The New York Mets were able to salvage a series split in Miami on Monday thanks to Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor.
Host Ryan Finkelstein breaks down the game and also discusses the most recent story from Will Sammon of the Athletic that details how the industry believes the Mets will handle the trade deadline.
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[MUSIC PLAYING] It's the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. You are Locked On Metz, your daily New York Metz podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] Hello to all you amazing Metz fans. You're listening to Locked On. That's part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you for making Locked On Metz your first listen every day. Locked On Metz is free and available on all platforms, including YouTube. On the show today, we have a ton to discuss, and that's where we're able to salvage a series split in Miami, winning the final game of that four game set. I'll talk about that one in the first segment. Then in the second and third segments, I want to go through a very interesting piece of reporting from Will Salmon of the Athletic as he really detailed what he's hearing about the New York Metz heading into the trade deadline, how they're going to try to approach things, what they might do to add, who will be on the table to sell or not sell. So we're going to talk about all of that fun stuff in the final two seconds of the show. Before we get to any of it though, I'm your host, Ryan Finkelstein. If you want to find any of my work, follow me on X at Finkelstein-Ryan. You can also find some of my writing at justbass.com, where I work as the managing editor. This episode of Locked On Metz has brought you by booking.com, booking.ya. The right state can make you a fan of any city, even your rivals. Check out booking.com for your stay today. Speaking of booking.com, I'm sitting here right now in a beautiful, beautiful place that we got from booking.com. As myself, my wife, my brother-in-law, my sister, all went to Disneyland for the first time ever today. My sister and brother-in-law talked about this on the show last week. They had a wedding out here in the area. My wife and I flew out to meet them. And we all experienced the happiest place on Earth for the first time. And it was happy for the first seven hours. It was a great day, put man. Long day. I woke up-- I don't even remember when-- went to the park at 8 in the morning. And we stayed until close at 12. So that's 16 hours in the amusement park. And here I am, because it's your team every day, giving you your latest in the New York Mets. Because a lot happened today. And it was a really good game, which I unfortunately didn't get to watch. Because for some reason, majorly baseball, what's up with this? Why am I blacked out from watching a Mets vs. Marlins game when I'm in California? I get it when I'm in South Florida. And I have to go find the valleys and watch it there. But I'm in Cali. And I can't watch Mets vs. Marlins. That was strange. So instead, I had to follow on game day. Just watch it that way as I was waiting on lines for rides and such. And then I had to catch up on the highlights later. So a little bit of a frustrating experience for me. But I digress on me. Let's talk about the New York Mets here. Because it was a really good game. And Jeff McNeil deserves a lot of credit for that. Jeff had an unbelievable series. He had to say to run Homer in the second inning. DJ Stewart drew a walk to start things off there. And pretty decent game for Stewart. 0 for 2, 2 walks. That's the DJ Stewart experience. But Jeff McNeil made one of them hold up for a run with a two-run shot, third homer of the series for Jeff, who was starting to look pretty good. And I think it was interesting how the Mets played this series as far as who started games where they played. Jose Glacius got all four starts. And I think that says something, OK? Because he has earned the right to be a starter on this team. And I think we're starting to see that he is an everyday player for the New York Mets right now. And Jeff McNeil is in there for all but one of the games. A lot of them in the outfield. Today, he was at second. And Glacius was at third as Marc Vientos. Got a day off. You also saw DJ Stewart out there a couple times in this series. Well, Tyrone Taylor from Namastaken. He got what one start maybe. I have to check that. But regardless, he certainly was not featured the way he was at times when Martin went down. So that's just something to keep in the back of your mind. Now, getting back to this game here, the Mets get on the board early with that two run homer from Jeff McNeil. David Peterson gives up a run in the bottom of the second inning. Peterson, though, he did a pretty good job pitching himself out of jams. That run that he allowed. He had walked Xavier Edwards, got a couple of outs. Then he gave up a double. And they got a third out on that double as the relay came to third base. And