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It is a great rastling Wednesday. Especially with the Astros trying to get the silver boot, which I didn't know was a thing. I think you just made that up. I didn't. I found this out today. This is the last game between the Rangers and the Astros this year, which seems early. Yes, seventh. It feels like a regional rivalry. You feel like that should be the end of the year. If it's not the last series, it should be one of the final three series. Yeah, but apparently they play for a silver boot. I had no idea. Doesn't somebody in college football play for a silver boot? No, probably. This is very college football. Leave it to taxes to be like, how can we college football up this baseball? You know, one thing I didn't know existed in college football as far as the rivalry awards. Colorado State and Air Force. They have the Ram Falcon. Yeah, that sounds about right. Like, could you wait? Is it a Falcon with Ram horns? No, because if it is, now we're talking. No, it's just, it's, it's like a Ram. Ram talent. No, no, no, no. It's a Ram, like being attacked by a Falcon. Yeah. You just call it the Ram Falcon trophy. I'm like, you couldn't get more creative than that. No, I, I'm on board with it. We need more trophies in college. I think every game should be a trophy game. Every single one. I mean, the fact that Oregon and Oregon State, they need to play for the platypus trophy every year. We, that needs to be a bigger deal. The platy. Yeah. The, the platypus trophy needs to be, I think, Oregon, Washington, they need some sort of trophy that they need to play for, because now it's your Thanksgiving weekend rivalry. It's the last game of the regular season for both of them. They need trophies that they're playing for here. The dusky? Especially when you are in the Big Ten, because every damn game is a, is a trophy game in the Big Ten. You've got the, you've got a pig. You've got a spatoon. You've got Paul Bunyan's axe. Who's got the spatoon? Uh, I think that is, uh, I don't know. I don't know. It's Iowa and Minnesota, Minnesota and, Minnesota and Wisconsin maybe? I had a spatoon once. I don't know. Like an actual, like, dive in the world spatoon. All right. It's terrifying. Did you use it a lot? Oh yeah. All right. No, we kept it out on the... That sounds gross, dude. No, we kept it out on the patio, uh, in tech school. All right. Like, uh, it was like a motel style barracks. So we had, like, the big open walkways in front of all the rooms. All right. Here we go. Oh, it's Indiana, Michigan State. They play for the old brass spatoon. See, that doesn't make any sense. I don't, I don't associate a big old Shaw with either of those schools. Well, why not though? I'm, whatever. It's, you play the, for the Iowa and Minnesota, play for the Floyd of, uh, Rosedale, which is a pig. You have Iowa and Wisconsin play for a golden bull. That's pretty dope. Uh, you have Paul Bunyan's axe. Great. That is a... That's one of the better trophies in college football. Yeah. Paul Bunyan's axe is, uh, Minnesota and, and Wisconsin. You have the Paul Bunyan trophy, which is Michigan and Michigan State. Not a Paul Bunyan here. We're getting a lot of Paul Bunyan. Uh, you have, Indiana's got some sneaky good ones. Um, they got a lot of spare time. Indiana Purdue, they play for like a, a barrel. Just a keg. Okay. That's pretty dope. Is it loaded? No, it's not. But you need to, you need to have it. I, I, I sense a, uh, a future topic. Who? You know, on the, do we do it? Do we do a bracket? Of best rivalry trophies? Yeah. I mean, the golden hat is pretty dope too for... I think we might need to do a bracket. Yeah. Got, you can buy some of these rivalry trophies. 75 bucks. You can buy Paul Bunyan's axe. I think, all, all I'm thinking is bracket. Yeah. Yeah. I am too. This is pretty sweet. This feels like I might need to do some research, research tonight and come up with, how, how long are we, we doing 32? You can buy the old brass platoon. Like an actual... You can buy a replica. Yeah. A replica of their trophy. I'd love to just buy theirs. No, you can't do that. Come on, man. It'd be funny. Sell it back to you if it's 40. Yeah. Geez. That's pretty sweet. We need more. We need more trophies in college. What are we doing? We do bracket of 32? Sure. Yeah. Let's do it. Okay. Yeah. I'll put it together. This is stupid enough that I will spend time doing it. I like that. That's the thing that I enjoy doing. Yeah. This is good. I'm on board. Okay. I'm on board. It keeps going back. Big 10. Big 10, I think, is going to win this as far as like where the winner comes from. But there might be a dark horse somewhere in the country. Yeah. I mean, the golden chaletli or whatever they call it. Jewel chaletli. Yeah. Yeah. The jeweled chaletli. USC Notre Dame. That's a pretty good one. That's pretty cool. It's a stupid stick with a bunch of jewels on it. Some random dude would name his unit. The jeweled chaletli. Check out the old jeweled chaletli. I know. Hard where you got going on down there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You can bedazzle. A couple of Prince Albert's. Yeah. Well, Lamet and Lewis and Clark, they play for a wagon wheel. That's pretty good. That's a wagon wheel game. And it's like one of the oldest rivalries west of