Ben & Woods On Demand Podcast

8am Hour - Taylor Camp, Wildcard Standings, + Bret Boone Joins The Show!

Ben & Woods start the 8am hour talking about "Taylor Camp" which the Woods family learned about while in Hawaii, and 3 year old Taylor really enjoyed the coffee table book. Then we take an updated look at the Wildcard standings where the Padres currently sit alone at the top before we're joined by Audacy MLB insider Bret Boone at the bottom of the hour! Listen here!

Duration:: 41m
Broadcast on:: 07 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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If they're funny, they're on Talk Is Jericho. So listen to and follow Talk Is Jericho now on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast. Oh, we are halfway home on a Wednesday. I do believe Mahalo, everybody, or Aloha. For the rest of us, yes. Yeah, Wednesday for you guys. This is what I told Hannah this morning. I said, "Nice short week for me this week." Short show tomorrow. Right? Correct with the, assuming no rain out, you know, Padres have a nine, what is it? 940 start, 840 pregame show tomorrow. So yeah, we'll be on, we'll be giving away to Sammy Levitt about 30 minutes from now in 24 hours. P.C.K. As fun as it's been to have you back after today. I'll see you on Tuesday. Yeah, Paulie's heading out on vacation as a crew back together. And yeah, we had two more hours and then Paulie's going on vacation for three shows. We've got the Clue Ginator is going to be baldrindle, as it were. Is going to be filling in the next couple of days. Our beloved brand manager, Adam Clue. He is Swiss Army knife of the radio station, certainly. I'm Woodsy, also known as Kiwi in Hawaii, and we've got Paolo, Paulie, the executive producer, and we've got Penai. Ben? Penny. Penai. Penai. Penai. Yeah, Penai. Penai. Those are our Hawaiian names. Those are our Hawaiian names. So, it's good to be back. It's good to be back with you guys. I was thinking about it. We always say this anytime you travel anywhere. It does lessen the sting a little bit, leaving a place like Kauai. And then flying into San Diego, we landed a weather was perfect. Just beautiful driving into our neighborhood, getting into our homes, sleeping on our own beds. It was great. Imagine flying back to Akron, you know, after being in Kauai, you're like, "Oh, God, this really sucks." Coming back to San Diego, definitely, it lessens the sting. Yeah, it lessens the sting. It eases you a little bit when you fly home. But I had to tell you guys about this, because when we got settled into our house, which is like an Airbnb vacation rental, it's beyond stunning. There was a book on the coffee table, it was a coffee table book, and it was called Taylor Camp. Now, my three-year-old is learning his letters, and he's starting to read, and he certainly recognizes his name when he sees it. So he was delighted. This was something left for him personally. It wasn't left for him personally, it just happened to be there. But he might have thought that. He was like, "This is unbelievable. Look down at Taylor, Taylor says, "Absolutely. Let's crack it open and see what Taylor Camp's all about." Well then, Taylor Camp was a small settlement established in the spring of 1969, the summer of love on the island of Kauai, covered an area of seven acres, and now it began with 13 hippies seeking refuge from the audience. I still remote now. But back then, it was truly the ends of the year. Truly, the jungle, really, as it were. It began with 13 hippies seeking refuge from the ongoing campus riots and police brutality in the United States. They were arrested for vagrancy, but Howard Taylor, brother of movie star Elizabeth Taylor, bailed them out of jail, invited them to settle on this beachfront property that he owned. So we start thumbing through Taylor Camp, the book. Well, Taylor Camp also happened to be a nudist's colony. So we are, you know, at the beginning, and so here's their tree houses that they lived in. Oh, there's, there's this guy's dong, just chill and Taylor, my Taylor, starts cackling and he starts laughing like you wouldn't believe. Dada! Dada! Look, he's pointing at pictures. If you're in the chat, it does a little bit better. There's naked women in there and he is having the time of his life. And this is like the first day we're there. Let's just say that I caught him thumbing through the Taylor Camp book on more than one occasion all the time he was going to have to hide it at some point from him. I really didn't think to hide it. I didn't want to mess with it. But he had a feel of that. So first you had the birds and the bees, the book that he brought from the lending library in your neighborhood. And now you've got Taylor Camp, dude, he, I mean, there was, there's all sorts of nudity, all sorts of nudity. I mean, you may be sending Taylor down a path in a life path. I didn't send him down anything. You know, every kid is curious and he is very, very curious. Let's put it that way. And we really, really had a fun time and Hannah and Susie actually went up to the area where Taylor Camp was and they ended up, once