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Out Now 583: A Quiet Place: Day One

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03 Jul 2024
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This week on our Now With Internet, we are talking a quiet place, colon, day one. Hot dogs, get your hot dogs here, you want hot dogs, what is th- oh my god! What? [Grunting] And I'm feeling good We are now recording, this is out now with Aaron and Abe. I am Aaron and as always, this is Hey! Hello! How are you Aaron? I'm doing well, it's a warm day but it's been a productive one, how are you doing? I'm doing well, thank you for asking. I was away last weekend for an assignment at a wedding. I heard that you guys held down the fort and I heard that it was a great interview with Alonzo. So, yeah, great job. Well, well thanks, so it was a good time last week for sure. Out now is a film podcast where Abe and I discuss new movies weekly, we dig into film the most important for you with the occasional commentary track or some other film on your topic. This is episode 583. 583. Congratulations to all the 583 years. Washington. Oh! There you go. And what are we talking? This week for 5 episode 583, we're talking a quiet place, colon, day one. The third entry, but first prequel, it'd be quiet place series. There you go. And joining us to discuss a quiet place, one day one, we have from the Mendez movie report giving notes at all, the marionette themed bass puppets in New York City, it's Lewis Mendez. And thanks for having me back. I can't believe we're already halfway through the year. Right? Isn't it crazy? Yeah. I'm glad to have you here. Because you were last here with us for if, of course, and now you're here for a quiet place, which means that every John Krasinski related project, you're going to be on the show with us. Now, that's just what we're going to do here. That's just how it's going to go. Yeah. I was thinking about that coincidence there. You're an hour Krasinski man. Yeah, I get it. This happens whenever it's time. That's a stay tuned for whatever else he has in store. I am. I am. Jim from the office expert, I can see you looking right in the camera right now with the funny face. I'm making a shrug. Yeah. Exactly. Doing pranks. Exactly. I like it. So what do we got here? Let's go to some show notes. First up, if you just mentioned it last week, yes, we did have a lot of durability on to talk about the bike rides office. But he also talked about his new book, Hollywood Pride, which was a lot of fun to talk about. Yeah. I certainly recommend you checking out that show. Let alone checking it out as long as there's book, Hollywood Pride, so that was everywhere. As far as other shows go, new commentary track, it's July, which means that'll be a new month. And as I've mentioned, we are on our global tour with commentaries this summer. We just had a run a little run commentary for June. And now for July, we're going to talk about Chum King Express, one car Y, a mua favorite. I guess. Yeah. I mean, I have seen that movie quite a number of times. It's a it's a really nice little whimsical movie. Yeah. So although it got some serious things at the end there, for sure, but we will be talking about it in full and looking forward to that one for sure. All right, let's let's now let's get let's get as what's his name and blue line as a yeah. What's the princess name? Eric? No, that's in a little mermaid. I know what you're talking about, but I don't know his name, Lee Shang. Yes. Thank you. Like, as Lee Shang would say, let's get down to business. Oh, okay. All right. The 12th. Well, a beautiful set of her joke. And seamless. Yeah. All in in the edit, the 12th annual summer movie gamble is happening. Abe and I love many other guests. The show have predicted what we think are going to be the top 10 highest person films of the summer. And boy, has June been a boon for big releases and big numbers. And this weekend was no different going rank order inside out to dropped only 43% made another $57 million. It's at 469 domestic so far. It crossed a billion worldwide, be hard to catch up to. It's going to be hard to catch up to. So three of us predicted that to be number one and three of us are feeling pretty good about that. Right about now. Mark is one of them. Mark is of course one of them. The rating champion Marcus. Okay. Oh, yeah. Those doubted him. He's he's high in the competition very much still. That said, new release this week of Quiet Place day, what we'll talk about soon enough, 53 billion. A notably higher opening than the prior two Quiet Place films and just a solid opening in general. So great horizon and American saga chapter one, which was picked in many people's dark horse spots or even a number 10 or a few in a few spots, 11 million not the not the not the strongest opening not for horizon, but more on that later, more on that later, bad boys, right or die made another 10 million. It's at 165. It's domestic or total domestic, total is total. It's like got to cross over 400 soon. It's at 330. It'll cross over 400 eventually should it release the bad girl movie. And yeah, at the pace, it's going. It's going to eventually outdo kingdom of the plan of the apes, which is at 168 domestic so far. So it's terrible. It's going to it's going to climb over the apes. Let's see Garfield's in 89 if he is speaking of if he if is at 109. Yeah, that's pretty much it as far as the fall guys at 90 the fog is still making money, but like money. Hey, you know what? You know what? You know, it's crazy. You know, if you leave movies and theaters people will go see it. Yeah, you can still see it, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, the word of mouth, go see movies and theaters help us out. Us as if like I'm the MGM head. Exactly. Yeah. But yeah, so what some some good stats there as far as well for what they get as far as the doom and gloom. Some were saying during May June is certainly been like, you know what, guys, we have a lot of movies actually and the kind of thing. All right. That's enough talk of the summer gamble for the time being. Let's move on now. Let's get to it. Let's go. It's about okay. Okay. But each way, not now. By the way, they're really good at that release. Yeah. That was good. I was happy with that. Abe, you weren't here last week. Did you manage to see the bike riders? You know what? I didn't yet. And that is on me. So I've been pretty busy with working. I've also had that wedding. So I haven't been able to get that one in. I've read that it's going to be on VOD very shortly, which I don't like because I'm trying to see it in theaters. So I'll report back to you in a week. You see anything else? No, I didn't. Sad. It's a sad set of affairs here at the Mulhouse hold fair, fair enough to watch a giant's game. Maybe you're something early. No, basketball is over. I'm just limiting all the sad things. I believe I said giants. I know what you said. We're stuck right now, too, but don't make it sound like I wasn't talking about Facebook. I wouldn't fool Colonel Jess up on you. I know what you say. You don't have to read it back to me like I'm a child. I haven't been watching baseball. I am really just sad about basketball in the state of the Warriors right now because we are going to free agency and it's all falling apart, buddy. It's all falling apart for us. So if you are a Warriors fan, limit with me, and if you are not a Warriors fan, I'm sure I can hear you cheering through the microphone and also the headphones are right now. Luis, are you a sports guy? Yes. I watch all four of the major sports leads. Who are you supporting right now? We go play. We just had basketball. We're now in baseball. What do you got going? Baseball? Baseball. Baseball in the race fan, which we do exist. I know we get a lot of crap. We do exist, I mean, but yeah, we have a lot of issues down here, whether it's a stadium situation, sometimes not having the greatest attendance and such, but yeah, I mean, but the race haven't been having the hottest season. I mean, so, you know, they've been basically kind of hovering around 500, little under 500. I can't see how they hear from my dad who every year he's convinced they're going to win the World Series and every year I'm like, do you know how hard that is? But yeah, I mean, the sport highlight for me this past week, if anything was watching, I mean, I'm not a Panthers fan, I'm a lightning fan, but it was kind of cool to see another floor at the team keep Canada's losing streak going. You scare there for a little bit, came back from '03 to make it a seven game series. Pretty incredible. But yeah, only the third time in Stanley Cup that they that's happened, but yeah, they pulled it out. So Canada still has been going three decades or so without a team of theirs, winning the Stanley Cup. Pretty. Damn straight. Yeah. Sad. No, little bit gold, I'm sure. So basketball wise, where do you heat or magic? No, I'm he. Okay. Yeah. I'm the heat fan. Thank you for almost taking out the Celtics, you know, maybe in this past, well, I mean, we did that a couple of times before, but exactly, eventually the Celtics were going to get past us. Yeah. Well, that's been our episode of basketball bebop. Well, let's bounce bounce. Thank you, the classic catcher is back to quickies here, please let me see it recently. Um, well, I've been just trying to do some catch up with some films. I have had a catch up with this year, took a break from some of the classics stuff I was. Yeah. I remember you were doing the classic kind of thing last last time, right? You were in the, you were in the thirties? I think. Well, I was talking to you. Yeah. Well, now, now I'm in the, now I'm in the forties. Yeah. But I took a break just to make sure to catch up with some of the stuff. From this year, I mean, nothing too major, just a lot of it, like the smaller stuff that kind of came and went. But to me, the big highlight other than obviously a quiet place was that I did catch, um, horizon on American saga chapter one, um, and it was interesting because watching it, it was one point. I remember I think it was about 30 minutes into the movie or such and I'm like, why does it feel? And I'm, and I'm not saying this in the rockatory way either, but it's like, why, why does it feel like I'm watching, I'm binging Netflix on the big screen? Interesting. I've heard this complaint too. It basically feels like you're, it's kind of like how everybody's been asking, well, if you're doing these supposedly for three hour epics, why not just making to like some big mini series on Netflix and, um, like watching it and the way that the story is structured, and such, it does kind of feel like you're just watching the first set up episodes of a grander's story. But because the way that the story is structured and the way that it ends was, which is kind of suddenly in a way, it, and you're still haven't gotten to see horizon this town that supposedly is going to be what this movie is all about, it feels very incomplete. And like you just, it really just feels like you just watched the first couple episodes of a, of a show. And I think because of that, it's, it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea. I think there's going to be some who feel like the movies kind of like has some, it's so incomplete that they don't really know what to think of it. I for one really liked what it was setting up, but I did it like, like when I wrote my review, I didn't even give it a grade because I'm like, I don't know how to grade this because I just need to see what on earth the finished product looks like. Mm hmm. Sure. So I also saw a horizon and I know when part two comes out, we're going to have like a longer discussion about this film so we can kind of get a better sense of how to like evaluate it. I'm not going to, I mean, everyone can review it the way they would review it. I, I feel like, I mean, it is a movie that came out in the theaters that is what, this is what Kevin Koster designed to be in playing in theaters. And I don't think that makes it above criticism. I'm not saying you're saying that, but in terms of if he wants, if he's putting this movie out and it's going to get a standard release and critics are going to see it and review it, I'm not opposed to like assigning a letter grade to it. That's not the be all end all of how I feel that horizon. The thousand words I write is the be all end all over Allison. But in terms of like just simply giving it like my two cents as far as what I feel he's accomplished within just this piece of cinema that he's created for the first part. I mean, I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying. I do think it, it, it, I'm not against like a part one that clearly has more to go. Last year, specifically, we had multiple part ones. We had fast, we had fast decks. We had across the spider verse. We had mission impossible. We had, we had doing a couple of years ago, but now yeah, but I think there are ways for movies to accomplish what they're doing within their first rebel moon. Of course, also. I forget. Right. Yes. Yeah. We talked about that. I can't, I also can't believe we forgot. But I mean, I do think there is, there's strong ways to make a first chapter, first part would have you with a feature that not even necessarily has a big getting in the middle and end, but just like feels like it's accomplished what it needed to within its first chapter, within its first part for what have you horizon my issue with it. A movie that I overall liked and I look forward to seeing the next part of it is that it does feel incomplete. It doesn't feel like it flows in a natural sort of way. Will it make it better when I see part two? And if you watch it together, will it all flow more seamlessly, perhaps, but I can't tell you that right now. What I can tell you is about the movie that I saw and the movie that Kevin Costner specifically released in the theaters right now. And as it stands, yes, I do similarly agree that it feels because of the way it's structured, it's structured like there's multiple storylines all running separately from each other, not on like a, like, like a crash or traffic or any number of storylines where you have multiple characters rock, like, thematically connected things going on, but not necessarily connecting them specifically. And by doing that and having it be just the first of more parts, yeah, that's not going to necessarily connect the way I would, not necessarily the way I'd hope it to, but like it just in terms of, I don't think this is the perfect movie by any means. I don't think it's a great movie. I think it's a good start, one that I'm looking forward to seeing more of, but yeah, it does feel like it runs into the problem of like, okay, I, I, there's a, I can't tell Kevin Costner how to make his