Mississippi rivers, two D3 teams. Can I just say? I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it when we have, when we talk about things, and we qualify it with east or west of the Mississippi. Yeah. There's just something very folksy about that. There's a lot of ground to cover between the Mississippi River and the west coast. Significantly more. And it's always like, well, you know, west of the Mississippi, I'm like, oh, you mean most of the country. Yeah. Well, geographically speaking. Yes. Population wise. Different. I think it's caught up. Okay. Why do Florida and Miami play for the Seminole War canoe? Chin Florida state be part of that. Yeah. Wait, they are the Seminoles. Yeah. Well, I mean, yes. I mean, let's face it. When in the time in the history of this country, have they ever cared about what the natives think going true, but also maybe because both schools hate Florida state, that's why they do it. Yeah. Boise State and Fresno State play for a milk can boy, Fresno State has got some low brow trophies. They play for a milk can and an oil can. How does Jim Harbaugh not been a part of this? Where's the double a battery rank in there? Mm. That's a good question. Vancouver for a text line, West Virginia should play Marshall for their hottest, first or second cousin. Mm boy. We got a battle on our hands then. That's tough. Yeah. You'd like a 23 and me to decipher. Maybe you could just have like West Virginia Marshall play for the family tree trophy and it's just a stick. Straight line. This is a stick with no branches. It's a broom handle. That's mean. Yeah. Well, you know, that's mean. If the broom fits. All right, come here and play for the gene pool and it's just a little tiny puddle. That is so mean. It's contained. It's contained. A bucket of water coming up next taking a look at your standards and how he fits strengths, weaknesses and evaluating what he can or can't do this year to elevate this class of quarterbacks coming up on Nanny and Dusty doing the fan. This season Instacart has your back to school as in they've got your back to school lunch favorites like snack packs and fresh fruit and they've got your back to school supplies like backpacks, binders and pencils and they've got your back when your kid casually tells you they have a huge school project due tomorrow. Let's face it, we were all that kid. So first call your parents to say I'm sorry and then download the Instacart app to get delivery in as fast as 30 minutes all school year long. 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Follow and listen to reception perception on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts today is August 7th here, 20 days comfortable August 27th is the first game. Right? For the ducks? No, August 31st. The first college football game though is I think we're 15 days away. It is on August 24th Thursday, wait, we don't have a Thursday game to kick it off week zero regular season for division one FBS football, August 24th, Delaware State and Hawaii. That sucks is the first nine a.m. Florida State Georgia Tech in Dublin. Yeah. Dang. That's a lot longer than I thought. So we are still 20 days or no, I can't imagine 17 days there you go less than three weeks away. Yeah, less than three weeks. Let's go. I'm excited for this college football season. I think we got so many with the new conferences and the conference realignment finally coming into play. I just can't wait for it to all get started. There's a ton of storylines. There's a there's a million things we worked out. We had Dave Bartu on the other day, Monday talking about from college football matrix. He threw out a hot take that I went Oh, Colorado, the finding should your Sanderson's open up against North Dakota State a very, very, very good North Dakota State team? Yeah. And this will be interesting because now we're in the third iteration of North Dakota State to actually the fourth iteration of North Dakota State because they've lost coach to Wyoming. They lost coach Kansas State. Now they lose the coach USC who took over as an assistant defensive coordinator and linebackers coach. This is truly a this is where you start going. How far is the depth in the bullpen of coaches in North Dakota State? But it is a powerhouse FCS program. Yes. And there was a line the bar two through in there that definitely made my eyebrows go up. If Colorado loses to North Dakota State, I believe they'll go 0 and 12. Now I haven't gone that far, but we've talked about the fact that the wheels could come off this thing really early. Because they struggle with North Dakota State and when reality is they are talented enough to beat North Dakota State, even with all the dysfunction that's going surrounding that pro just between Shador and Travis Hunter, you have enough talent to win that game. But then you go, if that one is close, then you go on the road to Nebraska and this Nebraska team is going to be far different than the one that they eked out last year. When you go on the road to Colorado State, which is a double overtime game last year, and you're looking at that war of attrition, they do not have depth because all of the guys that they brought in, most of them are gone from a year ago, and they still have the same death problems that they had a year ago. As the season wears on, they're