Hey folks, it's Dr. Sean Baker here. Let me tell you about crowd health. Crowd health is a better alternative to health insurance for people sick of paying high premiums and subsidizing the standard American diet. And now crowd health members can join the all new carnivore crowd, which is an exclusive crowd for verified metabolically healthy individuals, eating animal-based diets and funding each other's large healthcare expenses. To join the carnivore crowd, visit joincrowdhealth.com/carnivore and use the code Baker, B-A-K-E-R, and sign up for your first three months at only $99 per month. I didn't choose this. I was a chiropractor, originally, specialized structural correction that in 1999, I got very sick. And you know what I was dealing with then was not nearly as common as well if people are dealing with today. We are inundated with toxins that are disrupting our hormones, that are disrupting ourselves driving cellular inflammation. The role of toxins today is more important than ever. If you are not dealing with this, then you're simply not going to function in a state of health. It's estimated that let me take out a credit card size of the last couple of weeks. Just because you had a gene doesn't mean it had to be basically turned on, but the toxins do turn. We've got Dr. Pompa here. Thank you for doing this. I have seen some of your stuff over the years, some interesting stuff. Maybe for those that are not familiar with you, would you just give a quick brief sort of background? Yeah, what you do. - Yeah, look, I've been known for teaching doctors for 20 years about detoxification. Have site or detox specifically. Over that time, I didn't choose this. I was a chiropractor, originally, specialized structural correction that in 1999, I got very sick. I've exploited me. 2000, 2001, two, three, it was very sick, challenged. And you know what I was dealing with then, was not nearly as common as what Deeper Dilla thought today. So basically, in my balance is everything I teach today. So how I got my life back is what I teach people. I had taught doctors only for a while. And now I've developed a program called Pompa program where I'm taking it directly to the people looking for answers. Because of the internet, it's virtual. It had been packed in the world. And then there was a story on it that because when I was very sick, my wife literally crying out for answers, not just for me, but for our family. I had two kids at that time, I'd find out. Just crying out because obviously our life came to a screeching halt and it was bad. But in that, God spoke to our heart and not only is he going to get me well, but I couldn't take my message to a run. At least he would tell me that, I didn't want to hear it. Sean, I couldn't really accept those words because I couldn't even get my songs exactly when I would tell her that. Here I am, taking a message to the world. So he was right. I just say him through my life was right. And that's what I'm doing. - What, let me just ask, 'cause you mentioned detoxification. And it's, in my view, obviously I feel a lot of nutrition. I think a lot of the food supplies just not good. It's making people sick. Whether you want to call it a poison or a toxin or all the various sort of weird ingredients that are in everything now, it's hard. You got to pay extra not to be poison, it seems. You want something that doesn't have crap and you got to pay more money for some reason, which is weird to me. But where do you see the role of sort of toxins and what nature are they and how do they affect this? - If you watch my Instagram, you would see that most of the videos that take off to millions of views are just me telling people how to avoid it, how to live their life around these things that we've been exposed to. And the reason why that message is so popular is because key over the first time, understand to be well, to feel well, to stay lean to it's less un-pouled diet exercise than ever, and that's a whole statement. But what I mean by that's not important because to your point, a lot of the toxins we've carried through the diet. But unknowingly, we are getting poisoned that keep those beyond our diet even. And the diet sits on the floor of the storm. However, it is more important than ever. We are inundated with toxins that are disrupting our hormones, that are disrupting our cells, driving cellular inflammation, keeping our cells from unique hearing, and spreading out very low for people to take hormone, there are more hormone. But all we've got issues that everybody's having, all of the probiotics, that's in the though too, but yeah, it's not working. It is because we're not getting to the real reason why so many people don't feel well, to slightly better diet exercise, to spine taking hormones, taking supplements. So to answer your question, the role of toxins today is more important than ever. If you are not dealing with this, then you're simply not going to function in a state of health. I'll tell you, 20 years ago, people could change their diet, it's sort of a little bit of exercise, and feel amazing. Most of their fatigue would go with their brain fog, which is their anxiety. It's a different game today. People have a massive brain fog, wondering what's going on. Can't think, can't sleep. I just simply don't feel well. Wake up, driving through the day. Stimulant, average stimulant. For all of them, they're just so dysfunctional that they can't even lose weight when they do change their diet. That's the state in toxins with driving it. - I hear people asking me, and I honestly don't know a lot of specifics of this. Some people, well, sometimes we have things accumulating in our body fat, I'm sure other tissues store these things as well. Are they, obviously, stop exposing yourself to this thing when we step one? So if you're chronically exposed to, and sometimes it's hard, 'cause it's in the air, in many cases, and so it's not, how do you stop breathing air? But how do we get these sort of toxic things sort of removed from our body? Is it possible to remove them? How long does it take? And then are there any sort of, because people are talking, well, what happens if the toxins mobilize, and they go to other places, is that a problem? So what is the sort of the detox process involved? - Yeah, mobilization of toxins is an issue where your distribution is an issue, right? So I think it's got cast and it's been around doing detox correctly, and real detox is a cellular issue, and we'll discuss more of that in a moment, because most people think