Final episode in “the studio”. We’re moving house and now must finally say goodbye to the room that hosted every episode we’ve done together. We’ll be back next week with a new place x
Much love as always. Sorry about my socks.
Boys Gone Wild
Boys Gone Wild | Episode 230: End of an Era
(upbeat music) - Who's here for me? It's the level of venue. - Yeah, I reckon that's good. - Yeah. - This isn't one to have bad oat. - Yeah. - Good bye. And welcome to another episode of Boys Gone Wild. - I don't want to talk about that. - Do you see this out? - No, that's a good start. 'Cause I always say hello and welcome. - Yeah, good bye, you know. - Instead, it's goodbye and welcome. - Goodbye and welcome. - Goodbye and hello and welcome to the well. This is a very, I guess a special episode of Boys Gone Wild. This is the last time we'll ever be in the studio. - Unless things go really poorly in the future. - Well, what would have to happen? - We would have to move back in. - I guess that's-- - I guess if-- - That's just a work out how we could have it. - That would be an absolute disaster. - Well, if the house is terrible and our landlord's like, you're the only people that can save it. - That's in some ways-- - Is that something that he says we move on? - No, but in some ways that's quite positive if it's like, the house that leads us. - We'll be the only people who would accept living here. - Yeah, I guess if World War III starts now, everything falls through. - Yeah. - And we use this time. - Do you think if World War III starts, we'd lose our new house? - Well, I guess that. I think we'd hunker down as this is like a-- - This is definitely more of a bunker. (laughing) - Than our houses, yeah. - But I guess we wanted to sort of, I don't know how big much of a big deal we should be-- - People are gonna freak out. - Yeah. - Because it's our autistic fan base. - Exactly. - It's only a change. - It's only ever been, it's been in the sheds when I was doing it. - Yeah. - And then we've only ever done it here. - We've only ever done it here. It wasn't a while we've ever done it. - So, yeah, I guess I'm trying to, I just don't know how big a deal to make out of it, you know? - For us it's not really-- - Sports, feelings, comments. - Yeah, for us it's not a massive deal. - No, 'cause I've wanted to move-- - Because we don't, yeah. - Out of this place at all. - For a while. (laughing) - So that's why it's just a positive. - That's why general feeling about the house is it's like, I've been here for so long, so that you kind of, I'm trying to force some tears and stuff, but I've been-- - But you're so ready to leave. - I'm so ready to leave, but it's like-- - Yeah, well, this would be my last time in the house for 100%, so-- - Do you think? - I'm going to France this evening, so. - That's it. - But I'm gonna walk past here pretty much every day. - Exactly. - Weird, isn't it? - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm gonna be peeping through the windows. - Definitely. I mean, it's a very open house. - Yeah. - You don't have much privacy. We've been moving out of this place all of the last couple of days, and as you do when you're clearing out, you pile up a lot of bin bags, right? - Yeah. - And we've all often had bronzes up in bags, 'cause-- - 'Cause at the end of the farewell to the studio. - No, we'll come back. - Yeah, okay, fine, fine. - Let's give it a bit more than that. - That's kind of working in the house. - It's in the end of it. - So unlike every house on our road, which has the infamous London black railings, you might have seen them in Paddington too. Mary Poppins. - Yeah. - I can't think of any films like that. - News footage of Assange being dragged out with the Ecuadorian embassy. - Yeah, iconic railings or iconic type. Those are the three things I think of when I think of London. - And the railings, you know, they're iconic aesthetic of London, but the main thing is that they defend your bins, right? - For some reason, we don't have those railings. - It's a very loose defense. Like if someone wants to get it, your bins are raining, you're gonna stop it. - It's more of a principle. - Yeah. - Don't be rooting around why bins. For some reason, we don't. So that means that-- - Because we live in the overtly shit houses, the whole neighborhood. - Yeah, the landlord doesn't care about it. - If our street was a group photo, our house is the ugly guy with acne, with the ball out. - Yep. - With the ball out. - He's got like a test, you know. - Okay, okay. - The football for some reason is funnier. Then having just a footballer. I think it's just like, how is he? - He's going to be playing, he's like 30. - Is there any bit whole to be playing football? - Yeah, this is a wedding. - Yeah, like, always says something's football. - So it's always been open to the elements, and Fox is regularly route around our bins. But we had like 20 bags out the front. Well, actually, probably like 12. - Oh. - Wow. - Wow, like Jay, who's that? - Wow, big numbers. - I was worried you'd put me up on it, I was like. - Honest reporting is important. - Yeah. - Around 12. - 20 was the end. - No, my new house resolution is less hyper-ball. - Yeah. - Oh, we're fucked. (laughing) - We literally-- - That's what his podcast is going to be. - Yeah, that's our brother. - So when Adam came back yesterday, before anyone else, just, we're doing some bits in the house, he saw all of those bins, completely shredded open, stuff everywhere. I might put a picture up, I don't know if I can be asked, but it's such a spectacular image of the front of my house. - But, 'cause I don't think people believe just how fucked our house can be sometimes. - But an interesting clue about that was that there wasn't the bin bags, there wasn't like remnants of bin bags, the bin bags seem to have disappeared completely from view. - Yeah. - Which was an interesting clue, because when foxes come in, they'll take a couple of chomps out, but they're quite messy to foxes, famously. - They're the leaves on their mind, other than food, I reckon. - Yeah, well, but it was the, so if you look at that picture, you can't really see any, so there were 12 bin bags. If a fox had been out of it, you'd expect to see some torn up bin bags. But weirdly with that, it was the absence of bin bags. - So all of the waste from mainly my rent, to be honest, was just scattered-- - I've heard the word waste so many times in the last week, it's driving me fucking mental. I can't talk about waste, or like different interior signs. - We're gonna talk about waste. - We're gonna talk about waste, let's go. - Onwards and upwards. - Strewing all over the street. I don't know if you're walking past that house. - It was like a scene out of Mad Max Fury Road. - But if I saw someone's house like that, I don't think I've ever seen that one. I've never seen much waste outside of anyone's house ever. - No, it looks deliberately placed, particularly without the bin bags. - But I can't imagine just the neighbor's house having-- - That much waste. - That's crazy. That's kind of much more, that's fucking mad. - It's a lot of waste. - Basically, we started thinking that maybe it wasn't foxes, or as it couldn't have been foxes. - The theory was that maybe someone had gone past and saw that that many bin bags should think and these fuckers are moving out. - There's some gold dust in here. Maybe there's some shit that they've got for ID. - To be fair, it was bags of cash that we-- - Yeah. - We kind of-- - We'll keep them here for now, and we'll come back and get them once the full movie's done. - Well, I was more thinking, can I be asked to put this in the bank? - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - It's a long way out there. - That's all out there. - We'll leave them in there. - Half a million pounds worth of cash. - It's all our Patreon money that usually lines the walls. - I'm just, but when you're throwing stuff out, it's better just to be like, just get rid of it. You're never gonna use it. - That's well. That was when we were-- - I thought about the cash. - Yeah. - I might just put it in the bank. - Well, there's no room. I don't want the new place to be closeted. - Drew was standing there with wads of cash. - It's just chucking a bit. - It's chucking a bit. - You'll never use it. - You'll never use it. - It'll all sit in your new flat early on top. - Yeah, we're great bringing it. It's gonna clap the place so I'm just gonna bet the-- - It's-- - It's trust me. - Yeah. - You got it. The sun has got to be the tough guy. - It's true. I love binning stuff, I've realized. - It's great. - Yeah. There's two types of people, I sound like fucking BuzzFeed, but there are two types of people. 