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Test Match Special

No Balls: Hundred success and presenting mishaps

Kate Cross and Alex Hartley return, and Kate is loving life as the Northern Superchargers enjoy a strong campaign in the Hundred. She tells us all about that and why teammate Annabel Sutherland could become one of the game's best players.

Alex has tales, good and bad, from her presenting exploits. And we've got plenty of time for listeners' questions.

Duration:
32m
Broadcast on:
08 Aug 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

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Call turns at mintmobile.com. BBC Sounds. Music. Radio. Podcasts. Hi everyone. We've got to let you know that we do sometimes swear on this podcast. But don't let that put you off because Henry beeps them out, but we might sometimes say... Sheesh kebab. Flippin' heck. That's a swear word. Cross. I'm doing round the wicked. Oh, that's it. Hold it. Hold it. I'm leaving a ball alone. Nixfield. I think it's the wobble ball. And it just nips back. It jags back. It's the nip backer. That is a beauty from Kate Cross. An absolute seed. That is a beauty from Cross. So Cross E says 3-2-1. We both press record at the same time. She's done it here. Hello. Welcome to no balls. A great podcast with me. Alex Hartley and you, Kate Cross. And I'll fill in the context because no Hartley context. No context Hartley. We're in the same room. Yes. I organized dinner tonight with one of your teammates and one of my ex teammates. And totally forgot you were going to be here. And then I was like, cross these around. Yes. Our schedules have been mad to help me. We tried to make up in London last week. And you thought you were staying near me. Turns out it was a 45 minute tube journey. You were like, can't be bothered with that. I was like, don't bother with that. So we didn't see each other even though we were in the capital. And now we're both in the capital of Wales. The capital of Wales. And we're here in the same room. This is one of the first podcasts we've done together for months. It feels like it, doesn't it? Months and months. That's what it is. Possibly. I don't know. I don't even remember what we spoke about on the last one. No. We were just like, should we just listen to it for five minutes? I think last time you just presented your first BBC TV show. I'd played a game. Have we tied? No, I don't think you'd had the tie. There's been two times. No, we have. We have. Because I said how I felt like we'd lost the game for my team for the Phase Five doubles. So we had done the tie. Yeah. Anyway, how are you? Superchargers are winning. I'm great. How good? You're actually not winning. You're dominating. We have had, in fact, I'm going to read this out so I get this right. Because this is a good stat. Superchargers, in the last five days, have completed three of the five biggest wins by runs in Women's Hundred. So we beat the Invincibles by eight to two runs on Friday, beat the Originals by 46 runs on Sunday, and then beat the Phoenix by 61 runs yesterday. How good? Flying. How good? So we do a bad game. Yeah. Yeah, you are. Hopefully, it's against the Welsh Fire. With due to play the Welsh Fire tomorrow, however, it's wet. Very wet. Very wet. As in, like, could be a completely wasted trip to Cardiff? Could be, like, no man's cricket either, like, not a single ball, could be ball tomorrow. This podcast will probably come out afterwards, so in hindsight, everyone will know. Yeah. We don't know yet. It's rained. It's raining. It's rained. It's going to rain. You just told me, if it rains tomorrow, you can't finish top. Yes, we can, but it's out of our hands. So if we won tomorrow and won all our other games, we could finish top. Yeah. Tomorrow would be shared points, which would then mean if Welsh Fire win their games, we cannot finish top. Yeah. So we have to rely on Welsh Fire to lose them, I think. Or halfway through. Just over. Just over. You've got three games left. Yes. Plus finals. Hopefully. Such good. Hopefully. Sorry, by the way, if you can hear fizzying, fizziness, it's our sparkling water. Top up, thank you. You told me I've eaten strawberries on the podcast last week. It's like there's podcasts out there that drink like alcohol on theirs. We drink sparkling water because you're an athlete, and I'm not drinking at the minute. She's off it. I am. Cos. Tell everyone why you think she'd actually done this on the last podcast, but we didn't know whether to talk about it because we didn't know whether you'd hate it. Oh, it's a rung club. She's been to rung club. Oh my god, it was so hard. How on average, what was the average age of people there? 