they got Vidale Bruhan out. But still, it's solid work from Peterson throughout this start. The other run he gave up was a solo home run in the fifth inning. Went through five innings. Pitch for Peterson. Gave up six hits. Walk four, struck out four. Didn't go deep into the game. Only went through five at 88 pitches. But he pitched himself out of a couple of tough spots there. One in particular, you had the third inning where Brian De La Cruz with two outs get to hit. Still second, throwing air from Alvarez allows him to advance to third. Josh Bell draws a walk. So he got runners at first and third. Big, big spot. David Peterson gets the strike out to get out of that inning. And then the Mets respond right after that to tack on two more runs in the top of the fourth. Jose Glaseous with a lead-off triple. And then Jeff McNeil makes that hold up as well. Sacrifice fly to drive into Glaseous. Harrison Bader followed it up with a base hit. And then he got himself out on the bases again. Was caught stealing, which really came back to haunt him as because Francisco Endor ends up home run just after that. Lindor, huge game. He'll end it again later on in the ninth inning. So a two-home run day from Lindor is now to 19 home runs on the season. And really just continues to be the Mets' best player, the engine that drives them to see him have a two-home run day when the Mets really needed to win a game. That's just everything that everything you'd expect from Lindor the way he's played this year. And he does not disappoint. Now, what this game ends up coming down to, again, that was the bullpen. So you go through it. The Mets, they get another run on the fifth inning. That one was just a gift run where Cherinos walked to hit a batter with the bases loaded. Peter Lanzo did get to hit that inning, but that was just bad pitching. Then you get to the point, though, where, all right, David Peterson's done after five. So what do you do, what happens next? And the Mets' answer was Jose Budo. And Jose Budo was pretty solid. He did give up a solo home run himself, but he got you through two innings. Phil Maiton, one, two, three, eighth. Then after Lindor's home run Mets winning six to three, we work ourselves all the way to the bottom of the ninth. And the other day I give Edwin Diaz a lot of credit because he got a save in Miami and it looked effortless. And a game where the bullpen was anything but that. Edwin Diaz just shut the door, one, two, three. No worries. Now he comes into this game, strikes at the first battery sees, but then he gives him a base hit. Then he walks it better. Then he gives up another hit. And again, I can't watch this game. So I'm just sitting here following every pitch on game day, losing my mind, wanting to pull my hair out. Like what is going on, Edwin? Why can you not seal the deal here? It was very frustrating. He did give up a run on a ground out with the bases loaded. But then luckily he got a pop out and got out of the jam, picked up his, what was it, his 12th save of the season. The Mets win six to four. Overall, frustrating series. I think you're just happy to get the heck out of there. And at least you didn't lose the series. Now you have two more on the road, but these in New York City, as the Mets are going to score off against the Yankees and the Bronx over the next few days here. We'll talk about that a little bit in the final segment today. But you look at where the Mets are through this series, they survived it. And so now we turn the page to the next one. But before we even talk about Mets Yankees, I want to talk about some very interesting reporting on the athletic by Will Sam and really detailing where the Mets might be thinking at this deadline. 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I don't pretend to be a reporter who has sources, I just tell you what makes sense to me, follow my own logic of common sense, and sometimes that guides me in the right direction, sometimes it doesn't, but that's what you come to this show for is my own take on. What the Mets are gonna do? And from Will Salmon here, it's interesting because it adds a little bit more context to what the Mets might do. So the first thing's first, the draw of the article, the way that you probably found that if you came across something on social media, was Piedalonzo, because Piedalonzo's gonna be the biggest story until the deadline happens and he's gonna be a Mets. So right now, that's what we all think is gonna happen, and Will Salmon, with reporting, pretty much says it's gonna happen, but the one thing that he says, the caveat, the Mets leadership group will consider all options. People familiar with the matter said it would be unlikely for New York to deal with Lonzo, even in a scenario in which it stumbles a bit before the deadline. So, when it comes to Pied, and they say something similar on the starting rotation, unlikely, even with Kodase, coming back, the Mets are gonna go to a six-man rotation, talk about Jose Budo has become invaluable