people got kind of tired of that nudist colony being there, well, they did what they do on Kauai. They burned it down if they, so tell us about this. I'm not joking when I say this and my father-in-law has been going there since like forever. And we would pass these things on the street and I would go, what's that? With all like the kind of construction wrapping around, I go, what is that? He goes, oh, that was a hotel. Some people tried to build and the natives burned it down. And I said, well, what's that over there? Oh, that's another place that they burned down. When they don't like something there, they just burn it down. I mean, really, like imagine your neighborhood where you live now and somebody puts up an adult video store. Now, instead of picketing or writing, yeah, like zoning regulations and stuff here, but they just go, imagine if we don't build it, if we don't like it, it will just torture. Yeah, you're, you live in Encinitas and they put up an adult bookstore down on the corner. Now you could be upset about it and you could write your congressman and your mayor and whatever. Not there. No, they just go, hey, let's torch this place that we've done with it. They've done it. They've done it a bunch. I mean, there's a bunch of things around it that are like, oh, we don't like this development. So we're going to, we're going to burn it down. And so they just go towards it. One way to do it. It's one way to do it. There's one way to do it. Jeffrey in the chat had a question about your Taylor Camp book. He wants to know how many penai were in this book. There was a lot of penai more than I really would have liked to see. Now, again, remember too, you're talking about 1969 penai and that is a totally different look than technically it's the same. It's not though. There's grooming. There's not one of them. Sure. They didn't have the manscape. Well, we haven't evolved as a species. I mean, we man in 1969 look would look exactly like man in 2024 without maybe you, it would look different. It's just the choices you make. Let's put it this way. If I posed in the tree house as this man posed in the tree house, it would look different than this, how this guy looked. You may look the same. That's a matter of personal preference, but I would look different than this guy looked. Yeah, he looked it up on Amazon Taylor Camp book. Yeah. You can get a hardcover edition for $125. Yeah, $125. And there is a topless woman on the cover. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And deal on Twitter. Just see what is that for you. This is actually incredible. Dil on Twitter says LMAO my aunt was a part of Taylor Camp and is in that book. Dil, I've seen your aunt nude and you might have as well. What a small world it truly, truly is. Now I didn't, I was worried you might try to sneak that book into, it's a big coffee table book. It's big. You carry on like a cherry on. He's carrying under his arm, but I got to make, I got to leave that for the next guests of the Airbnb to enjoy. Correct. I need to find, I need to get a shirt made for him, a Taylor Camp shirt because it just, we laughed so hard and I would look over and there he is, he thumbing through that. I'm like, bro, I don't know. One way to do it, but it was one of the highlights of the trip for sure. That is, but so there was no actual nudist camps there. You were, you didn't go to any clothing, optional beaches or anything because when you tweeted it, I was going, where are they, where are they taking Taylor and to why that it's, it's clothing optional. I was, you know, there's, there's outdoor showers everywhere and like by in our house and so we would go on the beach and then come home and we would just, everyone would just go get in the outdoor shower, but yeah, you're, you're nude a lot there. You feel very comfortable and free being nude, walking around in, in Kauai. You guys do that at your own. Yeah, we kind of do. We're kind of the angel like nudists a little bit, at least in our comfort of our own home, but yeah, it was a little odd. It was a little odd that book and an interesting choice, certainly. No, I'm glad you're back. It's great to be back. It's good to have you. We missed you. You must say things went pretty well while you were gone. Padres did their, their part of the equation. That's what I was most nervous about. We, Paulie, we never had to talk really about a loss. They had the one loss while you were gone was the Friday game, which is, we didn't have to talk about it. We've raised right over that. We touched on it briefly on, on Monday, but because they ended up winning Saturday and Sunday, it just felt like a, just don't look like a one off, you know, eh, your Rockies had a few balls fall in, whatever. Move on from that one, but really it's been such a nice string. Now we usually give you a chance to like bring something up from while you were gone. Like you said, you watched the games. Is there anything in particular that you caught your eye or attention while you were on vacation that you wanted to bring up? It's got to be Mike Shilt just out managing Dave Roberts and watching Dave