- Data part. - Oh, data's brains out. - I just wondering, you know, after this movie, if I don't go to Britain, you know, they're not busy, man. We can go to a piece somewhere. - Pick up on Friday then. - Oh, right, Friday, uh-huh. - So, you wanna do something to me? - What a wonderful day! - Welcome back. I am your host for the episode, Kyle. - And I'm also your host, Cassidy. - And this is date night. - Before we cover Beetlejuice, which I'm super excited to talk about because I just had so much fun with this fucking movie, Cass, what did we do for a date? - We went camping. - Camping, this was not like a date night. This was like a date week, it felt like. - Yeah, so that's the reason there was no episode last week. - Oh yeah, we should address that. There was no episode last week. Totally forgot about that. - Because camping, I now realize being the adult that has to do all the packing is a lot of work. And I feel for my mother having to have packed everything for us when we were children. - Brutal. - It's brutal. And so like Monday night, I went and got a bunch of last minute things after work. Just a bunch of little things we needed, propane tanks, all that stuff. Tuesday night, I had to do all the groceries. Wednesday-- - Just so you guys know when she's doing this stuff, I'm still at work. It's not like I'm sitting here doing nothing. I work until like six and she gets out of three. So this just sounds like I'm just like, yeah, go ahead, go do those things. And I'll sit here and do nothing. Which did not happen. - Monday night I also packed all me and Kyle's clothes. - I was a guest on the podcast, this scene is taken. That's the plug, that was a beautiful setup. Thank you so much, babe. You can tell there's no hard feelings about this. And then on Wednesday, I got all the food together, made pasta salad, made rice Krispies. We did all that stuff. - If we ever get big enough, we will send our listeners one singular rice crispy from you and god damn it the best thing they ever ate. This is not hard to make rice Krispies, but there's something you put in a man. - No, there's nothing special. - There's something extra you put in a man. They're addicting, it's not okay. And then Thursday morning we got up bright and early, packed the car and headed to Eustis, Maine. - Get Eustis, listen Eustis. - We got Eustis, listen Eustis. - It makes sense though, like I love that same because the whole time we were there I was like, I wanna do anything. Like I just want to relax, which is what I did, it was fantastic. - Yep, we just relaxed all weekend, spent a lot of time in the late 'cause it was hot. - It was way hotter this year than last year. So this is like a yearly thing that Cass has been doing for like her whole life. I'm new to this in your respect. I've been camping, I should say that, I've camped. This is the first time I'm camping with. This is like one of the first time I've been camping with you 'cause we went twice last year. And this is only the third time we're gonna camp it together. But this is like a yearly thing that we do. So I just want to get that out of the way. Like this is something that we do all the time. And so last year it was cooler, it rained a lot. We didn't like, we had to sleep with like multiple layers on. - Yeah, it was a coachier experience. This year it was hot, tent camping when it's hot is hard. You can't keep ice in your coolers. You can't cool off enough in the night. You'll go to the shower, the communal shower. And when you walk back, you're already sweating again. Don't get me wrong, we had a blast. It was a lot of fun. - Yeah. - But I've realized that I prefer camping when I can wear a sweatshirt and be cozy around a campfire. - Oh, that's the best part is like sweatshirt, sweatpants, sandals, fire s'mores. - Yeah. - That's like the perfect camping night. - Warm camping coffee. - Yeah. - But, and my family, at least a lot of my family are huge. They like were so happy that it was warm, which I'm sure that's great for one day, but I want it cooled off by five p.m. - That was the bummer was like, there was one night where they couldn't either, they like straight up, we didn't even have a fire is way too hot, which is like, if we're camping, I want to have fire. You know what I'm saying? I want some s'mores, I want some spready freddies. - Yeah, but it was a blast, we swam in the lake, I was so proud of Kyle for swimming in the lake, standing in the lake, but he was still in the lake and that's a lot of progress. - Yes, that's bigger than last year. I didn't get in the water at all last year. - Maybe because it was cold. - Yeah, no, because it was cooler. I didn't have a choice for sure. There was no sitting on the beach this year, it was like either that or die, it was summer die. And so I was in the water, we were in the water, had to be four or five hours every day. - Yep. - I'd say on Friday, we're probably in the water for like, or Thursday, probably in the water for like five or six alone. - Friday was the longer. - Friday, yeah. - That's the day Kyle got burnt to a crisp. - I got the worst sunburn I've ever had in my life and I've only had two or three. I used to tell Cass I've never burnt in my life. That's because I'm not an idiot and didn't spend, you know, eight hours outside without applying sunscreen. But I decided to do that for some reason this year. - Standing in water. - Yeah, standing in water, which was not smart. Sunscreen came right off as soon as I got in. - You weren't wearing sunscreen. - Well, I'm talking about like the second day 'cause I got even more burnt the second day 'cause we got in and my sunscreen just came right off. I ended up spending almost $20 on a bottle of Aloe at like the local store because I was like, I walked in and literally told the woman, I was like, I have the worst sunburn in my life. She goes all the way in the back up the ramp on your left and immediately I ran there, grabbed it, had her room me up, came back and I was like, God, put the sala on me, man. I was like dying near my shoulders. I've never been so burnt and I realized today, oh my God, the horror, man. I realized today I was like itching my head and I'm looking in the mirror when I was like washing my hands or brushing my teeth or something this morning and my scalp is like coming off, bro. I had my hair in braids and didn't put sunscreen on my head 'cause I've just not used to that, I didn't put it on the part and so like literally there's like a part, that in the front part of my hairline, it is peeling so bad 'cause I got burnt and didn't notice it until it started peeling. And so it just looks really bad. - But no, we had a great time, we got a new tent, we got to try out, which ended up, I loved the tent. - Hell yeah. - We only fought for like five minutes while setting up. - There's only two and a half minutes set up. It took us in two hours and we only fought twice. The tent says two and a half minutes set up, which now that we know how to do it, I think it will-- - It really is actually only the two minutes set up. - 'Cause it's the only tent I've ever had where like you don't have to like put the poles together, it literally just pops the heck up. - Which was nice. - We would have been done on time, had one of the poles not been put on backwards. Like literally, of course for some reason, like every time we buy something like this, like there's always something defective that we got to fix. And of course this time it was the fact that they, when they manufactured all the poles went on right, except for one specific back pole. And we could not figure out how to get it off. Finally we were just like fuck it, yank on the thing and turn it around and we did. We got to work, but it took us two hours and I was pretty impressed with that because I was like for two people who only camp like once a year, I'll take it, not bad. - I don't think it took us two hours for the tent. - It took us two hours to get set up in total. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, you're right. What did, we didn't really, no, we pretty much was the tent. We didn't have much to set up. Like I'm just running through my head and I'm like, yeah, the screen house. - No, I didn't do a line. - And then the hammock and they closed on and I was like, no, but we did all that after. - And then moved everything into the tent and blew up the air mattress and hooked up. - Yeah, that's true. We hooked everything up. - Yeah. - Whoa, it's a winky two hours. We're winking at each other, yeah. It was, but I actually don't mind the setup because like we were sweating our asses off and I was like, this is the perfect time to go get in the water 'cause like, there's no better time than when you're drenched. And so we did that, but it's the tearing down that sucks. - Really, I thought-- - 'Cause the excitement's over, they have to go home now, back to the real world. There's no more swimming, there's no more hanging out in the tent. And it's just like, it's a bummer when you have to pack up. It's like the drive there felt like five minutes, the drive home felt like an eternity and it was just like, the hate going home from places. (laughing) - Yeah, Kyle and Jordan's off so much that he told my aunt that next year we're coming for the full week. - Which is so funny because while we're packing up, I was like, I don't know if I can do this for a full week, which was like 10 minutes after I told them we were gonna be there for a full week. - We just told my aunt we were, so we are now. (laughing) - We need to get like some little, like a little tiny, what are those things called like a come along or a tag along or a come here and come and go or something like that, what are they called? - Well, there's travel trailers and there's pop-ups. - Pop-ups, we need to pop so nothing I said. Thank you for being nice about that, nothing I said is real, okay. (laughing) That shows you the how little I know about camping. - But-- - I didn't even know what they're called. - The reason I don't wanna pop-up is 'cause pop-ups don't have air conditioning. - Right. - And they also have like the tent sides kind of that you have to fold in and out that are-- - Oh, we thought that's right. I keep forgetting what a pop-up is. What's the other one? - A travel trailer. - Travel trailer. - Yeah. - That's, yes, that's what, because we had this conversation 'cause someone there had a pop-up and I was like, that's cool and you were like, you were listing all the reasons why it's not. - Yeah. - As nice. - There's no party in 'em, there's no AC in 'em. If I'm getting the camper, it's not gonna be a pop-up. - Fair enough, fair enough. That'll be a long ways off, unfortunately. - I know, I actually, I'm so sad, is after this camping trip, I'm looking on my phone for like, Facebook Marketplace for people selling camper. - I do too. - Then I realized my car can't, I have an SUV, but it's a small SUV. - It can tow 15 to 3,500. - Which mine's actually 15 because it's not like a-- - 20, 20, 20. - Special engine, it's only a four-cylinder. - Okay. - No, six-cylinder. - I don't know anything you're saying right now, but okay. Yeah, no, totally. I mean, I get it. - But so, my car actually couldn't tow anything, even the smallest of campers. - Right, gotcha, okay. Okay, yeah. - Right now, we need to buy a house, we need to buy a new bigger SUV in a camper. - Yeah, yeah. - And we have a home gym, we gotta do that too. We gotta get money. - So, I think the plan will be the house first, obviously, 'cause we need a place to, also, we're looking for a camper. We live in an apartment. - Yeah, for, no, I had the same thought 'cause it was-- - Where's the camper going? - I was looking at this RV that was for sale for, mind you, $339,000. And I was like, yeah, so if we bought that logistically, where would we put it? In my head, it's like the inevitability will buy it, so I'm like stressing about where we're gonna put it. And then I was like, "Fuckin' even what? "What are you talking about, dude? "You don't have to worry about that. "You don't have to put it anywhere 'cause you'll never buy it." - Right. Kind of, I'm not gonna lie to you. I was like, I felt relief, a significant amount of relief for something I didn't have to worry about. My shoulders dropped and I felt like 10 pounds came off my chest and I was like, "Yeah, we're cookin', "we're good." - So, I got my car in 2022. So, it'd be paid off in six years or four years from now, three and a half, technically. So, in three and a half years, when I get a new car, I'll trade up for a bigger one and we can get a camper. So, that's our four year plan. First, buy a house, so we have a place to put the camper. Then, trade my car in for a bigger car and then get a little camper. And then, the camper will be fun. - Damn right. - Campin' is fun. - Let's make camping fun, let's do it. - But, when it's a little bit chillier and I don't have to buy ice every single day for the cooler. - Yeah, that was the kicker was like, "Okay, we have to go to the store again." It just kind of ruins the mystique of sleeping in the woods. It's like, the store's right there. I just wanna pretend it's not-- - I marked it. - Yeah, the store. - I kept calling it, what I call it, the station. And everyone was like, "What are you talking about?" I was like, "The station, you can see it from here." And they're like, "Bine's marking." - Oh my God. - Oh man, anyway, let's start talking about movie stuff 'cause that's what this is, it's a movie podcast. And last week, I asked you guys a question. The question was, what is the worst sequel you have ever seen? Do you yourself have any answers? Like, what's the worst sequel you've ever seen? - I didn't answer the poll question. - No, no, no, no. Honestly, it might be my spy too. - Yeah, I mean, it was bad, it was bad. I mean, that's fair, I'm not even like upset about that. That's a good answer. For me, it's probably Pocahontas too. I didn't really like Pocahontas, but like Pocahontas too is just like, why is this a thing? Just why does this exist? So anyway, you guys answered the question. Someone read the answers. Robert from This Seed Is Taken podcast said, "Cars 2." - Never even said. - Never seen "Cars 2" in "God Knows How Long." But I don't remember liking any of the "Cars" movies, except maybe the first one. I think "Life Is A Highways" in that movie. - Yeah. - I don't mind that. Verda Braille says, kind of niche, but I despise "Hellraiser 3." So "Hellraiser" is pinhead. I don't know, do you even know who "Hellraiser" are the movies? Okay, I wanted to explain them too. They're crazy torture demons from a hell dimension. And it's actually funny because I used to only own "Hellraiser 3" on VHS. I didn't own any other one, so it's the only one I ever watched. And I actually never watched any of the other "Hellraisers" except for the newest one because I hated that movie so much. So that's a fair response. The next one, you've seen this one. Halloween Resurrection. Absolutely without a doubt, the biggest pile of hot garbage. That's the one where they film the reality TV show in the house that Michael Myers grew up in. - Oh. - And the ending line is like, what's that dude's name, like "Buster Rhymes" or some shit? Who's like the, there's like a rapper in there. And he like tells Michael, he's like, "Happy Halloween, motherfucker." And he like karate chops him in the head. And I'm like, "I hate this movie, it's so dumb." So shout out to Civvis88 for saying that 'cause God is true. Now I want to preface this with, we love Halloween in this house. We do. But Colt Dumand says, "Halloween 3, Season of the Witch, who thought let's get rid of the main antagonist?" That's the one with Michael Myers. Did you even know