(upbeat music) - Right here for the culture. Love you. - I remember when you got that dog and weren't you gonna name it Jesus Christ or something? - No, we called it God at first. - God, that's right. You named the dog God. And I was like, oh, that's a great you gonna name your dog. God, that's funny. And then it switched to baby dog. - 'Cause like we have another dog and that dog is old. And so like to differentiate between the two dogs at first and baby dog was a puppy before we had totally named baby dog. We just called him baby dog 'cause it'd be like the regular dog and then the baby dog. And then it's not the only thing he'll respond to. - Okay, okay. I like God as a name for a dog. And plus it's like the name dog backwards. - Exactly, exactly. I thought that it would be hard like walking the dog. Someone's like, oh, what's your dog's name? And God, that's like not a great conversation. - So we do have some mail. - Well, you do that. I'm gonna do my inhaler. - Listen, her feedback. Mira is an asthmatic and has to take her inhaler just to get through one of these episodes, the amount of stress that this puts on her body. Oh, like sidebar, I read this like sad story this morning that David Lynch can't direct things anymore 'cause he has emphysema. - I can barely even think about it. Is COPD the same as emphysema? - Probably, yeah, it's not. - It's not COPD. - It's not good. - God, I mean, the thing about David Lynch is like, he has to live longer than I do or I will do something that ends me up in the local news. He has to live for like another 50 years. Otherwise I'm gonna do some kind of terrible cry. - You love him that much. - I really do. There's few people in the world who I love as much as I love David Lynch. And like-- - He's like universally cool. He's one of these people that like nobody ever, nobody ever says anything bad about it and everybody is really quick to say how much they love them. - I feel like there's a lot of people who like don't even necessarily like know a lot of David Lynch or love David Lynch, but they all will still say like, I get it. Like I know that he's like important to a lot of people and he's like made really interesting stuff. Like I can't watch a race or head or whatever people say, but like he's one of those people where even if you don't like him, you have to be like, I understand. - Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think for me it's just like anybody who can make like movies as weird as his movies are within the Hollywood system somehow and build like a career, like that alone makes me a fan. - There's like a movie that he had in the works that he couldn't get funded like before this. Like for like a couple years, it was like he had this movie and I think the budget was probably really big 'cause he's like, huge. Like I don't wanna make the movie unless the budget is gigantic like I'm old or whatever. And like he could not get funding from any studio. But now SEO, PD and Can't Do It, which makes me so fucking mad. - Yeah, well yeah, I mean, but honestly, like the movies that he's made, the fact that anybody funded them is a testament to his like persuasive abilities and talent. Like that's hard. - I mean, there's like crazy stories about how his movies like ever got funded. I don't like know them off the top of my head necessarily, but like Laura Dern said that when she was at, I think UCLA, I wanna say, she dropped out of school to star in Blue Velvet. And when she did it, her professor like told her, this is a terrible idea. This movie will never become popular. This script is fucking ridiculous. Like you're an idiot, basically. And now it's necessary for all first year film students to study and write about Blue Velvet. - I was gonna say, I watched that in film school when I, you know, like a long time ago. Yeah, I have a film degree. - What the fuck? - I didn't know that. I thought it was like journalism. - No, I have a bachelor's in film, but then I got my master's in creative writing. - I literally didn't even know you got a master's degree. I'm gonna be totally honest. - I'm a well-educated man, Mira. - Not me? - Yeah, right. - I dropped out. - You're street smart, you're street smart. - You're street smart. - Well, I wish David Lynch well, I hope he, you know, I hope he's in, he's gonna come from surroundings. - He's gonna take a art until the day he dies is the thing. Like we might not get movies, but we'll get paintings. We'll get weird YouTube videos. We'll like, he's gonna keep doing that fucking forever. He can't stop. - Yeah, yeah. Well, here's a letter we got from a listener. It's a guy named Joe in Detroit, Michigan. He says, "Hey, love the new show, one note. Mira, please pronounce Kamala properly. I don't think you're emphasizing the wrong syllable on purpose, but mispronouncing her name is an absolutely intentional thing from right-wing creeps. Thanks, Joe, Detroit, Michigan. - I gotta be honest, I don't, that's fair. I wanna pronounce everyone's name properly. I never wanna mispronounce anyone's name, but I have no fucking idea what the proper way to pronounce it is. How do you pronounce it? - It's Kamala. It's like comma, like the punctuation mark. - I like the thing Kamala, is that what it is? - Yeah. - Kamala. - Yeah, just remember comma. Like you make a comma when you're writing, you know, and... - See, I think the issue is I had a friend in elementary school who was the opposite, who was Kamala. And so I just immediately go to that pronunciation, but rest assured, I'm not a right-wing crazy. I don't love Kamala, Kamala, I don't love Kamala, but I'm not mispronouncing her name to be a jerk or anything like that. - I do love her, I've fallen rapidly in love with her and desperately want her to win. - You and Charlie XCX both? - Yeah, it's brat summer. - And to be clear, I do want her to win over Trump, Trump is bad. - Yeah, let's just get her into the White House and then we can figure out what's next. - Yeah. - All right, so what's happening in the world of popular culture? - Let's see. Well, we have a very important story for later in the episodes, so please stay tuned for that because it's just one of my favorites. But we're gonna start out with another one of our favorites, which is famous, crazy-ass, suicidal, Scientologist Tom Cruise. He plans to skydive onto the Hollywood sign during the Olympics clothing ceremony. Now, okay, I haven't like climbed up to the Hollywood sign since I was maybe 16 years old. And like wanted to like smoke weed with boys or whatever. And it was really hard to get up there. It was really exhausting. And I don't remember there being like a good landing spot. - Like you've been up there, right? - I'm up there all the time. I hike up there like all the time and there's not. He's already done it. - What? - Yeah, he filmed it in March, like this-- - For the closing ceremony? - For the closing ceremony. So it's not like it's gonna be live. He did it in March. - And he's gonna end up like killing himself live on air or something. - Well, I think he's gonna do something at the actual ceremony where he's gonna like repel down. But I think this thing where he skydives and somehow ends up at the Hollywood sign. I mean, I don't know where. There aren't really great places for a skydiver to land. I guess if you're really good at it and you can target land somehow, there might be a place for you to do it. - But also it's in France. Why is your land in the Hollywood sign? - Well, 'cause the LA Olympics are in 2028. So it's the handoff. So the closing ceremonies in Paris happened and then it's like now Tom Cruise. It's like, next up is LA in 2028. - So LA is gonna have the Winter Olympics? - Summer. - Summer. - Yeah, so the summer games are in Paris now and then the next summer games are in 2028, four years from now. And LA is hosting. - I'm happy with it. - I don't think LA should host. I think it's gonna ruin so much shit in Los Angeles like it did last time. So look into that. - What did it, what did it ruin? - You, it just like displaced a ton of on-house people. Displaced a ton of like poor people who, 'cause they have to build Olympic Village. So like to build Olympic Village in Los Angeles, like you would have to kick many people out of their homes. You would probably have to use some of the rail lines that are planned to be used for the LA rail going all the way across, which is what happened at the last Olympics, I believe is why it's taken so long to get rail lines in LA is because the last Olympic Village, they like fucked up the rail lines 'cause they had to build it over the rail lines. - Where are they gonna build Olympic Village in LA? I don't even know. - Good question, right? Where the fuck is their room to build Olympic Village in LA? - Yeah. - Do we really need that? That's the other thing is that like Olympic Village is temporary. It's like you have all these people there and then what the fuck do you do with it? It's gone. - They better not build it in my neighborhood. - They're gonna build it in your neighborhood. - I don't want, they're gonna take all those fancy houses around you, they're gonna fucking tear them down and say like fuck you white people, we're building Olympic Village right here. (laughs) - So Tom Cruise, you mentioned the word suicidal and it is interesting to me that he seems to like the older he gets seems to be obsessed with doing increasingly dangerous stunts. - But he can't kill himself because then he doesn't get his special planet at the end of life or whatever. Theatons like your Scientologist, you can't do suicide but you can do increasingly dangerous stunts until a production company is held liable for your death. But I mean like psychologically it is interesting to me because okay great, like you like to do stunts and like that's something like you, it's like your bread and butter as like an action hero. But like if he's, I don't know if he's suicidal but I do think there could be, there could be something 'cause he's 62 years old. - Yeah and he's, I mean like fucking stunt doubles exist. Like this stuff is easy to do and make it look extremely realistic. There's literally zero reason why Tom Cruise has to literally be doing these stunts himself besides that he likes the danger. - He does, he's like a adrenaline junkie but it's also I think like retaliation against the advancing, you know, clock and