just saying I saw it as detox, doing their exlens with fats. I'm for all those things, I wrote a book on it fast, but it's not detox, and it's not how I got my life back, and it's not how people will today. You have to get to the cell, that's what these toxins are affecting, and that's where really life and death begins, and our health in general, and how could we feel? Those are cellular issues. Okay, let me say something that's important. We do avoidance, it is a quick important, but I think what I heard was saying, I thought I was watching this, I'd be like, wait, what do we do? Because it's impossible to avoid it all, and I first of all, I agree with that. If you look at the amount of plastic that we're eating, it's estimated that, let me take my credit card size at the lasticle each, just so over 30 a year. Okay, if that's a massive amount, it is phone going to disrupt it. Yes, it connects the best treatment. It blocks and threatens inflammation or a problem. It really is a hormone to zast through the plastic alone, and we have something to call it forever, chemicals that I'm teaching about forever, and because of the movie "Dark Waters" that showed what was happening, the cover up with deposit, 3M, and these companies that are just blasting us with this chemical unknowing to us. But now it's estimated that it's every living thing on the planet, and it's another hormone disruptor. How do you avoid it? Look, if you stop drinking out of plastic bowl, look at your cosmetics, go eat WGE, environmental working, you're extremely deep, and evaluate what your personal care process, for your body. Don't just steal the things with plastic, eat off plastic. You can possibly drop that, right? Maybe it's a quarter of a frame of our fat. Okay, but here's the point though. There is a certain amount of these chemicals that are unavoidable, right? What do we do? What have you learned over the years? But people that are going to adapt to the amount of toxicity that we're under, are the people who actually have cells that continue to detox us day and day out. Okay, what does that mean? This massive amount of toxins that we're under, we just scraped the storage. We didn't talk about the aluminum in there, we didn't talk about all these other heavy metal exposures, how the homes that are absolutely achieving bio-toxins from mold. I could go on infections hidden in our jaw, they're drying the toxicity. All of that is decreasing. Our cells ability to detox these toxins day and day out. So how do you combat it besides just trying to minimize it? You have to keep your cells functioning to do what they were designed to do. If you have good functioning cells that detox, day and day out, like they were designed to do, you keep us alive and healthy, then you will go mid in the air. And that's where I teach. That's where I teach how we keep people's lives back, that are all rolling, this function going what's wrong, why do I have a new thyroid condition? By the way, as thyroid conditions are exploding, why do you cause it's the first, it's the first tissues in the mind that start reacting to these chemicals. And typically it's without diagnosis, it's so fluently, you have the symptoms, dry air, brittle hair falling out, getting steed, fat losing and also getting fat and all this, can't lose weight, body temperature, dysregulation, no energy. It's how many people have all that anxiety, masturbation, there's a thyroid sickness where we will take about 10 years of having those symptoms before you're actually giving the diagnosis, oh, what did they do? They're three and a lot of formula. Oh, what does that do? Is your blood levels look better, but it doesn't mean you feel better. So the point is that, yeah, we are inundated with these toxins, but if we can give ourselves to combat it, I'll regulate these functions that God put in our cells that get rid of these toxins, from accumulating these most these toxins accumulate. And as we get older and older, we're getting more and more toxic at the cellular level. So therefore, we have to get rid of it at the cellular level. Therefore, we have to fix what's broken at the cell. And that's been in these people's lives back when you do that. That's why you owe my life back. - That's so. - Anyways, Beth, that's in a nutshell. What do I change? - What do I do? And what the world needs desperately right now? - What are the innate things that our body does at a cellular level, 2D talking with lysosomes, that lice things, we have obviously an immune system which we'll have a role in. So what is supposed to be working? That's not working for a lot of people. - No, I was teaching, this was a true story. I was teaching in California, a group of doctors. - That these boxes are a cellular problem. This is what's broken. I was going through the science of look, this is what we need to do to fix this. This is what's broken, here's the science, and here's what we need to do to fix it. And I left that lecture, knowing that I missed it. I get to see the look in their eyes and I was the only one who was feeling excited probably out of a scale of a room. I missed it because I didn't have a system of teaching. On that airplane coming home, I'm literally praying out of this frustration. I literally started these thoughts started coming in my head. I reached out and grabbed a notebook. I started taking notes, then was born, what did I call the five hours? The five hours is a roadmap of when I started teaching doctors of how we fix the cell. What I'm saying is we don't fix the cell, we will never do well. And that's really leads to what I teach about how we detox the cell. So at five hours, number one, right away is we have to remove the sources, right? We're not going to get people out, they're still living in a holy house. Our cell is in an abusive relationship. I'm feeling abused every day. We'll never fix their trauma if we don't get a lot of that relationship. Our two is the membranes. We have to regenerate cell membranes. I teach classes on this, I can teach from days on the importance of the cell membrane, getting rid of toxins. Every cell we're buying has a membrane. What comes into that cell is determined by the membrane. Matter of fact, your form of health is determined by that membrane because on every cell membrane, because it was set first to your heart. And I have said that blood levels can be normal, but if these hormones can't attach to those receptors, they themselves don't hear the cell or their message, we don't feel well. So the membrane determines our hormone. The