that? I didn't make you watch that last year. So "Halloween 3, Season of the Witch," isn't about Michael Myers. In fact, it takes place in a different universe because on the TV is Halloween, the movie playing. That's nothing new with Michael Myers. John Carpenter wanted it to be an anthology movie series. So every year on Halloween, they'd release a new movie called "Halloween," but it wouldn't be about Michael Myers. And people were not happy. And so they went back to having Michael Myers, which is why Michael Myers exists, essentially, 'cause "Halloween 4" is the return. And so it is highly lauded as one of the worst sequels ever made. I think it gets too much flack. I think it's decent, but I agree that it is up there as one of the worst sequels only because Michael Myers isn't in it and people thought he would be. - Right. - RJI 1996 says, "Some of the Mask." You know the "Mask" Jim Carrey movie? - Yeah. - I never watched it. Jim Carrey scares me a little bit and the "Mask" scared me as a kid. - Jim Carrey scares the heck out of me. I don't like Jim Carrey. - Yeah, and so imagine like a creepy mask on him making him even scary. Like, I grew up watching horror movies and I used to cry because my uncle and my cousins loved this movie and they put it on and I would solve until they turned it off. So I haven't seen that, but this is firmly sitting at a 1.2 on Letterbox. So "The World" agrees with "Some of the Mask" as a bad sequel. Gabe Raposo says, "Thore the Dark World." - I don't think that's a worst sequel. - I think it is easily the worst Marvel movie period. - Really? - I mean that, I mean that. I'm talking "Quanaman" and "The Wasp" "Quanamania." I'm talking "Iron Man 2." Like, dude, this is the worst Marvel movie I've ever seen. It's so bad. And is the reason that they got Thor Ragnarok to be directed by Tycho Atiti because this movie was just, what about the one that just came out? - "Love and Thunder." I think "Love and Thunder" is better. - No, no, no. Madam Webb. - Madam Webb is not in the MCU. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. You don't have to worry about that. I'll never make you watch that. (laughing) I'm not feared today. Says, "Terrifier 2." I've seen the first one. It made my stomach turn and I said, I'll never watch another one. At screenings of this, people were walking out. They were throwing up because the gore is so violent and so bad that it actually almost got an NC-17 rating, which they don't even do that anymore. That's it. That's all the ones we had for that. I also asked you guys a question, who is the best wrestler turned actor? - I answered that. - Because Dave Batista, obviously very famous. If you know him at all, he was a professional wrestler in WWE for a long time. And these were the options. I gave you "The Rock," John Cena, and Dave Batista. Now, we had 16 votes. And Dave Batista got 50% getting eight votes, so he won. People agree with us. I voted for Dave. - I did too. - I'm afraid I was gonna say, I'm afraid I was gonna say, I'm afraid I was gonna say I'm afraid I voted for Dave Batista. John Cena and "The Rock" tied it with four votes each. - Wow, I'm actually shocked by that. - Why are you shocked though? - Because John Cena... He's not in the running with "The Rock." - Can I be honest? - I would say "The Rock" is way closer to Batista than John Cena. - I truly think John Cena is a better actor than doing John Cena. - Ooh! - Yeah, I think... - There's actually no way. - I think Dwayne Johnson has the it factor. He is electric, he is easily likable. He's got charisma, he's charming. And I think that's why people love him. I do not think he's like a great actor. I truly think John Cena is a better actor, better performer. - Interesting. - I just think Dwayne has this magnetism about him that like draws people to him. So I was really also very, very, very, very happy to see people vote with Dave Batista as the best wrestler turned actor. - Yeah. - And Batista just has a better... - He's more versatile. - Yes, he has a better resume. His filmography varies wildly. And so it's just easier to look at that and be like, he's actually doing the thing. - My issue with "The Rock" is every role he plays is very, very similar. - He's playing Dwayne Johnson in every movie. He's playing "The Rock." - So that's why I go with Batista. John Cena is not in the running for me, but honestly, I can't tell you if I've seen a movie with John Cena. - Have you seen "Blockers"? You gotta stop their kids from getting laid, okay. That is John Cena. Other than that, I don't know what you would have seen it. John Cena hasn't, to be fair, John Cena's resume is weak 'cause he hasn't done as much as everyone else on this list, but I mean, he's still in things. He was in Barbie for half a second. He played Mermaid Barbie when they come back and the Kens have turned Barbie-land into Ken Land. That was funny. So looking out for the poll this week, no idea what it is or the question's gonna be, but I'll post it at some point, keep an eye on that. Let's jump into our trailers because, again, the movie we watched is Beetlejuice. We watched it from home, so we have four trailers we gotta talk about. - Adam and Barbara are ghosts. - What's the good of being a ghost if you can't frighten people away? - Their house is being haunted by the living. - Maybe the house could use a little remodeling. - And they can't scare them into leaving. - It's sad, it's a little late to be neurotic. - So they're calling on Beetlejuice. - Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. - Who's no ordinary ghost? - Yeah, you don't want to use help. - Can you be scary? - What do you think of this? - Heathers, how'd you feel about Heathers? - Watch. - Hell yeah. - It's funny, it has a crime murder aspect, which I love, and it's like a high school coming of age with a very dark twist. - It felt like Mean Girls, but with murder. - Yes. - I've seen this movie one time. - Murders Mean Girls. - Murders Mean Girls, yes. - Murders Mean Girls. I've seen this movie one time and I know, I remember it very vividly because it was the first time my parents ever let me like watch a movie in their room 'cause they had like this big old TV in their room. And I watched it on VHS and the only scene I remember is one of the funeral scenes because it scared the shit out of me and I was like, this isn't funny anymore. But the movie is actually really funny and it's been a long time since I've seen it. - Did you pick it because one owner riders in it? - Correct. - Correct, I picked it because one owner rider had this and Beetlejuice come out in the same year. Which is just crazy 'cause she looks 14 in this movie. And in that movie she looks like a 20 year old and she's playing high schooler. Yeah. The next one, the next one. So in 1988 we had three very popular anime movies come out. We had Akira, we had My Neighbor Totoro and we had Grave of the Fireflies. Of those three I made Cast Watch the trailer for Grave of the Fireflies. - Yeah. - And I did not realize that the trailer was like 30 seconds long. So how'd you feel about that? - Pass, it's a bad trailer. I would never choose myself to watch an anime. I watched them if you picked them but I wouldn't choose to watch it and it's sad. - It's very, it's world shattering. It is a world shattering movie. And they tell you in the first five minutes how the movie ends and it still does not ease in the impact. - Yeah. - Twins, that was the next movie we watched the trailer for. - Yeah, so that's also a pass. - What? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Are you for real right now? - Yeah. - No, what? You were losing it during the trailer when we were watching it. - Losing it? - You were laughing. - Was I laughing or was I sneering? - I thought you were laughing, goddamn. I thought you, I literally was like, oh she's loving, she's heating this up. - I think that movie looks stupid as hell. - No, you're breaking my heart here. - Too stupid. - No. - Like the type of stupid that you just can't get over. - You don't know what the plot of twins is. Danny DeVito plays Arnold Schwarzenegger's twins. The twin and they are brothers and they go around and Danny DeVito basically leads him down like a skeevy path. I thought I loved it growing up. I watched it all the time. - I'm sure you did. - I loved it. My parents had it on beat. - It's a boys, like a little boys movie. - I think it's rated R. - I know, but you know what I mean? - Oh yeah, like step brothers just rated R, but it's for like kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, I loved it. Wow, I'm honestly shocked because when you were watching the trailer, I literally was like, I nailed it, she's gonna love all of these. I was like, damn, that's crazy. And then lastly, we have Beetlejuice 2. This is coming out in a couple months. Cass actually comes out next month, but Cass hasn't seen the trailer for it and we're watching Beetlejuice. So I was like, fuck it, let's just watch Beetlejuice 2 trailer. What'd you think? - Watch. - Yeah, obviously. - It looks cute. It doesn't look cute. It looks good. I love Jenna Ortega. - Can I ask you something about Jenna Ortega? - Yeah. - Had this conversation at work. Is she being just like, is she being typecast as that spooky girl? - Yeah, 100%. - Can she be more than that? - Ah. - I don't know. The issue with Jenna Ortega, she's very cute, but I wouldn't say she's like, the sex appeal character. Like, I don't think she'll ever be like. - 'Cause she's playing like little girls. - Yeah, she's funny. - Like everything she's in, she's like a 15 year old. - 'Cause she's tiny. So a lot of roles like that would be played by like Scarlett Johansson or Margot Robbie or any of those like blonde bombshell girls. Jenna Ortega cannot get. - Would not. Well, I don't think she'd go up for them either. I don't think she was like trying to get those roles. - I also think Jenna Ortega in real life is kind of like a spooky little emo girl. - She's a lot like Aubrey Plaza. - Yeah. - I'll give you that. - Yeah, and so I think that honestly, she probably wants these roles because they're the most like her. They speak the most to her. And if that's what she wants to do, she does a great job. So keep doing it. - Yeah, I agree. - I don't wanna see her in roles like Scarlett Johansson and Margot Robbie or Sidney Sweeney. - You're just naming blonde people. Like she's not, she's not any of these girls. - So I'm saying, I don't like, I couldn't see Jenna Ortega and anyone but you. - I could if they made it like an Adam's family style. Anyone but you. I think she's a bit typecast, but I think she likes that. And like you said, I feel like she's kind of like that in real life. I don't know her. Obviously none of us know her, but like I finished. - She's like from what I see. - Yeah. And I also think that X is proof that she can do something that's not spooky to me girl. - I mean, yeah. - I think she nails it in that. But at the same time, it's and also in Halloween scream and scream six, she's not that spooky little girl, but she's still like a college freshman. Like she's playing very young characters. - Yeah. - And so I'm eager to see what happens with her career because I want to know where she goes from here because everything she's playing is young and naive or gothic. - The issue is like, she's like five foot tall. - Yeah. - Like she's itty bitty and she's never going to grow. - Yeah, she's very tiny. She's like, gotta be like five too. Yeah. So that's all right. Those are our thoughts on those movies. If you care at all, let's go ahead and just jump right over into Beetlejuice and start talking about that movie because we have 25 minutes in and haven't started talking about it. - So there are two guys and they're on the horseback and they're looking for something. So maybe there's-- - No, no. Where's the horizon? - The horizon? - Where is it? - Yeah, it's at the bottom. - That's right. Walk over to this painting. Well. - Right, okay, so there are five cowboys, you know-- - No, no, no, no, no, no. Where's the goddamn horizon? - It's there. - Where? - At the top of the painting. - All right, get over here. Now, remember this. When there are horizons at the bottom, it's interesting. When there are horizons at the top, it's interesting. When there are horizons in the middle, it's boring as shit. Give me a positive about this movie. - It is filmed in the cutest little town. - The setting, you like the setting? - Yeah. - East Corinth, Vermont. You nailed it. When you were like, oh, they filmed this in Vermont, for sure. Like, you saw like one scene and you're like, this is Vermont, I had to look it up, yeah. It was set in Connecticut, filmed in Vermont. Cute fucking town. - Yes. - Completely agree. - I love the vibe of the town, a small New England town, and it was kind of hot. It was, I don't even think it was like, fall time, but it felt fall. - So I was actually gonna say that too, it doesn't feel like a Halloween movie, because it's not in fall. - Yeah. - It's just the content of it, but it felt like summertime. Like, through on vacation, it's just like, it doesn't, there's no like color anywhere. It just looks like a cute, quaint little town in the summertime. - Yeah. - But also the atmosphere of the movie gives a fall feeling. So I think that actually speaks to Tim Burton. And like, his ability to make that feeling. One of my positives is how much I loved these characters. I think right off the bat, they established that you are going to love Alec Baldwin and Gina Davis's characters, because they're so madly in love with each other. - Yeah. - I love that, they're very easy to like, and Winona Ryder's character. She just wants someone to listen to her. She wants to be like, loved and listened to, and just heard and valued. And these ghosts, unfortunately, are the ones giving it to her? Not her real, or not her dad and her stepmom? - Yeah. - So I just think it was really easy to love those two, and hate, unfortunately, hate the mother and stepfathers. And I'm just, I can't remember. But obviously at the end of the movie, they come around. But I just love the way that Tim Burton sets it up that you genuinely care for these people, and you like them, and you want them to succeed and then kills them. And then you're just like stuck with learning, like with them, sort of hand in hand with them, learning how to be a ghost and be dead. So I just, I love that. - My next positive is I didn't expect this movie to be so funny. Like I, me and Kyle both have never seen Beetlejuice. - Correct. - And I don't know, I thought it was, I knew it was like a kind of like a creepy-ish movie, but it's so funny. And the humor in it is like kind of cheesy, but it's just like, still somewhat, like it's a fun movie to watch. - I think the humor, as I have that written down as well, I echo your sentiments. I think this movie is hilarious because it's so over the top and just wacky and zany, but it's done in a way that doesn't overwhelm you with its wackiness and zanyness. Like, this goes into my next positive is that I think that there is the perfect amount of Beetlejuice and Michael Keaton in this movie. You can't get tired of him and you want more of him because he's on screen for, not honestly, not a lot of time, but you can feel his presence throughout the movie. And when he is on the screen, he just steals the show and you want more of him, but they never give you more, which is perfect because someone like that, like a character like that getting too much screen time could absolutely ruin a fucking movie. - It could be too much, he could get annoying. - He's so annoying, he is annoying. He's annoying, he's just obnoxious, he's gross, he's rude and disgusting, but