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#TBR231 - The King of Indie Podcasting

Last year Beans and his cousin Beau guested on B Word's podcast Unfiltered Discussions to share their story of how they uncovered the missing branch in the family tree. Since then we knew we had to return the favour and get B-Word on to share his Podcasting journey. He began his journey with Bleach Bros a legendary show which, like Tall Boy Radio, bounced around and had a different topic each week... and if you don't know where they got their name, tune in to this episode - it cracked us up! His Unfiltered Discussions is a fantastic podcast where he discusses sensitive issues each week with his guest... he also is one quarter of the Raunchy Regret podcast, which is something different again. It was great to hear his take on Indie Podcasting as he tears it up with his B Word Media Group which has a number of other podcasts... and all in between he has great guests on Unfiltered Discussions like Burt Ward. Grab yourself a listen to his podcast here :

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The opening music is "London Bayou" by Oscar Albis Rogrigues and the closing music is "BDS" by Lewis Pickford.

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Duration:: 1h 11m
Broadcast on:: 28 Jun 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

[Music] Welcome back to episode 231 of the Tallboy Radio podcast. And as we always say, who knows where it goes when the beer flows? Well, I'll tell you where it's flowing tonight all the way to the US of a one of our favorite places. No gas, no Dave tonight, but you'll be pleased to know I have a host, a co-host with me who is familiar to you all. Bo, do you want to say hello? Hey everybody. Hey, thanks for having me on. This is the first time out of all these years that you've let me co-host. Yeah. Why did it take so long? I don't know. It might be the last time that let's go. By the way, that's a good shirt you have on. Very nice. I don't know, whiskey helps, and there's never a truest statement that has been saved. So, we have Bo co-hosting and in the guest chat tonight, we have Brian. Do you want to say hello and tell us a little bit about yourself and what it is that you do, dude? Yeah, absolutely. Well, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you're located. I'm Brian. I'm the host of Unfiltered Discussions. I'm also one of the quartet of the Raunchy Regret podcast and the founder of B-Word Media Group. So, I'm just here doing things, and it's a pleasure to be with both of you gentlemen. It's been, gosh, it's been quite a while since I've seen both of you on camera together. So, yeah, I'm excited to get into it tonight. Indeed. Yeah. So, as B-Word says, we guessed it on unfiltered discussions. I think in July of last year, I came out shortly after that. It was absolutely chaotic because I've got my time in strong, and we had a family party here, and my daughter and her rather recalcitrant cousin kept breaking into the room and just still been proceeding. So, they have been pushed out of the way tonight. They're up in bed, and hopefully, we'll be making any appearances, but you never know with those two. So, yeah, do you want to tell us then, start off by telling us a little bit about Unfiltered Discussions. Obviously, myself and Bo, familiar with it, is from a guest point of view, but I'd like to hear from your point of view how you got it started and what the idea behind it was. Yeah, absolutely. If I can actually take it just a little bit before that, originally, I had a podcast called Bleached Bros Podcast with my buddy Jake, and we had a blast doing that podcast. It was such a fun time, and he ended up doing a side podcast called the "Hateful Gnomes" music hut with Gnome from the dad's on Dayquil, and they kind of got together and they did this music podcast, and there's a lot of success with that, and it's still a very successful podcast, but I was more of the producer of that podcast, and I had no intentions of starting anything on my own. And a friend of mine called me and said, "Hey, I want to talk with you. She's a close friend of mine. I want to talk with you because her dad had died, and she was trying to work through some stuff." And I said, "Well, you know," I said, "Podcasting is therapeutic for me, so I have a blast podcasting. I can get out my humor, get out my anger, get out anything that I'm going through." I said, "Why don't we just sit down and have a conversation? We'll record it, and then if it's something that you like, then maybe I'll find a platform or something to release it on." And so the first episode of Unfiltered Discussions was recorded. We spent about an hour and a half in my kitchen talking about the loss of her dad and the impact that it had on her emotionally, and some struggles that she had had. And by the time it was all done, I thought, "Wow, that was pretty cool." And she goes, "You have a knack for interviewing people. You have to do something with this." And so I kind of chewed on it for a minute, and I started throwing around some names of the podcast. And as you know, trying to come up with a podcast name isn't always the easiest thing to do. So the word that I centered on was unfiltered, but there's other podcasts out there, the unfiltered podcast. You've got other political podcasts that are titled unfiltered. You've got an unfiltered podcast network. I really wanted to do something different, and the one thing that I didn't see was unfiltered discussions. And I thought that unfiltered discussions was a good topic, because at the end of the day, all I'm doing is I'm having a conversation with somebody. They could be a good friend, a contact, a network person. And we're just having an unfiltered raw conversation. And so that's the birth of that. And where unfiltered discussions started was trying to not be a trauma dump. I don't want to call it that, but it wasn't necessarily something that was guided in any way. And a lot of the guests that I were getting had trauma that they really wanted to talk about. And that was great. We had a lot of great conversations about people's trauma, a lot of conversations about very noteworthy things in people's lives. But as a host, it's hard to hear trauma all the time. And you two were actually one of the first guests that I had actually had that didn't talk about trauma. It actually talked about something rather inspirational, where you guys found each other. And through Adams or Bean's quest, it forced you to acknowledge each other. And so far, there's no regrets on that. So that's a pretty cool topic. But since I've been able to have some pretty phenomenal guests. And while we still talk about trauma, while we still talk about things that are pretty notable in people's lives, I've been able to talk with authors. I've been able to talk with musicians. I've been able to talk with notable attorneys. And most recently, this week, the episode won't come out until later July. But I was able to have one of my childhood icons, Burt Ward, the original Robin from Batman and Robin, or Batman, I should say, the 1960s show on unfiltered discussions. And man, did I get a good chance to fanboy out? So that's what unfiltered discussions is. And I'm loving everything about it. It's my passion project. It's the one that I think of every other podcast where to die. This is the one that I'm going to focus on. That's cool. That is cool. Well, that episode that we'll get we'll get to Burt Ward in a minute, don't you worry? Because I want to hear a little bit about that. But that episode that we guessed it on boat, you know, we do like sharing that story a little bit, don't we? Yeah, you actually, you know, when people hear it, they say it comes out of a movie, like a lot of it, right? So, and that's not who we are. We're not everything that happened actually happened the way it did. And that's why I told beans. I said, you know, you really, you really need to write a book. He's a hell of a storyteller anyways. And it's not like this book is going to make us, you know, millionaires or anything like that. It's not about that. It's just about putting our story into a book. I would love to be able to have a copy of that book and just kind of keep it in our family like that, you know. So, but to ask you, Brian, about your about unfiltered discussions, you talk about a lot of different subjects, right? And it doesn't sound like anything's off the table. No, like there's no there's nothing taboo. How do you deal with that sometimes? So, I mean, I'm sure there's very tough times. If someone comes to me with something sometimes and it's very tough, the only thing I could say to somebody is I'm sorry, you know, because you really, unless you've been there, you don't understand. So, how do you deal with that? How do you deal with that when you're getting into those tough discussions sometimes? That's a great question. One of the things that happened when I started unfiltered discussions, and I started talking with people about what the premise of the show would be, they really said, are you sure you want to do this? Because you're going to talk about a lot of deep things with people. And I kind of relate it to a therapist in a way where a therapist is kind of hearing, you know, some some of the deep dark secrets of people's lives and dealing with the skeletons in the closet. And I think it's harder for me if I'm if I'm hearing it from somebody who's close to me than it is from somebody who maybe I maybe I know but maybe I'm not that close to. So again, to go back to the very first episode where I