mortality. - Yeah. - And he's just like fuck it, I can't, like this can't fade. I can't age, I can't become an old man. I'm gonna just keep jumping out of airplanes and I think he's like also like a deeply unwell person and like I wouldn't be surprised if he's like okay, I'm getting old, I don't like that I'm getting old fuck this. I want out but I can't actually like just, you know, kill myself and not allowed to do that. So why don't I just do some crazy shit for the rest of my life? - Yeah, it's also strange, you know, but I get like, again, I think we've mentioned this even before talking about Tom Cruise is how, you know, people I know who have worked with him or been around him say he's like very polite and nice. Like he's not like a, he's not an asshole. - Nobody is at any complaints about him from as far as I know. - And he like, he always remembers your name and like makes like really intense eye contact and like, you know, even if you're not like somebody important, he'll be like, hey, how are you? And he does like all that. - It's so fucking crazy when celebrities do that. Like I was working like a long time ago at a post-production sound studio for like ADR, like, you know, if people need to like record dialogue after a scene has already been shot because the dialogue in the scene doesn't sound great but, you know, the scene is or whatever. It was, that was the studio. And so we get a lot of famous people coming in. We had Hugh Jackman come in one time. And like he came in, maybe he came up to the front desk where it was just like me and like other like assistance receptionist, low level girls behind the desk doing like the greeting of people and stuff. He asked everybody's name one into a session for like five hours. I got him like lunch all this shit, came back out, remembered every single one of our names when he left. Like there was like 10 of us. - He's like, Hugh Jackman is famously nice. I have a Hugh Jackman story. - Do you? - Yeah, my mom has a crush on Hugh Jackman. - Who doesn't? - Yeah, he's just like so nice but he's like a safe crush. He's nice in terms of not like a dangerous guy. He's not like a... - He's not like a good guy who I'd be like that. That's the guy who I like but like obviously he's really hot. - He's not like Tom Hardy who's like dangerous and brooding, you know. - I love Tom Hardy. - Yeah. - He was picked out exactly the right way. - Yeah, he's not like that. - Long enough. - Where he's like wounded and I'm gonna heal him and he's like, you know, I don't know what but Hugh Jackman. - I feel like Tom Hardy but you know, I get it. - You know, I don't know. He's just more like dark. - Yeah, he's darker. - Yeah, darker. - Hugh Jackman is like, I'm gonna sing immediately. He like might be gay. I don't know, like, you know who is. - It seems a little, a little, my theory, okay. My completely unproven theory that I've just like come up with from wildly speculating and like being stoned is that Blake Lively who's married to Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively is fucking Taylor Swift. Ryan Reynolds is fucking Hugh Jackman. - Well, you believe that? - I mean, no, but it's a theory I came up with when I was like high on edibles and it kinda, I don't get straight vibes from Ryan Reynolds, I'm gonna be honest. He does not seem like a heterosexual man to me. And neither does Blake Lively doesn't seem super straight either, to be honest. - Interesting. - But again, I'm just wildly speculating and I've no proof about this. - Well, I mean, who knows? You know, this, I feel like he's-- - Not even circumstantial proof, so. - He's celebrity lives, I mean, everybody's lives behind closed doors are different, you know, than any of us could possibly imagine. - Oh, yeah. - But I feel like celebrity lives in particular, there's a lot going on. - When you're that hot, you just like do weird sex shit all the time, too, I feel like, when you're just hot and you're surrounded by hot people, it's like, oh yeah, we're all gonna do like, fucking all kinds of weird sex shit, 'cause everyone's hot and why wouldn't we? - Yeah, I got like $250 million in the bank, like I can do whatever I want. - Yeah, fuck it. - So yeah, so anyway, Hugh Jackman was working on a movie, I don't know what movie it was, but a friend of ours was working on the film and knew, knows my mom and knows how much she loves you, Jackman and has like this, you know, kind of like old lady crush on him. - You remember what movie it was? - It was probably, no, I have no idea. But anyway, it doesn't really matter. The point is that this person was talking to Hugh Jackman and was like, oh, my friend's mom, it's like her 70th birthday today and she like loves you and she was like, oh, give me the phone. That's cooler or whatever with his Australian accent. If I can call my mom and wish her happy birthday. - Wow. - And my mom answered and he's like, hello, Peggy, it's Hugh Jackman. She was like. - I feel like half a party tech on site, was she just like, oh no, all right, that's, I'm out. - She didn't believe it was real. She thought it was a prank. He had to like convince her that it was really Hugh Jackman and then I wanna say too, he autographed like a cover of People magazine that he was on. - Wow, like the sexiest man or something like that? - Yeah, so I mean, I'm a Hugh Jackman fan forever for that. Like he like made my mom's day. Like just like. - Honestly, like that's really sweet. That's a very sweet thing to do. Like, that's like, it's the kind of thing that I feel like if I was like a celebrity celebrity, I'd wanna do all the time just 'cause it's like fun and funny and it makes people happy, like why not? - That's like, that's why you, that's like one of the only reasons why you'd wanna be a celebrity. - Right, exactly. So that I can like, if there's like a little kid on the street who really likes me, I can like be like, oh, look at this adorable child or if there's an old lady who likes me, I can call her on the phone. Like, that's kind of the whole point, right? - That's fun, it's fun. But he's a sweetheart. He's a nice man, not Hugh Jackman. - I know, ever since he came into my work, like I like him forever. Like there was like, there was not another single actor who like even took the effort to like, you know, what my name was when I was bringing them food constantly, you know, like he was really nice. - I need to learn his trick for like Tom Cruise. - They have to have a trick for remembering people's names. I don't know, I always forget everything. - I've heard that looking somebody in the eye when they say their name and then repeating the name back to them makes it sticking your head more at something. Like I've constantly like, forget names right after people tell them to me and that's like the trick that I normally use to try to remember. It works a little bit. - Well, Mira, thank you for that tip. - Well, Brad, you're on the webcam. So we're both looking each other in the eye and it doesn't even look like it. I'll never forget your name for as long as I live. So Tom Cruise, like, you know, I don't know if he's suicidal, but this is the thing. It's just, it's all so sad. Like this whole thing, he's got this kid with Katie Holmes. He's never, never really Caesar as far as I know. Like that's- - Probably better for a kid. - Yeah, but I mean, like the whole scene is just so weird and sad like that, you know. - This is why I feel like he's suicidal. He's got like this dark lonely life where he's like a closet at home sexual and his kid hates him and like all this shit. He's stuck in this cult. - And like you've said before, you're like 100% sure that he's closeted. You feel that. You feel strongly. - 100%. So does the rest of Paulie. I mean, it's just he is a homosexual. - I wanna say Gwyneth Paltrow once was asked that question and she was like, no, he's so straight. - Yeah, of course she would say that. That's like celebrities have like a, they've got an agreement with each other. You're not gonna like out another celebrity 'cause then what's he gonna say about Gwyneth Paltrow? - I don't know where I saw this. There's like a funny joke, probably on social media or something, but somebody like tweeted or made a joke that like, if there are like a dozen, like entitled rich white women together in a group, that's called like a group of white women. (laughing) Like instead of like a gaggle of geez. I don't know. It's like a group of white men that's called a podcast. - That's exactly, exactly. But there's a goop. There's a goop of, you know, women at this restaurant. So, you know, Tom Cruise, suicidal, I think to me it reads more like he's fighting mortality in age. - By trying to kill himself. - By trying to like tempt fate, but also by trying to do these like, it's almost like he's trying to do increasingly dangerous things to like prove his own vitality to the world. - I mean, let me ask you this. Like if you were Tom Cruise's age or any age and you didn't want to die, you valued your life like the way you do now. You really don't want to die. Would you be doing any of this? I wouldn't. - I feel like, and I could be, I could be totally wrong here. - Why dive? - What's the name of that seat? Remember that, you know that like rich like tech bro who's like trying to live to be 150? - He's like trying to like revert back. He's like 17 or he's like injecting the blood of like his son or some weird shit. - There are people who are like, it's a spectrum, right? So it's not everybody's doing exactly the same thing, but there's a kind of dude who is fixated on peak performance, wellness, longevity, like winning the competition of life in the marketplace. All of these things are sort of tied together. And I feel like, I would imagine Tom Cruise as a guy who does the ice bath in the morning and like then the sauna. - 'Cause he likes suffering. - Yeah, and then takes like three dozen supplements. You know, I think that's probably his track, but I don't know. I've never read anything. - I think that's right. - I think that like he is so like OCD concerned with like his body and the way that he looks and like making sure that he like stays like physically feeling good. I think that like if he would never like commit suicide by like becoming a drug addict, he's like way too much of a control for it. He has to like look the way that he likes, he has to be in control