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They were on to send their tweet and everyone's going to absolutely bananas. He's absolutely said fuck all in the tweet. Boy, now this is how we roll now. As you know, this channel don't pretend to know anything. But when someone says something, we'll have a little chat about it. I'm just delighted to be joined by Kev by actually Amboy Chris and I'm going to try me best to make this show 44 minutes, which you know means an hour and 10. So strap yourselves in. Kev, I come to you first. The wheels are starting to move. Someone's trying a bit of WD-40 on the wheels of this transfer window and it looks like Julian Alvarez is off to let go Madrid for £81 million and there's a pretty movement going on. We're going to live up here in a bit, but does that Alvarez thing kick off things and you know yourself? One kicks off the other. That's how it usually rolls. I hope so. Look, credit where it's due. It's a hell of a flip for Man City, first of all. They brought him in for relatively low fee and they're going to get a nice profit out of it and it leaves a hole in their squad, a big hole, because Julian Alvarez played quite a bit of football last season. So it's something that they're going to have to address in the summer and it'll be interesting to see which way they go, but hopefully that should be the one that kicks off a couple. Cana Gallagher as well, that one is still up in the air apparently, the move from Chelsea to Atlanta. Can I always say that? Let's have a nice time. I seen this thing where Colin Gallagher was like, "Atletico Madrid set a time limit on Colin Gallagher to make his decision and he made that decision with one minute to spare." And I was like, "Hold on, was he sitting in a fucking room?" And we're like, "You know one of these digital clocks that counts, they're not the red ones and just counting down, boom, boom, you can hear his hair beating shit." So when is the minute up? Is it a really long fucking minute if it's still up in the air? To me a deal, if you were a buying club, if you're a fan of a buying club and a player was like that, acting like that, I'd be running a mile, I've been running a mile for 34 million pounds. That's a serious, I mean, look, people got lost in running themselves last summer with 100 million pound transfers, 34 million pounds is a chunk of change in any market. So to have a player dealing around like he is over a move to what is a club who are going to be challenging potentially for the legal title, potentially could go deep in Europe. It's mind-boggling to me, but it just signals, does he really want to leave the UK? Does he want to leave England? Probably not. Ideally, he'd love to stay at Chelsea. Well, if he doesn't, he just says to Chelsea, "I'm not going there, thanks very much. I'll take my money every week, I've two years left on my deal and I'll stay here if I have to." And that's the question, isn't it? Does he have that character in him? Is he that type of character to want to just stay and take a wage? I don't think he is. But you see, that's not the thing, he can go with that line. But Chelsea can't. Yeah, Chelsea can't go around. Chelsea can't go around. Right, we're going to have to take, we don't want to take 24 million off of a UK-based team. But do you see the picture going around? Did you see the picture going around with Chelsea squad? Yeah, with the full shot. He couldn't fit them all on the bleeding page for folks. You had to boy it in 4K and stick on an 8D inch hook and TV just to see it. It was phenomenal. If anyway, you know what, it's literally like, you used to get your Sunday paper and you double it out. It was a pull-out spreader that's all for us. It's fucking huge of us. Do you have a print-out on the side of a building for people to access? Chris, you're having a lovely time here now where I'm acting the bollocks, you see, which are 22 total emoji boys, Spanish player incoming, all this sort, or the League of player incoming, but in all seriousness, you know, this sort of Alvarez stuff that happens, Conor Gallagher looks like it. Well, we don't know. When the minute is up, we'll know what's happening with Conor Gallagher. But it's starting to move, it's starting to, it's starting to just grease itself a little bit. Oh, you see anything earlier where Matt Goldbridge, like saying that Manchester is going to so go and sand the bear, go ahead, and I was like, this is not genuine. I thought this is an aortic, someone's doing any here, but it's genuine, isn't it? Yeah, it's genuine. I think it's like the telegraph, the telegraph was like that there, reporting it's an alternative because they didn't want to pay the fee for, you know, I think they're about 10, 15 million apart and they don't want to, they don't want to go any higher. So which means they'll probably pay an extra 20 million in about six weeks, so, you know, what they're like. It's a good fun, listen, I'm sure at some point, it will look worse on players. I mean, some of the journalistic in Saranfield was hilarious because Lippler working behind the scenes, I've assured Lippler will sign somebody. We think it'll be in the field that I'm probably a forward. Yeah, OK. My favourite loan from today was they've now identified a target. As if, right, as if the target committed some sort of crime, they weren't too sure who it was, right? And they had to put, like, the louder players up in a line up and bring Aaron to start coming ago. Yeah, it was him. It was him and they go, ah-ha, we've identified the guy. Like saying it. Like saying it. Like, it's an excellent spreadsheet going green, they went, let's go green, go for it. It's like, it's like, again, I have to caveat this way, Liverpool are going to sign a couple of players, really, and may have been, right? But honestly, like this thing, Liverpool have now identified a target. As if you were sitting, all sitting around for fucking six weeks and Richard Yu was ringing Aaron a slot and going, what do you reckon? Any targets? No, I haven't talked about anyone here. I'll go on and ring you tomorrow. And then Aaron a slot rings him the next day and says, anything, no, I haven't talked about anything. I'll go on, listen. Look, how nice we can to ring your money. And then one of them rang someone, the other, and went, I have it, I fucking have it. I know who you should go for. It's deplorable, the stuff that's coming out, like it's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, I