With a series victory nearly in hand, the New York Mets blew a 6-1 lead to the Houston Astros on Saturday, as Tylor Megill allowed four and the bullpen failed to get the final six outs.
Host Ryan Finkelstein breaks down the pitching meltdown, and where the Mets will turn for reinforcements.
With news already out that Megill is heading to Triple-A, what relievers could be coming up to provide the Mets with a lift?
Also, if Christian Scott is coming back to the Mets, are they going to be able to juggle their rotation without adding a sixth starter?
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It's the lockdown podcast network, your team every day. The New York Mets blew a game that they were winning six to one against the Houston Astros and as a result Tyler McGill has been optioned to triple A. What is next for the Mets pitching staff? I'll break it all down on today's show. You are locked on Mets, your daily New York Mets Podcast, part of the Lop Don podcast network, your team every day. Hello to all you amazing Mets fans, you're listening to locked on Mets, part of the locked on podcast network, your team every day. Thank you for making locked on Mets, your first listen every day, locked on Mets is free and available on all platforms including YouTube. On the show today, a frustrating loss to discuss Tyler McGill could not get the Mets length and he has been optioned to triple A Syracuse because of that. We'll talk about the game in the first segment, then the second segment, I just want to talk about the roster management. Anyone who's been listening to the show for a while knows I wanted the Mets to make this move on McGill sooner and it seemed to blow up in their face a bit on Saturday, so we'll go through what happened there. In the final segment, I will break down who might be coming up to help this tired bullpen on Sunday who's also potentially on their way back down to Syracuse. Before we get to any of that though, I'm your host Ryan Fickelstein, if you want to find any of my work, follow me on X at Fickelstein, Ryan can also find some of my writing at justbasebo.com where I work as the managing editor. The New York Mets had a series in hand on Saturday thanks to their unbelievable lineup that continues to just crush against good starting pitchers. For Amber Valdez has not had the best year but still, it's a guy that carries a lot of name recognition and the Mets jumped all over him and it was the back of their lineup that did it. In the second inning, you had 6, 7, 8, 9, start a rally that netted the Mets five runs. Really impressive stuff, Tyron Taylor draws a lead off walk, Mark Viento's ripped one through Hosel Tuve, I say through because he hit one right out of Tuve, but 100 miles per half of the bat is a one or a two hopper, he had no chance on it, ate him up and they ruled it a hit. That put runners at the corners, nobody out, Hosel Iglesias who went three for four starting against the lefty with a couple of doubles, if I'm not mistaken here. So he hits a chopper and horrible play by Framber Valdez trying to backhand flip one to the plate and he had no shot at the plate anyway. His only play would have been to set his feet and try to fire to first, but just an awful defensive play that scores a run. Then you have Harrison Bader from the 9 hole gets a base hit, that scores another one. And then you turn it over to the top of the lineup, Francisco Endor strikes out, Brandon Nemo drives in runs and then Peter Lonzo singles him in five to one Mets. So you're sitting there in this great spot, if you're Tyler Miguel, you got a five to one lead and then even better after he got through the third, Mark Viento sits a solo home run his 10th of the year, 108.8 miles per hour off the bat, 429 feet dead center. His power is legit. It's so cool when you see these guys that, you know, I've now been doing this show since the 2019 season and there hasn't been a ton of prospects that have come up and deliver. These are the guys that I started covering back in 2019 when I first did this show and to have done these shows about Mark Vientos in 2021 and 2022, talking about a kid that had 40 home run power and now to see it actually start to be realized at the big league level. It's really awesome. He just continues to crush. So I could not be happier for Mark Vientos and what he's been doing and how he has been solidifying himself as the third baseman of the future for the New York Mets. Brent Bay has got to figure his own stuff out at some point because the other Mets could of course move Vientos to first, but the way he's played offensively, the way he's hitting Mark Vientos is the guy at that position until further notice. So again, getting back to McGill, you're sitting there with a six to one lead through, you know, the, the first three innings and he was at 43 pitches, comfortable pitch count. This was a start the Mets desperately needed length at a Tyler McGill gives up a home run early, but look good other than that. Fourth inning, what's the disaster and you needed to put up a zero in that inning after the Mets had