was listening to my friend Nicole talk about the loss of her dad, I loved her dad. Her dad, I've always referred to him as John Wayne. While he wasn't John Wayne, he always had the mannerisms of John Wayne. He was that stoic person, but he was he was not without the ability to cry when needed. I mean, he was just a really good guy. And I remember being at his funeral, and my god daughter, which is Nicole's daughter, you know, she she lost her emotions. She was she was crying. And I just grabbed her and held her in my chest. And she just I mean, my my dress shirt was soaked. I mean, she had just cried. So to listen to certain things like that, like that first episode, it was tough. It was really tough because I have a lot of empathy for that. But I've also gone through that journey with her. Another good friend of mine talked about the struggles that he had with child custody. And that's very familiar to me because I've gone through a divorce and I've gone through child custody battles. And I've also grew I also grew up with this guy. This guy was a younger brother of one of one of my good friends growing up. And he he and I had were able to share a lot about child custody issues and relationship issues throughout his time going through it. And I think if any of us have ever been through a divorce or child custody, we can understand that there's a lot of emotion that goes through that. But at the end of his episode, he actually talked about the decision to sign off the rights of being a parent to the child. And I have to be honest, that one broke me that like I cried during the episode. Obviously, it's cut out because, you know, I've got to come across as some sort of persona, right? But I I cried during the editing. And then I also cried after I listened to it. And so to answer your question more directly, there are things that do affect me. I am human. I am normal, at least normalish. And I do feel those feelings. But I think the I think my motive is is that unlike a therapist, I don't necessarily have to deal with it after I hear it the one time per se. I mean, with a close friend, I might hear it a little bit more. But with somebody who I'm hearing something about in their in their story in their testimonial, I also like to focus on the positive. So how did you overcome? You know, what what would be something that you would tell somebody who is dealing with something of something that you dealt with? One one instance actually revealed things about me that I didn't wasn't aware that were tender areas. And I had a friend of my name Shiree on who had talked about her domestic violence relationship. That one was pretty significant. But when I was young, I also dealt with domestic violence. And when I going through that episode, and then even after the episode, I realized I don't know that I've truly healed from that domestic violence stuff, right? So it is it is something that that does have an impact on me. But the way that I deal with it is I have I deal with it in an episode, and then I'm kind of hands off from there. And what I what my goal is is to make whoever story whatever story that they have to tell respectful to them. I don't want to filter it. Hence the word unfiltered. I don't want to guide it into a way that I want to either beautify it or communicate it in a different way. And after it's done, I want them to look back on it and say, wow, I feel a lot better. And as long as those three things can can exist in the same world, then I'm fine. Then I don't have a problem with it. Right. Well, I will tell you just just from the time that I spoke with you, very easy to speak with you. Thank you. And I think that is the that's the point that I think everybody comes across. It's hard to gain someone's trust. I work at a I work at a at a veteran's administration. And when I see the veterans come in and we tell and we talk sometimes it's very hard to gain their trust. But since I was in the military, it's a little easier for you. Something is natural about the whole conversation of I'm not going to be judged by talking to him. And you know, he's listening and everything that you're saying just really seems is genuine. So it's easier, I think, to get somebody online and just let them speak away. How do you feel about that beans? A hundred percent, you know, like, you know, I joked about Matilda and Noah burst it into the room all the time. Didn't phase a guy. Do you know what I mean? He still was you focused in on our story. Interested. You know, you know, I thought you were engaged and interested in it. And, you know, from a perspective, we like to say if you joke the start, we love sharing that story. But, you know, we love sharing people who like to hear it. And I felt on that occasion, you did. And like, you know, it we were looking at getting you on the podcast at some point, just because I want to hear your journey. I want to hear about bleach, but I just want to hear a little bit later how it felt wrapping that up. But in terms of info on thought of discussions, like you say, it's difficult to get a name. And that is a great name. And that's one thing that we sort of suffer with a little bit with Turbo Radio. We wanted a name that meant nothing, but it was basically three guys at the time, me, the guys, Andy, sitting down, having a beer and talking about stuff. So we were sitting down there with a tall boy, and we're going to put it out there to his radio. That was literally the logic behind it. But it is a bit of a silly nonsensical name. So when we do do episodes, which are a little bit more curious than we have done them, you know, we did one about a guy who was murdered around here, 32, 33 years ago, that's still unsolved. And we put it out there, and we've shared it a few times. It's got a lot of lessons, thankfully. And whether it will make a difference, we don't know, but it would be nice to think that maybe you'll jog somebody's memory. But one thing it did do, we got an email off the daughter of the guy who was murdered just saying, thank you for sharing the story. You know, Stanford's a police have sort of washed their hands with it. We really, really appreciate you guys taking the time and actually putting out a thoughtful episode. So that one was a nice one. And then one that we did just recently, we did an episode called Tough to Talk, which is a charity for men's mental health, and it tried to prevent suicide. And strangely enough, it was a lady who came on and spoke and named Aaron. But you know, we sort of said, why are you focusing on men's mental health? And it's like, I've got sons. My sons are going to come in this world. And we know the stigma with men and not being able to talk about this. So yeah, we had a fantastic episode with her. And then like you say, the stuff that sort of hits you, me and Dave got invited to the book launch. So we went to the book launch, not really knowing what we were going to expect. And Steve Whittle, the guy who wrote the book, put the book together, is man who talked about his own struggles. And the times he's tried to take his life and the people that saved his life, many of them were in that room that night. One of them stood up and talked afterwards and how what she'd done to help him. Then we had a lady who stood up and talked about how her husband had taken her in life. And I tell you what, that was a very, very difficult one to listen to. And then we had a guy who was working in Thames Valley Police, big guy, six foot eight, built like a brick shit house. And he turned out, and he was talking and he was getting emotional about the case that had affected him. He'd always been very dismissive of it. And yeah, Dave and I both came away from that. And we, it was such an emotionally charged event that after that, we sort of said, you know, we like to do this stuff with Torbo Radio, but a little bit inspired by what you've done with unfolded discussions that Dave and I are working on a side project at the moment. We can't say too much about it. Doesn't have a name. Don't know what it's going to look like. But we're working with Torbo, one of the guys that we've met on a schmoozing that we did that night more Dave than me. That's not really my cup of tea. And yeah, we're going to be pointing something out there where hopefully we can make a bit of a difference. Because I don't, I don't, I'll be interested. What is your goal within photo discussion with us? Ultimately, we'd like to do something eventually that will make a difference. We're very aware. Torbo Radio ain't going to be that project. What is your goal with it? Does that have interest? You know, I have some short term goals with unfiltered discussions, and then I have some long term goals with unfiltered discussions. I think in the short term, so I do break it out into seasons. And that's to kind of go back to the original question, like, how do I deal with it? I take six weeks off and I take six weeks off. Like it is just, it is my time to disconnect from it. And, you know, during that time, I mean, that'll send some emails and I'll, they'll do some scheduling and stuff. But, but it is my time to just disconnect because having another podcast project that I'm in, and then of course being in the podcast network, I guess, you know, I'm involved in a lot of different podcasts, whether it be in an administrative way, whether it be in a creative way, different things like that. So being able to take the time off from unfiltered discussions gives me an opportunity to disconnect and really refocus. So in that, however, in season one and season two of unfiltered discussions, I didn't include video. You