membrane determines what we get in the cell, whether our diet works, our supplement works, the yours and the most important part. The membrane also determines what comes out of the cell. An inflamed rigid membrane due to toxins. It's the number one cause of what we call cellular inflammation, just toxins. And now you have a rigid membrane. You can't get the stuff into the past about it and then we have it. More and more toxins pull up in the cell. And then we have cellular energy drops. This is our number three, is we have to restore the surgery. As the energy goes down, our solubility neurotoxis also comes in. Cell energy and something called glutathione. That's where cells use one of the things we use to get rid of toxins, diminishes. It's called Gibbs free energy wipe. As energy drops, glutathione drops, inflammation increases. Okay, perpetual toxic cell. Oh, now what happens? It's free but gene that we can go through our parents that can get triggered. It's triggered. So now we start expressing the conditions that we don't like and end up with the diagnosis of autoimmune. Just because you had a gene doesn't mean it had to be basically turned on, but the toxins do turn on. So we have to up-regulate that cell energy. In our fours, we have to reduce inflammation of that cell because if we don't do that, we're never gonna free up these memories. We're never gonna return to that energy. We're never gonna detox the cell and our five is we have to re-establish something called methylation. Methylation is part of that detox pathway. Methylation is part of how we protect our DNA, how we make proteins. And when the tarsus blow up in that cell, methylation gets tagged. Those five wires are more like the teaching. I have many methods on how to do that. But if we don't utilize that travel, that roadmap to fixing the cell, we're never gonna get along. Never gonna get along. That's close to fate. - That's destruction going on out there. - May I ask you a question of them? Assessing cellular health because, you know, I don't have a scanning electron microscope in my home. Unfortunately, most people don't. - Sorry. - How would you assess individually cells? Has it been done? Can it be done? I can't imagine it's very cost effective to do that. But how do we assess level of toxicity at the cellular level? And then of course, the question beyond that would be how do you know, how do you actually physically do this? How do you reverse it? - Yeah. Yeah, so that's a great question. There's many methods. You know, I think the best method is how do you feel? You've entered your own day, you feel great, you feel great, you know, your cells are, that's probably the best way I can give you. But now there's something that I'm pleased that I've got to talk to doctors for years. It's a simple test. It measures something called non-theldehyde, which melodaldehyde is a big eye cryopaciler inflammation. And it's a very civil way. It's more accurate. You've heard of CRK. C-reactive protein as a way of looking at just inflammation. But it's very chiral. It takes you several to be pretty sick and it's laying down the road for CRK. Hello, you just hop to more ranges. But low below high, on the other hand, is more specific for cell membrane itself. As I explained that term itself, I'll just say life and death begins on that membrane. So if we can see that it's a flight measuring melodaldehyde, we can see that when it's something called lipid peroxidation is occurring, where it's an oxidation of that lipid bilayer, two layers of fat. But anyways, melodaldehyde is a place to begin to look if you have silent inflammation. And again, I can create a joke a bit, but it's not. If we look at somebody's symptoms, we can literally determine a lot of someone's cellular health. But looking at somebody's hormonal health, looking at somebody's epithelial stany, sad energy, not saying clearly, sleep well. Those are direct reflections of people's diet health. OK, and how do we now start to-- if you say I'm going to prioritize X, Y, and Z to get you better, obviously, some things are going to have a bigger bang for the buck. Some things are going to be like, I would guess, fine tuning or minor things. What are the-- obviously, just sleep, stop eating garbage, stop drinking alcohol. I would assume. Don't smoke. How do you get people from very sick to less sick? Yeah, look, I think, first of all, we have to go to our number one and back over that. I think my point earlier and partly your point is that to some degree, we live in a very toxic world that's unavoidable. And I said, the people who will win this, when the people who are going to fix their cells and get their cells going, but we need to do it. But let me step back into that from all that and say, there's certain toxins that I reference or refer to as super toxins. They take that virtually impossible. And one of the first things that I teach my doctors to do is evaluate people's lives based on some of these super toxins. Super toxins and I accumulate differently in other toxins. Super toxins have so much devastating effect on our nervous system and our cells that it becomes virtually impossible to up-regulate that cell function to detox. If it becomes impossible to down-regulate the information of the cell to get our lives back, let's just talk about three of those. I was watching this. I'd be like, OK, yeah, please tell me. Because cures what I found where alternative medicine goes wrong and they either don't look for these things correctly or at all, or they detox them very incorrectly. And maybe it's worse by creating redistribution. It's not really, can't we redistribute toxins and become a lot of disasters? Yes, and we need to request that. OK, so let's start into this. I briefly mentioned that a lot of toxins from a mole are devastating. And the way we're building homes, especially in this country, is absolutely causing the problem. First of all, we are building homes terrified to save money on fuel bills for wrapping them in plastic, which keeps moisture in. And when you add water to something called drywall, behind these walls is a keeper. Literally, that's called mold food. Mold feeds on something called cellulose. And that's what paper is. So we're putting mold food in all these walls. Now what we do is add water. The mold spores are there. They're in our environment. But it's literally gross below. It creates biophoxic illness. We call it amplified mold situations when people start getting sick. Look, 95% of all the old homes go a hundred million to