to other countries. 24 months is like, it would be forever in another country. They can bang the shit out in a weekend in the UK. It's nuts. I mean, I know these are much smaller nations that we're talking about, but, and they're chaotic. Those kids, those governments are chaotic, but our government's been pretty chaotic. - But we do it because there's a whole media complex based around it, like sports. - Right. - It's like a sports season that comes every four years instead of every year. That's all it is. - Anyway, Robert Downey Jr. I like him as a man. - I think he, I think, I do think, I mean, just like, objectively, could he be a good doom, sure? - I don't. I actually don't. - Although, I don't really want to see dooms face. - Here's the thing about Robert Downey Jr. I think he's a talented actor. I like him, but I think he kind of does one thing. Even when he's Charlie Chaplin, even when he's playing like, a journalist investigating the zodiac, even when he's Iron Man. Like, he is always a, you know, obviously intelligent, fast talking, charming person. And I don't think of that as-- - I'm a different Oppenheimer. - Okay, I haven't seen that. - But I get what you're saying. And also, let's face it, he's not, he's not pulling out his A-game from Marvel movies. It's more like I'm coming here and having a good time showing my dick around. (laughs) - I just don't see him changing it up for doom. And we'd be like, "Oh, okay, it's Iron Man. "He's just in wearing a different outfit." - Right. - Yeah, it's just, the casting of it is, whether it's good or bad, it could be read more as a negative portent for what's going on over there at Marvel and what they are thinking. Because it feels like this is a decision to try to get juice flowing again. - Oh, like a stunt, this is stunt casting? - Yeah, I mean, absolutely for fucking sure it's stunt casting. But if this is what they're, I mean, people are going back to the well, like if this is what they're doing, it's a real sign that things are done over there. - Yeah. - Things are absolutely done. And it's funny, and it's sad because it's been, what, four years since Endgame, they're gonna outshine, they're going, they did something really amazing and they're going, if they keep going, there's gonna be more bad than good and they're gonna lose all the good will that they once had. - Yeah, I agree. They pulled off something. That was really incredible. - Yeah. - Oh. I don't know. - You know, but going back to like-- - They don't know when to quit. - Going back to the "Miss Marvel" comic, like, I remember that comic was less connected than this TV show was. Like, the thing about Marvel comics was, yes, they were in a connected world and sometimes they'd cross over it. But like, that wasn't every single story. Like, people had their own little worlds, their own little lives. Like, they, like, the movies and shows are more connected than the comics ever were, which makes it all feel so small. - Yeah. Or they'll adjust things from the comics to make it connect to the world where you're like, "What, that's not." - Right, they changed "Miss Marvel" to match the powers that Captain Marvel has in the movies. - Mm. - She has, 'cause in the comics, she has the thing where she can like grow or shrink and induce things with her body. - Yeah. - Whereas in the show, she has, like, the powers based on the crystal over the fuck. And she kinda does the same things with those, but it's not really her powers, which is, like, cool to see her make, like, a giant hand. - Yeah, she can make, yeah, she can make, like, the crystal protect the hand. - Right, right, right, right, yeah. All right, let's talk about "Trailer's Daddy." - Oh. - Okay. - Let's first. - Oh, let's talk about the bad one first. - Okay, which one? - What do you think is the bad one? - I mean, I think you probably mean "Hellboy." - Yes, I do mean "Hellboy." - Okay. - Hellboy. - Is it-- - The bent neck, lady. - The bent neck lady? - Yes, that's immediately what I thought. The Crooked Man. - The Crooked Man. - Is it a shutter original? Is that what you asked? - Is it a shutter movie? - No, but I'm sure it'll be streaming on "Shutter" before it ends its first screaming. - I see it on "Shutter" while you go home. - I'm like, oh boy, okay. I like it's like, from the original creator, Mike McNold, it's like not from Guillermo del Toro, not produced by Guillermo del Toro. - We got not gonna do it, yeah. We got not gonna do anything. - We got no names, we got nobody. We got a character. - I, of course, liked the Guillermo del Toro ones. I didn't hate the last one. - I didn't see the David Harbour one. - It was all right. - I feel like it came and went. - For sure, it was a big old-- - Did it come in release? - Yes, I would go home. - Okay, okay, okay. - But even if it wasn't, I promise it would have failed, but it wasn't terrible. This looks dull, but no one it is. - It doesn't look dull. - And there's two trailers on our docket today that are doing similar things, which is they're trying to go from adventure to horror. And I feel like it's hard to go back. Like, in the case of Alien, they're going back and we'll talk about that in a minute. But in this, they're like, it seems very clear like they're trying to make this a horror movie. And it's like, but I already've seen him be jokey and fun. Like, I can't, you're not gonna scare me. It just seems dull and barren. Doesn't the whole thing feel like-- - It feels like they don't have a lot of money. - They spent all the money on the makeup. - Yes, and they didn't have a lot of filming locations. - Yes. - They just had like a cabin, like a one house and a little patch of woods, yes. - It does, it looks dull. - It feels like they don't have much to work with. - It looks-- - So, we'll see. - Doll is dead. - You know, the comics were, I don't know if you've read them, but, okay, so the comics-- - I can't read. - You could look at the pictures. The comics do really skew with like a real horror bent. So in that respect, I am happy to see him in that world. However, the comics also, he's always like, a luminous against this background of like gloom and joy, right? And the Guillermo del Toro movies are much more brightly colored. - Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's a lot going on visually in them. Very interesting visually. And this actually does look more like the comic where it's like very dark backgrounds and like he's very bright. But when you're coming out of all of that, all that money, right, that he spends on everything and going to this, if it started here and went the other way. - Sure, yes, yes. - That would make more sense to me. - But what Guillermo del Toro did works, like the changes he made connected with people. - Yeah. - And that's why I think the average person, if they care about Hellboy at all, probably cares because of the Guillermo del Toro movies. - I read the comics after seeing that movie. - Right. - And was actually more surprised by how into the horror element it was, because I didn't really see it on the screen, even though Guillermo del Toro is like synonymous with horror. He didn't really go super-- - Well he's always people like Tim Burton, where it's like, he's not made a lot of horror, people, like he's synonymous with it, but it's like-- - Yeah, he haven't really made a ton of horror movies. - No, I think his mainstream movies have horror elements. - Sure, yeah, yeah. - I think everything he touches is something like a little horrible, but yeah, I see that, I see that definitely. - I think also that they have to do something different with the Hellboy design. Like, I think you had the prosthetic, the very big prosthetic design that what's his name had in the Guillermo del Toro movies. - Ron Perlman. - Yeah, Ron Perlman. And then they kind of did the exact same thing with David Harbor. - Yeah. - And now it looks like they're doing the exact same thing again, like I feel like you've either got to go minimal, like bring it down a lot, and just haven't had red skin or whatever, or go the other way, 'cause I know from the little I've seen from the comics, he's like just a big ol' fuckin' square, right? - Yeah. - Like, make him be like nine feet tall. - It's very black. - Make him be animated, like go the other way. It feels like they haven't done anything new with the makeup. Especially 'cause this is the second reboot attempt. - Yeah. - Like, do something different with the makeup. You've hired somebody different. David Harbor is out. - Yeah. - So fuckin'-- - I would say this is a no-name, but he has been in stuff. - He's handsomely. - He's very handsome, yeah. - It's a smaller actor. It just seems like they don't have money, and I feel bad, 'cause I do like this character. And it's tough to make a movie like this that requires so much special effects and makeup without that much money. - Did I blink and imagine something? Is this movie produced by a production company called Catch Up? - Yes. - Okay. - Yes, because they had that, I think it was that scene with the snake and the woman floating, and then it was like, catch up productions, I was like, oh! I don't need catch up throwing at my face. - What is happening? - What is happening? - A woman having her body broke in my snake. - Who just made this motion picture? - Oh, this is like the woman in bed, like it's swallowing a raccoon. I was like, guys, I don't need any catch up with this. - You know, I'm not, you know I have a complicated relationship with jumpscares. I feel like, if you, I feel like if you want this to be scary, you should feel it with a ton of jumpscares. - Oh yeah, for sure. - Like that's what you'll need, I think. - To get butts in seats. - Right, because I think in a, like he's a hero, so like, he's gonna save our day. Like, we've seen him save the day so many times. I don't have the same fear. - As like a normal horror movie. - As I would if I were identifying with a character that isn't a hero. You know what I mean? But it's like, I know he's fine. I know I'm gonna be fine in his hands. You know what I mean? When I identify with him, I'm not gonna be scared. - Yeah. - Think about like the evil dead trilogy, right? - The more it gets comedic, the more heroic Ash gets. And the more Ash becomes basically just a superhero. - Yeah. - And you're not really scared that much anymore. - Right. - Same things. - Yeah. I'd say the same thing is kind of true for one of the other trailers we're looking at, which is alien Romulus. - Okay. - Which I'm excited for. - Okay. - Who's directing, any names attached to it? - It's directed by the person who did the evil dead remake. Not the one that just came out. - Or not the one in the apartment building. - Yeah, not evil but rise, evil dead from a 10 years ago, I remember. - Okay, okay. - Or a while ago now. Produced by Ridley Scott. - It is produced by Ridley Scott. - It's a direct sequel to the original movie. - It's a direct sequel to the first? - Yes, but it doesn't erase the others because if you recall, aliens takes place like 200 years after alien 'cause Ridley goes into a hypersleep. It doesn't walk on up for like centuries. So this is like like right after part one, which is interesting way to do that. - What is the Romulus? Is that the first ship? - I know it's the name of the ship. - 'Cause the Nostromo is the ship that Ripley is