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Just go to indeed.com/bluewire right now and support our show by saying that you heard about Indeed on this podcast, that's indeed.com/bluewire, terms and conditions apply. Indeed to hire, you need Indeed. Greg Nielsen, buy sell hold coach McCullough's genuine confidence and attention to detail in the play of Notre Dame's running backs and the way they carry themselves, his running backs as much as any other coach appears to be a reflection of him. I'll buy that. I think that's very obvious. Even last year, first game of the year, one of the things the coach McCullough preaches a lot, Vince, is protect the football. Your stud running back fumbles the ball in the first quarter of the game last year in what happens. We don't see him again until the third quarter. He sent a message on who you are. This is something that we believe in. You put the ball on the ground, you don't play. That sent a message in how many times who had fumbling problems a year before, how many times did Audric put the ball on the ground the rest of the year? The answer is zero. Why? Because the message was sent. Hey man, this isn't going to be okay, this isn't acceptable. I think that's a very good observation and something that I buy, absolutely. Zibi Nandifoar by Cell Hold with Rudolph making a comment that Wagner will not be moving to left tackle because of comfortability. It would be better to move Lambert to left tackle right now because if the light turns on mid-season, it would be hard for a freshman to switch from right to left mid-season. Yeah, I buy that, especially since Lambert didn't play right tackle in high school. If you're going to get Gerby Lambert ready to play, in my opinion, the move would be to move a meal Wagner there. I know what he said, but how long have you played him there? He didn't look good the first, you tried him out there during a one-on-one pin, he didn't do well, so you just said, "Oh, screw it, we're not going to," you know what I mean? How much time did they give a meal Wagner playing on the left side? I don't think they gave him any time. I think he just told them I feel more comfortable. That's the way it sounded in the audio is that he told the coaching staff he feels more comfortable on the right side. I know, I'm just telling you what he said. Yeah, I just don't think he cares to get Gerby Lambert ready to play. That's the impression he gave with his own words. Correct. I mean, it could be wrong, I hope I am wrong, but it just sounds like this is just what they're doing. Yeah. I was very discouraged by that, I'll be honest with you. And not that I even dislike Tosh Baker, I've defended Tosh Baker. It's just, you're not going to have a competition there, you're going to put tight. You can rig a competition, and if your competition is what we put Ty Chan out there too, that's a rigged competition. Yeah, exactly. Right? Like, you're not being serious. No, you put self, give someone absures from reps out there, let a meal try it, and let's see if a meal is not comfortable because a meal may feel that way, but you put them out there, there are some drills, and you're like, "Hey, coach, you know what, I'm actually a little better at this than I thought I was." You know what I mean? Like, I remember the first time, you know, I tried to hit left-handed. I was like, "This is awful. I'm so awkward." I just, other people, it's like, "Yeah, let me go try it out." You're like, "Wow, I actually, I actually swing the bat pretty well over here. I see the ball better over here. I never would have thought that if somebody wouldn't have made me pick up a bat and try to swing left-handed, right? I mean, so I, you know, this is what it is." Right. Yeah. I just, never in football do I like it to where it's just like, "First, we can fall camp. This is what we're doing." Right, exactly. And, you know, it's just like, "Wow." Like, nobody on your line has the track record that there should be no competition. Prize picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five million active members. Prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps, on prize picks, it's just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on two to six players' stat projections and watch the winnings roll in, baby. Get in on the daily action with your friends and become part of the prize picks community today. Get in on all the excitement and win up to a hundred times your cash with the summer games on prize picks. With prize picks, you can turn $10 into $1,000 while watching Team USA rack up the gold medals this summer. 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That's indeed.com/bluewire, terms and conditions apply. And to hire, you need Indeed. Zibi 94 by cell hole one of Jadarion price for Jeremiah Love is a top three running back the season talent wise, not stat prediction. I love that caveat and because of that caveat, I'll buy that. I'll buy that. It's not a great, great year at running back. And I think those guys are going to be dynamic. So yeah. In the stat wise thing, if it was about stats, I'd say heck no, because the two of them are going to prevent either of them. But yeah, as far as like just dominance, like Reggie Bush is a sophomore, did not rush for a thousand yards, but you just knew he was even his team's leading rusher, but you just knew that's one of the two, three best running backs of costable because he did so many things. He's so dynamic. So yeah, I'm with you on that. We try to wait, we have a string of these from Ditral Hunter. Okay. He's lining this up. Okay. Just preparing you because sometimes, you know, with, yeah, I got you, Ditral Hunter by cell hole defensive helmet comms is more difficult than signaling in plays on the sideline against the hurry up offense. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would not say that is in comms, you've got to send it to the mic and then he's got a communicator. Nobody else. Right. And they're not always going to use the comms. I mean, they'll still signal in from the sidelines and things like, I would think so. I mean, we've seen Notre Dame offensive plate. Well, I, well, we've seen offensive players for sure. I haven't seen defensive players because I haven't seen them do anything. So, you know, oh, there's another one, ACC or by cell hold, the ACC could deal a devastating blow to the SEC's chances of four playoff teams in week one. Yeah. I mean, let's, let's go through and look at some of those games. Obviously, we know about Clemson versus Georgia is, is the big one. I believe there's a couple other games. So, but to that one, Florida state playing, they've got somebody first that week. They played Georgia Tech in the first game, a week before, they don't play an SEC team. I don't believe until they play Florida state, Florida at the end of the year, gotcha. But that climb, I mean, it's, it's, there's a couple, couple things. Number one, Clemson, Georgia is a big one. If Clemson beats Georgia, that's it. It hurts. It's big. Because, and especially if Clemson ends up not winning the ACC or, let's say hypothetically, that they beat Georgia in a less impressive fashion that they beat, then they beat Florida state. Let's say four state gives Clemson a better game than Georgia does. Well, nice. Okay. Georgia and Clemson, and four state have similar records. You know, what's going to be the tiebreaker and the playoff, okay, well, you, you go there or you just kind of the overall feel for the SEC is maybe not the same because of what they did to them. And, and so when