people that live in that whole line because they happen behind the walls. And if they were privy enough to say, "Hey, maybe I have a mold problem." You know what they do? They go and they find the whole inspector that comes in. You know what he does? He does a mold test by the air. Useless, 98% of the time, right? Because you don't get a mold spores and a high-f plant. And you especially when it's up in the attic, down at the basement in those walls. It'll seal, it'll smell, it grows where it's tart. It feeds off the thing that we put on these walls where the insulation, right? It's perfect mold too. But anyway, so people are, right now, it's estimated that 8% of homes have mold. Now here's the problem. Some people go since into this virus. Some people are ultrasensors, especially they had exposures growing up for earlier in life. And your sensitivity to that mold becomes problematic. So now you're looking at how's it had? One water damage. And it dried it correctly. It just fits the outside, painted it up over it, all is well, you moved into the house and you didn't know it happened. But the problem is, there's a dormant old problem giving off of ayatoxid. He's biopoxid, absolutely devastating. Returatory hypothalamus, that's the control tower to all of your hormones. That's what controls everything with feedback about how you feel how much salary you're wearing, how much is right now, how much cortisol. All of that in mold devastates that. Did devastate so set, they're called leptin. Leptin is what determines what foods you, how much fat you need to burn if you're hungry, not hungry. Oh, that is devastated the line. The foulness because gold devastating is receptors. You go to form only function, you can't lose weight. One of the symptoms of mold toxicity is massive energy drop. And you can't lose weight despite what you do, right? And frequent urination, because it affects the posterior pituit theory. I'm not going to go off. But the point is, oh, then, desperately you can't have a normal micro above. Despite diet change, how many provide you change? Okay, mold. The second level, let me just work for a one for questions. Heavy mounds. I think that in ulcerative medicine, we get that heavy mounds are a problem. Cupid ears appears. I'm doing a heavy metal detox. Oh, really? What did you do? Add some chorilla, cilantro, satin sauce. And I did that for three months. Okay. These mounds are accumulating from the enduro. And in fact, the number one mercury exposure, and lead exposure is in euro in mom's belly. That's right. The number of solophilates that mom has in her mouth. Those fillings contain 50% mercury. And all our moms have them. Because they grew up in this killing region. I had them too. And I got sick, I'm always sick. The fact is that they have 50% mercury, that vaporized mercury in your brains. But our parents, ladies, the drastic. First study of the show, the number of fillings that you've had in your mouth or your mom, is it how partial to how much mercury that baby got in euro in the brain? That's right. That's where it starts. Oh, the number one source of lead is long, too. Cause this lead is stored in the bottom. And it comes out during pregnancy. It's where normal was going during pregnancy. But that comes to the left. That exposure with heavy mill spurt. And then, and now we'll be partially in our care. They're putting aluminum and jet fuel just to make it more efficient. See, billions of dollars, but it's falling now on us. Okay. The point is, is that the stake is that we think that these weak key letters like cilantro and this and just a sauna in that 10-day cleanse is going to get these metals that have accumulated from the time in Europe, down to the time around 40, 50, 60 years old, hot wash. You have to do chelation correctly at the soil level and check the ID. So the point is, is I've been teaching you guys for 40 years of how we get rid of heavy metals and do it correctly. But for big exposure, these in infections, the only people who had a wisdom to take down in a healover, and now they have an infection at 25 years later, according to the skies, all the sudden sort of poisoning your immune system, causing autoimmune, driving down your immune system. So now you look up with canned beat up parasites and all these other pathogens. And alternative medicine is try kill parasites, kill the fungus, kill the candida, impossible if you have one of these infections. And alternative medicine is needed, isn't even looking for them correctly. Those three, and we say you have to go with every way for it. We just give you a house to where those super toxins should never benefit your detox pillows you're not going to do that. - Just a couple interesting things that you made comment, I like to comment on one. You said you cannot use an IV for, I think for chelation or something along those lines. I'm curious as well how that is. And then the other thing is, how do you assess the presence of these? Is serum blood serum enough or just have to be a biosphere or hair analysis or how do we know that stuff's there? - Those are two great questions. Let's, we'll handle the easel at first. The IV chelation, there's a time and a place for it, especially if you get a chewy exposure, that means if you get a lot of metal at once, IV chelation's great. If you have chronic exposure that I was just discussing from uro to a dolphin, these things are deep into this issue. IV chelation puts a lot of something that really does work. It grabs these toxins that it does away in your towers. And now you start redistributing. Most people, when you read the first stories about any chelation or another chewy chelation, DMPS, whatever it is, what happens is just that. And when at home, then they're by yourself, a concentration ingredient, and they're still releasing and redistributing. Offsets, most of which, end up crossing deeper, crossing the blood-brain barrier and beating the problem for us. It happened to me, it happened to me, because my main issue was my group, left in my brain. Then I had to figure out how to get it out to get my life back. And that's the whole second part of my story that I did. I wouldn't know what I know today if I didn't get through it, trust me. But yes, so I need to show you, chewy layers are a chart of what I teach. Using them would end their half life. And what that means is keeping the level up in the blood long enough so you don't redistribute. And cover chewy layer has a different half life. And yeah, doctors just don't understand this stuff. And