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Bicell Hold question Notre Dame wins three plus more games than Auburn this season. So very interesting that you bring up Auburn. John, wonder why wink wink wink. So let's look at it. Auburn, they play Alabama A&M to win the win. They play Cal should be a win, but I like Cal's team this year. More than most people do and Cal almost beat him last year. They played in the Mexico game three should be a win. So they got three definite wins in their schedule. In my opinion, they have four definite losses on their schedule at Georgia at Missouri at Kentucky at Texas, I mean, at Alabama. So then after that, Vince, it comes down to how are they going to handle the rest of their games? You know, Arkansas should be a win, but, you know, Arkansas's, you know, decent team. Oak or has decent talent, I should say, you have Oklahoma at home. It's going to be tough. You have Vanderbilt at home should be a win. University of Lizzaman wrote as a win. I should probably throw those two in there too as kind of locks as a win. Yeah. So so you're looking at five and then you got Texas A&M at home. So like once you get that past those five kind of gimmies, although I don't think I'd put Cal as a gimme, I definitely wouldn't put Cal. Yeah, I'd say it's going to have, they should win. They should win it because they're at home, right? And they did beat Cal at Cal last year, but, but okay. So how are they going to do in those other games? So let's say they beat Arkansas. I don't know that they're going to be Oklahoma at home. They have a shot. They're going to lose to Georgia, lose to Missouri, lose to Kentucky, beat Vanderbilt, beat UM, lose to Bama. So now comes down to your six and five at that point in time. Six and fives is, you know, seven and four at best. How do you do against Texas A&M at home the week before the iron bowl? That's going to be the big key. If they can beat, you know, if they can win that A&M game and handle their business, you know, at home against, you know, against teams like Arkansas and Oklahoma, then, then Auburn has a chance to win eight games this year. I, you know, I, I don't know that they will, but they have a chance to win eight games this year. I think their name is 11 and one team. So I, I, I, I'm buying it, right? Because that's what I see happening, but I do think Auburn's schedule sets up enough to where they have a shot outside shot at going nine and three, but most likely eight and four or seven and five is more of what I think to be a realistic, realistic result for them. I, their talent is, is good. It's not like it has been in the past. Brian Harson did not recruit real well. They had a very good freshman class coming in, especially receiver, but they, they also had a lot of losses. So I just, and I'm not a huge, huge patent thorn believer at quarterback. So unless, you know, I think they got a portal guy and they got some younger guys that maybe could battle him, but you know, he's projected starter right now. I'm just not in love with Auburn this season. So look, as much as I think Hugh Fries is a scummy human being, he's good football coach. And he's, he wins. I mean, at most places he's been, I think this Auburn is a little bit of a different situation though, it's a little bit of a different animal. And I'm curious to see how he's going to do to be completely honest with you. It's a huge buy for me. So I'll just say that all of your analysis, 100% accurate. I just don't see Auburn winning more than about seven games and that's kind of like I said, I had them at eight and four at, you know, at most likely and I have no name 11 and one. That's a three plus, but I just think their schedule is set up to where if they're better than I think they're going to be, maybe they could win nine, but that's going to be tough. But then it, even if they win nine, there's a chance their name wins 12, right? Exactly. And they're still three plus better than Auburn. Right. I like Notre Dame's chances to be three plus better, three to three plus. I agree. I like it. I buy it. Prize picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five million active members. Prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps on prize picks, it's just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on two to six players stat projections and watch the winnings roll in, baby. Get in on the daily action with your friends and become part of the prize picks community today. Get in on all the excitement and win up to a hundred times your cash with the summer games on prize picks. With prize picks, you can turn $10 into a thousand dollars while watching team USA rack up the gold medals this summer. 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That's indeed.com/bluewire. Terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? You need Indeed. Joe Allen, 72 by cell hold, Mike Denver, will be more successful offensive coordinator this tenure because the talent that he has around him between the players and coaches is significantly better than his previous time in Notre Dame. Well, if you're talking about just offense, I'm going to disagree with that. What I'll say is that the talent that he has is much deeper, but let's not forget when he was here the first time his first two years, he had Everett Golson, Malik Sire, DeShawn Kaiser quarterback, he didn't have bums at quarterback. He had Will Fuller, Chris Brown, Amir Carlisle, 2015, you had freshman miles, Boykin and, you know, you had 2016, you had Kevin Stefferson, Javon McKinley, Chase Claypool, you had some dudes, man. Josh Adams, CTA pro size, Alize Mack, Durham Smythe, and then let's not forget that his offensive line in 2015 was left to right, a first round pick, a first round pick, a second round pick, a guy that would have been picked probably day three, if he would have not retired from football after three years to go work in politics and a first round pick. So you know, now, now here's the thing, the talent on defense, I think is a lot better at certain spots. But again, you had Jalen Smith on those teams that Mike Denbrock was the OC on his first two years. You had a lot of NFL players, those teams had no depth in the coaching on the defensive side of the ball was not good. I actually think the offensive side of the ball, the coaching, I mean, Harry, he stands your own line coach, right? I mean, quarterback coach, that was a problem. You're better there now with, you know, good deal compared to Mike Sanford running back to coach. You're definitely better now. So I mean, I would say overall, the offensive staff is better, but he had a pretty darn good old line coach. And to me, that's the most important assistant coach that you can have. Yeah. That gap for me is if, if Joe, if you're going to talk about the entire team, then I can buy that because they had really bad depth on defense, but more importantly, the, because he talks about coaching is all between players and coaches is better. If you throw the defensive side of the ball in there, then it's way, then I'm buying the heck out of this because you went from Brian Van Gorder to Al Golden. And that is light years, light years better than what he had to deal with this time because like in 2015, if the offense had a bad day, they, they, they might not win that score. I mean, you know, and not just against the good teams, it gets Virginia. I mean, you give them 20 points in the first half to flipping UMass UMass. It was 28 20 around close to halftime. Remember CJ, uh, CJ Sanders returned that punt return right before halftime to kind of break it open. 28 20, I believe coming into that point time. And then they blew it open in the second half. But I mean, everybody moved the ball on that team back then with Jaylen Smith and Sheldon Day and in Jerron Jones and Isaac Rochelle and Cole Luke and Kavari Russell and Max Redfield and Elijah Shoemayton and Matthias Farley and James Anwa with all those guys, team still went up down the field on you because you had one of the worst defensive coordinators. And in my opinion, the history of knowing football and they're not being hyperbolic. So if you're a school team, bye. More successful. Oh, see, what are we talking about more successful team wins or more successful offense? Both because the offense, I mean, the only average 34 points is in that 2015 season. Okay. You know, I mean, I, I think they averaged more than 34 points this year. Oh, I do too. You know, I think there'll be a more efficient offense this year than they were in 2015. Sure. Okay. Partly because of the talent, you know, but, but successful wins and losses, that's where I think the big difference is