on. - Yes. - But then in the beginning of the movie, they go to investigate like a beacon, right? - Yeah. - That's going, and is that the Romulus? - No, I don't know if Romulus is in it. - And not in it. - Okay, okay, okay. - It seems like this is like a thing remake where it was like the story of the other station, you know? - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. - It seems like what they're doing with this is like they're like pulling off a heist. - Right, they're trying to like strip a ship for part. - And then they're gonna walk in and ship. - That same ship? - Oh, I don't know. - Maybe. - Maybe. - Right then they're gonna sell them because these are expensive ship parts. - There's a triggering moment in it where you see a face hugger like force itself into someone's mouth. Like you know from the original movie, like that's how it works. Like it fucks your face. - But like this is a close up on the mouth. - You see him and it's like trying to get in his mouth. - And he's like moving, moving, moving, trying to get in. - Yeah, it's like it's unsettling. - You also see it like it's pulled out from now which is gross. - I like that the, it seems like a real face hugger emphasis on this and they're like jumping like spiders. - Yes, very active face huggers. Like jumping all over the place. - And I know it's very common now for trailer editors to use interesting songs. They used in this trailer Lucky Star sung by Gene Kelly in Singing in the Rain. You are my Lucky Star. - Oh, wow. - And it's like echoing through it and it's like what? But also I'm like, I'm in, I'm in, I like this series a lot. I haven't seen, the only one I haven't seen is Covenant, the very last one. - The last one. - But I liked Prometheus. - I like Prometheus. - And Covenant was like a sequel to Prometheus but was a little bit more alien-y and now we're back to way more alien-y. I like that we have a female protagonist who looks plucky. That's what you need. - She looks plucky. She's gonna shoot some aliens. - Yeah. - We're in the face. - And yeah, it looks super violent. - Yeah, it does. That like we know what's coming in that scene where that pilot, I guess, has the light. - Yes. - He's trying to light behind, yeah. - So okay, so this is what I'm saying, right? Like the first alien is- - But we're seeing a lot of this movie in this trailer. - Yes, we are. - Like that's like a scene. - Yeah, for sure. - Yeah. - We, the first alien is like a haunted house in space, right? And- - Oh, it's so good. - The alien's barely in it, like, and you don't even look at it for a while. Like it's kind of just like all light reflecting off of it. - You have a hard time like getting a depth perception of like where it is in contrast to the background behind it. And you don't, you know, you don't know it's weird. - It's a black on black. - Yeah, you don't know it's weird justation rituals. - Right. - You don't know like this towards that and then that jumps out of your chest. Like you learn all that along the way. - Yes. - And then two comes out and two is like this adventure action movie. So then can you go back? - I totally can. - Can you put the- - The David's been sitting on one. - The genie back in the bottle. - The David's joint is weird. - Yeah, but I agree. Like the first one is pure space horror. - Yeah, and it feels like this is trying to be horror again, but I don't, again, like- - It feels horrible. - I don't know if I can feel that way again. - There's horror elements to Prometheus, I feel. - I feel like I know so much about the alien. You know what I mean? Like I know so much about the Xenomorph. I've seen it in many comics. I've seen, I've played video games where I've shot thousands of them with big guns. How am I gonna be scared of like one? - I know. - You know, I've got action figures of it. Like, like, like Hellboy, it's like once something becomes so known, like how can you be scared of it? I don't know. Maybe this is just a personal accident. Every couple of years they'll do a Doctor Who episode with like Cyberman or Daleks, and the Doctor would be like, "We really want to go back to the original and like make it the Daleks scary." And it's like- - And the Hulk's aren't scary. - I don't know if that's possible. - They're not scary. - I guess they were in the '60s. - Nah. - I think of those little buttons all over them. Those are the candy buttons. - Well, all right. Well, Cyberman were more scary. - Cyberman I could see being scary. They're like terminators. - Right, but you can't. I don't know if you go back. I don't know. - Well- - This looks fun though. - Like scary fun. - It looks like it's a hard R, which is great. - I love a hard R. - They say the F. - Fuck. - Many times in the trailer. - That's what you need. (laughs) - I, yeah, I'm excited about it. Would you like some of it to Alamo? - Oh God. What did we say? We saw the new Despicable Me. - They have the- - You don't like they have like the, I don't know what you'd call it, like they have the silk press like big thing in the lobby. It's like lit up from behind. - Yeah, yeah. - And they change it. - Yeah. - It's a alien now. - Whoa. - For Romulus. - Okay. - It's what I'm hyped about. I'm excited to see this. Are you gonna get the tumbler, the glass tumbler? - Probably. - Probably. What's so funny to me, I was thinking about just now, I was like, remember we were talking about Scoob? And now like they were doing aliens as the monster? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I was saying like, I think they do that because it's like less scary than any other type of monster like for a kids movie, but then I'm thinking like, what's some of the scariest horror movies? Like the thing and alien are alien movies. So in the real realm of horror, aliens are actually terrifying and quite scary. - Although those are two where you could argue like, they're working with our like xenophobia and racism. Or like the fear of communism or whatever. You know, whatever it is, you're like, other. - The other. - Yeah. - But yeah, of course the aliens can't be scary too, right? I mean. - Yeah, yeah. So then the last trail is Rick and Morty, the anime. - Is this like a series? - This is real. It's like a couple years ago. - It's a movie or. - It's a series. I think it's only like six episodes. - Oh, so like a limited series? - Yeah, a couple of years ago, they did like a few shorts like this and people really into it. And then this series is, let me look it up again. It's like an actual series. Now I'm a Rick and Morty fan, although I did not see the very last season, the first season without Justin Royland. - I haven't seen that. - 'Cause I'm on his side. No, I'm not. I just didn't catch it. - Weird team Royland all the way. That's why we haven't won. No, I'm kidding. - I haven't watched it. - Although I do think he was exonerated. I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't care. - I don't know. Listen, he seems like an ass wort, even if he is not a criminal. Even if he's not legally criminal, he seems like an unpleasant person. - Yeah, he seems shitty. So, oh, it's 10 episodes. - Oh, okay. That's like the whole season. - Yeah, yeah, it really is. Directed by Takeshi Shano, who did-- - No, there's a Japanese language for-- - Yes, right, 'cause on the trailer that says like the English language version. - Yeah. I think this is cool. I think what's cool about this is not just that it's anime looking, is that I think, you know, Justin Royland's out, and I love Dan Harmon, actually, a lot, but I think he gets in his own way, and I think the longer he deals with things, the more his own self-loathing, like gets into the project, and he starts to loathe the project, and the fans, it becomes a weird mess. And I feel like this is cool to take Rick and Morty and that whole world out of their hands, and let another creator just do a series with it. I mean, it's really, I can't think of another situation like this, where it's like, it exists and it's like, no, how about a different version like right now? - Yeah, well, it's not like several years after that it ended. - Yeah, it's like, it's gonna be like, and it seems that they have their own voices to, even the English ones, it seems like, they sound, they don't sound like our-- - I wasn't sure if it was because Justin Royland had laughed and they had different voices, or if it was just like a new set for this series. - I think it's a new set for this series. - Okay, okay. - And I don't know, like, I don't know what to expect, it doesn't look that funny, which I'm fine with. - Yeah, if it's just gonna be like its own thing. - The Rick and Morty comics are not really funny. They're more sci-fi-ish, and if this is just like weird sci-fi, like-- - I like that. - I'm for it, I think it's a very cool idea. I'm for expanding it, you know? Like, the Rick and Morty got to a place where it was so self-referential that it was like Deadpool, like it just, it's just like terminally cool, like too cool, like too, you know, up its own ass, and it's like, you know-- - Yeah. - Like, I think there were some great episodes as it goes on, but like, I feel like the first season is just so pure and simple, and every episode's really great. And then it just got so fucking up its own ass. And then like, out of anger, or whatever, Dan Harmon was like, I'm sick of people waiting for us to reveal things, so I'm just gonna reveal everything at once. So like, it builds and builds and builds, and then like, in like one episode in like this, not last season, one before, like they just tell you the whole backstory of everything, and it's like, was that a spite move? Like, what is, what goes on in your life, Dan Harmon? - I hope he is a therapist. - I hope so. - I think like, we're his therapist. - You know that he had one of those real sex dolls, and it was such a important part of his life that an ex-girlfriend of his wrote a show that was, I think it was on Apple or whatever, about a guy who has like a sex doll that like is his girlfriend. It's like, it came out a few years ago, and it was written by one of his ex-girlfriends. Yeah, so, but he, they're not involved in this, which is great. - Great. - Also, you know what else? - I think he's brilliant, but I also think he's tortured. - Yes, no, I like him. I sound like I'm really, you don't like him. I like him, it's just, I don't think I'd ever want to spend any amount of time with him. - No, agreed, agreed. There's a lot of people like that. - Yeah, yeah. Also coming to Adult Swim is the new Genji Ito show with the spirals. - Whoa, it's actually coming out. - Yes, it's actually happened. - Whoa, that's been in like production health for a long time. - Yes, it's actually happening. - Adult Swim, I think is, I like Adult Swim right now. I like the adventures, my adventures with Superman. I like that it seems like, you know, in the early 2000s, like they were super into like, a certain kind of like, cutting edge, college humor kind of thing. - Yes, yeah. - And now it seems like they're back to like, we could just do shit, like, you know, Superman is like in no way edgy. - Yeah, it doesn't all have to be the same brand. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. - I felt like at that point, everything was trying to evoke that same type of humor. - Yes, exactly. - And just kind of outweird each other. - Yeah, and then like in the 2010s, it became like, we're so into it, we're just like, David Lynch level weird. It's just like too many cooks and like, the Harchie Holler, which is like a horror show, but like, it's a joke that it's a horror show. Like, ha ha, isn't it funny that this is scary? And it's like, what? - Yeah, I just, I don't take psychedelics, so I just, I wasn't there with them. - Yeah, you go. - You know, I'm like, oh, sorry. Wish I could enjoy this. - Yeah, yeah. - Right, we're in the beginning, it was like the boondocks were on, like you had real, real good writing for shows. - Yeah, and they're in a good place now. - That's cool. - All right, let's take a break. We'll come back with a chill session. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Welcome back to PCMC. That's pop culture man children. I'm here. - We usually wait like, at least 45 to 55 minutes to tell the people the name of the show. - They know, I mean, they click on it. - They know it, how they find it. - I didn't say it before. - I think I did at some point. - Maybe they didn't. - Who knows, it's late, I'm tired. I've been getting up early for me. - What's early for you? - No, I'm not playing this game. - I'm playing for you. - No, it's not gonna be-- - No, because you people, I mean people who have children. - Kids, if you have-- - Famously get up early. - You have this, no, but you all have this vibe of, no one else can complain about their non-child life. - No, no, no, no, no. - You're like JD Vance, you're like-- - Exactly, like JD Vance. - You called me a cat lady when I walked in today. - A childless cat lady that's running this country. - I saw a meme that was like, what a 19th century thing to call me. What are you gonna tell me? I'm bad at darning socks as well. (laughing) - You're a spinster. Yeah. - No, no, no. - I'm asking what's early because we've actually like-- - Seven, seven, 20's early. - Seven, seven, it's pretty early. Seven, like if our kids get up at seven, we're like, no, no, please, no. Like the other day they got up at like quarter to seven. I'm like, oh, come on, can't we get you to go back this week, it's certainly in the summer, right? Like, 'cause in the, in school year, you know, everybody's up early. You gotta go to school and work. But in the summer, I'm like, I'm trying and sometimes I'm getting them to eight, which is so nice, it's so nice. Other people have kids that just don't-- - Can't you let us stay up later and that'll happen? - It doesn't really work. Sometimes it does, other times it doesn't matter. They're just up. They're not like us, they're not bill like us. - They aren't. - They wanna be awake. The sun's out, they're out. They wanna be up. They wanna be doing things. - I don't wanna be awake. - Me neither. - I genuinely do not want to be dead, but I don't wanna be awake. - I agree, I agree completely. - If you could be like, all expenses paid, don't worry about your bills, we will put you into medically-induced coma, (laughing) where you will-- - Every other year, I would love that. - Your sleep debt is gonna wipe it out. It's like winning the lotto and paying off your student loans. Your sleep debt is gone, you're gonna wake up, first of all, you're gonna be thin as a rail when you wake up. (laughing) All right, you're gonna have a beautiful beard, you're gonna wake up feeling great. I'll be like-- - Yeah, a million bucks. - Sign me the fuck up. - I would love that, I would love that. - Please. - That's the, I think-- - But then my luck, I'd wake up in 300 years. - You'd be like, they left me and it would be long. - It would be beyond the a killer, right? - It would be. (laughing) The world is all spider monsters. - No, all sexy, sexy, spider monsters. (laughing) - Oh man, I always thought hyper sleep was so much fun, right? Like when you'd see it in sci-fi, like yes, that's where I wanna be. - Well, speaking of alien, alien, the beginning of the original alien makes, it makes such a meal out of like them sleeping and then they're waking up and then they're eating and then like they're moving their bodies. And it's so like, I don't know, they really meditate on the idea of it. - So much beautiful idea of building in that, yeah. - Yeah. - I like it. - Yeah, so yeah, I'd love to do it. (laughing) This is the Cho Sestris, this is the Shashoori Cho. Let me just talk about what we're chilling with. - What are you chilling with? - I don't know, universal. On the brain, we just got back and the kids have not let go. They're just watching YouTube videos. - Is you? - POV, YouTube videos of all the rides to experience it again. - Well, can we talk about it now or is it your obsession? - Oh gosh, it might, I mean, I guess it's my, I mean, it's really like all we've been thinking about and talking about. (laughing) So maybe that. What have I been chilling with? - The acolyte, we watched the acolyte. - Yes, okay, this is good. We haven't talked about it on the show yet. You and I have differing opinions on it. - We enjoyed it, we really liked it. - I like the less episode a lot. - The less episode was great. - It really secured for me the feeling that this would have been an awesome motion picture. Why was it stretched into this thing? - I agree at times it felt like it didn't need to be a series necessarily, but I did like the story. I was never like, I hate this episode. Like I wish, like, there's a series where, like, whole episodes, I'm like, we didn't need this episode. - Oh, you didn't feel that? - No, I didn't, I didn't. Not about the acolyte, I liked it. I agree with your point that it felt like a YA Star Wars story, which I liked about it. I mean, I know that was cool. - You know that new one, Skeleton Crew, is like legitimately supposed to be YA. - Really? - It's like, young kid, it's like, I'm interested in it. - Well, they've already done like the little kids market. They have like little kids, Disney Plus show that the boys do not wanna watch. - I did have episodes that I didn't like and I did, I had a real problem with a lot of the writing and the dialogue and the pacing and plotting and stuff. But it was a good story. The last episode had a couple of things that really made me go like, this is great. The scene with a senator is explaining to Venestra like why he doesn't trust a Jedi. And he's like, you're not, I forget what exactly it says, but he says basically like, you're not a religion, you're not monks, you're political creatures that get yourself involved and things. I was like, yes, like this is the vibe. This is like, it's what I love about last Jedi. Like I love fucking criticizing the Jedi. And I like, he's like, I don't trust you. And he has every right to not trust him 'cause they're liars. - They're liars. - And everybody in the show is skipping, you know? - That's what I liked about it, how procedural it was. How like, long order SVU it was, like coming into things and then like discovering things and then being like, now we're gonna cover that up. - Yeah. - Okay, how corrupt they actually are. - Yeah. - While, you know, moralizing everything for everybody else and being like, we're not like to send it, they're corrupt, we're not corrupt. - At first, I didn't like that they didn't have Yoda because they sort of, they wrote it off and they're sort of like, let's not tell Yoda. But as the show went on, it made sense to me that Yoda wasn't there because he is the boss. - Right. - And they're lying about things and they're hiding shit that he probably would hope that he would be like, "No, we can't do that." I guess we'll spoiler alert for the act like if you haven't seen it. When, what's the name of the main Jedi, the one from-- - Soul? - Yeah, Soul, when Soul died, that was intense. I was both sad and like-- - I feel like he deserved it, but I was also sad 'cause I liked him as a character. And I thought he was a good actor. - He absolutely deserved it. - Yeah. And the other moment that really thrilled me was, at the end, like the very end, you've got the two twins and what's his name? - Kameer. - Yeah. - I say Kameer. - Yeah, I think they call him-- - Kameer. - Or like the, they call him a name. Like the stranger. - The stranger, yeah. - They're talking and they're all basically Sith and they're a Jedi coming after them. And you as an audience are ever like, "Oh, I hope those." - I hope they get away. - "I hope those Jedi don't get these Sith." Like you're on the Sith side. - Yeah, it really humanizes the Sith because they're usually monsters. - Right, and it's like dark-eyed, glassy-eyed monsters that come out of a cave which we saw in the last episode. - That to me was, I felt pandering. 'Cause that's Darth Plagueis the Wise, the one who was Palpatine's a mentor. - Yes. - So-- - And a lot of the fans were like, like they were dying to see it. - So Leslie Helblin said that she put that in specifically to make the end bittersweet because she said otherwise you can read it as a happy sort of ending for them. Like they're like holding hands, like looking off into the sunset. She's like, I wanted people to think like, "Oh, are they married?" And then, but when you realize like, what is the Sith power dynamic, there can only be two and now we have three, what's gonna happen, how is this gonna end for them? It's not gonna end well. And we know Darth Plagueis keeps going. So like, which one of them is gonna go? - Right. And Darth Plagueis eventually has Palpatine as his, you know, what can I think of the word? - Acolyte. - Aprentis? - Aprentis, yeah. - Aprentis. So that would mean everybody in the show dies. But, yeah, somebody already cut it into a movie. To me, I think it would have been an awesome movie. I do feel like it just spun its wheels a lot in the middle. - There was a lot of criticism about like, oh, they advertise that Carrie Ann Moss is in this show and then they killed her off in first episode. - That doesn't bother me. - Not at all because she's so much in the flashbacks. It's a very flashback-heavy show. - Also, I never, I never, a surprise is a part of dramaturgy. Like, I never am like, oh, you lied to me. - Yeah. - Like Drew Barrymore was in the poster for Scream. - Yeah, exactly. Like, you lied to me, like, shut the fuck up. So you think, is Carrie Ann Moss that big, a fucking poll that they're like, oh my God. We're gonna get the Moss heads in here. Like, it's not like they're like- - It was, it was nice to see her back in action. Even though we recently saw her in the most recent Matrix, it was like, oh shit, Trinity's jumping off the wall. - But it's not like they were like, this Star Wars show stars, Tom Cruise. And you're like, oh, this is gonna be interesting. But then he's not in it. - He's not, yeah. - It's fucking here, here, here, come on. - I really like the main girl. - A man with Sandberg. - Yeah, she's great. - I thought she was great. - Two characters. - Two characters. - I thought she was making a lot of subtle choices to differentiate them. Like, I always knew who it was, even when they did the old Switcharoo. - Yeah. - I thought that was good. - No, why was they good? - When they do them as children, that they catch two girls that don't look like each other. I don't know, I don't know what that choice was. - Maybe, you know how sometimes they cast real twins, but they're not identical, they're fraternal. I knew fraternal twins who looked almost identical. I think it's one of those situations. - These two did not look alike. - They looked like cousins, maybe. - They did look like cousins more than sisters. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah. And they also had like the world's most beautiful woman as their mother. - Yes. - Kind of like, I'm like, the other one was not contributing good DNA to this situation. (laughing) I was just very beautiful when she gets older, right? A man with Sandberg, he's a very pretty girl. But like, these kids, I'm like, oh boy, you did her dirty. So it doesn't look like any of this will be resolved, because it doesn't look like they're gonna do more of this. At least that's what the creator says. She says it doesn't look good. - That's sad. - 'Cause they're saying nothing to her, which usually means-- - Oh, that's like post all those interviews I sent you. Oh, that stinks. - Yeah. - She says she has more story there. Like, she wants-- - There's clearly more story there. But Will Disney do, I don't know. - Right, 'cause now it's like this other, I don't know. - Well, again, and again, it's like, I have just critical problems with it, but then there are people that don't like it, 'cause there's blacks in it and ladies in it. - Oh my god. - And it's just like, I don't wanna be-- - Gay witches. - I don't wanna be with those people. - I want it, I need gay witch, Star Wars. - Yeah, I want all gay witches. - The other mother is still alive. - Yeah, give me all gay witches. - I want all gay witches all the time. - Let me ask you a question. And I brought this up to you when you called me racist. (laughing) Isn't it a little stupid to have a Wookiee Jedi? - No. - Now listen. - Now listen. - Now listen. - Now listen. (laughing) Listen. (laughing) - I told you before. - Now look, Chewbacca was very good at fixing a ship. He obviously had a great mechanical mind. We saw him fixing a ship. We saw him as a co-pilot. - Did you let him go up drive? - No, a Wookiee could drive. - Operate a spacecraft. - But then he could also be like, I don't know, a monk, I don't know. It feels like-- - What? - Star Wars does this thing. - What? - You know, there's a Star Wars book. It's a Han Solo Lando book called, like, Last Shot. And in it, there's a hacker. - Okay. - A hacker, and the hacker. No, it's an Ewok hacker. - No. - No, these are peasants. I'm sorry. They're a good 100 years away from the hacker. - I don't see the Wookiees in that same light as an Ewok, because we are introduced to the Wookiees as like a species that can operate a space vehicle, right? Like we're introduced to the Ewoks as like, they live in tree villages. Like we've only seen Kashyyyk like years and years after we were introduced to Wookiees. I mean, life day, I guess they were on Kashyyyk, but like they had a house. It looked like the set of step-by-step, like that's where they lived. - But at the outside look like Kashyyyk. - Okay, okay. - They look like the height kind of slope. - But they're very civilized. Like they have, you know, family units and they can, I keep back to this thing of like, if nothing else, they can drive. We would not let outside of Russia. We would not let a bear drive. But you would let a Wookiee drive. - In Russia, bears drive all the time. - All the time, you get a taxi outside of the same Petersburg airport. That's driven by a bear. Legally, they have to. So, because all everybody else is in jail. So that, yeah. - Well, this is where the-- - I think of Wookiee-- - The Wookiees are gonna cancel me. This is it. - I agree that Ewoks maybe need a little bit more time. Right? - So that's, I guess, I bring that up because I see it is similar in a way. - Okay, okay, I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree. I think Wookiee can easily be a jedi. - Okay. - And how scary that is because of Wookiee on his own. - They also did nothing with him. - I know. I think that was-- - Absolutely nothing with him. - What a waste. - Absolutely nothing. - What a waste of a tantalizing possibility. - The only time we see him do anything, he's actually possessed. - Yeah. By gay witches. - By gay witches. - So Wookiee jedi possessed by gay witches. This girl has everything. But I did like that last episode. And I liked, like I said, it would be great movie. I liked, like there was at least one thing in every episode. I was like, "Oh, that's interesting." But then it spun its wheels. But there was a lot of like, I'm going to tell you the truth about what happened that day. But hold on, I got to take this call. - Yeah. - And then a whole episode goes by. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the man Basil running around the ship and the bowels of the ship. - What was he doing? - I don't know what he was doing at any time. I felt like someone wound him up with like a key in the back. Just let him go and he was just going, the whole series. - How would you feel if in the next series, Basil was a jedi? You'd be cool with that? You'd be like, "That makes sense to me." - He wasn't driving. He was smelling. If we only ever saw Wookiee smile. - He's not the co-pilot. - He's the co-pilot. - They said he's like a dog. He's wearing clothes, but he's literally like a dog. They made him smell something that belonged to him. - You're talking about Chewbacca is the co-pilot. - Oh yeah. - He's the one who I'm doing the heavy lifting. - If I got on my next spirit plate and saw a dog as the co-pilot, which I very well might know is with spirit. - Spirit, yeah. - I would not be comfortable, but if I saw Wookiee, I'd be like, "Okay, well, they know how to fly." I mean, this one probably does, I assume. - Right. - I mean, Wookiees are just as capable of letting us. - Let me ask you a real question. He's a real question. You're in a horrible accident. And the EMTs come and they take you to the hospital and your doctor walks in and your doctor's a Wookiee. - Okay. Is it a surgeon? - Yes. - It's a surgeon. How do you feel? - He must be very good because-- - There's no party that's like-- - There's no instruments, sir. - Can I? - I'd love a second opinion. He has to be the best damn surgeon I ever lived. I was like, "Oh, okay, I'll get you another opinion." And then like a gungen surgeon comes in and you're like, "Oh, you know what? "Can I have the Wookiee?" - Actually, I will take the Wookiee. - Yeah, the Wookiee, please. Thank you. - Oh, God. Which of these like Star Wars species which you prefer as your surgeon? - Yeah. - I don't want any of them 'cause their hands are all so big. - They all have big hands. - Really big hands. - The Rhodians, which is what Grito is, they're pretty smart. I take a Rhodian. - You take a Rhodian? - It's like a Rhodian. - What do their hands look like? If they have three fingers, I don't want it. - They have like, yeah, they have like the round like froggy things at the end. - No. - Well, gosh darn it. Well, I still love Star Wars. I'm looking forward to-- Oh, you know, actually, let me, I didn't say this. I've read a bunch of the High Republic novels and I think that was another thing that got me which is like, I was excited 'cause they were like, this is a High Republic show. It's the first like, non-comic non novel High Republic thing. And it's at the very, very tail end of the High Republic and it's, the point of the High Republic is like the Jedi are actually good and not into politics and that's not at all what the show is. - Yeah, now it's not. - It felt like the show could have easily just been in the prequel era. And I wonder why not have done that. Like, I read a cool book about-- - I guess they wanted people to be like, this has nothing to do with the Skywalker's don't even worry about it. It's gonna be its own thing. - Like, Venestra, I read a book where she's the protagonist and she's like a Padawan and she's cool. She's got that lightsaber whip. And like, the character that I see in "Acalid" is nothing like that character. Besides the name and bold, the green head. And it's like, so I wanted to with that baggage of wanting to, and also like, there's cool like ships and stuff from the High Republic. There's no Sith, there's other villains that are like, I was like, oh cool, we're gonna get other villains. Like, the villain, the main villains in the High Republic are like a conglomerate or a cartel of pirates called the Nile. And they're like kind of mad maxi looking and they all wear masks and shit. And like, they're very violent and crazy. Like, I was like, cool, like, we'll do something different. And then I was like, oh, I'm doing the fucking-- - Well, they mention it, won't they? - And I think you were explaining this to me once about the High Republic novels, about like a horrible accident that occurred. - Yes, there's one reference to it. - They mentioned it, yeah. - That's what caused the, the virgins that the twins came from. - Yeah. - Right. - Like this planet is near where that happened. - Right. - And that's why we're-- - Well, what happened was it was a, it was a, it was a ship, it was like a cruise that hit something in hyperspace. Like, hyperspace is like these little lanes, right? So because it exploded like all over the galaxy, like things were just shooting out, coming out different weird crazy places and causing all sorts of damage and stuff. - Yeah. - And also like, the big thing the High Republic is they have the Jedi build this like huge space station that's sort of like the opposite of the Death Star that's supposed to be like a beacon of hope to the galaxy. And that's not shown in this. That's not seen, they're on Coruscant. - Coruscant, yeah. But it's cool to see that Coruscant is not as built up. Like not even close. - Yes, yes. - I think the show introduced a lot of interesting ideas. I enjoyed it, but, you know, I see the criticisms, but I just, I really enjoyed it. And this is after like having given up on the Star Wars series in general, and being like, I don't want to want any more. - What point did you give up? - After Obi-Wan. I did not like Obi-Wan. - I found Obi-Wan enjoyable. It just, it bends the can and so much it breaks it. It makes no sense in the canon, but I enjoyed it. - There was a lot of stupid writing in it. And I don't even mean bad dialogue. I mean like, stupid writing. - Yes, I agree. I agree. To me, Obi-Wan is in the wind column, but Book of Boba Fett, besides having like some interesting ideas and cool moments was mostly a dud. - Yeah. I didn't watch this so much. - Ahsoka was so mind-numbingly boring. - I don't care about the character really. - Well, even if he did, you wouldn't like her because everything that was interesting about her is gone because now she's just Jedi, and she's just like, I'm quiet and monotone. And it's like, okay, well that's not what we liked about this character at all. - Ahsoka really sucked. Really bad. - And Andor I think is just one of them. - And Andor is just incredible. It's just like the best things ever. - It's ever happened. I just love it, love it, love it. Can't recommend it enough. - I just can't wait for Andor season two so badly. - I know, and that's gonna be it, right? I think if there's two parts, which you know what, great. Let it be great. - Yeah, let it be done. - Let it be so good. - Yeah. I don't think Mando's coming back. I think they're just doing that movie. - Yeah, yeah. - It's