'Cause Adam was like going, oh yeah, and looking at like, I don't know, half a Dijon mustard from a year ago being like, I guess it was like-- - Just binning it. - Binning it. - Just binning it. - Binning everything. And it's quite, it's a cathartic thing. - It's great. It's good. - It's good. - Yeah, so Adam then, because he was the only one here painstakingly rebagged everything, right? And then I come back, I come an hour and a half later, and they've been rebagged, but they've got loads of holes. - This is outside the front of my house, by the way. - Yeah, they've got loads of holes in them, and I was like, oh, I guess Adam used the remnants of the bin bags to put it back in. - A controversial decision. - I was like, it's a bit weird, I'm gonna rebag these, this is crazy. - Right. - And then I tell Adam, I'm just gonna rebag the front. There's holes in them. He's like, no, there's not. I was like, yeah, there it is. He comes and checks, and basically he's been cleaning the bath from 45 minutes after rebagging them. - 45 minutes. - And in that time, the homeless person, all the fox, all the fox man, we don't know who has come back to the fox man, and I had another go at the bins. - So, well, there was less bins when it was rebounding. - No, we have, we have, there's more to the story. - Yeah. - The bin, there's like a local bin ban. He seems to be like a private bin man. He doesn't seem to work for anyone. He goes round and high. - Well, vigilante bin man. - I think it's a vigilante bin man, like. - Taking the waste into his own hand. - Bin man, bin man. - Bin man. - Yeah, well, that's the problem. - Yeah, I guess it. (both laughing) - Bin, bin that man. Bin that man. - Bin, bin man. - The dark, the, the white, the white, the, what other superheroes are there? Captain Binman. - Sure, so we met Captain Binman. - Yeah, no, I prefer Binman. - I met Captain Binman. - I don't know why. - You're 10 stars. - Well, 'cause this is the thing. - Yeah. - Is that he'd said, when he was doing his rounds, his vigilante rounds, he said, "Oh, I've seen a lady." - Well, you tell him that. - What, he was sort of laughing, sort of like, - It was funny. - Yeah, he was funny. - It wasn't my outside bin. I was laughing anyway. - It was, I think you're sort of implying, did you know that woman who was rooting through your bins? - No, I'm not. - And I was like, "No." And who, I was trying to get more as much information out of him as possible without sounding rude, 'cause I just wanted to paint a picture. - How would you sound rude? - So I said. - How would you sound rude? - Well, I asked, was she high? - I know, first you didn't want to be insensitive. - Were they homeless? - Yeah. - And he said, "Yeah." And then I said, "Were they high?" And then he said, "About this tool." - Yeah, it turns out. - I'm gonna feel less powerful. - As much as I possibly could. - Yeah. - I just wanted, I was so fascinated by the kind of person who did it. - You saw bad headlines, so you were like, - You know, it'd be great if it was like a woman in like a Hillary Clinton pantsuit, maybe? - Yeah. - That would be fascinating, wouldn't it? - It would, yeah. - No, someone who... - Well, like a klepto. - What's that mean to you? - Kleptomania loves stealing, obsessed with stealing, a composite stealing, so it seems. - So on the lunch break for her job at KPMG. - KPMG, or PWC. (laughing) - Half of the brands are available. My dad actually worked for PWC, so... - I did it. - We're at PWC. - Well, that's one of the things about not working at radio. Every time you mention a brand, you actually have to say it. - Yeah, yeah. - We have to do it on the shoot of podcasts. - Yeah, and we probably would have to say all the brands were available for PWC if you want your financial consultant. - Yeah, other financial consultants are available. - Yeah. - Anyway, I'm more of a PWC than myself. - Yeah, for sure. - If you cut us open, et cetera, et cetera. (laughing) - We're PWC family. (laughing) - But yeah, so what did they say, the... - So it was clearly a homeless lady who was... - That's the end of the question, to me. - Skinny. - The skinny makes me feel sad. - Yeah, it does, actually. But yeah. - Homeless is enough to be like, 'cause if I was homeless, I would, and I saw 12 bin bags outside of someone's house, and they'll be around here, you know, I think it's a big event when we move out. - Yeah. - The kind of the close knows about it. I'd be like, they've probably thrown some stuff out that I could use. And to be honest, you've threw out quite a lot of camping equipment. - Yeah. - So like, fucking quids in, I think. - Well, I guess what was pretty... I wonder who's the same person both times, or did words get round? - So there's an absolute gold mine outside. (laughing) - Yeah, but I've already been through it with a gun of rebag it, and there's going to be more. - If it was the same person twice, I guess there was a kind of a heartbreak, because they'll rebag. They probably thought, "Oh, fresh gear." - Yeah. - They probably went back. - They probably bought an old repurposed gear. - And then they looked back and it was like, "This is the same old shit that I was..." - I'm looking at it on the tortoise. - "This is the same rubbish as last time." - I might just look at them. "Oh, this is rubbish." - "This is just rubbish, isn't it?" (laughing) "Who would've worn this?" - "Who's the new rubbish?" - "Who would've worn things up?" - Yeah, so we've had to keep the bin in the garden. - Yeah. - Which is a bleak. I mean, it's a bleak enough house. - Now it's just like piles of bin bags in the garden, which the foxes are probably gonna get out. - Yeah. If you caught someone roofing through your bins, I mean, you've got this on the Patreon about how much Old Testament justice you'd serve. - And I'm poor, though. - You're poor. - I'm really not. - You're very like, I'm listing for your society. - Yeah. - And I believe in giving what for. - You believe in giving a lady a cloth is what you'd believe in. - No, I wouldn't cart a lady. I would, I would give a, that's a ruddy scene. - A ruddy. - That was so much fun. - So much fun. - But I would be telling her off. - I think I'd go. - I'm never. - And that's all like a muster. I don't think it'd be. - I'd just wait for the scrap. - Yeah, like a, like a kind of a dog caught in the act of eating this pie. - Or bloody Ellie, are you doing? I'd want to. - Like, what do you, well, no, 'cause you know what she's doing? - No, what's it? - You know what she's doing? - Immense disrespect for the social contract, you know. - Well, the social contract hasn't exactly served her, particularly well. - True. - We don't have a stake in society. - The only thing is you can rifle through our bins, but can you do it so we don't have to repackage it? If they untied the knot, and then like dug in like a digger thing, and then re-tied it, God bless you. - 'Cause we watched documentaries at school about how evil Tesco's was because they put like poison on their bins to stop. - Oh yeah, yeah. - And I remember thinking like-- - Or Tesco's side. - Well, I get, well, part of me's like, well, maybe this isn't an aspect of the story you don't see. - You're really getting it older than that. - Yeah, maybe, maybe the, 'cause in my head-- - Poison in the bins. - Are they just chucking everything everywhere? And then someone has to clean that up. That's an element that I'd never thought about, you know. - Getting old. - Oh no, I've just been a victim. - You've moved out of a shit house. I was like, actually, I think Tesco should put more poison in the bins. 