40. Yep. OK. And then it was honestly because it was so hard. I could taste blood. I could smell blood. I felt like I was dying. So you drove, you actually drove 30 minutes to go to this rung club because you don't want to do the rung club on your doorstep in case you saw anyone you know. So you drove 30 minutes. What's my ex-boyfriend's there? Well, you keep bumping into him. Well, well, but then you messaged me at like 8 p.m. saying just done. Yeah. Are you side of six? I know. Where have you been? What have you been? Where have you been? Trail running a lot. Burning them. Trail running. I was through the forest. I was tripping over twigs. The chest was burning. So I started all out. Out. I started out in the medium group and it was like first rep where you do a warm up first rep was like a 580 meter sprint. So I was thinking, OK, that's five hundred and eight to me. Metas. Yeah. So I'm thinking it's half a K in it or whatever. It must have just been the lead field. You're an 80 meters. It's just not half a K. It is? 500 is. Yeah. Well, just over. So I'm thinking, OK, back in the day, it's like one and a bit laps of the track. You can do that easy. I went out. I was sprinting. I was catching up to the fast group. Second time. Same again. I was doing the same again. Anyway, the next lot of runs was a kilometer run. Right. I ended up in this little group. OK. So you burn out early. Yeah. Yeah. We're still on the field. Nice to be back. We're in there. Around 6K. Really proud of you. And then they were like, OK, run club's done. We're going to finish with some hill sprints. I'm not. No. No. I sat and watched. And when we ran up that thing in Perth, because Jacob's ladder and we were like, right, we'll just sprint up here. It was probably about a kilometer up, about 3000 steps. We got to the top and we were both vomiting. And we got to the top and you're like, I'm going to do that three times a week. Yeah. I'm going to carve them in the same. It dums on the phone. I did. It's rather weird. Well, well done you. I've also been dieting. I've been exercising. I ran yesterday. I ran 4K. Nice. And then I watched the 1500 meters sprinting the Olympics. Joke. And they look so slow compared to me who just ran 4K in 23 minutes. They are a joke, by the way. We were watching this the other day and we run 5Ks, don't we? Yeah. So you can put it into context. Context, not concept. Context. And the guys that have finished last are like your crap. 16 minutes that bloke did it in. The winner is doing it in 12. Oh no. 12 minute 5K. 12 minutes. That's a sprint. Have you seen the clip on the BBC of the people trying to keep up with? Yeah. And Hodgkinson. When they're on the treadmill. Yeah. And they do it for like 12 seconds. 12 seconds. Yeah, it's crazy. Crazy, crazy. But otherwise you will. I thought you were. I'm good. I am good. I'm a bit under the weather today actually. It's cause I think I've been bitten and I think it's gone into my blood. Okay. It's not that. That was last week but it's won't go down. But do you know when you're just a bit like me? Yeah. I had a late night. We're mid 100. I know. Fatigueing tournament. How are you finding it? It's shorter than last year. Shorter and more manic. We're travelling after every game at the minute because... That's a shame. I know. We're playing, travelling that evening. Day off the next day in different city. Play in the next day. It's full on at the minute. But we went in so it's really handy to have the momentum. I think if we were in a bad place at the minute it would be a tough part. Like Manchester. Bit of part of the schedule. But I think since we beat the oval at the oval we've... I don't know we just seem to have gained the confidence that we kind of lacked in the first two games. Okay. So as a group we're in a great place. I'm in a good place. I'm just tired. But it's 100 so you're going to be tired. You're bowling well though. You're not right. I'm actually... I don't feel very good. I don't feel like I'm bowling well. She does this all the time. She puts herself down. But you know what? When you're not in your rhythm. Yeah. Here we go. How many know the balls have you bowled? Four. That's all right. That's normal. Okay. Oh. He'll look ahead anyway though. Annoying. Anyway, playing yesterday at Edge Baston. I'm at Anna's end. Oh. Cheryl. Anna. I give her my cap. I give her my sunny. She goes, "When is this golf day?" I was like, "Oh Anna. Yeah. I'll go over." I'm 17th of September or 18th. I was like, "We'll get it in the group chat later." 