not going to get stronger. They're going to get weaker. We saw that last year in pack 12 play. You entered the big 12 this year, which doesn't have the top end talent like Oregon or Washington. Boy, is there a lot of good talent? There is a lot of depth there, Kansas state is going to be good. Arizona is going to be good Utah, Utah, they have in Kansas also, they have all four of those schools on their schedule this year, they're going to be tough outs, and they have to go to Texas Tech and the one thing we know about Texas Tech, really good at home, terrible on the road. Yes, and Colorado has to go down to Lubbock. All the tortillas. And they go, they have Oklahoma State on their schedule too. They probably with central Florida on their, they have the six toughest teams in the big 12. With the exception of, well, I guess Baylor's not really not there right now. Baylor's on their schedule too. Oh, they are. God. Yeah. So it's not going to go well for them, but right now, because of the way this, this upcoming 2025 NFL draft class is shaping up, Shador Sanders is looked at as QB two as of right now. I, I don't believe in Carson back at the next level. I don't really think I believe in him in the college level as far as being a great quarterback as opposed to having insane talent around him, but that's for another day. Shador Sanders, and I think you and I see eye to eye on this is a very talented thrower. He's got a great arm. He's can make all of the throws he, when he has time and he can put touch on the ball, it's pretty. He throws a good ball. But I would say a plus decision maker, very accurate, but he holds on the ball too long. I don't think he is a great decision maker because he holds on to the ball. Okay. If you want, if you're carrying that, because I, I think that he has windows that he's afraid to throw in. Okay. And he got happy feet with a, a putrid offensive line last year, despite what you may or may not think of prime or Shador, he was playing in front of paper, but there is, there's also the one way that if you do not have a good offensive line, you get the ball out as quickly as you can. And there were time, there were times where a lot of them where he could have thrown the ball, but I think he is so risk averse because he doesn't want to throw interceptions and give the ball back to the other team. He just holds on to the ball, takes a sack instead, which you cannot do in the NFL. You cannot do it in the NFL. No, but one of the things that, that scouts and evaluators said that they do appreciate about Shador is that he does distribute the ball all over the field. Yes, he does. Inside, inside, quick decisions, quick routes, longer developing routes, deep to the outside, he's got all the ability to make all of the throws. There's nobody questioning whether or not he can process those reads or make those reads and then complete the throw on him. He has the tools necessary. Now he does not have the, for whatever reason, the Sanders gene of speed was not blessed across his children. Interesting that one of the fastest humans on the planet didn't have any progeny that were that fast. And it's a little weird, right? He does seem like the outlier there, you know, it's just, well, maybe, maybe, but Shiloh isn't like a burner on the outside either. That's what I mean. Like none of his kids. It's a generation. It's a skips generation. Yeah. It's the elite speed. But so much of we talk about Colorado is how much it's just an epic S show. Yep. Shidor has not been a verse to that, whether it's his, his other brother who runs social media for Colorado, not doing him any favors today. If you want to go on social media, go on Twitter, just search darts only. And you will see the worst edited video is very bad of all time. Very bad. It's Shidor Sanders throwing a deep ball to the corner on the opposite side of the field. And it's edited in a fashion to where it looks like it's an entirely different play where a receiver catches a touchdown in the end zone. Now, the internet sleuths have already kind of gone through it and it's like, it is the same play, but it's the worst edit ever. It looks like it's an entirely different play because it looks like the ball that might actually have been intercepted. And now you have other universities that are making fun of it. Yeah, they are getting dragged for that one. It's really bad. There was video from, from the big 10 of Dylan, I, Ryola throwing what appeared to be like a little five yard drop off and all of a sudden, the next edit is a bomb 60 yards down the field. The best was Arkansas. Arkansas did one where they're just totally mocking Colorado in that the quarterback throws like, I don't like a dig towards the middle of the field. And they edit it to be a high arching long shot to the opposite sideline. It was great. It was fantastic trolling by Arkansas. Look, everybody's going to take their shots at it and then that's what's going to be interesting is how, how does Colorado, how does Shadur Sanders, how does Dion Sanders, how do they all manage the expectations? How do they manage his development? How do they get him prepared to be an NFL quarterback? Because that's, that's what Dion, he won't say it, but that's what this has been all about. Yeah. And look, he's doing a great job of leading the hype