of everything. He has to like know that he's in control and like jumping out of a plane as a stunt and dying that way is kind of the only way that he could kill himself, I think. I don't think that he's like brave enough or he's too brainwashed by Scientology at least to do it himself. I think that he has to have it be this. - Well, I mean, this guy has spent, this is the other thing is that this guy has spent the majority of his life being treated as a deity, like not just by the wider culture. I mean, that alone would fuck somebody up just to be like a famous A-list movie star for your whole adult life and to be that rich and to get your ass kissed and you're surrounded by yes people everywhere you go, it's yes, yes, yes. And all of that can distort a person's sense of reality, but to also be essentially the number two guy in this religion, this quote unquote religion. And by far and away, it's most prominent member and like the face of the religion, like David Miscavige aside, like it's Tom Cruise's thing. Like Tom Cruise is the most, like when you think of Scientology, you think of Tom Cruise. And he means an enormous amount to that graph, to that organization and like their ability to function and raise money and bring in new people. - It's like they both have like a relationship that they can't escape from, like they need Tom Cruise to make money and like Tom Cruise needs them so that a bunch of that shit about his life isn't released to the press. - Well, that's the thing, I don't know, I don't know what happens behind closed doors there and like how, he seems to be genuinely into it, but maybe they have leverage over him. - I mean, I think he is genuinely into it and that like, celebrities go there and they essentially get therapy, you know, like that's what they do at Scientology and they use what you're, what you say in therapy as blackmail against you. That's like essentially their whole thing. And so if you're like a celebrity and you haven't felt like comfortable going to therapy, it totally makes sense why Scientology would be appealing to you, right? Like it's, you have this country club, you have this therapy, you have all this stuff, but then I think once you get too deep into it, once you get to the point where you want to leave, they're like, not so much like your fact and Tom Cruise was kind of just like, okay, I'm fucked, let's go, let's go, like I'm part of this religion now. - But then the thing too though, is that they also cater to him and to other celebrities, but especially to him. - Yeah. - So extremely, like did you ever hear that story about how when he was with Nicole Kidman, it somehow became known that she had some fantasy about like frolicking in a field of violets or you know, some flower. And then out at Gold Base, which is like the Scientology ranch out in Hemet in the desert in California, like David Miscavige ordered like Scientology, like the grunt workers, (laughs) these poor fucking people, like the Sea Org or whatever, like they had to like plant like an entire field of these flowers just for like Tom and Nicole so that when they showed up, he could like give her that moment. But I mean, it's like that level of, yeah, and I know I could be messing up details, but it's something like that. And it's that level of curated attention. And he is being told, especially since his circle is so tight, you know, these people have told him, I think that he's special and he's like, he's an elite being, you know. - 'Cause according to Scientology, he's done all of the things, he's done all of the money, he's done the volunteer work, he's done the fucking evangelizing that like gets you up to feet in level seven. - And then yeah, all these people like, imagine like he walks into a church function and like, all these people are like staring at him, like he's God, he's gotta have maybe some sort of like outside sense of immortality or I'm elevated. I can, you know, it's working for him. - Testing his own mortalities, like, okay, can I not die? Let's just try to do, it's like like unbreakable when like he like slowly discovered he could lift anything. He was like, okay, let's try something a little heavier. All right, a little heavier. And then he's like lifting a car. It's like, that's like Tom Cruise with dying. He's like, well, you know, let's try doing a couple flips. Let's try jumping off of a small building. Let's try jumping off of a bigger building. Let's jump out of an airplane. Like you just fucking escalate. - And it genuinely is impressive. I mean, these stunts that he does are incredible. He's incredible, you know. - Really impressive. Although I will say they're stunt guys who do that for a living their whole life too, and they're also impressive. - Yeah, yeah, but I mean, a lot of time, I mean, 9.9 out of 10 movie stars would outsource that shit to somebody instead of doing it themselves. I mean, he's like any actor besides Tom Cruise, probably. - Yeah, I mean, but he loves something out of a plane. That's the kind of thing that you really wouldn't even have a stunt actor do. You would just like, CGI that shit. - And like base jumping? Like you couldn't pay me enough to base jump. And I've-- - I hope you never insured. - You just like pay for these movies? Like no company would ever insure him. - I don't know. He's probably just like, yeah, don't insure me. Like I'll do it. I'll take the hit. If I die, I die, you know. - He has to like, you must have to sign a contract saying I'll take the hit though. Cause otherwise it's like-- - Well, what's he gonna take? He'll be dead. - But like the studio will be like whoever his heirs are. Like the studio would have to pay them out if he died like a wrongful death. - Oh, no, I think he, there's, I don't know. I don't know. - Ooh, that's something that like waves that. - Yeah, I mean, no. - I can't imagine they would be liable. Like if he wants to do these stunts. - He would never let you do it. - Yeah, he's gotta say, I wanna do these. I accept the risk. - Yeah. - Hey you guys, it is summertime. It's beautiful, it's hot, it's sunny. There's a lot going on. And before you head outside, be sure to fuel up with factors, no prep, no mess meals. 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Like, what's he gonna? - I think he keeps doing it until he's like too injured to do anything else. Like, this seems like he's heading for death or becoming paraplegic unless he's like, maybe it's a truly freakish situation where like, he'll just live until he's like 90 or whatever and like, keep doing this until he basically can't. That'd be wild though. - I think he's gonna live a long time. - I have a feeling Tom Cruise is gonna outlive both of us. - See, like I need that ability to live forever to be transferred to David Lynch instead of Tom Cruise. - Well, I've been listening to interviews. I've got on like, I mean, not a lot, but I got onto this, I get into these little micro obsessions and I was listening to an interview with God, what's his name? He's like a futurist, Ray Kurzweil. He just wrote a book and he is predicting the future and he's had some success making predictions. - He's predicting the future. - Well, but I mean, like he tracks like technology trends and advancements in human, you know. - Is he right, usually? - He predicted the internet, he predicted social media. I mean, he's had-- - He predicted the internet? - Like, yeah, yeah, years and years ago was like, this is coming, I don't know, like in the 80s. - The internet already exists at that point, basically. - Well, I mean, I think he was predicting it like becoming like mainstreamed, which it would not have been at all at that point. - I say, I say. - And so he is talking about like the future of health. I mean, he talks about a lot of things, but one of the things he says is that, you know, the integration of the human body and mind with technology, like nanobot technology is coming by like 2045. It's gonna be like revolutionary in terms of how-- - The nanobot technology like-- - Like a little computer, they're gonna be able to inject like little like robots, essentially, that go in and like overtake a cancer cell. Do you know what I'm saying? - This is the thing that I'm gonna become like whatever the equivalent of an anti-vaxxer is, but to little robots that they inject into your body. I'm gonna be like, oh, that's gonna cure my cancer. It'll inject the fucking robots into me all die instead. Thank you. - But yeah, so he, but he, what he's saying is that, I think by like, I wanna say it's by 2045, that happens. But as soon as like, it's, I think sooner than that, we're gonna hit a point where like health technology and the ability for medical science to sort of counteract disease and to extend life is going to be such that like, as we get older, we're gonna actually start gaining time. Like right now, every day that goes by-- - I'm talking about the time, right? Like people now live to be much older. - Yeah. - Than some times it would like go up, right? - Yeah, but we're getting to a point where it's gonna start to extend. Like you get to like 20, 30 something and it's like you're actually gonna start gaining time, the average person. He thinks that the first person to live to a thousand is already alive on earth. - I think he's wrong. (laughing) I think that's not-- - I think it's gonna be Tom. - It's gonna be Tom Cruise. - It's gonna be Tom Cruise. - A lot of money, a thousand years old, a thousand. I'm like, okay, like 200 would be a stretch, but the person, I'm sorry, I'm late. - But it's like if you can start to manufacture organs and mass, like, and you can figure out cancer, I mean, like there could be ways to just sort of replace parts. It's like-- - It's gonna be an age, it gets damaged. What do you do about that? - I don't know. I don't know, I asked Ray Kurzweil. I don't even know why I'm talking about 'cause of Tom Cruise. I think Tom Cruise is gonna live to a thousand is my point. - If anyone who is alive right now is gonna live to be a thousand, it's probably Tom Cruise. Or Tal, Tal might live to be a thousand, honestly, with all of his weird shit, like, who knows? - Yeah, who knows? Or the dude, the tech bro, who takes like 600 supplements. - That guy's gonna die in like a week on certain evidence. - Yeah, well, Ray Kurzweil takes like 130 supplements a day. He's 76, and I gotta say, he seems every bit 76. He doesn't seem younger. I mean, he's with it and he can, he seems like an old man. - Yeah, sometimes I feel like these people who like predict like we're gonna live forever, we're gonna upload our consciousness. It's just like wishful thinking. Like they're just like, oh, like, I'm not gonna die soon. I'm gonna live to be a thousand. Or like, at least it's very possible that I will. And it's like, are you really predicting that because of like trends and like objectively or are you predicting that? 