Out Now With Aaron and Abe
Out Now 586: Twisters
This week, on Out Now with Aaron and Abe, we're talking Twisters! Is that where you take, uh, one part vermouth, one part gin, you put it in a can, shake it up, add a little bit of a rind of a lemon, and an olive? It's close. Wait a minute, I forgot my introduction! We are now recording, and this is Out Now with Aaron and Abe. Hi, I am Aaron and as always, this is... Hey! Hello, how are you, Aaron? I'm doing well, it's a sunny weekend, I got out to some disc golf yesterday and relaxed. Oh, nice, how are you doing? I'm doing well as well, I went out to go have some lunch with the buddy, and uh, another buddy joined, and then we had coffee, and then it just became like this little outing. It was nice, it was great. I felt like an adult. You wore pants and everything? I did, yeah. Well, no, I mean, there were track pants, but still, you know... That was enough. Well, if you couldn't tell, Out Now is a film podcast, or Abe, that's got some new movies weekly. We did get to film the Amosis Pro for your review of the Kickstarter track, or some other fun movie topics. This is episode 586, 586. Wow, I don't know where this is, but 580 degrees is too hot for anything to cook, so don't use it on your oven. Hey, May, 1986 is me, baby, so there you go. Yeah. Sure. And this week, we're talking Twisters. Ooh, not the hot spot, the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You couldn't hear, but I wouldn't... You bet you made a hand symbol? No, I did sound effect for the... I didn't, I can't, Zoom is not allowing me to hear this sound effect. So for the listener, Abe is certainly making motions with his lips. Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's very sad that you can't hear my wind effect. Anyway, joining us to discuss Twisters we have from Deep Blue Sea, the podcast, staying as far away from the suck zone as possible to J-Cluit. Right hand, right hand left, right hand right, let's screw that up. You're out, gravel, hello, how are you doing? I'm doing well, thank you both. I'm thrilled to be back here to talk about this. Jay, why do you constantly fund this fake accent for all the listeners? I'm sorry. I'm thrilled to be back here with you all today. I knew you're a tornado, Jason. Oh, I know you're from Arkansas, Jay. Clearly, he has to do that a lot. I'm a langle, a tornado today. Oh, boy, you don't want to hear the outtakes of Abe's English accent. Oh, they're magnificent. Yeah, and it's not entitled to hear them. That's for sure. Jay, glad to have you here. I'd love to have our English correspondent back on the podcast for an episode. We'll be back for a very English film today. It was very embarrassing for sure. Some might say the most English. The most, yeah, exactly. Let's get to some show notes before we get to the main swing of things here. First up, I choose views of ratings. It's good to get those. It helps out the show helps other people find the show. If you want to log into iTunes or Spotify, you can search for our show out now there and you can give us a little star rating interview. It'd be great. Thank you so much in advance. Speaking of, if you were to go to those places to find our show, you'd see a lot of cool stuff, including our latest commentary track for Chunking Express. Hey, Abe, you're on that one. No, I wasn't. That was my twin. How'd it go? It went well. I was really, I enjoyed the conversation. Speaking of Mark, it was really good to have Mark on there and kind of expousing so much love for a movie that he had just seen very recently. So it was great. It was always good to have everybody on there. I also just love that there's so much side banter about just movies and movie knowledge and movie history in general, that sometimes we're just like, hey, look, this is a cool shot. We had some pretty cool wild tangents in the Chunking Express episode. But I'm very happy we did it. It was very fun to talk about Wonka. Why? It's part of our global set of internet of commentaries for the summer. We talked about running a little around. We talked about Chunking Express. And coming in August, which is a few weeks away now, we'll be talking Kiki's delivery service in honor of its 35th anniversary. So stay tuned for all that. What other bonus shows are coming up? Well, it's a good thing I asked that question to myself. People know a friend of the show, Professor Mike Dillon, often has a kind of a contest. He puts together for Monster Palooza. And one of the prizes is that the contesting is to choose a movie, a horror movie for us to talk about with him at some point during the year. And that is planned for the end of this month. We're going to be talking about Creepshow, the George A. Romero, Stephen King collaboration Creepshow, which I'm looking forward to talking about. That is a fun movie to discuss because of all the things, including Stephen King's acting in that movie. So stay tuned for Creepshow. What else? Well, oh boy, these 12th annual summer movie gamble. Full effect. Big movie release this week. Jay, you're a part of this nonsense. Oh man, this is, of course, where we predict the top 10 highest grossing films of the summer. Abe and I, along with many other frequent guests of the show, all are steeped in competition. And boy, was there a big release this week with Twisters? It made a whopping $80 million for the weekend, which is higher than predictions, higher than expectations. Double certain predictions were certainly lodged it into the end of the conversation as far as how high it is to go. But yeah, 80 billion, that's going to take it a good away. So we'll see where that ends up. But no slouch is behind them. Despicable way four made another $23 million. It's at $259 total right now, domestic, of course. Inside out two made another $12 million. It's at $596 domestic. It's past Super Mario, like both worldwide and domestically. It's I think like Incredibles 2 is the next stop as far as how high it needs to climb to become like the biggest animated movie ever. I think it's past Frozen 2. I don't have all these numbers in front of me, but it's making a shit ton of money and it's not slowing down very much. So that's, that's where things are. Speaking of not slowing down, long legs last weekend made what a $23 million. I must applaud that. Thank you. And oh boy, another $11 million of 48% drop. That is amazing for horror. A horror movie, especially horror like long legs. Not a movie that's like, oh bad. It's so exciting and fast paced. People don't fear not saying that after long legs, but it made another $4 million at $44 total. I'm not expecting it to clip the top 10 because it's just not that feasible at this point, but that's a good number for a horror movie like long legs. So good on them, good on neon for that one. Yeah, I just need long legs to stay in cinemas for two more weeks, because I haven't seen it yet. In two weeks time is where I can get back to the cinema. Ah. So I'm hoping I just need it to still be there. It can do it. I have hope by your faith. I think it'll be there. You're doing this podcast or a panic room right now, right? You're still waiting for it. Yeah, yeah. The door locked moments before we ended in. It's on a timer and I've got 13 days and it opens again. And Dwight Yokem's hand is completely crushed, but you're still locked in. Oh, that's the... Yeah, it's actually cut off. I just have the hand. It's still moving. I don't know what to do. Little concerning. It's a thing, origin story. I'll see what happens. Yeah, but Dwight Yokem there. So I asked him to sing you a song. Yeah, he's the other side of the door. It's soundproof. Oh, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. Well, let's give the... You didn't hear him yelling when his, or screaming when his hand got... Speaking of not hearing, Dwight Yokem... He's fine with it. A quiet place day one. Oh, oh. Six million. Beautiful. Oh, more, less. Okay. Now we don't want to go on tangents. I don't want to get too far away from that. We can finally get the toilet. Yeah, sorry that we're rooting box office, Doug. I appreciate you jumping on the segue when it... When it made it so... Much like mall security guards. I always jump on their segue. One 27 total for quiet place right now. Doing quite well. Not doing quite well is finding to the moon. Three million, 65% drop. It's at 16 total. Budget wise, it costs 100 million dollars. That said, it's an Apple movie. So it's like negligible, like it's really better. I mean, sure, they like making money, but at the same time, it's like... What do they really matter to us? Bad boys, another $2 million at $1.89. It's like, I believe the biggest non-superhero, grounded action movie around right now. Like, it's passed John Wick 4. Like, in terms of those very specific subsets, it's doing better than pretty much everything else. And yeah, that's pretty much it. I mean, we could talk about Horizon if you want to, but it made under a million dollars if it's at under 30 million total. Did you guys already discussed that Horizon part two is now delayed? I mean, you were on last week. I mean, I believe, yes, we did. We talked about the fact that we were going to do totally an episode of Horizon in August, when we could naturally talk about both parts. Yes. And now that episode is a TBD. They ruined our plans, Aaron. They ruined. That's what hurts me the most. Like, I've been trying to get on the Kevin Costa trade for a long time, and he threw me right off with this. Well, I mean, you know, I emailed Kevin's representatives. I didn't. And they're just like, "Yeah, we'll talk to you in August." I was like, "Yeah, this is great. This is all a lie." And so it just really hurts my feelings that I did all this work, which I never did. It's weird that you emailed them at kev.financiers@gmail.com and that they responded. Well, they asked me to send the money first, so I did. That's probably-- That's enough of the box office. Yeah, let's get out of here. This thing is certainly going as far as big hits, what have you. So anyway, let's move on. Let's get us a bit of a quickie. Great, Mike. Each one of you will be able to do that right away. Yeah. Thank you. Jay, what have you been watching recently? Not a lot. I don't go somewhere as much these days, but I so this is my first time. This is the fourth film I've seen this year at the cinema. Oh, boy. This was Twisters. Yeah, it's a slow year for me. So I caught on Disney+, the young woman in the sea. How'd that go on Friday? I enjoyed it. You won't think we're going to cover this on Deep We See The Potty Girls. It's all about water, but we're not. What would we think? What would we think? But no, it was just a cropped up. My wife would want to see it. So hey, let's watch it. And we watched it. And it was a lovely movie. Yes. Daisy Ridley, Stephen Graham's in there as well. And Chris Ferekel's Cakes is a fun role. Two pieces of sea. Oh. Yes, you could call him very much. Many words. This is the Nighad prequel, basically, which is odd because we watched Nighad like two weeks ago. And so now we're watching a young woman in the sea. And they're saying, oh, she's going to be swimming. So that's sort of like 16 hours. But Nighad did it for like a week. So this feels nothing. I get it. It's like a decade earlier. But oh, like 50 years. But I thought it was actually-- I couldn't be able to like Daisy Ridley's character more where Nighad's like, oh, she'd be a short angle. Yes. Yes. I didn't need to hear the story of how Nighad means water nymph again. I can't remember what Daisy Ridley's surname was. And so I don't know what it meant. It wasn't brought up all the time. But that was a good thing. And I hadn't even made us think. Yeah. It's a channel, right? She's Jill Channel. That's her name. Yes. Yeah. She's yes. That's why they named it after her. They did. It used to be called that wet place between England and France. But now they call it-- We didn't know what it was. Yeah. Apparently it was some sort of ocean. Who knew? That was the day we found out one ocean was. But yes, for a film I didn't really know much about going in. Didn't have any high expectations for. Just chuck it on on a Friday night. That was a good time. And Steven Graham, always fun. I love Steven Graham. I love Steven Graham. Bear ass in this film. What a delightful treat. Classic rock power move right there. More than you'd expect. Yeah. And then with a credit score. It's a Jerry Brooke film. What are you talking about? No one blew up in this film. But it was still good. And if you're a fan of Killing Eve, and you know that Kim Baudner is in this. I think, "Oh, is Kim Baudner going to do his delightful laugh on Killing Eve?" Yes, he does. It's all the time. And so it's a reason to watch a lot of this to hear him laughing now. I might put that on later, because I'd been wanting to see that, and just didn't get around to it. And now it's on where it was originally going to be, Disney Plus. And so now I have the perfect reason to watch the movie, because it was intended at home. There we go. All right. Great. Abe, what are you watching? I watched the original. But I watched Twister, which we'll discuss later. Yeah, and I also watched Beverly Hills Cop Axolaph. You guys talked about this like a few weeks at this point. Did you ever compare Jay's favorite holiday, July 4th weekend, of course. That's right. Yeah. Where I was working diligently through the night. But it's a pretty good movie. I think what I liked the most about it is that there are ridiculous situations that are treated seriously, that have enough weight in them, so that it's not a Netflix throwaway movie. And that feels really refreshing. Whether it's Eddie Murphy making a joke about something, and then his daughter saying, "You don't even know how old I am." And then having to do this weird shootout, and then him having the answer. But also, all the stuff with Joseph Gordon Levitt, or whether Kevin Bacon, and it just feels like an actual movie that they actually cared about. Maybe this is like Eddie Murphy saying, "I'm sorry for coming to America too." And here's where I can't actually be really good. And trust me, I know when to turn on when I turn on. But Eddie Murphy is so good in it. I mean, as much as I was not a vet of coming to America, it was a hit. Like, it worked for people. I don't think he was a zip bite. No, no, no, I'm joking. No, I know. But he seems like he's like, "Well, that work, let me do this thing." But we agree with you on the plot, as we talk about how, and I get it, I think it's that classic Jerry Bruckheimer factor that made a difference. Like, it does feel like a movie. Like, that's the best thing about it. It works as a movie. Yeah. And