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Edwin Diaz Won't Cure All With the New York Mets Bullpen

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06 Jul 2024
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In their final game without Edwin Diaz, the New York Mets got blown out against Paul Skenes and Pittsburgh Pirates.  

Jake Diekman was at the center of another bullpen meltdown, giving up the first of two grand slams in consecutive innings.

Host Ryan Finkelstein breaks down the loss and how Diaz's return alone cannot save the Mets bullpen. However, Shintaro Fujinami looked great in Double-A.  

Could the flamethrower soon be called up to help an ailing bullpen?

 

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It's the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Edwin Diaz has finally completed his 10-game suspension, but his return alone can't fix what's wrong with the Mets right now. You are Lockdown Mets, your daily New York Mets Podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Hello to all you amazing Mets fans, you're watching Lockdown Mets, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. Thank you for making Lockdown Mets your first listen every day, Lockdown Mets is free and available on all platforms including YouTube. Well, the Mets lost an embarrassing fashion on Friday night, I will talk about that game in the first segment. The second segment I'll talk about the return of Omen Diaz and how this bullpen's issues go far beyond just getting him back. Jake Deakman's got to go and a lot more has to change if this team is going to make a run this year. So we'll talk about that a little bit. Then in the final segment, I'm going to try to give you some reasons of optimism for why the Mets can still get back in this series and win it against the Pirates. Before we get to any of that though, I'm your host Ryan Finkelstein, if you want to find any of my work, follow me on X at Finkelstein-Ryan, if you want to find some of my writing at justbasebo.com where I work as the managing editor. Now Edwin Diaz is finally done with his 10-game suspension, he can be back in the Mets bullpen on Saturday, he will be back in the Mets bullpen on Saturday and he is very much needed. He'll set everyone else back in line, Diaz is the closer, Garrett and Nunez can get back to setting him up and hopefully that can stabilize what has been a very erratic unit over the week and a half that they've been without Edwin Diaz. If you told me at the beginning of that 10-game suspension that the New York Mets would go five and five without him, I might have signed up for it but I would have been looking at a slate where the Mets were about to play the Yankees for two games and then the Houston Astros for three games. The first five games of this stretch looked to be pretty daunting although the Yankees are playing even worse than the Mets right now, they blew a game against the Red Sox tonight that was very Mets-esque regardless, the math changes throughout that 10-game span because the Mets beat up on the Yankees and sweep the Subway series. Then they beat the Houston Astros and have a concert after the game win 72 and that one and they're on a three-game winning streak without Edwin. Once then, they lost five of their last seven and you look at the games that they've lost, three of those games they held the lead. Two of them, the game was tied in the eighth inning and yet they lost all five, winnable games. Granted, this one on Friday night was definitely the least winnable and it was not the bullpen that blew it. It was Luis Severino that blew the lead early and then the bullpen just made a look disgusting. You'll find things to blame everything on the bullpen is probably overstating the issue but it's the one that's glaring and is just right in our face right now when you're watching this team. They had to figure something out. Now in this game again, it wasn't entirely the bullpen's fault. You had first of all a very tough matchup for the lineup. Paul Skeens is really good. We all got to see it even though he didn't even have his best stuff and the Mets made him work for it, he was there pitching the seventh inning and looks so strong and that's a guy that is so talented that the pirates should be adding up this deadline and trying to go for it because any year where you have Paul Skeens healthy, try to get that guy in the playoffs because he could take it places. That guy is really, really good. With that said, the Mets got on him a little bit early. Jeff McNeil had one of the most surprising home runs I've ever seen just because it was Jeff McNeil as cold as he's been right now hitting a home run off of a 99 mile power fastball from Skeens granted that pitch got a ton of plate and McNeil was clearly looking for it and crushed it. But that put the Mets up and then they got another run on the fourth inning. Pete Alonso lead off double advances the third on a sack fly from DJ Stewart Francisco Alvarez got drilled on the elbow or the forearm area. That was scary. Seems like he's okay. He finished the game. So