'Cause like you kind of want it. - I think it's a little bit of both. - Yeah. - I don't know, but anyway. So Tom Cruise, speaking of living forever, there are romance rumors happening where I guess he's like potentially possibly in some sort of courtship with. - This screams PR. - Chris Martin singing protege. I don't even know who this is. Who is this? - Okay. Mission Impossible actor, Tom Cruise, 62, has sparked rumors with Spanish singer Victoria Kanal, whom he met at Glastonbury Festival in England earlier this year. Kanal 25 joined Coldplay on stage for their electric headlining set in June. Miss Cruise was spotted watching from the VIP area. She's 25 years old. According to sources, the pair first met at a music festival before their friendship turned romantic in recent weeks. Dude, this is fake as fuck. Like no fucking way, Tom invited Victoria to watch him film for the whole day. And that is not just something he does for random friends. It might have seemed unlikely that it would become anything more than friends, but they're pretty much inseparable. - When was the last time Tom Cruise dated a woman? - He broke up with some Russian socialite earlier this year. It was what I heard. It's like some model looking person. - We heard hear from these women. This is like fake shit. These are beards, I don't believe it. - I feel like 62 and 25 is a pretty big age split. What is a cute 25? - 35 years? - I mean, and you're dating Tom Cruise, it's 62. I mean, what's the allure? - Bearding is shockingly common in Hollywood music industry-fame circles. Like you think it doesn't happen as much 'cause it's like being gay is much more acceptable now, but it's really, really common to pay somebody to be like, I'm dating this or that person. And then you break up in a month or whatever and you get money from it. Like this girl seems hired to me. - And if it's not, like let's say that they really are dating. Does she have-- - She can say I dated Tom Cruise for a while. - And it helps raise her profile. - I mean, if I was 25 and Tom Cruise hit on me, I'd probably be like, all right, sure, I'll come on set and go on a few dates with you or whatever, like for the experience. - And then he like calls you into his trailer. Like he invites you to come to set and calls you into his trailer. And like David Miscavige is sitting there, just like in a three-piece suit, just like smiling, like a demon, just like well-- - Which jelly Miscavige is like in a glass box, you can't hear. (laughs) - We still haven't found Shelley Miscavige, have we? - That Tom Cruise knows. - God. - You think he knows? - I don't know, I mean, I want to say he-- - That's a good idea. - He and David Miscavige are tight. You would think that if David Miscavige confided in anyone, it would be like the deity that is Tom Cruise, but like, if he killed her, I mean, like she's probably either in solitary confinement somewhere or like imprisoned. - She's dead. - You think she's dead. - I think she's dead. I mean, how long has it been since we last saw her? - Like a long time. - Like a really long time. - Yeah, it's fucked up. - I mean, I guess he is capable of like locking her in a basement, but-- - More than capable. - Yeah, more than capable, but someone would have to like feed her and she'd have to like be somewhere. - Yeah, that's what the Sea Org is for. That's what the Sea Org is for. - I thought he wouldn't risk it. I feel like he would just kill her. - Yeah, probably. - Like, 'cause then he can't take her out of confinement at that point, 'cause she'll just be like, I was in confinement, so like you'd have to kill her. - I mean, David Miscavige, he's such a nutter, man. He just, he gives me the worst creepy vibes. Like, I don't know how does anybody look at that guy and be like, yeah, I'm gonna follow him. - I mean-- - He's in charge, okay, good. - I mean, I think the same about many, many cult leaders, you know, you see like fucking Jim Jones and it's like, why did anybody follow this fucking like fat Elvis motherfucker to fucking Guyana? What the fuck? But there they are. - Yeah, it's so twisted. I got, I was on a Charles Manson kick recently. I read a book about-- - Oh, did you read the one about him being the CIA? - Yeah. - So good. - What's it called? It's called a-- - It's got a long title. It's like Charles Manson and the CIA and-- - No, no, no, no. I read a book that's one word. - Oh, oh, I know that. - Chaos or mayhem, mayhem, I think is what it's called. - Is that right? The fucking-- - And it was by a journalist who lived in Venice and who got into it and like makes a, I mean, like I don't know if it's the definitive 'cause I don't know if you can get there with the facts as presently understood but like makes a very convincing case that Charles Manson was probably a CIA, was probably being run by the CIA. - I like, I'm, I feel crazy saying it and I rarely say it out loud in social situations 'cause people will be like, this bitch has a tin foil hat on but like I'm pretty convinced. Like that book convinced me. - Well, I mean, the hate ashberry free clinic which was set up as like, you know, a place for poor hippie kids who were basically homeless runaways to be able to get medical treatment in the 1960s was definitely CIA. - Yeah. - And they were giving these kids free medical care as a way of being able to study them 'cause they were like freaked out by this youth movement and Manson was, Manson was there. I mean, Manson was in that and then he was also on parole and I don't know. I'd have to like actually get back into the book to get the facts straight. - Yeah, I don't remember the exact facts either but it's like if they're trying to gather a youth movement to understand what the deal is, it would make sense to have somebody like Manson on your side to like do something psychotic like that just to see what happens like in that kind of psychotic situation if you see that potential and somebody as the CIA kind of makes sense. - Yeah, I mean, I think it was more like, I don't know if he was like, he wasn't like, like Charles Manson wasn't, he's too crazy to be like doing things for the CIA. They just knew, they just knew he had this little hippie community of girls following him and they basically were like feeding him money and drugs and like studying him and then shit whatsoever. - It's the money that doesn't add up unless there was some funding from elsewhere. Like those girls didn't have enough money to fund what was going on in the Manson. - A commune. - Yeah, I mean, they weren't living high on the hook but the whole thing is so fucking interesting. And the, you know, I don't even know how we got here. Oh, David Miscavige and Tom Cruise, but I guess they're all. - My grandma and grandpa back like when the Manson trials were happening, they got caught with like a good amount of weed in the house, which actually belonged to my uncle but my grandma and my grandpa took credit for us and my uncle wouldn't have to like potentially go to jail. And it was like a massive, massive charge. Anyways, they eventually ended up getting off literally because my grandma used to fuck the judge. It was like her ex-boyfriend was the judge. And she was able to be like, dude, like we'll give you a good amount of money if you just like-- - I'll fuck you again if you just-- - I mean, you know, she never said that 'cause like I'm her granddaughter but I do feel like that was the implication to be totally honest. But when they were going into court, the Manson girls were like walking down the hallway like with a famous picture when they have like the fucking exes on their head and they're like, you know, wearing the outfits or whatever in their handcuffs, walk right by them. And the girls like smiled and kind of like waved and like my grandparents had to be like, uh-uh, uh-uh. Like we're hippie weirdos but not like that. We're not with you guys. - Yeah, I mean, those, so twisted, like the way that, like how, they were doing a lot of asset too. - Oh yeah. - Those kids, the Manson kids and they just, they were gone. They weren't simply banged. They were driven to the brink of insanity. - That's from a day. Yeah. - I mean, too insanity. - No doubt. So I don't know. So Tom Cruise now possibly has a 25 year old girlfriend or it could just be for show like just to get PR and like-- - Either way, it's weird. - Either way. And like I always feel like protective of these young girls who get involved with him 'cause it's like you can't date or be in a long-term serious relationship with him without giving yourself over to Scientology, right? He can't date, like he doesn't just date somebody who's like, "No, you know, I'm an atheist, like I'm not injured." - I would be surprised if we found out this girl like was raised in Scientology or something like that. Like I would bet the church of Scientology has a hand in who he gets to date publicly and who he does not. - Yeah. I really, I know it will not happen probably in my lifetime or maybe after like I think probably Katie Holmes would have to die. Tom Cruise would have to die. Like David Miscavige might have to die, but like eventually there needs to be a book and a movie made about how Katie Holmes got out of that marriage. Like that story is so fascinating to me. - You know, we have a family friend. I'm just like remembering this for some like 10 years when Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise were like gonna get divorced and it was like in the midst of like the whole debacle. We had the family friend who made shirts that just said like free Katie Holmes and she made enough money off of those shirts to put a down payment on a house in Los Angeles. - No, wow. - In like Pasadena too, like a nice house. - Where was she selling these t-shirts? - Online, like I think mostly online. - I mean, that was a very delicate ex-fill. Like she had, you know, Katie