Vince, because of what's on the other side of the ball. Like I'll just say if they had a Brian Van Gogh, Brian Van Gogh or caliber DC right now, are we at all talking about the casual playoffs for not a chance, not a chance, not a chance. We're talking about maybe a 10 and three season, which is what they were. They were, they were 10 and two in the regular season that year. So I mean, and it was because a lot because of the offense, honestly, in a lot of those instances. You know, yeah, if we're just talking offense, a slightly by it, just because the depth is better and the overall coaching staff slightly better. But the reason if you're talking whole team, then significant, easy by because of how bad Brian Van Gogh is, but also good in my opinion, Mike Debrock is like 35 points a game is going to go a lot further with this coaching staff than it did sure because they won't be giving up as many. Right. Yeah. That's kind of where I was coming from on that Christopher Crosby by cell hold with the new coaching rules in place teams should treat their staffs a lot like they do. Their rosters develop good young coaches to have in place to take over when other position coaches leave for other jobs, meaning those younger guys can like the analysts and things like that are allowed to coach. And so you, you bring them on and you kind of coach them up, so to speak and try to keep them in house and in all of that. I hadn't really thought of that Vince, but especially like Notre Dame, I think it's really smart. I'll buy that. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a, I would much rather have a guy come in. I mean, look, you're always looking for the best coaches to coach, right? But it makes that a lot easier if a guy is coming in and he already knows kind of the way you do things and what you're, excuse me, what your expectations are and things like that. You know, you bring in a guy, you know, like Max Bulla, for example, right? He was a graduate assistant. He was a for all intents and purposes. He was the linebacker coach last year, but you know, you keep him on. You make him the official linebacker. So leery was that way, so leery was that way, right, right? And so I mean, there, there's some credence to that. I think I would much rather train up my guys than trying to go find guys. That was a rarity though in the past. Sure. Right. That was and guys like that were anomalies. I think now that you can have analysts, because analysts are different than GAs, GAs are usually young guys. Right. There's eligibility rules on when you can do it. Like you can't go hire some 50 year old guy to be a GA anymore. Like you used to go, you could kind of work your way around it. Well now I can go bring in a veteran coach to come be an analyst for me and coach, now he can now get on the field and coach to where, you know, or here's other events is now a guy like Chris Watt, you can hold longer, hopefully, because you can now make him an analyst and still have him still be part of the coaching aspect of it where before once his GA eligibility ran out, he couldn't be on the field anymore. That I think is going to make more of a scenario where you can maybe groom some of those younger guys to take over. You got to be careful though, because you can't do that all the time, because you can't pass up on opportunities to go outside your tree and go get a Mike Mickens like Brian Kelly did in 2020, or go out and get, you know, in Al Washington, or go out and get a deal in McCullough, go out and get someone from outside who's better suited to be elite at that position, the guy you're grooming. But I do think it gives them more. There's more coaches that you can pick from now, to kind of create that sort of that coaching farm system, so to speak, in your program, absolutely. The one from Christopher Crosby, Bicell, hold, this is the most balanced the SEC has been in the last 15 years. I'm actually going to buy that because I will say this, there were years that the SEC was a little deeper. Maybe you could argue maybe than this year. That's debatable. What I think, however, is even in those years, it was usually still like Bama was king. Sure. And maybe one other team might be able to beat them, but Bama was king. Now it's like, well, Georgia's king, but the king is being threatened by Bama, Ole Miss. There's a lot more teams there. I think the coaching in the SEC, while still not as good as it needs to be, is getting better. You're adding a guy like a Mike Elko into the league. Hugh Freeze is a scummy human being who's just not someone I would never entrust my child to be led by Hugh Freeze as a human being. A guy can coach football, just why he keeps getting hired, even though he uses school credit cards to pay for strippers and stuff. He's still able to get hired quite because he wins games at the end of the day. He's winning games. He's got a couple wins over Nick Saban, right? I mean, that's just the reality of it. So if you're a parent that doesn't care about the morality or the character of the person that's going to coach your son, send him to Auburn. If you do actually somewhat care about your child being around somewhat decent human beings, send them to somewhere other than Auburn. But the point is, Vince, he's a football coach, you've got Josh Heipel, you've got Mike Elko, you just added Steve Sarkeesian to the league because of Oklahoma and Texas coming over. You've got Mark Stoops is a good football coach, Eli Drinkowitz, we'll see if you can build on what he did last year, but he did a heck of a job last year, you know. So I think the overall quality of the league is, I would say it is deeper, deeper because the bottom is coming back up where in the last couple of years, it was like some good teams at the top and then a bunch of mediocreness. You're starting to see an ascension from some of those programs. And Mike Elko, Texas A&M, in my opinion, is going to be a whole lot better than Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M. And that's going to make the SEC better and make it more balanced. And so also too is because you're going to see a little bit more of a, of a, the schedule is not going to be as so you play only the West and you play only the East as it used to be because of the new pod scheduling. So I think that's going to create some more opportunities for teams to have some wins and, and, and not type of thing. So yeah, I'll buy that, I'll buy that it's, it's, it's a, it's a, somebody in the chat said it's a soft buy, small buy, I'm going to say it's a soft buy just because I can't off top my head, recite to you all 15 years of the SEC. There may have been some years on Brian off my memory. I think this is fair. It's a fair thing to buy. And, and, and, and Florida gets really Billy Napier and hires a better coach or a village, Billy Napier figures it out. That makes it even better. Cause now you're Florida as a competent team, whereas before that, and then some of the teams that have lost legends in recent years, mainly Alabama, they replaced them with one of the best coaches in the game. So you know that they should still be good in my opinion there. So I, yeah, I think that's a fair thing to say. I'll buy that Vince. Do you offer a buyer or seller or hold on that? I did not. I was going to kind of let you take that one just because again, as you said, I can't recite the last 15 years in the SEC. I don't think it's as top heavy as it has been in recent memory. And so that is why I would buy it. Yeah. Right. Cause that's right. Right. Yeah. Exactly. So I think some of the top teams may have come back to the pack a little bit, which then, of course, creates some more balance. So yeah, I'll, I'll buy that one hesitantly without diving into it completely, right? Over the last 15 years. Next one from Christopher Crosby, I feel like would be perfect for tomorrow. But hey, here it is. There is a minimum of five teams that can win the big 12 this season. And of course the reason I said that is because we are going to preview the big 12 tomorrow during tomorrow's show. So I don't want to give away too much here as we discuss this particular question. But Christopher asked it, so of course we'll answer it. That. Okay. So let's go through it. Do you think Arizona has a chance to win the big 12? I think they have a chance. They have a chance. They have a chance. They have a count. They have a count. You know, kid, it was very good at quarterback last year, are going to be the best receiver in the league. New coach though, lost some guys at the portal, but they at least have a chance. I would argue that, that Kansas state definitely has a chance. Yes. Possibly. Favorite. Oklahoma