you look at it, then you go down the list of other, some other games and you say, okay, there's, there's Miami against Florida, Miami at Florida. So, I mean, the chess will floor is on a playoff team. It's not the point. The, the question that is I take it from Detroit Hunter is it's the overall view of one league compared to the next, right? And, and, you know, the SEC is considered this. Well, Clemson goes out and beats Georgia, Miami smacks Florida, all of a sudden you're like, well, maybe ACC is pretty, pretty darn good this year, man. Like this league is not playing around. And so I, I certainly think things along those lines are, can, can certainly be factors into how a league is perceived events. But I don't, I don't think there's any question about that, that, that can happen. And then we also see a little bit of that at the end of the year, too, because you do have the Florida, Florida state matchup and you do have Georgia against Georgia Tech. Like let's say Georgia Tech is a middle of the road team in the ACC and they take Georgia down to the wire. Even if they lose, it's kind of like, dude, that's supposedly the best of this league. And they barely beat the middle of the road team at their butts kicked in their league. Like, hmm, I don't know about this, you know, and I think that's all part of it. Absolutely. Absolutely. And, and the Big Ten could deliver a blow to the, to the, like the Big Ten and ACC could combine. Yeah. That's a bigger one, too, because you've, you know, then you've got LSU and USC and USC. Right. Right. Exactly. So it's more of, it would, I think it would take more than those first couple games. I think it's an overall just diminishing of the strength of the Big Ten and it's really the first couple weeks because then you get into the Miami, I mean, the Michigan, Texas game, you know, that game is going to be a little bit interesting, but, and then later in the year two, you got Louisville, Kentucky. So I think the ACC is going to get a lot of chances this year to let the SEC know, like, hey, you're not who you think you are on the field. Hey, we can't compete with you Monday off the field, whatever it is. But when it comes to the, on the field, we can play with you. That's the opportunity now. I don't, they had that opportunity last year as well and they didn't take full advantage of it the way that they could have and should have. But early on, they did, I mean, early on, I mean, that you had North Carolina beat South Carolina, Florida state beat LSU, I mean, that's some good early wins over the SEC last year. Right. They just couldn't completely capitalize on it the way that they needed to, in my opinion. So somebody said Alabama was constant. I didn't really talk about that one because I just don't think Wisconsin's that good. But to the point of the conversation, if we're wrong about Wisconsin, Vince, then sure, that's also true. Because I think that's a week two game, isn't it? I could be wrong. I thought it was a week two game. Yeah, Alabama plays Western Kentucky in week one. So, but yeah, I mean, the, the big, the SEC is going to be tested in certain games outside of conference. Those leagues can do well, it will soften the opinion of the SEC and this assumption that the SEC is this dominant football program, this dominant football conference is way better than everybody else. It, you know, people, they've won all the championships. Again, that's a lot about opportunity, you know, and, and maybe some teams didn't get those opportunities, but, you know, can like a, can a Houston knock off an Oklahoma, you know, there's a lot of opportunities for those teams to take a swing. Somebody G baby in the chat Notre Dame gets a Texas A&M Notre Dame and maybe this is where D troll hunter was coming from Notre Dame's viewed by a lot of people as a sec type of team. Yeah, they go on the road and beat Texas A&M Clemson Beach, Georgia, right? Florida State gets, I mean, USC beats LSU, Miami beats Florida and all of a sudden it's like, SEC's taking body blows, man, like body blows. And then if Michigan can somehow, you know, take out Texas in a couple weeks after that, it's like, okay, that was an uppercut that knocked them down. Can they get back up? Now when we mean get back up, they can an SEC team still may win the title, but I think the conversation here is more of a getting five, four or five six teams into the playoff, which is what the SEC wants. That's where the conversation comes from. So it's going to be interesting, it's going to be fun to watch. I can't wait, come on, I need football games. By so hold, the only way two group of five teams could make a playoff is if Oregon State or Washington State finished the season undefeated also that I don't think that's the only way. I mean, it's the most likely way, but it's not the only way it look, I guess they are considered group of five this year. Yeah, because they're yeah, it's not the only way. I mean, look, it's harder for the group of five to get in now, even in a 12 team playoff, because most of the best group of five teams have been poached. Yes. He's used to use been poached, Utah's been poached, since then that he's been poached. SMU was poached, UCF was poached. Now it's like Memphis and Boise in like, you know, that's kind of where they're at. So it's going to be harder just because the type of teams, but like, you know, Memphis goes out there this year and runs the table, you know, they may be in that conversation, right? I mean, you've got some other teams that are group of five that you say, okay, if you play a tough enough schedule, you know, you might be able to get in there. And it also, here's the other thing. It's also going to require that a lot of the big leagues just annihilate themselves. Yeah. Meaning like you're, you know, that you've got the one team that's the automatic get in, right? You have to have a, you have to have a UCF type of team, not a liberty that they're getting in because they're undefeated against nobody, but a UCF team where UCF was ranked in the top 10. Remember that when the UCF had a couple of really good teams, they were a top 10 team. You have to have that. And then you have to have another really good team that's going against a three to four loss group of four team. So it's not just about that. It's also about like if those teams just kind of beat each other up a lot this year, then I think that could get that second team in. It's going to be hard. It's, it's highly unlikely, highly unlikely, but it's not the only way. So I'm going to sell it as the only way. There are other ways. All of them are unlikely, in my opinion, like I, I think there's a better chance you have to, you have an undefeated liberty and an undefeated Memphis than you do one of those two teams getting into the, yeah, I'm playing off. You know what I mean? A perception wise sure, but if, if, you know, if, if Memphis goes undefeated this year, right, Vince, let's just say, let's say Memphis goes undefeated, you know, they don't play a super daunting schedule, but you know, they got to play at Florida State. That'd be a pretty big one. You know, that, that gets them in, right? Well, who's the other team that could maybe get in? Who's the other team that might have a schedule good enough to get in? You know, that's going to make it a lot tougher. I mean, we'll talk about, let's talk about your boy, your boy Jared Parker, right? I mean, if Troy goes undefeated this year, okay, well, you know, they, they, they would have to do what? They'd have to, well, they can't, they, they'd have to be