Holmes's dad is a, I want to say is a divorce attorney. - Oh, right. Okay. Yes. I think you mentioned that that makes a lot of sense how she was able to get out of it. Like otherwise she would be fucked. - The secrecy, the cloak and dagger, moving to New York where divorce laws were friendlier. - Yeah, she could have met another Shelly Miscavige. - Yeah. I mean, and she got that kid out of that thing too. Cause you know, he took the kids that he had with Nicole Kidman. - Yeah. - And they stayed in Scientology. And Katie, Katie got her daughter out. So I don't know. I'm always rooting for them, but. - Same. I mean, it seems like Katie Holmes kind of just gave up her career to make sure that her daughter was like safe. This whole Scientology shit. - Right. Good for her. - All right. Well, what else is happening? - So, okay. This is one that you added. I didn't know that this was an issue, but apparently the headline is "Ban a White" and Ryan Seacrest finally get along as Wheel of Fortune filming begins. So they had some kind of beef. - Is Ryan Seacrest just the host of everything? How did this guy? - Okay. Wait. This is not quite on topic, but you know, my favorite thing the Ryan Seacrest does is his hosting thing. It's so psychotic. And I haven't heard a lot of people talk about it, but in Los Angeles, if you tune into 102.7, KISS FM, I think it is. Early in the morning, when I used to, when I worked for Snoop Dogg and I would drive there in the morning, I would carpool and we would all listen to this thing. It's called Ryan's Roses. And what it is is that he has somebody on the station, not him, but some, one of the other hosts on the station, they'll get phone calls from people who think that their partner is cheating on them. And what they'll do is they'll have somebody from the radio station call their partner and say, we're from a local florist and we're giving out free bouquets to people in the neighborhood. We'd like to give you a free bouquet of roses. Who would you like to send it to? And then if they choose to send it to, like they'll maybe choose to send it to their girlfriend or maybe they'll choose to send it to the person they're having an affair with. And meanwhile, their partner is on the phone listening the whole time. And so as soon as they say, like, I want to give this to, you know, my mistress, the person on the other line is like, how fucking could you? Like, what the fuck? And you just hear marriages dissolve. It's like eight in the morning. You hear like just multiple marriages just dissolve as Ryan Seacrest gets on the phone. And he's like, hey, so actually you're on the radio right now and we have your girlfriend on the line. And they're like, why the fuck is Ryan Seacrest talking to me? Like, what the fuck is going on? It's horrendous every day he does this. - Every day, yeah. 'Cause he like hosts like a, you know, like crack-a-dawn radio show. He did "America's Got Talent" or something like that. Or what is it? - Probably or like "The Voice" or something. - Something like that. And then he does "The New Year's Eve" thing. He's just like the Dick Clark. He's the Dick Clark of "The Millennials" or something. - Yeah, he's kind of like dime store Andy Cohen too with like the, he produced the "Keeping Up with the Kardashians" and the new Kardashian show. And I want to say some other reality shows too, but I'm not sure. - Gotta be worth a fortune. - Oh yeah, big time. - And they got him to host "We have a Fortune" because Pat Sajak retired. - Oh, he's hosting it like for good now? - I guess, unless it's a temporary thing, but it seems like, you know, he and Vanna White were having the problems. - Yeah, what? Is Ryan super gay and like what? - And why is Vanna White still on that fucking show? Like when Pat Sajak- - Oh, the Hottie's still, that's amazing. - She looks great. And like nothing against her, but like dude, like you made it, 42 show. It's like the 42nd season of the show. - Well, here's what I don't understand. Why didn't they just make Vanna White the host? She's been there for so long. She knows exactly how it works. Like she would be the ideal host, wouldn't she? - I mean, she turns those letters. That's her, I mean, can you imagine? That's her whole life. Her whole life is just turning those letters. - Kind of a great job. - She's made a fortune. She's worth a fortune for doing that. - For her. - Yeah, I mean, I wrote- - I don't fucking don't. - But Seacrest and her are, you know, budding heads. - Makes me like her more that she has some kind of issue with Ryan Seacrest because like no celebrity has an issue with Ryan Seacrest. You kind of can't admit that as a celebrity 'cause he's so powerful. But she's like, I'm Vanna White. What the fuck are you gonna do? I have one job and I do it every day. - Ryan won't make his television debut as host until September. I mean, and she's like, I know how this place works and he's showing up as like the new guy. - Right, he's like, all right. Like I'm the head bitch in charge here. - It's not that complicated. I mean, it's like a spelling show, right? You just spell words. - Yeah, but Ryan Seacrest is probably like really salty that like he wasn't head honcho the minute he showed up. She's like, no, I run this place. Like I've been here for longer, fuck you. - Power struggle. - I'm team Vanna White all the way. - At one point, insiders became convinced that Vanna had decided to step down after failing to form a productive partnership with Ryan. In fact, a rumor that Vanna would be replaced by Kim Kardashian. - Oh my God. - Took hold on social media, but now it seems Ryan has remedied the situation by entering quote, full Mr. Nice Guy mode. - Terrifying. - Vanna White has aged remarkably well. - She's hot, dude. Like how old is she? Like-- - She's gotta be in her 60s, I would guess. - At least. - You don't wanna push her out. She's a legend. She's a TV legend. - What the fuck is Wheel of Fortune without Vanna White? It's nothing. The whole point is that she's there fucking like, you know, doing the letters. - Asked if Pat Sayjack has reached out to Ryan to offer any advice, a source told the mirror quote, "He's too busy having fun with all this "new found free time he's got." Ryan can reach out to Pat if he wants, but asking isn't getting. - That's so funny. Like, and like advice for what? Like how to deal with Vanna White? Like, oh, how'd you deal with Vanna White all that time? Like, what the fuck? - I mean, these people who host like the family feud, like these institutional game shows, that's a sweet gig. I mean, it's so like the price is right. - I mean, the host do it till they die, right? Like, it's like fucking Jeopardy, my fucking brain. I'll never remember a name. - Alex Trebek. - Alex Trebek. - Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Make a fortune, it's pretty easy. Get to be the host, give people money if they win. I saw Jeopardy live once. And the most surprising thing to me was like, you know, in the beginning of Jeopardy, when they're like, there's like a voice and it's like, "Alex Trebek." That guy is their live. Johnny, he's a guy and he sits in a chair and that his entire job is just doing that announcement and he's been there like since the beginning. - In college, friends and I attended a taping of the prices right with like old school with Bob Barker and Rod Roddy on LSD. And yeah, so that's one of my fonder memories. - It would mean a coworker went to this Jeopardy taping and we both took a very, very strong edible and like you're really not allowed to make noise in the audience when Jeopardy is taping and there was a couple of moments where we like almost bust out laughing and there was like behind the audience like, don't do it. - Yeah, so yeah, we were like, we were such a mess at in the studio, which of course is like much smaller when you're there in person than you would expect. You go into the prices right studio and it's like this tiny room. And I mean, this was like the peak of my happy years. I had long hair. I'm probably wearing like a tie-dye shirt. - You will include a photo from the promo of this. - I had not slept in like 36 hours. And then to get on the prices right, you have to show up at like six o'clock in the morning. - Right. - Get in line at CBS Television City and like we're in line. We're sort of like, you know, tripping. And by the time the show happened, it's like three or four hours later. And they interview you in line. That's how they decide who they're gonna call. Like the, you know, come on. - Oh, 'cause like they'll choose like contestants from the audience. - Yeah, it's like, come on down. You're the next contestant. And so there are people there who all have like the same t-shirt on. Like that's one strategy. You're like a group, we're a group from Iowa. We all came out and we were there and we're just like bug-eyed and bonkers. And the funny thing is that we were so offended that like none of us got called up. We couldn't believe it. We felt robbed. - Your eyes were white. Just like, yeah, just bugging out of our head. We were seven, you know, clueless, but good memories. And then later when the episode aired, the episode aired like a month and a half later, you know, they taped these things ahead of time. So it was like, I don't know, I don't know how long it was, but it was significantly after the trip, the spring break. And we had like a kegger at our house for it to like watch the show. - You probably weren't even on the episode. Like at all. - We were though, we were. Yeah, they panned the audience and I'm like in a tie-dye, like just tripping my face. - You're gonna point out the audience probably. - Yeah, just like, yeah, just bugging out in that studio. But so that's that. And then Vanna White and Ryan Seacrest, like I hope they get along. I kind of feel like Vanna should have gone out with Pat. Like just make it a clean break, but she's hanging on. - I feel like she should have insisted on being the host. 