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Duration:: 35m
Broadcast on:: 25 Jul 2024
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[MUSIC PLAYING] It's the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. So KCP says that they might have gone just a bit too hard at the end of the season. How might they have played out things a little bit differently as the season went on? And y'all, we're joined, as you can see, by some very special guests. We're going to talk a lot about some Denver Nuggets basketball, including about Christian Brown, Calvin Booth's comments on KCP and Christian Brown. Is it going to be that easy of a transition, y'all? Y'all know what time it is. This is Lockdown Nuggets. Let's get it. [MUSIC PLAYING] You are Lockdown Nuggets, your daily Denver Nuggets podcast. Part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. What's going on, y'all? Welcome in to Lockdown Nuggets. This is your whole swipe of this, your team every day. Thank you so much for joining us yet again. Y'all, we've had some great content coming out this week already. So we got some great stuff ahead for you in this episode. A lot of stuff to talk about, a lot of stuff to tap into. Y'all, but you already know. Today's episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code LockdownNBA for $20 off. Your first purchase, terms, apply. Now, as you can see, usually Thursdays, it's just going to be me. But I just fell in my spirit, deep down in my spirit, that Denver Nuggets fans needed to hear a little bit more from some very up-and-coming newcomers on the scene that are already making great, and I mean great content on their own. Y'all, we have the one, the only, living, living, living legends already, grace and will. Y'all, welcome to the show. Thanks for having us, Leipa. Y'all, I'm not going to lie. So I have been thinking about this for a while now, and actually Matt had a BB2 of being bringing grace on. But when I saw y'all pop up on the timeline the first time, I was like, oh, yeah, I already know. We're going to have to do some content together. We need to get on the show. I think the people love y'all already. I think the kind of content you're making. And I remember when I first saw your first video, I was like, oh, that's kind of giving me some Harry Potter vibes a little bit. I like the show format. That feels good to me. Just nerdy vibes as much as possible. Yeah, it was funny when we started the pod. Well, and I quickly found out that we were both kind of English nerds. And so we liked the idea of a sort of Shakespearean kind of even vibe for the show. I love that. I love that. Well, look, we might have to do a separate literature vibe at some point, because I love talking literature and books. That's the right of my alley. But y'all, we got to tap into what's happening right now with KCP's comments, because I don't know if y'all saw. But KCP has some really interesting things to say. And again, if Denver nuggets fans, if you haven't seen it, you can go to my page, go to Swipercast page, and you can go ahead and look at it and be like, look, KCP has some of the things about to say how to end it's a season. At the end of the year, y'all-- everybody remember, all-star break-- I want to say they went like 23 and 5 or something like that, like some crazy record post-all-star. And they just really just tapped into it all the way. They were fighting for that number one seed. And they just looked like a team that was just about his business. But KCP gave us some insight that they think they might have exhausted themselves as they were pursuing the number one seed, which then, in turn, even affected the series versus the LA Lakers that they won 4-1. And KCP went as far as to say he thinks the Lakers could have beaten them. Yo, I'm not alive. I think the team thought they should have. Right. And for me, that is just like insanity, because one, they had already beaten 12 straight tops. So you get to that point, y'all, so will and in grace. When you heard those comments by KCP, what first came to mind for you? To me, it was just like happy that someone was that transparent about it, especially a player. I mean, KCP was like really eloquent with those comments. And we had heard that from Booth and Malone in the postseason pressure, too. So it wasn't necessarily surprising. But it was just good to get some confirmation on the inner workings of how that all ended up. But I was also just regretting like, OK, so you guys push for it, which was a debate that all fans were having and people associated with the team, pushing for the one seed, whether that was worthwhile, and then didn't get there. So if we did get there and you're aligned better with matchups and like home core, and we avoid the Lakers and the Wolves, maybe we go further in the playoffs? I'm not sure who knows what we do. If we match up with the Celtics and the Finals, I like Yogech in that matchup, too. But I was just like, dang, we didn't even get there. So yeah, no, when I first heard the comments, it was very like, oh, yeah, this is exactly what I felt at the time. That is when they were pushing for the one seed. The post-alster period that you're talking about, they absolutely looked dominant. But