'Cause that must be a bloody hard thing to clear up on a regular basis. No, yeah, I suppose the mess angle. - I just never even thought about it. - How many times would it take for that to happen if we had to keep putting out there for you to put poison on the bin bags? - Once more. - Once more. - Three. - Three. - Yeah, it's a sign of madness doing the same thing twice, expect a different result. - It's true, yeah. But if we had to do it, 'cause we're gonna have to do it. - Are you insane, put poison on it? - Poison in the bin bags. - Poison them. - Yeah. - No, I don't know. - I wouldn't poison it, but I think I don't know what the ethics of fun traps, what about a stink bomb or something? - Fun traps, I like prank things. - Yeah. - A stink bomb. - Yeah. - So how, like a kind of-- - I guess this is what London does make do this to you. - Yeah. - Where you start-- - It's like a really liberal multicultural city. - And then you, well, you just have like really small-- - But then there's actually-- - Case by case moments of life. - When you actually interact with a stranger, it's all hell bracelets, it's kind of like, it's like the wild. - Well, 'cause, oh, your patties go through a lot of stuff with outside his window are the loudest for many people in the world. - Right. - They're just all day. - Yeah. - And he's got stink bombs. - He's got stink bombs. 'Cause they're just, all they do is light up his corner, play music, shouting, hitting each other. Yeah, yeah, one of them like hit a woman. - Was it an argument? - Yeah, but then she didn't even care when she got hit because she seemingly got hit so much. - No, I got side, is it? - And so maybe a stink, so he's getting stink bombs and I'm like-- - How's he engaged, has he engaged verbally? - No. - You can't go straight to stink bomb. Absolutely, no, I'd be on his side. - But what's, how much of an insult is a stink bomb? - You can't throw stink bombs at people. - It's like, it's like-- - You can throw just William. - That is one and it's the cat's way out. - You can't, you can't like not say anything and then just throw a stink bomb at someone. You've gotta give them a chance. - It's like you're in the B note. - Yeah, it is, but then it's also like, it seems like, look, as well, the Romanian, he's on the territory of a hate crime there. One wrong word. - It's not because he's Romanian. - I know, but bear in mind, they're hanging out there. - It has changed a few of the Romanians though. I'm like, naturally, I'm sure. So I'm just working on that. But naturally, if they're hanging out there, they have no, like, no one's complained about it, seemingly, and then someone just throws a stink bomb. Do you know what I mean? If he goes like, guys, can you shut the fuck up? You're here every night, well, says that a few times and then a stink bomb comes, that's like, I gave you a warning, here's the stink bomb. - Yeah. - So this is the last one of the studio. The boy's gone wild sign has been retired from the wall for those of you that aren't interested in podcasts. It's ceremony hanging in place of the elephant on the table. - I guess it's sort of like, I guess when Britain gave back Hong Kong, and there was sort of the lowering of the flag. - Yeah. - That's sort of what this is reminding me of, sort of changing the guard. - So are we giving back this studio? - Yeah, to be repurposed. - Well, Hong Kong was rented for 200 years. - I am just trying to talk about us leaving this in there. - I'm just trying to draw the comparisons. I guess this is going back to its... - Yeah, I guess we're... - It's almost like it. - We're like custodians. - Yeah, well, it's colonial as well, isn't it? We're kind of, we're leaving the country. There's been an independence riot of this room and we're leaving it. Yeah, but it's off the wall. There'll be no more podcasts of this view. - No. People listen to it anyway, don't we? - Yeah, I think so. - Why should people listen to it? - I mean, it is actually a real ball, like having to have any video element, to be honest. - Yeah, it would be a lot easier. - Think about just the audio thing. - Yeah. - And also how regularly I look like shit, even though it is video. - No, no, no, you look really good. - Thanks. Cheers. - I'm glad you said... - Everyone who says go, no. - I do look good. - Will you tell you look great? - No, you actually change my mind immediately. - Really great. - I look better than you regularly. - All the time. - You're ugly. - I'm a mean ugly boy. It's a cheaper poo face man. - I couldn't agree more. - Yeah. (laughing) So I think for many, I think for many it won't be, you know, that big a deal. - Yeah. - But will, yeah. Well, we don't really know what we're doing. Do the new one. - Yeah, I think there'll be quite a few little interim. - There's gonna be interim ones so it's not gonna look like how it's, 'cause it's gonna, I think it's gonna look a bit shit for a bit. - Yeah, yeah, I don't know if they care. - No. - Too much, yeah. - People are gonna freak out, 'cause even if we were like an hour late, for an episode, but it's still gonna come on the same day, an hour later, people are freaking out about timings. Whereas think about that like it's never gonna, it's never gonna look like this again. - What I imagine is like, this is just sort of like, an A up chat GBT rendering of-- - Is it GPT? - I couldn't care less. - Fair enough. (laughing) I genuinely couldn't care less. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Shut up. - Yeah. - First, that's justified. - We're trying to do an emotional thing. I was like, "What is it?" "Is it that?" - It just thaws. - If there was like a A.I. rendering of classic PGW listener. - Yeah. - Them listens to this episode. It would be like, I mean, they'll all be a bit warped 'cause it's A.I. - Yeah. - But it would be the sort of vague thing. But imagine. (laughing) I imagine it's kind of like, a guy who gets out of bed. He puts on the same, he has a cupboard with all the same T-shirts. - And then a mini fridge in his room with cans of monster. - And it's all the same flavor. - All the same flavor. - But he's got a routine, right? So it's Friday. His alarm bell rings at 8.45. - Horrible time. - And he gets out of bed. - He puts on, he boy's gone wild socks. - Yeah, right. - Available now. - He puts his boy's gone wild g-lay on. - Coming soon. - He puts his boy's gone wild tennis visor. He gets set up in his chair, right? And then he's got. - Can a monster in a slice of cheese? - Boy, he's got, he's got two giant like holders there. - Oh, I just realized why he said 8.45 'cause he's, I didn't realize it was gonna be a mega fan. - So he's waking up for the 9 a.m. - And this is all built into the routine, you know? This is, you know. - Yeah. - And then he gets there. - He's gaming so. - He likes to be at least two minutes before it drops at 9 a.m. Just so he has everything set up in case something happened. - Yeah. - And he waits for the next two minutes just like this. - Does he, no, he doesn't refresh 'cause he's been there too often. The soon, he looks at the clock, it hits nine and then that refresh bang. - He clicks on it and then immediately dies. - Yeah. - His brain, he has an aneurysm, he has a stroke. - So that, that, that kneeling works. (laughing) - That's what I see. - It doesn't work because we're still in the same. - Oh, no, not this one then, the next one. - Well, to be fair with the sign down, that's enough for him to die. - No, that will, that will give him up. - That'll do. - No, but he also won't. - No, what's his name? - It's, well, it's AI. So this is not a real person. This is, this is crushing all the data of all our fans to create an organ. - It would be something like a rom, rom. - It would be something more like Glem drew. - Glem. (laughing) - Glem. - His name's Glem. Glem. That's it. Glem. Glem. - I don't like that. - They've combined all the names and AI has rendered Glem. - If that was-- - So this is not a real person, but if you crush together all of them, this is what their daily routine looks like. - I think the AI rendering of our, the average fan, I think would make me want to quit. - I don't know, to be fair, you know, I make fun of the fans a lot. I'm, I'm very, it could have been a lot worse. And every time I meet podcast fans on the right. - It's true, they're always your own sexy. - They're great, they're hot. - You put this image in my mind that they're all-- - I think that sounds-- - That's all through most of the internet fans. - Yeah, you can see exactly why. Just the horrible-- - For the boys in the world, it's normally, it's hot chicks, but let's, to be honest, I don't know if we're getting more hot chicks. Like we had like a big influx. There was a moment when it was 50/50. - Yeah. - But the fellas are taking over. - The fellas are really taking over. - It's January 6th. - Yeah. - It's happening to our audience. - Yeah. - It's a lot-- - Men have stormed the gate and they're refusing to leave, and they're sitting in our chairs. - They're taking a shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, no, that's true. - That's true. - But yeah, so we're gonna have some interim episodes for a bit where, as before I actually go to Edinburgh, but we'll get podcasts out. - So yeah, it's gonna be a bumpy couple of-- - It's gonna be a bumpy month. - Couple of months, two months, right? 