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Not know who we are. Stop us in the middle of what we're up to. I had a middle-aged man push in front of loads of kids the other day. That annoyed me because the kids come first. Kids always do come first, yeah. I've got nothing else on my stick, you know. I am happy to go upstairs if you are because we've got a lot of emails. Yeah. Who with? Anna and Sue. Anna and Sue. Sorry, Anna. Still not textured back about the golf day. [Music] Hey, everyone. This is Molly and Matt, and we're the hosts of Grown Up Stuff How to Adult, a podcast from Ruby Studio and iHeart Podcasts. It's a show dedicated to helping you figure out the trickiest parts of adulting. Like how to start planning for retirement, creating a healthy skincare routine, understanding when and how much to tip someone, and so much more. Let's learn about all of it, and then some. Listen to Grown Up Stuff How to Adult on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Grown Up Stuff. Grown Up Stuff. [Music] Okay, this one is called podcast, and this is from Jaya. This is great because someone's phonetically spelled how they spell their names, so we often get these wrong. So thank you so much, Jaya, because we don't want to look like idiots. I reckon I could get Jaya right though. It is Jaya-Ya. Hi, Kate and Alex, I hope you're well. I'd like to say thank you to Alex for taking time to speak to me, and my mum during the 100 game last week. And I'd also like to apologise, I'll be half of my mum in case she's scared you. I was a bit lost for words, so just allowed her to do all the talking. My question for Alex is, do you ever get the urge to want to play cricket again when commentating? And that's from Jaya, and she's put a little picture of you two together. Cute, but no, Jaya, I get asked this all the time every day, do I miss it? No, I was so mentally unwell with cricket, and I've been anxious, but through different reasons. And I've not been anxious, I've not been depressed, and I just feel so, like, calm about life now. So, although I missed the 100 and the team environment, like all the Welsh girls went out the other night, and I was like, oh, I'd love to be there. How would you feel if you didn't have to do the dual role of commentating and cricket? Like, do you think you could cricket again if you could just focus on cricket? No. No, not at all. Because I think you declined when you had to do both roles. Yeah, when it got too much. Yeah, definitely. So, another day off of two years. Yeah. Speaking of days off, we need to plan our holiday. Yeah, we do. Right, well, last week it was all dedicated to me, so, here's a cross, there's a cross everywhere, a cake cross. Clever. Hi, Kate and Alex, for the first time in my adult life, I found myself looking for somewhere to go on holiday on my own. I've recently got back from a surprisingly sunny week in Leeds, which I chose, so I could take in some of the 100. I saw the matches against Trent Rockets and Southerbred, and thoroughly enjoyed seeing so many top players. I have a few questions inspired by my trip, the first is for Kate. There are a lot of posters of you around head and link. You are also one of the main players on the big screen, asking fans to bring the noise and advertising in the 100 app. Do you enjoy being such a public face of the game, and how much do you think no balls has helped you become so recognisable? We say this a lot on the podcast, but I do think we're more recognised for podcasting than we are for cricket. You're not, I am. OK, maybe fair, but I am still playing, so it's relevant. Holly Armitage actually jokes with me a lot about this, because she says that I'm the face of head in league. Even though she's the captain, she doesn't care. But little things, so one beanie I got given out for each team, and I got it, and I was the one that had to put it on social media. So, in my head, the 100 are smart, because I have more followers than Holly, so in that regard, advertising is a little bit easier. I don't not enjoy it, but I think if it was, I was more nervous first year of the 100, because I did a lot of advertising for the 100, and I didn't know how I was going to be, whereas now four years in, I feel more settled, I think my stats are OK. So it means that I'm not, I do not want to, I do not want to say, but