down the stretch of the season is when you saw that they were running out of gas. And I kept-- I was kind of joking at the time that the Thunder and the Wolves were sabotaging the Nuggets every time they dropped a game, because they kept leaving the one seed within reach so that the Nuggets weren't like shutting things down. Now, you know, I was always in favor of like, let's try to lock in a top three seed, like no reason to fall to four. And the Clippers were still sort of nipping on everyone's heels at that point. But once that was locked up, I really wanted them to shut it down. But again, it was just like, you know, it was like Lucy with the football was the one seed. And yeah, the Thunder and the Wolves just kept like, OK, it's like right there, it's close. And everyone talks about game-making with the Spurs, but really, like, I thought that they should have been shut down by that point, even. You know, the team was even talking down the stretch about how, you know, health was like the most important thing going into the playoffs. And I'm like, these guys are liars. Below the liar athletes are liars because they were playing and they were playing hard every game as much energy as they could give at that time. You could see them starting to burn out. So I just think that those comments from KCP re-iterate and re-emphasize something that everyone's been talking about since the end of the season, how gassed they were through the first round, where they beat the Lakers somehow. But they didn't look great. And then the World Series happened the way that it did. And it leaves me to believe that the team is going to be intentionally taking a different approach next season. Right. Yeah, and I think that at the time, you know, somebody, by the way, what's in the game podcast? Y'all, Grayson will shout out really just a few months old but already doing big numbers. So I appreciate y'all coming on again today. I think here's the thing with the end of the season stuff. I got the logic of chasing the one seed. And I think some of this, though, is going to be Malone's philosophy where we're going to be in a situation where we're going to be able to look at the team and say, all right, we're going to talk about this a little bit. But they got depth. They got players on the roster. They have a lot of different kinds of variations they can use with this. As opposed to last year, they just felt more limited in what they were going to do. It felt as if they were in a situation where they were looking at the starters or saying we're so young on the back end. With Jalen Pickett, Julian Strawter, Christian Brown, Peyton Watson, a bunch of youngins that they just didn't want to throw them into the lineup enough. But whereas this this year coming up, I think they're going to have to take a chance with that. But look, at the end of the year, shout out to Matt Morgan. He was the first one on this. He said that he thinks it's going to hurt them in the long run. I'm never telling them. I'm like, man, I don't know. It's just you kind of have to do it at this point. But we see the fifth seed made DNA finals. So it really ultimately didn't end up mattering all that much. And everything's about matchup. And I truly, Grace had they instead of won 57 games. If they would have won 51 games, and they would have had a basic six games the last couple of weeks where they just took everybody out and said, look, we're just going to sit. We're going to rest. We're not going to try to push forward. Do you feel like that would have had a difference on the outcome of the season? Maybe by the time they get to the Lakers series, to the Wolf series, and then into the finals, that a couple more weeks of rest would have helped them in the long run. I do. I do believe that because I think that despite the even the matchup issue that the Wolves present for the Nuggets, they were up 20 in the second half of the game seven, and they just couldn't keep it up. I think the 23 team was, in my mind, it was very matchup proof. I don't think there's any team in the league that could beat them. But even in their reduced capacity, I thought that they should have been the favorites to win the title. But they didn't have health. We had like, KCP banged up. We had obviously Jamal with the calf thing. And they didn't have the energy. And part of why they were, I think, even more gas down the stretch while pressing, then maybe they would have been is because Jamal was in and out of that lineup, which put more on everybody else. So they were pressing even more while trying to press for the one seed, not getting that rest they needed. So it was just a really-- I think it was complicated, and I get it. These guys are all competitors. That's why I talked about athletes and Malone, right? Everybody wants to win. And that's a great culture to have in this team. But I do think that sometimes these guys need to be put in a straight jacket and save from themselves a little bit because the goal is the championship. Like, they've already proven that they can be a one seed. They proved they could win games on the road in the regular season. They proved that they could win games on the road in the playoffs. So I don't think they should have been pressing for home court as much as they did. Right. 