called Mandalorian and Grogu. - Wonderful. Great title on it. No, no. - I love it. - But did he very tied up? - Of course. - Yeah. I can't imagine all the merch it's gonna come out. But he did seem very tied up at the end there. - They're bringing it into the Soka thing. They're like, they're doing... - Oh, okay. - They're doing... - The whole weather is not with us anymore. I'm glad we got a last season out of him. - The big band, I guess, is gonna be Thrawn. - Yeah. - So it's so, that's... - Let me see him in the Soka, right? - Yeah, you see him a lot. - Okay, okay. - Yeah, it was... People liked it 'cause it felt like a spiritual sequel to Rebels. But it had none of the charm of Rebels. Rebels was like vibrant. I would love to see something really different. Like super, super different. Skeleton crew looks interesting. I just saw like half a leaked trailer. So it's cool, it looks like it's kids. It's cool, it looks like, I don't think they're Jedi or anything like that. And I love visions. - Yeah. - Because you can just do different shit. That's just really all I want, is to do different shit. And I think... - I want them to do that with the Harry Potter universe. I would love that. - Before we get into Harry Potter, let me ask you this question about Acolyte that I just thought of. Were you surprised that Quimier was the big band, or did you see it coming miles and miles away? - No, because if you're immediate literate at all, like, or just even just have read a book, like you could see the groundwork they're laying, right? And the moments at which he kind of drops the facade. - What? Oh, well. (upbeat music) - Come and go. - I stopped it, now we're back. So someone, a random person just walked into the house. - Just walked into the house. It's all over. It's Henry's worst nightmare. - Yeah, I guess he was looking for a different house. - Listen, to, to be fair, it's never happened to us, but that has happened on this block. Because it's, you know, it's... We live on a block where the houses were all developed at the same time, and the same developer, and they're semi-attached, a lot of houses look the same. - I, because I live here, I think they look completely different, but someone who maybe hasn't lived here very long, maybe had a couple, coming home, is going into the wrong house. I could see that. - I come over once a month. - He walked in like, he knew it was gonna be open. - Well, listen, like, I don't think they have the same kind of door handle as us. He was just like, why the door's different today? - I always have a moment of which house is it. And I've come here for like 15 years, and I come here pretty like once a month, maybe, over like the last four years, so I get it. - That guy, I think... - Did I think we were dead? Yeah, I thought we were gonna die. - Well, I guess, at least we have like, it's a grizzly man. Like, we have a recording about it. - No, I stopped it. I don't know why I stopped it. - You're like, I mean, I would have been like, turn the volume up on the mic, 'cause we need the evidence, so it's gonna happen. - Yeah, that's what we do. (indistinct chatter) - We're watching the video on the ring. Can I tell you about my ring adventures? - Oh, tell me. - So, Jen has a ring. - I don't know if you heard this, but I was like, that man thought he was gonna be shot. Like, when you came down, he was like, I'm gonna get shot, I'm gonna get shot. - I thought my parents came home and we were in trouble. - Oh, no. - Oh, no, put away the beer. - The real owners of this house came back. Sorry, go on, Jen is a ring, I'm sorry. That was just a wild, my, I don't know. My sociopath, my heart rate didn't even go up. I was like, yep, there comes the stranger to kill me. - This is it. - This is it. - This is it. - Here it is. - I'm sorry, go on. - So, Jen lives with her aunt, and they order pizza from this one place, and this is guy, we say that he flirts with her aunt. He, every time he comes, she opens the door and he goes, hello, my dear, he's like an old Italian man. - I love it. - And he goes to the pizza, and he fucking drags Jen, because sometimes Jen forgets the clothes like the second door, and he's like, I'll close it, I know your niece doesn't know how to close it. So, you know, you can look from your phone, so no matter where we are, we see when he's coming. - Yeah. - So, you know there's like, you could, there's a mic. - Yeah. - So, I've started, every time this man comes, I turn the mic on and go, (buzzer buzzes) and he bakes a face. Like, he's like, and I don't think he knows it's me. So, he just thinks that, he just thinks that, as she's coming to get her pizza, Jen's aunt just rips a juicy fart. (laughing) Every single time. - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - And I'm addicted to it, I can't stop. (laughing) She's like, oh, so he's coming, he's like, oh, okay, let's meet him, let's meet. It's so good, it's so good. (laughing) It's my favorite thing to do in the world. - Oh my god. - Yeah, have you, since you've had the ring, have you had moments, not like that, but moments where you're like, just saw somebody creeping outside and you're like, this probably was all through history, and we didn't know that if they were creepers outside our doors all the time. - Well, not outside the front door, thankfully, but like, we had someone trying the cars. - Ooh. - And they actually got, I mean, my neighbor's car was unlocked, so got in, stole some stuff from their car, and then, you know, I sent her the video, 'cause you can see them trying our car, and then it's wide enough that you can actually see them getting into her car, but you can't see face, or like, who it is, or whatever. But there's that, that was freaky. And then, once I'm a delivery guy, I have like a fake olive tree right outside the front door, and I see the delivery guy like reach over, like, touch one of the olives, he goes, that's awesome. (laughs) - Yeah, that's fun. - Cool, cool man. - Yeah, put on, though, like, some of the pre-recorded things, like for Halloween, we had like the, "Oh, we'll be right there." - That's fun. We started with this last Christmas, so we did the Grinch. - That's nice. - Yeah, which was cool. The kids, like, went crazy. I have a pre-recorded one just always, like, we can't come to the door right now, and sometimes I'm like, we're here, we're here, like, talking over it, like, I'll be right down. - Yeah, the ring is fun. Do what I do, start doing the farts. - Still in farts? - Yeah, the kids love to play with the ring. - The kids love to play with the ring. - Ooh. (laughs) - But the fart, I'm getting more joyous. - That's so good. - But I also, every time a real juvenile, like, every time Jen has to make a phone call, I do fart noises. And it's because she can't hear a fart noise without giggling, so, like, she has no ability to not. Like, literally, if she has to make a phone call, she's like, please, please, I'm gonna go to another room, please promise me. - She's not gonna make a fart noise. - And I'm like, okay, and I do it. - You're like, okay, I promise. Not this time, not this one. - I tell, like, I wouldn't do it if it didn't tickle you, so, you, she can't not laugh. But you know, that's what, that's when you have it. That's a strong relationship, that's what that is right there. - That's nice, that's nice. - We have fun. So what else is going on? I was talking, last time I was with Anthony, I was talking about my book slump, my reading slump. - Oh, okay. - I shoved myself out of that slump. - Oh, did you? - I pushed through. I was like, you know what, I was reading a book that I wasn't loving. I was like, step one, a band and this shit. 'Cause I'm calling this book goodbye. - Okay, okay, what book could you get stuck on? - A Star Wars book. - Oh. - It wasn't necessarily band, it's just like, it wasn't going, it wasn't flowing. And then, I was like, okay, I just need to deliver my Kindle. I have to accept that I can't read books on paper anymore. I just, I just can't. I read, I like to read at night, I'd like to not be cumbersome. So I was just like, I'm just a 100% Kindle man now. And I got, I've read like a bunch of things like quickly. - Okay. - I got like a fun YA. - Okay, that's always good to get you out of a funk. Something short and sweet. - I read one of us is lying. - Oh, okay, I've heard of that. - Yeah, it's like a YA mystery thing. It's like five kids' detention, one of them dies. - Oh my God. - And then they're all, but he was poisoned and they're all suspects. And you keep going through all their points of views. - Poison is a woman's tool. - Not in this case. - Ooh. - So that was really good. Now, then I read a book about-- - Poison. - Like the joy of reading. - Oh. - It was like reasons I read, but it was like a funny book. It was like funny essays. And now I'm reading another-- - Essays are good for that too. - Oh, I love it. I love a fun essay. And now I'm reading another YA kind of book called "Dead Girls Talking." - Oh, okay. - So like another, I don't know, I'm in a YA spooky-- - Love it. Getting ready for spooky season. - I'm so ready. - I August, I think everyone is, right? I mean-- - I believe Spirit Halloween opened this way. - Yeah, they're up, they're out. We got the Halloween costumes planned. So now we have to execute now. - What are they gonna be? - Peter wants to be a ghostbuster. - Absolutely. - The surprise to no one. But we wanna do it nice. You know, we'll help him achieve his dream. - Sure. - And Henry wants to be the ghost of the most. He wants to be Beetlejuice. - Wow, now this is that weird for you because you've spoken so much about your attraction to be Beetlejuice. - Well, I mean, I just imagine that that would be my child with Beetlejuice. - Oh, that would be-- - You're offspring. - Right, exactly. - Right, right. - And you met Beetlejuice at Universal. - Oh, we sure did. And when I came out-- - That was that. - Hey, mama. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. - You're like, uh-oh. - Uh-oh. - Oh, I'm gonna slip out of my chair. - Uh-oh. - Oh, man, yeah. I did. You know, he did not put his arm around me, but I put my arm around him. - You lucky no one asked you to leave. - No, they did. - Ma'am. - We left immediately after that. - Ma'am, stop touching Beetlejuice. - It was no longer comfortable for us to stay. - What's his shtick? Like, what does he say to you? - You know, I actually asked what he said to Henry because he like bent down and said something to Henry. - Yeah. - And I don't know, Henry was just like all smiles. - Yeah, that's Beetlejuice. - That's great. That's awesome. - Yeah, so he's, you know, he's like horny and ghosty. That's his thing, man. That's his thing. - That's a fun walk around character to be. - Oh, yeah. - Just to do that? - Do you know that in the 90s, the Ghostbusters used to drive out of like the studio lot with Beetlejuice in actor one with them? God, the 90s were so great. - You also had like Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers walking around. - Oh, I don't remember. Wait, that was way back. Like, I don't remember that. - I think Power Rangers was a Disney for a little while. Universal, I think, had Ninja Turtles. - I mean, I could see that 'cause Nickelodeon's also been affiliated with Universal. But yeah, I don't remember them, but I do remember. - Barbie was a walk around character for a little while. - Yes, yeah, I don't remember her, but I did know that. Marilyn Monroe is there with like a director like with one of those bull horns. It's like, all right, dawg, get up on this. - I thought she was there with like a half, like sleeping pills on her shirt. - Like dancers with her and they do a number. Betty Boop is there. They have so much street misphere. And I think that's one of their biggest strong points versus say like Disney World with-- - Well, I think their whole thing now is what is Disney not doing or what is Disney doing wrong? Let's do it right. - Yeah. Well, that was something we saw after we came back. It's like, we want to explore Hoth. We want to go to like these places from Star Wars. Okay, like we'll give you a totally different planet that looks nothing like the things you like. - Yeah. - And then it's like Harry Potter. It's like, oh, we want to see Diagon Alley. We want to give, we want to see Hugs Me. It's like great, we'll give you an exact product. - Right, and they're building the Ministry of Magic. They're totally like, well, that's kind of their thing too. Universal was always where you could ride the movies, right? So it's like they're sets. They treat them like sets. - Yes, yes. - So they want you to go to the exact place. - Right, right. No, you're right, yeah. So cool. - It's very immersive. It's very, very cool. This was our first Harry Potter visit to Universal. - Oh! - I mean, we're getting into the obsessions. - Okay. - We're getting into that. - Well, you know what? We've had a good chill sash. Let's-- - We almost died during the chill sash. - It's very on chill. - That was not a joke. - You should have brought him in and asked him what he's been chilling with. Well, you've been chilling with walking to people's houses. It's like walking to strangers' houses. - Was he all right? Like, Bill, I need more information now. - He had a big bag. I feel like he just came from the airport. - He just came from like-- I mean, well, I don't think this is a stand-your-ground state, but even so-- - But this was Texas. We could have murdered and tortured him. - He truly thought, I heard it in his voice. He was so like laughing nervously. Like, oh God, today I die. Today's the day. And we also thought that, so, you know. - Yeah. - That's good. And you sounded pissed. You were like friendly pissed. But you're like, no, I got the door. I got, you could go. I got the door. You're like, don't work. Don't try to close it. I won't get out. It's Friday. He was out. He was having a grand old time with his big backpack. Filled with women. I was like, I'm not getting out of his chair. - Yeah, I saw you not move. - Add it all. You really accepted your face. - I was, I was simply too seated. I will not get out. - All right. Let's take a break. We'll come back. (upbeat music) - Welcome back to BCMC. I'm Michael Giorno. I'm joined today by Janine Gagliardi. It is the obsessions segment. These are the things we're currently obsessed with. And my obsession is truly obsession. - Is that the obsession? - No, I'm just looking at TikToks a little bit. I'm looking at Instagram. No, my obsession is long legs. - Oh, okay, okay. That's right. Because you and Anthony were sort of making these references. I'm like, what? What is? And you're like, this is a long legs chat now. Please get on board. I'm so sorry. - My long legs get on board. - Me and Anthony want to see long legs. - Stop it. All right, you guys saw long legs. Have you seen it again? - No, if I want to. - You want to. - I've not stopped thinking about it though. - Okay. - It's a true obsession. - Yeah. - Ask me if it's great. - Is it? - No. - It's not. - It's good. - Okay. - And there's things in it that are fascinating. - Yeah. - But there's things in it that are stupid. - Okay. - And the centerpiece is Nicholas Cage's performance as long legs, which is simultaneously, genuinely scary and unnerving, but also hilarious. - Yeah. - That's his wheelhouse. - Which is crazy, 'cause you feel like how can those two things exist at the same time? - Yeah. - How can I be laughing and be scared of it? But I feel like if I were literally in the room with long legs, I'd be terrified. I don't know if you've seen long legs. - I've seen, I have seen it, but I'm not the movie. I have seen him in like the prosthetics. - Right. It's all the ideas the character has had a ton of plastic surgery. - Okay. - And it's gone insane. So it's like cheek implants and he's doing this weird voice which he based on his mother. - Weird. - And he's like, oh, there she is. The birthday girl. Oh, sorry. It seems I wore my long legs today. - As he bends down to talk to a child, he just, it's so creepy. And the marketing behind this movie has been just brilliant. They didn't show him in the trailers. They had billboards with like, phone numbers aren't you call and hear him like singing Happy Birthday. - Yeah. - They're still doing it. They, there's hidden images in the movie of like the Devale. - What? - They just put out a TV spot that shows those moments and it's like, look closer. And it's like, oh, you scared me. - No, no. - It, it, I hate those. Haunting of Hill House used to do that all the time. I was like, no, no, no, no. This show scared me enough as it is. - This show does it. The Devale. - The Devale. - With like, like a real like, goat head Devale appears at least nine different places. - Oh. - Sometimes just in the background. Just reflected in something. - Oh. - It is so upsetting. - Oh. - But that's what people, I should say, I should have said, complete spoilers for long legs. That's what people don't like about it, which is it starts off very much a procedural, very much feeling. It feels like Sides and Lambs. - Right, right. - And then it gets super natural. And some people are off board when that happens. But I was like. - Some people are on board when that happens. - Yeah, I was like. - I remember the first season of True Detective was absolutely stunning piece of television and you know, still is, holds up. But I think people wanted it to become supernatural and it never really did. - Yeah. - Become supernatural. - Long legs absolutely. - See, this is what I was wondering about it because for instance, in True Detective season one, it's a cult that worships something, right? But there's no actual magical elements. It's all real people doing real things. - Well, there's, it's a little bit, right? There's moments where it could be like acid flashbacks from Kanahe, you know what I mean? There is a little bit of surrealism. - There's certainly surreal, definitely. But you never get the sense that, 'cause a lot of people were disappointed by that, anything actually super naturalism. - I heard that last season, the Jodie Forza season that just happened was like straight up sci-fi. - I don't know that I would call it sci-fi. - You saw it? You watched it. - At least you watched it, we did. - Was it good? - There was also the merch show, our least season. - I didn't watch that. It was supposed to be great. That season was supposed to be really good. But I didn't watch that season, and I didn't watch the LA season with Vince Vaughn and Colin Farrell. - That was the second one. - That was the big drop off of people, 'cause he's not at all what you wanted. - Right, people stopped watching after that. I intended to watch it, but then I read everything about it, and I was like, I don't wanna watch this. And then with this most recent season, it felt, I'm like, oh my gosh, it's back. She sounds like the lamb thing. She's doing her thing. I need to see it. I love night country. I love that concept of the 24 hour darkness in the super northern areas of the world. I absolutely love that. So I was a great love it. They set up a lot of really interesting ideas, but ultimately, they dropped the bag. It was very Ryan Murphy. - That's a real moment. - We got great, a couple episodes, and then it ultimately goes nowhere. - That's a bomb. - So I didn't like that. And they gave her a second, the show runner. They gave her a second season, so I'm like, I will not be watching that second season. And she wrote a show and couldn't sell it. And then, Hreot was like, well, what if you make it a true detective season? And then she was like, oh, okay, I could do that. I like that show. And then retooled it. And it feels like that, so, you know. - Okay, I get it. I think that you would like long legs. - I probably would. I'm very interested in it. - It's a film that equals more than the sum of its parts. When people criticize it, I completely understand their criticisms. But at the same time, I can't stop thinking about it. And that means something. - Right. - You know, I've had moments. - The Gestalt of long legs. - And I've had moments in the last couple of weeks, since I've soared, it's been like two weeks, where like I get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and like, I'm a little scared of the dark. - Whoa. - Which is a almost 41 year old man. - I love movies. - That watches horror all the time, to be that unnerved. It has a few jump scares, but it's mostly just atmosphere and there's an excruciating scene where the main character played by Micah Monroe from It Follows. She's like sitting at a desk and behind her is an open doorway to a kitchen. And I'll tell you nothing happens, but the way it's framed and the way the scene plays out, you're constantly like, oh my God, something's gonna, something's gonna be there. Please look behind you. It's just like, you're just uncomfortable and then nothing. Nothing happens at least in that moment. Like nothing comes, - Yeah. - Lole X doesn't walk into her kitchen. You know what I mean? Like, but you're like, oh! - I saw something in the mirror. - Everyone in the theater, you feel the buttholes getting tense. - Oh, so tense. I love that, I love that. - It was a great theater experience. - I'm sure it was. - It was really hot in there. - Like it did it when we saw Clover Fields. - No, the theater got hot. - The theater got hot. - I was eating the new, I was eating the new-- - Flaming Hot Cheetos. - No, the Alamo Pyro Technic Popcorn. - Oh, geez. - Have you had that? - No. - Do you want the shit? It is popcorn that has like cheese and then like garlic powder. It's like meant to be super hot. - Oh, whoa. - And I don't know if like, maybe this is the first day on the menu and they like put too much. I was like, my mouth was burning and I couldn't stop. So I was feeling hot. - Yeah, I'm sure. - But it was late, there was a good amount of people. Like, you know, you had that vibe. - I love that. I love a good theater watch. When we saw the "It" remake, it was a hot crowd. - Really? - Which made it so much fun to watch. - Yeah, I mean, I feel like everyone's screaming and then there's like, that's sort of like nervous laugh afterwards, like the whole theater is, I love that. - Yeah, everyone, and I was also laughing. But I don't think I was annoying anybody 'cause other people were laughing too. There's a scene where they show like, they have long nights in custody and they show him like, and he's singing Happy Birthday. And then the cop posits and she's like, it goes on like that for 24 more minutes. (laughs) And everyone laughed because you know it really did. - Yeah. (laughs) - You know, there are 