state has a chance. Sure. Utah has a chance. So then you have to ask yourself, okay, do you believe that Colorado, Houston, Kansas, TCU or West Virginia could also win the league? And my answer would probably be yes. I could see one of those teams sneaking in. And the reason I'm going to buy it fences as we as we talk through it is because even though I really like Utah and Oklahoma state and Kansas state as my top three teams, none of them are so much better than other teams in a league. It's not a, there's not a cavern in it, right between, yeah. And there are some of those teams that don't have that, that really vaunted schedule that, you know, you could see a team that, that maybe this team isn't as good, but they play for and win the title because two of the better teams that, that would maybe otherwise on paper be ahead of them had much tougher schedules that knock them out of the title game. So I think that factors in as well for me. So I'm going to buy that. I'd say minimum five, I'm comfortable saying five. I would say have a can win it. I think in theory, yes, there are five, practically speaking, I still think there's three teams in my opinion that are kind of above everybody else. But to win the league, then she only got to sneak up to number two and then upset number one in the, in the title game. So I'll buy that. I'm not, it's not like a show, definitely. But yeah, I think so outside chance. I would say as I'm thinking through it, the big 12 is the most wide open of the five of the four power five conferences or power four conferences, right? Well, let me explain what you mean, meaning that I think the most teams have the opportunity to win it. Yes. That's what I mean by that. Okay. Because like, I think all the leagues are open for the champ, right? Like there's no team, in my opinion, just like that's what they're going to win. ACC Big 10, I mean, a big 10 SEC. Yeah, Georgia is the preseason favorite. Their schedule is brutal and Texas is really good and Bama's really good and Ole Miss is really good. And you know, maybe Missouri can, like Tennessee's going to be better. Like they could get knocked off even though they're the favorite Ohio state's the favorite and the big 10. They got to go play out in Eugene Oregon's not going to be an easy team to beat for the big 10 title game. Sure. Penn State, I think is going to be a better team this year than they were last year. Maybe another team sneaks up, maybe Michigan, who's the defending national champs, doesn't take the drop off that you and I think that we're going to take. I think the big 10 is probably the narrowest field. Did you agree with that? There's two teams that to me are just definitely better than everybody else. Every other league has at least three. You could argue that ACC is also in that conversation. That's what I was in. I was going to push back with ACC with Florida State and Clemson. Any reason I would say no is because I think the difference here is Oregon and Ohio State have the significantly two best rosters in the big 10 and then there's a drop off. I don't think Miami is going to win the ACC because I don't trust their coaching staff, but their roster is outstanding because of how they've done in high school recruiting and in the portal. That's why I think you at least say there's at least three in the ACC plus Louisville had a very good off season. I think they're not to be discounted as a I mean, they played in the ACC title game last year. They have a lot of kids coming back, but to your point, there are two teams that are proven to be better and a third team that has the talent to win the league where Miami figures it out coaching wise. I don't think anyone to be surprised if Miami wins it this year based on their talent. Now I don't know how their culture is going to be right. I don't know how the coaching is going to be whereas in the big 10 you have to outcoach Ohio State and Oregon because nobody else has their roster nobody. That's the difference to me and the SEC definitely has more than two, but to your point Vince about the big 12. I spot on agree with that. There's more teams that have a legitimate chance to win that league than any other in my opinion. Yes. SEC is probably the next closest. Yes. Agree with that too. Yep. Good one. I like that one. Good start, Chris. Yeah. So stay tuned for our big 12 preview tomorrow, by the way. So you know, we got more to talk about with the big 12. All right. Mr. Mio Wagner. I still love that name. Bicell hold. Tash Baker will start the opener at left tackle and Wagner at right tackle, but Gerbie will eventually replace Baker before the end of the year. Can I start this one? Of course. Can just do it. Okay. Kind of been seeing this. You can just do it. And I'll follow your lead. Okay. Fair enough permission. Excuse me, sir. Can I start, please? In the back. Hello. No, I based on based on the interview with Joe Rudolph yesterday. I do not think that Tash is going to be replaced outside of an injury. I think he has been inserted at left tackle, and there's not even a competition for it. And he has yet to show me that he is willing to change the starting lineup based on what has been going on at practice unless there's an injury. Now, I mean, right, he kind of did that a right tackle though, right? I mean, putting a meal ahead of Tash initially. Okay. Fair enough. I guess I'm referring to last year when I believe Billy's trial. Yeah, because the only reason Billy started and asked him started late in the years because of injury. Because of injury. Yeah. So correct. I think he was probably the best guard on the roster by maybe midway through the season. And there was no chance that he was going to be starting unless there was an injury. So hey, look, you've got a new offensive coordinator who may be able to insert his sway. If something is clearly obvious in practice, of course, we don't get to see practice during the season. You know, maybe that happens. But as of right now, Gurbi Lambert's with the 13th. And I don't know that I see that changing anytime soon. So and the way he also, the other thing that gives me pause is the way that he was talking about Anthony Knapp in such glowing fashion. Yeah. And being, you know, a key backup and all of this. It just reeked of go with what, you know, yeah. And my guy. Yeah. My recruit. So the intel that I got from people that I know was encouraging, they're going to try different guys out. Okay. But when you read, when you listen to Joe Rudolph, it's like, Oh my gosh, he has already made decisions on what he's doing. So obvious. Like, now that could just be coach speak. That could just be him saying things to, to give Tasha a vote of confidence and see how he does. Sure. Could be that. So I don't want to like jump off a cliff too much. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Very discouraging. And again, I don't even mean discouraging, like he's going to play Tasha. Like if Tasha wins the job, great. Yes. It's more of like, bro, you're just going to leave Sullivan after left guard and just leave, you know, Gerby on the third team and just not even do the whole coaching thing where you try to get your really time for guys ready to go. Like you're just not even going to try that. You're just going to roll with the vets. Okay. That's a, that's one way to take it. You know, but like, you know, just like there's a lot of really concerning things, you know, you put Tai Chan, like Tai Chan may be a great kid. He just to me has never shown me that he's a very good starting caliber football player Notre Dame. I'll say it that way. Cause they're very good. You're not on scholarship and Notre Dame. You're not a good football player, but like a starting caliber football player at Notre Dame. And then you're taking, you're giving him reps at left. I would literally rather you just let Anthony nap take those reps and see if Anthony can be ready to go. Cause at least Anthony has some athletic ability and some length and some things like that. Like that was, that was a very discouraging cause he, I mean, the way he said it, Vince, and I had to go back and read it again and, and I'm, I was actually going to see if, if Sean could send me the audio, cause I wanted to hear his, you know, yeah, I heard it last night, but it's just like that just sounded very matter of fact, it's done. Yes. That's exactly how it sounded to me. Like you're not even trying to meal over there. I mean, it's like, Oh, okay. I, I guess this is where we're going to go. Now again, coaches say a lot of things. Yes, they do. That aren't necessarily true and he's been around for a long time. So it aren't the same way and, you know, two weeks from now or a week from now is not necessarily the same thing. Right. So I don't want to get too worked up about it, but man, based on, to your point, Vince, I agree with your, your cell based on what Joe Rudolph had to say yesterday at the press conference, I'm going to sell that. It just like, okay, in any way says, Kirby's a ways away, but it's like, when I'm watching practice, I didn't see him taking any special attention to, to go work with Garrett. When Kirby took a rep, he wasn't even looking at him. He was looking at somebody else. That's, that's a problem. He was treating him like a third-teamer. You know what I mean? Like, you know how coaches are. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I mean, they don't pay any attention to the third-teamer. He's saying it wasn't that way. But no. And again, it's just a couple of practices, but exactly. It's noticeable. It's noticeable. Yeah. It's concerning. Yep. For sure. It's very concerning. Next one from misdemeanor Wagner by sellhold in an effort to boost Viper production, KVA will share time there much like Osbury is at nickel. This gets the best players on the field all at one time. So if you're talking about Viper sell now, if you're talking about some situations where KVA Kingston, Billy, I'm a hossa, lines up off the edge and nickel packages as a pass rusher like Jaylen Snead did, I'll buy that. But that's not Viper. That's not playing Viper. So in regard to Viper production, I'm selling that. Yeah. Is he used as an edge rusher early on? Yes. But it's just like Jaylen Snead was. Right. James, he's not playing Viper. He's 220 pounds. He's not playing Viper. Kingston's not playing Viper. Could Kingston rush the quarterback in an attempt to find a role for him? Yes, he can. Yes. So I kind of, I buy the spirit of what he's asking, right? But I sell the specific of in an effort to boost Viper production. I don't think I hit anything to do with Viper production. I think, you know, and then the whole sharing time there, like Osborne, nickel, no, I don't, I don't. Yeah. He will not be a face-down Viper. He will be a pass rushing, he could be a pass rushing edge player. That's the difference. Right. It's like, you could say, hey, look, there's certain looks where you might put, you know, I'm trying to think of a guy, you might take in a pass rushing situation, a Bryce Young and put him over the three technique on third and 10 and he's going to rush the quarterback. That's different than saying Bryce Young's playing defensive tackle. You know what I mean? Like, no, it's third and 10. They're throwing the ball. You put him at three technique and let him beat the guard, right? I mean, that that's, that's kind of what you do sometimes doesn't make him a detackle. And I would say it's more like that. But the spirit of what he's asking about, I can get on board with, but the very specific of the Viper in splitting time that I'm going to sell that I'm definitely going to sell. All right. This episode is brought to you by our good friends at NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. I'm sure by now you've all got back into your Sunday routines, but they could be even better. With NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV, you get the most live NFL games all in one place every game, every Sunday, and you can even watch up to four different games at once with multi-view, one of my favorite inventions of this decade. It's exactly what you need to catch all the action. Make your Sundays more magical and also YouTube TV is great. I got it this year. It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com/BS device and content restrictions apply local and national games on YouTube TV and a false Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games, Jay Lin G by cell hold given Notre Dame's schedule and its desire to keep Leonard healthy by cell hold. There will be at least four regular season games where Leonard does not take a second half snap second half. That's that's a lot. Second half. I'm definitely selling that cell. Yeah. May if you wanted to maybe alter this to fourth quarter, I'd buy that. Then I might buy that. I'd definitely would buy that second half. That's too much for me. There was a very, very successful football team. Of course, I was not on, but I had friends who were on it and they would I mean they would just demolish their competition on a regular basis, right? The way that they always operated was the starters got the first series in the second half, no matter what the score was, they got the first series in the second half and then they were done for the rest of the way, you know what I mean? At the very least, I could see that potentially happening, but taking them out at half time. I mean, you'd have to be up 40 something like that and I just don't see that happening four times. And the other thing too is to her to her question. Two of the games where maybe that happens were very early. Northern Illinois in game two, Miami, Ohio in game four, where you're still trying to work things out. Yes. You want Riley to get some more of those now you're telling him do not run. We're not calling any run place. If you run slide, exactly, or step out of bounds, like you're not taking it. You're not running anyone over in the third quarter. We're going to get a couple series because you need to work that kind of I mean, maybe I could I could see that, but yeah, it would it would be tough for me to go there. Yeah. I mean, those are like four I mean, in high school, I would do that like I'm I'm not a believer in the high school level or even the division three level, you know, like when you look at some of the stuff, mount what you just do. I'm okay, benching guys at halftime, not benching guys, punk guys at halftime. Yeah. Because that's a different animal, you know, and you've got so many kids on the team and sure. Yeah. Right. And you're losing a guy at the high school level when you're up 40 to nothing could be way more damaging than having it happen at a place like Notre Dame. Sure. Sure. So I'm not one of those you have to play the third, but the timing of the season would fit factor that the experience of the players that we're talking about. But I would say probably I would, I would probably send some of my starters out there for the third quarter, not all of them. And if Riley Leonard was Notre Dame's quarterback last year, got hurt and was their quarterback again this year, I'd say maybe, maybe pull him in halftime because you know, he, you know what he can do. But the fact that he's new here, he's still learning and he's got a lot of new pieces as well. You know what I mean? And you've got new guys to the offense. Right. You got a new coordinator and you got new this, you got new that and there's a lot of new that they're going to have to work out. And you're right. The games where they have a chance to do this are all on the first half of the season, frankly. So I could still see maybe one or two of those games. Well, I actually think army is going to be tougher to blow like that just because I think they're going to go back to running the triple and just trying all that. Yeah. Got you. But where, you know, you dominate them, but it's like 30 to nothing, right, because you only ran 42 plays, you know, to me only possess the ball five times, but you scored every time. Right. Exactly. You know, you only scored 35 points. He's army. We literally scored every time we have the ball. Like what do you want us to do? Well, let's go to touch on every time. But I can see that happening once or two. I mean, honestly, with Riley's injury, I could see that happen a couple of time, but I would say maybe once not, not, not, yeah, not that many times. But yeah, I saw that one BK's last brain cell by cell hold Notre Dame starting offensive line will hold Texas A&M defense and check and give up less than five pressures the entire game running back combination will go for a minimum of 106, excuse me, 165 yards. Well, if I got to take this all as one whole thing, I'm selling. I'm definitely selling that because like five holding a team to five pressures is an outstanding game. Like that, you're going to the course of a 13 game season is 65 pressures allowed. Notre Dame's defense last year had like what 230 some total pressures last season. What was their defense last year? They were at total. They were 200. No, that's 22 last year on defense. They were at 267 total pressures. That's 200 more than what you would give up, you know, on an average of five a game. Like if they held them to 10 pressures in that game, that's a very good performance because we're talking about