know, most of us, when we started out, we were an audio podcast and, you know, it's a lot easier with audio because you don't see the looks on people's faces. You don't see the cues that are going across on video. You don't have to worry about, you know, cutting somebody out if they're flipping off a middle finger at you while you're trying to, you know, tell a joke or something, right? So, but with video, in season three, I started video clips. And one of the things that I found with video clips is that I have a lot more engagement on my episodes. I have yet to do like YouTube or full length videos, but that's a short-term goal of mine. I need to get more comfortable with that. I think the expansion into YouTube is probably going to be the bigger milestone in the short term. I don't know that it'll be in the next season, but it'll be soon. And once I get past that, I think the goal would be is just to have a number of different markets that that's available to. So whether it be YouTube, whether it be uploading the full episodes on Facebook or even, you know, X or Twitter, whatever we're calling it now, being able to have a reach to people who might not just want audio. I know for my family, they want to support my journey, but a lot of them aren't just audio listeners. They'll sit down, they'll watch the program, but they're not audio listeners. So I think that that's the short-term goal. Long-term goal for me, I would really like to see that this be one of the premier interview shows, whether it is talking to somebody of the likes of Burt Ward or somebody of the likes of my friend Nikki who was my first guest. I think that having this platform to discuss something that's so important to someone, and then for me to be delicate and respectful with their topic, I think that that's universally accepted from people who are a potential audience member. And then where that goes from there, I don't know. But I would like to see that this has a following. I would like to see that people engage with it. And I would like to see that there's a video option that's not such of a pain in the ass to try to edit that I can share with the world. So I think those would be the goals for the short-term, for sure, short and long-term. Cool. Well, the thing is with video. And when we've done the same thing, as is an audio podcast, yes, we do do videos for each episode, but it literally is just this. It's completely an edit. And this occasion, three guys having a conversation, it will be on YouTube tomorrow, it'll be on Facebook and Twitter. But it is just that, you know, we don't get a lot of video engagement because we don't do a video podcast. It is us recording an audio podcast, and then we'll put the video out there. This is my product and it's available. It's really about recording the audio. But we've mentioned it here, dude. So, Bo, Bo, who's your favorite Batman? My favorite Batman. I have to say, and there's no right answer here, or there might be, Michael Keaton is my favorite. Okay, yeah, there's no right answer, but there's a few wrong ones. George Clooney. That's a wrong one. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm okay with Michael Keaton. He's a man from Pittsburgh. I'm okay with that, dude. Absolutely. So, I mean, for me, Adam West, but there is absolutely no debate in terms of who's the best Robin if that let's be honest. Yeah, there's only one. There's really a one. Yeah. 100% 100%. Tell us a little bit. We chatted a little bit before we got going. Tell us a little bit about that. That's really impressive. That's an accolade to have on the CV interview in Birdwalk. Yeah, that was pretty cool. But I do want to circle back. My favorite Batman has been Affleck, and so both of you are wrong. I'm just going to say that right now. I will say that Adam West was a phenomenal Batman. The first Batman that I was introduced to live action, Michael Keaton was the next one. Christian Bale did a bang up job. You notice I skipped over two of them. And then Ben Affleck, I think, was the most comic book accurate. So, that's why I say that. But from a visual detail, I really enjoyed his performance. You're right. Burt Ward was the only Robin that really matters at this point, right? Because we had the one guy in Batman and Robin or Batman forever. I always forget his name. And then we had Joseph Gordon Levitt, quasi B Robin, and one of the Christian Bale ones. And Burt Ward was incredible. I'm not going to lie. He carried on the persona before we hit the record button. It was a hello citizen. And I just loved it, right? And he embodied everything that Dick Grayson was in the 1960s Batman. The purpose of why he goes on the podcast is really to promote his life's work. And his life's work, he says is gentle giants, dog and cat food. And it's a really great product when you think about it, because he doesn't use any genetically modified foods. He works with ingredient manufacturers to get this together. He's got great Danes that are living 25 to 30 years. And that's unheard of. Great Danes are supposed to die in six. So he's doing some things out there. So that was the purpose of him coming on. But for 40 minutes, we went back and forth on Batman. And we talked a lot about his relationship with Adam West and his interview process. And we talked about what it was like to be on set. And if you know anything about Burt Ward, you know, he's a prodigy. I mean, he was a professionalized skater as a child. He could read 30, I think it was 30,000 words with full retention. I doubt that that was permanent. But there was some magnificent thing that I'm not coming off the top of my head with. You know, his father was a real estate salesman in LA. And he was selling a house to a television producer. And Burt Ward just went up without fear and said, Hey, you know, do you think I'd have something available? And that turned into Robin. He auditioned for Robin. And he said that the script did not have Batman, did not have Robin, did not have any of that stuff. And even if it would have, he wouldn't have known who the characters were because he was unfamiliar with the product. The script had Dick and it had Bruce. And so he actually auditioned with Adam West and that bond was created then. And I do not think, you know, when you when you talk about actors who have chemistry, maybe or maybe not, they have a friendship, right? I believe that these two had a friendship until the day that Adam West died. And you can definitely tell in the stories that will come out later in July that Adam or that that Burt loved Adam. And I believe that Adam loved Burt. And it was just, it was a great experience for me to be able to showcase this person's career. Obviously, talk about the thing that's most important to Burt. But then also to share my fandom and really dissect that, you know, from from a fan. And I think that I hope that when the episode comes out, that it'll do the audience justice because I really tried to focus on some of those audience questions that they would want to know, especially having a fandom of the product. But he was amazing. He was amazing. He was absolutely outstanding. I wouldn't. There's no bad word that I will say about it. I had such a blast. I wore a Batman shirt on the show just because the clips that I edited turned out great. Those will come out the week of the episode. Ultimately, you know, it's a it's a phenomenal. It's a phenomenal thing. And it's definitely one of those things that I'll look back on fondly for the for the remainder of my life here. I mean, that's epic, isn't it? By the way, that's for me, that's Americana. You know, I was there. I loved it. And and and what's crazy is you mental, you mentioned a general giant, said dog food, cat food. I bought some for my for my dog in cat. I had no idea who's involved in it, but I said, why is there like comic strips on the bag? Yeah, the whole bag is comic strips. Yeah, and pow. Boom. And I was like, it's cool. You know, it's like, it's like retro. That's where I thought. I had no idea. And now it makes so much sense that he's involved in all that. It's crazy. Yeah. And he's got a heck of a story about how that started. It started 30 years ago this year. And he and his wife, you know, great Danes are where his passion, he wanted a great Dane and for his daughter. And when you go to an animal rescue, great Danes aren't typically the ones that get adopted. True. And so more often than not, they're the ones that get euthanized. And he says, not on my watch, dear citizen. And he put it into use. So yeah, he's, he's an amazing guy, an absolute amazing guy. And you know, they say, don't meet your heroes. I'd, I'd suggest that you meet Burt Ward. He's, he's amazing. He was just phenomenal. I thoroughly enjoyed everything about the interview. Well, I know right now, I know I want to go back just because I know Burt Ward's involved in all that. I want to go back and I'm going to buy more of that dog food. I know that. So yeah, I'm going to, I'll support it as much as I can. Now that I have, I have five dogs out here, two goats, 11 chickens and seven cats, we'll make it work. There you go. There you go. He's got some business there. Yeah. I mean, first of all, what a worthy cause to get involved with. Well, do you think it's a shame that it takes somebody to do something like that because the otter shite that they must put in the other stuff that is readily available, you know, is there's something we used to say in the UK growing up like I did in the, in the 70s and 80s. There was always white dog turds in parks. It was a joke. You don't see them anymore. And it's