movie, but I feel like there's a stronger way this could have been done to make me feel less, less feel less problems with the way it's trying to balance all these things. I have numerous, I feel like when we talk about the more I could get into it more, but I have numerous issues. Yeah. And I, I was just going to say that I, I think like the one potential problem for the film is that you're, you're, I'm personally a fan, big fan whenever anyone can pull off something with a big scope, big ensemble, different stories going on, but it's like, usually when that happens, they're able to, they're able to more seamlessly go back and forth between the stories. With this one, it takes its time to a certain point where you'll be watching the movie, like, I mean, very small spoiler alert, but Kevin Costner doesn't show up to like one hour into the movie. Yeah. And you'll be sitting there watching the movie and then after, okay, so you wait for Costner and his, his character's storyline to begin an hour in, and then a net, an hour after that, all of a sudden you're introducing new characters again, Luke Wilson's character and his storyline. And it's kind of like, it's a little jarring at this because it's like, you're, you're kind of getting into this plot that you're watching and then all of a sudden we have to pause everything to introduce these new characters doing this, this totally different thing elsewhere. And I think it could get a little confusing for, for some folks watching it. I, I said this in my review that it's almost like the, the movie knows it's a part one of four and it knows that all those parts are apparently going to be these big three hour epics and it takes its time. And I think sometimes it helps the movie to do that because it helps to kind of build certain things and introduce to us certain story beats and such. But it also at times might be to the detriment of the movie because there were moments watching the film, particularly during the first hour for me where I did feel it could have been edited down a bit. I agree. The first hour feels the clunky estimate. Yeah. So I'm very fascinated by this entire undertaking from Kevin Costner because I, I still believe that he is probably one of those folks that it's fascinating to see Kevin Costner put in his own money for a large western epic, which he's made many of in the past, whether that be like canceled wolves or white earth or the postman or open range and all this other stuff that he's done, which I find very cool. But I am kind of sort of like semi confused by this because what was the show that he made on Paramount? Was it like Yellowstone or? Yes. Yeah. Yellowstone. It's one of the star of Yellowstone. Yeah. So Louise, like when you're saying something like it feels like it's kind of a, it could be like a mini series or like something that is like on premium VOD kind of thing, but in multiple parts. I'm somewhat sort of taken aback by that because I'm, I'm hearing that it is not a whole lot in part one and, and that kind of worries me on a lot of degrees because we're going to get multiple parts of this movie. And I feel strongly that if you are not going to do something that entices us sort of what Aaron was saying with maybe some of the other part ones that we've seen in recent history, that can cause some concern because Kevin Costner, I admire what he's doing, like spending his own money kind of making a movie that he wants to make for a cinema for the big screen. And being an advocate for the movies is very, there's just a lot of pride in that. But also when you're making something that is very maybe somewhat niche, I, I also worry about his return on investment. And maybe he doesn't care about that, you know, maybe it's a make a lot of this up situation where, you know, uh, cop Okay, like I don't care, like the last check I read is going to bounce kind of thing. And that's pretty, that's pretty, uh, punk, punk rock, to be honest, but at the same time, I, I am just curious, like Kevin Costner's, like his pathway to where he is now as an American movie star, as somebody who has come up through the 80s and 90s and is a known quantity for people that are in their 40, 50s, 60s and beyond, um, just how this actually hits with maybe today's audiences, because I don't know if there's a miscalculation from the, from, from the studios or the distributor, just be like, yes, I believe Kevin Costner can pull this off or was it a miscalculation? It's like, there's the landscape has changed in which how we consume media, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, you're throwing it a lot there. Yes. Yeah. And this is not a discussion for now. I do want to have this discussion probably later, because like what Aaron said, parks, he's coming out in like a few weeks. It's like six weeks when in August. Yeah. And so it's, it's going to be a very fascinating discussion to have that, but I wanted to like, implant that into people's minds as we were going along here. Cause I, I, I, I can just suppose this gets a lot of, you know, aging movie stars too, right now. And I find that to be very cool. And, um, that the, just, just, just to throw out some like quick thoughts on some of the things that you're saying. I mean, yeah, I mean, suffice to say it is a passion project of his that he's spent a lot of his own money on. It's not a matter of miscalculation. I mean, pundits can tell you what they expected to make and they were mostly right as far as how well who's going to do. But in terms of Kevin Costner has a passion of that he wants to put on the screen and he's going to use his old money to do it. I mean, you can't get anywhere without taking any risks. I mean, there is a possibility that the star of Yellowstone, one of the most popular shows literally in the world, uh, making a Western epic could have taken off with a very specific demographic. Now you're entirely not wrong also that younger people make up the majority of people that go to the movies these days. And if you're saying I could watch Kevin Costner, a person I see on TV all the time in a movie, well, I'll just watch him on TV instead. I mean, that's pretty much what happened this weekend. Um, maybe it catches on. Maybe the word about grade and part two becomes a bigger hit because of the esteem that part one chapter one builds. We don't know yet. But in terms of like making a feature film and not just saying, I want to spend my money, my own money on a Netflix series or a pair about tears or whatever. I mean, for what? That's his choice. But also he's a movie guy. He's a guy. He's admirable. I mean, I can't say he's necessarily a giant, uh, draw today in the same way that he was more than nineties. But in terms of making a thing for the screen, look, Horizon's always going to be on TV after these movies come out. Correct. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's never going to be in movie theaters again after this. Right. Well, if it's his prerogative to be like, you know what, I want to try this meat experiments where I spend my own money on a giant epic that I have in my head more power to them. I wish this first chapter was a, a, a better three hour experience, but I still like it. And I look forward to the next one. So that's all I got now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, even if this is in your cup of tea, like, it is kind of wild that we're seeing someone actually get to pull this off, especially in today's environment in the industry. So it is fascinating to me that he's getting the dues. Give us this. This basically is anthology of, of epic Westerns. And just to be clear, you're well aware that Kevin Costamie don't really get a log. I know. Yeah. I think, I think it really turned when he said to his son, Superman, don't save me from this tornado. It's okay. Even though nobody can see you faster than a speeding bullet. What I, what I like is that's when Aaron was like, I'm out of Kevin Costamie. Well, I mean, that's entirely wrong because I've hated cost for a long time. It's more, it's more when he became an older, and I don't hate him, but just not mind anything. It's more when he became an older actor. I appreciated more of what he was offering than when he was younger days. I hear it. And here, I think he is good at what he's doing. I mean, I mean, his direction, I think has always been fine. I mean, again, like, I think like my final takeaway before we get into other things and also like when until part two comes out, runs in part two. So I give them part two comes out is that I am admiring the last of the movie actors right now, and what they're trying to do. And this being Tom Cruise, basically, just being like, I will die on screen because I am a movie star. And I know that I'm one of the last movie stars. And I and Kevin Costamie is no, no different. Like he loves cinema. He, he's a guy that has passions. And clearly, this is one of his passion projects. So I'm just really fascinated where we are with the aging movie star from the 80s and 90s to now. And how they feel as though they either, not that they, they feel as though they still have it kind of thing more, just like how they really want to leave a mark and say, like, this is what movie making is all about. It's not about like, you know, just a flash in the pan type thing, about having ideas about being an artist. And that is pretty fascinating to view as like, as like this, this thesis. I'll also throw in this as far as because we're talking about a lot of negative things on this movie. I thought you guys are positive on it. Well, yeah, but I saw, I saw this movie with my dad who liked it, but also put in like a Dolby, like, nice theater to say to him, because there's three hours and I'm like, we've had a good theater to watch this. It looks and sounds great. Like, it's a very well shot movie and it sounds fantastic. It's like John, John Demney's score and the, the, just like the gun firing and everything. Like this, it's a, it's a well sound designed movie. So yeah, right. It's a good cinematic experience. What about you? Yeah, I've heard good things. All right. All right. Let's see. Well, I have quick use as well. Oh, we're still here. Yeah, we're still here. I thought we're gonna close up the show by now. Some stuff. Speaking of nice things to see in theaters, I watched John Wu's bullet in the head last night. Okay. It's a 1990 film. I saw 35 millimeter prints of it. I had not seen bullet in the head among his older Hong Kong films. This would be rules. If you knew that, it's so good. Tony Long's the star among others. It's this just like this wild epic that's like, what it like. It's like deer hunter meets treasure of the Sierra Madre, which is crazy to say out loud, but like that's what it is. We're like, it's seven to 60s. These guys have to go on the run and they decide to like do crime in Saigon during the Vietnam War and like terrible things happen and their friendship gets tested. There's all kinds of gunplay. It fucking rules. It was great. I love it. No notes. Glad to hear. Yeah. I watched two of the other new releases this week, Daddy-O with Dakota Johnson and Sean Penn. Sean Penn's a cabbie, good Johnson and the cab, and they talk for like an hour and a half about things that are going on. The whole deal is like Sean Penn's an older generation. He's world weary to go to Johnson's like, clearly has some kind of issue and they talk about it. It's a good like showcase for like two actors acting with each other. Yeah. Set in like one location, which is literally a movie cab. I can't say that like they're, you know, the trials tribulations of their conversation like movie to some great place, but in terms of just watching two performers act with each other, I thought it was quite good in that regard. Okay, Glenn here. Yeah. I caught up to that one this week too. It was okay. I agree with you. It was more about just kind of seeing, you know, some interesting dial. Well, yeah, the interesting dialogue between them, but I can't say that it was, you know, anything that blew me out of the water either. There. I watch Janet Planet. It's the new Janet Planet. Janet Planet. Right name from a24. It's a stars Julian Mickelson and a little girl who plays for daughter, Lisa Zoe Ziegler. There is. This is brought, who's it from? Andy Baker, who's like a what like a Pulitzer prize winning playwright. This is their first first feature film. It's set during a summer where a mother and her daughter are just kind of with it at home. The mother has a couple boyfriends and a friend that kind of passed through throughout the summer. So you kind of get three distinct acts where mother and daughter kind of deal with the different situations going on. It's mostly a drama with a bit of comedy in there and it's a well-acted piece of work and some good support. It's Will Patton and Elias Codius are both in this film, which feels like some kind of character actor win by having both of them at the same time. And then so I feel like there was like a serial killer in the background of Loose for whatever reason with those two games. Sophie Akanodo also steps in to I think is also very very strong actress. And yeah, it's a solid A24 coming of age drama. I enjoyed it. A lot of A24 this weekend. A lot of A24, yeah. I've seen more than I can't even talk about yet. As far as A24 goes, let's see. Oh, here's one. Fancy dance. This is with Lily Gladstone. She stars as a native woman who has a, I think like a, it's like a younger cousin or something regardless. Basically, she needs to go on the, her sister's missing and she kind of sort of kidnaps her own relative to like go on this road trip to like find out if they could find the sister drama ensues. The reason I'm breaking this up is I like this movie. It's fine. By the very end of it. The second, the last scene I realized, Oh, this movie they discovered released an apple this weekend. I actually saw at Sundance two years ago. Wow. It took me the entire movie to be like, I've seen this movie before. You're like, good. I mean, Deja Vu, like literally the last scene I was like, Oh, I see I've seen this is that movie. And I don't think the movies change at all. I just completely because it's been, you know, two years. So it's a congrats. I finally get to get released for one thing. And it's, you know, solid. But yeah, that's a, that's just kind of a surprise. I saw that. I saw that one as well. And again, I agree with you. It was, it was good. But nothing amazing. But that is interesting that it took you until the very end there. But I remember that there was a lot of, I remember a lot of stories about like, people kept wondering what where is this movie? Where is this movie? Because it had been at Sundance and it's wild how long it took for them to even find a distributor. Yeah, I, it totally didn't came to me. I forgot. But