it's not warranted, but... Your face is allowed to be on an advert because you're playing well. Basically, do you know what I would hate, and I really feel sorry for Ben Stokes this week, because it's all been about him coming back. Cut first baller? There has never been anything more sure in the 100, the cricket in history, that he was going to get first baller. And I felt so sorry for him, because he just made a big deal out of him. And that is the price you pay for being famous, and I'm good at cricket. Now, a couple of other questions for you both. It looked to me like the Trent Rockets women had ten genuine bowling options in their team, which teams would do well if every player had to ball ten balls. Not Birmingham Phoenix, because they've got four wicked keepers. We've got a weird decent, because we've got six out and out, Holly Kimball, Leggies, Daph Kimball, Daph Kimball, everything. Can she? Leggies, Seymour. Who's Daph? Devina Perrin. Thank you. Sorry. We'd be decent, actually. I think the Welsh Fire would be good as well. Tammy loves balling off a spin. Yeah, but just loving it doesn't mean you got it. True. I'm not sure, because there's batters for a reason. In the 100 this year, we have Matt Short, not actually Short, and Josh Little, not actually Little. Who else in the cricket has the wrong name? Kate Cross. I'm not Cross. You look Cross a lot of the time. Oh, no, I've tried really hard to overcome that. Who else have you gone? Well, we call Matt Tall now. You're Matt Tall. Not Matt Short. Not Matt Short. Is there anyone called Long? Phil Long, the scorer. Is he Long? No. Everything Long. Apparently Josh isn't Little either. Okay, leave it there. This one's called The Hundred. Hi Kate and Alex, this is from Sue. Redford. No, Sue Sharp. Is she though? Is she Sharp though? Sue Blunt. Sue Blunt. Sue Blunt. Really enjoying the hundreds, but especially angry by the difference in crowd numbers between the women's and the men's matches, what do you think is the answer? Would it help if the women's games were in the evening rather than during working day? What about weekend differences to be interested to hear your thoughts? Sue Blunt. Actually, we've broken loads of records this year. Yeah. So I'm not against The Hundred Crowds. I think they've been rubbish at Manchester. Cardiff have broken records because the crowds haven't been great at Cardiff over the last three years. I do think the game should swap around every now and then. I do think because the boys finish so late, sometimes they want to finish early as well. Yeah, I don't know why they haven't tried that yet because do you remember our first, first, first game in The Hundred? Manchester played oval at oval and we had 11,000 in that night. And I think if they did that now, they'd have easily 16, 17,000 easy on a Friday night. Yeah, I think they should swap it round every now and then. I'm not sure I'm angry about it like Sue Blunt is though. She's been quite blunt about it actually. Yeah. It's quite a blunt email. Yeah, but quite a sharp assessment. This one is from Giles from York, Annabel Sutherland, Belsey. Hi Kate and Cross. Kate and Cross. What? I didn't say that at all. No, I said Belsey. Hi Kate and Alex, doesn't say hi. No, I know. I just thought I was called Cross. Oh God. Hi Kate, not so Cross and Alex, big heartly. Big fan of the pod, Kate. Oh my God, I can't. Big fan of the pod. Kate, I wanted to get your opinion on Annabel Sutherland, your current team mate, who has been sensational in The Hundred this season for the Northern Superchargers. Ashley's Hundred, Test Match Double Hundred and several impressive spells for the Australia with a white ball, bowling through tough overs, in the death in white ball cricket in the past, in the space of 12 months. You get the gist. Do you think she will be as good as Elise Perry and become the leading all rounder in the next decade or so? A really good question. I think she absolutely could be better than Elise. But the thing that makes Elise very great at what she does is that she's done it for a long time and she's continued to produce. But Annabelle has impressed me so, so much. Obviously you've played with her at Welsh fire a couple of years ago. You've got four ducks in six games to choose mate. It can happen. But the thing that's impressed me most about Belsey is her professionalism around training. This is what I think The Hundred's great because this is the stuff that the young players get to see and learn from. When the overseas players come into