Roberts just completely, completely, that was the first game you missed. Yeah. Two days. I mean, who followed that? Like, I watched it. Okay. Yeah. So that was the day we traveled. Yeah. Yeah. So I called you guys the next day. And I think I might have brought it up. Yeah. I think I did bring it up. But that to me was my favorite moment when I was gone watching the, like, is this your first game managing? Unbelievable. Your first day, that was, that was brilliant. The other thing, did you guys talk about some of the teams that decided to do nothing at the trade deadline, like the angels and like the Rockies. And I lit a whole segment where I lit up the Rockies for like, are you even paying attention? What do you know? What do you do here? How are we very confused with the giants? Like, so are you buying or selling with your keeping Blake Snell? Right. What throws a no, no, no. That's right. The Blake Snell no, no happen when I was gone. Yeah. The thing that's kind of the thing I wanted to bring up was like, if you're a Rockies fan or you're an angels fan, you had all of these pieces that certainly people called about and you did nothing. That is, dude, it's malpractice, Perry Manasian malpractice. Now, again, I think with Perry, nobody really knows how much authority he has. If it's Artie Moreno, I don't want to trade this guy. I don't want to trade that. They did. They traded one person. They traded a step as I think maybe, but they had so many other movable pieces that they didn't get anything back for and they're on expiring contracts. Like, that's, that's- Tyler Anderson doesn't go any further. Yeah. That's a weird, weird thing that they did, so that was, but my favorite moment when I was gone was the very flummoxed Dave Roberts, just got out there. You just did get to- I talked to Mike Schilt about that on Friday and I think he didn't really, he didn't want to take credit for it, but I think he appreciated that it was noticed by the fan base. Oh, yeah, man. How well that was executed by his team in the combat. I can't remember. You called in that next morning and you, it was like, as you were hanging out, there was like a very tongue in cheek. I think he said something like, "Hey, you know, I'm just going to give Dave the benefit of the doubt." Yeah. Yeah. Hadn't been around the game very long. Right. Right. Yeah. First, first couple games. So yeah, it was, that was such an awful... We kept playing the audio the next morning. He was asked about it and he basically said, "I didn't know the rule." Just what every general manager, owner, fan wants to hear from a team that spent a billion dollars to get better in the off season, now four games ahead of the San Diego Padres, breathe another neck, pretty nuts. So that was, that was special. I was, again, my favorite thing was how well the guys played when I was gone. That first game was one of the most electric games I've ever seen. Yeah. Incredible. It really was incredible. Two of five in the first and then shut them out the rest of the way, fight and claw. And then he had like two or three web gems in the third and then the bomb... The going into the, going into the dugouts. Yeah. He had the bomb to lead off the nine. Incredible. And you're still down one and then Jackson Merrill just rises to the occasion as he has time and time again. Unbelievable. It was incredible. That was an incredible win and very, very proud of those, those fellows as well as they're playing right now. And Michael King's on the bump tonight, go out and you win this series tonight. You know, you win the series tonight against Pittsburgh. Michael King's been great, keep being great and we'll see what happens. And usually the pressure has been kept on by some of the other wild card contenders, but it was a good night last night. I want to go through some of the other action that happened to Major League Baseball because there were a couple of significant developments in MLB last night. We can get into that coming up next to them and Brett Boone is going to join us at the bottom of the hour as we continue our big league Wednesday. Don't miss a minute of it. Stay tuned. More Ben Woods coming up after a check of Kelly's traffic on 97 through the fan. Come check. What kind of summer are we having this year? A family road trip summer, a beach bump summer, or a wake me when the sun's set summer. With Instacart, choose your own adventure and skip the shopping side quests. 