just really grabbed the momentum of the game. You put up a scoreless fourth. The Astros might go out quietly, but the Astros are a good team that has been putting together really good at bats over the last couple of weeks and has been as hot as the Mets really and they got to McGill. Three hits. McGill hit a batter and all of a sudden six to four. And McGill was still at just 65 pitches through four innings though. So again, you needed length. You needed him to get through six. It's how when McGill got through six innings and gave up the four runs, I would have said, you know what? It was a good start, not a great start, but hey, at least he gave the team length. Fifth inning was the inning to me that I was completely out of McGill because even though he put up a zero, it took everything and it took honestly Francisco Alvarez willing him to strand those runners Francisco Alvarez working really hard behind the dish to make it happen after every pitch, trying to pump him up with confidence, mound vids, it's like everything you could have getting through it because basically what happens, he walks to his L2 and then four pitches. They have first base open when you're on Alvarez comes up. Why the Mets had a mound visit and tried to talk strategy about how to not pitch to Alvarez when he is the tying rod to play it when you could have just stuck up four fingers and set him on his merry way to first is beyond me, but instead they waste everyone's time as McGill throws a bunch of curveballs that he is no inkling of even offering at. He takes his base and then McGill has got his pitches way out of it and he does, okay? He gets two big strikeouts, but again Alvarez really had to get it out of him and these batters are falling off pitches, he just can't put guys away, eight pitches to Jynor Diaz, seven to Jake Myers gets the strikeouts, but 15 pitches right there all of a sudden, he really don't have any prayer of getting through six and even with that the Mets needed him so bad they tried anyway. So Mendoza sends him out there for the six gets a quick first out and then he walks John Singleton and that is his day and John Singleton, 224 hitter this year at the 651 OPS attack him, attack him because maybe a John Singleton is pitched to, he might roll over one, you might get another quick out and maybe tie adcock could have entered the game in the seventh instead of in the sixth and then that might get you three hours closer, whatever it is, two hours closer either, adcock was great. That's the one reliever that you can say that about on Saturday. He got the Mets out of that sixth inning, got them through the seventh, got five outs without walking a batter, allowed just one hit, one strikeout, really good performance by him. Might be enough that he can avoid getting optioned after it, even though we threw a lot of pitches we'll be talking about how the Mets are going to get around their bullpen issues in the final segment today because they are very tired with no off-days in sight. So we'll go through that later, but the Mets still needed six more outs. Almost at the finish line and they just didn't have enough. Jake Deacon comes on, walks the first two batters that he faces, got a strikeout, got a grandad that put runners in scoring position, but those first two walks are going to kill you. They always do. Carl Mendoza goes to read Garrett, trying to get out of that jam at least. I don't know if he was trying to get four outs out of Garrett, but he's just trying to piece it together. You can't really blame Mendoza too much with the cards that he's been dealt. Garrett comes on, he walks the first batter that he faces, throws a wild pitch that scores around and walks another batter to load the bases again and then gives up a hit to Alex Bregman that officially blows the lead. So between Deacon and Garrett, four walks, four walks is just unacceptable. But these guys are pitching on back-to-back days, and I think part of that could have been avoided a little bit regardless, it doesn't matter. We'll talk about that in the next segment as far as where I believe the Mets mismanaged the roster this week. Danny Young came in to get Garrett out of the jam. He got Yord on Alvarez out, but then he gave up some runs of his own in the ninth inning, and it just got out of reach for the Mets, where they couldn't come back into a game that they had already won as a lineup. So where do the Mets go from here with Tyler and Miguel in this bullpen? 