don't know what jokes are done to death, but just for the few, could they resign Henderson? Because they'd just be fucking for it. No, they can't. No, no, no, no, listen, I don't mind people getting annoyed, you know, I'm all with people if they get annoyed at September 4th and we don't sign anyone. But honestly, honestly, like all this fucking, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm fucking with Jordan Henderson back. Like, that's over the line. You know, you've got to have a line with that one. No, it was the fucking answer. Actually, we're all trying to, I love the survey. We're all trying to guess now who the player might be. If there is a player, who the target they've identified. Now, Aaron Slott and Richard Ewes didn't know out in the bedroom until today, but they I do a probably watching videos and go, "He's a really good player. What's his name? Having a fucking clue?" And I took them weeks to find his name, and nobody found his name, but everyone's trying to guess. I'm going to give his all a go with this. Actually, I personally think the pre-season has gone really well, I think. The way the midfielders play it, a tackle noise has gone really well, but when I look at it, I'm both playing out from the back and a little bit of defensive walk when the other team has the ball, I think we're a little bit shy, and I think, and those limitations have been exposed, I think, in what he can do very, very well, and the way we want the play just doesn't marry up or each other. So I've come around to, "We do need somebody in that position," but, "Come on, I'll give you the force. Go, start trying for some names." Maybe you just like to see. I mean, I think the three, I have three, and it's not rocket science, they're out there. I think it's Ederson off of Adalanta. I think it's Zumendi, who's kind of like the flavor of the month right now after his stellar showing at the Euros. And I think it's Varela, who is the more kind of defensive option. Those three all kind of fit that 25-year-old-ish age bracket. I think they all have a pretty sizable chunk of professional appearances to go by, and they all kind of offer something a little bit different from one another, and I think the reason I wrote those three down is because I'm still not quite 100% sure what slot wants to do with this third midfielder. I don't know if he wants, I don't know if he was putting our forward-thinking midfielders like Saba's Lie and Grab and Birch in there to test them, or if he actually wants like an eight/six in that spot, I don't know if with different personnel that midfield looks a little bit differently, and he goes sort of more traditional six. So those are the three names that I'm going to throw out there. Like I said, it's not breaking news or anything, but those are the ones that I have my eye on. Well, so far, the far ones have been a disgrace. You haven't read any breaking news, you haven't told you for definite worse on in this player, that playable. Kev, I like the three names you give them by the way. I will throw the Dutch fella from AC Milan into the mix. I don't know why he came into me here earlier, but I'm going to throw me there's a renders or renders. But Kev, me and you were chatting about this last week, I argue when I think it's probably the one by award on the show, and that's just half the cost. Strong discussion. Yeah. When you're talking about, I just isn't from Atlanta, you have Barella that you're talking about. And you're talking with Zuma Mendi, when you're looking at them players, they are different than the things they do. Some of them are just breaking things up, some of them are taking things over, some of them are going to go with their face and their own goal, that sort of thing. Again, it comes down to what Aaron has a lot of wants, if he's bringing this midfield room, what does he see him doing? And I'm going to say again, Kev, I'm hoping they bring someone in that's really good facing their own goal. That's one. And to somebody that sees danger and snuffs, I think if you can find a player that can do that, and I'll ask an awful lot, if you can find a player that does that, and marry it in with what else we have there, whether that's deep on his own, double pivot, whatever the fuck you want to call it, if you can find somebody that can do that, all right, all you think the rest of this midfield are going to run a muck out of our people? They're going to run all over people. And when you throw Elliot and you throw Salah and you throw Jot and Nunez, whatever it is, if you get someone like that, Kev, I just think, when we don't run against these teams and preseason, the whole pitch opened up where you're going, there's definitely not 22 players in this pitch, because there's too much space, there were people who have done it, there's way too much space. What names have you got in your head? And is that the sort of player? And we're talking nonsense, basically. No, I liked, I said it last year and I'll stick by what I said, I want to see a footballer first and foremost, someone who's comfortable on the ball, keeps a simple, takes a ball under pressure, and doesn't give it away. If you're already capable of doing that as a midfield player, you're going to have a bit of a defensive head on you anyway. Zuberman D would be perfect, if you could get him out of speed, big if. Reinders did himself no harm whatsoever in the Euros. Whenever I watch the Dutch play, he's really comfortable on the ball, he looks after the ball and he's got a decent range of passing and he's a typical Dutch midfielder. The irony is I don't think he'd have been in the squad if the young was fit. So it could just be the star as a line for him and he could be available at a reasonable fee, you wouldn't know. When I came across today, I was just set up before the show. He's currently with Spain under the Olympics and he's at Atlético Madrid. A young fellow named Pablo Barrios, 21 years of age, plays in a double six for Spain, plays central midfield for Atlético Madrid. That season was his first full season at Atlético and he played some like 45 games. If you're coming through, that's Atlético set up in central midfield, playing that many games, you're going to have a bit about you. You're going to be aggressive and you're going to be good on the ball. That's the kind of thing, is he the Zuberman D before he became Zuberman D type of thing? Is that the type of player that Liverpool would look at