it's really refreshing, because we all talked about the trailer, we all talked about how it looks good, and it didn't want to really be disappointed by the trailer. And then it delivered. So I'm glad that there was enough of the old stuff too, whether it be like Taggart or Judge Reinhold. And I actually really like the surge stuff. And again, they don't keep going with it. The way that maybe you think that an old one would, like, "Let's play the hits." They do play the hits, but they also know that this isn't a movie that is just based purely in nostalgia. Great. Anything else? Yeah, I'm getting on "The Bear" season three. I think I just finished the teen episode, so that's like five in. And I don't know how many there are this season. Eight? Eight? Okay, so I'm more than halfway through. In classic AIM mode, I will not finish this until like three years from now then. So... You seem to finish TV. You seem to finish TV. There's 10. I do. I do. There's 10 to 10. Oh, sorry. So I've still got, I still got some Steam movies. But so far, so good. That first episode to reintroduce you to Karmy and just all the stuff that he's gone through, really, really good. I really enjoy the music that they're playing in there. I just really enjoy the intensity of what he has gone through and what he's trying to do. And then, obviously, it just moved into all this other stuff with "The Bear." The music and the episode all done by Attica. Attica is in red. Oh, is that what it is? Is that what it is? It's an original track by that. It really was captivating. So now I have much more appreciation for that episode. This will make sense of the second. Did you see "Horizon" app yet? Did you see it? No, because I was waiting for part two. Because you wanted six hours to spend. Exactly. I was like, I'm going to watch Kevin Costner. I want to see all of Kevin Costner. It's not a spoiler to say this, but obviously there's part two coming. Like, so by the end of one, there's like a trailer for two, essentially, but it's like a montage. Yeah. And I saw "Horizon" talking about it. I saw "Horizon" after I saw "The Bear" season three episode one. So it was like, I was like, oh, I like how "Horizon" ended the montage episode. That was the first episode of season three of "The Bear." That's fun. Because it's not much of an episode as much as it's like a vibe. Like, that's what it is. And that's "Horizon" which is funny. Yeah, "The Bear." I'll be curious to hear what you think about the whole, by the rest of the season. Thank you. Thank you for finishing. Yeah. I love the first two seasons, but I just haven't felt compelled to even start season three yet. I don't know why. I don't know why. Probably. Yeah. You can be emotionally draining. The Bear is a perfect watch this at lunch show for me, because I have a very bad habit. Yeah, I have a very bad habit of watching shows where something disgusting happens. Choose that I don't expect it to be. It's like, oh, I'm watching whatever. I don't know, Brooklyn Night Night. Clearly, there's not going to be someone like throwing up or some nonsense. Like, something happens to God. Why? So "The Bear" is like, "I'm probably going to see some amazing food, some prep. It's going to look great while I'm eating." So I'm not like left feeling hungry either. It's the perfect lunch show for me. It makes you very happy. My lunch show is currently Fargo. So once I finish Fargo, I'll circle back around to the bath. Fargo could be another one where I'd be watching like half of it. It'd be like, this is entertaining. And then someone would like have their head blown off. Come on. Yeah, it's good they had the guest spot here today. Exactly. Anything else in? Uh, no, that's it. I've seen a few things this week. Basically, the new releases of the week that also came out to that are not one that's streaming to there in theaters. One is called "Audity." There's a horror movie set in England theme. It's, um, how do I just grab this without giving too much away? It's got what I like about as a horror movie. What I like is that this could easily have been something that came out like in the '50s or '60s from like the, not hammer, but like one of the like equivalence of that time, whereas that's kind of like supernatural mystery type thing taking place, except this, you know, this movie in 2024 is "Goria." That said, the story revolves around a, um, a set of twins. Uh, one is murdered, um, brutally, um, and uh, twins in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a large country mansion. Um, oh. Okay. The, uh, the husband's still living there. The twin, she is, if I don't, if that's alive, she's blind and a, a medium. And she wants to get to the bottom of what happened to her sister and... Who plays this character? Uh, offhand, I don't know. Uh, I can't, I can't tell you that. It's not, it's not the, the person. It's a, it's a nice English lady, but I cannot tell you offhand what the, what their name is. Um, Olivia Coleman. It's not. It's Judy Dench. Shout out to me. I didn't recognize her, but the wise. Carol and Bracken is the name. Okay, no, uh, the great kind of Bracken. Um, and, uh, so I'll give you the big, because this is on like the poster, uh, the, the, the blind twin. She comes over to the, to her, I guess, brother in a law's house and brings a life-size wooded mannequin with her. Um, will, will that thing do spooky stuff? Probably. Uh, the movie itself has a number of twists and turns. It has a number of, they have supernatural horror, haunted house stuff, ghost things. It's like a mishmash of a lot of different horror-type stuff, but it's quite effective. I, it has a lot of good, like, mood and jumps and scares and things. Not like heavy with any of that stuff. Like it has like out and out trying to be like, I'm going to boo after you every 10 seconds. Instead, it just like provides an effective horror atmosphere. It does the job, I think of creating a certain kind of feeling. It's good. I, I recommend watching this movie. I like that it's in theaters right now. It'll be on Shutter soon enough. But like, if you can get a, you know, a cool theater to watch this in, I think there's a, a lot of good stuff you can get out of it. Um, so it's solid, oddity. Um, less solid. I watched My Spy, the Eternal City. Oh, yeah. Now, you might, the first question you might have for this show is, why did you say My Spy, not My Spy Cole of the Eternal City? Well, I'll tell you, because I wrote My Spy Cole of the Eternal City, in my review, as I thought it'd be called, because why wouldn't it be? And then I was promptly emailed to remove the colon, because that is not the title of the movie. It is My Spy, the Eternal City. But someone should let Ivy be known, because there's a code on the title. Oh, I don't worry. When I got the email from the PR people, I was like, let me check on this My Spy business. And yes, Wikipedia, Google, YouTube, and anywhere that's related to, I guess, was it Lionsgate or Prime at this point? Like, they're on top of everywhere else though. It's like, obviously there'd be a colon. It's ridiculous. It's called My Spy, the Eternal City. Did you hit reply all and then, you know, send them screenshots of all this stuff? No, I just, I should have. Part of it was like, you're aware of it. They want to be petty, Aaron. They don't know what petty is. Regardless, My Spy, the Eternal City. This is, of course, the sequel to the 2020. Wow, was that four years ago? Right, because it came out. It was going to come out in theaters in April. And then the pandemic happened. So it got delayed, and then it got moved into streaming on Prime. That's, this is, of course, the Day Patista and a little kid movie, as you get. You get all the tough guys, all the tough guys except Jason Statham do these. So. Meg, the Meg's going to stay there when a kid. Yeah. I was like, are you sure that he didn't do like a babysit? Or that was a diesel? No, the Meg doesn't count. That's not, that, the premise is it big guy on one side of this poster, little person on the other side of the poster. Sure. It is. It is just the big guys in Statham is a shot. Jay, do you have a Statham, Max, or do you have a Statham impression? Do you want to main? It's a Megalodon. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. All right. Megalodon is my way into it. Megalodon is my way into Statham. It just needs to work. I'm a big keeper. Oi. That's my one second. I love micro impressions. My spy on the internal city, the sequel to what was a streaming hit. It did do well. And it's not a bad movie. Like it, I mean, it's not great, but like this, and the realm of these movies go. Even I like Batista. Stupid for life. Yes. This movie though, not good. It's bad. It's, it's the first one because it was going to be theatrical. It felt like a movie, much like we were just talking about with Beverly Hillscop. We're out, which also felt like a movie. This sequel feels like it was made for streaming. It looks cheap. It's poorly assembled. A lot of green screen. Like any sequel where your first movie had Ken Geong, the second movie has more Ken Geong. And the other thing like, yeah, that's what happens. I have nothing against the actors, Chloe Coleman, who was the little girl in the first movie. But when you make a sequel four years later, she's bigger. And the dynamic of Dave Batista and the little tiny girl, it's lessened because like now he's older. It's not like, there's not, there's not enough fun there anymore. There's still antics because you have Batista and Ken Geong, and Kristen Shaw, and Anna Farris is in this for some reason. And Flew the Borg is there to play. If you had to guess, if I told you Flew the Borg was in a spy movie, what would you guess he played? I'd say he plays the funny German guy at the chair. Yeah, he'd probably be German. Yeah. Be a little more specific. What kind of character Flew the Borg would play? He's like the tech nerd. Be like, Dave, you have to go to the left. You're on the opposite side of this. He's the villain. He's the German villain. He's like, he happily plays the villain all the time. That's a pretty good Flew the Borg version, by the way. That's good. I got to give him some props there. Conan, have you seen our history? But yeah, it's movie's bad. It's not great. I have to suck back around and say the stay from the kid film is a cool safe. Yeah, Aaron, get it right. You know what I'm talking about. These aren't like cute comedies where it's like the toughest guy around meets the meets his match. You have stopped by a tough guy kid. I said tough guy kid comedy. Save us like one of his darkest movies. Save us like this darkest movie, just family murdered. Yeah, we're moving goal posts here. I'm not moving goal posts. That's the one scene. And we were talking about being a guy and a little kid on the box. The fate of the furious is the closest you'd get. That's that's where I land with that. That is the closest that's the closest to statham is having fun with a child in a movie. I think you take the relevant clips from all these films. You get a feature length. Oh, we want it. We need to assemble this trailer. No doubt with the Meg safe and the fate of the furious together. And yeah, you got yourself a, you got yourself a, you know, middle school cop. But as one of the transporters, I'm sure has him dealing with a child as well. Yeah, it's kind of right. No, she cute just looks very small in the first. Okay, all right. But no, well, okay. The second one has like a kid who gets sick in it, right? Like he's, he's. Yes, I've seen that one. He's in, he's in Miami. Amber, he's taking care of Amber Valetta and Matthew Bodid and their child. And he's still for their child to school. The kids like get sick. And the kids like clearly French, but because like it's a transporter, but they, yeah, they pretend he's American. It's a fun movie. You know who would do a great research on this? Mark off fire. Action stars and kids and movies. Yeah. How many minutes that they've been together on screen? Spent the most type of children in movies. It's got to be a heart. Well, yeah. Arnold's got a crowd fun. You to do this research. Oh, that's not, you know, still. Well, it's probably still in an Arnold. It's probably a competition. Well, the loan has like a whole movie where he's like an absentee dad arm wrestling. They both, they both have these movies. I mean, that's hoping. That's true. Yeah, commando. Yeah. Arm out. Well, Arnold's commando. Okay, the garden cop jingle all the way. I just had what the Terminator two. I mean, like it's the last action hero. Last action hero. Last action hero. Maggie. That's right. You can't keep this guy over the kids. Meanwhile, still, yeah, over the top. Rockies. I mean, Rocky. Rocky. Rocky two. More five. Rocky two through five. Balboa's meal of intimately. And he's too old. Oh, no, no. He gets the kid from Little Marie. He's hanging with her. So, you know, it keeps going. Now we got to do Willis. No, keep going, keep going. Yeah, no, we got to move on. I mean, he's got the six. Okay. We can move on. I've seen another one. I've seen the kid. Disney. Disney. Don't call it the kid or like a suit. Exactly. I'm going to get a feeling from the mouse. I saw one other movie this week. Yes. I want to wrap this up a good one. It's called Dandelion. Okay. This movie is very good. I like this movie. It's from director Nicole Regal. It starts Kiki Lane from Beale Street. Yeah. Okay. She plays a singer in South Dakota. Singer-songwriter. She's got, you know, like, nothing gigs or whatnot. And she's in like, you know, Midwest-type country area. A lot of like bikers and things like that. She eventually teamed up with another guy. She beat the start writing songs together. Things, it's basically a romance with drama thrown in. It's very much a character study. There's a lot of like John Carney influence in this. Like, once specifically. I can't tell if that's specifically, like, what the director was looking at in making this movie. But it's, you know, looking at, like, two people that write songs together and the movies about the music and the romance. It's hard to not think of once. Regardless, it's more of a springboard as opposed to like a direct lift. It has other things going on as far as what moves the plot forward and where it goes, what have you. It's very good. I really like this movie. It has music by the two guys from the national. What is it? The, you know, I like the national a lot. Bryce Dessner and Aaron Dessner. Okay. That's what I was going to say. And they've done, they've done other things before. I think one of them, like, works of Swift now, like, a lot. But regardless, it has good music. It's good drama, good acting. But