'Cause then bro-- - Oh God, yeah. - We're batch cooking. - We're batch cooking. - We're gonna revamp, and it's gonna be better than ever. - And I guess-- - Let's leave some mystery. - Yeah, 'cause that's like a remarkable thing. - But I mean, the plan with September is to make change us so big that we have an entirely new demographic. - Barely unrecognized all these boys come wild. - So anything that you like to-- - We're not gonna host it. We're gonna produce it and edit it, and we're gonna bring in some different people. But it's a big revamp, but yeah, time to move on. - Good bye, now, like-- - Well, you gotta, yeah, I guess we should say some astute things about-- - Well, I wanted to do a clip show for this. - Yeah, well, it's like, in your head, what was the classic picture? - It would be like, oh, and of course, we all remember that time. - But is it like, in friends, when they're all sat around? - A sitcom clip show, but with this, it'll be a fake episode, to be honest with you, what do you mean, a bad idea? I don't know, it would be, 'cause it would be a fucking nightmare to edit. But yeah, it'll be like, oh, yeah, and then that reminds you of the time when I got, I can't even think of a single moment at this moment. (laughing) Years, four years. - How many episodes have we done here? So-- - Yeah, it's basically four years, we've seen-- - It's basically 200 episodes here, 'cause it's-- - What are we on? - I think we're about 230. - Right. - Well, a lot more than 30 episodes is 30 weeks. - No, 'cause 33 episodes were done in my shed. So it's basically, we're just leaving out, we've done about 200 episodes right here. - That's annoying. - What? - It would have been good to do like episode two on it. - Yeah. - And then a new place, like it's-- - But it might be. - It might be. - Who cares? - I don't. - Have a look. - But no, yeah, like, look, at such classic moments as when I take the cut to a plate, it'd be something. - I mean, it's actually every moment of the podcast that we've had. It's not-- - Yeah, I know. - So it could be anything. - Yeah, exactly, but that's what clip shows do. They do the whole stuff. - When you got punched in the face. - The face. - You know. - Uh, I don't know. The felling of the sick of all the gap tree. - Yeah, you know, you name it. - You rust. - I remember rust. And then we'd cut to-- - And then we'd cut to-- - A super cut. - And then we'd be like, wow. Wasn't that something? - And speaking of rust, the trial does start, I mean, it feels very fitting that the podcast is in complete flux at the moment. And then the kind of the biggest week in our history happens as well. I mean-- - If ever we needed an infrastructure behind us. - If all the plans of men and of mice and men, what is that? What's the-- do you know what I'm talking about? - Yeah, it's a quote. - Yeah. - That's as much as I've got. - It's a burns poem. If all the plans of mice and men were laid to rest, I'd be super-- - I reckon this should be our last word. - I love being into the studio. - It's beginning to look-- - Okay. - Now, it's beginning to look a bit crisp bald beneath. - We should finish on a pun. I'm trying to think of why this would go. - Um, but yeah. - The real trial is on. I don't know. Is there anything specific? - Well, I saw-- I watched the news today. It might be happening right now. - Ah! - And by the time this episode-- - Where is it? In New York? - I don't know. - I saw footage of him in the hearing. - That's fun. - So I was watching BBC News and they were doing coverage of it. - Yeah. - Obviously, it's fake news media, so they're not going to do real coverage. - Naturally. - Yeah. - Where do you get your news nowadays? - I get my news. - The back of cereal boxes. (laughing) - It's kind of right. - Yeah! - It's kind of seems to be fine. But that bloody squirrel just can't find his acorn at all. - It keeps getting lost in that maze. (laughing) - Well, you did just read the news paper. (laughing) - You read the news. (laughing) - On the back of the next week, Boggs. (laughing) - Well, I can never get into the next week's cereal, even though, I actually, what I did, I say a lie. I did and have done for years. I don't need cereal anymore, really. Not a choice, just, you know, whatever. - But I-- - She's growing up. - They do just look like little balls of poo, don't they? - That's my issue. - Robbie. - But-- - Do you know what I'd say? - And there's a bunny on the front. - Do you know what, like, a counter point? - Rabbit shit, right, looks weirdly edible, because it looks like Nesquik. - Absolutely true. - So I'd say it potentially-- - No, it's chicken or the egg, isn't it? - Yeah. - Nesquik or the rabbit shit? - Nesquik is the reason. - I would say-- - If it's rabbit shit looks appetizing and that's why you're like Nesquik, that is a dangerous thing to think. - I would argue that rabbit shit looks like Nesquik. - And you argue it far too often. (laughing) Far too often. - No, I agree. - But no, there's something-- (laughing) - 200 episodes of this. - 200 episodes. Maybe we'll make a change. - Maybe it's the truth. - Maybe we can leave toilet humor in the toilet. We'll leave toilet humor in the toilet of Robry Street. - Yeah. - We can say what we are now, because we're not there anymore. - Yeah. There we go. - Robry Street. - Well, but maybe we'll get a blue plaque. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - We'd have to, we'd probably have to invent something. - Just like, yeah, no, I don't know. - Well, this show would have to be massive. - Yeah. We're not, we're nowhere near now. - We'd, we'd, we'd, we'd, we'd. - They're not gonna install it tomorrow. - Would, would, would Joe Rogan get a blue plaque if he was-- - That's right. - Does Ricky de Vase get a plaque? - So Bob Marley lived in-- - We just said three different people in life. (laughing) - Bob Marley, yeah, but that's-- - Bob Marley lived in Chelsea for a year and he got a blue plaque. - That's, yeah, that's, that's fair. - So I'm just saying, you know, I guess it's like how-- - There's a lot of other trajectory. - But no, but how do Ricky de Vase got one? It's like the biggest UK comedian, that's the question. - Well, yes, you have to die. - So we'll never know. - Well, we-- - Who's dead? - We'll know. - Who's dead? - Joe Vase will get one. Joe Vase will get-- - You think he will get a blue plaque. - Yeah, okay. - I think there's also like, how long you've lived there versus how big you are as a star. So Bob Marley, massive star, didn't live their own long, still gets a blue plaque. - Yeah, absolutely. - Like they're scraping to get his name in there. - Yeah, four years. - And then I think there's some people who like invented like train signals but lived in the same house forever. All right, you get a blue plaque, do you know what I mean? - 'Cause of the, yeah, yeah, I guess. - You're not just, you're not the guy invented fucking, I don't know, traffic lights or whatever. - Well, that's a pretty big venture, to be honest. - You're not given a blue plaque for where he stayed in a flat for six months, do you know what I mean? - No, he has to. - He has to have lived there forever. - Well, ideally he come up with traffic lights in that place. - Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. - Looking out at one of those windows thinking, do you know what we do? - The risk of being incredibly boring, as we continue this. - You're goosebumps. - Not at all. - My hairs have got inwards into my blood. What if the guy came over for like a month, invented traffic lights? He lived in Manchester, he comes to London and events traffic lights in that flat. He goes, "Eureka, traffic lights." Now, it's just then he moves out. He was there for like a staycation. - Well, if there was an iconic story, - Well, if there was an iconic story like Eureka, Eureka obviously was the Greek guy in the bath. - That let's not