Memphis. So those two teams play each other. So it's not option. And then they play at Iowa. I was going with the Iowa game because that was kind of my point. You know, let's say, you know, let's say Air Force goes undefeated also. They got to play Baylor on the road. They got to play Oregon State. You know, could they be a team if there's that second undefeated team, maybe if Boise State, let's say Boise State goes undefeated, Vince, they will have had to go on the road and beat Oregon and also beat Oregon State at home. So if, if, if Memphis and Oregon State are both undefeated, I mean, a voice are both undefeated and the one of them's in automatically, right? So if the second one who has that type of victory is matched up against a nine in three, eight and four power five teams, there's a chance, small chance that that second team gets in over that three to four loss power five teams. That makes sense. But like Liberty's not. If Memphis or Boise's undefeated and Liberty's undefeated, they're not getting in. Why? Cause Liberty doesn't play anybody. I mean, their, their schedule is an absolute joke this year, Vince. I mean, and it was a joke last year, Liberty this year, oh yeah, their schedules, Campbell and the Mexico State, UTEP, East Carolina, App State, FIU, Kennesaw State, Jacksonville State, Middle Tennessee, UMass, Western Kentucky, and San Houston State. I, I, they, Memphis deserved to be in over them last year, SMU deserve. They just were undefeated. I'm like, yeah, but who they beat? I don't care if they're undefeated. They played no one. Give me a 10 and two team that played in a good league over that nonsense. So it's possible, it's highly unlikely, but it, there's more past than just that. The next question on the card here from D. Troll Hunter, Ohio State has the best team in the country. If you disregard head coach and quarterback, I don't agree with that. How can you disregard the coaching quarterback though? No, he's, he's, he's trying to have a conversation about the rest of their roster. About the roster. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. I'm still selling that. I don't think it's a given that they have the best team if you disregard those two. I, I still think George is in that conversation. You know, I, I still think Alabama is in that conversation. I think Texas is in that conversation. Even if you disregard the head coach and quarterback for those teams as well. And, and so no, I don't think it's a given. I'm selling that if, if their offensive line was as good as it was two years ago, I'd maybe say yes. That's a pretty important position, Ben. So you, you just listed the three most important parts of a football team that are questions for Ohio State head coach quarterback, which you said we won't talk about. Okay. I'll give you the next one. Oh, line. Right. That's, you know, maybe they're going to be okay, but it's a question mark, just like it is for Notre Dame. So no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm going to sell that, I'm going to sell that. I think Ohio State's a very good team, top five team, but I'm not ready to say that, that they are that another one from D troll hunter by sell hold, Tosh will start in college station. But by the time FSU comes to South Bend, someone beats him out. I kind of feel bad for Tosh Baker, because like you're, you've given everything you've got to this program and you're in your fifth year and the entire fan base is begging for you to not. Yeah. I do kind of feel bad for him for that. And I'm hoping that he goes out there and kicks butt because of that, but yeah, but I'll say this Vince. The best case scenario, some of y'all aren't going to like this. The best case scenario for Notre Dame is that Tosh Baker proves everybody wrong. Absolutely. Because he's a fifth year senior that weighs 320 pounds. Yeah. And he's played the position like that's the ideal scenario. It just, it just is. Now I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I'm saying we should all be as fans rooting for him to be better than we think he's going to be or some of you think he's going to be. I need to see it, Vince. I'm going to hold. I'm going to see how the rest of fall can't plays out because all I can do right now is I had one practice and a comments by the old line coach and both of those show us no evidence that anyone else that may play that position is going to get a shot to play that position. Yeah. So it would just have to be, he plays so poorly that they're forced to put somebody else. Right. Well, again, that could just be coach speak. And so I'm holding because I just want to see how the rest of fall can't place out. If we see some other guys get that shot, then I say, okay, now we have evidence that it is an open competition because here's my thing. I'm good with Tosh starting. If he wins the job, if there's a legitimate conversation, the next buy so hold from him is Pat Coogan, quote unquote, beats out Rocco. Same thing. If Pat Coogan truly beats out Rocco, take the asterisks out and he beat him out. Okay. Cool. Let's roll. But the, I think the, the, the comment behind his next question, his next buy so hold is I'm assuming Dieter Hunter's in the chat. So correct me if I'm wrong. I'm assuming that by putting, you know, air quotes, so to speak around that, you're basically saying like he's going to be kind of given the job and it's not really a beating out. He's going to start but not necessarily beat him out. It'll just be said to beat him out. If you're starting left side of your line are placed there because they're the most experienced, you won't win a championship. You won't compete for a championship because you have a loser's mentality as a coach. It's as simple as that. You play the best players. Now, if those two guys win the starting jobs, that's a different story because they were the best guys for the job. You see what I'm saying, Vince. So it's not even about Pat and Tosh. It's about the mindset of the coach in choosing his starters. If Pat Coogan flat out every single day goes out there and proves himself to be the best left guard on this team, I'll say, "Okay, I'm expecting a much better year out of Pat." Because for him to genuinely beat out those other guys, Rocco Spindler, Sullivan Abscher, those type of players, that means he had to up his game. Let's roll. If I knew the Sullivan Abscher and Emile Wagner and Gerby Lambert and Anthony Knapp are all being given a legitimate chance to win the left tackle job and talk to beat him all out, let's roll. Let's get it, son. I mean, that's how I would feel, Vince. If I think he's being placed there simply because he's the oldest player, that's a problem. That's a huge problem. That means you're not going to have your best five out there. That's the route. So it just comes down to why those guys are starting, not that they are starting. And I hope that that makes sense because it's not about Pat or Tosh. It's about did they truly earn it or were they put in a position where it's like, "Dude, don't blow this." Yeah. You don't suck, I'm going to start you. That's not where you need to be. And I just don't want to get into that right now because I want to just see how the next game is going to have enough information. Because we don't have enough information. Right. And I don't want to emotionally overreact to Rudolph's comments because they weren't good, Vince. No, they weren't. But we've heard coaches say things all the time in our lives that it's like, "Dude, you just said this and we went and spent an hour talking about it on the show