I really like dandelion. Very good movie. So ended on a, ended on a high note, as far as the clickies are concerned. There you go. Trent, Tim. Thank you. And that's enough, please. Goodbye. All right. Trying to catch me off guard. That's, that's the game we play. But that's why we keep doing it. Um, let's move on. Let's get some trailer talk. We're going to talk about one of the newest movie trailers of the week. But it's coming out. Well, we thought of it. What have you? This week we're talking Captain America. Colin, brave new world. This is, of course, the fourth Captain America movie, the first movie featuring Anthony Mackie as Captain America. It also features Harrison Ford as both, um, present now presidents, um, uh, the thaddiest thunderbolt Ross, and definitely not the Red Hulk, um, also features other people. G and Carlos Bizito playing, uh, scary villain, uh, again, yeah, a week after I watched do the right thing again. Like, he should play more comedy. Like he's so funny. Like, like, he always has to be so stirred now, but he's always well dressed. So I can't complain too much. Uh, this film is from director Julius Ona, who made both a film called Loose. And of course, the famous Super Bowl release, the Cloverfield Paradox. Uh, this is, I forget what, what fucking phase we're in at this. I think we're in phase five. Yeah, I think it's got phase five. True, yes, it is. We've just arrived at phase five. Right, yeah. TV in between, but yeah, I think believe that this is phase five. But with all, with all of that said, uh, if you would, I, we'd like Captain America movies in general. Uh, yeah, I think that we're like the strongest on the OG Captain America. Uh, we're, we're huge fans. In terms of all the other critics out there, I think we were really, we were huge. I thought of her on, you know, the first Avenger and of course, the subsequent Captain America films, no searches either. Uh, so I want to ask you first, like what are your thoughts on seeing the new Captain America movie Brave New World? I, I think it's okay. I mean, I didn't really have any feelings one way or another. Uh, I'm actually just curious how all the reshoots have been going. Uh, because this movie has been delayed for quite a while. Um, and, you know, uh, whether it was just, because Feige and Co were trying to figure out what they're going to do next with, uh, Disney and also maybe just trying to really set things up. And as the years go on, things change, then maybe they want to make things more relevant. But, um, yeah, I, I, I didn't really have any, uh, yearning to be like, oh, I'm gonna be their day one, which I will be because we're going to review this movie. But I, I'm curious to see how, uh, our guy, um, uh, Han Solo is going to be doing in this. So that's my biggest takeaway is just, um, I hope that Harrison Ford is having a good time. Cause if he isn't, it'll show on the screen. Jay, how are you excited for more Captain America? Right. The, the, the cap films haven't been my favorites, I'll say. I mean, I think Winter Soldier is still the only MCU film I haven't, I've only seen once. I, I don't know why. Okay. Other than some, some of the newer ones, uh, but for no, no reason other than I just, I watched it and I thought, yeah, fine. And I haven't, I haven't felt compelled to, to revisit. Uh, I think first of all, which is great. Uh, Civil War has a big fight in it outside of that. I don't know. Um, there's some good Spiderman stuff in there, I guess. And, uh, but I, I like Sam Wilson. I've been treated to see where this is going to go. Sure. Um, I can't help thinking he's, he hasn't got any powers. He could just fly. So I'm looking to see how that's going to make things different. Jay, can you fly? I can't. It sounds like he has an hour. I'm not sure. No, but I actually, I thought the same thing that Jay thought when, when you see him jump out a window and I was like, is he going to be okay? Yeah, I don't mean to take anything away from him. He seems like even without the flying suit, he's still with far better condition than, than anyone I've ever met. Uh, yeah, I've seen him jump out of buildings about the, the wings. He's, he's done it. Uh, but it's just, you know, the Captain America film has always been based around like, there's this guy. He's, you know, better than everyone else, literally everyone else. He's better than them. And I'm not saying he said more since now. Morely and physically. Exactly. It's a different take on the character. I want to see how that changes things. I like bringing in Harrison Ford. I, I like the little nod in the trailer. It's like still getting used to the new look. It's like, yes, Mustard gone, not entire facial reconstruction. Uh, so that's, I feel like they dealt with that well enough. Uh, whether it needs to be in the trailer or not, I don't know. Uh, but that's a nice little nod. But yeah, we don't, we don't see a great deal of plot, which is great. Cause I don't like what you tried us. So I, I didn't have anything spoiled for me. Other than you, you basically saying that maybe Harrison Ford is the red oak. I said he's definitely not the red oak. What's the role? I feel like why would you need to say that? Uh, but then Harrison Ford is doing the, uh, narration to the trailer. And that generally means he's going to be the bad guy. So we'll see why they are talking about. I can't do a Harrison aboard old Harrison. Bad. Thanks. I, I, I have intrigued enough as far as I think that the MCU is very aware. The MCU was of course an entity in itself. The MC is very aware that Winter Soldier is like, it's a high point for them as far as just being a studio that can deliver something. Cause that's 2014 when it has that and guardians and they're just like, cool, we made a kick ass Tom Clancy movie in the form of a superhero film. And we have our guardians, they went to huge hit. And if the MCU wants to play the hits compared to what they've been coming out with lately, as far as whether or not they've been successful, which speaks more to the marbles and the turtles and Ant-Man as opposed to big successes like guardians or Black Panther. Good for them because I'd rather see entertaining movies that they, you know, that, that kind of meet the, meet the expectations of what people want out of them as opposed to, you know, getting less so than that. Even though I like most of those, maybe an Ant-Man or two aside. Yeah, yeah, I like Anthony back. You know, I'll be curious to see him in the take on the lead of Captain America. I do that series he was in with the Falcon and the Winter Soldier with Bucky. And what's his face? And Wyatt Russell as shitty Captain America. I like when he got his ass kicked by the soldiers from, I can't believe I can't remember the name. From Wakanda? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like, he just looks at himself like, oh, maybe I do suck. That was fun. But that series of the whole, not good wasn't a bad show. No bad, very good. So what I like is that, I mean, if you're just a guy that's like watching these movies and you don't really care about the shows, I mean, end game ends with Sam getting a shield and this movie starts with Sam being having a shield. So it doesn't really matter. Sure. So I hope that's part of it. I hope we could just like go with that and be like, yeah, there was a show, I guess. Who cares? Let's just have Paris and Forbe president, Anthony Mackie fight. That's always me and Carlos. I don't know if this is the right, because like 2024 is famously the year almost without Marvel films. We have Deadpool Wolverine, but that's like tangentially MCU, if anything. We'll find out, for sure. We'll find out. Yeah. So this has been discussed as being the year where we get to take a step back from here and we'll learn to miss them. And when they come back next year, we'll be great. I don't know if this is the film that's going to draw everyone back in again. Well, that's what I'm curious about the kind of the way it's advertising this open, this trailer alone is very similar to Winter Soldier. And I feel like that's very much on purpose, right? Like if you're going to, if you want to excite people about Marvel again, that's the movie that despite Jay having only seen it once. People generally look at it. It's like a high point for the MC. If people love the Winter Soldier, that's outside of like one or two Avengers movies. That's one where people that go really lock into. So I'll be curious if that's if it does like spark a certain engine for people as far as I see them. Everyone's like, we were like, oh, fuck. These Russo's can direct anything. And then it turned out that they couldn't. Well, they're going to try again. Well, the news in Bratbeck. I mean, honestly, the news that they're coming back is a bit of a relief, because that means they're going to stop threatening us with their other movies, which is like scary part two. I'm happy about that. And honestly, it's like, they made four good MCU movies. I can't complain here. I mean, I was like, I'm going to do more of that. Fine. Like, I know there are rumors of like Sam Raimi is going to direct the Avengers. Like, they're not going to let Sam Raimi do Sam Raimi stuff on an Avengers movie. So like, I wouldn't really, as much as it was strange. As well as it'd be like, strange has a lot of rain. That's why, because it's like its own thing. That's like, it's not trying to be the, you know, the Avengers, where it has to be a very specific kind of thing. It's. That's a lot of Sam Raimi Avengers film. It's a proper Sam Raimi film. But that's the best MCU film ever. It just seems impossible. So it's like, if the ruses are going to come back. Fine. I know they can do that. They've done it. So sure. We'll see. Anyway, Captain America, Brave New World Arrival Theatre is, you guessed it. Valentine's Day 2025. Oh, stay tuned. I hate that it says this February. It was like this. It's, it's, it's next, whatever. Okay, go back to the DC Universe calendar, man. Gee, let's move on. Let's get to our main review for Twisters. We wanted a generation tornado outbreak continues across Oklahoma. We've never seen tornadoes like this before. And we need your help. No, I don't chase anymore. Kate, we can save lives. I'll give you one week. All right, fellas. We got PhDs from NASA, FEMA, and Kate. Just the smartest person I know. Hey, dudes. It's interesting. Who are they? It's Tyler Owens. Calls himself a tornado Raimi. If you're fewer. Yeah! You scared of nothing and I'm scared to death. You know, our crew is not like your crew. I chain breathe and I catch my breath. We don't need PhDs and fancy text. Sometimes the old ways are better than the new. Well, it always just a guy puts his face on a t-shirt. All right, that should have been told with the trailer for Twisters 1996's Twister, with a massive high concept success. The second biggest home of its year, with good reviews and a couple of Oscar nominations to go with it. Over 25 years later, work on a sequel began with Top Gun Mavericks, Joseph Kaczynski, originally in line to direct. While Kaczynski still has a historic credit, he eventually moved on in favor of next year's F1, this led to Lee Isaac Chung, director of the Oscar-winning Manari, to come in with the job of delivering a standalone sequel. And here we have it. Multiplying the budget of his breakout film by 100, Twisters follows a new generation of storm chasers. On one side is Kate, a skilled meteorologist who has returned to Oklahoma to help her former colleague in testing some new tornado mapping equipment. On the other side is Tyler Owens, a self-proclaimed tornado wrangler and social media superstar. While the two sides butt heads, record storms lead to some intense weather phenomena causing all kinds of chaos, Jay, I want to know, are you a fan of Twister and did you like this sequel? Yes, to both questions. I am a massive fan of Twister. It's one of those films that just meant a lot to me growing up, watched a whole bunch have continued to watch a bunch. What you picture America as, right? When you think of America, you're like, "Twister, I get it." Yeah, I mean, is it not? It's actually very spot on. It's pretty much is. I can't go two steps without being like, "Oh, there's a Twister." I mean, they do appear at an alarming frequency over the course of both of these films. I know there's such a thing as tornado season and tornado alley kind of things. But this is a lot. I don't understand why people live in these places during this time. It's like, why? How it just moves? Well, why would you live in gray skies all the time? I don't know. How dare you make fun of America in this country. They've got missed meat pies, Aaron. I just abandoned the country. But also, my house doesn't get washed away. It stays. It remains where it is. But yeah, I love Twister. I love the supporting cast. I love the Philip Seymour Hoffman. The carriell was the villain. There's all of the small parts, all of the character kind of rammed into the love at all. I really enjoyed Twisters. It didn't have quite as much of that supporting flavor. I had some. I'm not saying there's none, there's some. But also, I didn't grow up with it. So it's kind of missing out on 20 audios of Nostalgia, which is no fault of the film's own. Maybe in 20 audios time, I want to appreciate this more. But as is, yeah, I went in thinking, I don't really, this can't live up to any expectations. I'm just going to sit down and enjoy a film. And I really did enjoy it. I don't want to have time. But you also have to bear in mind what I said earlier. I haven't seen a lot of films this year. So this could just be like, I'm back in a cinema. It's air conditioned. That's not a thing here. And so it's just nice to be out, I guess. So factor that in as well. One of the other three films you've seen, because you've got to be curious now. Oh, well, I see. I had a membership that I could see as many films I wanted that ended in January. So I ended with me seeing poor things and. Oh, OK. The holdovers was like, that ends in January. And then we were on holiday. We had a spare of being weren't so furious. Just because we were away. I don't know what to do with anything. So, so yeah, but I think it's a solid set of films. Yeah, I'm not saying I've only seen director this year. I think it's more than valid. Like you're like an excellent set of. No, but if you're going to tell me, you've only been to the set of four, four times this year, it's like, it's pretty good. I get to go on average. Pretty, pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, pretty good. Yes, where are you with the twist with the Twister franchise? Twister, I really like, again, I want to go and