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And y'all, make sure, if you're on the YouTube side, make sure you like, share, and subscribe to video. That way we can continue to grow the YouTube community here at Locked On Nuggets. And if you're listening to this on the audio side, on Apple iTunes, give us a five-star review so we can bring more great people, like Will and Grace, onto the show. So y'all, let's just ask the bear question, because I've had a lot of conversations with a lot of different people. Some in the NBA, a lot of fans, some of my friends, do y'all think that the Denver Nuggets, based on the adjustments they made, the additions to the roster, even taking in account the KCP loss, do you think that this is a better overall team than it was last season, at this point? - I think it's tough to say that it is when you lose KCP and the starting lineup was one of the best starting thighs in the league when we won it all. But maybe you could say the approach might be more measured than it was in this last run, 'cause I like that KCP in his comments said they still saw themselves as a title contender and that they could still do it. I mean, we were top heavy, and it's not necessarily the most sustainable structure for a team competing for multiple titles. We saw that it was actually, with the championship run that window, where we were kind of resting for the one seed that may have helped us be at our like, you know, being able to flip that switch when it was not really a reality, we were gonna flip the switch last season. So I'm hoping that like with the depth on paper, with Sharich and Westbrook and the guys, like Straw, they're hopefully taking a leap that the plan that Booth has in place to kind of break KCP, even though like we just lost him for nothing, but the plan is we kind of like are sacrificing him to get some extra pieces to make sure our top four are in peak condition at the right time. We still have a chance to compete. I mean, it's Yo-Kitch and if Murray is playing like he was during the title run, we're still good and we have a chance. So I don't know that it's like better, but it's just like, it's a different approach, different kind of team. - Right. - Yeah, for me, I think, I think about it in two different ways, right? There's regular season and for the playoffs. I think for the regular season, we're about the same, right? We make those trade-offs like we'll just, just talked about where we kind of sacrifice easy peer who I think contributed a lot to why we were such a good defense last season, particularly in the regular season, which definitely helped carry us through some rough offensive stretches, that's for sure. For some more depth, maybe the bench minutes, the non-Yo-Kitch minutes are a little bit better because we can maybe blend lineups in ways that make a little bit more sense. I do think for the playoffs that we are a worse team though. And the reason that I say that is that right now, I'm not totally sure about where, if we, you know, Frussell Westbrook hasn't actually been signed yet, like we are still waiting this many weeks out for an official announcement for him to be on the roster, but I'm still not sure how he fits into a potential playoff rotation given his limitations. Like I just need to see how the team plans to use him before I can make that assessment. I do think that if they are able to figure out ways to keep on the floor, to figure out ways to have him play effectively next to particularly Jamal, because we know the playoffs or rotations get shortened and you need to make sure that all your guys can play together, right? Then I can comfortably say that we're about the same playoff teams. I do think we lose some shooting, but we gain an extra like more playable ball handler potentially, right? - Yeah. - But while I do think that they're a worse playoff team now, I do have, I think they have the potential to be a better playoff team if even one of Christian, Julian, or Peyton makes some kind of meaningful leap next season. And we can talk about what that would mean for any of them to make a meaningful leap that would contribute to a bigger playoff level impact. But as of right now, I feel like we are about the same and potentially a little bit worse as a playoff team. - Yeah, I really like that. And I'm a similar boat with this that for me, the playoffs have become about versatility in the NBA. I mean, you even look at the Boston Celtics this last year, they had four guaranteed ball handlers who could create a shot for themselves or other people. And that was like the key for the Nuggets. Bruce Brown, Jamal Murray, Aaron Gordon, Nikolea Yokich, you had players that all could do things for themselves and for their teammates, even Bruce Brown. Remember NBA Finals beating people out the dribble, doing an up and under underneath the rim or even being able to get into a little bit of a step back. Like that stuff matters. Like being able to throw dump all passes. And then for me, that's where the Russell Westbrook equation is in this, once he formally signs. Having Russ and Jamal be your lead ball handlers for me is gonna give them a lot more security. Now Russ is gonna have to obviously play within himself. He did that for large stresses of the year. He can obviously, I'm preparing everybody now. He's gonna turn the ball over sometimes. He's gonna take bad shots sometimes. It's gonna happen, but Russ is gonna compete. He's also an extremely intelligent player. And I think for the money he's gonna be making, he's gonna overshoot that contract about 10 times because he's gonna be playing a lot. And especially when Jamal is not in the lineup. Could he miss 23 games last year. So this team regular season, Grace, I'm with you. The playoffs, the versatility for me is gonna come down to Christian is I think gonna be about a half a step worse defender maybe than KCP because of the screen now, but he's really good on ball. He's really good at the rim. And so he's gonna offer some additional guard paint protection similar to Derek White. But the other side of this is, yo, can you make anything but a three-pointer? Like an above the break three. Can you hit a corner three? Can you hit a mid-range shot? Because even though I was watching the playoff from two years ago just yet a day watching KCP, KCP would get the ball from Joker, pump fake, one dribble into a spot, pull up. You know, and like Christian just doesn't have some of that technical stuff to his game. So he's really gonna have to be able to step into that. And, you know, I think this is a good point. Also talk about Calvin Booth's comments, y'all, but, you know, Calvin Booth talked about the idea when he did the press conference in the season that if they had to replace KCP with Christian, they're trusting in it because they look at the net rating stuff and net rating stuff says, it's really good. It might only be a hundred and some minutes, but it looks good. So therefore, we're gonna trust our process. And, you know, y'all brought up something both equally, really true. But I think on the other end of this, I like both of you expand here. What do you think a meaningful playoff level difference that there would have to be between Julian Stroulter and Peyton Watson's game? What would that have to be for you to look at the team and to play off and say, all right, this is a more viable team. Man, Julian's gonna have to be more consistent with his shot making across the whole season and be healthy. I mean, saw it in Summer League, thankfully. It's looking pretty good. He got injured and even talked about how that time off really helped him just like taking the game more. So he's got to get that shot going 'cause he's a scorer. Like, and he can make plays on defense. Like we saw it even when he was injured last year. So I'm excited just for him defensively, even if it's not the best on ball defense. And then so it's kind of like the opposite with Peyton where it's like, he needs to up that scoring level 'cause if I'm thinking about him on the bench with Russ potentially and if he's not able to space as much, a little concern for those types of lineups, but I'm glad to have his defensive playmaking with Russ, who also hustles on defense, not like he's zero on D, but P-Watt's gonna have to like bring that and not be a liability in terms of fit with Russ. Just to come in and play with those ball handlers. So that like the spacing and everything works and we can be cutting and passing like we want to be 'cause we want to be evolving stylistically and not just be like running pick and rolls with the L-gets with these ball handlers. - Yeah, no, I agree. I like that you made the distinction about what it would mean for them to make a meaningful leap to be playoff contributors. Because I think regular season, like I agree with Will, like I just want to see consistency in Julian's shot. I also want to see more consistency in Peyton's shot. Like that's what I think he needs to bring for the playoff rotation. You know, let's try not to airball misses. You know, just get a little bit more comfortable with that. Regular season, I actually want to see more ball handling from Peyton and Julian. We already saw in summer league, they were trying to give Julian a few more reps at that. We saw some, you know, interesting flashes of him driving closeouts and beating his man off the dribble and some slashing and it'll be interesting to see if that is able to translate over during the season. But honestly, in terms of just the all-around game, like what I've seen from Julian and what he can do, I actually feel pretty comfortable that as long as he can stay healthy, stay consistent, stay on the floor and just do what he's been doing, that would be enough to meaningfully improve the playoff rotation just because if he is consistent in his shot, then he becomes a meaningful spacer if literally nothing else and he's pretty solid in other areas, you know, even if he's not elite at any, you know, one thing besides the shooting. And then yeah, with Peyton, it's the shot because that'll, I think Peyton has so much defensive value that if he can improve in driving closeouts in corner three point shooting in any aspect of his offensive game to keep him on the floor, that is a massive, massively meaningful leap for the playoff rotation just because of how valuable he is defensively, both on and off the ball, just really improves the versatility of any lineup that he's in defensively in a way that could be like a game changer for the lineup, for the playoffs. - Yeah, we're gonna finish this part of the conversation on the other side and then we're gonna get to some lineups too that I think would be really fun and might offer some different looks for the different nuggets this year. We'll talk about all that more here. Lockdown nuggets. - You know, we love talking stats here at Lockdown and here's one that's super simple to remember. 