fingers crossed. There's nothing that comes from that a glacius drove in Alonzo with a ground ball that he was able to beat out to avoid the double play. He looked great at third base by the way. The fact that Joey Wendell got any playing time on this team to start the season and that both Joey Wendell and Zach Short made the team over a glacius is pretty funny in retrospect. I thought he played a pretty good game. The Mets were up too early. And Severino was cruising until the fourth inning gives up two solo home runs. Now it's all even then in the fifth inning he gave up a two run shot and the Mets are trailing four to two but there was still a road map to win was get into that Pirates bullpen and Sevi has to hold them through seven that that was sort of how they could maybe come back and the Mets could not get schemes out of the game until after the seventh and then in the seventh Severino had a meltdown. Now I think things could have been different if Harrison Bader caught the fly ball that went over his head to lead off the inning. Yeah, it's minding granddall hit one sort of comes in on it didn't go back on him very hard. It really just got on him quick and that's a ball that Bader would tell you he should have caught. That would have been one out. Maybe things are different but they aren't he gives up the double Michael A. Taylor who was jumping in first pitch each time Severino never made the adjustment. He gets a base hit runners on first and third. And then he walks the bases loaded. What does Carlos Mendoza do to counter what's going on with that Pirates line up the way they've been getting all over Sevi. There's some lefties coming up so he says, you know what, I'm going to get Jake Deakman. That's my counter. Let me get Jake Deakman. Let me throw him out there and maybe Carlos Mendoza's playing chess with his front office. Maybe. Carlos Mendoza knows how bad Jake Deakman is and wants him off the roster and said, you know what his arm would do. We're going to lose this game anyway. Let's get Deakman out there because he's going to serve up a grand slam ball and I can just put my hands up and say, you know, I'm trying to get him through it. I'm trying to put my veteran out there and let him pitch his way out of this. But I had a show talking about that opened two days ago. Jake Deakman's got to go. Well now look at it. I said on that show, he's flirting with an era over five. Well now it's there. And three of those runs, they go to Severino, not him on the grand slam. Severino's final line after the grand slam that Deakman gave up six plus didn't get any outs in the sixth seven runs allowed on nine hits two walks. I mentioned before the start on yesterday's show that Louise Severino could pitch himself into the all-star game. Well, guess what? He just pitched himself out of the all-star game that quickly. He's got a three, eight, three year right now. So Severino, enjoy your all-star break. Now Deakman after giving up the grand slam gave him a base hit and he walked a better and it fell like he was just looking into the dugout trying to get out of the game. I want to know part of it. Maybe he's done. Maybe he's 37 years old. He cashed his last check. Thank you, Steve Cohen, for four million dollars. I'm going to go retire. I don't know. Or maybe he ends up in the raised bullpen again, just like after he got cut by was at the White Sox last year and he turns himself into a great pitcher again, but it didn't happen with the Mets. I'll just tell you that. We'll talk about that a little bit more in the next segment. Beyond Deakman, Ty Adcock comes on. He actually gets through that eighth inning or that sorry, gets through that seventh inning, goes back out for the eighth, gives up three home runs, including another grand slam. Louise Torent had to get the last out of the eighth inning and that's how bad it got because Adcock only had 45 pitches again, apparently, and now it's his 46 pitch, and they just all right, let's let's bring interns. And of course, whenever you see a position player come into a 14 to two game, he gets in out easily. The pirates set a franchise record for home runs in this game. They also did something that no team has ever done. They had a pair of players at least do something that no team has ever done in major league baseball history. Routing to Lez and Brian Reynolds became the first pair of teammates to each home or twice in the same game while also each having a grand slam. Ultimately, all losses count the same, but this was an embarrassing loss and hopefully the meds can bounce back from it. But really, the bigger question is, what is it going to take to solidify this bullpen? And when Diaz is great, well, we'll see if he's great, but it's great to have him back at least beyond that, though, how else can this team get better internally? Because I don't see a trade happening until the deadline. They got to prove that their buyers themselves with what's in-house before they go out and make a trade. So what's in-house to fix things? We're going to talk about that in the next segment. First though, a word from our sponsors. Today's episode is brought to you by prize picks. Prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps, prize picks is just you against the numbers. All you do is pick more or less on two to six player step projections and you watch the winnings roll it. Get in on the daily action with your friends and become part of prize picks community today. You can now win up to 100 times your money on prize picks with as little as four correct picks. So you can turn $10 into $1,000. 