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You want to be Locked On Met Insider, find a link in the episode description to go to Subtext.com/LockedOnMets. For those of you who have been listening to this show throughout the past week, I was wondering, day after day after McGill's last start, why he was not optioned out of the rotation. Because there was an off day on Monday and an off day on Thursday, it made all the sense in the world to get an extra arm in your bullpen, especially after the news of Edwin Diaz getting suspended after that whole thing happened on Sunday, it made it even more evident. I was talking about option to McGill on the Sunday show last week, a week from today. I was mentioning, hey, why not grab a ninth arm for the bullpen. And then it was like, oh, well, now you have a chance to still have a full bullpen for this week. Granted, the Met's front office proved me wrong originally because throughout the series against the Yankees, the Subway series, the Met didn't really need an extra lever. They were rested on the front end of that, on the back end of it, they were fine. And I guess they wanted to evaluate Tyler McGill through one more start. There is a pattern that I think I might have keyed in on, and you never know if these things are down to a science or not. But all executives have their little methodology, their little checkpoints that they like to hit, if they're trying to make an evaluation. There's things that they like to do when it comes to how they look at their town. I think there might be something and I could be wrong about wanting a starter to get seven turns through a rotation to make an evaluation on them. The reason I say that, Adrian Houser, seven starts. That's what he's made this year. Now, granted, six of them were in the rotation, then he had some relief appearances, and then he made a spot start. But I feel like that spot start was a little bit of an audition of, oh, maybe you might still be able to be a starter when that start didn't go well. It was our year in the bullpen for probably the rest of the season. Jose Budo made seven starts, started walking guys at the end of it based on how the roster was set up. It just made sense the time to option him. He got optioned down to get some more work in Syracuse to really be put on ice almost, and also because you had guys like McGill coming back. Now this was McGill's eighth start of the season, but his first one was prior to an I.L. So since he's come back, this was his seven start. Maybe the Mets really wanted to evaluate him one more time. And granted in the long run, maybe that is all for the best. It's hard for me to sit here and be like, Oh, I know more than Davis towards the Mets front office. I'm not saying that. But what I would say is if I was in that front office, right, if I was an analyst or whatever it is, and I was part of the conversation, but what the Mets plan to do, I would have been advocating for Tyler McGill to be sent down last week, last Sunday, or even Monday this past week here to one, allow you to have your best guys going in the series against the toughest team on your schedule before the all start break. So that would have meant having Luis Severino start one of the first two games that would have meant David Peterson starting in that series in this series as well on Sunday and knowing that you could still go to Christian Scott or who's or Jose Budo in this upcoming week, which the Mets might do anyway now, but you would have had an extra arm in your bullpen through that whole time. And you also would have started the clock on Tyler McGill being able to be reinserted back into this rotation. If you need a spot starter during this period between now and they all start break where maybe the Mets don't want to roll with the traditional six men rotation or is it six men rotation ever traditional regardless a six man rotation because of Christian Scott potentially coming back into the fold. So it made all the sense of the world. The Mets didn't do it, Tyler McGill has a bad start. Their bullpen is taxed all the hell and to me it just feels like something that could have been avoided. Does an extra arm win you the game on Saturday in that bullpen? Probably not. If cold soul source in that bullpen, do they win the game? No, but if Luis Severino makes that start, I think they do win the game and you could say, well, Sevi's probably going to win the game on Sunday. You don't know that. You don't know the Mets lineup even if it is a bullpen game for the Astros, which as far as I've seen that is the plan at this point, unless Hunter Brown is going to get the nod, but regardless, maybe the Mets have a cold day offensively and you wouldn't know that going in. But to me, it just made the most sense to have that reliever the whole week and to option McGill off of what we saw last Saturday, which was a guide that just wasn't quite good enough right now. They chose not to do it. Maybe they wanted that evaluation period and now that they have made that evaluation, he will get optioned. All right. So what does that mean moving forward? Well, Gary Cohen on the broadcast mentioned that Christian Scott could be getting the ball on Tuesday. So if they're going to do that, essentially what you're looking at as far as the road ahead, you got Severino pitching on Sunday. Hopefully he can deliver a victory to the Mets David Peterson to open up the series against the nationals. Then you would have Christian Scott breaking up him and Shama Nye in the rotation, and Nye would then be bumped to Wednesday. You go back around Jose Quintana to close out that series, then Severino and Pittsburgh, Peterson, and then you have to make a