24 minutes of him just singing Happy Birthday. It seems like, I don't know what was on the page, but it seems like Nicholas Kid just did whatever he wanted. And God bless him because when he's on the screen, it is captivating. It's terrifying and captivating and you're like, every choice you're making makes me uncomfortable. Everything you're doing is wrong. (laughs) - It's amazing that he's been around for that long and is still pulling that stuff out. Like he's still surprising people. - It's a fearless performance. - I think that's what he is. And I know he-- - He just goes. - I know he needs money because he like bought a pyramid and like a T-Rex skull and some other shit. But like, what a gift to us that he's broke. Like because he's been just churning him out and making gold like the last few years he's been making gold. - The last few years have been really good. - He's been really good. - Thought, what was the one where he's like in everyone's dreams? - Oh, yeah. - That was really good. Did you see that? - No, no, I think we discussed the trailer for that one. - Yes, we did, we won't talk about the trailer. Oh wait, is it sleep scenario? - Dream scenario. - Dream scenario. - Dream scenario. - Yeah, that's it. - He's been, he's been really good. He's, he's just really good. - And he's becoming a little like a horror king. - Yeah, right, with Mandy, things like that. But nowadays, like people think, you know, your realism is a style that you can use as an artist. But people, I think tend to think that with acting realism is the only choice. And for him, it's not. He's doing something, but it's not realism. You don't believe he's that person, but he's embodying in such a fascinating, surreal way. It's like surreal acting. - Yeah. - And fucking, him as long as he's fucking just bananas, it's good, I can't stop thinking about it. I really, I do want to see it again. I feel like, I didn't want to see it again right away, 'cause I've been like, just ruminating on it and thinking about it and watching videos on it. And now I want to go back and see how I feel at the same time. But like, Jen does not want to see it. - Did she watch it with you the first time? - No, it just Anthony did. - Okay, okay, okay. - She does not like scary movies. - Yeah. - She did want me to go and see it and then tell her everything that happened to it. - Oh, this is why I love the ruined podcast. I absolutely love the ruined podcast. - I love the listening to ruined. - And I like it mostly for movies I've seen. Like I just like to hear them discuss it and like kind of go over it beat for beat. It's like rewatching the movie. - Yeah, I like ruined, it's good. - ruined is fun, I find them very funny. - What's your current obsession? - It's universal, I've been talking about it this whole time. I mean, we came back, we had a blast, so humid. We were all puddles the whole time we were there. But had a great, great, great time. And it was like all new, basically. - Oh, you've been all that I've been in. - I haven't been, yeah. And they added a bunch of screen rides in like 2016, 2017. And then they added like a ton of new stuff recently. So Universal Studios, the actual park, basically only has ET, men in black. - Still has men in black, huh? - They still have men in black. And what's the other one that they still have? - Mummy. - Mummy. Yeah, but we didn't go on that this time 'cause we had the littles with us and we weren't taking them on that, but basically just those three rides. And then everything else is brand new. Like in the last, less than 10 years. So it was really like just visiting a new theme park. It's like they have the minions land, which of course the kids love. They have, you know, the screen ride section, they have like a Transformers one, we didn't like that. The Jimmy Fallon ride, which absolutely don't sleep on it. It's great. And then we, you know, they still have all the Street Mysphere. They have, you know, the New York area, the Blues Brothers are still there doing their thing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But now they have a new parade. The parade is fantastic. The floats are incredible. - Yes, I could see you online. - So good. - It's like a joyous float. - There's a joyous float. - There's some joys there. - I know, but it was pouring at that point. So like, yeah. I just heard Bill going like, "Von, von!" But they was like, it was down pouring. Quinn was strapped to, they were all like all the performers who were on the parade floats are like strapped in. So they don't fall off, of course. And he was like, he looked like Captain Ahab. He was like weathering the storm and like really hamming it up for everybody. That was really fun. The Ghostbusters float is incredible. - Yes, yes. - The storm really added to the Jurassic Park float, 'cause it was really like the scene, like the T-Rex is coming down. And the T-Rex float has this working animatronic of the T-Rex that looks really beautiful. - And there's thick saliva in the mouth and on the teeth strings of saliva that look so real. - That's well, that's nice. - It's so nice. And then, you know, of course, all the Harry Potter stuff is like pitch perfect, really beautiful. We got to ride the Hogwarts Express there and back. Simpson's world was amazing. Simpson's world was amazing for the merch and the food. Like, they have so many food options. They have a great merch. It really is like you walked into the cartoon. So we had a blast. They had a new DreamWorks world there for the little kids. They have troll stuff. So that was really fun. Islands of the Adventure is mostly the same, but they've, oh, Universe also has like a huge coaster called the Rip Red Rocket. We did not go on that. But Islands of Adventure pretty much is everything the same with the exception of they have a huge new coaster called Velocia Coaster. It looks crazy. - Okay. - And then they had this Kong screen ride that they made a few years back. We didn't go on that 'cause they said there was like a warning. Like little kids were tall enough to go on it, but they had this warning outside. Like it's too intense. Like it's too scary. So we didn't take them. - It just looks like screen rides bummed me out. - Well, I agree. Typically, I mean, I love the Spider-Man ride, but I had to say I was like talking up the Jimmy Fallon ride. And they're like, don't sleep on it. It was really fun. It was a good one. So now we return from the trip. And all the kids want to watch just like POV, POV 4K. - Yeah. - Front row. - Yeah. - Of whatever ride that they did. - Okay. - And they're like reliving the trip over and over again. Henry did some drop rides. - Wow. - He did Jurassic Park River Adventure. - That's the original Jurassic Park ride. - That's the original Jurassic Park ride. - I've never done it. I would not do it. - I don't love it. I don't love a drop ride, but I would do it. But I didn't this time because I was like, oh, I gotta say with Peter, he's-- - Yeah. - You go. - Yeah. - And then he did deadly do right, deadly do right. We did not do it when we went. And it's because I went on that ride one time as a teenager. And I never wanted to do it again. It's so much steeper than it looks. And it's like cute and cartoony and colorful. And nothing about it suggested it's scary ride. And then the drop is nuts. And like the part that you can see, it goes further than that. Like it goes under further. - Is it a log flume? - It's like a log flume ride, yeah. - It's like splash mountain, but it's-- - It really goes stinky. - And it goes like on a curve. So it's like, it really gets ya. It's not like, splash mountain, I feel it has an angle to it. So the drop is gentler. This is like, they drop ya. Henry came out, historically crying. She was like, I was holding him. I'm like, all buddy. And he's like, I thought I was gonna die. Oh, but, but he's been rewatching it and then like telling like whoever's over. - Yeah, yeah. - I went on it. I went on that. - Can you believe it? - It's bravery. - I'm very proud. Yeah, so we had a blast. And we got to go to the Epic Universe preview. - Yeah, how-- - Experience, it's a store. But in the center, they have like the, you know, three-dimensional map. They went all in on how to train your dragon. - Oh, really? - It is humongous. Like by far the biggest of the Epic Universe lands. - Smart. - So, but I don't know why. I'm like, is it that popular? My kids didn't wanna watch that. Like, we started it and they got-- - I liked the first movie. - I liked it too. - I thought it was funny. - Although it seems, I mean, it's a great idea just in Ferb Park. - Yeah. - I mean, remember like when they did, when Disney did Animal Kingdom, they were supposed to be in like a myth section. - Yeah. - Which they never did. - Yeah. - It's like that. Like dinosaurs? I mean dinosaurs. - Like dragons? - Yeah. - I'm dragons. I mean, they kind of had that prior to Harry Potter being there 'cause they had dueling dragons. - Yes. - And that area was like a no IP zone. - Yes. - Which is kind of like fantasy. And they had Greek and they had Arabian nights. - Yeah, it was not where they had them. - What do you call it? Like, Poseidon's? - They had Poseidon's thing. - Yeah. - Yeah, they had like the many adventures of like Sinbad, I think. And then they also had this like tree. That was a restaurant. And it was like a tree with a face. And it was like a, like supposed to be almost like a Dungeons and Dragons type of tavern or something that you would go to. And I was right across from dueling dragons. - Yeah. - This has gotten me into the Universal YouTubers. 'Cause I've always like, I've always been into like the Disney YouTubers. - Sure. - But there's this guy Vincent Vision. He's a Universal YouTuber. So he's just, I'm like, I'm always amazed that they're like encyclopedic knowledge of what I consider much smaller of a thing than Disney. But they have so much IP and they own so much music because of their record labels. - Sure, yeah. - So they're able to use so much in the parks which is really incredible and include like songs and their rides and stuff that you wouldn't get on others. Like you wouldn't get that necessarily at Disney. So that has been interesting to see. And then I have this video bookmarked of like differences between Universal Studios like now versus 25 years ago which is like sort of the era that I was there. And I just kind of want to see like what they changed exactly. So now I'm deep into the Universal side of theme park living. - How did some of the material look for the monsters land? - Okay, so when you enter all of the lands you have to enter through like a tunnel. - Yeah. - And you see that. And so there's like an electrical spire. They did that in like the preview, you can see the spire. And then you enter into a village. Like you can see the entrance comes into almost like a Hogsmeade type village. And that's where like the restaurant is gonna be. And then you come up to the castle which I guess is Dracula's castle. And then you can see like a massive warehouse behind that 'cause they include all the plans for like the where, like where they're housing these rides. So that's gonna be a screen ride probably with a track component. We did green dots. That's a screen ride with a track. - Yeah. - Sort of like Revenge of the Mummy. - Yes. - They do