literally because there was that much chalk and stuff in the food that the turd would talk to and why once they sort of passed it. And it's absolutely shocking. We laugh and joke about it now. But when you think about it, you're feeling that's what you call a man's best friend. It's easy. Yeah, exactly. And with my dog, I mean, my dog's my buddy. He's been around 13 years now or 12 or 13 years. If something happened to him, I mean, I'd be devastated. He's a member of the family, you know, and so to be able to change his diet and treat him differently is a gift to him. But it's something that I'm, that I look at now and go, wow, you know, we're, society is pushed by a lot of marketing, right? So they tell you what you should eat. They tell you what you should eat. They tell you what medicine you should have. They tell you everything. I tell you what political candidates you should vote for. And the media, I think, was, was generated for a positive thing, but it's become overdone. You know, it's, it's, it's, the motive now is money. And I think the news was better when money didn't, when money wasn't a factor, I think that life was better when, when money wasn't nearly as important as it is today. So, but, but to go back to dogs or cats, even, yeah, if you're given, if you're feeding them good food, they're going to perform well, and they're going to do things for you for the rest of their life, at least. So, absolutely. So you mentioned it there a little bit in terms of the media, we might touch on elections and politicians a little bit. I've been interested maybe to get your guys taken what's going on in the US. Obviously, we're focusing more on what's going on. Be careful. Knowing right now, you know, we have our own problems here in the UK, trust me, you know, we've got another one about worrying about what's going on over the pond there. But like you say, in terms of media and money, that's what it talks. It's a message that's been put out there, you know, the news isn't the news anymore. It's perpetrated that way, but it's told from a perspective and it's a perspective based on who's paying the bills. So, we're a part of the media in some small way in terms of creating a podcast, aren't we? Okay. So, is that where it should be? Is that where it's at, that indie podcasting? We aren't motivated by money. I don't know about you, but I certainly don't make any out of this and it's cost me more than I get to mention on the wife reminds me of on a daily basis, when I say, "I've seen this new microphone that I really quite like." You know what I mean? There's money involved there, but not, you know what I mean? Is that the goal? Do you need to keep that in mind? As an indie podcast, actually, we have a contract with our listeners, but we need to be, you know, we need to be not selling in the shite that's fed to us, but you know, selling a true story, if you will. You know, I'll go ahead and answer that. So, Bo, as you know, I'm a fan of the Dallas Cowboys and ironically, I was listening to one of the Dallas Cowboys podcasts and if you've ever listened to it, there's a longtime journalist who's followed the Dallas Cowboys cult named Mickey Spagnola. And Mickey was on the podcast and one of the things that he said, and he just dropped the nugget. I don't remember how it fit in there, and I don't remember what the context of it was, but he dropped the nugget and he says, "You know, the journalist should never be the story." And I heard that and I went, "Oh, what was that? The journalist should never be the story." And, you know, I think with the media over here, obviously there's a pretty contentious election happening right now. I think most of the world can pretty much say that we, I don't want to see a debate. I want to see an in-ring fight. I just like, let's just do it. You know, you're geriatric. Let's get it going. But on the flip side, you know, the journalists are the people who create the stories at times, and they're the people who pound the drum for the stories. And it happens on both sides of the aisle, but I think one of the things that I don't like about the media is how income driven they are. And what I mean by that is that when Walter Cronkite was reporting the news here in the US, he simply stated what was happening, and he left it for the audience to interpret, and they can create their own opinions from it. And that was a long-standing tradition in news media. But then cable news came out. You have the CNNs of the world. You have the Fox News of the world, the MSNBCs of the world, all of those. And they started doing news 24 hours a day. And with that became more room for ad space. And so they can sell ads based on that space. And if you're running a company, if you own a company and you say, okay, I would like to have an investor in this company. And you find an outside company that says, hey, yeah, not only will I invest in your company, but I'd love to be able to share some ownership in your company, or at least have a creative say, whether it be stock votes or whatever else. I'd love to do that. As a matter of fact, how many shares are you selling? You're sharing 500 sales? Shares? Why don't I buy all 500 from you? And then I'll support your journey because I believe what you're doing. But you better bet when it's that time to vote, when it's the time in the boardroom to vote, that if they have voting share, they're going to have a say. And I think that that's the that's the worst part about news media, because I'm a I'm a purist where I want the news to be told to me without opinion. And then I want to be able to form my opinion. And what we find, at least here in the US, and I'm not sure what it's like in the UK, is that a lot of times people's opinions are formed by the news station delivering the news. It's not formed by the opinion that they've formed of listening to the news, if that makes sense. And that's that's a big downfall. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. So what we have here in the UK is similar in many ways. You have Sky News, which runs around the clock. You have like, you know, ITV and a few other news stations. However, we do have the British Broadcasting Corporation, which is which has to be it has to be neutral as the idea behind it. I'm not sure it's as neutral as perhaps they want us to believe that it is if I'm going to be really honest. But there's no advertising on it. So there's no money meant on it. You know, it's funded by the fact that we get charged a licensed fee. We all pay our 11 pound a month. And it goes to the BBC. There's no adverts on the BBC at all. I know I think there might be some times in some of the like the World Service stuff. I'm not sure. But it's here in the here in the UK. No adverts, so no money men. But then you got to bear in mind, it is still run by people who do have political allegiances. It's still run by people who set on boards of other companies. So it is not anywhere near as neutral as they would love us. I think it is a more tell us on a daily basis. We're neutral. We're not funded. There's no adverts on the BBC. You can trust us. No, you can't because you have your own opinions. You have your own agendas and they get shared on a regular regular basis. Yeah, absolutely. We'll move away from that rather thorny issue of politics in the media. We're going to keep this upbeat. And what I want to hear about as well do. So like you said at the start, I'm full to discussions. Wasn't your first podcast was was bleach brothers? Was that the first one you featured on them? Yeah, bleach bros was the first podcast that we did. I think our first episode, I think our first episode came out in it was April or May of 2021. And so let me let me back that up even a little bit more. So we were childhood friends, both Jake and I, I first met Jake in the third grade. And Jake and I became friends because he was being bullied. And I came to his defense. He was, you know, all of maybe two feet tall and maybe 20, 20 pounds. And I was, you know, much taller and much bigger than he was. And to his surprise, I just picked him up out of the situation, physically picked him up out of the situation. And I walked him away from it and ever since, then he's worshiped me. And so even to this day, he'll worship me. He probably won't ever mention, you won't ever admit that. But we're just going to call it that he's not here to defend himself. So, so yeah, so we were friends for a long time. And I moved away. I moved back in high school. And in high school, we really developed this great friendship. And we've been able to share life together. You know, I mean, we're, we're both, I mean, I'm 40 this year, he's going to be 40 here soon. And, you know, we've been able to share a lot of our lives together. And so we, we would talk a lot about, you know, common interests, whether it be comic book movies or, you know, just different pop culture and, and, you know, different media or sports or, you know, beer, you know, life, fatherhood, etc. And so we decided that we wanted to, I don't know, maybe create a podcast. A lot of our conversations were two and a half, three hours long. And his wife didn't really like that because if I was a female, he had a thought that he was cheating, you know, and so, but we, we went ahead and we, we had this great conversation. And we decided, okay, well, let's, you know, we're both a fan of podcasts. Let's try to put this down. And so we did, I invested in some, some, you know, microphone and different things like that. And roadcaster and, you know, all the technology that I was told that I needed to be a podcaster. And he