they're not even following the TF or how to use these chewy layers. They're telling me where to take it once a day. I take this twice a day, when they have to take it within a half life, maybe three times a day, whatever you have for a fist. But yes, but I want to say this, chewylation is not even how you get rid of heavy metals. Without up railing, you started with a conversation here. These detox pathways in the cell that are wrote, chewylation and stuff doesn't work. You have to use that as part of getting these fauches out of the body. And it's just part of it. The second part of the question is, how you evaluate for these three big super fauches that I just talked about? They say they're infections. If we start backwards here, the ten infections are something now called cone knee, C-O-N-E, E-P-A now. Cone beans are in every city right now, I'm thick in the United States, because of many different types of messes you use them for different things. But it's a 3D x-ray cast down that can look at the jaw and see these loosened seeds. And then we're able to determine if there is a competition high, they're not be careful, because most of them just don't know how to read cone knee. They're not trained on, that's not any kind of any dentist, it's just not part of their training. Or they read for what their discipline is and not for cavitation, A.K. infection. We're going to have to send it to one that is trained in reading an interview. And if it has the correct software, you can see in a 3D way around this loosened seed and then tell where the infection is. So that's the way to determine that. And by launching this would be a place to start to ask for that type of test. And then we don't have a room to doctor, growing the room to death style country. We utilize to read them and they do it virtually for around the country. And if you contact my thing about it for operations hand, you can utilize some of the deaths that we lost. And then to determine the mold, that is a big challenge. Because right now in our space, alternative space, I'll say it that way. They're using a urine test. It's a biotoxic urine test that in my doctor group, we test it. And the bad news is that it's identifying more food to learn eye retloxins from moles and food that it is environment. Now, when we tested it, we did notice that if someone would fast and not eat for a day, that test got much more accurate. Two days it became even more accurate for where it would detect more care more moles than food more moles. Although that is an indicator of that test, it's about perfect. There's a test called a VCS test. Visual contrast sensitivity test that we utilize with idyllic braider act. And each other on now, and a guy that we just shared, we made it that test popular for a detect and plyotoxic 8K moles. It's a visual test. It doesn't look at a cutie, meaning your ability to see, well, you have to rule that out. If you use glasses, you have to use them. But then it looks at contrast sensitivity, which when you're in a mold exposure, it gets crushed. You literally fail the test. So that's the way we determine that. Heavy metals, no perfect test. Because most heavy metals, are heavy metals that are tingling in each tissue like the brain, birth tissue, it's a neurotoxin. And there's no test for not my eyes to determine that. That said, the one who utilizes a challenge test, that's the one that I actually utilize and said, man, we'll stick on accumulating a lot of heavy metals, which was very abnormal, but it's taking a cutie layer correctly and looking into the urine. It's not perfect. It doesn't tear what's in the brain, but it is where we start. - Got an interesting. So given that 80% of the houses are affected with mold, there's aluminum particle floating in the air. Obviously, most people should have at least some exposure to this stuff unless you live on the top of the Himalayas somewhere, perhaps you don't. What percentages of people do you think actually their illness, whether it be diabetes, whether it be heart disease, whether it be mental health illness, are these things contributing to outside of what we have the usual thoughts that we think are causing these diseases? Are these things contributing to them? Are they the primary reason for many things? Or what do you think's going on with that? - That's another great question. I'm so glad you asked that because the answer is, I believe the majority of things that we're seeing a lot of today is the contributing factor. Listen, I presented it with diabetes. I should do it well. There's any lot of diabetes that my argument was, and I was going through the studies that most diabetes is actually more toxic driven than diet. And a struggle ball say in the sense that we think of diet is just, hey, you need to make process cars. That's the issue, and there's truth to that. You and I would agree on that. However, it's more complicated than that. When you look at groceries, ideally, which I spend a lot of time, they'd eat 20 or 25% more carbs than we do, and yet their incidence of the diabetes and what you don't see in Italy, is fat people. You know the tourists from the Italians right away. So we notice more than just carbohydrates, right? The carbohydrates are cleaner. They're ancient. We, they're using a word on eating stuff. I agree that it is absolutely different. They're not spraying glyphosate, just chemo that's leading to big carton diabetes. Stephanie Seth, a senior scientist at MIT, she was one of the first show. Glyphosate as a driving factor of diabetes, they don't have that on their brain and their pasta in Italy. So that's just one chemical. But I went through and I showed a lot of studies that chemicals, and I explained this a little bit when we draw it, they do it, the resonance better. So I can say this in the beginning of that. Here's a cell, if I draw a circle. Every cell has these receptors. Okay, these are hormone receptors. So we could put thyroid hormone, even if the blood level is normal. It has to still attach to ways with sectors. We get into the cell and that works. And we throw a barrier in fat as well. Insulin is another hormone that has to attach to a receptor. And when that happens, all is rough. And we're familiar with insulin resistance. That means that you're 20 of insulin out here, just like thyroid hormone. But resistance means it's something blocking it and resisting its action in the cell. And then what happens is we end up getting a diagnosis of insulin resistance or 2.98. So what we're not asking is what's driving? Slurmo