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So for the first time all season, just in time for Woods' return, Padres are alone atop the wild card standings. Number one spot after the results yesterday, the Padres win, of course, but the Atlanta Braves were shut out by the Milwaukee Brewers 10 nothing. They continue to slide, Colin Ray went seven, shut out any, he's 10 and three, just another Lord. There's a lot of Padres out there. The Diamondbacks got rained out, so they'll play a double header today, but they, you know, fell a half game behind the Padres because of that. And then the Dodgers also lost six to two, mention that earlier. So the Padres just four games back in the National League West Cardinals did win four to three behind Sonny Gray over the Rays, but the Mets lost to the Rockies helping everybody out with a six, three win over the Mets. So there's now two and a half games of separation, which isn't a ton, but from the Padres to the first non playoff spot, which is the New York Mets. Not, and I think chance to get comfortable or like, okay, we can cruise, but pretty much this entire time, even when the Padres have been holding onto a playoff spot, they've always been like one day from, yeah, you lose and everybody wins around. Yeah. All right. I mean, the tiniest bit of breathing room right now, not, not time to obviously take your foot off the accelerator, but you keep winning and good things happen in the standings. But there were a couple of other interesting results yesterday in a Major League Baseball. How about this one? White Sox five A's one, the first win for the white Sox since July 10 21 game losing streak, tying the American League record is over. I got the win yesterday. Yeah. Hold on. You're so pissed if you're the A's. You're like, no, why us? Why do they have to be? I mean, they are the second worst team in base, but they're 20 games. They're 20 games in front of the white Sox who are the worst team in the American League. I mean, if they're ever going to beat someone, you think the A's would be a good candidate for it. We talked about it. I think yesterday, I mean, it's over. They won. So it doesn't matter now. But like when you're at 21 and the record was, what was it, 23, like, we were talking if you're a white Sox fan that you want it at that point, at a certain point in those 21 games, you're kind of just, yeah, you want if you're going to be the poster children in the moment you want it, but do you want to always like in 10 years when a team lose 17 in a row? Well, remember, the longest streak, it belongs to those 20, 24, no, you want to feel the pain. You don't want to have it brought up over and over again for decades. I want to feel that you have the record. When I when I used to get broken up with, I would listen to the saddest music. I would not listen to Bobby McFerran when I would have a heartbreak. I wouldn't be listening to Bob Marley and like, don't worry. I would listen to the cure and sad music. I wanted to feel it every bit of it. And that's how I would absolutely want the record and I and it's something that the fans can absolutely throw in Ryan's door's face and Pedro Grifal, like you led the worst team in baseball history. They also had like a 15 game losing streak as well. I mean, imagine a 21 gamer and a 15 gamer in the same season. Speaking of not being able to rest, then this is the tweet that Sammy Levitt sent a couple days ago that has had me thinking nonstop and it was really well, well, well worded tweet and he says the potteries have 49 games remaining. This is a couple days ago. They play six against Pittsburgh, four against New York, three games against St. Louis, six against San Francisco, three games against Arizona, 50% of their remaining games are against teams in this photo. And of course, it's a photo of the NL wild card standings. Holy crap. I know, you know, I know it's tense. I didn't really tell that tweet came out. I didn't really realize how tense it's going to be. It's going to be tense. It's going to be live and die with this team as it would be for a lot of us anyway, but holy smokes, man. These games are huge. Yeah. You know, starting with this series, I mentioned it yesterday that this is the last kind of shot for the pirates to get back in it. You know, they're probably were thinking, sweet, hey, if we sweep, we are still in this thing. Well, now they've already lost the first game. They lose either of the next two, they're 500. They lose both of them. They're two games under 500. They're essentially, they're done. They're cooked. They're toast. So, but you're going to face other teams like that. And I think Sammy corrected. There's actually four games against the Cardinals, but, you know, the Mets have already swept you. So they've kind of got that advantage there. I'm sure the Mets are looking at, hey, we can catch all we have to do is tie the Padres. We'll have the tiebreaker on them. If we, if we take care of business against them, there's a lot of teams looking at the Padres as an opportunity to make up ground now, like, hey, we've got head-to-head matchups against the teams ahead of us. Sure. That's what you want. That's what you want. When you're three or four games back in a wild card race, the Giants are thinking it. The Mets are thinking it. The Cardinals are thinking it. They all have an opportunity to have the Padres circled on their schedule the rest of this season. Yeah, not because they're rollover games, but because it's head-to-head and yeah, I mean, the Padres are doing the same thing. I mean, if you're Mike Schilden, you're the leadership of the team, you're absolutely want to have those games against those teams because you control your own destiny. Now you also have six left against the Marlins and the White Sox, but it makes you nervous. The