to the bullpen. Yes, you could slide him into the rotation, but he didn't even have bullpen. And if the move at the deadline, for one, is to make a trade to get bullpen help, and then to trade a starting pitcher to do that, so that you can slide Budo into the rotation, just to get bullpen help when Budo is already in your bullpen, it doesn't add up. So we've talked about that on this show previously, so nothing that's really surprising there, honestly. But the one note is that the Mets are gonna listen, which isn't some type of jaw-dropping revelation. David Stern isn't gonna get a phone call from the, let's see, who needs pitching? Let's say the Astros call up and say, "Hey, we're really interested in Jose Cantana. "Can we work on a deal?" David Stern's gonna say, "No, screw you "and hang out the phone 'cause Jose Cantana "can't possibly get dealt." He's gonna listen, he's gonna entertain offers, but if a team is paying a proper price for a rental starting pitcher in Cantana, that's very hit or miss, the Mets are gonna take that deal when they're in the race. So I think, again, a lot of this stuff is pretty much what we've been talking about, but there's a few nuggets in here that really did peak my interest. The first is just talking about the bullpen. So they say it'd be very surprising if the Mets traded top prospects for a rental reliever. Big caveat there, rental reliever. Another one a little bit further down, when it's just talking about overall what they're looking at, the last section of this article, and we'll see them and split it up into different sections. So Peter Lanzo was a section, the rotations, a section, the bullpen's a section, the final one was players with club control. Some of the biggest names, this is read directly from the athletics, some of the biggest names generating buzzed this deadline include players with club control, such as Alfred Luis Robert, Jr. and pitcher Gary Crochet from the White Sox, outfit or second baseman jazz Chisholm of the Marlins. Could the Mets get involved? And then he says that other clubs may have better packages to offer because the Mets farm system has had the best year when it comes to health in particular, but production. And you don't really know if they could swing that level of a deal, but he also closes the article saying given Stern's creativity in the past, with training for players on a club control. And he talks about Christian yellow, which is the most well-known example, nothing should be ruled out. So yes, there's still a world with a match to trade something significant and they make some type of a blockbuster trade, but they're gonna have to get control. They're not going to trade for rentals. And they shouldn't. So I like hearing that when it comes to how they're going to probably address this team, it goes back to Steve Cohen's money because one of the big parts of this reporting from Will Salmon is the Mets still have an eye on their future. So the last thing that the Mets are going to want to do with this deadline is trade a top prospect who would come with a ton of control for a rental. And I know that there's going to be some commenters on YouTube today and I do welcome all those comments where people are going to say, what are the Mets doing? Why would they possibly consider not going on the team? What's wrong with them to not take this opportunity to go out and get a big time start and to the fold? But it's not necessarily realistic when you really think about where they're at and where they want to go. So yes, you want to win this year, but you don't want to win at all costs. And instead, if you're Steve Cohen, you are going to tell David's turns to use your money as much as possible to make creative trades. And I think Steve Cohen at this stage can do that, can say, you know, put some stuff in front of me and let's talk about our options here and they're not going to do anything unilaterally without talking to Steve, although he does let his baseball people run the show. And to me, it just is one of those situations where you are not in a position to trade prospects for this team, for this team. And instead, just like the homemade ton trade, which was noted in this article, you have the ability to go out and get a deal done potentially for some reinforcements by really focusing on absorbing cash in the deal, using cash to your advantage. It's the thing that the Mets can always fall back on with Steve Cohen. So I want to talk about that a little bit more in the next segment, first though, a word from our sponsors. Today's episode is brought to you by eBay Motors, passion drive and patience, where it brings from the winning trophy. It's also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to peak performance from superchargers, roof racks, exhaust kits, LED headlights and more. Whether you're into speed power or style, eBay Motors has got you covered. 