resistance in general. The number one driver is toxins by far. Toxins are interfering with these hormone receptors. I could put estrogen here, I could put testosterone, I could put for testosterone, hormone resistance, get an oscillal line with people that'll feel well. And then what are we doing, even an altering message. Yeah, you can see more balance. Making blood levels of thyroid don't matter if we're just around better. But if you're not using the test, we're not dealing with the issue, that's right. We think if they're thyroid hormone, they say, okay, yeah, my blood work does look better. My progester will look better. But yeah, I feel better, right? My symptoms aren't blown away. This is the issue, right? So when we look at diabetes, when we look at thyroid resistance, when we look at all these reasons that you set, not heart disease, come on, we know that the inflammation is the cause of heart disease on cholesterol. Inflammation, what's driving inflammation mostly toxins. The toxins are driving the hormone dysplasia at the spiral level. Toxins are driving these problems. We lost resistance OPC. I make the argument for toxins. And if we then we link OPC to diabetes, OPC, the heart attacks, strokes, the number one killers, now we built some, I think, toxicity is the issue. And I believe it is, if you look at the rise, what happened? If you look back in tensions, find the distance somewhere in social media pieces, look at it back in the 1930s, in ratios of six, you don't see fat pea. We're eating tons of water, which was better than the vegetables we're eating today. They were about to change attention. They had exercise by no means. It's more of a catcher by looking at France and Italy today as some of the other countries, we're not seeing OPC. But what are we seeing in the most toxic countries? Massive OPC, massive, right? And that's what happened after World War II when a chemical revolution started. And all of a sudden, all of these chemicals went into everything that we do. And importantly, you talked about the plasma, you talked about for a couple of weeks, we did a top around heavy metals. And what happened? She was about fatter, the world got sicker, and we had another hormone problems. - Yeah, I think toxins were at the top. - When I look at, I don't disagree with you, particularly the things about the various hormone resistances. And there's clear data that there's not just insulin resistance, there's insulin, every hormone has a receptor and every receptor is modifiable, good or bad. - When I look at how our body takes in external things, our gut is the largest interface. It's the whole, the tube from our mouth to our anus is external to our body. 70% of our immune system results are, it's a semi-permal membrane. Our skin is largely in the job, our skin is to keep stuff out for the most part, it's impermeable to most things. And then of course, our lungs. And so, maybe mucous membranes you could argue with the surface here is quite small or so. Where do you think, obviously, I think like, when I look at that, I say, the biggest surface area is what's going on in the gut, so the gut has to be extremely important in this. But how much, there's people that like, do I worry about the deodorant I put on my body? How, relatively speaking, where would you say the biggest exposure to toxins are coming from? At least on, I guess there's a cronicity, if you're exposed to it every day all the time, it's always around you, it's different than if you episodically are exposed to it. So, if you could say, where do you think most of the toxins are coming from? How are they getting into our body for the most part? Yeah, to your point, I think many of them are coming in through our lungs, which goes right into our bloodstream. Think about when you shower, right? If we just talk about chlorine, right? Chlorine is in our water supply, as well as fluoride. Those are two thyroid disruptors. The people go, all right, if they die, I don't drink chlorinated water. Most people still are, they're still drinking chlorinated city water, right? But let's talk about healthy people that are. But when you shower without having a whole water filtration unit in your house, I did a video on a situation where I put chlorine water over here and filtered water here. And then I tested it, showed chlorine, showed the test. There it is, chlorine. Put my hand in the water for 30 seconds, pull it out, retested, no chlorine. Well, where did the chlorine get? What we're writing in me, they say a 10 minute shower is equivalent to drinking in 10 glasses of chlorinated water, right? It's because you're breathing it in your lungs, in your absorbing in your skin. Oh, yeah, there's lungs directly in the blood. It's getting rid of the blood. Okay, again, fluoride, these chemicals are crossing right through it. And we have the guy exposure. We're eating all these foods. I just mentioned that criminal lifacy, which in this country, they say it's 60% of the rainfall is being used on most of our foods that apply, unless you're buying cure or gag. So let me expose down again, in your, in Italy, they've outlawed this chemical because of the devastating effects toward gut. It opens up our gut barrier. And by the way, Sean, I don't know where you are on the plant toxin tank. It's very popular today. Avoiding lactants, fountains, foxalies. These things should not cause problems in healthy humans. Why are they? Plants haven't changed, humans change. For now, people go over it as he saves it. And I feel better, of course you do, 'cause your gut is wide open. It's not a leptin crawl. It's a toxic issue, right? Glyphacy, at the head of the class, is being straight on air. They know it 'cause of the dead barrier and allows these toxins to just flow through a normal electric. No longer, autoimmune is going through it, going crazy. So, yes, of course, that we're doing these exposures, all of those alleys. This process here, and it's just something that I show and teach. I talked about the cell. My five Rs is what we start applying. All of how we start up-regulating the cell to start doing what it was designed to do. Toxins start moving from that cell. Problem is, you said, that's, you said, how do we, don't we have to worry about redistribution of toxins while you're detoxing? The answer is yes. So, what you have to do is, this is where you use chelators and binders as outside the cell, because most of them can't get in the cell. So, things like DMSA, DMPS, EDTA, I mean, there's many different binders, and I'm a fan of