two teams that sold off that should have nothing left. You feel like you go five and one and you're kind of giving up a game almost, like, oh, yeah. Five and one's great, but it's great. It almost is not enough. Like you go four and two, that's, that's, that's a failure. Yeah. Yeah. In those six games, you go three and three, that's an epic failure. So those are kind of pressure pack games as well, starting this weekend. So I'm going to prank call in Miami, skip every night. I'm going to try to keep him up all night, just texting him, setting him pizza and stuff to his house. We have his address, I think. Yeah. Couple of other results from last night. Did you see the home run that CJ Abrams kicks, pitch in his eyes? My goodness, 96 or seven, like, up at his eyes and he somehow turned around on it, like outside corner, 97 at the face and he gets a home run on that ball. And then James would hit a long one as well. But guess what? They beat the Giants. So fine. I don't care that actually helps everybody in the wild card race. And for Amber Valdez had a no hitter, two outs in the ninth inning, would have been his second no hitter in the last two seasons through one last year as well with two outs in the ninth. The Rangers, Corey Seager hit a home run, a two run homer actually with a guy on base to break up the no-no on the last possible moment, but the Astros did beat the Rangers four to two in that game. I have not even followed the American League really at all much lately. I have no idea what's going on in the races over there. So the Yankees just caught the Orioles. They're back a half game ahead after their long slump. They've kind of started playing better again and the Orioles have started slumping. The Mariners and the Astros remain kind of neck and neck just barely above 500. Neither of them are in the kind of wild card picture at the moment, both like a few games out, I think four games out, so they're kind of playing for the division. And then the wild card race, it's the Orioles, they got a four and a half game leave. And then it's the twins, Royals and Red Sox essentially competing for those last two spots right now with the twins and Royals currently holding in and the Red Sox half a game behind Kansas City now in that race. Kansas City man, Seth Lugo has been such, such a good pickup for them. One guy who does follow it all is our good friend Brett Boone with his Odyssey podcast and has been joining us pretty much every week. It's awesome to have him in a big league Wednesday. Brett Boone will be with us to talk about the baseball, pennant races and more coming up next with Beno Woods on San Diego's number one sports station, 97 three, the fam about to find out who has the better Hawaiian tan between Steven Woods or our next guest Brett Boone who was in Hawaii when we talked to him last week. Of course, it's a trick question. The correct answer is always me. I've always got the better tan than either of you, right? Don't you think? You're just tan. I'm just tan. Yeah. I've just got the natural tan again. Yeah, but when he looks like he's booney's own to tanning bed. I guarantee you. We'll ask him. We'll find out. 100. Oh, that's a good question. Well, I mean, Brian Giles probably let him use his at some point for sure. Now while you were gone, we also gave Brett Boone his own walk up music. So you'll hear that right after a traffic at 90 says literally his wife. Yeah, it was. I love it. Yeah. Love it. Crazy town. Butterfly. Fantastic. Didn't take long for Woods to identify. Rest in peace. Shifty. Brett Boone's walk up music and joining us right now. Odyssey MLB insider Brett Boone insider calls presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by and also the host on the Brett Boone podcast featuring the most notable names and MLB and around sports every week. You made it back safely from the islands, Brett. I did. I did. I appreciate the music again, Ben. Looking out for it. Would if that was you really knew who that was right now? I mean, we didn't tell him. Yeah. Nice. We talked about it a couple of weeks ago and the singer passed away. I met Shifty before that that song was on one of my adult league teams when we needed a rally. We threw that on and it worked every single time every single time. So it was very special place. I had no idea that was your walk up. Oh, yeah. It's great. No lyrics. They didn't know what the lyrics were. They didn't know anything. It's just the, well, as people, it was just the vibe that it gave you. Now I had a question. So Ben said, who has the better Hawaiian tan? I burn on my legs and I tan on my arms and face. This is the first color my legs have gotten in years, but I said, I bet Brett Boone has a really nice tan. Have you owned a tanning bed in your life? I have not. I'll tell you what I do. Here's the secret. All right. Give it to me. You go to Hawaii, you head to toe, sunblock, whatever you need to do. I always, you know, I'll be out by the pool. I'll be under an umbrella. Then I come home and I go get a spray tan spray tan and a can and happy excuse to look like you did in Jamaica for months. Oh, great. I've