pressures. That's hurries, sacks, and hits in the quarterback. If you hold A&M to less than 10 pressures, that's a very good performance. I was just going to say, can we reset this at 10? I was just going to say that out of my mouth. Yeah. Now, you just want to make sure there's not as many hits on the quarterback. Now, if you were to say, give up less than five hits on the quarterback, that would be a successful game. I do buy the last part though. I do think Notre Dame's going to run the ball. Well, now will the running back combination run for over 165? Maybe the team will, but that includes Riley Leonard, but I could get on board with that. I think they'll at least have 165 yards of offense. But as a whole, I'm selling that. That's a really good group of defensive linemen, and you're not going to have your starting left tackle in that game. I mean, if Tosh Baker holds them to three pressures by himself, that's a heck of a win for him. We'll be crazy. Yeah. If you're two tackles alone hold A&M to under five, that would be a surprising win. And that's not even saying because they're bad. That's just like, you usually get 15 to 20 pressures a game, and you're going to hold them to less than five. That's a lot. Yeah. I hope they just hold them to less than five sacks. That's kind of where my paranoia is right now with this whole thing. You've got reason. All right. Irish Cowboy 25 buy sell hold. I'm not as freaked out about the recruiting misses as I used to be because this stuff is showing to be very good at the staff, excuse me, has shown itself to be very good at identifying and signing good transfers to fill the needs. Well, I mean, you should never be freaked out by something that happens in recruiting. Exactly. So you're spot on on that one. But as far as having concern from an analysis standpoint, look, I get where you're coming from and the portal takes away some of the angst about it, but you still need to be winning in those high school recruiting battles for two reasons. Number one is the more guys are in your system, the more they're pulled into your culture. Number one, the more they know your system. And then number two, you can't guarantee that there's going to be a Chris Mitchell and a bow Collins in the portal next year, you know, because the year before you didn't get those kind of guys, they tried. They couldn't get them. They got Caleb Smith who quit the team in the spring, like that's the best they could do in the portal. We're seeing that. Trust me, they tried to get more than Caleb Smith, the year before in the portal receiver didn't work. This year, you got lucky. You got three guys, Jay and me as well. And they're all really good football players. They're good athletes. That's not going to be what you do every year. You may go get one, but you got to start winning some of those battles. You can't assume that you're going to be able to restock in the portal every offseason. That's just not a good way to build your roster. You can't count on that. Now, can you fill some holes now and then? Sure. I get that and Notre Dame has done a pretty good job of that overall. Right. They have. They keep going to the well, like, okay, back-to-back years, they went out and got a pretty good defensive end. Javante last year, that worked out a lot better than people thought it did. Better than I thought it was. You went out and got RG open this year, but do you really want to keep going back to that well? Do you really want to keep going back to the nickel well, right? That's the whole thing is do you really want to keep going back to the quarterback well? I don't. Marcus Freeman doesn't. Now, again, yes, you don't need to panic if you lose a guy and go recruit some kid that you don't think can play for you. It was like, and this saw like a receiver, for example, well, what about this kid that well, they didn't think those kids could play at Notre Dame. They passed on them. So do you now go back on those kids that you don't think can play for you or do you say, okay, well, we'll only take one kid out of, you know, in high school that we really liked. We thinks that KK Smith Logan's all got the type of sleeper and then we'll go get another kid or two out of the portal to get by this year, but we've got to make up for next year. Yes, you can do that. And that's a better strategy than taking a kid that you know, you don't think can play for you. Now, look, you always recruit kids that end up being better than people thought, but there was always some level, at least into this staff, there's always some level of, I think that kid can be good. He just needs a lot of work like the staff didn't go get KK Smith just to fill a roster spot. They already had four receivers in the class. Right. Well, yeah, Rico, Braylon, yeah, three in the class, they they wanted a fourth receiver, but they didn't need one. No, no matter what, they didn't take KK because just well, and we need a fourth guy. It took KK because they're like, dude, we went out looking for another receiver and this kid was good. And that's why we targeted him over some other guys and with Logan Saldate last year. As soon as Isaiah Canyon de-committed, like within a week they had, they had Logan Saldate as the guy they wanted because they identified him like, man, if we had another spot, we really like that kid. And boom. And you made it happen. That's different than, well, we got to get somebody. Well, let's try that kid, not don't love his film, but hey, we need somebody. No, go to the portal for that. If you're going to go to the portal, you better, it puts way more pressure on you to go step it up and recruiting in the high school level of next year. You just don't want to keep going to that well. Right. You really don't. And it's going to get more and more expensive to get portal guys the deeper we get into this thing. That's a good point. And you just don't want to go there. That's just not a good allocation of resources, in my opinion, but, you know, I guess we'll see what happens. It's like this, man. I'd rather give a signing bonus to one kid for four years than give four kids a signing bonus every other year. Yeah. Totally. And this whole 105 roster spot thing is going to, it's going to be a difference to a difference maker. So we're going to see how that all, you know, works out ball peens, Shalele, which I found out today is a child by reading the chat. We first started. He said he was five years old when I got married when we were talking about 20th anniversary. I'm like, Oh my God, he's like, what? He's such a baby. No, but no, I'm just messing with you, man, enjoy your year. Enjoy your twenties, man. Oh, this old man. Yeah, I know. Right. But here's this question. It looks like Pitbull just bought the naming rights to FIU stadium will be naming it Pitbull Stadium by sellhold if revenue sharing actually comes to pass in college football where we see a lot more sponsor agreements like this from less financially endowed teams. 100% huge by well, this, I believe, also is only for three years. Yes, it is. He's paying them like what one point to me in four, three years and after that, they're going to sell it again, exactly else. And I have no problem with it to be well, I have a problem with it, but it's a necessary evil. Well, cause they exactly because I'm not going to be in this situation, but that's where we are. Right. I mean, that's, that's, I should, I should, I should rephrase my comment because I agree with you. I hate that. I hate it, but I also understand where things are at. So I have no problem with it. Like, look, this isn't a, I mean, NFL teams do this all the time. Sure. Like I remember when the Reds created their new stadium and by the way, I don't really follow baseball anymore, but I'll tell you what my dad and I were talking about this the other day. I loved going like I grew up there. I went to Reds games my whole life. We went because we love the Reds. We didn't go because we loved Riverfront Stadium. Sure. It was that cookie cutter, you know, multi-purpose stadium that you had football, baseball, and, you know, event rock, you know, it's what those things were like the vet and, you know, in Pittsburgh and the vet and Philly and then you had three rivers in Pittsburgh. They were all dumpy stadiums, but whatever when Great American is a great ballpark to watch a game. And I remember when they named it, I'm like, that's awesome. And they gave like a cool name, Great American ballpark. I love that. That's awesome. Like they didn't do the corporate sellout thing. And then I was like, Oh, it's great American insurance. Okay. There you go. You know, but at least they picked a cool name, not, you