bought the cheapest microphone he could find. And so we were, we sat down, we recorded our first episode. And it was actually about the Mortal Kombat movie that came out like that was the main theme of what, of what we were talking about. But there were other things like movie theater etiquette and, you know, different stuff in there that was a great conversation. And we ended the episode and it was perfect. I mean, for a first episode, it was perfect. We had, we had phenomenal banter going back and forth. We had a lot of great topics that we discussed. And he sent me his voice track. And it sounded like Alvin in the chipmunks. And I went, Oh, no. Oh, no. And so I have a friend of mine who he owns a, well, he's a pastor of a church, but he owns a sound studio in Eastern Nevada. And so I sent, I sent it to him and I said, Hey, is this something that you can try to fix? And he says, Well, let me try. Sure enough, it wasn't. So our first episode was perfect, right? And it still is to this day, because I have nothing to say it wasn't. But then we sat down and we created another one and another one and another one and we got 100 and, Oh gosh, I don't know, like 160 some odd episodes or 170 some on episodes in. And we had a lot of fun talking. We talked everything from society and, and life, we really didn't get political, but society in life, we talked about fatherhood, we talked about men's mental health, we talked about movies and TV shows and documentaries. And as a matter of fact, one of the, one of the episodes that we had, and for, I have no clue what the reason is, but it was a, it was an episode on Kanye West. And we titled it, Don't Call Me Nothing, or can't tell me nothing. And after his song, and it was on the, the Kanye documentary, that episode is still on fire to this day. I mean, the amount of downloads that come from that episode, I think that there's a lot of people that don't know the difference between the song and the podcast, because they're just giving it enough of a listen to at least generate a download for us. But, but yeah, we had a lot of fun. We ended up doing some patreon. We had, we had a lot of fun on patreon. You know, you get a little bit more crazy on patreon than you tend to do, just for public content. But all of our patreon content is now, is now at least available to the public because we, we folded. But, you know, Jake was doing the hateful gnomes music hunt. I was doing unfiltered discussions. And both of us really enjoyed that path. And he and I, with bleach bros, had gone for probably, I think if you were to talk to gnome from, from the Raunchy regret podcaster, formerly dad's on day quill, and currently with the hateful gnomes music hunt, he would probably tell it tell you that we were button heads a little bit more than, you know, a couple months. But creatively, creatively is where we were button heads. Like, I wanted to go this way. Jake wanted to go this way. And we never fought as friends. Like, that was always a thing. Like, it was never a friend fight. It was always a creative fight. And where we, where we came into the podcast racket and we said, we, our friendships first, the podcast is second. So if there's ever a point in time where we just don't want to do this, we're just going to fold the podcast. And we both just had that gentleman's agreement on it. And when it came to the point of, of, of doing that, I mean, we had done, and I don't kind of jump around here, but we had done some phenomenal episodes. We did a Super Bowl preview show every year. And that was creatively and, and production wise was one of our best episodes of any, of any season. We had done a top, I think it was a top 50 movies or top 100 movies. I don't remember exactly what it was, but, but we had done some different countdowns. We had, we had done some different things within the podcast racket. And when, when we finally just sat down and said, you know, we're not having fun anymore creatively, we both just said, okay, that's, that's where it's at. And so we finished it up. We finished our countdown list. So whatever the countdown was 50 or 100, we got to number one on our movie list. And that was put out a little bit earlier than anticipated, just because we, we folded. But, you know, I still talk with Jake to this day. I love the guy to death. He and I are still best friends. We just don't podcast together. And, you know, he backed away from the hateful gnomes music hut as well, because he just needed a break. He needed a moment. And he's, he's come back on. We have a new podcast called Ranchi Regret, which is, it's me from the bleach bros, nomen stone from the dad's on day quill, which it, which it folded. And then busy from fraternize with these guys. And so the four of us are having a good time. And one episode recently we actually had Pinewood on from fraternize with dome from dad's on day quill with Jake from the bleach bros. And we just had this epic meltdown episode of all proportions. And, you know, we're still, we're still having a lot of fun with the podcast thing. But, you know, Jake and Jake is, is doing a different route. He's, he's not a, what would you call it a degenerate gambler? Like that's not him. But he loves to gamble. And specifically on sports. So he's, he's working himself up in that, in that direction right now. And he's partnered with a gentleman who's got a little betting network. And so he's, he's offering advice with that. And there's talk of potentially a YouTube show at some point. And so I'm, I'm rooting him. I'm rooting for him. I'm a cheerleader for him. And he's still rooting me on here. But it is a common misconception. I mean, when a, when a podcast fold, it's always where's the drama, where's the drama? Really, there was no drama. It was, it was a very amicable, very mutual parting of ways. And we, we love each other. We had a blast. And, and you know, I look back on bleach bros as a really, really fun time, because there were a lot of really, really fun episodes, a lot of great guests, a lot of horrible guests. I mean, you will know just by having guests on, you will find a guest that you're trying to talk to that doesn't respond. And when you go to edit that episode, it's like, Oh God, maybe we should just scrap the episode, right? We had one guest who just talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and then I would try to say something and he's talking over me while I'm trying to say something. I'm like, I'm going to scrap this episode. We're going to have to record something right after this. And turns out it turned out okay. But you know, you get all those stories behind the scenes. And that's a time that's a time in my life that I'll always look back on fun for sure. Yeah. I'll tell you beans. Before tall boy radio became tall boy radio, Brian. This was beans does stuff, right? He started off with beans does stuff. And I have an hour drive to work every morning and I would listen to him. The first time I ever heard this man's voice was on beans does stuff. And that was that was the first time I would listen to him going to work. And I think that one of the first episodes was how to do a podcast. And you know, razors and how to make tacos and all that, you know, it was it was always just something. So he was just trying to find content, whatever it was, right? It could just be this. And for me, it was just amazing being able to hear his voice. Yeah, because I've never talked to this man before ever. So listening to him. And that's where I realized he was just a good storage error teller. Like you are good at just being able to listen and respond and, you know, make someone feel comfortable. He was a great storyteller. So when he when he went to tall boy radio, when they switched over, I was like, Hey, this is awesome. They're having these conversations. Well, as an outsider looking in beans, at one point, you guys switched over to, let's talk about the beers that we had. And I wasn't into that. I was just, I thought at some point, like you've really kind of centered yourself into just one little thing here, right? And that's it. So they got away from that format and started just talking about things that come up and people and everything like that. So I'm sure the content has got to be hard to try to get a hold of all the time, right? Not for unfiltered discussions, because I think that's wide open, right? It could be anything. It could be the story me and beans have or, you know, like you said, someone's, you know, parents dying or, or, you know, maybe something happened in their life. The world is open to that. But when you're talking about always just trying to find content, I'm sure beans that that's a little difficult, right? Oh, yeah, it is. You know, we, we'd love to have guests on. So we did an episode, the last episode we put out, I think, what might have been the one before, I forget that we recorded some since, where we didn't have a guest. But the idea was that we did have a guest on there. And that's what I prefer. Basically, I want to learn a little bit of something. I want to spend an hour here in somebody else's story. I want to find out. And I think those episodes are the episodes that people most enjoy, because people who listen to us also are inquisitive and want to find out a little bit about something. So, you know, people are finding out a little bit about your podcast journey tonight. And I'm, and I don't doubt that they'll really enjoy it, especially the bird world. But I think I really love that. But hearing about unfiltered discussion, and I guess them thinking, because, you know, you can stick on a