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We're gonna go into the draft at 30 and get Watson. We're gonna go into the draft at 29 and get Strother. We're gonna go into the draft and get the Ron Holmes of 22 who obviously tore his Achilles first game in the summer league. But that's it. Like that is his philosophy. Say we're gonna go young, the CBA demands it. We're gonna stay out of the second apron and we're gonna develop around the players that we have now. But I think some of this comes down to if Peyton, Julian, and Christian in the year three and three and two don't make sizable leaps, then what were we doing? I mean, at that point, what is the point of the philosophy? Because if you're saying we're gonna invest in young, athletic, one scoring guard, one two way on ball defending guard in corner three points specialist, hopefully at some point in time in his career. And then one, hey, average three points a game in UCLA but that do looks like he can be an all NBA level defender. Let's get him on the team. And he turns into that but then offensively, he just needs to take leaves I think in half court as a mid-range shooter, which he did at dresser last year, finishing plays as a quarter three point shooter. And in transition, he can be an absolute nightmare because of how athletic he is. And he was very good at that last year. But if he makes improvements there, then you got something. But this is for me, the gamble, the dice rolling was all on the youth movement because that was the way they can internally improve. So if they don't, Grace, what were we doing? I mean, like, what are we doing if they don't? Like, what's the, yeah. - So I actually think that Kalam Booth's strategy in principle is very smart. Like, I think everybody kind of saw the vision of like, let's draft these late first round guys and hope we can get sort of near lottery value. And like, to me, that means like, they're definitely NBA rotation players. And potentially one of them is gonna make enough of a leap to be a really high impact guy in the playoffs. Like delivering six starter level value in that sense. I think the way that we've sort of seen the pitfalls is when we have some of these second round picks also on the roster. And I think that having just some kind of cushion, if we don't get the kind of leap from one of the three of Christian, Peyton, Julian, that we want again in delivering that like six starter level value by this point is like, it just would have been nice to have somebody in one of those other roster spots in terms of like a veteran who could deliver at least guaranteed six to seventh man consistency and value. One of the things that I thought would happen this summer if KCP left is that there would be some kind of consolidation trade made to reduce the youth on the roster by a little bit to say upgrade the backup point guard spot. I do think that Russ Wozbrooke is an upgrade, but it's not to the degree of like, I know people were talking about something like, you know, like a Dennis Schroeder or like a Bogdan Bogdanovich type, right? Like that's what I'm talking about in terms of like the backup plan. And that would have made me feel better about like, even if one of those three guys isn't ready to make that third year leap, we have seen like, they look like NBA rotation players at least in a regular season context. Julian I think was basically that before he had his knee injury, but he didn't make the playoff rotation. I think that the injury, you know, derailed that. And you know, Peyton has his offensive limitations as of last season. We haven't seen him be able to make a playoff rotation. Christian is a, we don't know if you can play in every series guy right now through two playoff runs, right? We saw him get benched and the Laker series actually in both of his first few years. So we don't know that we have that. When you're talking about a six starter, that's somebody that you know can play in every series. And we don't know that we have that on this roster. And so that is where it becomes an indictment of going too far in on the strategy because we don't have room to bring in another person that could fill that spot of you can be a six starter that will play in every series. Like we just don't know that we have that on this roster. And now with Christian moving into the starting lineup, we don't know that we have five players that can play in every playoff series. - And Grace, to that point, you mentioned about upgrading that backup spot. Well, again, that's where I think the philosophy of trading Reggie Jackson plus three seconds kind of messes that up where it's like, okay, well, you have a tradable contract in Reggie, which is why we