train behind him. But if the wheels fall off this year, that will be two years in a row. And if Shadur Sanders is taking shots at teammates on social media, like he has been. Or I mean, he gets wrapped up in some, I don't know, some stupid gambling issue. Well, that was the backup. Oh, the music. Well, what's going on in that locker room, it's, it's, it's Gilbert Arena's Gevaris Kritnton levels, levels of stupid in that locker room, right? There is not a lot of maturity in that Colorado locker room. And there are bigger issues at play. And look, I, I feel like if, if they do struggle with North Dakota State and then they do start picking up losses early and guys start pointing fingers and they can't pull in the same direction and get it back on the right track, Shadur Sanders for all of the love that he is getting as an NFL prospect, that's going to start coming back down to earth because just, this is not a draft class that is quarterback heavy. Like if Carson Beck is the number one, I think that tells you why teams were so, I don't desperate, I mean, we can call it what it is when you have five quarterbacks taking the first 11 picks. They were all desperate to go and find a quarterback this year because you look at next year's draft class and it's Carson Beck, Shadur Sanders, Quinn Ewers is in that draft class as well. The next on the list is Connor Wegman at AM and Jalen, you have Jalen Milro at Alabama as well where if you look at guys that could make up a lot of ground on Shadur Sanders and pass him. You know, further than Jalen Milro who has Jalen Daboras as offensive coordinator and head coach, right? You know, you have, Dabor system's going to be coming down. You have a wealth of talent that's still going to be around about the receiver position and he's got a live arm. He is, he will get a bump this year if he thrives in Shadur Sanders, goes down, Quinn Ewers, if Quinn Ewers can have a big year without Xavier Worthy and without AD Mitchell, then you're looking at him and going, well, he lost his two best targets from a year ago and he's still thriving with Sark, which he should do at Texas since you're getting Isaiah Bond in because they are going to be really damn good in Texas and you shouldn't look at the success of your team and say that's going to be the, the indicator in the NFL. But if Shadur continues to take sacks, holds onto the ball for too long, even that clip where, you know, it was darts only, you saw him stutter in the pocket instead of slide up. He kind of ducks down, gets scared and then holds onto the ball for too long and ends up popping it down the field. Like those are things that get you killed in the NFL. And those are things that draft evaluators are going to look, look at. Shadur has all of those tools. If that offensive line cannot give him happy feet back in the pocket where there's not a quarterback alive that would be standing tall in a pocket in, in waiting to deliver a throw and knowing you're going to get hit if you have the old line that Colorado has. Not one in the country, not a single one. But if you're not getting the ball out quicker this year and maybe taking a little bit more risk and showing your live arm that he does have, then you're going to see evaluators say, well, does he have it in the NFL level? Because you've got to be able to thread a needle and you've got to be willing to get the ball out quick if your offensive line isn't good. It's an interesting place to be. He still has to, you know, this year and then to make the transition to the NFL. The book hasn't been written, but it's, it's not a choose your intervention, but by any means at this point. I think a guy too to keep an eye on is Jackson Dart at Ole Miss because if they have a big year this year, he is very talented. No, yes. He is super talented. He took in three schools to figure it out, but he's figured it out. And I think Riley Leonard at Notre Dame, the Duke transfer, he got dinged up last year. He's more of like a bowling ball type. I'm interested to see what Riley Leonard brings to Notre Dame this year. I like him a lot. Unfortunately, he lost his left tackle for the year. Yep, that's not good. Problematic. Keeping it in the quarterback world. Nick Saban's dead. He's got time. I like this. He's got time to educate the Chicago Bears and Matt Iberflus on how to handle Caleb Williams going forward. But first, he's the big hula that sports an update. I hear they got some tasty burgers. Nick Saban's got time. What happens to you? Retire for me and the old ball coach. But he has a retired for football. That man can't. Got no. Can't quit. There's no way, shape, matter, or form that man can entirely quit football and he's holistic and philosophical ideas I think have evolved over time. But I think specifically as it pertains to quarterbacks because this is the man who was like, I'm going to win with defense and running backs for 10 years and then the realization around what 2012, 2013 that he needed quarterback. His offense needed to get out of the zone. He's drastically changed. So he's gone through this. And I mean, I think there's some very direct parallels you can draw to that in the Chicago Bears. This is a franchise that has unquestionably the worst history of offensive production and quarterback play in the entirety of the NFL. And