confuse it, yeah. - But if part of the press of the traffic lights was like-- - That's where we came up. - Well, it was more like a lot of-- - Okay. - There's media attention outside. - There isn't media attention. - There isn't media attention. - Forget that bit, there isn't. - They're like, "Oh, this is brilliant. "How'd you come up with this?" And he's like, "Well, it's a funny story." - Yeah. - If there's a funny story, there's not that. - Well, then no. - Then no. (laughing) I guess that's the end of that bit. - What was the, what's Russ? So he's, what did you hear about the years? You said something about the years of it? - I think he's at risk, so we've got some stakes now. He's at risk of going away for manslaughter for four years, I think. - If Baldur's gets four years-- - Well, no, I just watched the Denzel Washington film flight where he was at risk of going away for four years. So it's a year and a half actually. - Yeah, a year and a half. - A year and a half. - It was involved two hearings-- - Good start though, anti-hype about-- - Potentially gross negligence. - Right, yeah. - You know, actually quite similar. I wouldn't mind Denzel Washington playing Baldwin in a biopic. - Yeah, that'd be good. - And what, yeah. - We've already been through all this going. We've done that, a billion times. (laughing) I don't know, he's appeared in court for a pre-trial hearing yesterday. - Completely shaven. - Completely, yeah, you would. - He would. - He would, wouldn't you? - He's proven. - You know what big, big, bushy beard implies? - Negligence. - Negligence. - And so there's the kind of dash cam looking footage of him on set, massive beard, which is the character to be fair, but it implies that he's very stressed. - What, you can't even shave your face. - Of course, he killed the bit, not the bitch, the lady. (laughing) - Gikes, sorry. (laughing) - But then him being completely shrove. - Troven? - Troven. (laughing) - A bountiful shroven body. (laughing) - Does make him look, one silly, two stupid, and silly and stupid. - Three uglier, well, he's not really meant to be shrove. - No. - 'Cause he's a hairy rugged sexier. - Yeah, that's why he needs that. - 'Cause he's one of the guys who can like, he pulls off the classic dad bod well. - Yeah. - So if you like to do the dad bod you need to, you need to be non-shrove. - So I don't know if that's going to work against him. (laughing) - 'Cause he looks like a shroven sheep. Or like, like, yeah. - Yeah. - No, like, as you shave an alpaca, they'll lose a lot of their. - Yeah, their charm. - Yeah, and so I think he's going to lose it. - Very friendly. - Yeah. - And it's also like, well, it's a bit suspicious. - If you look at his hairstyle, you'll be, I think it was a mistake. I know what it was going for. - Yeah. - But it's a mistake. - Okay. - It definitely works against him. And also interesting, he is not being charged as a producer. - That's what I think I would send this morning. - So the producer role is being outed. I don't know if they're going on the same lines as us, which is fucking out at Baldwin. He's got better shit to do. - Yeah. - But maybe they are. - Maybe they are. - Maybe they're like, he was in 30 Rock for like seven seasons. - Yeah. - But as we discussed- - He shouldn't be across paperwork. - No. - And it won't be. - He's a wise man. - Yeah. - Of course he's not. - He's not even a money man. He's a superstar. - Obviously the armor. - He's a face man. - Obviously the armor is in charge of this. And she's rotten in jail right now. - She's probably snuck in skunk in her arse hole. - And fake and real bullets and confusing them at the time. - I saw a TikTok from prison just before this started. - I've seen too many from prison. - Yeah, and I guess I never really thought about, in my head, I guess, 'cause you watch prison films. - Not me specifically. - But you, one, watches prison films. - Right, yeah. - I kind of feel that they don't have tellies and phones, but they, obviously they do. - Most of the prison films you're watching are in like America, hardcore maximum security prison. - Or it's in like the 50s or something. - Yeah. - And because no one, there aren't like amazing stories and minimum security prisons with people who are in their attacks. No one's likely to get it. - Minimal. (laughing) - The most freedom out of anywhere in the country. - This is Norwegian prison where the PlayStation all day. - One man is in here for tax evasion. (laughing) - Yeah, so that's why. But no, I've seen a few, I watched Gordon behind bars, not that long ago. - Gordon Brown. - Gordon Ramsay. - Oh, is he put away? - No, he was teaching us a cook. You know, teacher matter fish, et cetera. - Gordon behind bars, was it good? - No, it wasn't one of his better ones. - No, he brings it obviously. And yeah, there you see the, well in UK prisons it's more relaxed anyway, a little bit. I don't know. - Well, the works were for Curie ones. - But this one, it looked dodgy. Like the light was flickering. It was HMS one's worth, which is pretty bad. - That's down the road, isn't it, really? - Yeah. - And I think that's a pretty high security one. - Yeah. - It's a pretty big deal. And it was during the England game, right? - Yeah. - So the prison cell looked how I imagined it looked. It looks how it does in the movies, right? - Yeah. - But he does have a telly in there. - Yeah. - And he's watching the England game and they're all watching the England game. I think they're all watching it individually in their cell. And it was just after Trent's penalty went through. - And it went through so far. So everyone's just screaming. It sounds like it's a horror film basically. - Yeah. - So what you're saying is take TVs away from prisoners and put poison in the bins. - No, I'm just like, oh, I guess I didn't really think about it. - Yeah. - But I didn't know that you could be in prison, you know, you're watching telly and posting TikToks. - The posting of the TikToks is me. - See, there's a thing I've seen a few. - Like, 'cause like surely you shouldn't be allowed to post a TikTok, surely. 'Cause that's like, you know, you can commit more crimes. - Is that the people who are not criminals? - I don't, I'm not really going out of a moral point of view, but I feel like we shouldn't. - I was in prison. Yeah, I'd start doing like Jack Joseph style. - Get ready with me. - Stitches. - I'd do like comedy sketches, but like never mention that I'm in prison. - Yeah, make it really relatable just to prison life. No one else gets it. - No, don't bring up that I've been in prison. It's just the same sort. It's been relatable. - So you're doing like Harry Potter sketches, but just in the canteen of HMS One's work, never mention. - We're just kind of more in my room. Maybe I'm doing like football content as well, where I'm talking, you know. - I mean, what else are you going to do? - And it's more like, is that guys? - Me in casting. (laughing) I think he might be in casting, right? - It's all right. - I've actually never, Italian back was just. - Yeah. - Like, it's just all the same stuff. - 'Cause the setting of those sketches aren't really important. But as opposed to there being like his girlfriend or sister behind camera, it's going to be another image of Harry the Queen. (laughing) - To retire to organize crime and grievous bodily harm. - To be like, can you zoom in a bit? You've got to go in and out, like, you know, make it kind of dynamic. - Yeah, no, there's been more prison content, which, you know, what I'm yet to. I don't think, I don't, I feel like, you know. - In some ways, I, yeah. - But then you should. Accountability is always a good thing. - Yeah, and I guess, in some ways, the real prison is our phones. - Oh. - Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? 