rather than look for the ready made player, would they look for someone like Pablo Barrios coming at 21 and looks to have an awful lot about him and someone who can kick on and really develop? He's really highly rated by the Atlético Madrid fans as well. I just had more of a Q acid, I put his name in in Twitter and just on a search of Atlético fans, just really want this, they were saying about it, they're raving about it and they couldn't wait to see him linking up with Julian Alvarez. It was like wet dream type stuff. So the Atlético fans are really hot on this kid. It would make you think, I wonder if it's possible to get him out of there. He's transfer market value, something like around 30 million, but that's how you could probably get him out for not much more than that, maybe 50. Another one would be really interesting to test would be Barcelona, after the money they're looking to spend on Omo and the fact they don't have money, they don't have much more money to play with, they have a really good young set up, could you tempt them into selling Pedri? Granted the kid has got, he'd be a huge gamble, he's had injury problems for the last year and he was taken out of the euros with a ligament injury that ruled him out until probably the end of this month. But his undoubted pure quality is one of the top midfielders in the world and I wonder if you could prize him or give him out of Barcelona. Is he something that you could test the waters with? If you're thinking of that type of central midfielder who can take the ball in tight areas and work possession, you're really looking at the Liga because that's their bread and butter type of football. That's why I shy away from the Italian league because it's not their game and it hasn't been their game for a long time. I don't know enough about the kid playing in Portugal, I genuinely don't, I don't watch Portuguese football, haven't come across for a lot whatsoever, but at 60 million Euro they're asking for him and I wouldn't be too convinced on that. It's easy to look good in that league and it's a big jump to come from that league to the Premier League. I don't know, I'd be more comfortable looking at a player from the Bundesliga or La Liga rather than Portugal to be honest. We all seem to be mentioned to these players and Chris, I'm going to let you try one or two of me if you want, but we're all looking at these players in order 21, 22, 23, it's an argument here where they go in and go for someone that's 26, 27, 28 and say to themselves we're going to bring someone in here and they're going to go in and they're going to do one, two, three seasons for me and I'm looking at boy Chet, it's coming through, I'm picking up a player in 18 months time that's the success of the Bundesliga we're bringing in now. We all seem to be going for younger players Chris and maybe that's because Liverpool like to do that, Liverpool like to go in at that kind of age range and if it really happens for them, we try to keep them, if it happens for them to a point and you can move them on then because you're trying to get better, you can flip them for good money. Is there an argument there Chris, or are you just going to give me two of our players that are 14 and 15 years of age? I'll probably just see what you've got players, I understand what you're saying though because if you look at the midfield it's lower, low 20s or there's a couple of experienced ones of them, there's nothing in the middle so having that link age would be quite handy, it's just who at age range is realistically available and I think that's the reason why we keep saying the same names because I think it's the same players that we know are available because of release clause or the inklings from press R, clubs would be willing to sell them. I can't really think of it, outside the ones that Ashley and Kevin mentioned there are anywhere else that I could think of, probably making joke ones or just saying let's get some of the lads from Real Madrid, but you know it would be unrealistic, it probably is, as we've been the Averella, someone of that ilk or maybe somebody that is where it would form a Dutch league but the way they're talking is the pulls a high bar, what they've got and it's a high squad, I think that's a bit of a reality check some of our fan bases that the squad isn't, it needs tweaks, doesn't need major overhaul. So I've expected this to be, you know, probably like a name as in like people have heard of a bit of a setup that's an interesting side, that's a good side, I can't see it be like some 18 year old we haven't heard of. Yeah, I agree with you, I think, the thing for me here is that when it comes to say centre backs, right, we're looking at my well, well like praising, throughout the concert as much as we possibly can and so we're looking at a verge of and we're saying if we can get men to extend this deal, he's a great leader, he's nowhere near finished, that's great. We're looking at a canate and we're saying to ourselves right, if you can stay fit or an asset and then we're saying to ourselves what to have to do with your home isn't. And when it comes to, you've quite a bit of scope when you're going if you're sent to have as to what way you want to do this. Do you want to be a blockbuster, do you want to be a young guy that comes in to, you know, makes a matter of spot on the squad but pushes a Gomez up a rung or do you want somebody to bring somebody in and go Roy, no, he's not a blockbuster but he's not a really young lab or he's somewhere in between that's going to challenge and maybe look to succeed very fun, whatever. But there's a lot of scope is what I'm saying. I just think from what I've seen from the football Liverpool are trying to play and from what he has at his disposal, I think he's fantastic players at his disposal. Roy, I think this, the scope for what you're looking for in this midfield side is quite narrow. Quite a narrow scope. I don't think you can go out and go or maybe he can do this. It feels like a very significant sign early on and what he's trying to do. Just from what I've watched, you know, and I'm not saying players can't do a job here or there but if he really wants to nail something early, he goes out and he gets up and he'll bang. That fella plays in midfield every week. It's fantastic. I can put my collars up in the soil and I can put them there in his own and put these two guys ahead and he's just phenomenal and I think that's where the scope is narrowing. And maybe Liverpool when they say these things about, you know, quality and, you know, what we have and what we're looking to do. This episode is brought to you by our good friends at NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. I'm sure by now you've all gotten back into your Sunday routines but they could be even better with NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. You get the most live NFL games all in one place, every game, every Sunday and you can even watch up to four different games at once with multi-view, one of my favorite inventions of this decade. 