decision on Christian Scott. Is he able to go on a five-man rotation or do you need to add a six-starter? Jose Budo would be available if they wanted to. They could slide him into the rotation really at any point starting on Friday or even before he started on Friday and Syracuse. So probably available to go as soon as Thursday, even so you can make your decisions on what you want to do. Maybe you want to break up all the lefties. So maybe you want to go to just a six-man rotation at that point that is Severino, Peterson, Scott, Manaya, Budo, Quintana. That might be the way they do it. So it's left, right, left, left. I mean, and that makes a lot of sense and it all can work out. I still just feel like the Mets made a mistake by not getting McGillather rotation sooner and also starting his clock because if you want to have an extra arm in your bullpen, but Christian Scott can't pitch on four days rest, you could have navigated this time period where you could have gone with that A-spot in your bullpen. On the days that you need a spot star, you could have plugged in Jose Budo for one and then Tyler and McGill are for the other one and gotten through this stretch without needing to go to a six-man rotation. Maybe the Mets want to. And coming out of the break, they're going to have another stretch where it's 13 games and 13 days, I believe, so they might need a six-man for that. So maybe the plan all along was get to July or move either McGillather, Peterson and go to a six-man. If that's the case, hopefully it works out for the Mets. We'll see exactly how it all shakes. But I feel like there was a missed opportunity this week and it was like all the worst fears that we had sort of talked about were realized in that game on Saturday where the bullpen was taxed and the guilt didn't go deep enough. Hopefully Christian Scott and/or Jose Budo, when they enter the fold, start to give the Mets a length out of their rotation because if they do go to a six-man, you need these starters going six because you're going to have one last arm to play with in that bullpen and they won't go to a six-man until they get Diaz back. So that's the thing. But based on how everything lines up, they're able to comfortably do that. So we'll see exactly what the plan is with the rotation moving forward. Maybe the Mets will make an announcement on Sunday about the rotation ahead here if Scott is indeed going to start on Tuesday or maybe they push him to Wednesday. Keep Peterson, Manaya in line. We'll see exactly what they do there. But the bottom line is Tyler McGill is out. 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I think that's a guy that you look at his final season when it's all said and done and then you can really evaluate what the Mets might have there with Clifford. Luis Analakunya has his season average over 270, OPS over 700, and a lot of Mets fans want to see this guy up. I don't think we'd see that until after the trade deadline. If Akunya plays a role in this team, I think it actually isn't even until the rosters expand and then in September he can be a speed demon who would get some starts but really be a guy that comes off the bench, gets a big steal, can play good defense for you in multiple start spots. He's a guy that could be a real Swiss Army knife for the Mets this season, but I think he needs to get as much development as possible with his bat and triple A. I'm glad he's had a really good June. I want to see a great July out of him before the Mets call him up. Go to Haye, you've got Nick Morabito, who has been slumping a little bit lately. We'll see how long that continues. Morabito won't have the top outfield prospects in this system. Jesus Baez, the last time we did a farm report talking about the hitters, I mentioned how Baez was crushing in Port St. Lucie and might get promoted soon. Sure enough, he was up there this week up in Brooklyn that is in high A, went six for twenty one in his first five games at the level with the home run in two doubles. So all of a sudden, there's a lot of guys that are shortstop prospects in the Mets system. Baez was moved over to third base in St. Lucie, I didn't check to see where he's playing positionally now with Brooklyn, but a guy that has now maybe separate himself a little bit from the pack that also includes Colin Hauck, Jeremy Rodriguez, Marco Vargas, a lot of other guys. Speaking of Hauck, he had a good week this week as did AJ Ewing and Boston Barrow in St. Lucie along with Brown Hernandez. I will talk about those guys a little more length on a show where I have more time to really dive into the hitters in this system. It's definitely a system that more favors the pitching right now, but there are some good bats that we will continue to monitor throughout the year. So let's go into this bullpen now. Jake Deakman and Reid Garrett, both pitch back-to-back days on Saturday, so they're burned for Sunday. They don't think they'll be available. Danielle Nunez through, I think, over 30 pitches on Friday night, and I was checking his game logs typically when he goes to or to plus in