podcast, you can enjoy it. You can, you can take them, you can imbibe the subject matter. But if you hear a little bit behind it and what goes into it, and like Beau says, just, just trying to get content and people together, you know, I remember, like, so I was flicking through Spotify, and I wanted to listen to an episode. I was, happened to cross-pleach for this, and I was listening. I thought, I listened to one of theirs. I knew what a guy on called Vic Ferrari, and I was like, how do you get such a good guess like that? Unbeknownst to me, I had not checked my emails. I had an email on my inbox that day from Vic Ferrari, saying, did you want me as a guest? Yes, we do. And we've had you on several times. He's absolutely fantastic. But yeah, you're, you're 100% right. Getting content is, is difficult. I'll tell you one podcast that still hasn't been made and needs to be made. So when I was in, in Texas last summer, I sat down, I had, I had breakfast with, with Beau and Ron, who he works with. That was an episode that needed to be made. If we could have put a microphone on there and just recorded those two guys talk, I'm telling you, people would have listened to it. Yeah, yeah, there was a little, a little diner here in town, you know, there's only 8,000 people in the town I live in. And we do that on purpose. And we, you know, we don't want to be around anybody when we get off work, you know, in San Antonio. So we live in ourselves and this little diner that, and you know, I figured, let's, let's bring beans. Let's, let's bring them to the place that we spend our Saturdays. You know, we go in there, sit at the same table. They just come over and bring the coffee, bring our drinks. That's what I want when I retire, right? I just want to sit there. But and just see, just see in his face, because we talked about whatever, whatever happened at work that week, or just whatever, you know, and to see him sitting there, that's, that's what I want in like 10 years when I can actually sit down and retire. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to come up with content. And with bleach bros, it's funny. And I'll, you know, I'll share this with you guys. But we didn't go in with a topic. So, you know, again, we had this three hour conversation, two hour conversation, whatever it was on a telephone, really just talking about life. It was two dudes just talking about things that they were interested in or affected them or whatever. So when we came up with the concept of bleach bros, we had talked about doing a, you know, beer focused podcast. We talked about doing a sports podcast. We talked about doing, you know, just different things like that. And we said, you know, let's just switch it up every week. Let's just do that. And we did. And we found that people always had an opinion, like, you know, oh, well, I don't like it when you talk about Marvel movies. Okay, that's fine. Tune in next week, you know, and then the next week we talk about men's mental health or we talk about, you know, something that was important to us, but trying to find the name. So bleach bros, right? What does bleach bros mean? Well, we, when we were kids, I used to, you know, Justin Timberlake and in sync were like a thing, right? And then you had Eminem right around that time and everybody would bleach their hair. And so I bleach my hair just from the top up, which is why my hair is really thin from the top up. But I would, I would bleach my hair. And there was a time that it was me and it was Jake. And then we have another podcast on the podcast network called Two Guys in a Dart and Mitch is one of the hosts and Mitch was one of our childhood buddies. And there was another guy that were there and somehow Jake, because Jake's always been this crazy guy, like, if you need somebody to instigate something, Jake is your man. And he says, Hey, we're not bleached in your hair tonight. We're not. No, but you're still blinded by the bleach. Okay, fine. So we bought the bleach and we bought Dr. Pepper, because that's the only soda that matters to the story. And then we also bought, we went to Hollywood video, we rented some some the closest thing we can get to porn, we rented that. And one of the things that we rented was, oh gosh, it's the movie kissing scene with cruel intentions. And so we get back to the fourth guy's house and where it is house and I pull open the bleach because I was going to bleach my hair. And he says, we're not doing that. I said, well, I just opened it. So we're doing something and Jake goes, we're bleaching our pubes. And so I went, okay, we're bleaching our pubes. So here's the four of us teenagers completely innocently. I mean, this wasn't in a sexual way or anything. Gayist moment of my life. Happy Pride Month. We sat down and we're bleaching our pubic hair. And we're watching cruel intentions drinking Dr. Pepper. Okay. All of that might seem kind of out of the ordinary, but for us, it was totally normal. And don't ask me how we got there. But then the fourth guy's dad walked in and he goes, Hey, you guys doing all right? And here's all of us just rubbing that stuff in, you know, and we're like, yeah, we're fine. And he just goes, okay, you guys have a good time. He walks out, didn't see anything. He was completely oblivious. But if you've ever colored your hair in any fashion, you understand what kind of burn that comes after that things, but and that's not a fun area to burn, right? And so we're so now we're all fighting to go into the shower again. Happy Pride Month, everybody. So we're we are going into the shower and I'm I'm fighting for the shower and Jake's down on his knees below me trying to fight for the faucet. You got the little thing on the faucet, you know, that that lets that lets it in and I'm fighting him and oh my god. So when we came up for a name, we're like, well, there's nobody else. We can probably guarantee there's nobody else who has that experience, not at all. And we were that NSFW podcast. And we and so I threw it out there. I said, what about bleach bros? And he's like, that's our podcast name. So when you look at the bleach bros logo, it's inspired by Clorox. So it has a lot of the same colors that Clorox does and everything else, different shape, of course, different words or whatnot. But that's where the name bleach bros came from. And we didn't we didn't release that until January of 2022 when we were able to have Mitch on. And we had him on and we shared the story. And we I mean, behind the scenes, we had so many laughs because we all remember it slightly different. And to be honest with you, for a lot of years, I didn't even remember it. And when I remembered it, I just I was laughing so hard. I was crying. So it was, it was amazing. It was amazing. That is a great story. Yeah, I suspect that is the only situation. I hope it's the only situation where podcast is going to name from that G was there. I'm sure there could be worse things to get a podcast name from, but that was interesting. That was interesting. And then it went around the school the next day and there's stories with that and everything else. But but yeah, that was that was where that one came from for sure. No, man, I didn't expect that. I didn't expect that. So does your our president say does he know that story? Oh, goodness. That was, you know, maybe, maybe, I mean, Mike and Tabby allow him to listen to it. So but you know, that's the other that's the other part of bleach bros that was really cool is we wanted a mascot. And I had a friend of mine who's a graphic designer. He created sal the salty hippo and where that where the name came from, my buddy who's a graphic designer, he's a we call him Cuban, but he's not Cuban. He's from Nicaragua, but he's from Cuba. So he speaks Spanish and the word for salt in Spanish is sal and where the hippo comes from was actually the chemical compound of bleach. So the chemical compound of compound of bleach is sodium hypochlorite, I think, and sodium being salt and hypo turning into hippos. So we became salty hippos, a salty hippo nation. And so Sal became the, the, you know, our mascot for salty hippo nation, which was really cool, made made for great stickers and stuff. But yeah, young gunner, he has no clue all the background of that. And I have told Mike and Tabby that at some point when his hair starts to grow in that they do have to have him color it in order for him to retain the presidency. So there is that absolutely to you always that all works together. It seems to me there's a lot more thought goes into it than perhaps we see on the outside of things and things with a hippo. So I thought the hippo logo, by the way, was pretty cool. Yeah, it was pretty cool. It was a nice but a mark didn't realize there's so much thought way into it though. So fair play, fair play. So we like to keep these things for about an hour. So we need to hear that again, you're one of your other current podcast and Raunchy regret. Do you want to tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, so if you are easily offended, the name Raunchy and regret should at least steer you away from it. But you know, it is, we're four former podcasters. When bleach bros wrapped up, that bleach bros was really that method of comedy or you know, that type of release for me or that type of creativity. Whereas unfiltered discussions is very, it's very serious. It's very safe for work. I mean, there could be some language in episodes, but for the most part, you can listen to it without any issue. And I really wanted to continue to create in that in that mode. And I didn't know what I was what I was going