yeah, it is weird though. Like, it took that long for me like that. That got like good reviews, I said, it's an everything, but you know, whatever. But hey, there's one more 824 movie I saw this week, Gabe. Oh, what's that? It's Tuesday. This is the film of Julia Louie Dreyfus. It's a drama. Yeah, a fantasy drama. I should say. Yes. Yeah. It's about a mother and her ill daughter. Correct. And there's a, the four, the death comes in the form of a talking macaw that can also change its size. It can go bigger or smaller. All of this feels like the kind of film that I would generally go for. But I just did. I did. I don't know. And it's, it's not for lack of trying. Like, I do think there's things about it that really work. I think Julia Louie Dreyfus who's playing somewhat against type because it's very much age drama. Like, she's very good at it. The macaw thing that happens is interesting. Like, it just like, I feel like if it was a couple degrees, a different direction, I might have appreciated more, but I just couldn't find myself connecting to it. Like, it's a barber. It was like a monster calls. Yes. Yeah. A monster calls the movie that like has a similar, it's kind of a reverse of that scenario, but it still has a similar like fantasy element amidst a, you know, heartbreaking drama. And that would work for me where this was like, eh, I just could really, really get in there. So yeah, performances or even the performance. The performances are good. It's all, I don't even know if it's like tone or just like the general atmosphere just wasn't like agreeing with me or you're just a 24 out. It could have been. I'll never be a 24. Wait until Neon comes through with Academy Award winners again. I mean, that's all they've been doing lately. I know. Three for three, I think. Or four, maybe. Speaking of not movies, I saw two Netflix films this week as well. Okay. That's not a family affair. You know what's what this is? What'd you, what'd you think of this one? I mean, it just came off like, you know, Netflix has a bunch of these where it's like just kind of these sort of, at least for me, I don't know if you liked it or not, but kind of, I didn't like it a lot. Like, they just have a lot of these sort of forgettable, you know, sort of romance comedies and you, and you watch them and it's like, I've already forgotten about the movie like half way in. This war, Zach Gaffron plays a big movie star, Joey King is his assistant, Nicole Kidman is his mom, and guess what? The movie star, the mom former relationship and it's awkward. Yeah. Period. End of thought. Oh, okay. I went for more. That's, that's, that's sounds like Netflix movies. So it feels like an ultimate bad libs like movie star, movie star, younger movie star. What's their premise add together mix? Put on some songs on the soundtrack. What was the other moment you saw? The other one I saw was trigger warning, which also feels like a bad libs because it's movies, you know, not quite in theaters, but movie star Jessica Alba. Revenge plot, modern, died action movie. Yeah. You know, it's, it's the model of old men action, except this time it's Jessica Alba in the action. It features a number of like side players, like including the night agent himself, Gabriel Basso. I, who's the, who's the bad guy? Anthony Michael, of course. Anthony Michael Hall. Anthony Michael Hall? Anthony Michael Hall? 16 Kansas is my Anthony Michael Hall? The dark nights, Anthony Michael Hall. That's right. That's the only way I refer to him. This is just a, yeah, a real junky action film. The, it comes down to, are the fight scenes cool? They, they, they look like people trained and they're not filmed terribly because we're at an age where at least we seem to try, but yeah, it's a pretty disposable entry in the candidate. I just like how somebody wrote on Twitter that the economy is so bad that Jessica Alba has to come out of retirement to do acting. So oh my God. So it's like, oh, I, I guess that, yeah, I guess it must be pretty bad. You know, she's got her own beauty line products too. So here's the watch. She's a billionaire. Yeah. So the economy is crazy. Then have you seen the price of a, of a whole chicken these days? Thank you. So yeah, that's what I've been watching. Great. All right. Let's, let's move on. Let's get to our, our trailer talk. We talk about what the news moocher is the week, when it's coming out would have you. And this week we're talking Nosferatu, the latest Roman from director and writer Robert Eggers, who is of course adapting the 1922 classic from F.W. Renau, Nosferatu, which is of course inspired by Bront Stoker's novel Dracula. There's a lot of things in between there as far as Dracula, Nosferatu go, but suffice to say, we have a new Nosferatu. Bill Scarsgard is playing him. Nicholas Holt is in this movie, Lily Rose Depp, Aaron Taylor, Johnson and Willem Dafoe, of course, Robert Eggers. And it's the story of Dracula. I mean, it's the story Dracula. I mean, that's the plot. I mean, we kind of know it. So I'm curious, Louis, are you excited for Robert Eggers take on Nosferatu? Well, it's, it's one of my most anticipated films of the year. To the question. Okay, I'm kidding. I mean, look, I am interested because, you know, I love Eggers, like the atmosphere and the aesthetics he has with these movies. For me personally, I know there are people who like really, really love Lighthouse and the witch. I like those movies, but I feel like his stuff really clicked with me with the Northmen. So I'm only even more excited to see what he does with Nosferatu. My question is, and I think he's going to be leaning more towards sort of trying to match the 1922 film more so than just trying to do his own sort of like spin on the actual Count Dracula book. But I really, I really like the way it looks. The 1922 film is one of my favorites from the silent era. So it is interesting to me. They did not show us what we do, essentially for little, you know, little hints here and there. We got to see the back of him. We didn't really get to see Bill Skarskar, you know, in the as the creature, as the vampire. So I found that very interesting because in these days, they tried to, you know, so this is a reveal too much in these trailers. So I didn't like that they seem to be still keeping that secretive for us. I agree. I like the approach we're taking here. We got a lot of months before this comes out. So the slow reveal is perfectly nice. But are you excited for Nosferatu? I am. This is an incredible trailer. It builds up a lot of atmosphere. It gives you almost everything that you need to know without giving, like, Louis is saying without giving anything away in terms of visuals and knowing what Count Orlach looks like or what he's designed as. And what I dig about it is that Eggers has kind of largely, quote-unquote, like grounded a lot of his films, whether even that be like the V-vitch where it's like, well, the witchcraft is there, but it's also like people just forming human sacrifices or like stealing kids and like eating them kind of thing. Maybe like more fantastical towards like the ending of that movie. But still, like, there is a lot of, there's a lot of like, just strange human behavior that I'm watching in this trailer that I really dig. Whether that's like, I forget, it's not Timothy Spalds, like some other character actor dude who's just like heading a rat and like maybe gonna go eat him. I was like, this is great stuff. I'm pretty in it. Simon McBurney. Yes, thank you. Simon McBurney kind of just like rat petting. But it's very eerie. It gives me a lot of those vibes of like Eggers kind of just like going for things that he also has a passion for, which is like seriously like dark stuff, which I dig. I am reminded of a tweet that I saw recently. I've referenced two tweets at this point now for all the people accounting. Regular bibliography over here. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I like set of my sources. But somebody was just like, you know, none of you guys deserve this because you guys let the Northmen flop. And I kind of agree where I'm just like, you know, if you guys are on the Eggers train now, you know, try support him in all the things that he's trying to do. I know the Northmen was like a little bit of a larger scale. But yeah, I'm pretty in this for this movie just. And I think that the music here is actually really good. I refrain from watching this on a computer screen. Because I basically figured that it would be in a trailer near me pretty soon. And watching the movie this past week, it was there. And I was not blown away, but I was really excited for it. As I don't think I explained this to you, but I saw that I saw that Asperace trailer in theaters before it came online by going to, because I already seen the bike riders, and I was going to go see Tuesday. Okay. So I was like, well, if I buy a ticket to the bike riders first, because Tuesday starts shortly after I can just stick her up to the trailers and then walk over to Tuesday, we did a neighboring theater. And I pulled that off because I saw that us were out to trailer that promptly left. But I was very happy to see that trailer on the screen. It delivered for me. I very much look forward to this movie. It's one of my most anticipated years. Well, I'm a big Eggers fan. I like what he I like what he's throwing down. We have a commentary for the original Asperat 2 on this. We do. So on this podcast, you know, we'll be sure to you know how I know that because I was. Yeah, I'm aware. Yeah. It was a good time. You do show up for the horror ones. I think it helps you get through them. Seemingly, seemingly against tight for you, but yes. But yeah, I absolutely look forward to this movie. It already has one of my favorite shots of the year with that hat that shadow of the hand going over the entire city. That's just fucking cool. And that's what I want for this movie. Like if it scares me cool, I guess, like I don't care where the last time I get scared by a vampire. But in terms of just playing here, I think the Reapers man now split open. That is another thing. Oh my god. I'm happy I call Reapers to buy immediately. But yeah, I I agree with you as far as yes, as he's been channeling for now. At the same time, I see I see a lot of Hertz song in there from his 79 version. There's even some copula in there from the Brahms Stoker's Dracula. Yeah, especially like the opening part of this trailer. And it, you know, Eggers is a stud a student to film. I'm sure he has plenty of like ways to homage a variety of vampire features while still making it his own. And I'm absolutely forward to whatever he comes out with all this. Yeah. So yeah, Nasferatu arrives in theaters. Obviously this Christmas. Hey, wow. You say the whole family to go see it. Yes. Yeah, I cannot wait. I cannot wait to rush over from church on Christmas today and watch. Is it literally being released on Christmas day? Yes, Christmas day. Yeah, it's it's a Christmas miracle then. I hope when you're racing from church, you're playing the the Karen O version of the immigrant song from girl. The feel bad movie of Christmas as they call it at the time. That's not to get you with the spirit. We should make a list this year and of like the the most hardcore Christmas. Only if we check it twice. Yeah, I think I talk about that. There are must I think I don't know if you guys remember that movie Wolf Creek. It's like, oh, yes. Oh, we remember Wolf Creek. I could have sworn I came up during Christmas too. Oh, I think didn't scream. Come out close the Christmas scream and scream to are both late mid December movies. Oh, okay. Yeah. Black Christmas, of course, Alien vs. Predator, Requiem, obviously. If you just had to take a shot in the dark, you'd be like, obviously, you'd be on Christmas. It's still the Christmas movie release that matters. How could you get that masterpiece? And at least you're not wrong. December 25th, Wolf Creek did arrive in theaters. Yeah. Yeah. On on 1700 screens. A lot of screens. I hadn't seen that movie until last year. We did our Australian horror themed episode in October. And I liked it more than I was expecting. But what I really didn't expect was that I liked Wolf Creek too, even more. So yeah, not as proud to this Christmas. And we should bank that idea of like drafting up our picks for like the best hardcore Christmas release. I like this idea a lot. Yeah. Good idea. You're gonna write that down right now. Or Christmas releases. Okay. Save that the bag. Yeah. Well, hopefully we get still on the show for a guest spot. Well, we should aim for a Gustav, the older brother, the brother between Alex and the Viking brother. Yeah. The Viking brother. Yeah. You know, get him in the, and then ideally, he's like, you know what? I'm just gonna get my dad. I could sell it on here. Let me get my dad, who's the bad guy. The feel that movie of Christmas. We are great at this. Okay. Let's move on. Yeah. Let's get to our main review for a quiet place, call it day one. You can't have a cat in here. It's a service cat. We can help each other. We have to get out of the city. That should have been some of the trailer for a quiet place. Well, in day one, director, John Krasinski, he delivered two quiet place films that were met with strong reviews and box office. Naturally, Paramount was happy to have a new franchise on their hands and development of a prequel began. Initially, director Jeff Nichols was lined up to take on the project for dropping out due to creative differences. Then thanks to Krasinski's appreciation for the film pig, director Michael Sarnoski came aboard the project and co-wrote the screenplay with Krasinski. Now we have a quiet place day one, which features Lupita Nyong'o as Sam, a terminally ill cancer patient on a trip to New York, hoping to score a slice of pizza in exchange for joining our hospice group for a show. Wouldn't you know it before getting our hands on that slice? Aliens dropped to the planet and began attacking everybody. Quickly figuring out that sound attracts them, Sam and her frichener cat Frodo attempt to make their way across the city of safety, eventually being joined by Joseph Quinn's Eric, a terrified British man who just wants to survive. Can they stay quiet? Will they survive? Louise, I'm curious, have you been a fan of the quiet place films and what do you think of this latest entry? Well, I know a lot of people really loved the first two. This is starting out well for even I keep going, keep going, keep going. The first one I know is generally considered to by a lot of people to be one of the best films of 2018. I would say it's objectively what probably one of the more impactful films of that year. I like them, but I don't love them to the levels other people do because as cool as the concept is, I do think that the characters tend to