particular, he gets at least two days off after that. So I don't know if Nunez is available either on Sunday. He might not be good to go until Monday. So who is available? Adrian Hauser through 44 pitches on Wednesday. I'd imagine he's good to go after three days rest. Adam Adavino did not pitch on Saturday. Those are the two guys I can tell you for sure are available for this game after Luis Severino. So you need length for him. I think playing A for the Mets, if all breaks right, his Luis Severino would give them at seven innings. They would have a Hauser bridge to Adavino and Adavino's closing or maybe Hauser looks good and he pitches the final two innings. They would piecemeal together. Ideally, I guess, plan A is SEVY goes seven and the Mets score like 10 runs and you just have Hauser mop up the rest of the outs and you just close off this series and hopefully give your bullpen a day rest. But all good plans get foiled and for all we know Severino won't give you length and then you're in trouble. So what do the Mets do with this bullpen? Ty adcock through 23 pitches in this outing today, but he looked really good. Danny Young through 25 pitches, hasn't looked good since he's come back. I got egg on my face a little bit on Danny Young. I went to bat for him, hasn't pitched well lately. I think he's heading right back down to Syracuse. That one I would almost guarantee. McGill also heading to Syracuse. So that right there gives you two spots. I also want to note, as I was trying to find what relievers could come up, I looked at today's starter and it was Joey Lucas, he went six and a third, just saying. He allowed just two runs, by the way, with eight strikeouts, one walk. Let's go through the options. You got Josh Walker, hasn't pitched since the 26th, so a couple of days off, he would be fresh for an outing. Matt Festa and Cole Sols are both have not pitched since the 25th. Those are the three guys I would look at here. Josh Walker has been up and down throughout this season. He has a 5.11 ERA in the big leagues and Syracuse, he's been the lights out, 1.6.1 ERA. In June, he has not allowed a run or a hit, excuse me, he's allowed one hit. I gave him a little too much credit, but only one hit in seven and a third innings pitch with 14 strikeouts, six walks. I imagine Josh Walker is going to take Danny Young's place, so I think we can almost just lock that in. The question then becomes, do you bring up both Festa and Solsir, an option adcock, or do you keep adcock and then choose between one of the two? I think adcock pitched well enough that you'd hold on to him, so I'd imagine it's going to be one of Festa or Solsir, and I'd make the case that it should be Matt Festa. Now the Mets picked him up and since coming over, he has a 1.7.6 ERA with a 0.9.1 whip and 11 appearances in Syracuse across 15 and a third innings pitch, and he has gotten multiple innings on various occasions. So he's more of a bulk guy than Solsir. Solsir has been pitching one inning spurts down in AAA, so I think Festa makes more sense considering the state of your bulk head. Solsir is on the roster, that's the one sort of edge he has on Festa, but the Mets can clear up ample room on their 40 right now. They have Brooks Rayleigh, still not on the 60-day IL, and the Abzur Smith, still not on the 60-day IL. Those two guys can easily get moved over, and you can make room for a Festa. So I think Josh Walker and Festa come up, but there is a world where they option not only McGill and Danny Young, but also Thai adcock, and then all three of them come up. You have three fresh arms to slide into your bullpen, which might just be the move, because you just have to figure out however you can get by, that's the best thing for this team. So we'll see. If the Mets ever needed Luis Severino to give them length, it is in this outing on Sunday, and we'll see exactly, let me look up really quick and see if the Astros announced a starter, just in case there is information out there that I have not keyed in on. Sean Dubin is the projected starter. So it's a bullpen game. It's a bullpen game. Dubin has been pitching out of their bullpen, and has a 5-6-4 ERA on the season. So bullpen game with your A's on the mound, hopefully the Mets can deliver, and get a serious victory, keep things rolling before they hit the road and head back to DC. I'll be breaking down what lies ahead against the Nationals, as well as whatever happens on Sunday on tomorrow's edition of lockdown Mets. I appreciate all of you who tune in. If you're listening on the audio side, follow rate and review wherever gets your podcast. If you're watching on YouTube, the new goal is not only to get to 9,000 subs, but get to it by the all-star break. We are really close, we're within 200, so please do me a favor, hit that subscribe button if you want to follow me on next you can do so @FinkleSteinRion and follow the show at lockdown Mets. If you want to be locked on Mets Insider, find the link in the apps in the description. We've got subtext.com/lockdownmet. 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