revisit it. And I just, I haven't seen it in a long time, but I just forgot how quickly it just gets going for Bill Paxton and crew. I mean, it might have the cold opening, which is just a big twist. Oh, big twist. Baby character. Yeah. And that. Let go of the door. Let go of the door. Exactly. You're doing nothing. Be with your family. Let go of the door. Every time. Probably going to be okay. But that's what Kevin Costier said. That's a man of steel joke. Oh, yeah. I was like, it was a movie. But six, six months in this film. So far, yeah. Yeah, super. Yeah, it's got a little light. It's a layer joke. I get it. Yeah. I also enjoy that Twister is, is, riskily paced in that it is basically like a 24-hour period in which they're dealing with with all that big set. Twisters. Didn't work for me. All right. You weren't blown away. Was not blown away. I mean, not that I was expecting to be blown away. I think I was, I was, might have just been a mood I was in. I don't know. But all this to say is that I, there's a lot of things going on in this movie. And so there's a lack of focus in what, I guess, I'm trying to figure out from either the main character or Tyler's character or even our guy, Anthony Ramos's character. And yes, it's coherent. But there's a lot of like love triangle being put in. There's a lot of like side characters that don't really amount to a whole lot. Whereas like the first Twister, I got to who I needed to know right away, including, you know, Todd Field just being like, this is great. I'm going to do some cool stuff here. And Philip Seymour Hoffman just like really expressing himself. And you kind of just know who that guy is almost immediately. Like for Twisters, there's just I think that it takes a lot of beats and notes from Twister. It doesn't really expand on it, which is not a charge that you can really hold against it. But I just didn't think that what they were trying to propel me to feel for the Daisy Ridley, Daisy Ridley. Daisy had your Jones character really amounted to a whole lot. Glenn Powell was cool and he shows up there and he's like movie star Glenn Powell. But I don't know if all of it works because it just it has a lot of like goofy dialogue, which is not necessarily a bad thing. But I just didn't think that it's structurally made a whole lot of sense to me, especially as as I'm getting like these weird subplots, including like a deviation to her mom, which is clearly a callback to when they went to go meet Lois Smith. But it just didn't have a lot of charm associated with it. And I didn't really I didn't think that I enjoyed it as much as I would have enjoyed Twister. But you know, I'm in the minority here, I think. Well, Twister, the original is a movie that I think is entirely fine. I'm not going to lionize Twister all the sudden. Is it like it's this some golden classic? I think it's a solid disaster film that has fun things in it, specifically the the the cast because it's a time where you can do enough with special effects, but you can't do everything. Therefore, you need to rely on the people and the people are fun. You have a good eclectic cast there of Alan Ruck, Phyllis Europe and Todd, Oscar nominated director, Todd Field. Of course, Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton, who hated each other on set. Christmas, Jeremy Davis. Jeremy Davis. Jake Busy. Jake Carrey always. You know, there's a lot of people that there's a lot of like people that are people more so now than like when in 1986. Yeah, it's such a way to look at guys. And I'll be and I won't be surprised that this cast feels the same years from now. I mean, many of them already have various little things on their own dockets, but it's you know, it's neat to see an assemblage like this because I think it's an impressive assemblage. But like I was saying, Twister, I think it's it's fine. Like it does the job. It's I watched it a couple months ago. Again, because I liked it prepare early and watching this film, I have no problem saying I think in many ways it's better. In other ways, it's not so better. Like it's it a happy medium where I break them about the same because for all the things I like about this movie, there's things I like about the other. I get goes hand in hand at this point. What I enjoy is that it does choose to be a more grounded film. I was curious how much you could really do with more tornadoes of this time around. And I think that the wisely gets that it's 2024 and having special effects to depict Twisters is not going to be as fresh as it felt 28 years ago. So instead, it's like, well, we can't make it more ridiculous because then we'll just get laughed out of the theater instead of what if we like trying to ground it in some semblance of reality. And as a result, you get some cool set pieces here. There's one that's like a one shot after the rodeo where you're like, watch these people like get into a pool and it's all handled pretty, pretty strikingly. There's stuff taking place that's not great for certain people. And the result of it, much like the opening sequence is also pretty harrowing is you have characters walking out of a situation. They don't feel great about it. You don't have go ahead and pal constantly smirking his way through it like you look at him. He's like, he looks upset. He looks, he looks like this. This was not fun. You know, it's one thing to drop my truck in tornado wrangle is there a thing to be like in the midst of a tornado and have to like deal with people dying around me and stuff like that. And I think the film gets that balance throughout. That's what I appreciate about it most I think that it take it knows how to have fun. There's a good dose of humor in this movie, but it does take the scenarios that they're presenting seriously and even tries to go a step further and be like, here look at these devastated towns and look at us trying to help out and things like, you know, there's those elements I think worked for me quite well. Sure. The issues I had stem more from like, I don't think the plot is too complicated. I think it's pretty straightforward as far as what it's doing. It's more, I don't find there to be much conflict here where the first Twister is the first Twister. Kerio was his character and then the Joe's gang. They were both trying to do like the same thing. They both have the same technology that they're trying to race to be the first to use. Well, one of them had it first. Regardless, they both have the thing and they're trying to use it first in the field successfully. Yeah. This movie to use it wants to try to make money off of it. Yeah. Well, you know, function, but they're trying to the science, but they're trying to accomplish the same goal for different reasons. Yes. This one doesn't have any of that because this film is we have a thing. We have a thing we want to test and we really need to do it. And the social media gang, they're like, we just want to drive to tornadoes. There's no like reason for them to be in conflict with each other. There's no reason for like Daisy Edgar Jones to be like, Oh, we got to get to that tornado first or else, or else what? Like, there's no, there's no problem. So I, I kept wondering like, why are they even trying to like put these people against each other when they're neither of them are trying to accomplish the same thing? Well, I mean, you do kind of learn why the tornado tourists might not want to help the, the anti-remesis crew. No, I get, I get the like, they're underpinnings as to what they stand for or what not. But in terms of who gets there first, it doesn't matter. Like, it makes no difference if no, if, if Tyler is there doing tornado wrangling while Harvey and Stormpower are setting up mapping equipment, neither team is affected by this. Like, it doesn't make a single bit of difference. I mean, so keep going. So this doesn't finish that point. The first third of this move, first half of this movie is focused on which one will get to the tornado first, like, who cares? Like, it doesn't make a like, so that for me, I'm like, we need more, we need more for this to go. And I do think it gets there eventually once they finally team these characters up, when they team Kate and Tyler up. And that works for me. I think they have charmed together their chemistry works. I think on their own, Glen Powell clearly knows how to show a smile and make the screen work for him, where I'm not sure Daisy Edgar Jones is this ball of charisma that Hollywood seems to want us to think she is right now on her own at least. You didn't see where the crowd had sings there? I did see where the crowd had sings, and I'm supported by the statements. I said it was the most unintentionally funny movie I've seen all year. Watching this movie, it's like, well, it works when she's with other people. And I felt for the opening, I think the opening is solid. I think the opening is a good job being like, "Tordino's dangerous. Like, yeah, thanks. Thanks,ordino's." They weigh. But just a wrap out that we can keep going. Like, again, I like the set pieces. I like the things that are going on here. I agree about the, like, the cat, there's a good cast here, and they don't utilize them enough. It missed having a big breakfast scene, like the first movie does, where all of them can get together to, like, do a thing and, like, show off, like, the various chemistry for them. Like, there's scenes with them, and they're fun. Like, you know, seeing Soshilade, Brandon Perea, Katie O'Brien, TV on the radio is tuned to be, like, I'm all about that. That's fun. I'm glad that the all these people are here to have a good time. I just wanted to have more of a good time with these characters. So it, you know, there's a lot, again, there's a lot of things I like about this movie that I think make it better, and there's a lot of things about the original that I think make it better. So, you know, I had a good time with this movie. Well, you guys are both wrong. No. But I think one of the things that they kind of play with in this one, again, a lot of the same repeating themes, all of the same repeating elements. I know if I'm intended for the movie, but she's part of, like, she's technically working for the Cara Elwhis type of team in this one. And then it becomes more of, like, a panitarian thing. I think that that's totally fine. Like, I agree with you that there's not a whole lot of conflict in terms of, like, well, you know, we're trying to do something that science tornadoes, and you're just, like, shooting fireworks into them kind of thing. But this is what I was getting at with. There's a lot of plot or there's a lot of, like, stupid character arcs in this because you got that land-bearing guy who shows up. Marshall Riggs. Yeah, for like a minute, they're like, what's this guy's deal? And then it kind of just gets dropped because some characters are just like, that's not what I want to be doing anymore, man. I agree with that. That's a more interesting plot line I would have liked to see, the kind of disaster relief versus, you know, like, capitalism. Like, there's something there that I think is actually pretty neat. And it doesn't really get into that. And it's unfortunate for Anthony Ramos, who, like, we like Anthony Ramos. I think he's a very charismatic person, but he's also saddled with a lot of the, like, I got to be the kind of the guy in the mud over later, like, yeah, that's kind of thing. You mentioned a love triangle. Did you think there was a love triangle going on between? He says, at one point, there was a time where to win anything for you, Kate, as he's, like, looking at her in the eyes and then he's, like, I'm going to go off and work, like, storm, storm par or whatever. It's like, there were, I think there was something there. You're not the first person that I've heard mentioned. I just, I won't get it. I, I don't not get it as far as, like, maybe there was some random time, but like, yeah, yeah, there was no point where I was like, is Kate gonna have to choose? Like, I never thought at all. I never thought for a second that there was, like, a world, a romantic conflict between two different people going, like, no, I think it was kind of written in as a potential subplot that they just kind of didn't, didn't flesh out. It was like, uh, obviously, like, secret with the characters. He really found, he's Kate, but that's it. Yeah, exactly. And there's not a whole lot that I was expecting there. I just was thinking to myself, this is, uh, kind of unnecessary, especially like when, uh, when he shows up at the, the ranch later, he's like, oh, so I guess Tyler's been sleeping at your mom's house too. I was like, all right, I don't need this right now. Just go chase some storms here. I think that you're right about the set pieces. I think they are really good at that opening sequence. You know, uh, didn't love the whole entire like, yeah, this is great. Where energy, like, on the, on the fake recording, but I did love the destruction that, that comes after it too, right? Um, and they kind of do this too with, uh, 1994, 1996 twister, where, yeah, destruction is awful. Like, the J's point, like, why do they live? Why do they constantly live there? If, uh, there's, it's because, you know, the land is cheaper. Um, I will also say that, uh, one of the things that Jay also pointed out, which I thought was kind of funny, was like, does this happen all the time? I guess it does because there's like one day that happens in twisters. And then the next day, they're like, we're, we're all congregated here. And like, there's going to be a lot of tornadoes today. It's like, there are like, you guys are just expecting giant tornadoes to show up. I mean, they live in tornado alley area where tornadoes actually occur, but also there's the other thing that this movie doesn't really want to delve into, which is climate change. Yeah. They delve into it very briefly. They, they, they delve into all of it about actually saying the words, but I mean, it's, it's only more of a factor 30 years later than it was in '96. And the movie is careful to not get into it deeper for reasons and even I mean, you didn't see the wind farms in this movie. And even I'm sitting there being like, I wouldn't want to be like electric climate change either. Like, I get it. I get like why it's not necessary to like delve into it on a deeper level. Although, again, that would make the Marshall rig storyline make more sense as well. But yeah, regardless, it is a factor of the movie, why there's so many tornadoes and why they're even more destructive destructive never. Yeah. Yeah. The film has a message like, you can do what you want. You try to say, say things wind turbines, it's not