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He's the actual outstanding candidate if you think about it, right? Joshua Kimich is another one. But Kimich maybe. Yeah, but what I'm saying is if you're looking for somebody that's that perfect age, plays that deep really comfortable on the ball, really got a pop and passes off, falling in angles and freeing up your midfield. Frankie the Young is the one because if you go back to the Ajax team, he was the one that freed up the looks of, not Grand Bridge, the guy that's gone off from, you know, it was fucking deadly before he went to you know, on the bank, yeah, yeah, he freed him up because he played around the back of them and bang here you go, there, there's loads of grass in front here. The problem with him is that wage is just a killer. Now, I don't know if Liverpool come walk a deal where they say to him, listen, we're paying this amount for you, we will give you, we will pay off, you know, a year of your contract or whatever it might be, but a year of his fucking contract is, is colossal money. It's Frankie the Young is the old Stanley candidate when you actually think about it, but the wages is just, it's colossal, unless Frankie the Young is willing to go, listen, I'm willing to take what Liverpool are offering, because I don't like where I am at Barcelona, they fuck me around every summer, I go into Liverpool, this project looks great, I'm going to play. I think that might be the one, but listen. There's two years left in his deal, he's out with an ankle injury at the minute. Yeah. But, yeah, look, no doubt about it, Frankie the Young would be the quintessential perfect central midfielder, but realistically, I don't think any club actually says a base salary of seven hundred and twenty one thousand years a week. I honestly don't see any club allowing that much money to leave their club, leave football every week on that kind of deal. It's obscene, the Barcelona even put them on that wages and I hope they're made to suffer for the next two years and they have to pay every single cent of it. So, that's what it's called. It's worth it for a million a year, I've paid them. Yeah, thirty-seven or half million a year a year, fuck it out. So, 70 million is my contract, though. Well, yeah, you could be a boy who's contacted, 70 million a week. How old are you on the mill? I'm gonna say... Twenty-seven. Yeah, I was going to say it was twenty-three. It was twelve years around, if you're at certain age, you can't actually buy out your contract when you're in the last two years or so. And then you could treat him as a free signing, but you'd automatically have... You'd have to make him the club's top earner and how many backs is that going to put out? Yeah. No, I'm just saying football, I think you'd do it the other time. Footballing wise, yeah, I think... Money wise, it's... Pirella would be another one that would be an ideal boxer box center mid, kimich ideal perfect, world-class center mid. But I honestly think the way that Edwards has worked in the past, the way Hughes has worked in the past, they're looking for the next Joshua Kimich, they're looking for the next Nicola Barella. And they're looking to try to benefit that if we need to sell that player, we can, if you want to keep that player, we're already made for a decade. And I think that's going... I think we're going back to the part of me, it's like, yeah, I'm happy with that. I would say, Ashley, we are talking to me and Chani, we're talking to me about the breaking news about some guy from Argentina, kind of like his name anymore, Soler, players for Lanus, Paragon and Borne, if you look up as a Wikipedia, he's signed for Liverpool already on the 4th of August for £12.1m, which was great. But we are looking at that and Sunday night, we're going, all right, it's a bit of a weird one. But then it looks like Chambers, isn't it, Chambers is off to Wigan? Wigan, yeah. Yeah, I don't know if that's done confirmed or whatever, but I think he might have been there last season, but he's going back to Wigan for what looks like a season long long. And I know that's not massive movement, I left back, but we're starting to see, actually, just that little bit of move, just a little bit, like that only home, the arrive home on Sunday afternoon, and boy, what is it, choose them on, there's a player going to go alone, you know, let's start the way. So that's how quick things can happen. Just on the Liverpool players that you've seen over the tour, I'm watching them in the three games, is there more of these loans coming, or do you think Liverpool are just going to end up waiting till the end of the window where Liverpool decide no more loans, but we've got a good deal on this guy, we're going to let him go. Because there's quite a few names that you could band you around for that sort of area, you know, that's what really happened to them. Yeah, I mean, there's youngsters there that, you know, like I think Owen Beck goes back out on loan, unless a significant offer comes in. I think players like McConnell, who we didn't see, goes out on loan. I think Bobby Clerk probably goes out on loan unless we get a substantial fee in for him. I think the ones that are iffy are Carvalio and Vanderbilt, I don't, I think if those come in with a significant chunk of change, they get sent out permanently. I think they're kind of, they're the ones that are on the cusp of like being done. I think Ben Doke is another one that could go on loan. I think he needs to find the right club that's going to match up with what we want from our winger and give him game time. So yeah, there's plenty of, there's plenty of players there that are going to be moving. You know, I think with the players coming in, like so many of them, they almost feel like Goldilocks players because, because we're very blessed at this moment to have an academy that