never done a spray tan. But no, what did you know about Brian Giles's tanning habits? Brian was old and just he had a tanning booth at the time. Yeah, that's incredible. So you didn't buy if you didn't buy a tanning bed, I want to know what's the stupidest thing you did buy. Yeah. What was your catty powers purchase like the tanning bed, the jet ski? What was your dumb, dumb thing you bought? Dumbest thing I bought. I bought a lot of dumb things. I would have put a big money on me. I would have to. You can go. That was probably not the best purchase, but whatever. No, no, I was the biggest once and I came home and I won some money and I just went to the car. No, I called this. I always wanted a big truck and nothing against big truck guys because there's a time and a place for it. You can't park them. They're tough to steer. 100%. I just make a call today. I'm going to buy this truck. All right. I got it all. I got it all. The big, big, weird stuff. How about that? Oh, my God. They gave me this truck and they said, "All right. Here it is." I said, "All right here." I handed them the money and they said, "What are you doing?" I said, "Well, I said I was going to pay in cash." I wasn't going to finance it. I said, "Yeah, but we didn't think it was actually cash." I said, "Yes, here." No, real cash. You won big money. You won big money. No. I got this big truck sitting in my, doesn't fit in the garage. I mean, it's big. I had it low, you know, I had it jacked up, bit tired and I drove and I actually like driving it, but I drove it for a little bit and it just didn't fit anywhere and I ended up selling it to a guy that loved it. He got a hell of a deal. Yeah, he probably took it to a ranch. That's great. He took it to a ranch somewhere. Yeah, he took it to a ranch somewhere where he could actually, where it belongs, put it to use. All right. I needed to, you know what I was doing? I was laundering money. You're supposed to make money not lose money when you do that, Brad. That is phenomenal. That's true. Oh, dude. That's so good, man. No, we had a great time out there. What island were you on? We were at a, we were in Kona. Okay. Yeah, we were on Kauai. As far as possible. Yeah, it was, it was awesome, man. I'm happy to be back because I missed all of you guys, yourself included, but talk about those days last forever out there. I mean, you wake up and you're like, "Oh, my God." They really do. They really do. Well, ask, ask Polly. He woke me up at 3.30 to come on. Oh, boy. I've already committed to broadcasting. But I had some shows at 5 in the morning and I'm sitting out in the porch and it's dark. And my wife later is like, "Are you serious?" I said, "Well, what do you want me to do? Want me to wake you up?" She goes, "I can hear you. Everybody can hear you." I mean, we had him on, it was 5.30 Hawaii time last week. And I wanted, he was talking like this for the year, he was out on the patio and trying not to wake anybody up. Oh, I love it. I know. I've already committed to broadcasting live out there next year because we were absolutely going back, but I'll take the equipment, get up at 3 a.m. and come do the show with the fellas. But so you do hits for other radio stations too, like Arpal Softy up in Seattle, who's one of our favorite guests and, you know, huge M's guy. And you got, you know-- Go ahead. He's the best man. We love softy. That was softy. He took me to the airport. I said softy, I got to go. I need a ride. He said, "Let's go." So, yeah, I've known softy since I was a kid. I mean, I remember him back, way back in the day, when he was big softy. Now he's, then he went to skinny softy. Now he's kind of middle of the road softy. Middle softy. Yeah, that's what I consider myself more of a middle softy at this point in my life. You're talking to Brett Boone here on "Better Woods" this morning. So I'm sure he's asking you kind of the same stuff we are. I mean, the teams are, you know, both kind of fighting for a spot in the playoffs. And, you know, the Mariners, they made some moves. They've gotten some pieces. They look pretty good. Padres are playing. They're one of the hottest teams in baseball. If not the hottest team in baseball since like June 19th or something I saw. But the M's, you know, are they going to have enough to kind of push through in a pretty tough AL? Well, I look at the Mariners and they're, man, that pitching step they've got is so good. One through five. And that offense all year has been so, not even mediocre. I mean, it's been the bottom of the league. And I, we've been talking about what needs to happen to secure a place for Seattle. And I think you just have to play middle of the pack. Play decent baseball offensively. I think they're additions. I think a Rosarina and Justin Turner are going to be not only from a physical standpoint. I think their presence in that clubhouse is a big deal. Crawford and Julio have been on the IL for a while and they're coming back here soon. Obviously Julio being the star of that team but hasn't had an all-star type season. But I think a guy like a Rosarina who you're watching, you've been