'Cause like Vanna White has power. You leave, like you kick Vanna White at a wheel of fortune, people are gonna be mad. She kind of, she, I think she should have been host. - Vanna White incidentally is also now doing her own stunts and is going to you skydive onto the Hollywood sign in protest. She's a little fortune sign, but we'll keep onto the crowd. - She refuses to admit that time is passing her by, but so what else is happening in the world? - Ooh, okay, this is my favorite. So today we decided that instead of the Brad Learn segment, we are going to focus our attention on a very important breaking story, which is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is an independent presidential candidate, admitted to leaving a corpse of a dead bear cub in Central Park. - What the fuck? - So what the fuck, right? Now, he explained it and it still doesn't make sense. So let's just preface there. Like his story makes no sense. What happened is yesterday, he posted a tweet with the caption, "Looking forward to how you spend this one New Yorker at New Yorker," and in the video. - Meaning like the "New Yorker" magazine. - So it's a video of him talking to Roseanne Barr. - Why the fuck is he with Roseanne Barr? - I don't know, this is, I haven't been able to figure this part out. Why the fuck is he? And like Roseanne Barr is looking at him like, "Oh no, God, how are you talking?" I don't, and like Roseanne Barr is insane. - I was going to say, when Roseanne Barr is looking at you like, you're crazy, you know you've spiraled into like, holding a cup like this and she's like, (laughing) Oh, I don't know. - So the headline basically is that Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., who is a presidential candidate, who has admitted that he has a brain worm. - He admitted that a worm got into his brain, ate part of it and died specifically. - Is now admitting that he left a dead bear cub in Central Park and staged it so that it would look like the bear had gotten run over by a bike. And now I think that it does bear mentioning that earlier this month there was a scandal in which a photo was circulated of him next to a woman holding what appeared to be a dead cooked dog. And R.F.K. Jr. then came to defend himself and said, "No, no, no, no, it was a go." - Okay, so let's just pause because this guy, he pisses me off, he's a chaos agent. - Yeah. - He's like the craziest, he's like the craziest Kennedy, maybe even more than like little Edie. - And he could fuck up this election with his nonsense. You know, people are gonna vote for this guy. I don't know who, but like-- - Yeah, who? - I mean, like 3%. - But it's wild. - Like what do you, like the whole thing is so fucked up. And he's so obviously unfit for any public office. - And it's like in addition to like the many, many, just like plethora of reasons why he's like, a crazy person who like should, not only shouldn't be president, but probably shouldn't have any job anywhere ever because he's so fucking insane. Like just a crazy bad guy. - Like he's got like the endorsement of some celebrities too, like Dave. - I mean, he's married to Cheryl Hines, who was Larry David's wife in Curb Your Enthusiasm. - What is she thinking? She's gotta be, she's gotta be like this guy's nuts. - I mean, the only time she's ever talked about her husband publicly was when she had to release a statement saying that she did not approve of his Holocaust denial. - And he, his previous wife committed suicide. - Oh, yeah, okay, that is-- - I want to say, I want to say. - Yeah, I think you did. - Okay, so I have some conspiracy theory-mindedness about this, just the fact that he's running this campaign as like a disrupter and a chaos agent, you know, the fact-- - His past, he's always been fucking insane. He's always done crazy shit over and over and over and over again. So maybe that's it, okay? Like I think like the Occam's razor take on it would be like, always been crazy, likes to do crazy shit. - He like, he's got the money for it. - Narcissistic personality disorder wants to have attention, wants to like somehow claim the family mantle as like a political leader. - The lead to the extra smart and has like seen through the like, shift of other people and that he can like be a benefit to society, like he is delusional. - Yeah, that could be it. - Also the former junkie, maybe a little brain damage. Sorry to use the word junkie, I've known many, I know many addicts and I love them, but he was a heroin addict and maybe has a little brain damage from it. - Maybe a lot of brain damage. - I don't mean a lot of brain damage. - But the other thing, I mean, there's another part of me that's like, okay, so the scion of the Kennedy political dynasty named Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now running at a pivotal moment when America is like teetering on the brink of like authoritarian kleptocracy, like a fascist movement is like threatening to take power. And you've got this guy who has this name brand that is so associated with like progressive politics in America and like a noble tradition of liberal politics in America, somewhat noble. The Kennedys, I mean JFK and RFK, yeah, very beloved. And so to have this guy running as a disruptor in this election with that brand, which you would think would hurt the Democrats since the Kennedys are, but I guess it, you know, I think he could be taking votes from Trump too. - I mean, also there's, I think he's probably mostly taking those from Trump, honestly, like, and like... - Okay, then keep them in. I like him now, like he's gonna take votes from Trump. Let's keep him in. - Like his whole family has been like, we don't like him. Why is he running for president? Do not vote for him. Fuck this guy. Like many, many members of his family. - Okay, so let me just finish my conspiracy theory. Like tin foil hat thing is then to do this, when you have no chance of winning, and it's kind of a public humiliation, and you have this many skeletons in your closet. Like God only knows what we don't know about this guy, but like the stuff that we're learning about him is just so bizarro and like troubling. - Like a new thing every week, and like just like the weirdest thing you could possibly predict. Like next thing you know, he's gonna be like, again, like the zodiac killer? Oh yeah, I knew the zodiac killer. - Yeah, that's right. I mean, honestly, like that's like where it's headed. Like that sort of craziness. It makes me wonder, and with a history of substance abuse difficulties, it would be very easy for me to imagine how a foreign intelligence service would want a guy named Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On tape, having sex with like underage girls or hookers or being wasted, or it would be very easy to get leverage over him and to run him as a foreign asset. It would, and that's how this shit works. Like they get you on tape, they honey trap you or whatever it's called. They get you on tape doing unsavory things sexually or with drugs or both. - And as much as like I love the conspiracy minded brain that you're having right now, and generally that's where my brain is at too. Like yes, let's go full conspiracy. However, if they are blackmailing him into running as president, why is like every bad thing he's ever done coming to light, still? - Probably 'cause the press is like, who knows? I mean, did the New Yorker break this story about the bear, the dead bear cub? - Today, but yesterday is when he like preempted the New Yorker posting it by posting this video of him explaining the whole story to Roseanne Barr and used the caption, looking forward to how you spin this one as if the New Yorker would have to spin the story at all to make it seem insane. Like they wouldn't, you don't have to do any kind of spin on this story to make it seem completely fucking insane. - Yeah, so he's driving an upstate New York and he sees a bear cub get hit. And then he picks it up. - Yeah, so like the story that he told her, I've literally like written down notes because it doesn't fucking add up. So in the video, he describes that he dumped a bear cub corpse in Central Park 10 years ago, 10 years ago, exactly. - In New York City. - In New York City in Central Park. So what happened is that he was going hawking with some friends. Now I had to look up what hawking is 'cause I don't hunt, I don't know what the fuck that is. Do you know what it is? - That's where you're looking for hawks. - It's where you get a trained hawk to like bring like prey or like whatever, like small animals, like squirrels, bunnies, whatever the fuck, the trained hawk brings them and you shoot them. That's hawking apparently. - You shoot the bunny, you don't shoot the hawk. - You don't shoot the hawk, you shoot the bunny. Exactly, the hawk is trained to like bring you the bunnies and I think maybe have them in the air and drop them and then you shoot them. - You shoot them out of the sky like skeet? - I think it's both, I think you shoot them out of the sky and sometimes on the ground. But like they're hawks, they pick them up like that. - That's some rich people shit. - It is, it's often weird as hell and I don't like it and I think it's creepy. But so he was on his way to go hawking with friends very, very early in the morning. He said it was like seven or something like that. And then so his story is that a woman in front of him on the road said a woman hit a bear cub with her car. He doesn't, no, okay, I'll go through the whole story before I get into my questions, which are many. So a woman hits the bear cub. There's a dead bear cub in the road. R.F.K. Jr. then goes picks up the dead bear and puts it in his car. He said that his plan was to skin the bear and store the meat in his freezer. - You're gonna eat bear. - You're gonna eat bear. I guess he's gonna eat bear. - Do people eat bears, do people eat bears? - No, I've never heard of anyone eating a bear. He also claimed that he was like, and don't worry, it's legal in New York State because you can get something called a bear tag for roadkill bears. I don't know why that exists or why you would want to take a roadkill. Like that's fucking weird as fuck to me. And he wanted to eat the bear meat, I guess. I don't know what he wanted to do with the bear skin. I don't know why he picked up this. It is like so, it makes no fucking sense to him, right? - That makes no fucking sense. - So he's gonna skin the bear, freeze the meat, and save the fur, like make some sort of pelt out of it or something? - Presumably, I mean, who knows, he didn't even say. So, okay, so they're hawking. Apparently it went really well. They ended up staying pretty late. Then he says he had a dinner that night at Peter Luger's Steakhouse in New York. He said that they stayed out