all of them, even some I develop. But the point is, they work out here, because when we start fixing the cell and we start moving these toxins out, we better bind them to something. Otherwise, they start to redistribute throughout the body. And that's not good, they end up in your brain. Many of the toxins end up in your liver. Here's the problem there. They bind up to something called bile. And you end up with what is called toxic bile complex, the hepatic diliars, sludge is what it's called. But here's the problem. Bile was used for digestion that got, and it ended up dumping in your gut. So, now we have this toxic bile that is inflaming our gut. Here's the bigger issue. In the lower intestine, the body's designed to re-exort that bile back to the lower. You know why it does that? It doesn't want to take the energy to re-create it. So, it re-absorbs its lard, but guess what? That toxic bile brings those toxins right back to the liver. And it's called auto-intoxication. And when people have re-heat gut, you're leaking toxins directly from the gut, and even that bile return. Well, this is where we use binders. We use binders in the gut to protect from that auto-intoxication. We use keylators outside the cell to protect from redistribution from the cell when we start fixing those pathways. Process is what I've taught for 20 some years. It works. Can I win the lead? If I didn't get sick. I'm sorry, but he has some limited capacity to detox. He has one of the jobs of the liver, our kidneys, excrete things. I suspect there are things that we can do. Life's all wild stuff, it's like, you mentioned sauna, you may be exercised, maybe actually sleeping. How much of a role is that? Like I said, I guess if we were to turn the clock back a hundred years where we didn't have crap in the air, would that have been, we have sufficient resources innately to deal with this stuff. So we're just at a point where it's so overwhelmingly more that we can handle. Yeah, that's the point, right? Matter of fact, I get a maze. I just said this the other day. I'm amazed at the bodies and intelligence that kind of put in our body to heal. It was zillions. It's pretty amazing. It really hits. That's your point. Yeah, we didn't need, back in the early 1900s, it was like people had to worry more about infection and different things with that sort of thing. We did a lot of toxicity and diseases were very different. But the fact is yes, our bodies have the ability to deal with it. The liver's overwhelmed, your cells are overwhelmed, the gut is overwhelmed. And that is why we're seeing the massive amounts of health problems that we're seeing. And again, reversing what we just said, we have to limit what we're coming in. Of course we did, and we have to up-regulate our bodies' defense against it. You do that, you get your life back where you stay healthy, one of the two. Let me delve into maybe controversial waters here a little bit, but we have obviously a large presidential election coming up, various candidates. We have a lot of environmental issues that are probably driving us, whether it's manufacturing, whether it's fuel in the air, whatever. Do you see any sort of potential to lessen the toxic burden on society? Can we do that? Do you think that's going to happen? Or is this going to continue to get worse as it has been? And we're just going to be left with, try to plug the holes. You have yachts going here, I appreciate that. Then in the risk of always losing half of our viewing audience. Excellent. Yeah, lovely be cautious. But here's the year or two, anything. And I say this to my dear friends on the left or the right. It's, we have this green moon that is very frustrating to me. Because it really doesn't get to the call of why humanity is sick. I think all of us, both sides of the island, are very, that we want a clean planet. That's not what the debate. The debate is what's causing it, oftentimes, the debate is what we should do about it, bringing the debate is a lot of political driving things that we, some people think of the solution that aren't the solution yourself. They're a lot of the debate. But I think that nobody would debate the fact that we want a clean planet, right? How we get there a whole other story. The first shame thing for me is, is that, yeah, we need to make better choices for our platform about us. What about our kids, right? It's, it's the worries of planet over here or whatever it is that climate change or is it the worry right now that we are toxifying our kids from over everything. And I don't do it. I could make this even go more controversial when we could talk about we still are on the vaccine, we are on this problem at the collapse. How do we get a chance? But I think both sides need to settle around that. It's, we have a problem for children. And it is the level of toxins. Look, the green movement is not talking about the local plastic in humans, you know? They say, no, I think, again, I don't want it in the world and there are waters here. But it's not talking about chemicals and forever chemicals are being put in your cosmetics and everything that we're using. It's not talking about homing homes safer. It's not talking about any of that, but we should. That's where the conversation is to go. Yeah. And I, like I said, 80% of the homes or whatever have, most homes, my home has drywall in it. You got to knock down all the homes and build it with someone. That's not practically, maybe new constructions, you could say, and then there's, do we get rid of plastic? And then there would people say, what are you going to use instead? And so you got, you see this, how do we, it's a shift that would have to take, I would guess a generation at least, maybe two, to do that. But there has to be a starting point, I would say. Yeah, no. Awareness is first. I think the awareness of plastic is happening. And then, again, if there's something that's good, it turns out of the whole green movement is plastic is bad for the environment. Plastic's worse for us. But again, they work together. Can we, and so we need to drive down plastic and use other things, right? But for chemicals and other heavy metals and all the other form of disfarky chemicals that would be exposed to also need to be addressed. Yeah, there's an education that happens, but what can we do at the meantime with our families? We need to just limit. We need to limit it. For awareness in anything, it's poisoning you and your families. For awareness in your detergents, you go right into your skin, your hormone disfractors. Make