to do. And I had had some thoughts that maybe I just transitioned into like a movie reviews or, you know, something of that nature, because that's also a passion of mine. And I was talking with gnome. And remember Jake decided not to do the hateful gnomes music hut at the same time as well. And so gnome was going, well, are we, are we going to salvage the hateful gnomes music hut? Like what's going to happen here? And so at the same time, dad's on day quill has yet to publish anything for I think over a year now. And the, you know, the thought is, is that they're they're not dead, but they're dead kind of thing. And so he says, you know, I really, I really miss that. I really want that. And I had some of that with hateful gnome, but now that hateful gnomes going away, or at least we thought, you know, what are we going to do? And I said, you know, I really wish stone who is gnomes cousin would get back into podcasting because I think that every podcast needs that fire brand needs somebody just to escalate it just a little bit just to get the comedy out of it. And he said, you know, who would be really good in the podcast market would be busy from fraternize with these guys. And so I said, I'll tell you what, you talk to busy, I'll talk to stone, and we'll figure out what we're doing. So backstory on that stone decided that he wasn't going to podcast because he was going full time for college and being full time college, full time employer or employee, and then a full time dad, he just didn't think he could do the time. And busy and Pinewood decided that the distance because that busy is up in up in Lubbock. And I don't remember exactly where Pinewood is, but they're about an hour and a half, two hours away from each other. And they would record in person. So that travel became pretty cumbersome for them. And so, so in this, I talked with stone and I said, Hey, would you have an interest to podcast anymore? And he says, yeah, I would actually, he says, I'm actually at a point where I had more time. And I was thinking about that, but dad's has gone away. And in the meantime, stone did, or sorry, gnome had reached out to busy and said, Hey, we're thinking about doing some sort of comedy podcast. And we were trying to see if you'd be interested. And literally, busy's words were I'm harder than Chinese arithmetic right now. And so we decided, well, let's just try it out. Let's figure out what's going to happen. So I record on Riverside FM. So we all hopped into a room, we've kind of started found out some chemistry and shot shot around some ideas as far as like what what sort of staples do we want in the episode? Like, how do we want it to roll? And we kind of identified that. And it's, you know, 25 episode 25 will record today. 25 episodes later, we're still trying to figure it out. But we found some really good segments. And, you know, we're having a lot of laughs. I mean, every single episode we're laughing about something. And this raunchy regret is not for everybody. You know, it's offensive. It pushes the line. It's it's vulgar. But but, you know, with everybody, they have the ability to listen to to think to these things and just really enjoy it. So if somebody hasn't had if that fills a need for somebody, I definitely suggest it. This one's probably not going to make the ton of money that all of us hope to as podcasters just because of its, you know, kind of vulgar nature. But but it but it's fun. It's a blast. And we have we have just a good time. And it's four buddies getting together virtually. A lot of times we're having a drink or something. And we're just we're just shooting the shit. And it's segmented and it's formatted and it's done very well. There's a lot of drops in it. I handle all the editing for it. So it kind of has to hit my standard of editing there. And so yeah, it's a fun time. There you go. Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like you have a lot of like a lot of items in the fire. And finding the time for that is just it seems to like you just going from one podcast to another seems like right. I mean, it's you know, let's change the switch gears. Let's go over to this one and switch gears and go over this one. Yeah, I mean, like I said, most of it's administrative. So, you know, we're we're a we're a spreaker prime network of podcasts. So there's a lot of uploads and, you know, being able to make sure that everything's formatted correctly. And I don't I don't have any I don't I don't edit any episodes for anybody. So, you know, everybody's a part of the part of the network. They entered their own episodes, but except for Raunchy regret and unfiltered. I edit those. But I do all the social media for most everybody. And we're looking to get you get a few more podcasts on. I'm actually in talks with some people that want to start their own podcasts. And we're looking to do that. And there's a little bit of revenue that happens with it ad wise, but you know, I'm not getting rich off of it. So but but I I also want there to be an iron sharpening iron for podcasts to help every podcast get better. And since Jake has left the hateful gnome, stone is actually hopped on to the hateful gnome, both he and gnome have the same music taste or at least the the hard heavy music. And I'll be honest with you, I didn't know what kind of interviewer stone was going to be. And he's phenomenal. I mean, he's going into what kind of guitars do you have what kind of stuff do you have? Here's what I use. And I went, wow, this is a nice little little flavor that we didn't have before. And, you know, two guys in a dart are doing their things. Mitch over at two guys in a dart has actually started his own podcast called the heroic headspace podcast, where he gets deep into nerddom, which as a fan fills me because I I'm totally in all the Marvel and DC stuff, you know, so being able to have him talk about that is pretty cool. And then like I said, we're we're looking for a couple other podcasts to join. And I'm currently in talks with a couple people. And the back catalogs of bleach bros are still active. We're getting ready to upload the back catalogs are fraternized. And then dads on decals switch in their back catalog over as well. So there's there's, you know, it's not it's not for everybody, but I want to podcast network that can find something for someone, if that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Do that makes total sense. It does sound like you're awfully busy. You know, we struggle to get one podcast out there on a weekly basis. You know what I mean, to try, you know, Dave's never available on the weekend, because we'll be here with us, his family time. He's a CEO of a business and he's exceptionally busy. Gas, you know, he would have been here tonight if it wasn't for the fact that his daughter's just come back from a Duke of Edinburgh award. And, you know, so he's got to spend some time with her, which is fair enough. We can't, you know, we can't hold that against him. Family comes first. We understand. But yeah, man, I don't know. I don't know how you manage to get it out there, dude. That's some some serious work going into this. It, I have to, I have to schedule everything. So for instance, I, you know, for unfiltered discussions, I schedule everything through Calendly, which is a free calendar app. And as guests register, they can also pick the times that I select are available. So for instance, this week, I interviewed six people. I actually finished all of the season three interviews this week. So I was pretty happy about that. And then in addition to that, Raunchy has a set date and time. So that's really easy. I know that that's coming around. And with four co-hosts, it, it, one person can be off and it can still run, you know, and in some cases, two people can be off and it can still run. So, you know, it's just one of those things. But yeah, just having a time manager, it's just that just the things I'm happy my work schedule is solid. So, you know, it allows me the time to do that. Fair play. Fair play. Well, thank you for fitting an hour of us today today to be fair. Oh, fantastic. Probably about the only hour you had spare from the sounds of things. No, no, I definitely put you guys in anytime you guys wanted to. This is, this is, I listened to tall boy radio and, and as a matter of fact, just the other day, before, before I got this message from you to say, Hey, would you like to be on? I was listening to the Mandela effect one. And I was like, Oh my gosh, this is hitting everything in my brain that I love because I love those deep theories, like the Younger Dryas impact theory, anything to do with the Anunaki, the, you know, just just those weird things. And so that that fits in right where I was at. So, but you guys are putting out a great product. I really enjoy it. And of course, you know, I'm with Bo. I love, I think you're a hell of a storyteller. So, the more stories and the more things that you can implement on this, the better it is. And it's just pretty awesome what you're doing. Oh, dude. I appreciate. I appreciate. I think it's your kind words. So, just before we go then, did you want to, you know, like you say, you've got some new podcasts just coming on and people start in podcasts? Do you want to check some advice out to those people? Anybody out there who wants to start a podcast, what's your best bit of advice for them? Sound quality. You have to have good sound quality. And by that, it doesn't mean that you have to have a microphone. It doesn't mean that you have to have a top of the line microphone. But especially if there's a podcast that