it's like, you kinda like him 'cause you get these small doses of him and he's so energetic and you're just like, this dude is like off his rocker, but doing too much of that could absolutely ruin the movie. And I think they did a great job of just sprinkling it in here and there, enough to keep you entertained. It was like, right when you start to be like, I wish something kind of fun would happen. Boom, they do it. I think the timing in this is incredibly done. - I agree. - I wanna cap off that thought with just saying that I think Michael Keaton is fucking perfection in this movie. - Yeah. - And him is Beetlejuice, although I was like Michael Keaton, but this just made me love him. I've been a fan, I like him, this made me love him. He is awesome in this role, I cannot wait to see him do it again. - Yeah, he just does like such a stellar job at like weird little mannerisms, like in just the way like Beetlejuice blocks or like carries himself in just all those little things. Like, he just moves so weird that it makes Beetlejuice so creepy and like weird. He's like one of those things that they like say like, you don't wanna look at, but you can't look away. - Yeah, it's a good car crash. - Yeah, it's a good one. - It won't happen, but you can't look away. - Yeah, that's Beetlejuice. Like just the little movements and the little mannerisms that Michael Keaton does is masterful as Beetlejuice. - Does this movie or just Beetlejuice's general ever scare you? Is there ever a point where you're like, this is scary? - No. - I don't think so either. And I think that's what makes it so good is that it never tries to like give you a jump scare or anything, it just knows what it is and it stays in that lane. - Yeah. - It's a Halloween movie meant for most people, I wouldn't say like a child, but maybe like people 10 and up, I don't know. But this is like a good, easy watch for like a family if you wanted to. And it would be like maybe a little frightening to them, but it would terrify them. But as you get older, there's nothing scary about this movie. - No, it's not a scary movie at all. It's just a little spooky. - Yeah, it's just a nice spooky fall watch. It's not scary, it's not gonna like jump you. You're gonna be able to sleep just fine after. - Right, well when Kyle put it on, I was like, it's not time, it's not fall yet. That's a fall movie. And it is 'cause of like the vibes within it, but it also like, I guess it doesn't have to be. - It really does it because it doesn't take place at Halloween. - It's true. - Doesn't even take place like, there's no specific dates really mentioned. - Right. - And so it's like, this just takes, it just happens. And so I think that's why you can watch it year round. I did honestly pick it because I saw a post that was like, oh, it's officially round in the corner to spooky season. And I was like, hell yeah, it's about time. Let's do it, let's put on some spooky. Did not know I was getting a cartoon, like a cartoonish fucking portrayal of something spooky, but it was a nice pleasant surprise. Let's each pick one more positive before we move on. - Okay, my last positive is the scene where they do the choreographed dance. - Oh, at the table. - Yes, that scene is so much fun. And the entire time me and Kyle are like, how are they possessing all of them at the same time you can do this? And I literally, I'm like, I don't care how they did it. I loved it. It was so much fun. And it's so fun to see how like these ghosts that are trying to scare these people out of their house, you can tell that they're good people because like, that's how they do it. - That's how they do it. - That's how they make them dance. - Really, we're gonna make them dance. They're gonna run out of here screaming. - Right, it's like, let's have them have fun. Let's like give them a good time and they'll take off being scared. And it's like, no, man, that's how innocent they are. It's ghost, don't know what the fuck they're doing. - And the song is just so funny and like such a good choice. - Yeah, no, man. - I agree with the 100%. That's my favorite scene, like spoiler for alert when we get to that part. That's my favorite scene and it's not close. They nailed it. They absolutely nailed it. And it's just like the way it starts, it's so random. And you're even kind of like, what the heck? What is she doing? And then everyone else kind of gets in on it and you're like, oh, they've possessed them. But then you're like, where do they go from here? And they just, the scene just lasts the entire, like it is a five minute scene. And it's like, oh, they're not gonna, they're just gonna do the whole thing. That's where they're going. They're just gonna do it. And you're just gonna have to watch it. But you're like having fun. So you don't even care that it's a five minute dancing. - Yep. - I love how that was shot. Because I'm sure that took forever to chore your graph and like get the lip syncing right and the dancing. I would've never been able to do that shit. For my last positive, I have three to pick from. I have to shut out Danny Elfman's score. - Yes. - That's my last positive. I think this is a movie where you take the score away or place it with a different score. And it's not nearly as good. I think the score keeps it light hearted and goofy and fun. Because everything is so like jingly. I do not know how else to describe it. It's very like childlike and it's wondrous. And you just listen to it and you're like, oh, this is an innocent ass playlist. Like whoever, this is an innocent score. And I love that because it keeps you in that vibe of, okay, we're having fun here. We're not supposed to be scared. They're not trying to sway one way or the other. It's just a goofy silly movie. - Right. - They're not like, ooh, let's add like a creepy cello here. Like a violin. And then like she'll just absolutely destroy a guitar in this one scene to jump on. It's just Danny Elfman being Danny Elfman. And I loved that because that, this movie needed something like that. - Yeah. My first negative, it's not a huge negative because I think it's a Tim Burton movie. This movie is filmed this way. Like what, this way on purpose. There are parts where it is very, very cartoonish. - Oh, you didn't like that? - No. - Okay. - I don't like when they like walk out the door and they're like in the sand with that snake that literally looks like... - Beetlejuice a little bit. - No, it doesn't look like Beetlejuice. It just looks so cartoony. - Yeah. - Like it's literally off the page of a book. - That's it, like you said. - It's literally... - It's literally 2D. - Yeah. No, it's not, it's a stop motion. It's stop motion. But it is stop motion's animation, so I get what you're saying. - Yeah. But they're just parts where it's very cartoony. Like then, and then when they go to the... under world. (laughs) - Yeah, like the afterlife, I don't know where they go. - Yeah, I don't know where they're actually going, but there are just certain things that are very cartoony. And that's not, I'm not even saying it's a huge negative. It's just a part that wasn't necessarily a positive to go. - Fair enough. But I think it, I mean, if you know who directed this movie. - Exactly. - Or who wrote this movie. - Directed, yeah. - Directed, then it makes sense. - 100%. (laughs) When you get Tim Burton, you know what you're getting into, and he is all over this movie and can feel it. - And I think he did it very masterfully in this where it was cartoony-ish, but not too much. - I agree. I think this is one of, I'm not, I'm gonna say, I'm not a huge Tim Burton fan, and I don't know if that's a hot take or not. I don't know how people feel about Tim Burton. - I think it's a hot take for you, 'cause you're an all-thing spooky guy. - I am, and he's a very spooky, just eerie kind of director, not even horror, just like everything