it's not close. No, they've never had a 4,000 year pass. It's the ineptitude reaches levels that no one else can claim. Now, you could go, Oh, they're an outdoor team. They're in the black and blue division. Like Green Bay Packers player in colder, crappier, worse weather and have had two, actually three Hall of Fame quarterbacks already, of which if you take parts of their careers, would be better than the combination of any bearish quarterback you could ever mention. Yeah. And like everybody wants to always crack jokes at, you know, the Cleveland Browns and in their quarterback situation. Brian Seip everybody, 4,000 yard pass, they've only had one, but Brian Seip did it. Yeah. The Bears also, I still believe still have never had a quarterback throw for 30 touchdowns in the season. Good God. That's not good, Bob. Also, Brian Seip, 1980 Cleveland Browns, even the Browns got it right once. God, they didn't, they didn't Baker didn't get took him over 4,000. No, Baker, 3,727 touchdowns. I would have got that wrong. I would have, I would have thought he would have thrown for like 4,100. No, just clipped it. No, poor Baker, Derek Anderson got close though, 37, 87 and 29 touchdowns. Ooh, almost 4,030. Yeah. That was a pro bowl year, buddy. Hum, again, pro bowl quarterback bears, they haven't had many of those. Sexy, Rexy, Jim McMahon, but you know what, the one thing the Bears have had is futility at quarterback, but they've won a Super Bowl with the most dominant defense in NFL history. And oh, by the way, went to a Super Bowl with a dominant defense with Rex Grossman. Yeah. So, again, drawing on those parallels, shout out the, some really great footage back and forth between Nick Saban and Matt Averfluis on hard knocks. Just holistically how the Bears can prepare to have Caleb Williams be successful. Here's my theory on why NFL quarterbacks fail at such a dramatic rate. To me, expectations are a killer. This kid you got. This kid's got so much media, so much hype, so much expectation on doing well. And he has to develop so quickly to meet the expectations that everybody has for him. It's almost impossible. The expectations are a killer, but yet, to use your word, development is the key for him. You know, like Peyton Manning, through 28 interceptions when he was at rookie. Yeah. It's most of the history of all. Back, man. Let's just throw. Tiptan. Anderson. It's unbelievable. Put the nail on it. But it didn't affect him. It was like the struggle. The struggle don't mean anything until the game. You and I have talked about this a bunch off air over the last couple of years in the sense of how quarterback film it, and you are certainly, I think, more lenient on guys and giving them more and more opportunities to show things like it. Yeah, because history will tell you that environment and your coach and your system, they matter. And I 100% agree with you, but I also think that there's also the staggering majority of evidence is that you've got to show something. Even in the microcosm of my God, the Bears had nothing around Justin Fields. I don't think he's going to go to Pittsburgh, where he's going to have a better offensive line and have some semblance of an offense around him. He's going to look leaps and bounds better. No, I just won't say the guys are trash, and then you go, well, everything around him was trash. Yeah, no. You know, I think Justin Fields can be serviceable. Sure. I don't think he is ever going to be an all pro or worthy of a top five pick by any measure, but I think he was the 10th overall pick, right? 11th. Yeah. He was in there. It was just he was in Chicago. They were hoping for a savior, and they had nothing around him. Yeah. Right? And I mean, there were people ready to write off Josh Allen and Jordan Love and Jared Goff, and people were like, they're bums. I will look at a guy and be like, I don't know, man. There's not a whole hell of a lot around him. And I think I'm not on the way of bums, but well, Bryce Young, I might be there with him, but again, one year with the worst offense in the league around. It might be one of the worst offenses ever, which is why I caveat that, but also saw nothing from him. And he was like, well, maybe. And I think that's that's where you watch in a lot of Carolina Panthers games. Unfortunately, I did watch a lot of Panthers games. Why? Because I like watching rookies. I'm sick, but in general, I do agree with what's saving the same because even in Peyton Manning's rookie year where he led the league in interceptions and then went, what, four and 12, they, you still saw the glimpses with Peyton. Even when it was, oh God, that's terrible. Oh, that's terrible. You still could understand what that was. And if you go back and look at that four and 12 team, there were weapons on that team. And he still was a complete ass show, but there was a belief there was an understanding there was that, hey, it'll be there. And I think that number one, that level of patience in the NFL doesn't exist anymore. I don't, I don't think Peyton Manning level of patience where, to be honest, I think the comparison you draw it almost is Scoot Henderson, where as such a high level pick, the stats were so underwhelming. Yeah. But the difference between Peyton and Scoot is that Peyton did have legitimate moments of, oh, oh, that's