is doing so well, we kind of have a good chunk of players that are sort of on that up and coming place. So the idea of buying project players, I like it and I'm all for, you know, upgrading the academy and that's kind of what this left back feels like or that, you know, the link to the left back. I have no idea if it's actually valid, you know, but I do think when we're talking about specifically the center back position and specifically the sixth position, I don't think we can afford a project. I think we have that already in Kwanzaa a little bit who's more of the finished article and if we wanted a project center back, we'd go with Vandeberg and I think we've got Bechettich who is our project six. So what we need is the person that's between Bechettich and Endo, somewhere right in that little middle Goldilocks zone and that's, I think what's making it so hard for them to nail down a target. Yeah, I'm fully with you, I'm fully with you, that's what I'm saying, the scope, the scope that's there just narrows from me every time I watch Liverpool play. You know, if Liverpool were a bit more direct in what they were doing from the back, I would say quite a wide scope, Endo were a bit more ability on the ball, but when I'm watching and watching and going now it's so far a meal from Endo, you know, and if they keep them in the squad, they keep them in the squad for certain scenarios and certain games, for him. Especially when they do this thing where they seem to retreat and say, "Roy, come and beat us and Endo can fit in there because it's all a nicking in, win a ball," you know, the sort of way. But I think, I do think it's narrow right down and then, you know, you look at our own back Celtic of being heavily linked to them and Celtic may have money to spend fairly soon because Brighton, apparently, are going to go in with a massive bit from Matt O'Royley. Again, I think Brighton are doing some good business there if they do get him. I think he just looks fantastic football with me and I don't really care if he plays for Celtic. I've watched them in the Champions League for Celtic against good soil and he's being really good. So, Brighton, I think, are doing a good deal there. But if they get 20 million for him, that'd be a big deal for Celtic, but they'll probably get about 10 of that back to spent. And that's how Celtic walk. Beck might be one of those that are interested in chambers going alone. Then that leaves you really with, you know, this link from in Argentina, yeah, I have got Simicash, you have got Robertson. Maybe he leaves that another season before he makes a presses a button on it. But if he leaves that another season presses a button on it, you're going from somebody that can learn for a year and maybe take over to somebody that comes in and really has to go and challenge and to go and challenge Andy Robertson and even Simicash to a point, you have to be really good and you have to be on it from day one. And it's a descent to half stuff is, it's a curious one for me. It's probably the most curious one when you see those, Kev, you know, we're seeing these players and I think it was actually mentioned, McConnell, Bobby Clark, one or two orders. If they're going to be long, you'd expect them to go quite quick on the long front. If they hang on a little bit longer, or the looks of say, even a Fabio Carvalio, it's moving towards, they're staying or they're just waiting for the really poised to get rid. I think one thing to look for is look out for his results in the Champions League qualifying rounds. That could free up money for Southica Rangers if they guess, if they go deeper, if they can get into the knockout phase proper. Same with some European clubs that they might take a look at a player towards the end of the window. I think we wouldn't be in any mad rush. We've seen today with Luke Chambers, it looks like the club have no problem letting players go to Wiggin, they like to set up there, it's close to Liverpool as well. I think they'll look for the right club if it's going to be loans, and if it's going to be a sale like the Southampton bid for Carvalio, if Southampton come back in with an improved offer, maybe it's one they'll look at. But in fairness, Carvalio did himself no harm in that pre-season, and depending on how he trained and his attitude around it, same with Seth Van de Berg, depending on how he trained and what the manager thinks, it ultimately is going to be down to him whether to stick or twist. We'll see how it goes, but I think those kind of decisions are going to be made towards the end of the window, when clubs realise exactly the type of money they've got available to them and who they want to go for, but I think they'll have options, they won't be short of player, I mean another one could be Leeds. If Leeds are looking to bring in a proven player who they know that can do a job in the championship, having got money in from some good sales and have the backing of Red Bull now, that they could be looking to seriously invest in young talent, and Carvalio could be at one for them, who knows? The thing is, I was listening to the Enfield rap after the, you know what you're talking about, Ben Dolk and I think they made a really good point. We always want to find the really, the really meal for them, and when it came to Ben Dolk they made the point, you probably want to send him somewhere where that team's best attacker. He's not a guy that's sitting on the bench coming on making an impact. Chris, do we have quite a few players like that now, do we have quite a few players that, you know, in years gone boy, you would send them over alone, let, you know, we have this team where we have to guarantee, we want guaranteed gain time for them or the club gets fined or the thing goes back and the player goes back, but are we at the stage now where we send out these players alone and it's going to look, no, he has to play a few, he's going to be our best player. It's not the level of loan, we have to look for for these players because they still never pull players. People seem to forget them when we send them along, how he's gone along, he's gone along again. We have to, there's quite a few players here in the roiding, in the likes of Bobby Clark, McConnell, even, you know, a Ben Daug, even if you send the left bucket, his name constantly goes out on my head, he was linked with Celtic a minute ago, back, back, yeah, even if you send them, you have to send them to these things where