hawking too late so he wasn't able to go home before he went to Peter Luger's Steakhouse. He had to go directly to Peter Luger's Steakhouse. So, there's a dead bear in his car. He is going from hawking hunting to Peter Luger's Steakhouse with a dead bear in his car, all right? - Oh, yeah. - So, he goes to Peter Luger's Steakhouse. He specifies that he was not drinking, 'cause he's sober, but there was other people drinking at the dinner, and he said that his, that the fellow dinner guests who are with him said that they thought it would be funny, funny, amusing, to leave the dead bear in Central Park and make it look like a bike accident. Like somebody had hit a bear cub in Central Park with their bike, which is insane. There's like, I don't, like, if anybody, as I remember in Central Park in New York, there's no fucking bears in Central Park. There's like rats, and that's it. Like, that's psychotic. So, he's at this dinner. They think, oh, hilarious, go like, set up this dead bear cubs to make it look like it was hit by a bike. So, they go to Central Park. He says they had just put bike lanes into Central Park. So, there was a lot of bike accidents happening at the time, which I guess is why he thought bike accident. Now, he says that he had an old bike in his trunk. So, he's coming back from hawking. He's going to Peter Luger's Steakhouse, and in his car, there is a dead bear in an old bike. I don't know why. So, he says that then, him and his friends at dinner dumped the bear in Central Park and made it look like a bike accident. Now, I have a whole list of questions here. - All right, let's hear them. - Okay, so, a woman hit the bear cub with her car. Not RFK Junior, someone else. Where the fuck did that woman go? Was that a hit and run? Did she hit the bear and just fucking drive away? Or did she say like, oh no, I hit a bear. Let's put it in RFK Junior's trunk. What happened to that lady? She hit a bear cub. Like, wouldn't you think that that would kind of be part of it? - Well, I mean, I think she might have hit it, and then pulls over and is like, oh my God, I killed this poor bear cub. And then RFK Junior pulled over. I was like, don't worry about it, lady, I'll take it. - So, RFK Junior was a conservationist. Don't you think that if she had killed a bear cub, he would have like called some kind of professional agency to like get the bear cub and figure out where it came from and who its mother was, et cetera. Like, bears aren't that common, right? - No, I mean, I don't think-- - What a bear cub from this trunk. - 'Cause he's a weirdo. - Also, it was a bear cub. Where the fuck was the mama bear? Like, I don't hike, but even I know that if you see a bear cub, there's a mama bear nearby, and that bear's gonna fuck you up. - Could be. - Where the fuck is the mama bear? - Yeah, I mean, that's a good-- - Would you do that immediately? - Well, I mean, maybe, well, I guess, maybe she saw the bear cub get hit and ran away or something. I don't know. - I didn't know. - It's weird, right? So like, I don't know what the fuck that's about. That doesn't make any sense to me. I, if I had to guess, I would say RFK definitely hit the bear and it's just pretending that he didn't, 'cause that's really illegal to kill a bear. And then, okay, second question. So, hawking is when you hunt small prey animals with the help of a trained hawk. - Well, he might have shot the bear. - That, exactly. He had a fucking hunting rifle on him this whole time. Did he just shoot the bear? It seems kind of like it would make a little more sense than just some lady running over the bear and him just like taking the roadkill off the road. - Yeah, and like, I think too, you know, if these cops in Central Park find this carcass, it's not like they're gonna run an autopsy on the bear. They don't know how it died. They just know there's just a dead bear in the park. - And also, if the bear was hit by a car, you wouldn't have to run an autopsy to see that the bear was hit by a car and not a fight. It would be very clear, I think. It would have to have entire marks on it. It would be all fucked up in a way that being hit by a bike would not, it wouldn't kill a bear. The bear would kill you if you hit it with a bike. - Yeah. - It doesn't make any sense. - So we think, so you're postulating that he shot it or killed it somehow? - I mean, I don't know. It may be hit it with this guy, I don't know, but it does seem weird that he was able to make a bear who was hit by a car look like it was killed with a bike. - How do you make it look like it was killed with a bike? Did it have tire tracks on it? - Did he ride the bike over the baby bear cup at Central Park? Making, that's what you'd have to do to make it look like a bike accident, it's horrifying. - I'm like, who put horrific details here? - Well, who puts a dead animal, like a bleeding dead animal in your car? - Why are you touching it? Why are you doing anything with that besides like calling the police? - Or calling like animal services or whatever. - He's a consequence, he should know who to call. - Yeah, he should have them on speed dial. - Yeah, like that's fucking insane. So like, okay, so then another question that I have which is, I don't, maybe you'll be able to answer this. When you go hawking, you hunt small animals. Did he have a bunch of small dead animals in his car also? - I don't know, I'm not a hunter. I don't know anything about that. That doesn't appeal to me. - If anything where understands what you do with the dead animals after you go hawking, let me know because in my mind, I'm imagining like a bunch of dead squirrels and rabbits and a dead bear cub in his car. - What do you want? I mean, I guess people sometimes eat rabbit. Sometimes you can eat squirrel, but like, what is Robert F. Kennedy? He's got more money than God. He can eat a, he can go to, what is it called? Richard Luger, Robert Luger's Steakhouse or whatever. What is it, Peter Luger? Yeah, Richard Luger was a senator from Indiana. But Peter Luger's Steakhouse for dinner, he doesn't need to eat squirrels. And like, typically when you hunt and you kill like a deer or something, you field dress it. So you like gut the animal and like. - Yeah, well, I guess his plan was to gut the animal at home and take the pelt and put them in his fucking freezer. - Like in New York, he lives in the city. He's gonna gut an animal and it's like penthouse. - Even in car in New York and driving to Peter Luger Steakhouse is kind of hard for me to believe, to be honest. Like, I know he did it, but like, that's fucking weird. - The whole thing, the whole scene, the whole package. - So like, I have more questions here. So the timeline, right? He's talking. It goes really well. He's our lady. I have to go straight to Peter Luger Steakhouse. Okay, now his story is that after Peter Luger Steakhouse, he was talking to his friends there, they were like, "It would be so hilarious and funny. "Ha ha, you left the dead bear in the park "and ran it over with a bike. "We don't think it's weird the other dead bear in your car. "We just think it's hilarious, ha ha." Whatever the fuck he's claiming happened at this dinner. And then after the dinner, he said he had to go straight to the airport. So he wasn't able to go home with the dead bear carcass, which is why he dumped it in Central Park. So what I'm wondering is, why did he have his luggage? Did he have his luggage? Did he take his luggage, hawking with him? How did he have any luggage when he went to the airport and flew somewhere? - Wait, wait, wait, wait. Did I hear you correctly? Like he left Central Park and went to the airport? - Yes. He went directly from hawking to Peter Luger Steakhouse to the airport. But between Peter Luger Steakhouse and the airport, he left a dead bear in Central Park. - This guy is so fucking crazy that I don't even, I can't even like process it. It doesn't make any sense. - It doesn't make any sense. Now, okay, here's, I looked up how late Peter Luger Steakhouse is open. It's open until 9.15. So let's say he was at Peter Luger Steakhouse until closing. Let's say he was there even an hour after closing and it was 10 p.m. Central Park at 10 p.m. is busy. There's people there. There's people all over the place. It's not like a like dark empty park at 10 p.m. You'd have to go there at like 3 a.m. Where the fuck was he dumping this bear at 9 p.m.? 10 p.m.? People would see him and then he's running over the bear with a bite. - I don't know. - How he doing that at 9 p.m.? - So what do you think happened? - I don't, I'm confused as hell. I like honest to God don't even know. Like I don't, it seems unrealistic that his friends at dinner would be like, it's hilarious you have a dead bear in your car. Like let's go run over it with a bike in Central Park. That seems like it didn't happen. I feel like it was a solo thing. But there's a lot of details I can't really figure out. How did he get to the airport without his luggage? Did he have this dinner at Peter Luger Steak? Like what was the timeline of events here? - I mean, here's what I would say is like, if he's flying, I don't know where he was going. Do we know where he was going? - Nope. - I mean, if he's flying from New York where he has a residence to another place where he has a residence, he might not have needed to bring shit 'cause he has shit at both places. - Right, right. If he was flying to another house, that's a good point. My other question is why the fuck did he have an old bike? That doesn't make any sense. He just happened to have an old bike. Also, okay, so he said that the reason why he made it into a bike accident specifically, besides that he just happened to have an old bike in his car, is that they had just installed bike lanes in Central Park. And so a lot of bike accidents were happening and a lot of people were getting hurt. Now, from what I understand about bike lanes, the whole point is that you put them in there so that there are less accidents and less people get hurt. - Yeah. - Why would there be more accidents when they put the bike lanes in? - Maybe just people getting, like pedestrians getting hit 'cause they weren't yet used to accommodating the bike lanes. They were walking across the bike lanes and getting, I don't know. I mean, the bike lanes are really like separate from the walking paths, like pretty obvious in Central Park. Like it