do some really dumb stuff. It's almost like they're trying to force the creatures to come and chase them or force the tension. I did like the family dynamic of the previous two movies. I appreciate that they try to expand the lore a little bit in the second film. For this one, I ultimately, you know, it's a prequel and to me coming into it was like, okay, show me why you exist. Like, show me is this going to expand the lore in any way? It's going to give us any new information. It's going to be a good way to sort of like add this to the other films. What's basically become this franchise, this grander story. And even though I came away liking it, I didn't love it. So basically, I came away feeling about this movie like I have the other films. But it's interesting that there's things that frustrated me about this movie mainly that I felt like it ultimately didn't really show me why it existed. I didn't feel like it expanded the lore. I didn't feel like it really gave me better or new information about this story. I don't know how I didn't think it really added to the other two movies. But I did really love the fact that in all the monster horror and chaos, they decided, and I think this has to do with Sernalski's influence given what he did with Pig, where there is sort of this interesting meditation on the human characters here, particularly our two protagonists. And it's kind of like this interesting meditation of life and death and dying and what it means to live. And sort of like trying to almost live in the moment in that in the same way with Pig, where you see the sea where in Pig Nicholas Cage breaks down when he finds out that his pig is dead. And without any context, you might laugh at how overreactive he is to learning this. But then because of the way that that movie is structured and you see how special that pig is to him, you feel for him when he learns that news, where he in this one, it's like, okay, the whole movie is basically her trying to track down a slice of pizza. And in any other context, it'd be like, this is stupid. Why are you worrying about the slice of pizza? But because it is sort of this thing of she knows she's dying. And it's about the pizza sort of representing her last chance to really enjoy life, even as the apocalypse is raining down, basically, that I really dug. I just wish that the lore was expanded in a way that made me feel like this movie added to the other two movies. Okay. Hey, Luis Arty gave us a virtual high five. I tell him if he's out of the fireplace with Oh, Luis, let's get into that. I mean, I do want to say I like them. We just Oh, no, no, trust me. We like them five. You're in a safe space. You're in a safe space. It's it as we've made clear. We've had a different sort of history of quiet place to bring to others. Remind audiences where you may be with both of these films. Luis, again, I like the second one more than the first one. But I mean, what do you think? And what do you think of this new one? Safe space, Luis. The first one, I think Aaron and I are like in the huge minority. They were like, this movie is not very interesting. And it's actually maybe not that good. And then second one, I liked it better because I think it kind of it reached perhaps what I think Chris 60 didn't necessarily intended to reach in the at the end of the first one. And then it just goes into a much more sort of like expansion of other people that are dealing with this crisis and this alien invasion. So yeah, safe space. I think that we were just talking about this a few weeks ago. And we were just remarking about how John Krasinski's underground bunker with, you know, the visual cues for an audience to really get this sense of what's going on in the story are just so loud on the screen. And it makes me laugh every single time that, you know, there's three in the area and it's sound. So that's what is weakness. Yeah, question by question by question mark. But as far as this one goes, I really like this one. I think that it might be like maybe up there in terms of like better than the first one, but then also it doesn't necessarily have as much like action or as much interaction with like a ton of characters as maybe the second one does. But I really liked it for what it is doing. And it is like this contemplation on the end of life and as a metaphor for a lot of things. But I really dug that it doesn't ask you to necessarily delve into many more characters. It kind of just has like a pretty small core group of folks. And what it's going to do with those folks is it allows you to really explore the world with them. And I really dug that about it. Like they didn't have any cutaways to any like news anchors or they didn't have any cutaways to anybody else like in Connecticut or New Jersey or anywhere else or like you know some military exploration of things. It was just these two people kind of or just one person really Sam that were following and her cat photo that were following and just getting a sense of the upheaval that would come the panic that would come the like the feeling out of placeness that would come in a place that you have grown up in. And I really enjoyed that. Like this cold open that they have here pretty effective. I wasn't even sure how I was going to like to be because I think that I've seen this trailer so often you have the teaser of the first one so often I was like oh I know it's going to happen here. Like it's just going to be like a reprise of a lot of like the key things that they do here. I've heard I've heard that a lot. I feel like I'm in the one area that didn't play quietly trailer all the time. I think the trailer like twice maybe like it's weird. I feel like just didn't see this trailer. But you also go to a lot of press screenings. And so they probably don't play like I go I go to enough movies where I've seen trail. Like I see that speak no evil trailer every fucking time. Yeah. Like they played it before inside out. I was like I speak no evil for inside too. I'm kidding but still they do put the trailer. I've seen that trailer so many times. I think I've seen that a lot. But it has seemingly had a large like marketing budget is is all that. It's a great great job on them for creating that green lit. But the movie is is really it's it's just really interesting contemplation about human existence and kind of knowing that your time is coming to an end. And can I just have like one last wish you know and whether that is pulling yourself up to to go against the grain literally in a scene of all the people kind of fleeing toward freedom and safety and kind of just like weathering the storming going into it. I think that there's a lot of like I forget who said it but but there's like a lot of folks that have said like when you watch movies on mute and you can still understand what's happening. It's kind of like like good movie making. And so I haven't seen pig in a while. But I hear what you're saying there to Luis about just like about some some some some gravity with the emotional weight that is happening in this movie. So I I really dug that there's like movie magic that's literally happening in this movie that I felt when I was watching it whether that is a marionette sequence and kind of just like being taken away and all struck by that again no dialogue in that sequence or even like a card trick sequence. And I was like this is this is beautiful like this is this is why people should go to the movies. This is why people have like artists like directors and actors like wanting to pick up a script and be like I want to borrow this movie. And this movie was like very captivating in that I was sitting in like a semi-packed theater ish and like there's a scene where like somebody has like you know jump off like a little balcony kind of thing into some water. And the people next to me like clapped. And I was like this is not I was unexpectedly I wasn't expecting it and it was really fun to see people kind of immersed in this movie like that. And for this runtime for its gravity it's a pretty small tight script around these this one person kind of going through like various various like game levels to some degree. It's very last of us influenced to some degree too. But I really enjoyed that it was just I don't know like moving through life. And I know I knew like kind of where things were going to happen and what was going to happen toward the end there. But I really dug that it had a vision for itself like you know Michael Sarnoski or Krasinski when they're writing this had a vision for what they wanted to do here and had a clear understanding that let's not overcomplicate things you know like this isn't something that nobody needs to like retread on like anything that we may have done in the past because people know the world in which is going to happen in day whatever that Krasinski and his family are in. But for being a day one I liked it you know this reminds me of like some Warlord Z stuff where you know when that when the outbreak starts and people are kind of panicking and there's just like a lot of like everyone out for themselves kind of thing and I felt that especially like in the sequence where Lupita Nyong'o is almost going to get trampled and it's like nobody's helping her out and she's like getting into the face and it's just like not my favorite. But yeah I really dug that there was like a lot of simple things that they did in this movie whether that be writing a notepads or a lot of Lupita Nyong'o just giving us facial acting and she's tremendously good at it. Or even who's the other guy, Joseph Quinn, giving us facial acting and he's like also really good at it too probably because he's like this British guy from Kent who doesn't maybe doesn't want to be in the US for law school kind of thing. But I really just dug this for what it was and it didn't really blow me out of the water for my expectations again I wasn't really expecting a whole lot but I I was pleasantly surprised by it. Okay. Um just to reiterate yeah I think the quiet place is fine. I like to quite a bit I think it's just a really solid increase in far as what Kursinski's able to accomplish. I think having just recently watched again I think the editing of that movie specifically is very good as far as balancing multiple story lines in the way that it does as well as creating thrills and ultimately I think the moment to moment of that movie is why I like that one a little bit more than day one but I also like day one quite a bit um for all the reasons that you guys kind of already got into but for one thing I know Cenarski children and men was a big influence for him on this one. Oh that makes sense. Yeah it does right um and I think that helps and when it comes to kind of the when it has to do quiet place type stuff which can feel video gamey to a point it helps to know that like there is a running understanding of what he's trying to accomplish outside of the kind of main elements of it all which is keep quiet watch out for monsters that kind of thing and ultimately that plays a great role in how this movie is structured and how we're playing out. I immediately latched on to these characters I think that's just really well handled everything you said about to kind of be you know the the fact that that Sam is terrally ill like that creates such a different sort of character to follow along with and having this very relatable idea of I just want a slice of pizza I was immediately hooked on that like that I latched on to so much quicker than the quiet place kids and the family like I was just like no this is the person I get I get this person and error for that matter I'll get back with him um as far as like at least you're mentioning kind of like does the movie like justify why it exists or what have you. Here's where I'm at with that to me when it comes to horror movies especially like horror sequels if we're doing a certain thing I get that we're gonna keep doing that thing like if I'm watching a new Halloween or Friday the 13th I'm like I don't really need much more than what I'm expecting from that I'll go even further Godzilla which I talk about always if the the bar for success to be with Godzilla movies generally is does it have Godzilla in it like that's really all it amounts to it doesn't like you know there are better and worse examples of Godzilla movies but like that's all I really need so with the quiet place because I've seen this come up a lot as far as like is it expanding the lore we're learning more about the monsters I could give a fuck like I not care where they come from I don't I don't care what their goals are which I assume it is they ravage a planet eat everything in sight and then move to another planet like any other alien like I get it this does not concern me like the idea of learning more about them like what do I need to learn they're like you know the idea you know how do we how do we learn things about them it's like they're allowed be quiet like I don't like what else do I need to understand about this it's like what do they eat whatever they come across I guess I don't know like I get it none of this concerns me sure yeah like the core to quiet place movies for me clearly comes down to how do we take this larger-than-life thing that's taking place in this place in this case an alien invasion and make it as minimalist and primal and emotional as possible and the first two movies it's very clear you have a single family on a farm what are they doing second movie similar you have that same family and they have to kind of move a little bit this movie the whole of New York is told we are given right away the decimal level so fucking it's insane how high the decibels are in New York oh yeah you can't believe how high the decibels are that's how like right it's right it writes that out it writes out exactly yeah exactly how i'm saying errands reading and verbatim yeah you can't believe how high the decibels levels are it's weird they use uh ai rush limbaugh to read that but do that's here they're here we're there um yeah but but they have you know they have all of New York but wisely sardazkin krasinski boy those are names um together when you say them out when you say them together like that that's fun like uh good good for east europe coming over um taking that story just moving it all the way down to a single person and what she's dealing with with the fact she wants pizza cool add another couple on there add like a reference because gynon shows up i who doesn't want to have a gynon interview great and that's all i need that's the this is the latest entry in quite quiet place mods are still running amok there's more of them now whatever fine i'm down with that and i like that this movie gets down to business in that way it's pace quite well in terms of there's a lot of time spent like that hold open