you go, he is going to be forced to him and the story. Yeah, you do, yeah, because then you get the work out of them. But I think we've got some players who I think could be good rotation options for us, but I think could be used as make weights in other deals. So example is if Lip will do get a deal done for Anthony Gordon, wouldn't surprise me if Carvalio went the other way, as a bit of a sweetener. Also, for Carvalio, that would be a good move for him because he would get regular football, kept getting really excited over this idea. Now he's not, he's getting excited because Carrie Harrington has just won a gold medal for Ireland in the boxing. So she's retiring as a double gold medalist for Ireland. Good for her. Yeah. Good. So come on. Cool. But yeah, that's what I think we're going to do. I think it's why I saw my being held off because I do think some of my bees make weights in other deals, you know, soften to sweeten the deal. So I think Carvalio is going to be using them as a make weight for one of the signings we make that was born surprisingly. If Carvalio is made as a make weight, what clubs out there you're looking at and what players those clubs have, there must be something in your head here if you're saying that to me. Well, mine is the Newcastle thing is send them to Newcastle when you take out to the Gordon. Oh, OK. Roy. Oh, yeah. OK. Instead of like in their mountain quads and then it's gone as now it's Carvalio, you just keep going and going until what you get to go. It's a double person who can play wide football or can play as a 10. I think you get a lot of minutes from Newcastle. I also think they're sort of crowd and the way they play actually would suit it. And I think he's a sort of player that would get crowds excited anyway. And I think he's guaranteed more game-term than Newcastle than he is at Liverpool. OK. Interesting. There's been, like I said, I was, I read something yesterday actually and it's again really curious, right? But it was like Liverpool are linked with the Valencia guy, OK, but the Georgian fellow, Mamma de Fili, I think is his name, something like that. I could have got that completely wrong, but you know the fella, he was really good in the auras. And I was like, wow, and then like, no, he's trying to trade it on a sign of a 20 million. They're going to loan them to somebody for two years and then they're going to bring them back. And that's probably going to Alice in the lab and he'd be number one and all. And people just, is this far the chess Liverpool are trying to play? There are people just so bored that they go, oh, I'm not going to have a Valencia keeper. Link of Liverpool and just make up how they get into the squad. Where are we on this one? I don't know. Yeah. I mean, like he impressed during the euros. I think it's very easy to link impressive people from the euros, again, it's like that flavor of the month thing. But we do have a great goalkeeping department, like if you look at our keepers and, you know, you look at Kelleher, you look at Jarrows' progression, like it's, you know, it's world renowned, I think, you know, and if you wanted to train under Ali and some of these, you know, coaches, I get it as, you know, if he wanted to, if he wanted to do that, we don't have space for him in the squad currently. But I don't know. I mean, Liverpool and Links are just a match made in heaven. And sometimes I feel like people just flip a coin and throw a Liverpool link next to someone's name for the hell of it. They do. That's absolutely do. Now, I have to say, I'm not against an idea of selling the keeper and going, listen, these are insurance in two years time, but Kev, I'm going to come to you because he's a car man playing a golfer and golfer at the moment. I think he's being outstanding in, I think he's being outstanding in the, in the, in the preseason, all of not more than the whole long term. I'm still of the belief that he's the fourth team goalkeeper for probably, and I mean this 40 in Premier League clubs. Keeping them might be a bit difficult because I just think he's, he's really, really, really good. And he probably deserves being number one somewhere else, but do these sort of links make you think Liverpool are planning for a future without Alison, and maybe even without colour. I'd be honest, if I'm colour her, I'm telling my agent to get me out of here now. He's played 10 Premier League games, he's 25. For all of what you said, and I agree with everything that you said that he could play for virtually any club in the Premier League up to the top five or six. He's played 10 games and ultimately a 25 years of age is not good enough. It's not enough. He has to go and play, and he should be the one instigating and pushing for this move. The fact that he's not, I find mind-boggling. But the other, the flip side of it is, Mabidus Ville is very, very good. Sean, who says the next, he's the next one on the list, he's the next one after your Alison's, your Terstegans, court's wall, that he, Sean, he rates him that highly. And I read an article that we're linking him to us for that fee, and then on to Bournemouth on loan for a couple of years, and that get him Premier League ready for when Alison goes at the end of his contract. Well, what does that say to the Cleveland colour? That's what I'm saying. Not only are you, you know, you've been number two to Alison Becker, we've now got his replacement and you can fight it out with him when you're 27, and you might have played 15 or 20 Premier League games by then. I get that, but I think if there's any truth in this, what we're talking about, I think humour's got on the way out, because I think it's the most likely scenario here, is if you're saying, what did you say his name was? Let's call him Mick. Let's call him Mick, right? Let's call him Mick Ville. Mick Ville, right? Milly Ville, right? Milly Ville, right? Milly Ville. If you're sewing in Milly Ville, if there's any truth in Milly Ville, right? To me, it says, look, we know I lose in colour, okay? We're going to lose them. Alison's on the contract in 2027, but what we're going to do is we're going to go, what I'm going to say to ourselves, Alison's still with us. We're going to put Yarrows in there as his number two. We're going to sew in this guy, and when Alison goes, which is more than likely in the next two years, because he won't want to let him go for nothing, this guy is ready to come in and be the number one, or challenge with