watching him for years, he's got a pretty big personality. But the young Julio Rodriguez does too. And I think in a way it'll almost be a challenge to Julio, you know, from an entertainment value. I think that might be a good thing for him. And then there's Justin Turner who I was just up in Seattle and I had some events up there. I had a dinner with Justin Turner. And it was the first time I met him. And I just sat and talked to him for a while. He's the last of my era type guys, you know, the way he talks. I felt like I was talking to a guy that I played with, you know, the verbiage coming out of his mouth. But really great guy. I was obviously well respected around baseball. He's 39 years old. He's kind of that guy in the room that sits at the end of the clubhouse and everybody comes to him for wisdom, I think. Like a JD Martinez type. So I think he's going to be really good. And I think the sneaky move that Seattle made is they got Garcia from the Toronto Blue Jays, which really fills a hole in their bullpen because of the Matt Brash thing. Matt Brash is a young star. Oh, yeah. And guy. Don't we know. Yeah, high leverage guy that he got Thomas Johnson was missing the season. So getting Garcia was big. But one through five in that starting rotation for the Seattle Mariners. I think it's unmatched in all baseball. I think they're interchangeable number ones. I think Castillo is called their number one at the top. He could be the number five easily. This Brian Wu kid, when he stays healthy, he's unbelievable. Miller's very good. Kirby Gilbert was the All-Star. So I think they're the only one that had five interchangeable number ones. But, you know, they got to play a little bit better. They lost yesterday. That American League West is going to be a battle. And I'm waiting for Texas. You know, I look at Texas. I go, they got to Baldi. Shurzer's back. You got a gray type of haning. DeGroms sitting there in the wings. When is he going to come back? Does he come back? There's a lot of ifs for Texas, but I'm thinking a healthy DeGroms throwing away. You know, we're DeGroms throws when he's healthy, followed up by a DeBaldi and a Shurzer. Could they make it interesting? But the longer we go, it doesn't look like they're really going to. You never know. And then Houston. You never know. Houston. They've been the juggernaut at the top of that division for a while. So I think that West race is going to be one of the most intriguing down the stretch. Yeah. It just feels like the Rangers may be running out of time. They're eight and a half out. You know. That's a Boach team. They're the one next year. But this year they'll take the year off. Take the year off. Exactly. Exactly. Well, Benny, I'm sure you won't ask them about our beloved Padres. Yeah. I wanted to turn our attention to the Padres, Brett. And, you know, they've got this big stretch now coming like one off day now in the next month. Joe Musgrove supposed to be coming back this weekend. The planning is now, how do they do that? Are they going to go to a six man rotation? Do you take one of the guys like Randy Vasquez or the newcomer Martine Perez out of the rotation to put in Joe? You want to save some innings, obviously, for Michael King going forward. Kind of what's your, what would be your thinking on the strategy of what the Padres should do pitching wise going forward here? And Brett, is there a downside to a six man rotation in your opinion? Yeah. That's a good question. I think with the guys you got to Dylan C, King was an interesting one for me. Waldern's done a great job, Paul. King was interesting to me because early in the season he had some, a couple rough outings and a man he would dominate because he's in the bullpen and it was kind of a, not that he hasn't started before, but he hasn't been an every day starter. Like he knows he's coming to the ballpark. I'm going to get 35 starts this year. He's never been that guy until now. So I think it was a little bit of an adjustment period for him. I think this King guy going forward is going to be really good. But I think for this Padres team to really go deep and you got to have a must grow, you got to have a must grow that they're used to having a horse at the top of that rotation. So I think let's get him back, see how he's pitching and everything else will just kind of fall into line. You know, obviously at the trading deadline, I was interested with the, by the way, I think the Padres did a great job. I think we covered it last by bolster and that bullpen. Now arguably the best bullpen to go in the nationally, in baseball in general and just put getting those, the Scott and Adam putting him in front of Suarez, who is one of my favorite guys, Suarez. He's just been so good and one of the great closers of the game. I just think that let must grow go, let's see how he is. Is he must grow? He's close to what we're used to seeing that horse at the top of rotation. If he is, everything else will just fall into line. Off edge is doing great. It looks, you know what it looks like? I was watching the game last night. There's a cohesiveness. There's a, these guys are