i think it's quite long um and i and you get everything you need to know about this along with a character player alex wolf and i'm like well i i know where this is going um he's also getting facial expressions he's good a c a d was in pig like i like that cenoscis brought him over that's one um and at first i didn't because he has a big beard right but i'm like where's that mole and by all there it is that's all there it is i see him i see him in there but no it it gives me what i need as far as how am i setting this thing up because i have to deal like a new set of people now and if you're gonna like change your cast around yeah diongos had choice because she's a very good actress and and she does the job in here this is not a surprise to me when they now this hurt is gonna be like well at least the acting is gonna be strong joseph quinn i know him from stranger things and other things he's been in that i cannot say oh that's joseph quinn um so you know going into this it's like he's the guy in stranger things that's that's all i can literally recognize him from offhand so here i think he's really good i i one thing it shows his range because he's playing not the same person as he plays and stranger things he plays here yeah but also i really like the gender dynamics at play he is playing what would be in the 80s and before the girl part essentially quote on note sure yeah yeah he is playing the scaredy cat he is terrified we are introduced to this man just emerging out of a puddle like as if he either hid there or what and it is terrified he doesn't know what to do the only sense of solace he has is there's this cat and i guess that seems like a good idea let me follow that the cat reanimates him that's what you missed it spreads a little it spreads a little button no no but by the cat drinking the water it's like electrified the water oh i get okay yeah that makes sense yeah i think that your my ideas have stupid your your idea makes for you thank you um but no i i really i really like this performance i like them together i like as they you know form this kind of just but basically it's humans bonding it in a in a time of crisis where it's like what the fuck else are we going to like let's at least like even if it's reluctant at first they form this kind of chemistry where they have to you know basically not talk to each other uh for good stretches of film but still like form a bond in some way and i just i think that really works i i like the journey that we're on i can't i'm not a new yorker i can't say how how street accurate this journey might be right and i'm sure it's a problem i had questions like that too like but it's like i you know we're over here fans the premium rush so i don't care how fast you're getting around to places like it's like it's fine i just don't let harlem is north and they are in chanda which is below east side oh spider-man is top spider-man is taught me a lot of that for sure like that doesn't seem like a long walk taking but regardless of all that no i i very much appreciated the character journey we're on i like that it doesn't quite this quiet place movie doesn't betray what i like about quiet place which is having you know time to spend with like why should we care about these characters and i think it really does a good job of that like the the scares and stuff we can talk about the you know production of what have you it's effective some of it leans a bit more the same way the other movies do on we need this to happen as opposed to this naturally happened which is like okay i get it it's a horror movie you need to have scares but still i i mean i think it's effect like like the other two i think they are effective cinematic experiences the kind of thing where as an audience member you even you don't want to make the ways and that's something i always like about this quite please watch them and the audience is also in on it they're like not only do i not want them to make the ways i don't i don't want to open my bag of chips i won't do anything right now i need to i need to be quiet or else or else millisence is going to have her face ripped off by an alien but that's that's what i need which is a great viewing experience and and um there was actually a guy that coughed in our screening and people were like oh my god so like even i was like is there no do you make too loud you put your big jime on hand around it was so quiet he was he was unfortunately like you know four rows down so it couldn't do that but yes a lot of people were looking at him because it was attempted over the road yeah you surfed down the sea get to it don't you understand what's at stake here man say a good movie yeah i want to ask you um uh you guys around the sort of um the the non-verbal they're they have uh discuss about there's more i'm sorry i said that again by default there's more dialogue than yes yeah because they've got to explain some stuff right especially like earlier the movie but um you know this isn't a dynamic like what we had in the first two whereas more family base and they kind of have sign language help them out this is a lot of visual hand cues of like don't follow me or or like i'm gonna come in or be quiet kind of like hands to the face kind of link so here's how you guys kind of um glad about them sort of frading this world for looping the yangho because again day one not really sure what's happening here they kind of know the sounds happening here but uh it sounded sound is like the enemy here but here's how you guys thought of the execution of this well i mean uh i'll say that if i wanted to be like super nitpicky i will say that i i do think there were times where again i felt like things were getting a little bit forced in terms of like how much accidentally a uh a noise would be made and it's not like obviously if this were like a real life situation obviously you're gonna have those moments like that were because you know i don't think we take for granted just how much noise you know it's made around this as we're moving and such but like there'll be there were so many there were i think a little bit more than they're then i could buy in reality moments like you know you know we're talking we're talking like like a spoiler right or because i want to be careful with what i'm about listening to yet okay so i'll say there is there is a what i would refer to as a bit of a major character death here that is is caused because of a uh a certain machine just suddenly turning on yeah and the whole way that that is done to me didn't feel to me didn't come off natural it did feel to me like oh i'm watching a horror movie and these things happening horror movies to create tension and such and then the whole thing which is in the trailer about the um the briefcase yeah like that to me it's like oh come on but but i will say i did one of the things that i really did like and i they touched on it but i may i kind of wish they would have touched on it a little even a little bit more than did was the whole like taking advantage of the water like in particular to have a conversation um under the water and such like that i thought that was really interesting in the way that it was used in this in this one um so i i i i think generally was dunked but i do feel like i can kind of nitpick that maybe sometimes it felt a little forced to me and not as natural sure um i can agree like that's the thing i like about two is that i can usually i can easily chalk up most of the things that happen to their kids you know they make some mistakes this one's like yeah there's stuff that happens where yes there's a scene that takes place where i am 17 steps ahead of what's gonna play out here like it just like and that's that's that's like that that amounts to what my issue of quiet place films are and it's not it's somewhat not fair but these are very horror 101 type of movies these are not you know for massive horror fan and granted there were massive horror fans that do like these movies a lot more than i do but for massive horror fans there's not a lot new here if you like boil it down to some of its basic elements and so when you have scenes where not at like when a person stands in the street you're like a car is going to hit them that's how it works like there's stuff like that in this movie where like you just know what's going to happen and it does it kind of takes the it takes a bit of the punch out of it because you've just seen these kind of movies before now not at all audiences like to go see horror movies but they do seem to like you see these quiet place movies and so i get that you kind of have to you know play to all the quadrants so to speak and it's the kind of thing where i could forgive that but it doesn't like raise the esteem of these movies in my eyes to me sure okay um i think this movie looks really good now this movie has a higher budget than all of us do okay also it's shot in London and not New York i was surprised by that fun to think about yeah i did say for the credits and i did it did uh have them on the the London set but i thought that they actually kind of got some stuff in New York but i guess they didn't but it looks pretty good i mean i say there's some second unit stuff or whatever okay yeah sure but yeah and i'm sure that they've got like you know but a New York street created in that London for sure and then pine wood or wherever right yeah uh but it's just a good looking movie that includes the aliens i mean we get we because the first movie obviously is trying to hide them for a good majority of it the second one is like well you know what they look like so here's more of them this one it's like there's you know 50 of them all over the place at one time you can't really like play coy with what they look like so instead but it's like well it's just double down on the look and make sure they look good and they do i like seeing them up close and being like that what they look like and i think they look pretty good it's a good effect i like i like the monster design monster down is good i also like that we're able to see how ferocious they are like whether they are running in packs like right away with this giant rumble uh or like trying to scale buildings and trying to get helicopters i was like this is really cool to see because we didn't really see this in the other ones they're kind of like solo dullowing it in the previous movies minus like maybe like the opening sequence of cut place two where they've attacked the town but um yeah most design not bad um and i i also dug that i think they made they made the the design look a little bit more uh i don't want to say like uh or menacing but it it feels like they had some time to add more effects to the creature design so yeah you got more shots of like their mouth in this time around and it's like the armor on their hands and like all this stuff so it's like you got a couple extra million so they they used it yeah that's true you know so i did like that aspect too but i always think about the the uh aliens from attack the black and just how cool that shit was oh yeah um and like nobody's beating that for like the budget that that we're doing here it's like just blackout aliens with green tongues and eyes like come on Lewis are you found out they're the quiet place monsters yeah i like the creature design but honestly i've never really had a problem with their creature designs yeah for these movies but yeah i can see how uh it's arguably even better and it's interesting to see them particularly at how many we get to see in the in this one um um i i i also felt like the sound design was i would argue maybe a tad better than the other ones sure just because i feel like this one had to deal with a little bit more sound than those than the previous two did and and he's seen the theater that i was at because my screening was set at adobe theater yeah and i you could really like hear sort of the background noise of certain things so i thought i doubt even the sound design was uh better honestly i mean there are a lot of things here that i do think are better than the previous two movies i think the sound design is a little bit better um i think you know with all due respect to krasinski you know i i do think um sernalski's a better director and i think and the acting is really good in this one that's to say the acting in the other movies are bad or anything like that but it's like you you could you know we have a oscar winning actress in the lead here playing a johnny storm but from from a technical level i i yeah i do think uh there are improvements here sure lewis i want to dig in a little bit more in what you're saying about the better directing i'd love to hear more of your thoughts about that part well i just feel like he has a certain but the thing about sernalski is that i feel he he's able to just showcase the human emotion better um whereas i i feel like with krasinski it's like i think i know what he's going for but i don't know if he hits it as perfectly as maybe it's in his mind be sure with with with sernalski is just he's just able to really make you feel for his characters i mean i honestly i you know it we're only two movies in with him but i just feel like he really is able to nail getting these characters on an emotional level to the point that again something you know innocuous things like a guy demanding worse his pig or a woman who wants to have her last slice of pizza before she passes away is able to really kid the audience yeah and i talking to some people and reading other reviews um i do think that he may have elevated this movie compared to what someone else who may have done this would have done it because he really is able to nail uh that human element which i think is really comes into play and is super important during the third act of the thing yeah to um to go ahead saying as far as the direction goes i i agree with you i um it's there's nothing to do with how i feel about john kosinski i think it's a fine um i go ahead say it um but i do think not unlike what i was talking about with if which we reviewed a few weeks ago i think krasinski wants to rely a lot on the things he has working with them which is the score the cinematography yeah i think and that's not a bad that's not a bad thing for a filmmaker to do sure you have a team of people working with you you're gonna do what you can't however i do think there is uh it feels more manipulative in his so particular the first one which is part of why i'm not huge on it where he's pulling things together based off of you mean you didn't like when he sacrificed himself for his family what he was talking about this specifically but there are things that there are things that he's doing that i think knows will elicit a reaction regardless of how well it's done yeah but just by having certain sounds or