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If you're an everyday listener to the show, make sure you become a locked on Mets insider. This is our texting service. We get updates from you any time some news breaks on the Mets. You also can ask me questions any time and you get these starting line ups sent to your phone each day in a graphic so you never had to go on social media. If you want to be a locked on Mets insider, find the link in the episode description. Go to subtext.com/lockedonnets. Now on the same night that Jake Deakman came on in a bases loaded no out situation and he gave up a grand slam. Shintaro Fujinami came in a similar situation in Bighamton in AA. Bases loaded, nobody out. Noel McLean got the start for the Rumble ponies. McLean is the Mets two-way player, hitter and pitcher, although I haven't seen him hitting much. I don't know if they're starting to give up on that experiment, but he hasn't done either well lately and Fujinami saved his bacon tonight because McLean's final line is five innings pitched, two runs, only one of them earned on eight hits and two walks allowed five strikeouts. In the sixth inning of that game, Fujinami gave up, excuse me, McLean gave up three straight singles and then he walked in a run and then Fujinami came into the game. First battery faces, strikeout, second battery faces, strikeout, third battery faces, strikeout. He stranded all three runners by striking out three batters in a row. And now on his rehab, he has four scoreless appearances where he has yet to allow a hit. That's how good Fujinami has been and granted the first two came in Port St. Lucie, one in the Complex League, the other in low way. You don't want to read too much into that. But since being in double A, his last two appearances, six up, six down, five strikeouts. Chitar of Fujinami is the reliever I think most of us were probably the most excited about when the Mets signed him this off season. The reason being, he's got electric stuff. This is a guy that can touch 101 with his fastball. He's got a nasty split, throw a cutter as a starting pitcher last year, he had like a five-pitch mix, but those three pitches are really the ones that you're going to see him feature. And he has a chance to be nasty. I mean, there was stretches last year when he was in the Orioles bullpen after getting traded from the A's to the Orioles where he looked really good. Then he had some bad outings and then early this year he looked horrible with the Mets. He was walking the world, he was hitting batters, he was in his head, he had a late start to spring and just never looked right. Now, whatever was ailing him has been cleaned up and they have been working with him to get out of his head a little bit, focusing so much on his mechanics and just throwing the baseball because he has great stuff that he's got to trust. Fujinami might be the guy that saves everything for the Mets, he could be. I don't know how many appearances they want to see in the minor leagues. Right now he's pitching like every three to four days, so you got to see him, if not pitch back to backs, at least start to pitch every other day before I think you'd be comfortable calling on him, so don't expect it tomorrow. But at some point Fujinami could be a different maker. So that's one guy you look at. Eric Orr's is another one, a potential guy that could come up and maybe could surprise us who would make his debut if he was promoted this year as a rookie. But we haven't seen him yet and he pitched on Friday night. As did Josh Walker, who's on the 40-man roster and would be another guy that you would think they could call on if they decided to DFA Deakman, Walker would probably be the first answer as a lefty to add to the bullpen until you can bring back Danny Young if that's what you chose to do. Meanwhile, in Syracuse in this game on Friday night where Orr's and Walker pitched, you had Tyler McGill make a start. He went three and a third, walked five, gave up four hits, allowed two runs, struck out seven and was saved by the bullpen. In the Syracuse bullpen, I swear this is the most frustrating thing ever. They went five and two-thirds scoreless in this game with guys like Josh Walker, Tyler Jay, pitching and we've seen them pitch for the Mets and it hasn't worked out. And after the game, I swear they probably weren't trolling but I sent out a tweet about this because it felt like they were trolling the big league club. The Syracuse Mets Twitter account tweeted out the standings or the stat that they are 41 and two this season when they lead after six innings, 41 and two. But the Mets can't find anyone outside of Daniel Nunez that's worth a damn on the big league roster out of that bullpen from Syracuse. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. And again, when it comes to the roster moves for Saturday, I don't know what they do. They might just put Edwin Diaz on the roster and that might be it. I don't think Jake Deakman is going to be gone immediately. Ty Agcock, yeah, maybe they get rid of him because he threw a bunch of pitches. But who's coming into the fold when, like I said, Orr's pitched, Walker pitched, Cole Solster through two innings the other night. So I don't know. I don't know who could be out. I'm not even going to focus on that. I'm going to focus on the rest of this season, particularly before the deadline. Like, what do the Mets have going for them? They have Diaz, Garrett and Nunez. That's it. And Adrian Hauser is good in the role of the admin. And you hope that Adam Antavino can continue to progress based on some of the positive signs we've seen lately. So that's five relievers maybe. And I'd almost look at that as four, like Hauser and Antavino, the count is a half each. You don't fully trust them. Maybe Fujinami is a guy and maybe we can see him after the all-star break, like right after the break, maybe he can get inserted into the fold. That would be like a realistic timeline. Hauser Budo right now is pitching out of the bullpen. We'll see if he stays there. He could make a start on Monday if the Mets want to push Christian Scott back a day to give him extra rest. You don't know what they're going to do. And then maybe I could see David Peterson sliding into the bullpen as the left-handed reliever at some point when you get Kodai Sengo back. Okay. So those are the guys that I sort of look at as, okay, maybe I could see them being successful. You add it up. It's eight guys. You know that you need 10 to 12 guys cycling through that bullpen to have any sort of effectiveness. I just don't see it. And when it comes to Deakman, I did a whole show on it. You can go back and watch the one from two days ago about why I said they got to cut the guy. It's ridiculous. And one of the frustrating things I found tonight, looking at his page at MLB.com is they showed his nickname. You know what his nickname apparently is? Gut it out. That's Jake Deakman's nickname, gut it out. What has he gutted out this year? I mean, man, he's been brutal. And here's another little wrinkle. I saw someone tweet this out today. Interesting note, there is a vesting option in his contract. I forgot about it. Looked it up. It's based on appearances, not innings-pitched appearances. So you look at his innings-pitched this year, he's at 26 and 2/3. But this is an appearance-based option. If Jake Deakman hits 50 in appearances on the season, he gets a vesting option for next year for $4 million again. In what world can the Mets allow him to get close to that? He'd have to be so lights out over the next two weeks that you want to keep him around. And honestly, I would just cut him right now. But again, there's not two pictures you can grab. You can say, all right, bring in Diaz and cut Adcock and Deakman from this bullpen. But I don't know who you're grabbing right now. It's frustrating. Jake Deakman has a 506 ERA now, and he has 22 walks and 26 and 2/3 innings-pitched. It's been brutal. And the past month has been even worse than that, significantly worse than the past month in change. Go back to June. He has four strikeouts, I think, since June. And that's what he's supposed to do. You bring him into that spot in this game because you think he might be able to strike out a couple guys or a baton from the left side. Didn't happen. 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So as much as you can point the finger and blame him for everything that's happened with this bullpen this season from his ineffectiveness to the injury to the suspension, all of it, I still believe he has good stuff and I really think that his value to this bullpen is so immense when it sets everybody else in their proper roles. To be able to go to regare it on Thursday when it's a zero, zero game in the eighth inning, but you know you still have Edwin Diaz, so many he wasn't suspended to have been able to pitch Garrett in that spot and potentially have him get through the eighth and the ninth even and have made it a bridge to extras for Edwin Diaz to pitch in a potential safe situation. That could have been the difference in that game and there's a lot of moments like that where guys had to pitch earlier or later than you want them to and you just get into this spot where your bullpen is constantly trying to put guys into roles that don't fit. We saw it all last year where had the Mets had a healthy Edwin Diaz in 2023 and David Robertson would have been allowed to be the eighth inning guy, I think the Mets are at least not sellers of the deadline and definitely way more in the mix. So Edwin Diaz being back is huge and having arrested Nunez Garrett and right now out of Montevino, that gives me some hope that if this team has a lead