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Go to subtext.com/lockedonmets. Now, using Steve Cohen's money is nothing new for the Mets to the deadline. Last year, they did it as sellers. And if they were to sell this year, that would probably be a part of the equation. They're not going to, but if they did, that's always gonna be a car that the Mets can pull and they should pull because other teams are cheap. And you can be their bank and the bank always wins. So you can be creative with absorbing bag contracts to lessen prospect returns, to getting a player that you want that has more control that they might not wanna deal, but man, this contract is an Albatross. Clear that for them, and then they'll be grateful and return the favor. So it makes sense that this is the road the Mets are potentially gonna go down because that's what they did with Phil Mayeton. And I think, especially in the market that they're shipping, the market that they're buying in, that they're shipping. Yeah, they're just gonna send some stuff out. Now, the market that they're buying in, rental relievers, potentially, or just relief pitching. You don't have to give up the farm to get those guys. So part of the equation that helps the Mets is the fact that what they need is the easiest thing to buy at the deadline. Now, finding the right trade, the guys that are gonna come in, fit in your clubhouse, actually produce, that's a whole different story. But being able to make moves with that, how to give up your absolute upper echelon prospects, I think the Mets can do that for sure. And if they are going to give up the upper echelon guys, it does have to be for some type of a player that has control, whether that's making a big splash on Luis Robert, which none of us expect, but you never know, to plug in a center field. Okay, then maybe you're gonna have to give us in top prospects, or you will have to give us in top prospects. But honestly, I think they're in a position where they feel pretty good, just letting the market come to them, finding a couple of relievers where it's an opportunistic move to use your money to your advantage and get a guy to come in that can help you without having to give up a top 10 prospect in this system potentially. So which teams need the Mets to be their bank? 'Cause we're closing here. And I was looking for teams that were pushing up against the luxury tax, and there was a couple that came up. The first one is the Rangers who are 14 and a half, basically million dollars over the luxury tax. Now, to get under that, if they decide to be sellers, they can trade Max Scherzer, they could trade Nathan Evaldi, and they could probably get under it just clearing those two salaries. But in general, the Rangers are a team that is trending more towards selling than buying base and how they play this year. And if you can swing a deal with them, money might be something that would be beneficial for them to get off of their books. And there was really one name that jumped out, that's David Robertson, who is making a combined one year guarantee of 11 and a half million dollars. We would look at all the intricacies of this deal, which included a five million dollar sounding bonus, five million dollars deferred, a one and a half million dollar option on a seven million dollar mutual option. So super strange contract for Robertson, but just keep it in the back of your mind as a name that's getting paid a lot, that there's probably not a ton of teams that'd be willing to make that deal, and then potentially have to have deferred money on their books for years to come. Granted, a million dollars a year, nothing too insane, but it's just one of those things to think about, right? I don't think we often realize how cheap these teams truly can be and how much money does move the needle. So it's important to talk about these things. The next team that I saw that was just over the luxury tax was the Bluejets, they're $8.4 million over, somewhere around there. Now, if they sell and they trade Chris Bass and Kevin Costman, they're gonna be fine. They also have some other contracts in the books that they'd probably love to get off, whether that is George Springer, Kevin Kiermeyer, Justin Turner, don't see the Mets in on any of those guys. The name that does pop out is the same when we talked about on the show last week, which is Chad Green. Chad Green has a lot of experience in New York. He has pitched very well this year. It makes a lot of sense for the Mets to pursue him. At the same time, he's getting paid 10 and a half million dollars a season. And not a lot of teams will sign up to pay that unless he's gonna close for them. And while you can make the case that he can't close, I think he's probably better not in that role. So we'll see if the Bluejets are selling and if they do, maybe the Mets can swoop in and get Chad Green. I do wanna note that I've been talking about Chad Green on this show for some time now. And funny enough, that was one of the names mentioned in this article when I was talking about being able to absorb that money like they did with Filmmeton. Couple other