score cues or whatever it just you know you're naturally going to feel something because it's forcing you to yeah this movie i think believe i think what you're saying i agree with you is that sardoski is more organically figuring out how to pull those pieces together specifically in the character scenes you know that the quiet place scenes you know like the big scares or what have you the set pieces that you know that that works on a visceral level like you know if you like it you like it uh which i do for the most part but when it comes to yes when it comes to understanding what sam's journey is and what eric's journey is right i do think this film gets how to portray those things in a way that makes me care naturally instead of feeling like i'm forced to care about them yeah and i i don't have a lot of evidence on this because i haven't i haven't really done a whole other you weren't on you weren't on the set no no i i was but i was like in the background you know i was actually just uh over at uh this next table kind of just being like oh good you're just you're at a sabaros yeah i was just oh blood blood did sabaros in london they call those um actually i don't want to great what do they call what do they call i don't know i don't have a granny for for pizza over at sabaros there in london no but i was just saying like krasinski we've seen his movies previously too you know whether that be like we're was the movie that he had with like character actress uh margo martin dale the hollers the hollers yeah like so it's it's very like family centric in his movies and he certainly has like a specific thing that he seemingly always wants to go for even if that even if it's his most recent movie if um and sort of like what louise was saying earlier around uh michael sarnoski sarnoski i think he kind of delves deeper into like loneliness and and like human emotion and i think that that it helps out that this world that we're being impacted on in this new york setting is very desolated and isolated at a certain point and so that really helps out so i hear all that because i would agree because i think krasinski he's fine i erin i ranted to erin about um about if uh a few weeks ago um like off air and i i still think that you know krasinski is probably stronger when he has things that are a little bit more like leaning toward thriller horror uh and you know that's kind of like where this kind of was accepted but all this say is that when you have a director that is able to draw out this human element like the uh like the natural human element of being scared or being who you are in a moment like this it helps that the characters don't really go off the script and so this goes back to like what erin was saying about just a quin like just of quin doesn't all of a sudden become like a badass in this movie you know what i mean like he doesn't pick a little guy shotgun and be like this one's for you lapita like he doesn't do any of that shit like he has panic attacks and he doesn't know how to like do it he's actually he causes a a like an attack when they're like trying to you know walk through some subway lines you know what i mean um and lapita is like kind of mad at him right but he his character doesn't really change his his whole entire arc actually changes sort of at the end where he like kind of sums up the courage to do something but still yeah yeah he has a natural kind of arc as far as you know finding the finding the strength to pull something off when he wouldn't have in the earlier part of the movie yeah but i mean also like you know just this tendency to to want to survive still all to say that i think the directing and all the acting and also like this tighter script with smaller cohort of people really all comes together to really make this a movie that i think is is much more than what i expected so the the just a quick part of things i really just dug that he is the fish out of water you know what i mean and what i what i think that uh nothing hurts him in this it actually helps him that he is like this scared guy doesn't really know what to do doesn't really doesn't have anybody in the city so he latches on to liping the youngest character sam and then they kind of tap their journeys but they both have a catholic moment like when they're in her apartment just like screaming as like the thunder is clapping you know and and that's really helpful as uh as they grow into um characters that we we want to root for that we're following you know i think that crescencies movies are fine too but i think that he also has way more characters whether that be just you know uh killing murphy or german hansu but also within that family unit he's got like two kids and like two adults and a baby you know what i mean and that's a lot of people to like share the screen with to build uh to build suspense and to build whatever else with but this one is like it's pretty simplified i think the only thing that can really sort of nitpick at it is like the cat probably would be that quiet um and also like what louise is saying like when you're actually like walking on glass and something like that maybe that's not as quiet as you think but um so let's so let's talk about this because we've somehow got to this whole review of that talking about how i think great this cat is in this movie it's robo played by play by niko which nitzel two cats to practical cats they did not use cgi oh i could tell when she was trying to drag him at one point and the cat wasn't having it that's because it's good damn cat acting that's what this is in this movie we if you i mean i can't nitpick a cat not meowing because all cats are different that's the thing about cats they do their own thing like history they are they are of their own mind to do what they do if anything i'm happier the cat didn't like meow at an inconvenient moment because that's a cliche yeah that is the most cliche thing you could do is being like oh we made it i was waiting for that yeah and it doesn't happen i like that the cat is a is a is very much like chubaka like it's a character of this film that's not causing problems because it has to it's just a character that's moving so really good mechanic yeah yeah you yourself said that it regenerated queer yeah i mean this is true don't interrupt your own continuity to to be fair to be fair about the whole the cat and i'm the only thing you can make the argument that the animals have been known to sense certain natural disasters sure better than humans so maybe in a way you could argue that somehow the cat knew not to make the ones yeah i i don't know all of this yeah uh but just regardless i think the i i don't want to spend time in the cat here but i think it's worthwhile i mean the movie the movie has the cat for a reason right it's not you know there's a variety of things that happen as far as its interactions over characters that would have you but i do like that it is in this movie i like what it's able to accomplish not just the fact that it's a cat but like the fact that the movie is using it thematically it's using it effectively as far as a thing that both of these characters are responding to or have plot momentum that's based around like what we need to do a photo and certain scenes like i like that i like that this would be it doesn't just shove a cat in here and say and this it like actually makes use as a part of the cat yeah part of the plot yeah so what you're saying says these cats would have made argyle better probably i mean this cat does feel more necessary than the cat and argyle yes the cat and argyle just literally feels like window dressing so this movie yes has and it's not real yeah also also that also true yeah um cat and argyle so yeah um i mentioned jamon briefly but just jamon showed up makes me happy it all was great so it's said that he had a family and then you know later he doesn't i mean still he's the one that suffers the most in quiet place this is true this is true yeah quite best you yeah yeah but uh i mean like i wasn't looking to be like this movie needs to have like some kind of olive branch to make sure we connect it to the others like you know alien whatever but if you're gonna like find a space for jamon to be like oh i'm the fairy you know cool that's yeah it was it was really small it's really slight but it it made sense right it they didn't go they didn't go out of the way to make him a living larger character than necessary yes he's not like by the way jumbo is also the the you know the the government general that do everything all along about what yeah no he's just a guy and he doesn't tell them like if you ever get lost there's gonna be a secret island that we're going to yeah he doesn't provide them the map for exactly yeah like there's none of that stuff which i appreciate it because again this this world is very contained like all the people that they're talking to you the when she's like uh when when uh sam wakes up from an app or whatever else she's like going to go look at um uh this woman who's listening to the radio and space he's just saying like hey you know like loud noises are the thing and also like here's where everything's affected these coordinates and the globe has kind of been taken over but still that's the extent of it again we see some military people not for long we see some other people here whether they be characters that i thought were not going to make it they make it they're they're not there for long though you know what i mean and it's just very much in the presence of um sam eric and photo and it it works and i'm really excited that they were able to just really contain themselves for the runtime and also for like the screen just be like let's not add in you know a urgency special here and have like a a savior at the end there um for whatever reason it's like no no this movie is not that and i'm glad that sarnosky if he had creative control over this he's just like this is the movie that i want to make i mean they wrote the screenplay to get he wrote the screenplay as a excuse you know at first i was like why is he on this on the credit here did he get credit for the characters that he made but i guess he actually helped write the screenplay yeah look yeah it was his his his franchise it's like you know he's he's gonna be involved but yeah yes he co-wrote the screenplay i have a i can see i can see him doing being a co-writer but i will say i do i i i would bet anything that sarnosky had more sayings in some of these character elements but it's it's a it's a it's a it's a screenplay credit for sarnosky it's a story by kresinski and story by okay oh okay that's like they broke it down together then sarnosky wrote yeah yeah yeah yeah okay i have a question yes i've expressed already my dismay for the idea that we needed to know more about the aliens or what have you do you guys feel a similar way or do you think the movie would benefit from like some elaborate backstory for aliens or whatever louis said it well i mean i i wouldn't say that needs to be elaborate i just would have liked to see a little bit more but it's sort of link it together to make to add to the other two movies other than you know you know uh gimon yeah gimon's cameo like because he's not in the movie that much i mean i know it's like spoiler alert but like it it just would have been interesting to sort of maybe reveal a little bit more but i'm not i'm not asking for them to just suddenly haters with exposition that oh the the characters in the other two movies don't know this yet but it turns out these these aliens are coming from a mothership or some crazy stuff like that um but i've but i've just but i would have liked it just i've seen a little bit more to sort of really add to this add to the other two movies um so that if in the future you sit down to try to just binge all these together they they work a little bit more cohesively together um you know i mean it is a bit of a nitpick but it's just something that personally i would have like to have gotten from them i hear you i'm just curious because i obviously i've as i said i've i've just i've just seen this come up numerous times where it's like i i don't know what else i would have expected perhaps in a sequel in why plays three given where the sequel good the second film goes i can understand the idea to push more towards quote-unquote answers sure for this movie i just it just didn't occur to me to think i needed to like learn anything necessarily but i i hear what you're saying we say yeah i'm more on your side errand uh of your page of just you know i don't know if i necessarily needed more because i think when you hit the third movie of a franchise you don't necessarily have to like go backwards too much you know what i mean like i think about like horror movies and i think about like um well this happens more so with like i guess specifically horror movies but i'm not actually like trying to figure out like why the number necronomicon was like in that basement you know and what it's all about um by the third time i'm just like oh it whenever a memory reads it um weird stuff starts happening right so when i'm watching able to arise i'm like please don't read this book um and it's cool that they did go a little bit more into it by having graphics and whatever else but um i think about you know a movie that we we both kind of appreciated that the event this past year the first omen and the first omen was that one where it's like well let's delve into the past here and like you know they kind of give hints at like well you know we've got to give this baby out to some senator who's here in in rome right now it kind of or it does yes it does the very bare minimum at the end there to like tie it but yes but um but i'm also thinking about like stuff like predator where it's like well you know they're not like going through and being like predator it's like every every time like it's too hot in the jungle the predator is here because like it's it's hunting kind of thing but um yeah i i i don't know what i would have gotten more out of either because sometimes it it doesn't really necessarily move the the forward the story forward if you did know but also if you don't really necessarily need to know um and it's kind of fine without it then great because the other part is like well if they have this whole entire backstory about the aliens wouldn't we have to have like more information about like the human counter and the counter offensive because this movie kind of like drops some hints early around like whether they'd be like jets flying overhead or like you know humvees from under the streets that something has happened right and clearly the world has had there have been other parts of the world that are affected by this too it sort isn't concerned itself with that so i i think i think i