Yarrows. That's where I think it is. I'll give you another option. I'll give you another option. You sell camera, camera is sold. You bring in this guy, you send in to Bournemouth. You sign Neto from Bournemouth, for a nominal fee, as you back up, keep it with Yarrows, and Neto becomes your number three. He becomes your Adrian, Yarrows is your number two. Yeah, but Neto's not going to go from Bournemouth, number one to Bournemouth. He's at that stage of his career now, where he's not going to be making a move from Bournemouth to be a number one anywhere else, Barre having a step down. He's already played for a big club. He was at Barre Solona. He was a number two, or a number three at Barre Solona, but this could be his last chance of playing at the top club. The only disadvantage is that he's not English, so it takes up a non-home grown slot in your squad. That's the disadvantage of having to sell colour, irrespective of which way you cut it up. If you don't go out and sign a job or English keeper, or promote someone from the youth academy to be your number three, you're losing the slot. Yarrows is 100%, but at the moment, Yarrows is 100%. Yarrows is, and Allison is not, so you could potentially be losing a home grown player, club grown player, and grieving colour. Gaining one back in Yarrows, where you still have to replace Adrian in the squad, and that non-home grown spot that Adrian was taking up, you could have utilised that better elsewhere with an outfield player, you might end up having to utilise it with a job or third choice keeper, or your trust, Petaluga, or Harvey Davis, to be your number three. Yeah, and we haven't seen Harvey Davis at all in the squad. Yeah, I know, but let's be honest about it, since Adrian became number three, he's never for complaint. No, exactly. So, that's the gamble you're looking to take. Yeah, and it's pretty, you know, it's a low stakes gamble to take, if you're your number three. I agree with you, I agree. The second choice keeper is a low stakes gamble, though. I mean, my question would be, are any of you comfortable, you know, in this theoretical scenario, Garrows coming in for 10 games? Yeah, I know from that. That's what Kelleher has done, repeatedly. The reason I'd have no problem with that. The number of games for Champions League as well, so are you okay with that? Yeah, I do. He's done everything that's been asked of him as a goalkeeper. He's gone out, alone. He's won a league, won a league in Cup Double. He's been a backup at international level at the Oros. Still haven't seen anything. I don't think I've seen enough of him where I can talk around here, actually, in 100% say I'm comfortable with it. I'm comfortable with Kelleher, because I've seen him play for a lot of time. I feel like we're in a very weird, unique position right now, where he always gets injured. Yeah. But the thing is, when I look around, we are in a unique situation where Alison gets an injury once a season. I think that's a bit harsh. I think he gets one in '90 and '20, and I think he had one last year. Did he have one the year before as well? I think he's had one every year, maybe not a big one, but he's got something over here. So the thing is, if you're telling me Alison plays all the games next season, you're like, brilliant. Do you know what I mean? But maybe we're overthinking this, that link to that goal in Valencia, the link to the left back in Argentina. It's all a bit what if, what if, what if, and maybe we get- That's what we are. Yeah. I know. And do you know what? Maybe we get to the end of the summer. Alison is there, so is Kelleher. The two left backs are there, you know. I'm pretty sure we were having this conversation last year about Kelleher. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think if we are having a last season, it's probably we're doubling down on this season because of what happened in the season just come. So it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a strange one. But if there was any, if there was any truth in a goalkeeper coming in or being signed for a loan, I would say it would probably trigger Kelleher leaving the club and Yaris comes in as number two. It really is. But having said that, if that was the case and he wear it on something, he would have started Yaris in the free season and given him more of it, you know, so it's, it's, it's a weird one to Troy Reed, but things situation can change very, very, very quickly. Um, I think that's us doing. I think we've done a great job. We really did that fellow Millie Vignelli, which I think is fantastic. Um, we've made so much of a tweet that just said absolutely nothing, which I think we're absolutely amazed at doing that job. We've spoken about a lot of positions. We've spoken about a lot of players. We've thrown some out there and some people in the chat have thrown out some till, but we're not going to let everybody go now and we did do it in 44 minutes and 70 and seconds right at the minute. So round of applause for everybody in the room, because then it's all great. Um, because we're usually here in 24 minutes and now going, well, we're not meant to do that, but now we've stuck to our guns. We've absolutely stuck to our guns. Kevin, anything else before we go? Uh, congratulations Kelly Harrington. Uh, I was cheating during, during, when you guys were talking out, I had, I had it on another screen. Uh, my God, she was over this world brilliant, uh, lots of semi-final and it was a two one, two one fight. She lost a second round this tonight against a fighter who she already only fought once and lost to, was out. I'm not ranked. Annie is ranked one and he's ranked number one in the world and Kelly and just literally the head off. But, and other as he said, in the third round, she was laughing. She was just, this might be the end of my international career. What a way to go out and outstanding Olympian Ireland's arguably Ireland's greatest female Olympian. Um, outstanding athlete outstanding boxer. Yeah, she is Ireland's greatest, um, female Olympian. Yeah. She is. Yeah. I think Rishi that could, could surpass her in her career by the end of her career. But for now, Kelly is, Kelly is number one. Yeah. Chris, anything else before we go? Um, only that, um, it's been announced that Liverpool women are going to get three games at Anfield, uh, next season. Nice. I love you. I love you. Uh, I think they're doing a bit of an offer, um, where you can buy one, one ticket to get, is