different, that's, that's processing, that's special. That's, you know, I mean, you, you could feel it. There was something there that was like, look, I know X, Y and Z aren't good, but boy, A, B and C, you know that there's something there and you can keep mining that. And I think even in the worst situations, the work circumstances, I think saving, especially what he's saying there is you've got to cultivate that you've got to hold on to that. I think one thing that Chicago has done a really good job though, is that they committed to improving the offensive line. They improved the weapons by leaps into bounds. This is nowhere near the offense that Justin Fields had around him. And Caleb Williams gets the ability to step in and have actually a chance to prove himself. Also, I think there's a part of Caleb Williams where he is part of the factory that has developed him to get to this point where, you know, Nick Saban's talking about the expectations that are being held against him and will be held against him. He's okay with that because those expectations have been there since he was in eighth grade. Yeah, and him and his father helped build those expectations. Exactly. Like that was part of the deal was that, you know, build those expectations so that you can live up to them and exceed them even, whether it's at Oklahoma or at USC and then you can talk about how, you know, what happened at Oklahoma or what happened at USC. He won a Heisman Trophy and was one of the most prolific players in college football history. I mean, that's, it is what it is. So you, you, you take a look at what those expectations are for him going forward. I think the bar is going to be not honest. Well, you see that by calling him the most, one of the most prolific in the history of the game. It was. I mean, that Heisman season was one of the most prolific, it was, it was, it was one of the most individual prolific seasons in the history of college football. I thought that a USC thing, that's just what it was. It was a very good season when you when you shatter passing records and touchdown records at USC that has multiple Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. It's one of the most prolific seasons of college football. I mean, there's been a lot of them that have been there, that have been there. Yes. It's my point. Okay. Not USC. It's just, it's the most prolific in five years. Joe burrow. Okay. Well, yes, I said one of one of, I know what you're saying. It's not. I'm giving you USC honk a little, a little bit of a, it's going to be a town here. God. Can I have next? I strangled dusty, Danny, that's good. Well, we found a way to jinx the, the worst thing in, or the best thing going in baseball is the White Sox losing. Yeah. You know what, the White Sox and the A's, yeah, I'm out of town with this six runs yesterday, one of them didn't come closely over top of the ninth. White Sox are losing three to two with two outs. So they could start a brand new streak. Brand new streak. Yeah. Frank Thomas had quite the, uh, quote on this. Yes. Oh, this was fantastic here. We got, we got it. This could do it. Out. It was like a fall game. The Sox found a way to win. That's all we wanted in Chicago, just to win. It's hard to be laughing and stalking baseball, you know, these long losing streaks, everyone talks about it and the rest of the national news pickup on it. Oh, yeah. The organization is easy news. So now turn the page, move on. Um, they still are the laughing stock of baseball. No, it hasn't changed. Like, well amount of new genics, and that's with the A's around. One game did not change it, but you know what it did give us? Probably the loudest F John Fisher chance that were, that were heard on, on TV, which fantastic. I mean, it was crystal clear when the A's lose the game to the White Sox. That, that could have kept history going. The few fans that were there last night, they were cheering F John Fisher. Uh, you was crystal clear through the broadcast and they don't dump it. They couldn't. They couldn't. You couldn't have zero sound. It's the ambient sound of the stadium. There's nothing they could do. Let's go that line for the crowd. It was just, uh, glorious, but, um, screw you white socks and A's. The over, it was there for the taking and they just couldn't take it. Nope. Nope. Nope. No. You hate to see it. Truly terrible. New streak has officially started though. The A's have finished off the White Sox. Oh no. They suck again. And so now they are 1 in 22 over there. That's 23 games. So either tomorrow or Friday, I'll, I'll have the, uh, the trophies. Ooh, I like this. We'll have, we'll have the, the trophy bracket face off. I'm the best trophies in college football. I am so in on this. Oh my God. There's a lot of really good ones. Yes, there is. I mean, the Golden Hat is pretty dang good. Yeah. I mean, that one is up there with Texas Oklahoma. All right. I'm looking forward to this. Hmm. All right. Coming to the next four hours of power from their mouths to your ears is prime time with Isaac and soup right here on the fan. Mmm. Bye. Trying to figure out what to eat for dinner yet again with nor sides and bullion as you're not so secret ingredient, you can skip the drive through and do dinner at home. 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