think i think part of that comes from the fact that these movies are assuming you're a smart person that can piece together a lot of this stuff about needing it to be delivered to you in dialogue i think that's a big benefit of all three of these movies uh the the minimalism means you can get down okay of course the first one's like what is the weakest on a whiteboard it's like okay that's right so that's a little bit much but otherwise it very much you know piecemeal's derailleurs uh you know the stuff why did he move his family toward the water the the the farm is there my the big question i've had lately is how do they grow corn that doesn't make any sense like um in that angle mode i whatever i think it's fresh corn it's not like it's old it's fresh corn it's fresh yeah i have one last thing i want to talk about okay i'm curious you and you you guys have any other like points you wanted to make about bye please um i think that it's a pretty good prequel in regards to other prequels that have also been made i kind of read up uh i kind of read up um for some and but you know there's a lot of prequels that also are not as good um and what's that yes yes and so i was glad that it's able to kind of stand on some two legs because you could i think louisie were saying that you could kind of watch these things kind of out of order or slash in order um and it would still make sense and i'm glad because you know it's not that it hinges upon really anything it is fairly independent of its own of its own um accord yeah i will say i i took my wife to the screening and she had not seen the other two movies okay and she was able to easily follow this so it's not you know so sometimes so i will say even as someone who wanted would have wanted a little bit of a more lower building like some of these prequels sometimes are it's almost like they're they're they forget that they're prequel and um see if you haven't seen other movies that you might not understand something but this this one you can watch by itself it's no no pretty standalone film yeah so the last thing i want to talk about and i want to tread lightly here i was really enjoying this movie um and i like the arcs of these characters until the very last shot of this film which i really hated a lot i don't like it i think the ending sucks um but i'm not a fan um i i understand what it's doing because it's very much reliant on theme sure and if you want to tell me a story through theme that's fine but if i'm watching this movie and my takeaway is a character does a certain action that will be demonstrably worse than other ways to do that same action but i'm not in the best headspace at that point no matter how cool the movie thinks it might be because that's do a song and all that i was not like get up and go oh like yeah that was the best like great ending instead i was like i don't like this you know who gave that note who michael bae and you know what i didn't like the song choice i don't know if i necessarily dug what was i knew what was happening but i also am in your boat of like i don't know if i i it would have been better just in a different way i don't want to like rewrite and redirect this movie but yes i hear what you're saying because i also didn't like this i didn't like the song choice i i i wouldn't say i hated it but i did feel like that's one of those things that felt like it was forced yeah because to me it's like if if she's going to do that then i think it would have been like if it was a certain situation like the finale of the first one sure that to me would have made a little bit more sense where for for the way ended this and they're trying to make it seem with the way that she did what she did like like she's doing something courageous in a way and she's she did the way the shot is supposed to be like oh look at this she's kind of a badass for doing what she's doing but it's like no because even if it even to me it's like if i was in that situation you know to me it's like there are better ways to come to terms with the end and to me it's kind of because it's not like this is something where you you fall asleep to your passing it's you know it's something really rough so i you know i mean i didn't hate it it didn't bother me it didn't like it didn't take my star rating down to the movie right yeah but i said right i didn't walk out of the theater feeling like a sense of triumph in the way that i think the movie just really wants you to yeah yeah yeah i hear you it just it just felt like that how we do how do we got to end this and they just kind of like came up with this i'm telling you them okay for michael bay um but then i i think that it could have i thought that it was gonna be something else um sort of like the causeway area like where there's like a dramatic buildup toward the end there and i was like oh well if something might happen here um with regard to sound or whatever else and i was like oh that would be interesting way to go or it actually naturally ends in like a very beautiful spot when she is like looking at these photos you know i yeah i i was like you naturally could have had like she's sleepy i i was watching this through my fingers because like i think i know what this movie wants to do based on how quiet place movies work except it's going to be like a twist and i hate this i hate that this is what's going to happen and then sure enough a thing happened and i was like yeah that's such a oh i i can't like i know we're being vague and if you see we're being super vague it's just like it's the last like few minutes of the movie there are ways to do this that are also instance that would be better it's fine for that yeah angry angry so anyway anyway a quiet place day what and we've talked about it when should people go and see this movie Lewis why should people see this movie uh you know i'm gonna say a matinee showing over the weekend um but you know i i i think horror fans would really like this okay Abe yeah so you can go check it out in the theater i would agree i think that i mean you guys subscribe to yourself the sound design alone i think that just makes it a big a good cinematic treat to like watch this movie and like we said that that audience interaction as far as we all got to be quiet kind of thing like it just works on that level well the teenagers are out so be careful oh yeah they don't have school right now yeah and they read they love their moped pads and their e-bikes they're chasing dead planners yes to the zoo yeah oh man the zoos must be screwed by the oh no yeah it was probably done right the monkeys are all like we're going underground yeah exactly they're getting our get our monkey bunker monkey but they have those monkey but that's true yeah i've seen them all right what's that move on Abe what uh what time is it over here time for a good game or two Lewis did you know that that's actually the sound that plays when they first open the door to the bar but they cut that scene out of the movie because you just see the interior of the bar so Aaron did not get royalties for that once again denied um i have not won but two games for you guys this way ice the first game is called silent but deadly okay what what i'm going to do is read to you to be a plot description of a film featuring a silent villain and you have to tell me what the title of this film is okay if you think you know the answer buzz in the for your name you know the answer got it here's the first one a thought to be dead young man loses his mother and goes after a group of kids in a camp counselor and training program Abe Abe Friday the 13th incorrect oh Lewis Lewis Friday the 13th part two correct uh that's right i would have loved i would have been killed and scream yeah those things would have came right at you i knew that was a trick question as soon as i heard it here's the next one a deaf mute writer who retreated into the woods to the best solitary life must fight for her life in silence when a mass killer appears at her window Abe Abe hush hush is the correct answer no trip there wait the street here's the next one a young woman is followed by an unknown supernatural force after a sexual encounter Lewis Lewis if it follows it follows is the correct answer here's the next one an old relative returns to a Midwestern town in an attempt to kill his mute niece you can be there one more time an old relative returns to a Midwestern town in an attempt to kill his mute niece Lewis Lewis Halloween five good Halloween five Wow the revenge of Michael Myers is the correct answer you should become mute after the fourth one yes yeah that that's that's the story in the fifth yeah there's the last one Midwest got it there's the last one an isolated and eccentric count expresses interest in a new residence and a real estate agent's wife real estate agent's wife an isolated and eccentric count expresses interest in a new residence and a real estate agent's wife Abe Abe no sriratu 1920 no sriratu is the correct answer there you go well you're trying to sell them that land well you had a couple wins there Abe but Lewis you're the first you're the winner of silent but deadly apparently i'm on the feed it so far so hard podcast all right here's the next one for the next game it is called you don't say much do you and this is a game where i'm going to okay so all of the answers to this game are characters who are generally quiet in movies okay what i'm going to do is read you quotes that those quiet characters actually say during said movie wow yes what character i'm referring to if you only know the actor that's also fine okay can i give you a pre-guess i really don't want you to no no just give me this pre-guess okay fine shirani saturday live that's not one of them no that's not one okay so i'm going to read you quotes which would basically be like the one or two quotes that they have in these movies for the silent care this is not these are not horror movies they're just silent characters are there any horror movies i guess we'll find out okay all right let's okay here's the first one it's a boy it's a boy hmm i feel like i know this it's a boy who's one other will be find the one other quote here no i uh abe abe abe the omen incorrect hmm that's a loud movie everybody talks well i was like you know david doesn't say a whole lot you're not wrong he doesn't say a whole lot excuse me he's just like giving menacing stares okay here here's another oh you got one you lose but no i want to get scold yeah okay i'm happy here's the here's the other quote that i had okay who are we if we can't protect them we have to protect them it's a boy who are we forget them these are said by people that don't say a whole lot in the movie right correct it's a boy you're going to kick yourself when you get the answer i mean a well uh there was captain i'm i'm drawing a blank because the one that was going to say i don't think it is unless i completely have forgotten parts of that movie abe abe abe abe abe mad Max the answer is lee abet from a quiet place all right oh my god lord how nobody likes that guy we we we we we no we just been an all hour and a half i can bet it's a boy because they came back to her baby yeah okay here's the next one okay okay okay you know there's a million fine looking women in the world dude but they don't all bring you lasagna work most of them just cheat on you very specific doesn't say a whole lot in the movie this might be their only line in the movie wow i don't know you know there's a million fine-looking women in the world dude but they don't all bring you lasagna work most of them just cheat on you abe abe the big labesky incorrect i'm drawing a blank i here's a heads this character is defined by their silence oh um i don't know uh luis luis um cart what who's the character oh a silent bob silent bob is the correct answer from good job i was like mall rats i had a quote from ball rats but i thought it'd be too hard because it's adventure excitement a jedi craze not these things which if you know mall rats that is a you know it was like you know that that he was there that if you know if you know this game and mall rats that's a good that's a good one but also you'd be like whoa wait which which star wars movie is that yeah um all right here's the next one oh boy oh boy is a long the long world okay and even though mr whistler was perfectly aware that his mother was a hideous old bat who looked like she had a cactus lodged up her backside he stuck with her and even took the time to paint this amazing picture of her it's not just a painting it's a picture of a maddled cow who thought who he thought the world of and that's marvelous that's what i think he had a lot of say for yeah i know you're quite only at all in uh abe abe abe James and the jampage incorrect what some here's some some character from that movie here's a hint whistlers mother i don't have no idea no um um yeah i don't know this is the second time i think i brought this up in the game so i feel like i need to retire this answer because you just don't know it it's mr bean from bean definitely what i know yeah he gives the whole speech in that movie i will put because he's forced yeah so yeah i remember i remember trying to watch that in like 1997 that's like that's one of the movies that i've like one of the few movies i've stopped ever in my life i should give it a get another go 12-year-old they was probably not ready or i'll say this this i haven't seen bean in the longest time but mr beans vacation that movie is good the sequel is really but it is like i mean i know it's awesome you get us an amazing cameo from uh william dafoe that's like one of my favorite cameos ever here's the next one okay i'm not finished that's the line i'm not finished mmm there just doesn't say a whole lot now if you said i'm finished i would know what that's from but in this case it's i'm not finished in an example you should have done it the way that they said it i'm not finished i don't know this one then babe babe uh too long flu that's not it i mean i can hear those characters just by here the title that's how loud they are i'll give you a hint it's from a visionary director not like that child has been used for everybody low said idiot no i i'm i'm drawing a plane these might get easier as i go like i might have stacked it hard up at the beginning supposed to be end like i normally do it's edwards his or hands from edwards oh god i shouldn't have said it he was in the back of my mind but i didn't have to do i said it you no no no uh no uh dejections where i guess it's Lewis me reacting to that's Vincent Price at the end of thriller okay here's the next one okay it's better to help people than garden gnomes babe humbly humbly is the correct answer you're on the board good job there you go i think they do get easier now okay here we go okay i give you a