and then two days later it's something completely different." Yeah. So I'm just going to let it play out a little bit and see how it goes. So that's what I'm putting a hold on both of those for right now. Cool. To be honest with you. I really want to sell the first one, but I agree with you. I was definitely in wait and see mode for a while. And I wanted to be a wait and see mode because you have all a camp, right? That's why I wanted to be in wait and see mode. His comments last night got me a little hot and bothered. I'll just say that. I wasn't happy with the comments. Well. But again, you're absolutely right. I don't speak. I didn't watch the show. I read Sean's story and I'm just like reading those quotes and I'm like, "Oh my goodness." Yes. Wow. That's the issue that I had. It just sounded way too definitive for my liking on August 6 or whatever it was. So anyway. Another one from D-Troll Hunter by Cell Hold and Nebraska losing their starting left tackle will greatly impact Dylan Rayola's development this season. I'm holding that simply because I don't know enough about who their backup left tackle is. I mean, they may have a young guy waiting in the wings. It's maybe not ready yet, but it's a talented player. Right. Because my understanding is I asked D-Troll Hunter actually, when I saw his chat, I texted him and asked him. I didn't know that Nebraska lost their left tackle. So he told me that they did and I just don't know who the next guy is. Yeah. So I don't know enough about their own line situation. Now if the replacement is just not a very good player, then yes, that'll hurt his development because he won't be comfortable in the pocket all year. And that's not where you want to be with a young guy. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Another one from D-Troll by Cell Hold, Jagasal will be back for ball practices, but not clear to play and just do drills. So I had somebody text me the other day that said that they were told that this is a six to eight month thing, which would mean he would not be back. Yeah. That's a long time. Holy cow season. Now you're talking about spring ball. I mean, if it's eight months, that would get him right into April, but six months would get him into February, August, September, October, November, December, January, February, seven months. Okay. Right. Because he had the surgery beginning of August. So September is one full month or August, one full month. Did I do it right? August, September, October, November, November, it would be September, October, November, November, November, November, November. No, because from August 3rd, when he had the surgery to September 3rd is a whole month of recovery. Right. That's one month. Right. August. Well, you're counting it differently than I am. Go ahead. So from August to September is a month. It's a number to October. We're just saying it differently. When I say September, I'm saying he's had a month. That's one. Okay. October is two. We're saying the same thing. We're just saying it. So August to September is one, September to October is two, October to November 3, November to December is four. Right. All right. Did I miss a month? Nope. And then December to January 5, January 2, February 6, and then February to March is seven. Right. Right. So six to eight would get him back for spring ball. Yeah. So hopefully, hopefully that's the case. Yeah. But he definitely won't. I mean, if that timeline is accurate, he definitely won't be back for bold facts. Which stinks, yeah. By sell hold, the Notre Dame D line versus Texas A&M's O line battle is far more one-sided in Notre Dame's favor than the A&M D line versus Notre Dame's O line, even with the injury to Jagasau. I'm going to sell that because of the way more is far more comment. A week ago, I probably would have bought that. But without Jagasau, I don't think it's far more one-sided than it was then. So I'm going to sell that. Do I still think that that advantage is greater? Do I still think that the Notre Dame offensive line has a better chance of holding up against Texas A&M than Texas A&M's offensive line has against holding up against Notre Dame? Yes. But it's much closer than it was a week ago before Charles Jagasau went down, yes. I don't think it's like super close, close, close, like I think some in the chat think, but it's closer. It's definitely closer. This is the match up that nobody's talking about though. I agree. That's the problem. I didn't even click at that time. It went backwards. That's kind of wild. But from Rizzo Dog by Sellhold, at the end of the year, the O-line will be viewed as the weakest link of the team. The thing about these kinds of questions and queries and submissions is the O-line could be really good and that's also the weakest link. I don't think by the end of the year anything on the team is going to be considered weak. But it's kind of like if I have the 10 best players in the country, they're all great players. But who's number 10? It's got to be two. Yeah. You know what I mean? Okay. So of the great place, I guess you're the worst. So it depends on how you want to use the term. So I'm going to take him at the standpoint of weakest link meaning like a problem. And if that's the case, I don't think that's, I'm not, I'm going to hold that, but I'm leaning towards selling it because like, I still think as frustrated as I am by what Joe Rudolph said about the left side of the line yesterday, I still think Ashton Craig, Billy Shrouthe and Emil Wagner got a chance to be pretty good. You know, so, but could it be the, if I was ranking the position groups, is there a chance that by the end of the year, the O-line is ranked at the bottom as a chance? There's definitely chance and that's concerning. And I would not have said that a week ago. But again, it's kind of like, okay, secondary, linebacker core, D-line, receiving core, running backs and quarterback and tight end, that's a lot of really, really good groups potentially. You know, and I would have said in 2018, I would have absolutely said with no question that the weakest link on the Clemson football team was their offensive line relative to how it's been, it was, if I was ranking all of Clemson's position groups, the O-line would have been at the bottom. That's what, they were still good. The O-line was still good and they won a championship, right? So it just depends on, are they the 10th bet or they, so be, say quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end, O-line, D-line, linebacker, corner safety, special teams. Let's just go, that's 10, okay? If the offensive line is 10th, Notre Dame could still go out and win a title if they're pretty good and everything else is excellent. I mean, that's the, it just depends on, are they 10th because everything else is so good or they 10th because they weren't good? That's the question mark and I don't know the answer to that. So in the spirit of the other ways asking the question, I'm going to hold on it because I just want to see how the offensive line shakes out the next couple of weeks. But I'm much more leaning towards buying that than I would have been a week ago. And that's concerning. Or matter of fact, two days ago, yeah, I was going to say, yeah, two days and three hours ago, right. Riker frog with the buy sell hole, there will be at least two different offensive line rotations this season. Yeah. I mean, like two different starting lineups. Yeah, I think that's kind of how I cook it. Look, I think so, because someone's going to get banged up. Someone's not going to, I mean, yeah, I think there'd be some changes, I mean, we saw it last year. Well, yeah, the last few games, you and then the bowl game and then the bowl game. If no name's not in the playoff, then there's definitely going to be that. No, there's going to be opt outs. Yeah, good call. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, that's a huge, that's an easy buy for me. I mean, there you just, you know, 16 game season or whatever you think Notre Dame is going to play the chances of one guy not playing one game, I think that's pretty high. Andrew Gomorn in the chat made a point that backs up what I was talking about, man. So he goes, Alabama was a playoff team last year and their O line was definitely the week, the weakest. It's very true. There's been several teams like that in recent years. Oh, yeah. If you had to rank their position groups one to 10, the O lines near the bottom, but it's because that's how good they are. Not correct. O line sucks. Right. But I'll also counter this, but their O line is why Alabama lost to Michigan also. So again, if you're talking about competing for a championship, yeah, you can still be a good team this year, but you're not compete for a championship because Alabama had a typical Alabama O line. They beat Michigan. So it doesn't keep you from being really good, but it can keep you from winning a championship. If it's, if it's 10th because it's a concern, Clemson in 2018, their O line was the lowest because they just didn't have the talent of other positions. But Clemson had no weaknesses in 20, 20, 18, they were the only weakness they had was youth. But by the time they got to the postseason, that wasn't a weakness anymore and they were good everywhere. And that's usually how the best teams are. This episode is brought to you by our good friends at NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. I'm sure by now you've all got back into your Sunday routines, but they could be even better. 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So yeah, one I would buy two I would sell by cellhold Notre Dame's wide receivers on the field in 24 will close the Notre Dame wide receiver perception problem gap. This is similar to the one from earlier events, right? And we both are buying that both are buying that easy buy on I was I was on the show with Colqueville Colqueville yesterday on on the on the on the ESPN show that he does with Craig Mackerel. I don't think Greg was there, but I was he was asking about other position. I brought up Chris Mitchell. He said, I called a couple of his games that guy can play. I mean, he Malik's I years another one. I didn't hear Malik say this, but Sean told me Malik said this, but Malik had some FIU games last year. Oh, really? Does play by play for CBS? I did not know that. And he loved him. He's like that guy can that guy can fly. I mean, these are former big time, you know, power five, Cole played at Auburn Malik played at Notre Dame was a starter Notre Dame before his injuries that no, I mean, he played Will Fuller. And I mean, he note Malik's I hear knows what a fast and a talented receiver looks like. He flew to one, you know what I'm saying? And for him to be like that, that dude's really good. That tells me something. Same thing with Cole, you know, with Cole, because that guy's knows football. And so when he tells me that he's an SEC guy, when he tells me this guy's good football player, you listen. And you know, then you got both Collins, who's probably been their most impressive receiver so far in fall camp, Jane Greathouse is a dude, you know, Jordan Faison looks really I mean, he looked really good yesterday, Vincent, and what we were watching him running routes and stuff. I mean, this is going to be a good receiving core. Yes. And it will change a lot of perception. 100% feel very, very good about that 100%. I think I missed one. Yeah, no, we got both of them. Yep. Jim Halloran by cell hold, Marcus Freeman makes more staff changes after this season. One O line coach to D line coach. I'm going to sell that now is the D line coach. The staff change on Notre Dame's end, or is that because he's leaving on his own. I took his question to be a negative towards those two. Okay. Okay. But I'm going to an answer and I'm going to open it up just in general. I could see it if it's about Washington gets a decordinator job next year. Right. That's the way I do that to sure. Sure. Sure. I'll say this. The answer to this is a sell because I hope that Joe Rudolph does not give any reason to be let go after this season. I hope that that's the case because that's good for Notre Dame. If he doesn't get the job done this year, then I mean, you have to make a move at certain positions, you have to make a move if you're not good enough. Right. I'm not advocating for firing somebody. I'm saying like, you got to get better there, whatever that decision is, bringing in an analyst or whatever the case may be, but you cannot afford to not be great on the O line. Which is how that Notre Dame has. Right. You can't afford to be. I agree completely. So, I'm going to sell that just because I don't think Joe Rudolph is going to be that. Like he's, I don't think he's a bad coach. He's never had a bad, he never had a bad line at Wisconsin. What makes me think he's going to have a bad line in Notre Dame? It just isn't going to be championship caliber. That's the question. Right. And I don't think there's any conversation about getting rid of how Washington right now. Like, yeah, the recruiting is kind of better. Like coach, one of the bestie lines in college football last year, and it's going to supposedly have one of the bestie lines in college football this year. So if you're going to lose him, it may be I got a higher new D line coach because I Washington has got a D coordinate. Yeah. Right. That would be, that would be the reasoning for it. Agreed. So if that's the case, Jim, then I, I'd be willing to buy that potentially, but I would hold on that part, like with that caveat because I, because of the two coaching spots, like I don't know about O line yet. I need more information. I mean, I would even be more willing to answer this question after game one, to be honest with you. But the, the, the second one with the D line coach, I don't think he's leaving because something negative happened and he gets fired. I just, I would have a hard time to either one. I don't see that having really with either one, I wouldn't be honest. Okay. Fair enough. But maybe that's wishful thinking on the first, I'll take just trying to be positive. Chris, why buy, sell, hold, Charles Jaggis, all will eventually move inside with a younger lineman taking over at tackle. I'm going to sell that for now, because I don't know who that young lineman is going to be. I mean, right now they're two best young lineman or right tackles. Well, and the offensive line coach just told us that can't play left tackle apparently. Right. I will also say that I think the talent level is deeper at the inside than it is on the outside. So why would you take talent away from the outside and move it inside? So I, that's why I would sell it. I would, I would say like, look, if, if you're talking about, let's say this, let's say a meal Wagner comes out and he's a stud this year and you go into next summer, Charles is coming back. I know you're going back where you're going, but the gear be Lambert just takes off. So now he's the left tackle. Well, no, no, not even there. Like you're looking at, I say, okay, our five best lineman are some combination of Ashton Craig, Billy, Shrouthe, Charles Jaggosall, Gerby Lambert and the meal Wagner, like that's our best five. Then you move Jaggos. What's the scenario that gets those five on the field? Right. Right. Because the other two can't, they're not moving inside. Those are meals. Definitely not moving inside. I don't think anyway, right, uh, wouldn't shock me. I mean, I think a meal could play guard. He's light, but he's athletic. He could maybe play. Sure. I wouldn't want him there. I'd rather have him on the edge, but I could see it. I could see Gerby playing inside. I just don't think that's his best position. I think they're, but where Charles, like to me, I feel like when people ask this question, they ask it from a negative viewpoint, like they don't think Charles can play tackle. I don't know where that view comes from. I have no idea. That's not the way I took that. But yeah. Okay. Let me see that because we've seen Charles play one game at left tackle and he looked pretty good for a true freshman, I thought, um, but there's this narrative and I don't know where it's coming from with their name fans that they just don't think he can play tackle. Like, and I've said, I think Charles could be an elite guard. I could be an elite guard, but so if I move him, it's because I think he can be a special Quentin Nelson esque type guard, not quite that good, but like, you know what I'm saying? It's not that he can't play tackle. And so I just, I think, look, you've got to figure out what gives you your best five. Maybe that's moving a meal inside. Maybe that would be moving Gerby inside. Maybe that's moving Charles inside. But there could be a scenario where your best players are that. Now the other side is, well, what if one of your best five, Sullivan absure and he's got to play. Well, now you're not moving Charles, Jack and so on, because well, an absure is more of a guard than he is a tackle. So it just depends on what do, who are the, who are the young lineman that emerge that try to force that? Hey, I got to figure out a way to get Sullivan absure on the field. Well, that's most likely going to mean you're playing him a guard. And with Charles, Jack is all coming off of a shoulder injury. I don't want to move him inside where he's getting banged on his shoulder on both sides. Now, let's say this is from what I saw yesterday, Vince, it looked like his right shoulder was the one that was in a sling. So his outside shoulder is, it was not the one that was hurt. So I just, I would say, let's just, let's just pump the brakes a little bit on, on moving guys and just see who emerges this season. Yeah, just, you know, I have a buddy like that. God love him. My buddy, Tony, every time that I'm getting a kid, he starts talking about where they can move them. I'm like, dude, I'm going to punch you in the face like you guys. You're going to stop this man, like every kid, you think this kid could play with that? I'm like, no, I think you could play the position that then I'm recruited to play. Right. Yeah. All right, give me a sec. I don't know. I don't know why it does this just randomly decides how we're done. We're not going to move now. We're done. Yeah. Two more events and then two more cards and then we're ready to roll bracket cover three. Oh, I like that. Okay. Bicell hold Notre Dame 2024 defensive line. Is there deepest in the last 20 plus years? It's going back a ways. Deepest I say. Yeah. Deepest. Will it be the best? Different question. Deepest. I don't know that I can remember Notre Dame defensive line that could go three deep the way this one could go. Yeah, exactly. Go 12. I mean, like when Gabriel Rubio comes back especially, your third team defensive line would be this, Bryce Young, Junior Tuila Maka, or Buba Carr, one of those two, Donovan Hainish and Armel Mukam or Devin Houston. That's your third string defensive line. No, I don't know that I've ever seen a Notre Dame team. And my adult life that could do that, put that group out as your third stringers. And we still haven't talked about Brennan Vernon, right, Dan Houston, if he's not the other guy. Yeah. Sean Savilano. Right. Cole Mullins. Like we're not even Logan Thomas. We're not even getting to those guys because that's four team. So no, I don't know that I've never seen a team this deep now again, deepest is different than best. Deepest is the question and that one I absolutely, I absolutely say, yes, I'm buying that easily with the way that he phrased it. Sure. The next question from bracket cover three by cell hold, Marcus Freeman is the ideal head coach for Notre Dame football relative to the extraordinary challenges, NIL portal, etc. of the current recruiting space and college football culture. I'm actually going to buy that Vince. I mean, and he's a great fit at Notre Dame. There's no doubt about that. Here's why I'm buying that relative to the question that's being asked is Marcus Freeman's old enough to still understand the importance of all the things that make a great football team. He played under Jim Trussell, right? He coached under him. He, you know, he, he still understands there's some things you got to believe in toughness and all that, you know, line play and all that is also young enough to not only be, you know, quote unquote, the cool guy, just, you know, not not acting cool, but just his he's young enough to where he, you know, he had his wardrobe, you know, all of that stuff. Yeah. I could relate to my players way better when I was coaching than I could now, yeah, because we kind of listened to the same music. I wasn't faking it like I was only five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten years older than them. It's like, they're still listening to the music that I listen to now to them. It's like, Oh, you listen to that old stuff? I love that. You know what I mean? So like it, but it wasn't fixed now. It's like, who's, who's big, who's Tupac, who, what's, what's a Wu Tang clan? You know what I mean? Like, you know, it just be a little harder to relate to them. You know, I can't relate to the notion of just not having your head down all the time, not playing outside. Those are all things I can't relate to that. So it's just, so I think he can relate in that regard by just being himself, but also he's old enough to where he doesn't want to be their friend. You know what I mean? He's not that coach. But the other part of it too, Vince, is he's also young enough and not even young enough. He also has the personality to where he understands tradition, but he also understands we've got a, we've got to be innovative with where this thing is going, where a lot of older coaches are kind of like, no, I don't want to change. I like the way that it was and I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to get into that. And so I also think he doesn't have enough of a track record where he can sit there and say, nope, my way is the way to do it. You know, he understands like, look, we've got to be thoughtful about this. So I think that's a fair thing to say. In some instances, his youth, youthfulness as a coach has created some issues, but in handling this stuff, I think it's helpful because he played in like a coach in his 50s cannot relate to the notion of, you know, 50s and 60s cannot relate to the notion of players deserving to get paid. They just can't relate to it because they remember what it was like when they played when it wasn't everybody's on national TV. And it was just you were playing because you loved the game. Marcus Freeman's a guy that played in college in front of 100,000 people every week and was on national TV every week and saw the stuff going on and the money that was being made. And he's like, you know, I'm more sympathetic to the fact that players need to begin a little bit of something than, than maybe what an older coach would be. Yeah, and, and then how to handle that. And those, so I think, I think in a lot of ways that makes a lot of sense. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to buy that. And yeah, his, you know, his biggest selling point to a lot of kids is just a relationship piece and he's just very good at talking to kids and forming those relationships. He just is. And because he's young, whether that is something that, I mean, he can't control his age, obviously, but because he's young, and I've seen this a million times, whether it's in coaching or teaching, right, when you, when you're around kids, the younger you are, the more they just automatically trust you and assume you're like, exactly. And that's just, that's just the way it is, man. And, and he has a way of just utilizing that as an in to make relationships with kids. I'm not saying they're not genuine and all that because you have to have an in with a kid. You have to. And a lot of times that's his in. And he is quote, unquote, cool. I mean, he just is, you know, moms love him. The kids love him. You know, it's down the, it's down the line. So I see the reaction that people get when he walks into a room and it is multi generational and, but it's especially the youth for sure. Barack it cover three by cell hold. The NCAA is afraid to impose penalties on teams that break their own rules. For example, and I yell in fractions, in part due to political and ideological reasons, they're afraid of quote, bad press or lawsuits by special interest groups by easiest by the show. Yeah. By their cowards and, and, and then they're going to go, they're going to go, you know, try to go hard on some team that nobody cares about or they go like head coach that they have no control over. If I'm a group of five team, I am following the rules to the T right now, because like, dude, what was that old expression that, you know, it was like, you know, Kentucky cheated so bad that they got like some other team that nobody cares about put on probation. Yeah. I mean, like exactly. Like man, if you're, if you're Eastern Michigan, you better Chris Creighton, man, you better be following the rules. Cause if Michigan keeps on cheating, they're going to come at you. You know what I mean? It's true though. I mean, look, they already came down with the sanctions for, for, uh, Harbaugh, right? I mean, he's going to be suspended and all he's not even a college coach anymore. So they came down super hard on him because they really have no control over him anymore. You know what I mean? Like that is the most cowardice thing I've ever seen. Like, it's one of those things where you kind of, you kind of have to do something to him because you can then create a show cause in case he ever comes back to college. And whatever team hires him has to live by that. Sure. I understand that they did it, but like the stuff that he got in trouble for was a ways back. Like he could have been dinged for it a long time ago. Well, I mean, you can't ding someone until an investigation is kind of run its course. But I, I understand the point that you're making. I do. And I don't necessarily disagree with it. I'm, I'm simply saying like you did have to levy upon, if you found out he was in the wrong, you still have to levy a punishment against him. The thing that would bother me is why are you doing that? Why are you kind of going hard on him? But then not the other people bingo right that that that I'm fine with. But like, yes, you have to punish harp if you like to me, it's like I could, I could truly accept the fact that Jim Harbaugh did not know certain things were going on. But that's because Jim Harbaugh chose not to ding go. And that to me is the same as like, you know, you know, something bad's happening, but I'm just going to my own business. Ignorance is not an excuse. I hear that woman screaming in the room next door, but I'm just going to my, I don't know what happened. I mean, you technically don't have a clue what happened, but because you chose to not, yeah, you know, I'm just going to, I don't need that in my life, you know, well, you're a coward. I mean, you know, it's your program, dude. Right. Exactly. And, you know, like, are there things you say, well, like, look, that's not why Michigan won. And to a degree, they, you know, this particular game, but you can't ignore the fact that that that cheating. I mean, it was even worse than I thought what they're saying. Oh my God. It's so bad. It is worse than I thought. Yeah. Like they cheated even more than I thought that has an impact on winning games. It absolutely does. And what, what do they saw, the record that Michigan had before, oh my gosh, it was 42 and 26 and the record after 43, yeah. And your three losses were to a five point loss to Michigan state, Georgia and the college will play off and then TCU and the college will play off. It's randomly you got way better. Yes. Now, is that the only reason? No, he did make coaching changes. They did land up some good players, certain positions. Jim Harbowski coach, they, he's a heck of a coach. So yes, I expected them to get better, but you don't go from that to this. Exactly. And, and, and just sit there and say, well, cheating had no, is cheating the only reason that, that Michigan was better? No. As, as Ryan and I have talked about in the past, cheating is not the reason Aidan Hutchison beat the crap out of your offensive lineman and your, and your team clunked out years ago. Right. It's not because of cheating, but you also can't ignore and say it had no impact on winning losing games. Cause otherwise, why would they cheat? Like, here's the thing, if it doesn't help you win, then why are you doing it? Exactly. For an extended period of time. Right. Why are you doing it? If it gives you no, if it gives you no advantage whatsoever in winning games, why are you doing it? Just cause I like wasting money and spending it on tickets of things that are not going to help me at all. Right. I mean, it just, it's, it's ridiculous. And, and the, the thing for me is, and, and I know fan base of this way, but it's kind of like, do you get that a point where, you know, I don't respect the Michigan fan base anyway. There's a couple guys that cover the team that I like, I, I like Chris Bowles. He and I have always gotten along. But there's a lot of people cover the game, which is morons, let's be honest. And, and they're fans. It's like, you guys are just make, you, you're not a very liked fan base, cause you're just kind of dumb. And the fact that you guys aren't willing to say, Hey, this isn't okay, man. Like, right. Exactly. Hey, we earned our championship, but I acknowledge this looks really bad. They're not willing to do that. They're not even willing to do that. They're just like, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, you know what I mean? Like, and, you know, I guess it's probably stupid of me to expect a mission, you know, many Michigan fans. Cause I'm at, like I said, we've been Antoine Johnson in chat. That's been around in a while. I've always found him to be someone you could have conversation with every other Michigan fan has jumped in our chats, been an idiot that doesn't know how to like have a conversation with anyone beyond a 50 IQ. I mean, it just, and then I'm willing to engage like Archer and I have had some back and forth