names have jumped out for the Cubs. You have Drew Smiley and Hector Norese. Norese has been about average this year for the Cubs. He's pitching to a mid-3Z all right, which is not bad. But he's making a good amount of money. Nine million dollars, there's an option next year. If he hits a certain amount of innings pitched or games finished, that would trigger and allow him to make nine million dollars again. So I think getting that contract, all for their books in Chicago is probably a good thing. Maybe that's a name that's available. Another one, as I mentioned, Drew Smiley. He's been very good this year, pitching in a relief role, but he's still getting paid at starter money. So he has a $2.79 year rate as a reliever this season and 30 in two-thirds innings pitched, but he's making 10 and a half million dollars. And there's a mutual option for a 10 million dollar deal next year with a two and a half million dollar buyout. So that right there is a contract in Drew Smiley where you call him up and say, "Hey, we'd love to insert him into our bullpen and we'll pay everything." You might just get Drew Smiley. Very similar to what I talked about the Tigers, right? If you were to absorb from the Detroit Mark Canis contract, maybe even Andrew Chaffens, maybe you can get a Jason Foley for a lot less when it comes to the prospect return, but that one you are trading for guy that has control and the Mets would probably have to give up more. So this could instead be a deadline where you just see David Stern's plucking talent here, plucking talent there, finding the guy on waiver. So we'll pick him up and he might be good. That could be the move here. And that's what we've talked about a bit lately, that maybe the Mets aren't going to be aggressive buyers or sellers, they might just sort of stand pat. And if you had to ask me, it's one of the three things, that's probably the one I lead on now. Things can change, right? They could end up with a package where they're getting a relief picture that has multiple tiers of control and then that allows them to actually decide to push the chips forward. But barring that, barring some other blockbuster that I'm not seeing, I think what's gonna happen here is pretty clear. The Mets are gonna add a couple of arms to their bullpen, likely guys that are making too much money based on their production this year or other situations where maybe you decide, you know what, we'll pay the final couple months of Patrick Corbin's contract and we'll just release him but now give us whatever relief it is for doing you the favor. Those are the things that the Mets are gonna try to take advantage of. And if they do, it might turn into a very good period. Honestly, it might turn into a very good deadline where the Mets accomplish exactly what they set out to but they don't have to give up the farm. So when you sort of get yourself prepared mentally for what's gonna happen at this trade deadline, understand that the big, big trades are unlikely. The Mets trading for someone that's gonna be starting and in line up every single day for the rest of the season, the you went assessment is trade, if you were, that one's not happening. But it does not mean that the Mets can't get significantly better continuing to invest in this team financially and holding onto the prospects so that you don't have to invest this way in the future. I mean, that's the whole reason why the Mets are averse to trading prospects because they don't wanna be in the position that they've been in the last couple of years where they are trying to reload or get ready for a big, big push and to do that, to actually get those enforcements in, you probably have to trade prospects that. The Mets just don't wanna give up. So this is gonna be a deadline where we're gonna see what David Sterns can do, how creative he can be with his newfound resources. And I really do believe that when it's all said and done, we're gonna be happy with exactly how this whole thing ended up shaking out at the deadline. But until then, there's gonna be nothing but speculation on any and all the guys who have been rumored to be attractive at least, where teams might be calling on them. We'll see, we'll see. For now though, I think you look at the road ahead for the Mets. It's just about continuing to win and put pressure on the front office that this is a team that is very good. It just has a bad bullpen. So if you can do that over the next couple series here, you got two, I guess the Yankees, Luis Hill and Garrett Cole are pitching on their side, Jose Quintana and Shamanaya for the Mets. You never know what can happen. It's gonna be a lot of fun to see exactly how the Mets can respond after such a rough series in Miami, but I think this team has what it takes and hopefully it is a good week of Mets baseball ahead as we are inching closer and closer to that deadline. Anyway, that's gonna be all for today's show. I appreciate all of you who tuned in. 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