going to help. This is going to eat them up as well. Yeah, throw them, throw them right back again. Exactly. Giant blades are nearly going to miss you. Did you guys like the? There's a lot of science speak in this movie. I was going to ask you about this. Did you guys enjoy the science like the heaviest like the first movie I think makes it pretty straightforward? We got to think it's got things in it. We got to shoot them in the air. This movie doesn't work. We got to make it. We got it. We can. We have we have multiple versions of it. We're going to keep doing this. That's it. That's our plot. This movie is like, we got it. We have a containers full of moisture, material. It's going to like get inside it and evaporate some sort of like, rapid, rapid evaporation and all that into like baby diapers. I loved all the science. That's like, doesn't know me with the first twister is like, how little actual testing they've done prior to encountering a tornado is see if these things will fly. And then when you got like, Carrie, I was his team trying to do the same thing, but with cubes that is never going to work at all. It's never going to work. It's never going to work. And so I appreciate this. The twisters come was from a background of science of testing of engineering or developing the plan and how's it going to work and mapping all out with it. I've loved all of us. So you're like, the data, Kate, we need the data. Sure. But I mean, at least the line of like, we're going to shoot. What is this interstellar? The data doesn't lie. And just the approach of like, they're not like in the first field where it's, we've got to prepare and we've got to get away from the tornadoes. Here, we've got to kill them. We've got to tame them. I just want Sharknado for the first time. I didn't, I didn't realize that in Sharknado, it was about quelling the Sharknado. I'm wondering in twisters, why don't they just try and drop bombs in them? It seemed to work well in that film. I don't understand that. I mean, you got, you got five war Sharknados to go. So you'll, you'll see how it evolves. You'll see how it goes. They're there. Surprising and early in all of them. Yes. Of course he is. Hey, man, and terra read, not Mark McGrath. He's only in a couple of them, obviously. John heard, John heard, there's a lot of people who was John heard. He's in the first one. He did it before he passed away. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Breaking news. Yes. I just said he did it before he passed away. I'm hoping that was a judge. No, I think that maybe he passed away before Sharknado was made in the release. John heard, okay. No, John heard passed away later. Here's the thing with the science in this movie. Go on. I like that they talked more science, but I believed what they were saying in twister. Like it sounded more like, even though it's like, I believe that they all had degrees and they all had knowledge and even Bill Paxton, who just like touching the earth and be like, I know where the, I know where the sternadoes go and kind of like, I believed it more, even though they talked all this cool science stuff, including looking at her old notebooks about micro physics. And that's kind of where it loses me sometimes too. It's because they, they both are talking about science at one point, where they're basically having exposition in two vehicles at the same time. And Lee, as you're trying, is like cutting between both Tyler and Kate. But yeah, I think that twister, I definitely believe that that Helen Hunt knows what she's doing. I don't know what her, her field of study is, but I know that Bill Paxton and her, her dad died and therefore, she likes to take tornadoes and she must kill them. Yeah, totally. Yeah. But I'm sure that she studied something in college too. I'm not convinced by this. I pretty much picked it from the day her dad died. She's like, this is what I do now. That is true. Yeah. I don't think she went to school ever. I don't think she went to school. I don't think she completed elementary school at that point. She's like getting tornadoes. Yeah, she was just like tornado on the brain. But that's my take on the education stuff in the science stuff in twister versus twister. I mean, I disagree. I like that Lee Isaac Chung takes a lot of effort to, again, grounded, but also you mentioned that cross cutting scene of them like talking about tornadoes or not. I like that. I like that. I felt like if we're going to explore this, if we're going to, we're going to make a sequel to twister, like what do we do? Like, well, let's explore twisters. And I think this would be effectively does that. It gives me with that. And while like playing into this sort of nature of it all where it's like they get to the point of explaining all they can, but they're also like, but we don't actually know what makes a tornado. We can see all the ingredients or whatnot. But like, you know, it's a mixture of religion and science. Like there's something there that make that honestly gave it the connection I needed to say, like, why did Lee Isaac Chung of Benari? Why did he make this movie is like, that's a scene where I can see that connection. I can see the through line of him as a director wanting to invest himself in something like this. And that is something I like about this movie in general that it feels like a movie he wanted to make and was involved in as opposed to a movie where he came on, directed the actors and everybody else did everything else. He feels like a guy that like, whatever vision he had for Twisters, this is like the product of that, which I can protect. Yeah, I also thought about him as a director and kind of just, you know, Benari is based in Arkansas and so he's got some southern background and I can see him kind of growing up and thinking about tornadoes as well. But I would disagree with you on the science. I didn't say that the science wasn't interesting. I just said that when they say it, I don't believe them as much as I would believe a Helen Hunt or Bill Paxton. I believe the cast is excited about tornadoes. I can't say I don't think they're excited about science of that movie. They have a rock star attitude about it. I like this, this, this storm psychic aspect of it as well. But yeah, she has the science of the research also. She just kind of knows. She can see the wind. I like that. Yeah, which we got that from Bill Paxton was had that the first time around. He was extreme. He has all the sports thinking. He had a gift. That's why they all like him so much. He back. I'm not back. Exactly. Immediately. Yeah. Same. Like a lot of question for you guys. Just we're talking about some of the some of the set pieces here. Aaron talked about one one of the pools parts and then there's like a theater part later. But I'm curious. What you guys thought of the visual effects of this all air and you mentioned it earlier, there's no real need to like do CG stuff. You could probably get like some really cool footage of real tornadoes and just put them into the movie with like really cool high powered cameras. Well, I mean, there's no need to go wildly over the top as far as you're talking about a cow and then maybe well, like, yeah, like, well, honestly, yes, like what like what can ILM do that will like somehow make this even more, you know, tornado way without like, you know, being ridiculous. Like, you know, you're not straining credulity to depict tornadoes. And I respect that the film. It keeps that it keeps it level with what makes sense in a reality as opposed to being like, yeah, there's 17 cows and all like, and a shark in there for some reason. Like, there's none of that. It's just like, no, this feels like in an extreme scenario, this can exist. And I like, I do think the effects do the job. It looks, it looks like an expensive movie. It looks like a summer blockbuster. An audience has brought up, apparently agreed, like a minus cinema score and all that like it, it satisfies on that kind of level without like here, here we go. Here's an example. Independence Day, the first one. Massive scale looks fantastic, miniatures and CG or whatnot. Independence Day resurgence, a movie we all love, obviously. The problem, one of the problems of that movie is it's like, what if we weren't even bigger? And it's like, okay, and it's like the fucking like half a globe size spaceship, you lose everything. Like, there's no sense of scale anymore, because it's just like, too ridiculous to like handle. This movie doesn't have like, in the last movie, we had F-5s in Twister's F-6. Like, it doesn't like go like even bigger from the new one. We bet yeah, these tornadoes, these tornadoes are all the worst parts of the bible and other books. Like, it's like, it's just it's, I mean, there is a fire tornado. There's a fire. And which, which has a logic to it, right? It like it comes from a, it's like, naturally, yes, it would make fires or a little bit of it, but it's not overdone either. It's not like, and then the four day, the fire today will chase after us. Yeah, exactly. We had a car chase. It's a pretty standalone sequence. So it's like, on that level, yeah, I think it just does the job of what's needed for a movie like this. Yeah, by the way, yeah, I got to say that I'm making faces because I'm watching Thanksgiving and this movie is terrible. Are you watching Thanksgiving? I just want a little bit serious. I was just watching some of the mega. Watch for someone gets cooked in an oven. Watch deep blue sea. Thoughts on the visual effects in this movie? I thought they were excellent. I I always thought like in Twister, like, they did an adequate job of like, I thought, hey, you can't really mess up. It's a swirly mass of wind. It's going to look fine, whatever you do. And then I saw Chocnet where the effects are far, far worse. You did like MS paint squeals and I thought, ah, I need to give more credit back to Twister for doing a wonderful job 20 years before Chocnetty came out and Twister is better than Chocnetty. Also, better than Twister. And there's more exciting camera work, I guess. I don't think in Twister, there's a lot of cameras going inside the Twister and then going up it where there's more of, you see the cloud cap collapse as it's described. I know some of the lingo now, I didn't know that before. Hey, that's a limitation of the time, right? Because like, if you're going to show, like in Twister, you figure the scent, like the biggest thing this movie could do is show you inside of a tornado because like, that's a climax, right? And that's what it is. The climax is the point. Yeah, this movie is like, we can obviously do that now. We do that all the time, if we wanted to, it's like, so, but how do you make that interesting? So yeah, it does like, no, how to mix it up. Yeah, like the upgrade of Glen Powell's character title, like, the end of the whole point of Twister is don't get sucked in a tornado, don't get out of the middle of it. His whole plan is like, I'm going in there, I'm droned the ground, I'm just going to hang out and shoot some fireworks in it. Why? Because the clicks as well. The news, baby. Yeah, exactly. I love that. That's like their main point is like, we're just, we got a million followers, like a million followers. That's a lot of followers. When you wrangle tornadoes, that's it. I mean, there's, there's people on Instagram that have millions that I'm like, I don't understand. But, um, there like, if there's one thing that this movie lacks compared to the first one in that regard, you know, like, I think the set fees are staged well enough, but like Twister has that seed where like the house rolls in, right? And Bill Paxton's like, I think we're in a dry, in a dry house. This movie doesn't have like that kind of a like tangible thing that happens to him that I, that in the same way. Like it's like, it's lacking like that kind of a thing, which, you know, like when you, when you talk about Twister, I think you can call in like, cow, the house, the big, the big trucks and trucking tools that things from. Yeah, there's stuff like, there's stuff you can literally call it. This movie, it's like, I can point that I've just seen it. It's relevant to me. But like, you know, years to come, I'm not sure if it'll have that same sort of like, you know, fire tornado, and then the same way. I will say, one of my favorites, but no, my favorite scene in Twister is the, the drive-in, where they're playing the shining and the theater. And it's like slowly being ripped away, and you're still seeing the shining. So it's like, that's like, I like, as Jack's knocking through the door. Like, that stuff, I really, I really like that. This movie, I love the meta thing they're doing there, where it has this climax that's set in a movie theater, while you're in a movie theater watching this, which is one thing. But then it's also like, it's a, it's a movie that is forcing people to go to the movie theater because giant spectacles happen. There's a lot of layers going on in this whole sequence that I really appreciate. That's not, that's not by accidents. I appreciated that very much. I was also thinking, am I safe in this theater, if there was a trailer right now? Yeah. And I was like, I don't think I would be. I'm the movie being shown, it's Frankenstein, which is like about a storm creating a monster. Frankenstein, it's a very nice monster. The only other choice that would have worked is if it was Dr. Sleep. Oh, that would actually have been pretty, pretty like thoughtful on the nose, but yeah. Oh, I've already played a wall. I want to start with what I, what I, what I did like. Next year, we get James Gunn, Superman. If you're in and tell me that the cast of twisters, one of them is playing Superman. I wouldn't say the worst guy in the cast, the hobbies partner, Scott, David Corrinslet. This guy, it's not just that he's like a stick in the mud. It's that he sucks. I know he's designed to suck. Like that's his whole deal, but it's like, this was not the best impression. Some makeup is it? I've seen him in other things. So it's fine, but I'm just watching this guy just like, but you didn't like when you put on a safety glasses, like, you know, Clark Kent, and then take him off like he was Superman. I'll tell you right now, those are the ugliest safety glasses. Anybody aware of those things look terrible? Well, I like that their, their subliminal message was safety first. If you're going to a tornado. Safety first. Yeah, yeah, my, my thoughts on safety were going very far this way. They had harnesses on the, thoughts on the cast here. Right. I have not seen David Corrins wet and anything. I, when the name period on the credits, I recognize that name