actually having fun. They are. And you, you know, it sounds kind of corny for me to say that because, you know, it's not cool to say that, but there's a lot to it because for a lot of years, I didn't believe in that in coming to the ballpark. I was a business guy. I came to the ballpark. I'm swinging hard. And yeah, all this foo, foo, oh, the camaraderie, this and that, I thought it was a bunch of nonsense. Give me, give me the best talent. Let's go, let's go crush people. But as I got a little bit older and a little more experience, I, I found that the teams I played on that really had that cohesiveness that, that really got in the fox hole with each other at seven o'clock every night. Man, you had a lot better chance and you had a lot more success. And you could actually genuinely smile and enjoy what you're doing. And when you do that, you kind of forget all the pressure and the, and the schoolable, why it kind of goes away and you just kind of have that, you know, and it's not really words. It's a look. It's a wink. It's a nod. Hey, we got this. And we don't have to worry about it. It's a little bit of that going on with this team. I think they really genuinely like each other. Do you know when they like playing together? Man, that's a, that's a big, uh, that's a big feather to having your cap going in the postseason. One more thing, Brett. I don't think I've ever asked you this, but as an infielder, well, what do you think about Sun Kim? I mean, we've had him for four years. His metrics look always really good because he draws walks, his defensive stats look good. Sometimes the eye test is not as good. He goes in slumps. He, uh, makes some base running errors just from what you've seen. How do you evaluate his career so far? I think he's over achieved. I think he's, um, done more than people expected. I think he's a really good player. He steals bases. I think he could, he's, he's got that ability to play anywhere on the field. I mean, Kim, you could probably put him in center field and be a Gold Glove center fielder. He's obviously playing short second. Uh, he's, he's done that quite a bit in his career. I don't know. Going forward with this Padres team, I, you know, I'd like to see because we always talk about and kind of laugh about how many short stops are on this team. And it's interesting how, you know, none of them get to play short. Right. Kim. So I think this offseason, you've got a lot of, you've got a, you've got a Croninworth. You've got a Kim. You've got a, uh, Bogart. So, you know, if you ever traded, it'd be a tough trade. To tease. Merrill. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of short stops. You've got, you've got, right. Merrill's running around in center field. You've got so many short stops. Um, that, I don't know, it's going to be interesting to see what happens this offseason. Um, I just, I just love when Croninworth gets play second base. I think he's, that's where his value is. I think that's where he thinks his value is. And I think he went, when guys are in positions that they're comfortable in, they tend to play them. Interesting. All right. We're out of time. Um, I, I want to follow up on the second baseman and how Xander's been doing with you maybe next week, Brett, but always appreciate it. I'll welcome back from the, what was he, I just, I was going to just say, welcome back from the islands. And thanks for joining us. But I thought he had something. Oh, thanks. Oh, thanks, Brett. I appreciate it. I just didn't hear what he said. He's very tired. He's had to cover for us. Yeah, I did. All right. Brett, boom. Thanks, buddy. And of course insider calls, Odyssey insider calls presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry, Granger as the right product for you, call clickgranger.com or just stop. But no, I thought maybe you wanted to jump in with a quick comment on Xander and how he's transitioned. He said, you got it. I think he said, you got it. But we got, and we'll talk about that probably in the future, but he likes, he likes Hassan Kim. Be interested to see what the lineup looks like today. If this injury is going to keep him out for more than, than one day and what that looks like. I mean, he did have a dive on Sunday and he came up, but he always looks injured when he gets, he dives and it could have been from that. It could have been nothing. It could have been from sleeping funny on it. Have no idea whether that's going to linger, but you know, Tyler Wade went and did a nice job last night. Very nice job. You don't expect him to be your starting shortstop on a caliber, a team like this with so many short stops. Tyler Wade is the one who's out there starting seems wrong, but certainly did a nice job last night, made the plays he needed to make and contributed with a couple of hits. It's, it's the, it's what we've been talking about, man, the dream of being able to plug guys in different spots and they're actually playing and performing and think about how many guys are playing quote unquote out of position this year. It's, it's a lot. All right. 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