that a lot too. We'll do these hybrid rides. - Yeah. - Those I think are pretty successful. - Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. - A screen dance is an actual ride but it includes a lot of screens. - That's a semitism. - God. - So much. - Oh boy. I mean, we see it now. Right? Well, now we'll do better. But yes, it seems like there's a lot of screen rides in the Ministry of Magic area 'cause you can see there's like two or three big, like warehouses behind facades. Isle of Burke seems to be all outside. Like it seems like the rides are all outside and the Super Mario Land seems to be all outside as well. And you can see the Donkey Kong roller coaster that they have and like cute little Yoshi rides. - Yeah, yeah. - And like. - That's the vibe, man. - What about the Super Mario Land? - It's like the people move with the Yoshi ride. - Yeah, yeah, it looks like that. Or they have in Islands of Adventure, the Dr. Seuss Trolley. It just kind of takes you around. So I'm very excited to go on that. But I feel like the Super Mario Land looks cheap. I feel like it looks cheap everywhere. It looks cheap in Tokyo. It looks cheap in LA. It's just primary colors, I think, look cheap for me. - Oh, right, okay. - It's not their fault. It's just how it looks. But I'm excited to go. And then do they have another land? - Well, they're like the central hub. - The celestial park. - It looks like a lot of space. Like it's just open space. Like truly like a park. So I don't know if they're gonna fill that with anything. It looks very pretty. And then they have the massive hotel. - Oh yeah. - And the hotel is gonna be on property. So you can just walk into Celestial Park from the hotel it looks like. Like there doesn't, you don't have to take a boat or anything. - Wow, that's interesting. - But then everywhere else it seems like you'd have to take from any of the other hotels, you'd have to take like a bus, I think. I don't think it's connected in any way. 'Cause what's cool about the hotel system at Universal is you take a boat. Like there's just a boat that connects all of them. It's a lot of fun. But we stayed at Hard Rock. Highly recommend. We had a fun time. That was a good one. - Nice. - It's a good hotel. - Yeah, I'm excited for, I guess the thing I wanted to say for is the Universal Monster Land. 'Cause that's the IP I like the most. - Okay. When I went to the store, I was like looking for the Universal Monster in March. Now they have their own kind of, they have their store on the like Hollywood Boulevard with just the stuff for each monster. But this was the stuff for Dark Universe or whatever it's called. And I hated the design. It's like all black with like blue lining and I hated it. - What about the actual guys? 'Cause it seems like they're not designing them. Obviously, I knew that they would have to update them, but they don't look like the guys we know. - They're not on the merch outside of like a silhouette. They're in silhouette on the merch. But they have not really developed that merch yet. And what they have now is, I don't like it. I didn't pick a thing. - Like what kind of stuff did they have? - They have like the usual fare. Keychains, towels, glasses, mugs. But they handled like the seam design on everything. And it was just like the silhouette of the monsters and then like blue lightning in a black background. It was, I hated it, I just hated it. So, and it's all the guy. And when we were checking out 'cause I was buying something that was Universal Monster's themed, but it was stuff from the other stores. It's just like one thing of a monster. And I was like, I wanted to buy something from this land, but like I hate this design. And he was like, we kind of don't like, I'm like, I know you guys didn't design it. I'm just saying, he's like, we're waiting for the good stuff. - Yeah, I mean, it's the sort of- - It's the preview. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll figure it out. Very cool. So, and what did you, did you go on, what's the like the big Harry Potter ride? - Is it a ski from Grand Gats? - I guess that is. What's the- - The big one was the new one or newer one, which is the Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure. - Now, is that just a roller coaster? - Yeah, yeah, it's weird roller coaster. It doesn't have like loops or hills or drops. It is just fast. - You're thinking of a train. - I'm thinking of a train. That's what I'm thinking of. It's, you know what, it's just a car. - Yeah, actually I'd like it if it was just fast. - It's just fast. - I like test track. - If you, almost like test track, yes. If you want to do what we've been doing and do a POV 4K front row of Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure, it is just fast. It's like, they do turns, but they're not like upset, they're just turns and it's just incredibly fast. - Really? - And then they do one thing where they kind of like go up and then, but not that high. Like they go up and then they're like whoops and then they go backwards and then you go backwards for a portion of it. But it's like, it's not up and down. - I'm fine, but I'm fine with that. - You might actually be able to do it. It's just super duper fast and people love it. Like people go crazy. They do not have an express pass lane for that ride, which is why we didn't do it. Because Henry was just tall enough and he wanted to, but I'm like, but you think you're going to handle like two hours of weight. Like, I don't think I'm going to handle that. And he was like, oh, I know we'd get there and he'd be like, I have to go to the bathroom. Okay, sorry, because we have to leave now. - Me and Jen did this thing in the city, the Manhattan for where we are. - You know, like the circle line, where they have like the little cruises that go like it's like an hour or you go on the Hudson River? Okay, so they have a new thing called the beast. And the beast is a giant-- - Is it the speedboat? - Green speedboat. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. - And you, they blast Cockrock. (laughs) And it's just like, it's just fast. It's faster than you're bumping. Like, there's drops because whoever the is, actually his name is Big Diesel. Big Diesel's the name of the guy driving the boat. - Hell yeah. - What, Big Diesel I guess is-- - Is he a rookie? - No, of course not. He's not doing repairs, he was driving it. Big Diesel's like a good enough driver, I don't know what you call it, that he'll see like a wave and like know that he could get a drop out of it. Well, like, you go out and then he does two big turns where you get wet and they tell you like, you're gonna get wet on this. It's like a thrill ride on a boat and Hudson River water. (laughs) - You're gonna get stuff. - It, oh, I-- - You're like close enough. - It's so gross. And then they, you know, and it's just Cockrock. And they were playing like Bon Jovi. Everybody's singing it and putting their hands up and if you're going so fucking fast. - That sounds really fun. - It's really good, it's really good. Like, it's, and it's long too. Like, riding a park is never that long. - Right. - The only like respite is you stop in front of this Statue of Liberty and they're like, okay, you wanna take selfies? Well, he's gonna go around, take selfies. And then like, you take out your phone and do a selfie. - Right. - But then he's like, all right, I wanna go fast again and then you fucking, fucking Big Diesel hits the fucking-- - I love it. - I mean like, it's going so fast, like the boat is like-- - Like not even touching the water. - Yeah, like you were like, blah, like it's like, and I was wearing a, you know, I'm an old man. So I was worried like I was gonna be sick or my back is gonna hurt. - Yeah. - No, I was thrilled, it was so good. But we were soaking wet with the grossest water you could imagine. They were like condoms and like dead mafia members on me. It was disgusting. - And just dental floss pics, so many. - They're always on the beach. - Who's flossing this much? - I saw, I guess that's how you could see this if you're really looking, but when we were out there, we saw a boat and then next to the boat, I guess it was his friend's boat, was a guy swimming. - Ew. - Yeah. - No. Ew. - Okay, you know I was a competitive swimmer. - Yes. - We had an opportunity because they were doing this race to like swim the harbor. - Yeah. - And like you'd swim around the Statue of Liberty and like is part of this race and like none of us did it except, I don't know if you want a bleeper name, Angela. - Her parents were like, you're not going in that river. - And she did it and she got so sick afterwards. - Really? - Yeah, she actually got really sick. - That is, you cannot go in that one. - No, you cannot. So yeah, she did that race. Like it was, it was like a, not really like a competition. It was more like, we're gonna do this thing, almost like a triathlon. - It's like brown. - It is. - It looks like the river of chocolate. - Everyone was like, no! And her parents were like, okay, sure. And she got sick as a dog. Yeah, so that was not good. - Yeah. - That was not good. - It was gross. But it was fun to get smashed. It was fun to go fast. I would. - That sounds like a great time. - Do it, do the beasts. - We always see the, - I don't think you can bring the kids. I don't think they'll call us. - Big enough, right? No, we always see like, it's not a pirate ship. I think it's a historical sailing boat. But you can go for sales on it. It's like next to a South Street seaport. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We always see that one when we're like in the city. And we're like, boy, do you wanna go on that ship? And they're like, no. (laughing) It's all right, I like them, whatever. 'Cause we can go fuck ourselves. (laughing) - Hilarious. All right, this has been a big episode. We learned a lot, we learned a lot about Wilkes and what they are capable of as a people. And we had people walk in here. - People just walking in off the street. - We did a special guest, terrified man. - Do you know who walked in? - Who terrified us all. (laughing) - Imagine if it was a walkie? Then I'd be like, I get it. You can't-- - Come on in. - Doors are hard for you to understand. (laughing) All right, this has been BCMC. I'm Mike Munger on arm here. - It was long legs. I came into our house. - Oh, how are you doing? - Oh, how are you doing? - What are you doing up here? - How are you doing up here? - How are you doing up here? - Is it your birthday? - I don't know, happy birthday. (laughing) - I brought my long legs to today. - Oh, wait, bye. - Oh, it took you short legs? - No, it's like a dad joke. - Is he? - Oh, why? - Because when he sees the girl, the first scene is a scene where you see a girl and you see the bottom of his mouth. - Yeah. - And he's like, oh, I'm sorry. I wore my long legs today. And then he bends down the talk there. So it's a dad joke, kinda. But it's also what he signs his zodiac letters as-- - Long legs. - It's not clear, but I think at one point, she decodes them using the word long legs. - Okay. - It's just another weird thing and a movie full of weird things. This has been PCMC. We end the episode by saying-- - Go, bye, bye, happy birthday. - Go, bye, bye. - Go, bye, bye. - Go, bye, bye. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (music)