from someone's. Oh, the Superman news. Okay. It's very British. That's why you recognized it. I mean, the spelling's not. But either way, I didn't think much of him. I didn't have any problems with anyone in the cast. I think although, well, I don't want to be the person who doesn't like Glen Powell, but I really find him hard to like sometimes. He's very good at playing a charming bastard. Yeah. He's, he's excellent at playing. And so I find it difficult to like him in things where he, because he just screams asshole. Yeah. Every time I see it really works out. Maverick, right? Because he's an asshole. Yeah. Maverick. Yeah, he is. But like, even a gun to go to like hidden figures where he's playing, I think he's playing John Glenn. Yes. In him, which is supposed to be like a hero. He's cast in America. He screams asshole and didn't fix this. Somehow. Do you think it's a, is it his smirk that gets you? It's the, the comb gutted dimples. I think it is. I don't. No, no, no, no, no, no, that audio clip. Yeah. Put that on a t-shirt. Give it to your attorney. Here's my take on the cast. Too pretty. I didn't, I didn't believe that they were storm chasers. Yeah. I know. Look at Aaron's face. He's like, what are you talking about? Too, too good looking. Everybody here is an actor clearly, and obviously in Twister, they're, they're actors too. But again, Philip Seymour often like kind of chubby, you know, like Alan Ruck still looking like Alan Ruck. But I think that kind of just really took me out of like, Oh, these people are just really like, all their jawlines are super good. And everyone here is like looking like a movie star. Hyundai had a big super cut. What's that? Two and a lion, I guess. Big old beard and a hat. No, no, no, no. He like, you look Katie O'Brien wearing like shaggy clothes to hide the fact that she's a bodybuilder. I dug those two because they looked older and they were also lame. Yeah, with dreads and her teeth. Well, she again, still movie star face though. It's weird. Movie star face. She's not even a movie star. She's been an American, honey. Oh, yeah. She was in a cheap A to four film from seven years ago. You're right. She's a movie star. But she looks like a movie. I want to play out. She looks like she could be a movie star. Everyone's got like a beautiful jawline. I'm like, this is, I'm supposed to believe that your Daisy had your Jones. I'm supposed to believe that you were like, I mean, she's, she's moved to like, they are specifically giving her a look because she's moved to New York and got a haircut and everything. She's coming in here all over there. I mean, Glenn Powell's making assumptions based on the fact that she's supposed to be designed to look. Yeah. And also he's making assumptions because her accent keeps going in and out. Her Oklahoma accent, you know, keeps going. That's the other guy was like, why does he keep calling a city girl? She's clearly not. She doesn't sound like she's from the city at all. He knows it no better. But that was my hot take on the cast. They're just too pretty. I don't believe them. Brandon Parela, which is like his, which is nothing nasty. My facial hair is hat. You're telling me that he doesn't. He's not a good looking guy? I'm telling you, I don't see this like rough around the edges quality. I'm not, I'm not not seeing this kind of, they look like from the, from the country and they're like, I can say they're maybe filmed a certain way because it's 20, 20, 40, but in 96, we're shot. Well, this shot on 35. Well, like, I'm not, I'm not seeing it though. I'm not seeing it. It's, it's glossier by nature of just the technology, baby, but in terms of like the casting, that's not an issue I had at all. Sure. It just, it feels like they've roughed up some very pretty people. Yes. Like the only time I got a, the only time I could argue that is maybe the opening where they're supposed to look like innocent because they're young and nothing could go wrong and that everything goes wrong. I do. I really liked our McCormack. I was thrilled to see him broke up in there. I was looking at it. I was like, I know him. What do I, and then I got it. It just took me a second. I was like, who is, who is this light skin brother? And then I was like, okay, I got it. There it is. Yeah. And if anyone, anyone hasn't seen Bat Sisters, watch Bat Sisters. Bat Sisters is fantastic. And he's still hunting days. Yeah, you're Jones. I got you. I liked Maura Tierney here, reprising her character from the iron claw. That was fun. Exactly. I thought that too. I was like, oh, Southern mother who just doesn't really get what I think. That's when you dissipate too for a while in the, in the third act. When I, when I like about Maura Tierney in this movie, one thing I liked in this movie is basically a sequel to name only. I like that it's not like how one hunt play her right. Yeah. Like if there's an Easter egg in there, but like there's nothing else that's like this is why. And I like that because it'd be weird for Joe to like suddenly just be like a stay at home mother that just raises cows. Like that's boring. Like, no, she died in a tornado. Of course, she's still out there. But as a ghost, we have, we have your regular places. We have Bill Paxton's actual son here. You can argue that that's true. The motel guest is really Bill, Bill's kid. Yeah. What a, what a weird story like that would be. We had a connection. That's their, that's their, that's their child. He dies horribly in a tornado due to ignorance. Nothing from his parents. Hey, the ice is blown hot. But why I like Maura Tierney in this movie, beyond the fact that he's just like solid as an actress. Sure. The, the look she has to give when Tyler gives her a t-shirt, there's like seven different things going on. And that's, that's acting. That's, that's what I like. The counter, the counter part of like what, how he looks at her when he's getting back in the trick. Like, oh, maybe she doesn't like the gift. Like, man, I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah. And there's like three different results. I feel like he could have expected from that. But the look she gives the shirt, if there's so many different emotions going on. It's like, what, what movie are we watching? You can't, what's Tyler's goal here? And I appreciate that very much. If that's the, that's her sign out for the film, fine. That, that does the job. Yeah. What else on Twisters? Good use of both in, in the movie drones and also shots, probably using drones as well. But good dance, good car choreography, where it's like, oh, let's pull up in all park in exact angles perfectly as the helicopter shooting us from overhead. Pretty fun stuff. Just watch there. But I had it. Yeah. The music. Yes. I hated the soundtrack. So American. Yeah. It's not good. So American. If you want to do, if you want to do like Midwest Country Rock, like I get it, it's Twister. That makes sense. Every song is screaming at me at the plot. And I hate it every second. I hate it. And so on the nose, make the home at Oklahoma. Okay. Every, every song. It like it's, there's no subtlety whatsoever. They've chosen and they're all, they're pride, they're prideful about it. I've heard them talking about the soundtrack. So we got some great original artists. We got some great original songs. I'm very sure that the people that are playing like in the parking lot are probably Oklahoma musicians, which is the next one. That's diegetic. That's whatever. I mean, like, you know, like when she, what she tells Tyler to go one way, she goes another. And the song's like, it's so easy to pull something out of man. It's like, come on. Again, a hot take. The music in here kind of takes me out of the movie. Like what you're saying, like the first Twister. No, no pop songs. It's like you do hear music. There's the month after they were driving and the people are singing Oklahoma, and everyone's got their own. That's like, character bit. Everyone gets started. This is the character in here. They like musicals, character in here. Like there's songs. They're just not wildly on the nose. Like on the nose. Yeah. And it doesn't feel like a music video, so. I liked the British representation. The English guy, the reporter. So I want to ask you about that. Harry had him because, did you know where he lived from where he described? I have looked it up and he's so specific. It's four and a half miles from one place to the other. That's how specific he's being between South Newell Wood and Stratton Hill. Yeah. I know South London. I used to live in East London. But how specific he is being is ridiculous. I know that's the joke, but it's, yeah, it's a four and a half mile span. You mentioned Glenn Powell and like, whether or not you like him as not playing an asshole or if he is playing. I, the one time I thought he was an asshole in this movie, because otherwise, I think he's like, there's nothing he's doing that's really wrong. The one time I was annoyed by him was when he started making fun of Ben for just saying where he's from. It's like, well, first off, you asked him. But it's like, what's funny about that? He's just saying where he's pre's big, happy at naming a place. He's like, that seems fine to me. And it's like, that's a jerk move. And they didn't tell him about the straps. I mean, he signed up to go. He signed up to go toward a change. He should know better at that point. I mean, he can't present. They have a million followers. Presumably he's watched one of their videos. Like he should know what they do. Yeah. He's a terrible reporter. I think that's exactly what I was thinking, right? Because he's just like, I'm here for a story. So I want to ask you still situation. She didn't know what she was going to enter. He didn't, he was just, he just shared up on the day. He's very such dumb. I just really like tornadoes in America. Did you like his character turn, though, Jay? We're not going to go down. He goes, and he puts it. He gets a cowboy hat. He won't be a journalist. I'm going to be human. I could carry this at the same time as helping people, but I'm not going to put it down. Matthew Modine in full metal jagged. It's taking photos. There we go. What else, Aaron? I thought you had another question. I did. It was around kind of like the stakes of this toward the end there where, whoa, my power just went out. So hopefully I don't, you're still here, but it was around the stakes of the end there where, you know, it's got a big buildup. But curious what you all thought about, like a hero's moment. And does that, does that jive with the character that you guys know of that is performing this hero moment? Based on the movie I've been watching, the arc suggests that this is the steps that should be taken and they're taken. I, they have the math and the data to prove that feasibly they should be able to do what they do. And I, I like that. I like that there's multiple stages of things taking place. I like that there's an action going on that's directly in line with the tornado. And there's the people that are, you know, potentially going to suffer from the tornado that are being dealt with at the same time. I think all that kind of works. And again, the fact that it's, you know, around the movie theater, I think is very clever. So yeah. I agree. I was thrown off by, there's a cameo in the last scene who like is in the distance and he's like, wait, is that Boris Carlos? No, later, later, very, very last scene in the distance. Like, isn't that guy, and he comes close to screwing his up? It is. I'm taking out of this film now. So I don't know. It's an extended cameo to that deal, but maybe that did not be because he had talked about it on his podcast. I was already about it. I was aware of that was going to happen at some point in the movie. Get it. Yeah, I hadn't listened to that. I also think he's funny. So I mean, that that hell is throwing me off. For one thing, I don't think I've ever sized this up. This movie's corny as hell. Like, I don't think I've, I noted, I noted the fact that this movie is very corny. It's very earnest and very corny. And it's walking that line, not unlike the first twister. And that is something I responded to, where there's no beat in this film that I didn't find unpredictable. It's a very obvious movie, as far as what it's doing. So the fact that I was entertained throughout this thing, I do give it credit for that, because it's not like it's, it's not rewriting anything. It just does the thing that I'm expecting, but does it rather effectively for me? So that's a lot. That's where a lot of my praise comes from, because like, I like the set pieces, but also, it's a really corny film. And so, yeah, by the time you get to the end and you have like, yeah, a resolve for whatever romantic plot line there may be. And like, other silly things are happening. It's like, yeah, the silly movie and more silly to silly, silly, silly, silly. Yeah. I have one last question for you both. Does Lynn Powell get banned from that airport for life? I mean, she should be fine. Very hefty. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. But I feel like there's like, this is an airport federal property? Yes. Abe, it doesn't matter. He'll hand him a couple T-shirts. He'll put him on the, he'll put him on a video. They're fine. They got, there's tornadoes on the way to the airport. Like, yeah, they got bigger fish to fry than superstar Tyler Owens. He's gonna hand him a T-shirt and a smile and be on his way. He'll be, he'll be out of there. Look, if anything, no, let's work him out. There are two massive holes now on the driveway. There's massive holes in the towns that just got wrecked by tornadoes. This is true. Yeah. Well, it's another couple of potholes in that one. Okay. Yeah. That's true. Last real quick. If anything, if anything, somebody needed a job. Look, guess what? You got one here. You got to fill up these holes. Do you not serve this man, Tyler Owens? What is the, what is the title for the, if there's a third one, what is the title, what is the good title for the third one? Twisted. Twist East. Twisted. Twisted Post F.D. Untwisted. Untwisted. No, they, they, I always think like they take the, the debut from Twister and they just turn it into a three. So, total of the Rister. Sure. Yeah. Not the E. No, not the E. You need the W. It's to three. Yeah. It wouldn't make any sense for the E. It's that E is not a good fun letter. It wouldn't make any sense for the E. No. The E is a, it was a reverse three. The W is on its side. It's so deaf. It's going to be Twister Cube. That's what it's going to be. That's what following the following the line. That's how we get more science. Then we get Twister Resurrection. Yeah. I like that. And then they just change the name completely. Twister versus earthquake. I like where you go in with me because Kerry always a son who we didn't know he had in the first one now has a PhD in, you know, physics or something like that. And now they're all storm chasing together. This is a great good call. We did it. All right. We did it. Well, it made a bunch of buddy. So we'll, we'll see what happened. Like just three. It looks great. No, it doesn't. Yeah. The one that I suggested looks great. You're right. The W one looks ridiculous. B three is awful. Twist three is easy to say at least. And it looks fun because like the wind took it. Guys. Geez. To threaster. They went down. Just the W here. When should people go and see Twister's currently playing in theaters and iMacs right now? Follow my lead and go to the cinema for the fourth time this year and go and see it. Fourth time. For me, this is a string movie. I think I had more problems. I definitely have more problems with it than you guys did. This is an easy theater. I'd almost say go see it in 40x to get the real experience. Heard that that was a good experience. This feels like it's made for 40x. Yeah. That's it. I, you know, you do that. Is that water recycled? What? Is that water recycled or is it just like pipe through? It's all the saliva of everyone that doesn't work there anymore. If I saw Twister's in 40x, I'd be disappointed if the screen was intact at the end. This is supposed to be the most likely film. We see a cinema. Your face is going to be so red when they're like, you know, Nebraska Theater reports theater damage after a 40x show and goes terribly wrong. They got a proper screening. They got a real 40x screening. The ones who survived got a real 40x screening. The ones who lived. Yeah. All right. All right. Twister's a movie that two thirds of us say is worth saying in theaters. We've talked about it. We can now move on to something that's tangentially related to Twister's. Hey, what, what time is it over here? Time for a good game here. That was amazing. No fact. Did you know that that's actually the wind chime that plays over at more attorney's house? And they're like, Aaron, this is a cowboy movie. I did a country song. And so they didn't pay Aaron for that little tune, either. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. Is there a country song with a zylophone in it? Probably. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say tune, but then I was like, Jay is going to not like when I say tune. I mean, you can say that. That's fine. It's cultural preparation, but you can say it's fine. Speaking of songs. Yes. The game this week is called Disaster Songs. Oh, okay. What I'm going to do is name the title of movie songs written for specific movies. And I think, you know, the theme of the movie is going to be. It didn't do well. The name of the movie is the answer to every question. Okay. You feel you know, the answer buzz on your name and then the answer is going to lose this. I'm going to lose this. We'll see. Don't worry Jay. I can think of one. I'm going to, well, you're about to know a lot more. I'll try to give hints eventually because this is going to go for a very easy to insanely hard. Oh, okay. There we go. Here's the pretty worth scale. Here's the first one. Okay. My heart will go on, but a yawn. Abe. Titanic, Titanic. Go to the mayor on the board. There. Starring choice to build passion. There's a special sub theme of these are all built effects in movies. It'd be fun if we want to play six degrees of Kevin Bacon at every single one of these movies we can work. Here's the next one. I don't want to miss a thing. Jay. Oh, I'm again. Oh, I'm again. It was the correct answer. It's the one I was going to kick ass right. See you're on the board. So how do we get from home against Twista? Here's the next one. Like I can do this. It's just going to drag this out too long. This is the Wikipedia game with a separate game. Okay. Here's the next game. The morning after by Marine McGovern. Oh, shoot Jay. Okay. The beside an adventure. The beside an adventure. Hey, I was covered on TV. See the podcast. Okay. I think much. Here's the next one. Come with me by Puff Daddy and Jimmy Abe. Abe. Puff Daddy canceled. This is Godzilla. Godzilla is a quick dance. Yeah. Did he's canceled? Puff Daddy alive and well and I did ideas. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay. Well, he's still canceled in my book. Fair enough. There's a period where Mel Gibson's uncancelled for me and then like, but like afterwards, it's like, no, thank you. I'm good. Here's the next one. Bring it by Cobra Starship. Hmm. Hey, Jay. Snakes on a plane? Snakes on a plane. Oh, you cut out. All I heard was Cobra Starship. Yeah. That's all I needed. And the song is technically called bring it parentheses. Snakes on a plane. Close parentheses, but I didn't want to read the soul full title, but you still got it. So there you go. Nice. Here's the next one. Okay. Humans being by Van Halen. Hmm. Here's a fun fact. I believe it's the last Van Halen song. Ooh. Hmm. Can you give me the movie decade? I'm going to need more than that. I'll give it a year. 96. 96 being okay. Jay. Jay. I've got a coin toss here. I'm going to say Dante's P. That's 97. Oh, no. Hey, Jay. Volcade. Also 97. Can I guess again? Can I guess again? You can guess again. Was it deep impact? No, that's 98. It's Twister. Ah, I don't think I've heard. I don't think I've heard. Clearly. And that's why I wasn't at the beginning of the list. Because yes, Van Halen has a Twister song. Makes sense, I guess. The credits. Yeah, the video. It was a hit. It was a hit song. Here's the next one. Okay. Raining Sunshine by Miranda Cosgrove. Rain to Cosgrove. Raining. Jay. Jay. I don't know. The cool. And I have to think of she's alive. That's the same year as School of Rock, but still very young. Okay. The core came out. Oh, that's sorry. I didn't realize I was the name I knew. Okay. Show. Abe. Abe. The upcoming Wicked movie. That seems to be there might be some disastrous things in that one. Well, that's completely wrong. The answer is cloudy with the chance of meatballs. Ah, okay. Yeah. It's pretty disastrous. Oh, I love that song. Raining Sunshine. It's a joke. Here's the next one. Okay. What I've done by Lincoln Park. Abe. Abe. Jay. Transformers. That's correct. Okay. Were you like, to make it those the first one? Was that what your thought was? No, I was like, is that song also in it? Like, was there enough disaster that moved? I guess. You got robot. If guys get toppled, it's a disaster. Got it. That's like that. That's like Godzilla's also on the list. Yeah. Here's the next one. Won't let you fall by Fergie. Jay. Jay. Poseidon. It is Poseidon. Wow. She's in that terrible film. Yes, he is. You got both Poseidon answers. I had a feeling that might go that way. And it did. It worked. There was another song for Beneath the Poseidon adventure. There is. But I don't think you'd get it. Here's the next one. Okay. The movie, the movie that is, it's Beneath the Poseidon adventure. Here's the next one. We may never lose. We may never love like this again by Marine McGovern. Hey, Jay. Let's take a guess. Towering. It is Towering. Wow. Wow. She did too. She won an Oscar for Poseidon adventure. Then she won another Oscar for the Towering and Burner. Geez. That was the opposite guess. Here's a job, Marine McGovern. Here's a fun bonus question. Who did the score for Poseidon adventure Towering and Burner in earthquake? Michael, you know, is dead. Why? He's not the answer. Oh, I'm surprised. John Williams. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, they said Sean Williams. I didn't know that. But I was like, I was going to guess John Williams, but I think Michael, you know, his dad was a funnier answer. Yep. We laughed. Yeah. I saw you guys. It's the next one. There's more. There's three more. Okay. Set me in motion by Bruce Hornsby. Abe. Abe. Here in the Henderson's. Not even close. Yeah. Jay. I'm just going from context clues of unstoppable. Incorrect. Okay. Let me give you a hint before you get some other wildly incorrect answer. Chain reaction. Okay. Well, the easy hint to get is their disaster movies. That's the one to keep. That's not a disaster movie. Okay. I'll give you an elemental hint. Fight. Fight. Fire. Jay. Volcano. Incorrect. Abe. Abe. Raina. Fire. Dragon's destroying shit. Back draft is the answer that question. Oh, okay. Yeah. But, you know, only buildings get destroyed and Glenn and Glenn with his face becomes a bad guy. Scott. Glenn. Yes. Thank you. I was just like Glenn Powell. All right. Here's the next one. Time for miracles by Adam Lambert. Ooh. Recent. Yeah. Adam Lambert. Time for miracles. A disaster movie. This is a 2010s film. What disaster movie would have Adam Lambert, American idols Adam Lambert. I also wondered this when I looked up this movie to see if it had a song and I'm like sure enough, it did. 2010s movie. I can think of a 2009 film, so it's not that I crossed that one out. Wait, sorry. It's a 2000s film. Okay. Yay. Hey. Is it 2012? It is 2012. Okay. My mind went to the fact that it's 2012. Oh, I see what you did. I immediately realized this. Like, that's right. The movie didn't come out in 2012. Yeah. The mistake gave me the answer. Here we go. Here's the last one. Okay. Flood by jars of clay. Wow. Jars of flavor that been in like 30 years since their song flood. Um, Jay. Jay. The day off to tomorrow. Incorrect. I'll give you a hint. Flood. Yeah. That's a flood. Abe. Brie Willy. I always think they're going to give you a good answer. You're telling me that there's that water? That's a great answer. That's a great answer. Yeah. And I also believe you covered this on deep Lucy in the podcast. The answer is hard rain. You don't care hard. Well, put beyond the list. It is on the list. Mark and I both love it. But we just haven't got that yet. But you don't love it enough, really. You can fit a lot of films could identify the left, the left, the closing credit song of hard rates. True. Which is popular Christian rock band jars of clay's flood. Anyway, I'll listen out for all this. Now for when we eventually cover it technically. Oh, that was based on the song. You can't miss it because like I think it's the one song in the movie. But I can't wait for dear the chorus. It's bloody. That's bad. But the chorus is catchy. That's why I was a hit song. Yeah. That's a good point. Abe technically you came in third place behind me, but you got second place this week. Jay, you are a winner. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. One disaster songs. You're your prize will be a cameo from Cobra Starship. I'll put that in the log right now to get that to you. That's really nice. With that. Like the whole bit. That was like a thing you could buy. I was expecting to just show up in my life one day. They just set it up on your launch. Like I guess we're gonna play a library with just this song. Yeah. Well, congratulations Jay. That was great. Enjoyed the game. Thanks for the game. And you thought you would lose. I did. I think it was Armageddon. I didn't even do Titanic. Do you know who you're playing against? You're playing against me. You're not gonna lose. But I'm not a music guy. I meant to ask the movie guy. So that looks like us. Hi, babe. There you go. All right. Let's move on now. Let's get to the amount of feedback. Feedback, feedback, feedback. This is where we go over the various questions answered on our Facebook page. Facebook.com has had a podcast. We asked a number of questions. The listeners and they gave us some answers. Let's do this thing. First question here is what's your favorite depiction of harsh weather in film? Chris Cluven has big waves in the perfect storm and big Wednesday and copie sponsor of rain in crawl and Philip heard right. Yes. The torrential downpour in Rashomon. That is pretty good. Good shout. Yeah. I guess like it's weird to call it weather. But what I recently saw days of days of heaven, the locust scene in that movie is incredible. Yeah. They filmed that in reverse. Yeah. They reverse it and they used like what they used like like grains of like grains of like wheat or something. Somehow it would show up on camera, right? It's like just thinking about like the, you know, the technical stuff to do in a movie like that to make it work. It's like, it's really, it's really great. Yeah. There's a storm in deep blue sea. I feel like I have to mention that it's not very well done. It's like, if you look at the poor effects, that's an area that the film is not up, but I've got to say deep blue sea and, you know, there's a lot of sun and connet. Cancer's weather. Yeah. There's a lot of sun. There's a sandstorm. There's a sandstorm in connet. Yeah. That's weather. I mean, Nick Cage is like getting that sun on his face when he gets up that bus. There is the net breeze in his hands. Beautiful. I'm going to throw in point break, Catherine Bigel is point break because, you know, it's not a crazy harsh, but, you know, there's some both sides, man. What's it going to do? Like fucking paddle to New Zealand. He's going to die in that wave. I mean, it's a pretty harsh storm. It's causing giant waves. It comes around like once every like 20 years. Yeah. Someone said that's the biggest storm. Yeah. It's very large. I love the rain in a bug's life. I don't know why I'm thinking of that, but it looks like it's a great light rain scene. Fuck hopper. Yeah. The rain you think you're thinking. Oh, the rain and ants is pretty deadly also. Yeah. And there's a good storm in the storm dealing with like kid ants in that movie too. Hey, I'm going to add that to his. We got to add that to his the minutes total. Hey, I'm going to be again. Hey, you work out. I was like, there's a part of the movie where he's talking to Woody. He's like, what are you bitchered about? And it was like, oh, he said bitchered a cartoon movie. That's funny. All right. Next question. What are some great films focused on science nerds? Time to leave it out for the show. Right. It's real genius. Chris Leland has weird science. Irene Johnson has the first Jurassic Park was all science nerds and dinos. And Philip Bird has happy, happy death day to you. Aaron David, the more science infused. How many I shrunk the kids? Yes. I mean, yeah, I mean, I blew up the kid. That's all. I mean, like that. Was it the kids fault? I think it was the kids fault for getting in front of the rave for that. And then that third one. It's apparent responsibility not to have their shrink/giganto rays be in the proportion of children. That's that. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. You know, Rick Moran, since it's hard. And he's just like, you guys are right. Yeah, it was a bad parent. And you know what? I'm going to be a great parent now and leave Hollywood. I want to say science nerds. I mean, you just mentioned it. Flint Lockwood. It was a great science guy. I thought he was fighting for chance of people. Flint Lockwood. Yeah, Jay on shoes. He still wears them. It's crazy. Yeah, it's a good choice. Yeah. That should be the part of the change. That should be the part of the third one. He gets the shoes off. He finally gets them off. It's like still like, like just kid size feet. What of the disaster film would you want to sequel to? Yeah, C. Jack Burns writes the towering inferno with the dollar sign. Maxwell Hadad writes Dante speak to Dante's inferno. Seven layers of hell in that one. Mark Hoeben writes Armageddon to still getting the day after the day after tomorrow. That's gonna be read that all in one when it's two different answers. Oh, and the day after the day after tomorrow. Well, you know, I'm again to she's still getting and the day after the day after tomorrow as a full title is still pretty good. But Mark has two answers. Chris Lian has zombie verse two. Phil Purd writes cloud of the chance of meatballs. Brandon Peters from the show writes a Star Wars call the rise of Skywalker. I also add that they're all friends of the show. I love daylight from 96. We still own a movie. Further adventures of Kittletura. I want to see what he does next. It's a good name. It's for sure. It's a great name. It's the best movie named Kittletura. Kittletura. Disgraced paramedic. Kittletura. A paramedic. Would you be the kid that was nightlife, maybe? Nightlife? Anybody got a flu? What? Sorry. Nightlights. Let's see. C equals to disaster. I love the call. I love the call. I love the call, but like it stops spinning again. I mean, that that sounds ridiculous. It's spinning the wrong way. They did it too good of a job. It's spinning to slow it down with some breaks on the call. Disaster films you want to see a sequel to. Long legs, because, you know, it was a disaster by the end of the movie. He was like, everything was going wrong. Aaron's like, what the fuck are you dying of it? Mark isn't here, but I did say that he would like a sequel to Moonful. I mean, I want to see Moonful. It sets up a sequel to Moonful. I want to see that sequel. Yeah. I can hear Mark out there screaming Moonful too. The LL is now Moonful too. I mean, it's freefalling. We got to see what happens. Next question we have here is to name some great cinematic trucks. Oh, Mark Hoff, my friend of the show writes the Chundra in Terminator 3. Okay. Michael E writes, friend of the show writes the war rig from Mad Maxfield Road and Kenworth from Smokey and the Bandit. Chris Cleveland has the F-100 and the Expendables. And Fillerbird has Mater from Congress. I mean, I was thinking of, I think it's one of his John Mack Ratzenberger, the Mack truck from from cars. If we're going with trucks from cars. Now, does he let somebody go and set his butthole? Sure does. There's a hatch. That's where lightning lifts. He's transported inside of, don't think about cars. In the third one, one of the background cars is like, my grandfather taught me all about you, and I just wanted to dig into how do these cars have lineage? How does that happen? And I stopped thinking about it. Well, when a mother of a car and a father car love each other very much, the factory builds a view. I've seen Southland Tails. I know how it happens. Cinematic Trucks. You remember in Terminator 2 when they still that guy's truck and they're like, this is the Beagle Stop Speed? That's a great cinematic trick. It's like a pet washing truck or something. Yeah, exactly. It's like, yeah. Obviously, the pork chop express from Big Globe, Trig Preble, Little China, one of Jay's favorite movies to seek the story. He can't stop talking about it. There's a ghoul on there at the end, there's a stinger. The pork chop express, the name of Jay's first child, whenever they emerge. Just pork chop. It's just a bad. It's just, you know, it's an incredible movie that I know Jay loves dearly. It sucks. It sucks about. It's a real classic from John Carpenter. Yeah. Well, the next is here. What are your favorite slobs versus snobs type movies? Chris Thune has National Lampoon's Animal House. Philip Heard has The Life Aquatic with Steve Zazoo, John Rivera, it's the odd couple slobs versus snobs type film. Well, there was one film or a movie named, but I mean, Caddy Shack is the quintessential slobs for slobs movie. I think of one. Well, looking around my room for inspiration, all I have is Pixar and Dinosaurs, which isn't good. I mean, the last world has like a scrappy table, Julia Moore versus Pete Pausole thief. That works. I'll take, I'll take that one. Yeah. That's my pick. The last one doesn't. It's like the best dressings I've felt. How many, they're making a new one to you, right? Yeah, sure. There will be seven. Wow. In a franchise that is averaging a B at best. I love all of them. Even the ones I hate. I still love them. That's it. That's a nice phrase. I love all of them. Even the ones I hate. Gotta make that in a poster. Slobber slobs there. Yeah. Anything they got? I said Caddy Shack. No, you said Caddy Shack. Oh, okay. Did you have one? Um, you know, probably just like Toy Story. I don't know. Yeah. There's Sid's room versus the fancy toys. I mean, yeah. Sid, Sid seems like what he's, what he's an old toy versus a shiny new Buzz Lightyear. Inspired by Andy's favorite movie. Obviously, we all knew that. Yeah. Lightyear. Are we, are we reading still the snobs as just an old couple dynamic? No, I mean, what, any kind of disparity? What, what, he's got an old charm to him and he's, you know, he's kind of a dick. Now, is he the snob or is he the slob? Oh, yes. He's the snob in the scenario. Okay. Buzz Lightyear's slobby because he has to let go of his star-command ways in order to adapt to the new people he's living amongst. And you know, become more slobby. I disagree with the stuff. He gets Dracon drawn his face. He gets all, he goes to the tea party. He gets all it gets way off course. Don't you know his name is Mrs. Nesby. He loses an arm? Jay? What? That's not how he starts. He, that's how he, he starts. Well, sure. I think he's the snob and what he's the slob. That's why it's a good movie, Jay. It does both sides. Wow. Yeah. It takes the slobs. It takes the classic slobs versus the snob scenario and flips it in reverse. I'm so glad that my fake answer has, has given us such a great discussion. Whoa. Who knows? Yeah. Who are some great movie daredevils? The bird writes the rocketeer. Chris Cleveland has the ultimate daredevil Alex Heideld from Free Solo. And you know, like, yeah, Duke of it. Duke of it, Jay. Another slob versus snob scenario. That's a whole slob as you group over there. I'm making this whole, this is the Toy Story podcast. This is great now. Oh, we should do a Toy Story podcast. I have an analog analysis of every character every week. The Rex episode. We're going to, we're going to Super Bowl this. It's going to lead up to, like, yeah, Woody versus Buzz. Yeah. Great movie daredevils. Bodey, Bodey from a point break from point break. Yeah. And you talk about that better. He jumps out of an airplane. Yeah. I should like call that line. He says we're just like, you're getting cold because you're dying, man. You didn't say that exactly, but he does tell the guy he's dying to his face and then he jumps out of the window or at the airplane. But yeah, hot rod may go. Yeah. And Bart Simpson, when he's trying to jump over Springfield Gorge. Well, I mean, he doesn't even go through with it. He does it because he decides that his dad is right and then Homer does it and he doesn't make it. I argue. Bart's not a dare. No, who is a daredevil? The father who had a cannonball lodged do his stomach multiple times. That's a daredevil. Give me a home. He made it. He made it over. Simpson's a daredevil. And I picked his family. Yeah. Bart just went like Bart's skateboarded naked once, whatever. With his penis out. Oh, in the, in the Simpsons movie. That is what naked is. Yes. Yeah. What, what is the daredevil's name in the Simpsons? Like, do you remember his name? Jesus. What are you looking at over there? Let me look at my like Luke something. Let me look at the poster next to me. Oh, wow. I want to say it's something like that. Yeah. Yeah, you're right, Jay. Between the two of us. Yeah, but I knew it was like, and he knew it was not daredevil. Yeah, between us, we got Lance work. We did it. All right. All right. Great. We've established the theme of the thesis of this episode. Could we lay out the biggest movie daredevil's that we got there in the final minutes of this show? Perfect. That's enough feedback. Be back. And that's got to do over this week's episode of out now with Aaron Abe. You can find everything I do at my personal subside page, the code is eked@substack.com. I am the editor chief at we live entertainment from movie reviews. I am on wise blue for criteria, blue reviews, and I'm on all the socials at Aaron's PS4. And of course, I am the co host of the summer of 2004 at 20 with Brandon Peterson, Scott Mendelssohn, friends of this show. We're talking about the summer movie lineup from the year 2004. This week, we have the Born Supremacy is the main topic of the week. So stay tuned for all that if you want to check out our our other friendly podcast. Abe, you can have more friends that have remains kind of aimed at more and Twitter.com/wall or smooth hashtag. If you feel it, chase it. Jay Klue, we're going to provide more of you online. Deep blue. See the podcast is my podcast where we've covered the a friend of the show Mark off Meyer and I have covered the entire TPC trilogy seen by scene. A bunch of DPC adjacent films, Aaron's doing this for a few of those. He was recently on for USS Indianapolis men of car rich. We actually discussed on that whether I should watch more submarine films and you said, I should watch Crimson Tide. If I didn't enjoy Crimson Tide, I shouldn't watch any more submarine films. So we're not going to cover any more submarine films. Sure. Crimson Tide. We've recorded an episode on Crimson Tide. I was bored. I fell asleep. It was middle of the road film. Even the horses in Portugal? Especially the horses in Portugal, especially the horse in the bush. But there's not coming episode on Crimson Tide, which I wasn't a massive fan of, but listen to that. But I've rated it the same letterbox as I did Sharknado, also coming up soon on the TPC the podcast. And as of next week, Mark and I have decided, let's just go through it deeply, see all over again. So we're doing that starting next week, chat with chapter every three weeks. Abe, do you want to come on and guess for a chapter? You've not been on yet. Of course. There we go. We'll have you on for a chapter. Chapter 13. I'll put you down for it. I don't know. I hope it's one where Elle Kujik crawls into the oven. I was going to say that as well. I hope it's that chapter. I'll find out. But yeah, I can't see the TPC pod as well. You can find me. All over social media. It's Crimson Tide. I was just marking Jay down to make sure he's delayed a few weeks next year for when he comes back to this podcast. But yeah, other one. Season 13 at, so a chapter 13 of TPC is when the window breaks, when Jim is starting at the window and it breaks. So is that one? Oh, God. Hang on. I think that's a round when the episode I did with you guys initially did this show. You were definitely in that. Yes, that was the chapter you were on. That was just a random poll. One of the 33 Jones. All right. Well, you can find all the other episodes about now 30 day about iTunes, audio group Spotify, and Stitcher. Soundcloud pod, making HWD. Feel free to email us at not podcast@gmail.com. Check out our Facebook page, socialcom, socialcom.com or Twitter, Twitter.com. And our Instagram.com.com. So underscore out now underscore podcast as well. Jay, thank you very much for joining us today. Thank you, Jay. Thank you for having me. Thank you all for having me. I've had a wonderful time. Hey, wow. I mean, now I'm confused if he's American or if he's British. You'll never know. That was that was really good. Now, Jay, can you give me more of like a serial killer American accent? They're all the same to me. No, I can just do something because I'm English. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all. I think that all Americans are talking about it. Unless you're Dr. Strange. If you're Dr. Strange, you're from New York and all the Yorkers sound very specific, apparently, according to house or Dr. Strange. I mean, that is a very serial killer voice. I think as well. Dr. House, that's right. Both of them, New Yorkers, and you can tell from their accent choices. Yeah, sure. That's going to do it for this week's episode. Next week, we're talking Deadpool and Wolverine. Wow. We're here. You get to it. You got them both. You get them both for the price of one. Wow. But that's going to do it for this for now. So, thanks for listening. Thank you again, Jay, for joining us. And that's going to do it here. So, until next time, so long. And goodbye. I can't say that same old devil down the same old dead and how. I can't say that same old devil down the same old dead and how. Oh, my train. You'll know when it's coming from you. We did get a little bit of the mostly sport for you, the boy via mostly sport for you, the cable commentary tracker from one other movie topic. Talk off. Just really just. Yeah, tongues in a twist today. Yeah. I saw the trailer twisters and give country music plays or guitar riff. Oh, oh, some wind noises. Yeah, you can't hear it, but yeah, I guess my mic doesn't pick it up. And then all of a sudden, uh, oh, and then, uh, oh, uh, who's that? Or, or, Basie country music now? Who's that over there? That's Tyler Rowan. They call him the tornado Wrangler. If you feel it, trace it. That's the crowd. And then, uh, oh, uh, we never had a chance. Do you want one? And then a cool cowboy hat walking the rain and then, uh, Adam more tornado. And then what's the guy from, um, uh, I'm three rainbows. No, no, no, no. Nope. Yeah. The other guy from Nope. We got twins. Yeah. You got to have that part. And then a twister. No, it says twister. And then the S comes alive with the flickering. Becomes a dollar sign. Exactly. Lee has a chunk. She's like catching. Pretty solid. I don't think that's actually how it goes, but, you know, not. You're mixing. You're mixing the first and second trailers together, which I like. I didn't know that. I have never seen the second trailer. (laughing)