'Cause if I'm in prison, they take on my phones and they're like, oh, great, I'm free. Do you know what I mean? - Yeah, finally get to see the world. You come out of prison being like, - What? (laughing) - That was the best social media details I've ever had. (laughing) - Yeah, I'm going away for 50 years. - You're looking at one picture on the wall. - Three council manslaughter. Hey guys, just warning you, I'm going to be in a social media team. (laughing) - If you want to message me just to fly for a while, you just got to send mail to my warden. (laughing) - Don't include any shop objects and anything, so I'm going to get through processing. But yeah, just fancy a bit of a cleanse, but I'm in the middle. - I need a bit of a step back. - That is a fucking great way to inform your followers that you're going to prison. - I do, like, just need a kind of step back and reflect, you know, get away from the screens. - Or just anyone who, any prisoner is just a social, just go go on social media, don't let them. - Mum, Rust, I saw Louis Theroux went on the Oven's podcast recently. - Yeah, and he was, I quite liked his energy. - Yeah, yeah, no, they look really good. - I did slag off through a little bit, and I think he's come around, I'll come around, 'cause there's a period where I was off with him. - We did, I listened to him a bit, he believed his own hype, he was getting a bit smug, but what I liked about this is that he was being a caddy and bitchy. - Yeah. - And I was like, you know what, it's nice. You got off your high horse and now you're in the dirt with the pigs. - I wouldn't describe him as in the dirt with the pigs, necessarily, but, no, 'cause I heard him on one off menu and I was like, there's the only off menu I've listened to for some reason, but he was suspicious. - Yeah, odd. But he was, I didn't like his vibe on there, but I've solely judged him on that one appearance, other than, 'cause, you know, he's the nation's sweetheart and he was firmly within my heart, during that, when I was watching the old Docs, but then, yeah, I didn't realize, you know, pull the curtain down behind Thiru. - Yeah. - Let's do a documentary. - Let's do a weekend. - Let's do a dog. - We're doing. - I don't love it. - No, it's not great. - I was trying to say that. Well, I was kind of saying the same thing about (laughing) documentary of behind the mask, Thiru. - Thiru the mask, Thiru the looking glass. - Thiru the needle. - There it is. - That's good, that's good. - Thiru the looking glass. The seek, Thiru the looking glass, the dark secret behind Britain's most beloved documentary filmmaker. - And what's that? - It's like an expose on Thiru. - But what's the... - That he's just a bit like me sometimes. (laughing) - Dog dog. - Yeah. - You had a parrot on off menu. - You thought he was incredibly rarely made. - Listen to this, he'll clip off menus. - Slightly more than you'd expect. - He talks a bit, you know, he's quite arrogant. (laughing) But so, Russ, he was on, he was on Thea Vonspok. - Yes. - I'm a fan of both of them. - Yeah. - Although we have previously slaved Thiru off. But yeah, he's making a mess. And yeah, I saw a clip from it. I didn't see the whole thing. So again, I'm judging this off a two minute clip or something. - Hey, that's what the pods are about. That's what they come up with. - But they were talking about, and you know, they were going with a bit. They were rolling with a bit. So, you know, we've been there. There are a few times here. - Two minutes. (laughing) - We're there right now. - Are there everyone's going on? (laughing) - Please kill me. (laughing) - So, they were doing a bit about, you know, Hollywood seems to be the only place where you could kill someone and still have a career. And they were talking about, they were talking about rust. So, my ears pricked up as a ball went through for. And at the end of the clip, Theo was a bit like, - I do think you got the clips like you're wrong. I don't think that's what they said. - Well, no, so at the end, Theo was like, at the end, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy that they've got like the armorer rather than the guy who pulled the trigger. That's what you said. You're shaking your head, but that doesn't work on a podcast. - No, no, no. I'm agreeing with you. - Right, okay. I'm shaking my head at Theo 'cause I'm glad. I know that your pod isn't entirely focused on the trial and for us. So, you won't be across the detail like we are, but you couldn't be more wrong. - Well, no, no. - You couldn't be more wrong. - But he isn't across the detail. Like, he knows all the details. Just from that statement, he knows the details. He's making like a value judgment saying, well, he pulled the trigger, so he deserves to go down. - I just think. - We've got to get more people on the ballwind side. - Well, it should be more like, you know that the utilitarian philosophical problem of the-- - Why is the trolley problem coming in? - The trolley's come on so much. - And I think someone else brought the trolley problem as well, the trolley problem-- - No, I did laugh. - You did, but I think someone else did out and about-- - Two trolley problems in pop-up. - Well, baby brought the trolley problem. - Baby didn't bring up the trolley problem. - Yeah, she wouldn't. She doesn't fucking know. - She brought the shopping trolley problem. Can I have some more cake in here? - No, take that high five, Matt. - Didn't realize the cake was coming in. - So I would draw the high five. (laughing) - When did, was the trolley problem, I can't say problem, problem, problem, problem. - The mouth problem, problem, problem, problem. - I like that, simple but effective. Was that on the Patreon? Who cares? It doesn't matter, the trolley problem. How does it apply to this? - So go to the Patreon. - Yeah, we'll see you there. - It's kind of one of those debates, you know, I would bring that in a philosophy class. Is it the armor or the guy who pulls the trigger? You know, it's sort of-- - But I think it's so fucking obvious that it's not even worth, like it's not even, it can't even be compared to the trolley problem because there is no real quandary here. - Not to dwell on rust. - Quandary and, well, fucking hell. Quandary and dwell in the space of 10 seconds is pretty. - One of Baldwin's defenses is I didn't even pull the trigger. And I feel like-- - Don't even get down that route. Don't even get down that route. Be like, I'm acting, someone handed me a gun. - I bet you did pull the trigger Baldwin, and I feel this is the lie that could topple everything. I think you had it in the bag, and this is what-- - You just-- - You got scared. - Deloise should be like, it doesn't matter if he pulled the trigger or not. He was acting, if any of us were here, we're acting, and then had to shoot someone off screen with a gun, you're gonna pull the fucking trigger. You're just gonna presume that the gun wasn't loaded. - And I don't like that he thinks the trigger pulling is gonna be, it just doesn't even matter. - I think maybe they go for the, he didn't even pull the trigger, but that's going for the faulty gun thing. - The fact is if he's not on trial as a producer, it doesn't matter. I don't think any of that matters, because like clearly, it clearly, the gun shouldn't be loaded by the time he gets to Adam Baldwin. Clearly, that's not his fault. So if they're trialling him as a producer, he could be involved in that apparatus. If he's just an actor, no. - Our kind of view is that it's not actually that interesting. That's kind of our take. - Yeah, it's crazy that this has gone to trial. - We're surprised that we talk about it so much, because our real hot take is this is actually incredibly boring. - It's, yeah, because it's so easy. It's like, well, obviously, it's innocent. - It's the woman doing crack right now. - Yeah. - You know the lady that smubbed it in loads of drugs, got confused between the two bullets, had a case that includes she had a bucket. - She has a fake raster hat on. Those are things offensive. - Wait, does she? - No, she's right. - She might as well, she might as well. - But I was like, how did I miss that? - That's how much weed she's smoking. She has a fake raster hat on. - And she actually had a box mixed. - And she was alive, and fake ammunition. - Case closed. - Yeah, she has a ring pants, and she plays hacky sack in between takes. - Yeah, she's a killer. - And they're just shocked bullets at people. They'll be like, yeah, use those ones, they should be clean. - Yeah, well, we'll see. Well, this is the trial, it is annoying, but actually it gives us good content for a while to get through these interim episodes as well. - A piece behind the wizard's curtain. - Precisely. - Don't let them, no wonder's lying. - Very few. - The election, should we talk about the bloody election? - There's a new king. - The lucky. - The king is dead. - Let's just double check. - There's only the king. - There's only, you know, 'cause this is a, we've done a good vice, you know, cash us an alone, euros. - Well, the election's the big thing, right? - Yeah, yeah. - We should talk about that. - And then we could call it the election. We'll do 10, we'll do 10 men's at the election. - The election. - They said, what about the election? - Shockwave sent through Britain. - So, I watched a tiny bit of the election coverage. There was, I watched it up until like midnight, so I didn't see any seats getting called, but I did see something which was all, no, I did see one seat game. I know it was the projections, right? So I saw it during the exit poll, yeah. And they got a Tory MP, obviously they have lots of different guests on throughout the evening. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And at the beginning of the night, they had, this Tory MP, I forgot his name was, he had dark hair in glasses. Jacob Reesmog might as well been. - Sir Jacob, yeah, might as well. - Sir Jacob, what's the planning difference for people anyway? - But it was awesome because they had exit polls and they, no, to him live, they told him that the probability of him winning his seat was under 1%, which was awesome, 'cause they went through each, they were going through all the politicians, the probability of them winning their individual seats. And he sat there, he took it well. I mean, but it was kind of like, I thought it was interesting to know how the BBC did it, 'cause they had the big-- - Who was it? - Was it the lady who does politics live? 'Cause she's got a firm hand. - Well, it was actually multiple people because they go to the government-- - It was an honest account on it, I didn't. - I was at some point. But there was a lady with a big board who's pointing at the exit polls, right? And she's going through individual elections seats for the ability of winning. So it's like, oh, Ian Duggan Smith, 48%, he might lose it, he might not, da-da-da-da-da, you know? And she goes through it and then she points to his and then goes, yeah, and sorry Daniel or whatever his name is. It's a shame, but you've got 1%, you know? And just like moving on like that, but I don't know, I guess you should, but part of me is like-- - Well, leave him alone. - Wait till he's finished and then you can talk about it. Do you know what I mean? It felt a bit-- - He's come there. - He's-- (laughing) - Does that slight exhale of breath be like-- - You're like-- (laughing) - Yeah, I guess so. - You know. - But it's a cut, you know, it's election night, you face the facts, it's a cut-throat world. - And then where's Streeting, so I don't, I've-- - I think it kind of looks like this. - There's so many new politicians I haven't got. - Do you know what I mean? - I don't know who any of these guys are anymore, but where's Streeting? - He goes like that. - Yeah, and is he-- - Is he a homosexual gentleman? - I bloody know if he was. I'd have his number if he was. - 'Cause he gives me vibes that he's a homosexual gentleman. - Where's Streeting gay question mark? (laughing) Streeting had previously left the Labour Party, 'cause he approached his decision to enter the Iraq War, but argued that there was-- Streeting came out as gay in the second year of university. - Oh, you know, he reads us a word. - Gaydar on point. (laughing) - Clap for the gaydar. - He said boat, and he was trying to do an analogy about boat, about like the election. - Ah, yes. - And he said-- Yeah, and he said boat 15 times out of 30 words, he said boats. - 50. - That is, that's not true, isn't it? - No, it's not true, yeah, 'cause-- - I said I was gonna stop my boat. - I'm gonna give you a chance to do that. Here's 30, you've got 30 words, you've got all 20, just do every other one, well, you've got-- That chart, and you can't just say, then I will, it's-- - It's a boat that-- - It needs to be every other word. - All right, the boat, no, it doesn't have to be every other word. - Ah, thank you. - Yeah, are you gonna stack boats at the end? You can't stack boats, no stacking boats, 'cause you can't say boat boat, then no-- - I can say boat boat. - I'm gonna give you a hand here, you could use boat as a verb. - To boat this boat election. - No, that doesn't make any sense. - It's a boat election. - Why is it a boat election? - Well, it might be. - Okay, you're fine, yeah, to boat this boat election. - It's a boat election. - Yeah. - Boats. - No. - To boat this boat election. - Boats must boat. (laughing) - To not boat this boat election. - Boats mustn't boat. (laughing) - Boating boats. - Is boating count? - What is boating? - Can you say boating? - Yeah, boat, no, it should be boats, yeah. Boat boats, you could say boats, but not boat. (laughing) - To boat, okay. - Yeah, we've done enough. - That was a pretty good stab. 'Cause if you fair, that should have been like, that should have knocked off the result of the general election as a top headline. If he managed to do every other word in a boat, best of all, I'd be like, that is, that is-- - Well, and if it made sense, you know. - This is a boat election. That's why happens when it's boat elections. We're choosing who's gonna be the next boat. - We've been saying it for months. If there's anything, this is gonna be a boat election. Decided by the boats for the boats. - So how do you feel? - Yeah. - No, good. I'm optimistic about it. I feel quite, you know. This is a nice, you know. - Did you vote for labor? - That is, none of your ball. - Yes, I did. - I changed my mind last minute. - Did you? - I'd gone in 'cause you'd swam me around to labor. - Yeah. - Just saying, oh bloody hell. - I was like, just shut up until you get a belly. - And then, you know, I was... You kind of actually intimidated me, and there's voter intimidation, actually. - Is that actually not the first time I've done that? I mean, I made my mum vote for Corbin. - Did you? - Yeah. - You intimidate yourself. - Yeah. - You were like to intimidate people. - I was my second count of voter fraud, 100%. - And I was walking down with you and Adam, and it just felt like, we're just, you know, sleepwalking into a, into a labor super majority. (laughing) So I voted Tory in the end. - No, I voted... - Green. - I voted green last minute. - Yeah. - And it was just, it was just a, a two fingers. - A two fingers to every fat head. - And it's just, it's kind of getting them points on the board, might as well. - Yeah. - You know. - Maybe might as well, I do know, so is it like... - Obviously, they're never gonna be in power. - This is a good protocol. - So they had a million spending pleasures, you know. They can just say what they want, right? - Well, that's cut, yeah, that's kind of the point. - No, they're not really. - You can say, I've got, I'm gonna spend a million pounds. - No, it's kind of one of us. - Kisses. - It's kind of one of, for the left, the first kind of optimistic election we've had in a long time. So I just kind of wanted to get involved with the actual practical thing that's gonna happen here. And there we go. - So I'm like, here, start, start. - So I'm like, here, start my heart. - When they're longer, when they're longer the party of protest, we're the party of, it's not great. - Power. - Power, power. - If you've got a starboard. - I need a starboard. - It's kind of, he goes sharp, but... - But at the end, it's like a very tight, I don't care. - Yeah, yes, I just about, no, I'm not gonna get it. - Yeah, it is just, and it's weird that he, so the big thing is that he got less votes than Corbyn. I know, sort of skews the data, but... - Are worst elections, the best election. - Spores the broth. - Spores the broth, we don't use, skews the data on this podcast. - Yeah, it was, yeah. Too many, too much data. - Too much data. - Spores the election analysis. - What skews the data? - Have you noticed, does it feel like the sound in this group? - It's weird. - It's weird, it's changed. - It's echo-y. - It feels... - Because there's no shit around. - Yeah, because it's empty. - Yeah. - It's felt more, I guess, I feel more exposed. - Yes. - It's more like, what are we actually talking about? - What are we doing? - There's been, actually, yes, there's been like, three moments I've gone. - Wow. - I guess I'll... - Of course you hear yourself again. - Yeah. - 'Cause I found something. - You hear it, it's a vampire. - Oh, it's fucking stupid. - What's the point of that? - I just, I wasn't