he does is kind of off center. - Yeah. - It's just like tilted enough, where you're like, you feel like I'm in the uncanny valley or like a liminal space, and I'm like, I don't like this. I think he does it, like you said, well enough here that it's not cartoony-ish, it doesn't distract. I think this is one of the more tame, if that's the right words, because everything fits and makes sense. - Yeah. - I thought it was funny you thought Johnny Depp was in this because you saw Tim Burton, and you were like, Johnny Depp's in this, isn't he? That's like, no, but that's funny. My biggest negative is the fact, I think this is such a slow-moving movie. - Until the last 20 minutes. - I think the last 20 minutes are electric. I think it's one of the best 20 minutes in the movie. - No, that's one of my negatives. - Really? - Yeah, the last 20 minutes are a freakin' roller coaster. Like you have all this like build up, which it is, I admit, a little bit too much build up, and then the last 20 minutes is just like, well, we're doing this, and then we're doing this, and then this is happening, and this is happening, and it's just like, okay, this is how we're wrapping it up. - Wow. - In the entire movie, you hit the climax, and then you have 15 minutes, and the movie's done, and the last 15 minutes are just like a little too much. - No, I loved it, that's why I loved it. The last 15 minutes was psyched. I think it was the, it was Beetlejuice. Like the last 15 minutes was who Beetlejuice is. It was chaotic, and off-kilter, and obnoxious, and I loved it, it was all over the place. So I thought that was awesome. I think getting there was a bit tedious at times, because as I started to drift away and be like, okay, something needs, I need something to grab me again, I need something to pull me back in. Something did, eventually. I never like fully lost myself in the, or like pulling myself away from the movie, but I was never fully immersed in the movie either. So I just kept like this weird balance of like, what's going on here, I'm not saying it moves slow. The pacing, like the actual like, from start to finish was fine. It felt like a 90-minute movie, because it was a 90-minute movie. It didn't feel too long, it didn't feel too short, but I just think things happening. It just was like, I didn't get sucked in between events. - Yeah. - And so it kind of kept me at bay a little bit that way. - See, my huge issue is the interactions between Lydia and Barbara and Adam. Because you see that Barbara and Adam want the family out of their house. They meet Lydia like twice and actually have, like they literally only have like, show them interacting like two or three times. And then Barbara's like, I really like that little girl, I don't want them to leave. And it just like, I wish you would have seen more of them interacting to understand why all of a sudden Lydia wants to off herself. Okay, that's actually one of my big ones, Winona's character. - Yeah. - Literally has a note saying she's gonna kill herself, and she's gonna commit suicide by jumping off the roof. - Because she wants to be with Barbara and Adam. And it's like, if we would have seen more of like a bonding experience between them and like more interactions, then sure, I can understand why Barbara would all of a sudden be like, I really love that little girl enough for that to make sense. And also for it to make sense that Lydia wants to go to the afterlife so she can be with Barbara and Adam. I just feel like you don't see them interact enough and form enough of a relationship for that to make sense. - I actually agree with you on that. I do, I agree. I think actually my next negative, I'll just say it, is Winona's jump to suicide is just happening, I guess. And I completely agree with you on that point. I think it's just, they have this huge fight and 'cause Beetlejuice is like scares the shit out of her. And then she's like, I'm gonna kill myself, I'm so utterly alone in this world. And then she tells Barbara and Adam, I wanna be with you guys. And it felt like that was very quick. It was like, whoa, whoa, it's like you've met them twice and you've only actually seen them and had a conversation with them once before this, maybe twice before this. Like I just didn't understand it. And I agree, it didn't bother me to the point where I was like, oh, this is knocking the movie for me. But it wasn't a noticeable thing that had me in my thoughts going, huh. So she's just gonna kill herself, be with them. So I agree with you on that, I agree with you on that. - Yeah. And then the other aspect to go along with that, where I feel like they didn't spend enough time doing this thing, but it would have made the movie much longer, is I wanted to see more attempts of Barbara and Adam trying to scare the family away. - Completely agree. - They only see like three or four things that they do. Like-- - Yeah, I would say like two. Oh, I would say three, yeah. - They do the closet thing when they first get there that no one sees. - That's the one I forgot about. - Then they dress up as ghosts. - Yeah, with the sheets in a whole set that was funny. - Yeah. And then they do the whole dance scene in the kitchen. - And then they're like, oh, we wanna be with her. We're not gonna scare them out. They can live with us, just odd. - I agree, I think that you only get, they're only getting those three and they're like not, they don't build up to each other. 'Cause she just starts ripping her face off and they're like, you gotta go slow. So then they do the moaning and ghost thing. And the next thing they do is possess them. It's just not like an equal build up between those steps. - Right, but honestly, like if they really wanted them out of their house, like anyone knows how to actually scare someone and they did a terrible job at doing it. Like you were possessing them and making them do a dance. - Right, you had fun, man. Like it was a fun time. Next time they make them like stab their arm with a fork. - Right. - Scare 'em. - Scare 'em. (laughing) - My last negative here is, and this is stupid and it shouldn't be a negative, but it is, what the fuck is Beetlejuice? Like what's his deal? How's he work? - Yeah. - I know he gets back straight. They're like, oh, he was my assistant at one point. And then he went in to be a bio-exorcist and we just stopped communicating some shame. I wanna see more of what the fuck won. He does how he does it. And two, what the fuck is he? Like what's his deal? - They should do a Beetlejuice prequel. - I wouldn't even be mad at it. I'm not a big prequel guy. Like in long legs, people were like, I wanna see prequel to see how long legs became long legs. I don't. - Yeah. - I wanna see prequel on how Beetlejuice became Beetlejuice 'cause I was lost on how he's able to like control everything around him at all times, essentially. Like when they're trying to keep him from marrying Lydia, when in the final 15 minutes, he scares everybody and he's gonna marry Lydia for some reason, which I still don't understand why that was happening, but it did happen. He's like zaps them back into the tiny little village that they had built, like that model village of the city of the town that Adam had built when he was alive. And I was like, so why doesn't he just do that? Like all the time? Like whenever anyone's about to say his name's gonna know and just zap him away. But what has the power to do to every once? He's like a god, essentially. And he can't stop people from saying his name three times, but he can zap them to a different dimension. The fucking word about those. - And the other ghost do that? Or is it just Beetlejuice? - I don't know. Like, I don't, I genuinely don't know. I don't know. And it's so dumb and so stupid to be upset by it. But it bothered me where I was like, what's going on with Beetlejuice here, man? I need a little