an environment, they just see how different internationals work. It's not just you regional players, international regional players that come back in for a game or so. They see differences. So her professionalism around training has been unbelievable. How she thinks about the game for a 22 year old is pretty remarkable. She's so young and she forgets. Yeah. Her, the brain that she has would make me think that she's played hundreds of more games than she has. And her skill set is ridiculous. I don't think I quite realised how good a batter she is until I've seen her play for us. Yeah. She can hit, not many people can hit, in the women's game, can hit a ball off the back foot powerfully and she hit one for six the other day off the back foot. Can I? I only know Nat Siva to be able to do that. Yeah. And Belsey. And Belsey. And also a great human. Amazing. Really coming out of a shell as well. Do you know my favourite nightclub in Cardiff is called Heidi's? Yep. Heidi. Is she? Yeah. And she's now with her mum in Cardiff. Yeah. At Heidi's. Hopefully they've gone to Heidi. Have you still got your loyalty card for Heidi? Yeah. I'm going to get it out for tomorrow. Nice. Yeah. You've got my free entry. So yeah. I do think Belsey could be one of, I mean, like, you don't score a test match double hundred without being ready for us again. Did she get a hundred? Yeah. Is she going to be? Yeah. Was it a double hundred or just a hundred? Double. You sure? Yeah. I thought Tommy was the only one to get a double hundred in that game. I thought it was. And Belsey played another test match. Oh, she did it. It wasn't against us. No. She got a hundred against us, though. Yeah. Is she going to be better than the similar? Different roles. Very, very different. I mean, she could. The game's going to evolve so much. Like, the thing that Elise and Nat haven't had, didn't get to do early in their careers is go and play franchise cricket around the world and have that responsibility of being an overseas player. And she's doing that at 22. Yeah. And she's won those two games so far already. And I'm pretty sure she's the MVP of the tournament at the minute in terms of, like, the most points gained from the MVP table. So, to do that at 22. What were you doing at 22? You don't want it on a Saturday? Yeah, you don't want it on a Saturday. I was doing it. You don't. You actually don't. Robert says, "Is there any nobles, merchandise for sale?" No. Not anymore. Well, we gave away them three mugs. What were you thinking we'd done? That cost us so much money. 500 quid. I can't walk down the street or drive down the street manky anywhere without seeing that. What? We left outside. We still don't know if that guy got that. No, I never said thank you. When are you next to Manchester? Sunday, Monday. And then I worked Tuesday when it was this Sunday. Sunday, hundreds done. It's gone so fast actually, hasn't it? How's it is? Why are you coming fast? Why are you coming fast? I remember saying to myself last week, like, when we get to this point, it's going to fly now because we're on the road travelling playing. And I was like, make sure, make sure you take everything in and enjoy it all because it's going to be over like that. Where are you off to have to have to card it? Manchester. Manchester, Sunday. For Sunday? For Father's Day. Oh, I might come. Is it actually Father's Day on Sunday, by the way? No. No, it's been a con. Yeah. Yeah. Father's Day is there. Okay. Um, I might come to that then. Okay. You started three. Yeah. No, yeah. Oh, Derby Day. Derby Day. We've beat them once. Yeah. It's really weird because obviously we both played for Manchester, right? Yeah. I am obviously a world fire fan, but I'm now massively Northern Superchargers because I love your team. Yeah. We do have a really good team. And actually the Derby Day last week, so we played them out headingly on Sunday. It didn't have, I'll say this lightly because there was so much rivalry there. Don't get me wrong. But it was so friendly at the same time. Yeah. Like at the end of the game, we were all stood around having a chat. Yeah. And it was really nice to see Fi and Phoebe and they were all like well bold. Mm. And I was just so lucky. Yeah. I was going to see Fi today for a coffee. Her house made a fee and she cancelled. Oh. Busy. Busy girl. It's a hundred time. Yeah, I'm particular. Um, that's it. I'm done. Should we go for some tea? Let's go. No ballers on. No balls podcast at BBC.co.uk. 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