over the next couple days, they'll be able to hold on to it hopefully, hopefully. Now you also look at the pitching match ups. David Peterson versus Bailey falter on Saturday, falter has a 387 ERA on the year. He has pitched a little bit better at home and we'll see if that's going to hold up. Against the Mets earlier this year, he gave up a couple runs and got knocked out of the game after I think it was four innings pitch. So I honestly think this is a guy the Mets should be able to do damage off of. They have a way better line up now than the one that squirts her runs off of them earlier in the season. Yeah, JD Martinez and Marc Vientos into the fold. I think they're going to be able to do well against falter and I'm looking forward to seeing David Peterson pitch again because he's been pretty good as last couple of times out. So I think that's a pretty decent match that the Mets have, maybe a slight edge on or at least close to a draw, but they have a far better line up the Pittsburgh despite how good they look on Friday night. So hopefully the Mets can even up this series and then you get to Sunday and a sham and I inverse TBD. We still don't know. It would have been Jared Jones, he's on the IL. They replaced him with a position player and they're playing right now with a, not really a man down because they still have eight men in the bullpen. But a man down in the rotation. So are they going to go with a bullpen game and try to just use the bullpen to get themselves through the all-star break or are they going to call on somebody from AAA to make a spot start? We still don't know. In either situation, the Mets should have an edge with Manai on the mound. So if you handle business and you win those first two games, then yeah, you got a much tougher matchup on Monday going up against Mitch Keller and that's a game the Mets might not win. If you get out of this series and they take two of the final three, I'd be okay with it. And really you look at the slate until the all-star break while we wanted to see the Mets create great separation in the wildcard race. At this point, just get to the all-star break with your head above water. And to me, that means you almost flush Friday's game and you look at it as you have three three game series before you get to the all-star break. Three more against the Pirates, three against the Nationals at home, three against the Rockies at home. In each of those series, granted, of course, this one would just be splitting a four-game setup. If they can take six of the next nine games, go into the break, that would make them what they're. They're two games under right now, so that would put them at what? A game over? Quick math on that. I'm not great at that, but close to it, right? All right. Let me look at the standings. Let me do this really quick. There what, 44 and 46, the top of my head, no, excuse me, 42 and 44. So if they went six and three over the final games, that would make them 48 and 47 off. The two games over. If they can do that, by all means, that would be a pretty good close to the first half of the season. You come out of the break, you play four against the Marlins on the road, you got the Yankees on that slate as well. But if the Mets can just keep themselves over 500 or get themselves back to over 500 by the break and play a good final two weeks before the deadline, they're not going to be sellers and they might even conservatively buy in a couple of areas. But they have 22 games left until the deadline to make something happen and to avoid being sellers. And I don't know which way is the better one for this franchise. You can absolutely make the case that this team should sell what they can, take advantage of that position one more time and go into next year as strong as possible. But I want to enjoy good baseball for the rest of this season. So hopefully we get a little bit more of that version of the Mets that we've seen throughout June and in spurts throughout this year in general that could play some really good ball and can keep themselves in this race. But the three and a half games out now, they were on the doorstep of a playoff position a week ago and now you've gone, you know, two and five over seven games here. This could be disastrous. This could be a stretch where you look back on the season and say, man, how do the Mets not take advantage of their schedule? But none of these teams are giving games away. The Pirates still believe that they're in it. The Nationals still believe that they're in it and the Rockies are still a frisky team that isn't good, but ending team could be good for a series. It's not that they have complete scrubs over there. There's still big league players that can beat you. So you got to handle business. You got to do what you're supposed to. Let's say this line, I can start hitting again. And if the bullpen can be solidified with the as back into the fold. Hopefully it's a fun weekend of Mets baseball and I'll be there with you throughout the entire ride. Make sure you check out tomorrow's show. 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