know, like, you know, Invesco field at mile high and all that other stuff. How many times have they changed the name of their stinking stadium? The Broncos. Yeah. It feels like it happens all the time. That's ridiculous. But I mean, that's that. I mean, so this isn't new. Yeah. This isn't new. And, and you're going to see, look, these schools are going to start pimping things out as I mean, they're going to sell like you, this is just the beginning. They're going to be selling out the name of the gym, you know, the, I mean, look, guys, Notre Dame does this. Sure. Notre Dame. And every time Marcus Freeman's name is written in a release from Notre Dame, it's not head coach Marcus Freeman. It's here. I'm going to, I'm going to pull it up. Right. What, what is the actual name? These six or seven of their coaches are in town. It's the, he is the Dick Corbett head football coach. Right. Right. So I mean, this isn't, this isn't new dude, these people are going to be, it's the, it's the Dick Corbett head football coach, the Bob Hinton defensive coordinator, the John and Bobby Arlotta family offensive coordinator. It's the Bob and Leslie Moore family quarterbacks coach, the Pat and Jana Eiler's defensive backs coach, the Joe Moore offensive line coach, which is actually kind of cool. Cause I don't think that's actually an endowment, but just more of a shout out the Peter Shiva rally defensive line coach, uh, and then the Trimeterra, uh, uh, a family director of football performance. And that's the strength coach. The coach is not named. It's a shorter list. The stevers, line backers and special teams. Okay. Of course. Special teams. I love them. I need to get Reggie Ho on the phone and be like, Hey man, how much money have you made? Seriously. You need to have, we need to have Reggie as the Reggie host. Reggie. I'm on board. Yeah. But like, I mean that, that this, like schools are going to look for ways to supplement. Sure. Honestly, I don't have a, a lot of it don't have a problem with. I, I don't like the fact that there's this giant gap and some of these teams are just desperate for money. And it's going to get worse when we get to the rough share, but, but here's the problem. The issue isn't revenue. The issue is spending. You need like the reason Florida state can't survive on $40 million a year is not because it's just not enough to run a good program. It's cause you spend too much money. You don't spend wisely. Right. And, and so it's like, that's why so many people had issues during the COVID when they weren't making money off ticket sales and things like that, because you were spending, you were living basically paycheck to paycheck. Right. Essentially. Not everyone, but a lot of programs. No, but yeah. That's where this is coming from. And selling the rights to stadiums and fields, that's not a, that's not a new thing. It's not new at all. I just, I like it with it was just more meaningful, you know, like it's the. Sure. You know, the, the next, Bama's renaming the field, you know, after Nick Saban. Right. And yeah, right. You know, Florida state is dope Campbell. I, I just, I like that. It's, you know, and you want to say it like it's the, it's the, cause this, and this one just means it's the pit bull stadium, you know, they're calling it. Yep. It's not the pit bull, such and such memorial, you know what I mean? Like it's not like, you know, like, I hope Notre Dame never does that. Like the. No. I can't imagine, they would get so much pushback if they did that depends on who, who was buying, who was giving the money. Well, that's true. Like if it's some huge donor, then, you know, okay, I get it, you know, I mean, Doza in Notre Dame stadium or something, you know, I just, I won't ever call it that. No. But, you know, could you sell the naming like what I would hope is that if some donor wanted to give big money to, to rename the field. So let's say we're going to have such and such field at Notre Dame stadium. Give the money and then demand that they put something on it. The new rock knee, new rock knee field. Oh, I see. Which land Notre Dame stadium. Right. Right, right. So Brian Driscoll had millions of dollars and he wanted to donate it to Notre Dame. You would say, I want it named the rock knee field, not the whole, well, if it was me, I wouldn't say lu hole, lu hole tree, older, sure, or the rocket field, but it would be something like, but it would give me a family field at Notre Dame stadium or something like that. The problem with that, like for the, for the, for the, for the coaching assistants, like I'm cool. I think that's cool. Yeah. That's awesome. Actually, I think it's a pretty creative way to actually earn some money and to show your respect for the program. Yeah. Also, hey, I'm getting my name on this and I'm supporting a program. I'm more referring to the actual building, right, the stadium. That's what I'm. That's what I'm. That's more of my, my issue. I totally get that. Honestly, every archer said that Ohio State, it's, it's safe light field at Ohio stadium. Is it really? I hate that. Like it's just my kids high school, every field is sponsored by a business, right? Yeah. Yeah. But like the baseball coach, for example, has six state titles. And so it's going to be the coach field at TCU, you know, stadium or whatever. I can't remember exactly what it is. But like it has a corporate name, but the field is named after a coach, which makes sense because he built a program and he's been the coaches, as long as I've been alive. You know what I mean? So like that's the kind of stuff that I agree with you. I get that they have to do it, but I wish guys, I'm just prepare yourselves. They're going to have, they're going to have advertisements on jerseys, like, like the NBA does, like the WNBA does, just put a Motorola symbol on their sleeve. That's coming. People to cause football. They pass the rule. That's allowed now. You're going to have people selling their helmets. And I mean, I get it for the, you know, like, like, if you're going to, I'm going to give me millions of dollars. I want my logo somewhere in the stadium, but I'm just like, don't put it on the field. I just don't think things like that. You're on the field. I don't. But yeah, it sucks. You're going to see some schools completely sell out and there's going to be advertisements everywhere. And here, here, here, you know, here, here, helmet. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's going to be everywhere, Brian. It's going to be the day that that happens. Yep. It is. I mean, they didn't ask my opinion. So no, nor do they care about any of our opinion. Nope. They sure don't. So they sure don't. Cause I'm not sending checks. So they definitely don't care about my opinion. Shields. I'm not many checks either. Yeah. Exactly. It was if I had that much money in my current profession, I would not donate the money for that. But well, it would be a bit of a conflict of interest in your current profession. But if I had that much money, I'd probably retire. Well, there's that too. Yeah. Let you guys run it and I'd take more of a different role, just to show. Fields of gold by sell hold. It would be worth trading for a system that produced much greater talent parity across the top 30 to 40 programs in college football, all of the NFL or maybe college basketball. Even if that meant Notre Dame's roster would, on average, mathematically over multiple years, not be at the top 10 talent level. It has been for most of the past 10 years. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of forced parity. Okay. Like, like I'm, I'm just not, I'm not a fan of that. Like here's my thoughts, Vince. I was having this conversation with somebody I liked the other day and he was talking about, you know, Notre Dame needs to join a conference and talking about creating equitable schedules. It wasn't about Notre Dame. It was about the desire to create more equitable schedules like the NFL. It was like, it's impossible when you have 70 teams and it's impossible in this open portal area because teams are going to have such one year, they're great. The next year, they're, they saw, and, and so much more than the NFL. I'm, I'm about creating financial equity at the top when it comes to TV revenue. Outside of that, I'm not doing things like professional sports teams do. I'm not creating a draft where the worst team in power five gets to pick the best player and call it high school football. Like that's the type of things that you would need. That's the kind of system that you would need. I don't want to create a system where it says, hey, you know, you can't do this or you can't do that because it's unfair because other people aren't as good at that as you like. Like, look, create a set of rules that everybody can live by and some teams are going to be good at it and some teams are not. You cannot have equity. You're not going to have 50 head coaches that all are the same exactly good at something. You're always going to have people that rise at the top and people that don't. And as long as you're creating a system in which there is some level of financial equity, that's the extent here. All I care about is that the eventual leadership of the college football world does two things. Create a system of rules that everyone lives up to. And if you don't want to be part of it, that's fine. You don't have to be a part of our college football league, right? If you want to do this, this, this, and this fine, University of Tennessee doesn't want to obey this, this, this, and this, that's fine. You don't have to be part of what we are doing. And then everyone else is going to go over here and you five schools that want to just be complete scumbags, you can all go play with each other over in the corner. You know what I mean? And do what you want to do. But we're going to move on like grownups and not be cut total scumbags, okay, and how we handle business. So in what I mean by that is there, everybody has to sign on, there's enforcement. This is the rules we're all signing on. This is how it is. And then creating financial equity from simply from the TV contracts. That's it. If Georgia makes $20 million more a year on Jersey sales than Vanderbilt, so be it. Get better fans. Just, you know what I mean, like have a better product that excites your fans. I guess it's probably a better way of saying it. I don't if note, if Notre Dame wants to spend 10 million more on their coaching staff compared to Purdue, so be it that, you know, everyone's making the same amount of TV money. Some people are going to rise at the top. I am not a big fan of, I've said this before, Vince, equity, big fan of equality, not a big fan of equity. I think there should be opportunities that if you want to be good at this, here's the resources and play. Vanderbilt's not going to have $30 million more a year than Indiana, right? It's going to save them out of TV revenue. Now what you do with that's up to you, because just like the NBA, and I mean, just like Major Baseball in the other sports, there's revenue sharing, some teams, Vince in the NFL, everybody's got same salary cap. Everybody has the same amount of money from the league, same TV money on it. Some teams are always picking in the top 10 fire coaches every other year, always picking in the top 10, because some people just aren't good at this thing. Some people are great at it. And that's fine with me. I don't want a bunch of nine and seven teams in the NFL. I want, I like excellence. And part of the reason I stopped watching the NFL is because there'd be like two or three really good teams and then a bunch of, because of the way that the NFL does its rules and things like that. It's just it. I don't want to see a nine and 17 go play for the Super Bowl. I don't, I want to see two great teams play for the Super Bowl and in college football, I don't want to see Alabama get brought down or Georgia Notre Dame or house they get brought down. Two things that help lift Vanderbilt up to help lift Indiana up to help lift Wake Forest up if they, if they want to take advantage of it. That's what I would rather see. And the reality is this not everybody's built the same. Some teams just don't have the fan base that other teams do. They don't have the donor class that other teams do and that's life. That's reality. That's life. Yeah. That's reality, man. So, you know, you know, it's just the way it is, yeah, not to win a championship. Yeah, exactly. And you could go from in one conference, you could go to every conference school and you will see a major disparity from one school to the next. That's just reality. That's just life, you know, you know, is what it is. Fields of gold. Hold on a second. Oh, lies crazy there. Here we go. Fields of gold, our view on our tap happy, one of the tap happy. All right. Fields of gold by sell hold, our view on receiver recruiting will shift 180 degrees by year from now after Mike Dembrock and Mike Brown's first year and with an NIL approach that it sounds like was taken with Meadows. Buy. That's a huge buy. The last part, I'm whatever. The first part is what he's saying is like, look, Vince, the reality is to get big time receivers. You've got to be willing to spend NIL money. Just reality. Sure. And they show with Eric Meadows. Eric Meadows because of correct enough NIL deal. That's correct. Right. Like, we're not going to do that whole thing is no name fans. Like if do's night goes somewhere else, it won't be because Notre Dame wasn't competitive NIL. It's because there's other things that are being done that their names like we can't do that. That's not legal. We're just not going to go down that road. And if you lose the kid because of that, you lose the kid because of that. It is what it is. Yeah. But, you know, look, if NIL is the rules, these are the rules, you can either choose not to participate in it or you can then participate in it. When you have the support that Notre Dame has of fans and donors and alums and boosters and all that other kind of stuff, if they're willing to raise the money to go out and get a top 10 wide receiver, then go frickin get a top 10 wide receiver. You know, I don't love it. But that's the rules. It's not illegal. It's that's the rules. Right. And so Notre Dame isn't going to lose a kid because of that. They're going to lose kids because they don't put kids in the NFL and because they don't vote a ball, that's why they lost Eric Meadows, not because of, you know, they weren't willing to match the financial offer. It's one school produces a bunch of NFL receivers and the other one doesn't produce hard money. Right. One team throws a ball for a ton of yards. The other team hasn't and yes. So in that regard, the first part is important, but the second one is two events when you're talking about top receivers. It just is. That's just the reality. You can get that. We don't have to like it. Because my point is, if the, if the first part gets better, you're still going to have a smaller pool of players if you're not willing to do number two as well. I think my, my point was that I've never necessarily worried about Notre Dame and NIL. I always, I've always just, and I don't know any details. I'm like, those are the kind of things I don't know about. But in my opinion, I feel like Notre Dame does what they do in NIL and I'm fine with it. But the first part is super important to me. Like I feel like that part is going to happen and that part is going to be a much easier sell from a recruiting standpoint because that's why they lost meadows. Like that first part is why they lost meadows, not the second part. So that's why I didn't mean to like dismiss it. I've just always just kind of assumed that Notre Dame is doing what they do in NIL and they're competitive in NIL. I've always been told that they're competitive and they're doing it the right way, which is why I enjoy being an Notre Dame fan, right? As far as, you know, as well as being an analyst and following the team like that. And so the first part's way more important to me because I think Notre Dame is doing their due diligence in the NIL department. So that's what I meant by. For kids, they think you're worth it. Exactly. And that's fine. I'm cool with that. You know, there's some teams that are just giving money just to get a kid that they don't even think that good of a player. They missed on this guy, this guy. So let's throw that same money at this other kid. That's not smart business. And those schools have lost my phone number and I don't understand why that is. Fields of gold with another one by cell hole with only 12 teams, Notre Dame should schedule at most three non-power four teams, Navy plus two more, similar to most SEC teams, but fewer than the two non-power four opponents we see from big 10 programs. All right, so they should, they should at the most, they said nine power four teams on their schedule. But fewer than the non-power four opponents we see from the big 10. I mean, look, I think Notre Dame should schedule however the heck they want to schedule that helps them to be developed as a team. And what I mean by that is you've got to push yourself and challenge yourself. I'm fine if Notre Dame wants to have four non-power four teams in their schedule. My issue is, well, who are those power four teams? I don't want any of them to be an FCS