bit more. Like I wanted more screen time. I'm glad we didn't get more screen time, but I would have liked a little more story on who he is, what he does, how he works. Just sort of really anything on how and like what are the rules here? - Yeah. - I need my own handbook for the recently dead and I need it now. - Right. Give me your last, give me, give me one last negative. - My last negative is kind of stupid, but it was, it really affects me, not really. But they had the dog commit the murder. - Oh, he was so upset about this, you know. - Like, come on. - So they almost hit a dog. They swerve out of the way and they go off a bridge, but they're balanced perfectly on the bridge and they're okay because the dog is on a piece of wood that is also balanced with the car. Now, if this dog stays on long enough and they get out of the car, they're gonna be fine. But the dog just steps off, the piece of wood drops and they both drown and die and that's how the movies start. - How did he get on that piece? It literally is like the dog was trying, I was literally trying to kill him. - Baby, I mean. - Because the first he gets in the way and then somehow he's on this plank of wood, even though it's six feet away from where he just was when they swerve around and I just don't like that. Don't paint a dog in that light. - You were so upset, even like in the moment, it was so funny in the moment they go over the bridge, you were like, "Don't make the dog the killer." - Yeah. - I was like, "No, stop, they're fine." - They could've done that. - They're gonna be happy. - All without a dog. - Yeah, or literally just when the dog runs out of the way, just crash off the bridge and drown. - Yeah, we don't need the last scene of the dog being like, and stepping off in the bridge. - I thought it was fine. - It didn't bother me at all, because that's something a dog would definitely do. - No, it wouldn't. - You'd like stay, boy, stay, and they take off running. You know what I mean? (laughs) That's just what all dogs do. - Also, they had plenty of time to get out of the way. - I feel like at least one of them could've gone out. - I don't understand, I don't truly know the power of like a car sinking, but like, you could've got out. - Also, we're both a little deluloo, and I feel like we'd think we'd survive a lot more than we actually would. - I do, I think I'd survive anything. - I'm like, you are so smart, and you're a real thinker in stressful situations. Nothing's gonna get you down. I... (laughs) - She gives herself the same pep talk every morning. - I visualize myself getting out a lot of scenarios. I'm pretty good at it. - Yeah, I feel like if we were in this situation, we'd've got a lot quicker than them, to be honest. - No, I, no. - Yes, because I would've had to go into town to get something and made you go for me. (laughs) - So I would've been alone. - Probably, probably. So before we end this, I actually wanna do a little, fun little thing called this or that, that I, for some reason watching this, I was struck with this stupid idea, to have, I'm gonna list off haunted house movies, and I want you to tell me which movie is better, Beetlejuice, or the movie, okay? I have five options for you here, ready? First one is, Beetlejuice, or the Monster House. - Beetlejuice. - Me too. This, or the Amityville Horror, starting Ryan Reynolds specifically. - Remember that other movie enough? - Damn, I remember why we watched it, and I was like, I don't know if she's gonna remember this or not, 'cause we watched it a long time ago. And then my selling point was, Ryan Reynolds plays the dad, AKA the killer in the movie, I was like, I'll leave that part out. So this might've fallen in. - Yeah. - Maybe you'll have to watch the Amityville Horror. This or the TV show, The Haunting of Hill House. - The Haunting of Hill House. - Me too, 100% The Haunting of Hill House, is one of my favorite TV shows of all time. And it saddens me that it was a limited series, but it also makes me happy, because if it had gone any longer than it was, then it already was, it would've been bad. This or the Deep House? - Well, it's hard to compare, when you get into stuff like this, because the Deep House is actually genuinely scary. - True, that is true. - I enjoyed watching Beetlejuice more. - I enjoyed watching Beetlejuice more as well. - Yeah. - I did. - Lastly, this one's gonna be tough. Beetlejuice or The Conjuring? - Oh. (laughing) - Beetlejuice? - Why? - I don't like scary movies. - Oh no, for me it's The Conjuring. I love that movie. - I know you do. I don't like scary movies. I'd rather watch Beetlejuice. - I think it's fantastic. I love that movie. It's the little fall New England town vibes. - No, I agree with that. I think, I like the, you know me. I love those quaint, small, like Stephen, ideal Stephen King main towns. But The Conjuring just scared the piss out of me. - I don't like being scared. I'm scared enough. - I do like being scared. I think that's the difference between us. - I'm always scared. That's why I always envision myself in soon areas and figure out I'm gonna get out of that. (laughing) - It's called anxiety. - We'll read about it. (laughing) - Look it up. - Oh man. All right, give me your favorite scene, your MVP, and your reading. - Well, my favorite scene is the dance scene in the dining room when they put that back. - Mine too, we can kind of breeze over that. I forgot we mentioned that. - Yeah. - I agree, mine too, easily the best scene in the whole movie. It's fun, it's stupid, it's good time. - Yes. My MVP, honestly, this movie's hard to give an MVP too. - I actually have three. - Because I feel like no one plays a more important role than another. - Whoa, yeah, 100% agree. Like everyone is pretty much on par with each other. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So if I am gonna give my MVP, I'm gonna, there's no really rhyme or reason to this. I'm gonna give it to Adam, who's played by Alec Baldwin. That's because you think he's actually hot. - Because hell, I didn't know Alec Baldwin used to look like that, those baby blues, let me tell ya. - When this started and I was like, that's Alec Baldwin and you were like, what? And I was like, yeah, he was old forever. He looked good at one point and you were like-- - I know he used to look like that. He was attractive. - What blew my mind was like six seconds before that. His name was on the screen and you're like, I didn't see it. And I was like, what do you mean? - He looked like he could be a Hemsworth brother. - He's very handsome in this movie, absolutely. But I think that Gina Davis and Alec Baldwin, gorgeous couple on this, gorgeous. And that's why they're my MVPs. I picked them because by default, they are just so beautiful and I love them and I was like, yeah, this is them. It's them, they're my favorite. So they get the MVP. Michael Keaton was the third one 'cause I did say I had a third MVP, he's third just because him as blue is just as fantastic. - Yeah. - All right, on the count of three, we'll say our rating, ready? - Okay. One, two, three, four and a half, we're full start away from each other. - This movie is not a four and a half, you've been getting stopped. - It is to me, it is to me, okay? It's not crazy. That is, my opinion is valid, okay? - Okay. - Why a three and a half? Like what keeps it from me anything more than that? - Because it's just, it's a goofy movie. - No, a goofy movie's a Disney movie. This is Beetlejuice. - It's just, it's fun. There's not no high stakes in this. It doesn't, like, I don't know, it's a good movie. - Either get out of my house or stay in my house. That's what we're at, yeah. - It's a good movie, it's goofy, it's funny. It gets a little spookiness, some vibes, but it's not a great movie. - So I think this is one of the most perfect spooky movies I've ever seen because if you're