originally thought you had given player option. And then you have an additional with Zeke Noggi's contract and then you would have three seconds and a first. So you wanted to go make a move because you're under, that's why you're under the second apron to be able to consolidate some of that. But then they didn't end up doing that. So that was such a salient point because I think now we're trying to get exactly what the full vision is of what you're trying to do. - Yeah, 'cause it's not even just like going for these rookie scale contracts, trying to get rotation players. It's now we're losing the core of the starting five or one of the core starting five from the championship. And then we're trying to promote the whole hierarchy, Christian Brown's now starting, which maybe was a little earlier than I saw when this plan was laid out. And he's like, 'cause Calvin Booth believes in this wholeheartedly, these are some drastic decisions with like the red moving off Reggie. So hastily, like in costly and promoting Christian Brown to a starter already. But he's kind of like getting some vets too, like Sharich and Westbrook. So it seems like he's a little bit aware of like that we actually need some plan Bs for this whole operation. So I'm hoping that pays off because if it doesn't, like we may have to lose one of these starters in a trade to kind of retool. And I don't want to think about that 'cause I love all these dudes. But you got to maximize Joe Kitch's window, which they've said they're committed to, but it's just like we still haven't seen how this goes with this new CBA in this plan. Calvin's either gonna look like a genius for kind of moving off KCP and getting close to replicating his value with Christian on defense and somewhat on offense. I don't think it needs to be as high of a level as case to be on offense to still win a championship, but he still got to be like on par with where he was last year and a little bit better. - Yeah, I'll see the thing about what I, but I think most about KCP is the Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, match of the LeBron, AD match. Just remember, they were straight up putting KCP on LeBron at the end of the game in the first round. And then they were putting, you know, A.G. on Anthony Davis at times and then putting Yogeh on Rui. Now with Christian in some way, that actually becomes more viable just because he's such a bigger guard. And so some of that stuff is gonna work really well. And I think that's why when people say, "Oh, defensively." Well, defensively, Christian is actually really good. Like he's so strong and athletic. Like when he played in Ant, you could just see a difference between him and KCP. But on the other end of this, finishing those plays and then, you know, KCP didn't shoot well in the playoffs, but making sure you're finishing some of those open three-point opportunities you're gonna have is gonna be huge, y'all. But y'all, can you give us a little bit of end? So, you know, you all started your podcast, you know, really just a couple months ago. Things seem to be going really well. Can you give us some insight on what made you start the podcast and some stuff that is gonna be coming out on your end in the future? - Yeah, I'll just say really quickly that Grace and I, like our origins are from Nugget's Twitter. So we're active members on Nugget's Twitter. Like where, you know, we talk with Swipe-a and even Matt sometimes. And we're just huge Nugget fans. We love talking about the Nuggets and trying to learn as much about the game as possible, which is kind of where the name comes from. What's in a game? Just asking questions, going through it, breaking it down, trying to give some clips. And I really love Grace and her insight that she brings. She's a super smart fan. - She loves me. - She, she brings, I love her basketball commentary and all that. She's awesome. So please follow her and basically I just asked her to start up this podcast 'cause she provides a lot of good insight and she's really fun to listen to. - Yeah, I'm really excited for what we have coming down the pipeline. The Olympics are starting actually this weekend and we have our Olympic preview coming up. We're gonna be covering the games, talking a lot about our guys playing in the Olympics with Nugget and Jamal representing Team Serbia and Team Canada. As we get deeper into the depths of the off season, we might get into some philosophical discussions about basketball. We'll do some fun stuff with team tears and rankings and all that fun stuff that everybody loves when there's no actual basketball going on. But yeah, I've been really excited about how the off-season content train has been rolling. There's a lot to talk about. There's one of the reasons that the NBA is such a fun league to cover. - Yeah, that's y'all. Well, look, that's gonna do 'em for lockdown nuggets. Make sure you go to the What's in a Game YouTube channel and subscribe. Make sure you find them on Twitter. Again, Will D. Jones and Aaron Burr 27. And y'all, that's gonna do 'em for lockdown nuggets. I'll see y'all on the other side. - A Prime members, you can listen to this lockdown podcast ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. (upbeat music)