team. I did not like that. I did not either. My point is this, you have Navy owner schedule, right? And you have, let's say, let's say you go back to playing Army and Navy every year, just for the sake of argument. And then you have a Mac team on your schedule. And then you go out and play Memphis. Well, look, Memphis is going to, as the fourth non-power four is going to be a lot tougher test than half the big 10, half the ACC, half the SEC, half the big 12, right? So it's more about the quality of the opponent, not who's power four or not. Because Notre Dame could schedule 12 power four teams in, or 11 and Navy and it's a crap schedule. Oh, 100% because you're just the bottom of the barrel of all the power four. It's like, like Notre Dame fans just, they'll say this. Oh, it's a Mac team. Yeah, but it's a really good Mac team. That's, that's like that could, that's beaten power five teams in recent season. So like is, is, so let's say Notre Dame said, ah, we're not going to play Miami, Ohio this year. We're going to pass on them. We're going to instead schedule Vanderbilt. Did that actually raise their schedule? No, it weakened their schedule. It didn't help their schedule. It made it worse. And so to me, it's like you have to look at the quality of the opponent and, in my opinion, too much of this discussion, it revolves around this notion of, well, they're this conference, which equals this. Well, that's not necessarily true. There are teams from those conferences that are actually good football teams. I mean, okay, if note, last year, if Notre Dame would have had Miami, Ohio in their schedule and, or who do you want to have Miami, Ohio or Cincinnati, a lot of Notre Dame fans would have said Cincinnati. Why? Well, yeah, but they went three and nine and lost at home to Miami, Ohio. Well Miami's a better team. Yeah, but it's their, but they're a Mac team. So like you get what I'm saying, like they would actually rather schedule a crap power five team than a really good group of five team based on the past. And you have to have a good balance and you could play a, like so, so Florida, Alabama, let's say they only play what big 10 only plays what three non conference games, right? Because they play my games. Okay. Well, some, what do you do with that three? If you're playing in FCS school and then a Mac school and then, you know, you're, you're playing some team from the, you know, the south that also stinks. Okay. You didn't challenge yourself. I don't, I don't like that. So, so Notre Dame's going to go play navy who's been a bold team a lot of times in the last 10 years. Like that's the thing. It's like, it doesn't matter how good note Navy is. Notre Dame fans don't respect playing Navy, but yeah, they won 11 games this year. You know, yeah, but it was, it was in the AAC. Right. They never will. They're going to be a lot. You know, so that's the thing is just challenge yourself. That's what I care about. Challenge yourself. The, the tougher you have it at the top, then the more I'm willing to accept with you at the bottom, the softer you are at the top, the deeper your schedule better be. That's basically how I look at it. So a general, I'm selling this as a general rule because I just need to know who the teams are. I need to know the quality of teams at the top before I'm willing to sell you that they should not schedule more than three non-power four teams because again, you could schedule a couple non-power fours. They're going to challenge you a lot more than half the teams in the, in the power four. Sure. So we're going to cancel that game against Boise State and go, you know, go play Vanderbilt. Well, did you really get, did you really make your schedule better? It made you feel better about it. Right. You know, and, and so I just, well, look at it's, is that way, man, there, there, there's some good football teams out there. Challenge yourself with some of those teams. Right. You know, where it's, yeah, it's a, it's a warm up game. You should never lose, but that's, you and I had this conversation two years ago. You made assumptions about, let's be honest, you made assumptions about Marshall. 100%. Well, the league they were from and I kept telling you what, dude, this is now, am I excusing the loss to Marshall? No, not a chance inexcusable, but I kept telling you, dude, that's a good football team. They got you, you, after that, you'd have rather played half the teams in the big 10 after you watched Marshall, then you would have rather played Marshall or, or Vanderbilt or, you know, teams like that. Right. Sure. There's good play those teams. Don't play like, don't play Kent State that I don't, don't play Akron. I don't see nobody play Akron. They suck. Right. They're a horrible Mac team. I have no problem playing Miami, Ohio. Right. No problem playing Northern Illinois. They're both. They're both at the top. They're quality teams, bowling green, sort of a regional team to you and they've had some good teams. No problem with that. Ball states and in-state school. They're not very good, but it's an in-state school. I don't want to see you. What do you get out of playing Akron? Nothing. I don't mind them playing Eastern in a non-comp. That's a quality group of five Mac team. They should never challenge Notre Dame, but not every game is meant to challenge it. It's building blocks. Right. Right. You don't duck good teams, but you also don't overload yourself unnecessarily with good teams. And that's the balancing act that Notre Dame has to play. And this obsession with Power 4 versus non-Power 4, I just, I can't go, Andrew Gilmore, a great point. Toledo almost had Notre Dame beat. That's a really good Mac team. Toledo would have given Notre, gave Notre Dame a much better game than half the teams in the Big Ten that year and several teams in the SEC and ACC in Big 12 and Pac-12. That's just a fact. So play that team. Don't play Akron. That's where I'm coming from. You know what I mean? Don't play Kent State. Don't go play some team. Don't play UMass. Don't play Yukon when they're really bad. Now, if Jim Moore, Jr., actually, it's not Jim Moore, Jim Moore, they have a different middle name. But if Jim Moore gets Yukon rolling again and they're a ball team, play him. But UMass is a joke of a program right now. You get nothing out of that. You get nothing out of playing Kent State. There's understandable reasons to play Ball State in Central Michigan because they're not very good teams, but they're at least good enough to where it's not like playing Tennessee State. Like, watching Central Michigan compared to Tennessee State was like, man, that's just not even, it's not even the same level of football. And Central Michigan wasn't even that good, but it's still very, very different. So, but hey, but like Central Michigan last year lost to New Hampshire. New Hampshire has had a dude. I think they got drafted this year, didn't he? I think so. They got a quarterback that's now going to be starting a Minnesota this year. Like that's an FCS team that's pretty good. Some teams, I'm cool with them, scheduling those teams. No name should. Right. You know? So that's kind of where I'm at. Got you. Somebody said, I think Ohio State plays Akron most years. That's a different situation, though. That's a state school. Right. And it's a state program. And it's a school you have a relationship with. Right. And when Ohio State plays Akron, they normally have a non-conference game against a Notre Dame in Oklahoma. Right. You know, Ohio State has had some soft non-conference schedules, but by and large, they don't duck people. Right. They've played Cincinnati in past years. No, they kill Cincinnati, but when you schedule Cincinnati, you're not thinking cakewalk, just because they happen to be bad when you actually played them. It's like Notre Dame's 2021 schedule ended up being pretty soft. Did you know that when you had a road game to open the season at Florida State? When you played a neutral field game against Wisconsin, did you know they were going to be bad? Did you know USC was going to stink that year? Right. Did you know that North Carolina was going to be down that year? I mean, you never know, but there's something for the attempt. When you play Akron, when you play Tennessee State, there's no attempt at all to play a game that gives you anything other than a, like, just do, just have a scrimmage. Like, I literally know Notre Dame would have been better off playing an intersquad scrimmage on Saturday than playing Tennessee State. I mean, it was, whatever, it's cool. You got nothing out of it as a football team, in my view, nothing. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