going to get us to all three games. I think it's like city and I did in the Derby. So good chance, good chance for us to get, to get a chance to get to Anfield. Yeah. You don't really well, I see as well. So hopefully they build on that as well. Um, actually, anything else before we go? No, I'm just looking forward to seeing the team all back together for the first time getting, getting all the international guys back. So hopefully we have something to fill our time other than Ornstein tweets. Yeah. Exactly. Look, there's not more so that I'm filling our time with fucking Ornstein tweets, let's be honest. Um, what was I going to say? Yeah. Chris is reminding me there. Um, so as you know, in the description of this show, there is the link for charities. You can donate to the go for me link. Please do so if you can, we're trying to raise 10,000 euros for our fans apart in field banks and the lawyer house, um, fans apart in field banks, you know, all about them in Liverpool. Uh, the lawyer house is a charity in Dublin that help people that are struggling to make ends. Me, 4,000 Euro each is our target. We're going to keep going until we get to that. And that's no problem. If you can only absolutely do, um, if you can't share it, you know, all the usual. Um, but in the description, there's also a link now to a Premier League fancy football league. Okay. Now this is field, baby. I'm helping them out with it. So if anything goes wrong, for in field, I don't care how you fuck a deal. Do not message me and go, can you ring fill and ask him this? Cause I'm not going to fucking ring him. Right? Let's be honest. So this helps kind of work. We put a link in there. It's a revenue link. And what you do is you click the revenue link, you choose 20 euro and you press send. That sends it to fill. When it's sent to fill, you can then see that you've sent so much to fill. And then you can send fill a message with your email address and your team name that's in your fancy Premier League. He will then email you back with the league and the cold, you can get into the league. And the how this is how the league is going to walk out of that 20 euro 10 euro is going to go into the prize park, 10 euro is going to go to the lower lane hospice. So we get 100 people playing this, that'll be 2000 euro and tall, a thousand for winnings and a thousand for charity. It's a winner takes all there's no four second toward. It's a thousand euros. It's sorry. If it were, if we get 100 players at the 1000 or if we get 200 players, it's 2000 euros. And so on and so forth. There's no four second and toward whoever is the best of the fancy Premier League next season will win whatever is in the pot from the start of the season. We're hoping to get 100 people involved because that'd be a thousand euro for charity and a thousand euros for the winner. So the revenue link is there. Okay. If you have any difficulty and you don't lose revenue, okay, email us. You can email us talkingcup1@gmail.com and we will give you our PayPal details. You can send 20 euros to our PayPal with your team name and your email address. And what we will do is we will forward around the field to put into the pot and he will send you back the link for the league and the court. That's how it's going to walk. It's a private league. Only people that pay will get in. So if you pass the card onto your mates, don't worry about it. Fills weird. He'll check the list every day. He'll check it twice like Sandy does. And then he'll fuck you out if you haven't paid. Okay. So that's how it's going to walk. It's 20 quid across the whole season. You're given to charity and like you said, it's a winner takes also. If you can help out the link is in that description. If you don't have revenue and you want to use PayPal because PayPal is a lot more international than revenue or well, not really but a lot. Some people don't use revenue, a lot of people use your access to PayPal. You can email us, we'll give you the details and we go from there and we get you sorted. So get on board, get your fancy football, Apple, open, get your team together, register the name with the holler, throw 20 quid to fill and you know you're helping charity at the same time. It's a really good idea and yeah, it's going to be, it'll be the crack because you'll be able to see loads of people that watch this show being involved. I think fill is jumping. Oh, I don't do fancy football, but I'm going to throw 20 quid in anyway. I'm just going to put a team in at the start and if they're all fucking injured, if they all do their crucial on the first weekend of the season, I won't win but I don't care because I won't change the team. So that's what we're going to do. If you want, get involved. It's a really good way to help charities, to help Florida and it's a good way to just keep that interest going and you know, hit a black and white car when it comes to fancy football. So I'm going to get Kev, Chris, actually everybody involved here, anybody that does the podcast was, I'm going to get them all involved and I'm going to tell me because you know yourself, when you tell your mates, or I'm in this league and you can win such and such, everyone boils in and that's what we want. If we can get 400 people in, it'd be amazing, but we won't, but if we call it the more, the merrier. So that's how it works. And then as I said, the link is there in the description for you to do and start to them. That has been it. We'll hopefully be back tomorrow night. I actually got an idea from a show of somebody in a telegram group today and I might deal with tomorrow night. I'm going to have a little bit of a more of a look into it and we'll start over. So that'll be tomorrow night, Wednesday night and we will be back tomorrow night. Not too sure about the rest of the week, but the football is very, very fast approaching. So that's good as well. Everyone's asking about, man, what's going on with my man? Matt's living in the middle of fucking nowhere, right? In some vortex, right? And he's literally sitting in, it is Matt's kitchen gown. This internet is deplorable and it is. So what he's trying to do is God loves him. He's trying to change his farm plan to Opus 5G to do the show as via his farm. And in the meantime, to solve the problem, which is incredible, he's trying to buy a house. He's like, the only thing I can think of to solve this internet problem is buy a house in the city. 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