where I, I think he's got a very old pro house date fan base point of view, but is at least defend it. He can defend it in a way where I'm like, okay, I understand where you're coming from. We just don't agree. But then there's that, then there's just, you're just, you know, I just say, say, put your, put, say, just take a step back as a fan and say, if this happened to my rival, how would I feel about it? Exactly. All of the things that they've said, if Ohio State did that, how would I feel about it? Be screaming from the mountain. And I say the same, well, Ohio State fans will cry about what happened back with Jim Trestle. And I'm like, guys, if Michigan got in trouble for the same exact thing that you don't think is a big deal, you guys would be wanting them to forfeit every game. And you remember that the whole like selling the little gold pants things and selling merch and all that. Remember, Terrell Pryor, Mike Adams, and Devere Posey and all that kind of stuff. If, if that would have happened at Michigan, Ohio State fans would've been crying for the, the death penalty for them as a football program. Let's be honest about that. So when it happens to you, you should, you should be willing to say the same thing to some degree. If Ohio State, if, if what we, Michigan was accused of would have happened Ohio State, there would be no louder fan base about how Ohio State's program should be done away with than Michigan fans. That's the reality of it. We just don't have intellectually honest fans in a lot of instances, you know? And I know, and I'll say it's credit to Notre Dame fans. Every fan base has people like that. But I know a lot of Notre Dame fans over the years that have been like, that's not okay. When the young student passed away a few, you know, decade ago, tragically, a practice, I know a lot of Notre Dame fans that were not okay with that. Some made excuses for this, but I, and I, and I don't know enough about the situation, no, whether it could have been avoided or not. I'm not trying to get into that. What I'm saying is, I know a lot of Notre Dame fans that were willing to say, that's not okay. You don't just brush that under the rug props to them. There's other things that have happened. We're just like, a lot of Notre fans say, Hey, nope, that's not okay. Like, that's too far. I'll defend you for this, but I can't go there for that. That's how, to me, fan base should be. Whatever you are defending, stop for a second and say, well, what if USC did this, or what did Michigan did this, or what if Ohio State did this? And if you'd still say, I'd defend it, honestly look at it that way. I'll just say it. No, I'd support it. No, no, no, I'd totally be okay with it. No, you wouldn't. Right. No, you wouldn't. But unfortunately, the NCA, like, the people on, oh, they should be vacating when it's why. That's the dumbest thing ever. No, you know what they should do? They should find them millions of dollars and fire everyone that was associated with it. That's what should be done. I mean, they said, Charon Moore deleted like 50 some text messages. I mean, you're clear. You know you do something wrong. You knew you were cheating. You tried to hide that you were cheating. Right. I'm sorry. That's a fireable offense to me. Right. He's like the only guy left on staff that hasn't left the NFL. Hmm. I hate to say it, but, you know, something's got to happen. Something's got to happen. Somebody said 53 texts a day, the news broke, which meant he knew what was happening. Right. Exactly. Uh oh. That cover our tracks. Exactly. You know, so you knew something's got to be done, man. You know, and otherwise, we would say, well, if that's all that's going to happen to them. And that's exactly what is going to happen. There's nothing but. Okay. We'll see. Maybe I'll be real quick, though, eyes. There was a comment here by that I attributed to detrial hunter that I just messed up in the chat. So I wanted to get this right. This right here, I attributed to detrial hunter and I apologize. This was actually Owen and D. Owen, Owen, D 15. So it's like Owen and then Andy 15 got you. So Owen, Andy 15, I apologize for not giving you due credit for this. I'm sorry that I attributed this to you, but I did the card wrong. And I thought I had fixed that, but I thought that I had it right, but apparently I did not. So I apologize. But I like giving people their credit because if I was in a fan show, I think it'd be kind of cool to see like my handle on the screen and all that. So I do apologize for not getting that right. 100% 50. Well, that's it, right? That's going to do it for this edition of buy, sell, hold. Thanks for everybody for participating because we can't really have a buy, sell, hold. If we don't have our subscribers participating and giving us stuff to talk about. So thank you guys for participating. Again, if you want to be a part of the buy, sell, hold show, you got to be a member boards that I was breakdown.com. It's the best investment you'll ever make. That's what I'm saying. The best investment a fan can make. Sports investment. Yes. Yeah, there you go. I don't want to, I don't want to be too crazy here, but invest in your children, your wife, your families, after that, as I say here on my 20th wedding anniversary, saying that the boards are the best investment you can make. But anyway, you also get board access for free. It's also true. This is also true. So, hey, make sure you jump on the boards, folks. It's a lot of good stuff over there. And again, there's a good Intel piece over there today. But if you're not a member of the board, you're missing out. So, and then, of course, like, subscribe to tonight, by the way. Yeah. Okay. I knew you weren't sure. Okay. It's all good. Fair enough. So, like, subscribe. Hit that notification bell. Share with your family and friends. Appreciate you guys being around tomorrow is Thursday. And I have to say, I don't remember, we're doing the big 12 preview, but what position are we doing? Do you remember? No. Because I think we're done with the position. Oh, okay. We were going to talk about pass game stuff. So, like, gotcha. Okay. What the Notre Dame offense and the Notre Dame defense needs to do to improve in the pass game overview. Yes. I believe that's what it was. Yep. I just found it. It is. Okay. Pass game overview offense. It'll be kind of two sections. You know, what does the defense need to do to? I think the defense is more of the pass rush. Okay. And then the offense will be more of, like, what do they need to do to improve? Cool. And then what does defense need to do to maintain the coverage part of what we talked about to still be good? Like, what are some of the question marks there? But awesome. It'll be, it'll be partly just overall pass game stuff. Cool. So, join us tomorrow for pass game talk. And then, of course, we're going to do the big 12 preview. And then, of course, Fridays, Friday free for all mail bags. So we're going to be finishing the week. Super strong. Can't wait. And then today, also this evening, in about eight and a half minutes, we've got Ivy Nation Sports Talk. So make sure you tune in for that. I've been perusing the rapid fire questions before the, before this show. And we've got some good stuff to talk about there. So, hey, go take a restroom break. Get a snack. Come on back at five o'clock, and we'll have some fun at Ivy Nation Sports Talk. So, until then, this is Brian. This is Vince, and we will talk to you next time on the, on the Irish Breakdown Podcast. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO]