better choices. Defragance your house. Deep plastic as much as you can. Right, D, P, A's, which are forever chemicals and everything that we're putting in in our audience. Let's start with you in the family. Worry about that, right? And then, we need to really understand. My mission is to upregulate self-function because that way we can deal with it. We can deal with some level of toxicity if our cells are working. That's my mission. That's why I got sick. That's why I called the brain. And right now we have a massive growing group of people who are hormone disregulated from hormone resistance driven by toxins. What can we do about it? Read from Worry about our children right now. Yeah, one thing you'd met, you'd talk about toxins from vegetables destroying the gut or contributing to problems. And I do agree with you. I think we should be able to tolerate more than we can. And I think our gut has been destroyed by the horrible, not just the food and stuff in the environment. But all the crap they put in the food, the flavorings, the emulsifiers, the on and on, the different product preservatives. So we have this situation here. And then of course we're like, even if we have the willpower to make changes, say locally here in the US or even your local community, you still have the rest of the world that is still probably engaging and all the stuff. And it distributes throughout the world pretty quickly. So it's one of those things where it's a tough situation to deal with, for sure. Is there anything, like you'd mentioned, get the fragrances out of your house. Obviously you can switch to glass. I set a plastic, which I've largely done in my own particular life. But what are there any other things that are relatively easy fixes that people can do? I don't know what you have in your house and probably have access to more resources than many people do. But what are some other easy things people can do? Yeah. I think we need to worry about our air and our water in our homes, getting a point of service, water filtration unit, in our own unit. And people said, "Don't take out minerals. You're not going to have to get minerals from water. You're getting minerals from food." And so, it's cheap. It works. It takes out the chlorine, the fluoride, and most of the drugs that are in the water and the plastics and all the chemicals from plastics. It takes you out. If you get a floor to get, spend a two-ground, a whole house water filtration, get it. Because that's obviously showering in, but you're washing your dishes and your clothes in, which is affecting that. Worth the investor. Fade touching your air. There's something going up. An interview will turn better later, ERVs. I think every house, they should need law that they're built with these ERVs. What they do is they write fresh air in and stale air out, give remote building homes so tight. It becomes a toxic, human environment for mole growth and toxic accumulation. Commercial buildings, it's law that these systems have to be in there. In our homes, it's not. Put on it, and you can do it for a thousand bucks. And ERVs, I'm telling you, they will change your living environment for the better. If you care for that, always create some air circulation. Graduate window. I had to close this window. But I always keep your practice. There's construction after making noise. But I always have frost ventilation in my house. Just letting fresh air in is very important, just the way we go house. So there's just two things that you can control right away. And of course, look, if you can't afford organic, get a line in Google, the dirty dozen. Avoid them. Don't buy them. In order to buy organic in the dairy dozen, and eat from what they call the clean 15 years, and you can Google that. And here's the fruits and vegetables. They're very much clear. You're very just stay on carnivore diet. And you'd probably buy it as a tool that I've used, caught my dog for three years before it came and go. Because the only with inflamed guts, and people who can't do climate toxins, and the toxins that plants bring in, go in carnivore, get some big deal for people. And then again, I think it's one of the healthiest foods on the planet. It's about the most meat, and what really people are lacking today. Meat cares. But anyways, again, maybe more you and I disagree, is I don't believe we should stay in a carnivore diet. I utilize carnivore diets, keto diets. I moved in and out of different diets, and I believe every culture did not. I'm sure many people might disagree with you. Yeah, but, yeah. That's just why I learned it. Promote a carnivore diet. I pretty promoted as a therapeutic tool. And do it too long to get fixed. And then if you choose to add something back in, that's fine. Some people choose not to, and I think that's fine too. Yeah, so we line up. You're in the world. I was teaching keto diets for any many years. But I always said, first of all, it's not diets in the box state. Second of all, I always said, you have to stay in them every day. Yeah, there wasn't science back then on that. When I was teaching these things, I was just reflecting what ancient cultures did. He lived in and out of these diets. These diets were very important for their microbiome, creating a diversity diet change of something I called diet variation by teach on how important diet variation is. Times of these, times of them. I think fasting became very popular. I haven't been teaching during fasting since the 1990s. Now it's very popular, but people are fasting too much. Now I go to these people where I like the feasts. This is important, it's fast. You see these people are intermittent fasting too much. They're in a cat at all of the state. So anyways, diet variation, changing diet to feasts and fanistates is a strategy that I teach my comrades on how to get people well. Like we're almost out of time, unfortunately, share where people can go, find more information if they're interested. Yeah, you know, I did a webinar in a lot of these concepts. If you get a pop-up program.com, you can watch that. It's free. It's amazing. It's amazing. Oh, actually, it's just put out. So that's incredible. And my Instagram, just DR, and then pop-up. P-O-M-P, that's Instagram, and they'll treat you to all the things. All right, man. Thanks, you. I appreciate your time and your expertise and good luck to you. And I know we're all in it together, trying to save the world one person at a time. Hopefully, thanks, Dr. Pump. Yes, sir. Great interview. Great question. Thanks, sir. Take care.