even funny. - It's fucking wrong with you. No, I'm feeling moderately optimistic. - Yeah, he's ready to get the job done. - He's ready to get the job done. No, but I don't know. Also, it's a good step. We need to get the bloody Tories out. - It's fun to, the idea that they're losing seats, that was great. - Yeah, yeah. Well, I was like the thing in France. - Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. But it is, I don't know whether I'm like, buying the mainstream media's shit that they're chucking at my mouth, and I'm just gobbling it up. - He loves it. - Bubble gobble? - Well, you're an LBC dad now, aren't you? You wake up, you listen to Nick Ferrari, you say, well, that's bloody sensible. - Well, that makes a lot of good sense to it. - Yeah. - Whereas, I'm a heavy metal punk knight, so. - What if we all lived in a hot punk ring? - Yeah, what if we fucking burned down the shawl? I went back to fucking, you know, living in a sand pit. - Because you get your news of the bag of cereal packets. So that's, that's exactly why. - No, but I don't know whether, yeah, it's obviously actually, the reality is, is impossible to tell. But there is a, like, he does seem a fuckload, more competent, just as a basic. - He's a smart man. - A smart man. - Yeah. - Just as a basic lead. - Is it like, just the best. - I'm not talking about the party, well, is he? Anything, I'm just talking about how he presents as a leader, which isn't actually the most important thing, obviously. But, he seems far more put together. The way he's been answering questions thus far, I'm like, he is actually answering them. - It's quite nice. - It's not to have a carousel of, of clowns. - Oh, wow. - Wow. - Give us some title. - I need to work with a private eye. I need to do this. - Yeah, carousel of clowns comes to it, clothes. - Yeah. - The circus is out of town. - Yeah. - And they're kicking out bearded ladies. - And, so the... - That was that. - The chance with Starmer is that, because he ran such an uninspiring campaign, and that was super tactical, some people have been saying that it's a, he's like a Trojan horse, right? So he's gonna be like, oh, I've got no, I just believe everything that everyone else believes, don't I, and then he gets in, and then it's fucking party time. And then it's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna elect, you know, - Release all the laws. - The law to be foreign secretary. You know, really good. - Every person gets three TAs. - Every person gets three TAs. - Greta Thermberg becomes queen. - Yeah, queen, right. Yeah. - Yeah, that's a problem. - But now I'm in. - No one can stop me. (laughing) - But, I don't know. - The cabinet, so we got, we got three honeys, and David Lammy. - Three honeys. - Yeah. - It was more than three honeys. - No, in the top, the-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's honey central. It's honey central. - It's fair play like. - David Lammy's got his own LBC show. I wonder if he'll continue that. He's foreign sec now, isn't he? - Probably too busy. - Probably too busy. - I'd hope so. - I hope he doesn't. - Yeah, I'll be like, can you not? Can you stop talking to me at drive time? - No, well, oddly I get the boat metaphor in a way. - Yeah. - Is this the time for properly dreaming of the future that we want? Or is this the time to stabilise the boat a bit? - It's true. - Because this fucking is chaos. Like, I think we need a first, okay. - It's really boring. - Things aren't going to absolute shit. And then we could be like, right, let's do this stuff. - And it is true. It feels like a lot of the far left, they're kind of saying this, but they also deeply know it's like, until we get any money, we can't actually do anything. - At some point in us doing it, like-- - So we kind of have to just sort of do really boring normal. This kind of has to be business as usual for ages. - Yeah, well, it's just like admin work for a bit. - Yeah. - You know, stabilise the shit. - Or like, revolution, we burn all that. Like that's kind of what they would be saying, right? - Yeah, well, it depends. - Yeah. - I don't know, I don't know. 'Cause usually I'm kind of in that mind, but I don't know why this, I'm not really there for this one. - I just want-- - Well, there's no really-- - It's nice to have a bit of cash. - Bit of wangar. - Bit of wangar going about it. - Bit of dosh, yeah. Well, yeah, anyway. - But what do you think about the election, the first pass of the post and all that? 'Cause it is kind of mad that he's got less boats and then he's got the most seats ever or whatever. - Yeah, he's got like 30% of the boat share. So third of the boat share and then two thirds of the seats. - I think it's become, first of all suppose it's kind of less relevant in a more globalised world, in some ways. - Because the whole idea is that you have someone directly representing the interests of your, like your parish, you know what I mean? It was like a bit more for like villages and-- - It's like the sheriff. - It is, it is to be like the sheriff. - It is, like we need someone to stick up for what way you want in hunks made. That's very positive. Yeah, you know, you've got, but obviously that still needs to happen to quite a lot of extents, but that's like, for the bigger places you've got mayors, you know? I'm not really sure how much we need, like a voice for-- - Yeah, is for us getting deep down into clacked in local matters. - No. - No, he's not. - No, no, but that's, look, you obviously need some of that, but that was the argument for the first pass, I suppose. - I mean, where is he still? - The lemonson guy, he cared a lot about constituents. - It's true, it's true, almost too much. - And that's probably what's going to hold them back from having a, I probably wouldn't want to be foreign set, 'cause he'd be so worried about trip hazards on lemonson roadblocks. - Pointing apart how it's going. - This is unacceptable, it's like, are you in charge mate? - We had a local MP called Matt Weston, Labor MP, who we voted in, it'd been Tories, the students, came together and we voted in. And he was a great, you know, he had a real love for public service, and he posted on his Facebook picture. It was one of my favorite political pictures ever, which is him on lemonson high street, there was like a small, how do you describe it, like the bottom of a metal pole, jutting out? - Yeah, that's a bit, that's the only way to start a name for that. - And then he was crouched in sort of a Jeremy Karl style crowd, very concerned. - I've never seen anyone more concerned who's pointing at it, and it was about-- - Which is pre-election. - No, this is him just doing, you know, just general politics. And it was about the trip hazards on lemonson high street. - I didn't trip once. - No, not at all. But that's the kind of passion. - Yeah, that's what first past the post was built for. - Yeah. - To sort out like potholes. (laughing) - Obviously there is still local brands there, but-- - That's true, but like it feels like, you know, what, I don't know, what's more important having like your local voice represented or having a more representative national voice in the guys or girl who's actually in charge. - I reckon if reform and Tories got together and they made fragile leader, I think he would win next election. - Well, he's already thinking about the next election. This guy is Mr. Politics. - Brain, Gould 2020, he's 28. - No. - No. - No, so we, let's wrap up. We're gonna go to the picture now, I guess, sort of like, have you nice to like sing "Old Langseye" or something? - Yeah. - Well, it's more, I want-- - It's a little better, well-- - I want like a little boat with a candle on it and it sort of puts it out. - Let's do this. - Or like a Viking burial of the podcast. - Let's solemnly look at the sign. - Okay. - And then edit in. We'll think of the, let's leave the song a surprise, but we'll edit in an appropriate song, one that's relevant to the podcast and one that's kind of pencil. - Good. - Goodbye to the people who hate it on me. Goodbye to the people who loved me. Goodbye to the people who trusted me. Goodbye, goodbye to every part of me. - Goodbye to the people who hate it on me. Goodbye to the people who loved me. Goodbye to the people who trusted me. Goodbye, goodbye to every part of me. - Now, I need some changes in my life. ♪ Now I need to move on and on now ♪