has multiple people on there, the volume levels for the finished product need to at least be the same. It can't be that one host or one person is so quiet and the other one's so loud because at the end of the day, you'll just drown it out and people won't listen to it. It doesn't matter what format you listen to it on. But for podcasts that don't, that are thinking about calling it quits, I can tell you from experience that it does kind of suck to call it quits. You do have kind of that loss, if you will, the bereavement process of it. But I think it's a very notable way that we decided to to wrap things up. And I would say at the end of the day, friendships are more important than podcasts. So I would I would prioritize that. And then the other thing that I would say is if you if you don't if you don't feel like you're succeeding, just keep going, just keep going, just continue to put it out. And if you if you reach a point that you're done putting it out fine, but just continue to put it out, you're probably somebody's favorite podcast and you have no clue about it. So just just keep going. That's good advice. That is good advice. Two hundred and thirty one episodes and we're still opening for listeners. You know, I mean, if anyone wants to join the journey, more than welcome, more than welcome. Bo, have you enjoyed tonight? It was amazing. It's great talking to Brian again. I mean, it's it was a you've got so much going on and you're so easy to talk to. I don't know why more people just don't get involved in any of your podcasts. So thank you for having having me on. Thank you, having Brian on. It was a perfect episode for me to to start my guest host career. Indeed. Indeed. I want to we never even mentioned them cowboys. You know what I mean? Are they they make it as a whole? I mean, I kind of threw him in. I don't know. I, you know, I'll I'll give you a 20,000 foot view. We can't afford Dak. We can't afford CD and we can't afford Micah. So something's going to give there F you know, the next year, we're going to have the same cap hell. So if we think that we're going to pay everybody, it's just not going to happen. So I think what I think what is going to happen is is that Dak is going to play his final year for the Dallas Cowboys this year. And he's going to go win a Super Bowl for the Raiders. And I'm going to be pissed off by it. And we're going to pay Micah. We're going to pay CD and we're going to have Trey Lance or somebody else is a quarterback and we're going to, you know, see what happens from there. But Bo, what do you think's going to happen? It kind of the same. We got you can't pay everybody. And you know, it doesn't matter what Dak says. Dak says he doesn't play for the money. No, you're absolutely playing for the money. If not, you're going to sign a contract already. So this is this is definitely about taking care of your future. I get it. It just I just don't think it's going to be in Dallas. Right. I just don't think that's going to be it. What I do know is as soon as the schedule comes out every year, me and Ron get tickets to a game. And we're going to be there in October for Dallas versus Detroit. It's going to be a blast. So I'm going to be there for that one. And by the way, beans, we we played Pittsburgh this year. I know I've seen I've seen I've also seen the odds on us making the Super Bowl and the odds on you guys make it. Obviously, I work for a bookmakers that we won't we don't mention names. Yeah, I work for bookmakers and they are offering pretty good odds on you guys making the zoom ball. I think it's really really it happens over here. It happens every year. Here's the thing. We were a good team last year who lost good players, but but we didn't lose great players. Let me let me say that again. We lost good players, but we didn't lose great players. So we have the potential to make some noise again this year. This is lit. This is it though. This is this is the entire window. This is where the window closes. So if if we do make some noise, if we do make the win, you know, make the big dance, this is it. It's not happening twice and twice in a row. This is not the 94. This is not the 93 Bulls. This is the one and done. This is the the Tampa Bay without Brady Super Bowl. You know what I mean? This is this is the Ravens with Joe Flacco Super Bowl. This is not this is not my homes. So it'll be it'll be interesting to see for sure. And you can't go 12 and five and then go out one and done. You can't. I mean, that's just not going to cut it every year. No, I agree with you, man. I agree with you. But when when Dallas plays in in Las Vegas, when they actually play the Raiders in Las Vegas, I'm going to go to that game. Because that's just, you know, really quick flight away. But next time I next time I go to Dallas, because I do try to get in try to get a game in at least a year, maybe every other year. When I get down there, Bo, I'll reach out to you. Maybe we can grab a cup of coffee or something. Yeah, no problem. We'll do it. Sounds good. Awesome. Awesome. Well, we will be at the NFL as well. And by we, I mean, myself, gas and Andy, we've got tickets for the Bears game in London. So it's not quite quite as deliberate as you guys in the States. But, you know, Wembley's not so well, that's not a one. But this time I've taught them up with Oxford Stadium, which as an Arsenal fan football wise, I'm not too thrilled about their closest rivals. And I mean, geographically, not in terms of the league. So yeah, I'm going to, you know, I think it's 140 quid of a page for the ticket. So it's 140 pounds of my money is going into Daniel Levy's pocket home spurs. I'm going to do 140 pounds worth damage to that stadium. And good for Gazzo. Yeah, good for Gazzo. He gets to see his team. So there you go. Yeah, guys, it's a Bears fan. So, you know, I mean, he's going to enjoy that. He's going to enjoy that. We've seen the Bears before. We've seen the Steelers before in London. Yeah, it's a great day out. And to be honest, the best part about it is only Americans that are there. We hit the bars. We go down on the Saturday and we, you know, we're just going to have a beer with some of the guys who are there to enjoy the game. We've met some great people. We've got ourselves into some awful States or some other matter with the beer that we've been on. But G was, yeah, we met some fantastic people just talking to people about the NFL and just how passionate they are. And, you know, they're over here for one day, you know, we're in London, you know, it's not too far for us to go. It's a fantastic experience. It's not the same. One of these days, I will make the trip out to America and I will watch an NFL game now and it will be the Steelers. And if it's playing the Cowboys, then maybe you're not going along there as well. Yeah, we'll do it. Hey, I'm in on that one too. Don't leave me out. Oh, we're not leaving out. Yeah. We'll make it happen. As a matter of fact, there's three stadiums I really want to visit. There's the Pittsburgh Stadium because of the fan base. The fan base is so just and they're welcoming. They're not Philly. Like Philly is terrible. Then I want to see Kansas City as a night game and I want to see Green Bay as a day game in the snow. Those would be the three stadiums I would want to visit like bucket list. Yeah, that would be special. That would be special. But for now, we're going to wrap it up. So Brian, do you want to tell us where we can find you on social media? Absolutely. So the primary podcast is unfiltered discussions. It's @unfilteredDS. I'm on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. I also share on LinkedIn. So if you look on LinkedIn and you search unfiltered discussions podcast, you'll see it there. The B-word Media Group is the main media group. It's formerly Bleach Bros podcast, but now it's B-word Media Group. You'll find B-word Media Group on social media on X or Twitter and Instagram and the podcasts that are within the network are Raunchy Regret, two guys in a Dart, unfiltered discussions, heroic headspace, a hateful Nomes Music Hut. I know I'm missing a couple here. And all the ones that I mentioned in this episode, so just go ahead and follow those guys. If they're your flavor, you'll enjoy it. If not, there's different flavors of ice cream out there and I'm sure that we can probably find one for you. So thank you so much for allowing me to be on. No, absolute pleasure, absolute pleasure to share with you again. Bo, do you want to leave us your final thoughts? Final thoughts are, I appreciate you having me on, and Brian and I'm available anytime that you want to kick guys out. You just got to put up with that flag that I got back here. Well, good luck. Love you guys. I'm trying to take your spot. So appreciate everything. Thanks. No worries, no worries. So yeah, thank you guys for joining us. Really, really appreciate it. And Bo, just to make it clear, we threw the offer out to you to join us before we knew the guys. Guys, don't let me know an hour before that we wasn't going to be on it. God bless me. We always knew Dave was going to be at Andy. That's another story altogether. Well, we're getting back on soon. So thank you guys for listening out there. Thank you guys, you know, for anybody who's interested in this, and if you've not heard any of B Word's podcasts, get out there and listen to me. I promise you, there's one exceptional episode of unfiltered discussions that you're really going to enjoy with myself and Bo's does it, turns on it. But it's also a lot of other good stuff on there, and Bo's come. So thank you and good night. [Music]