like a young, young child, this probably would scare you, but anyone else, I feel like, this is just a nice, fun debut toe in a haunted house. It's a good starter horror movie, I feel like, 'cause it's not even horror, but I feel like it could be classified as horror. - Yep. - And also, it's just a delight. It's just a delight watch. It's so easy to sit there and just zone out for an hour and a half and watch Michael Keaton and everyone just go ham. I loved it, I thought it was so much fun. All of my negatives were more just like, what can I find to say about this negatively? Because I had so many fun things that I liked about it. I just had an absolute blast watching this thing. - Do you know the letter box score? - I do, I looked it up yesterday because I was like, I'm giving this a four and a half, I need to go see what the community thinks. It's at a 3.8 if I'm not wrong. - Yeah, it is. - But my favorite part of the podcast has-- - You say this every time I love it. Okay, read me some reviews, how much are you fun? - I have seven. - Seven. - But some of them are really sharp. - Holy smokes. Casco's ham on the, Casco loves this part so much, she'll be like, I brought 14 and I'm like, all right, whittle that down, man, whittle it down. - So the first one is a three star review. It's from Adam Bolt. And he says, what I got from this is that if you say his name three times, a coaked out Michael Keaton appears and starts groping you. - That's actually one of the things I had that was on the negatives. I was like, this is very, the jokes in this are very outdated. - He looks a little too sexy. - Yeah, it's a little too sexual. - There's a little creepy one. - He was like lifting up her skirt and shit and kissing her and like jumping on people and I was like, man, relax. - Yeah. - Coaked out Michael Keaton's fun though. - Right. - Minus the groping, if Michael Keaton was just like that, I would want to be his best friend. - Then I have a three and a half star review from Sydney. - Is it a rocket afterwards? - Yes. - Yes, okay. - And they said, this movie understands the joy that can be found in absolutely nothing making sense. - Okay, okay, that makes you feel validated in the fact that like I didn't know what was happening. - Yeah. - I was like, what's going on? - I'm like, how are they getting to this place and what is this place? - Right, exactly. Who are these people and how does that work? - Yeah, no, I feel validated. I feel heard, I feel listened to. I won't jump off my building later. - Then I have a three and a half star review from Sophie and she said, "Is this movie supposed to be scary or funny?" question mark. Danny Elfman and Tim Burton. Yes. - Yeah, they're cooks. - Like that's their response. It's scary and funny. And then. - How many stars are you getting? - Three and a half. - Then it says, "Danny Elfman is the master of whimsical menace." - Yeah, absolutely. - The whimsical menace. - Yeah, I love that. That's a great way of putting it. - Right? - My description was jingly. - Jingly spooky. (laughing) - Oh my god, whimsically, why was it whimsical menace? - Yeah. - Jingly and whimsical menace. Yeah, I'd pick whimsical menace. - Yeah. (laughing) - Then we have a three and a half star review from Ally and they said, "The dinner party scene is peak cinema." - Yes. - I agree. - How many stars? - Three and a half. - Every time you start reading, I'm like, "What's our other mist?" All of it. - I'm not. I hear the review by many other stars. - He probably doesn't have it a hard time. He's got something going on with his head. - Okay, here for some reason. (laughing) Three and a half stars and what was the review? "Dinner scene is peak cinema." Bro, I'm looking right at you and I still can't even remember what you just said. (laughing) It's a real problem. - You're concerned, actually. - That is, that's hilarious. I agree. - Oh. - I would give anything, anything. Like, if this comes out in theaters now, like, if they ever re-release it, I'd go watch. - Yeah. - But I would give anything to go back to 1988 and be in the theater when they start dancing because I bet the place just fucking erupted. I bet they were like, "What is going on?" - Then we have a four and a half star view from Lucy. - Okay. - And they said, "If my afterlife isn't anything like this, "I'm gonna be so pissed." - Facts. - I don't know. I disagree a lot. - No, you would want to spend all your time with me, locked in an attic, trying to scare people. It'd be so much fun. (laughing) - We couldn't always. (laughing) Then I kind of have a longer review that actually is like-- - Okay, how much stars? - A review, but it's four and a half stars. - Fuck yeah. - From Silent Dawn. - Okay. - And they said, "This movie really shouldn't work "as well as it does. "None of the concepts or ideas involving the afterlife "have any cohesion and it's basically a mix of sketches "and half hazard last minute plot functions, "but it's brilliant nonetheless. "The melancholy of being dead in addition to its annoyances "and inexplicable standards, "the caseworker character with her cigarette smoke "flowing out of her slit throat is hilariously ghoulish "and representative of the mundanity in the afterlife "has never been explored so delicately. "Plus, it's just immensely watchable, "an hour and a half of prime time, prime time, Burton." - Oh yeah. - It's a slew of great character actors dancing in the graveyard of their former lives. - I could not agree more. That review is spot on. That's why when I said four and a half, I couldn't really even explain it. It's just fun to watch because, like I said, I don't know how Beadle just works. There's no fucking rules explained to me. There's just, what I loved is they'd be like, they would literally be sitting there and they'd be like, "Ah, I don't wanna read this damn book." And then they'd cut to the next scene and they'd be like, "Have a random problem." I'm like, "I read it on this page." And I'm like, "Bitch, no you didn't." Three seconds ago, you just said you weren't gonna read the book yet you've already read the whole thing, no you didn't. But for some reason, I was like, "I love that." I just love it. I think it's because the movie itself is so unserious with what it's doing and the characters in it that you kind of give it a pass and you're like, "Fuck it, I just wanna have fun." And that's what this movie is. - And then lastly, I have a five star review from Sierra. And they said, "This felt like a fucking fever dream "and I loved every damn second." - Yes, absolutely, 100%. This is the fever dream, yes. That's it, we did the damn thing. - We did it. - We recorded on Beatles years, awesome. So if you liked this episode, please rate us if you haven't, if you have, you're the best. Thank you for sticking around. This is episode 60, we forgot to mention that at the top. 60 fucking episodes, babe, we've been doing this. I'm proud of us. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. I should say. I'm proud of you. - I would love to count out of how many of the 60 episodes that I actually get the back massage that was promised when I started filming this podcast. - All 60, baby, baby. - Baby 10. - I'm banking them up for Christmas. Anyway, thank you for listening. And if you haven't already, follow me on Instagram, on TikTok. Rate us, share us with anybody who'll listen. Shout out to everyone who shares it. We appreciate that. I see you chase you the man. Thank you so much to everybody who listened and made it this far. And with that said, go watch a fucking movie. - Data park. - Data sprains out. - I'm just wondering, you know, after this movie, if I don't go to prison, you know, they're not busy, man. We can go to a peace somewhere. - If you come on Friday then. - Oh, right. Writing, uh-huh. - So, do you want to do something to me? - What a wonderful day! (gentle music)