really did make a lot less injuries happen. - One of the great bike rides of my life happened in Central Park in those very bike lanes in the spring. It was like a perfect spring day in New York and it was just so beautiful. - Did you see that bear? - I did not, nor did I hit anybody. I had a, you know, it was a pleasant bike ride, but I don't know, man. I just think the RFK shit is just so unfathomably weird and there's a door. - Like if you had to guess how the bear died? - I think he shot it. - I think he shot it. - I think he shot it. I think he shot it and then I think he ran over it with a bike enough that you couldn't see the bullet. The bullet hole. - Yeah. - And a gun shot would have scared the mom away. It's loud enough. - Yeah, so he probably illegally shot it. He's a conservationist. I mean. - And also, I'd have to imagine he's saying it now exactly 10 years later because it's passed a statute of limitations. - Well, Andy got caught. - Yeah. Andy got caught. There's a picture of him with this dead bear, by the way, that was released today, just a couple hours ago, with his hands, like in the mouth of the dead bear, all fucking bloody. - Yeah, pretending it. - Well, he's pretending that the bear is biting him. - Yeah. - And he's got, but he's got like bare blood on his hand. I mean, it's just so bizarro, this behavior. And I gotta believe, like he's must be totally estranged from his family because the sort of shit that he is doing and saying and the kinds of revelations that are being made, these are grounds for an intervention. - I mean, like, so JFK's grandson, Jack Scholosberg, is his name. He's like, he's got the spirit of little Edie and then he's very funny, but he's done like a thousand take off. - Wait, this spirit of who? - Little Edie Beal. You've seen Grey Gardens, right? - No, I don't know what you're talking about. - You have to-- - I know Grey Gardens. It's like, I know like, it's like the two ladies living in the house and like-- - They're sisters of Jackie-O and they're totally not so. And like, they live in this like dilapidated mansion that's totally falling apart. - Oh, I didn't realize they were related to Jackie-O. - Yeah, there can be technically. And like, yeah. And so Jack Scholosberg, who like writes her vogue and it's like just like a handsome, funny guy on TikTok. - Is he gay? - Is he straight or gay? It's debatable, no one's really totally sure. - Oh, okay. - He gets like a little pretty on TikTok, but it's like, that's not totally clear. - He's charming. I see you on social media, a lot of girls have a crush on him or feel like he's like the safe crush, Kennedy or whatever. - Yeah, the secret is that like, women really just wanna dude with a big nose who gets a little fruity with it. (laughing) - I've got a big nose, but I am-- - You've got a little fruity with it? - I can't. - That's tough, see? - It's my failing. - So JFK's grandson, which I guess is like RFK junior's first cousin once removed or something like that. I'm not totally sure, but they're related. He's done like a thousand TikToks, just being like, I know this guy, he's my family. I've known him for a long time. Do not fucking vote for him. Like, trust me, like I know him better than you do. Like he's like begging people not to vote for him. This is Schlossberg, the fruity, the fruity charmer. - Yeah, exactly. And okay, wait, this is fucking weird. His sister, Tatiana, reported on the Dead Bear in Central Park 10 years ago before anyone knew it was RFK. - Like just-- - She broke the story in The New York Times. - She's a journalist. And she had no idea, probably, that it was her uncle. - Unrelated, no idea. - I mean, it's a small world. The Kennedy family is like this tragic, like they've had a lot of tragedy, right? There's a darkness on that family. And there's also like, I mean, Joe Kennedy, like the original, like the OG patriarch of that family was a questionable dude. Like he had questionable morality. - They all did, and do. Like it's not great. Have you heard about how RFK Jr. is doing some kind of fundraiser where the reward is that you get to go on a cruise with RFK Jr. and Cheryl Hines? - I wouldn't get on a fucking cruise ship anyway, but like with him, no way. Like I'm not-- - You would not catch me ever in my entire life on any vessel with a Kennedy period. - Yeah, yeah. - I wouldn't even be alone in a room with a Kennedy. Like I don't, like that shit's dangerous. - Yeah, like a lucky fundraiser. We'll get to go on a private jet with John F. - Or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Tom Cruise. - Oh my God. - Like I wouldn't even go on a roller coaster with a Kennedy. If I saw Kennedy was behind me in a roller coaster, I'd be like, let me the fuck off, I'm out. Like I'm not doing this. No, no, no. - Yeah. God, I was so sad when John John died. He was so handsome. I could not get over how handsome that guy was. - He really, he was handsome and he laid pipe. He really fucked a lot of women, that guy. - Did he? - And men. - Did he? - I mean, allegedly. - You think everybody's, you think everybody's gay? - He wrote in a memoir that he like shared a bed with his college roommate for years. - Well, he met a sad end. He met a sad end he did. And I feel like it's like. - He did his head exploded. - It's obvious, what? Oh, you mean John F. Kennedy, the president? - Yeah, yeah. - I was talking about his son who died in the playground. - Oh, okay. - His head might have exploded, but we were not sure. - Well, he was, yeah. I mean, just the poor bastard, but just didn't have, like why was he flying that night? It just didn't need to happen, you know? - I think a lot about Jackie O. 'Cause like after JFK was assassinated, she literally became a librarian. Like she was just like, I'm living a quiet life. This shit is fucked. Somebody assassinated my husband. I don't wanna do anything that could possibly make anybody think about me ever again. And she was a librarian for the rest of her fucking life. - Well, she worked as an editor too, like a books editor. - Yeah. - I mean, let's not. - She was an editor and then a librarian as she got older. I mean, she was at a high level, good job. She was smart, she like, whatever. But she was like, I'm out of politics and I'm gonna live a quiet life. - I don't blame her. - I know, I'd do the same. - I just can't. - I'd be like, I'm not a threat. - I just can't get over how nobody around RFK Jr. is like sitting him down. They are, is the thing. They are. The Kennedy family is sitting him down like, don't fucking do this. You're making the Kennedys look bad and he's just insane. - And they, but do they have proximity to him? I feel like they're all estranged. I feel like they're saying things on public, but they're not like actually like-- - Yeah. I think he's estranged from a lot of them. And I think that it's why he's not really listening. Like he doesn't care. Like even the Kennedys, he's not estranged from him. He's just like, well, fuck the family, I'm out. I think Cheryl Hines didn't even want him to run. I mean, this has not been good for Cheryl Hines. Let's put it down. - Certainly that's not it. - I mean, at best, she's seen as just enabling this, but it's also like, girl, like, what are you doing? Like, you know, be careful. Like that's how I feel about it. Like be careful. - He like, he played fucking Larry David's wife on television and she's married to someone who denied the Holocaust. - He denied the Holocaust? - Yeah. - And he's like anti, like what are, what are the things that he believes? He believes that vaccines are evil. - Yeah, anti-vaccine. He kind of thinks COVID is fake. Part of his brain was eaten with a worm, but that's, you know, another story. He, God, he's got so many crazy ass beliefs. Like, he like, he's when he's like red meat people, like just like, I only eat red meat and that's like healthy somehow. - Like liver king? - Yeah, yeah, some shit like that. Like he's, and he's like, yeah, like Holocaust denial. Like, I mean, all this weird animal shit, fucking dead dog, fucking dead bear. Like, he's just like fucked. He's a fucked human being. - And he's running for president. - He's like, he's like, he's fucked. - So of the three candidates, of the three candidates running for president, two of them are like just objectively twisted. - RFK in a way that I've like never even seen before. Like brand, like Trump, you know, we saw in 2016, I kind of know the kind of horrible that he is, but RFK, brand new, that could be that brand new. - This is why I think these guys are controlled by like foreign governments because it just degrades our whole society. - How could you have human beings and you're like, no human being would just be this crazy on their own. They have to be having a bad influence over them. But I think Occam's razor might be correct in the situation that they are simply bad people. - Yeah, but I mean, it's like one thing to be twisted and mentally ill and all this stuff. It's another thing to have like, you know. - He's got the repirces to be a deeply mentally old man who still gets to run for president. - I guess you're right. I mean, his name's Robert Kennedy Jr. I mean. - Exactly. - Well, I guess now is as good a time as any to ask you if you will be endorsing RFK Jr. for president. - I'm 100% yes, and in fact, I love RFK Jr. I think that he's gonna make a great president. He's gonna be fantastic when he gets some assassinated in some spectacular manner. I hope he kills a lot more bears. - Oh my God. Well. - To be clear, that's a joke. And you like would have to hold a gun to my head for me to vote for RFK Jr. And who I will be voting for is the worm that ate part of his brain. - Okay. You heard it here first. We're breaking news on Brad and Merritt for the culture. Merritt, it's good to talk to you. - Good to talk to you too, Brad. - This very special episode. And I'm sure we'll be learning more about the RFK Jr. bear incident in the days ahead. Maybe we'll talk about it some more. - Oh yes, we will keep you up to date. This is one of my favorite stories, so. - All right, well, we'll talk soon. Oh, and by the way, we should let people know we are off next week and then we'll return the week after that. - I know you're gonna miss us, but we'll be back. Don't worry. - All right, bye, everybody. - Bye-bye. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music)