five-minute window anything happens in that five minutes and i'm yours no matter what you know this Lewis you got this no no i don't babe babe drive drive is the correct answer oh see that's why i that's a blind spot of mine oh okay the Gosling Sansch all right here's the next one um there's two here okay what is a little more vulgar than the other so i'll go up the first one that's nice now go the vulgar one first you want to go with the vulgar one first no no no okay here's the first six-year point here's the first one go hug mom should i go with the gold vulgar one first i don't know this go hug mom i don't know okay here's the vulgar one okay i don't want to be your family i hate you fucking people i hate you divorce bankrupt suicide you're fucking losers you're all losers it's a good line read i don't want to be your family you're all losers i don't know but i feel like i'm gonna regret saying i don't know this is an actor that i used to not be a fan of heaven costner i mean there's a list i don't know this one but i feel like i should have known from your from your you know my excellent ladder eating yeah you're excellent ladder eating filled with passion this will be the character yeah blues no no i'm drawn to blank too this will be the character join from a little miss sunshine played by uh oh okay oh yeah who did one'sly his butte for majority of that would yeah you know it's amazing like most of these movies you know i've seen but then it's like just some random quote and all of a sudden your mind goes blank mm-hmm yeah but these are characters that don't talk much of that probably yeah so i was hoping that that's right i hope that like well it's the few things they say so maybe it'll be easy to pick up on uh here's the next one okay this is a two-part line so i'm going to read a sentence and then imagine there's a big break between this next one and then i have to say this nobody says anything in the break no it's just more of a scene takes place and then this scene this line comes up later here's a period is mm-hmm get three coffins ready my mistake four coffins babe babe i'm forgiven incorrect but you're on the right track those were the steel on the right track um shoot there's a movie coming up in my head but i don't if i'm forgiving something right track i don't know it might be off um okay uh this is probably going to be wrong uh do with jojimbo i mean that's a good guess you're you're you're all those right because it's a fistful of dollars which is a rebate you took an extra step you just showed us this movie knowledge you you you clued into the eastwood and they're like but what if i go for even for a little bit like as soon as you said that i was thinking about the uh about the mail no name or yeah yeah yeah no about the um in jojimbo the the shopkeeper dude that you know yeah okay yeah uh is that the same is that line also in your gym like specifically about line i'm trying to think i think you should give them the point it might be but i i can't tell you the character's name i just noticed the the shopkeeper and uh it was after well it was interacting with with buffooning yeah i feel like because you give us a new context in the point here no i'm giving i'll give i'll give you about half a point okay okay go go go go go go do something because i know that the body's committing was talking then he asked the uh the coffin maker dude guys in the background next i've watched your jib bill i'll go for it to see if there's exactly the exact same right line reading okay two more okay i am the one that runs from both the living and the dead hunted by scavengers haunted by those i could not protect so i exist in the wasteland reduced to one instinct survive you know like i feel like this is the perfect time for me to jump in then do it ab ab mad max from well you're right because it is the character i was like is it is it but i guess the road warrior it's from fury road but it's still your road it's mad max you did clued the right character okay that's that is the answer to the question because you're right i was like i don't think mill gives us in that line okay last one yeah where is pancake house i feel like i should know this where is pancake's house we stop at pancake's house i don't know this where is man cake's house here's a hit the character this person is saying this to says a lot more words than this character i don't know as in there are two characters in this scene and one of them talks all the time and this one talks very little about it time i i mean i'll give you another hits yeah because i want you to get this i really do you mentioned michael bay a number of times a the actor this character actually no both of these actors aren't lots of michael bay movies oh my gosh but not a my this is not a michael bay film it's not a michael bay movie but these two character actors have been in multiple michael bay films where is pancake house oh no one of them is a loud mouth it says a lot of things mm-hmm and is a very notable independent film actor mm-hmm the other one if you cannot tell has a foreign accent i don't know peter storm air not peter storm air yes that's right it's peter storm air in what name what about what okay so you named the actor fargo that is fargo you're perfect wait up all that out oh wow okay that was uh really out of thin air there you should have seen me spit out all of the milk allergy because well though it's despite the fact that you got one and a half points that route a used you were able to come away the way this game so you both won thank you well good game yeah gradually you won you don't say much do you so can get your job and that was okay kick out where's that kick out yeah if you said moto benakego i would know where the exactly that came from yeah well he talks all the time he talks too much yeah he talks a lot you're hearing nice so that was games thank you before we get to our our usual next segment which is of course our feedback be better than thank you uh we figured it's worth a halfway point of the year we are ending june we're into july why don't we quickly go over our top five favorite films of the year so far just to give us a heads up of where we're at with two years so far um so i think are we gonna i guess we like round we're about doing top five we could like round robin it right we can just go five three choice and four and three two one uh so go it's what's what's your number five film of the year so um for number five at the moment i'd say hundreds of beavers all right so for folks who don't know it's basically this silent uh comedy uh about this dude who's basically nousus's house because a bunch of beavers attack and then he ends up having to slowly but surely he kind of adjusts the frontier life and eventually he ends up he starts figuring out how to track the animals down and then eventually just a little bit of a sort of romance plot and where he's told that he's got to hunt down a certain number of beavers but it's done where the animals are like dudes in suits again in mask like mascots running around and it's like it's very reminiscent of that slapstick physical comedy from like uh the chaplain keaton uh sort of films and as someone who really likes um those type of 1920s uh silent films uh this i really dug this it is one of those movies that it can take like especially for some of the younger folks out there who aren't used to watching silent films it could be a little take a little bit of adjustment um and but i i just think this movie's kind of pretty innovative it's got it there's these cool little moments like it it kind of like recreates what it's like to pick an item like if you were playing a video game um and i like the comedy uh is is effective and it just it just really gives me it's almost like look at a modern day chaplain and keep him feeling like i said so i really dug it sure okay number five stop to watch that uh the number five for me is Richard Linklater said man um there's a movie that i seen theaters but it's probably on just about a release now but it is a showcase of um lead pal for one but also just Linklater being leafy goofy um in one of his his uh movies here and check it out it's a good ride yeah it's very fun i enjoyed a lot yeah my number five is ghost light um oh yeah this movie i talked about this a few weeks ago i think it's a fantastic drama i went by the daughter story right the father uh it's like a family a family drama of sorts because it's his father mother and daughter they're dealing with grief for a reason and the father joins a local production of Romeo and Juliet he's a blue collar guy he knows nothing about acting but it does help him work on his grief in an interesting way and while it is a drama there is a layer of humor and it's it's a it's an engaging watch it's very emotional but it's just a damn good dramatic feature and uh i think the actor Keith Kupfer who plays the lead on this movie is absolutely fantastic and if there's any justice he'll be not forgotten when it comes to award consideration into the air so yeah well it's what's your number four film um number four at the moment i have feariosa mad max saga um you know it this isn't like as i don't feel like this is a non-stop action as a theory role was but i still really really enjoy this um you know there's something about like i'm typically not that crazy about sort of post-apocalyptic stories but there's just something about the whole wastelands things that mailer has built that i really think and i think Angela Joy is awesome in this i like sort of the evolution uh or the story arc that you watch with her character she doesn't really say much or have to say much either uh i think the highlight is obviously krim sense work who i think is a incredible in the movie show stealer if it were up to me he would currently make my personal awards ballot um in the supporting actor category um i think the movie looks it's visually stunning i love the score i love uh the action sequences uh you could argue it runs a little long but uh for the most part i i think this really lived up to the hype and it's unfortunate more people than go check it out in theaters all right see movies and theaters luis is uh saying that out loud yes please please yeah here number four uh number four is the first moment i just mentioned this uh while i go but um this is a movie that i was also caught off guard by one that i was like well you know how good can it be and the director does incredible stuff with atmosphere in this movie including some really uh disturbing visuals um and also what i think about it is that technically speaking incredible lighting in this movie incredible lighting really good um uh uh what's the word i'm looking for when when they have to hit their marks what's that blocking blocking great blocking in this movie really really good camera work um cinematography excellent and then like some really good like body acting from the main lead uh at a certain point where she's like nearing a church and getting out of a car but still um really moody in the atmosphere and i really dug that it did its own thing while still paying homage to the 60s 70s films and then also not falling into traps that very recent like 2010s 2020 remakes slash prequels will do where it's like that's modernize it and make it much more like um edit friendly for people that don't have a large attention span so we need to like cut to a quick thing of like a jump scare or like cut to like something else like it's very deliberately based and it's doing its own thing so kudos i can't wait to see you more from this director um and again yep yeah she's been fantastic and so i'm i'm a big fan of this uh this movie here for movie abe over here number four on the list of first film and all right um my number four is eo kapatano this film was up for an academy award for best international future film earlier this year um but it only was released in u.s cinemas in february and also the oscars don't run well that i i do it is my list so it's my number four um i and i think this would be fantastic this if if i had seen this film in time for 2023 this would have made my top 10 last year and i think this movie is fantastic um it's from director matae ogarone who's an italian film maker but this film is uh it's it's about two senegalese teenage cousins who just travel all the way from uh from senegale all they're they're attempting to go all the way up to uh up to idly and um it's quite the journey it's a real odyssey to watch it's set in modern times it's just really really well done i think it's a a real a really effectively told story about a very real situation like it's not specifically based on any true story but it's obviously taking pieces and whatnot from a lot of true stories that have happened to people that have you know essentially exited their country and made a journey to get to a better life and uh it's just a really effective film great uh less number three uh my number three at the moment is kingdom of the planet of the apes um i really really have loved uh this this new sort of reboot in the series and and this and this new what's supposed to be i guess a new trilogy uh for the for this current uh reboot and um you know there's there's still a lot of questions as to exactly where some of these storylines are going to go that where things are set up towards the end um i i do think that there's a bit of a cop out with uh some of the uh one particular human character in this but for the most part i i like sort of the evil the natural evolution of where the apes are at compared to the last three films um i i enjoyed uh the fact that now the apes are more divided uh instead of as univistic where before you're starting to see certain factions go and have their different opinions of what sees or what's to them and uh i just i'm very very intrigued to see where this new trilogy goes uh with these new characters mm-hmm very cool hey number three love lies bleeding this is a movie that uh was i still think about my theatrical experience and how terrible it was over at the emcee but all that aside um it it was a movie that i think took some big swings that will mark as i said on the review or the the very quick quickies review that we had about it a few weeks year or a month ago um maybe even like six two months ago anyway but um big swings at the end there but this is a movie that i if you were an actor and you're just like well christian steward's like not a very good actress uh one of them been watching all of our movies two she's fantastic in this and so is i forget the the bodybuilder's name Katie O'Brien Katie O'Brien who's gonna be like in a ton of things because she's also fantastic in this but Ed Harris fucking killing it at like in court with like a fucking wig and then uh just be like the most menacing guy uh and it is it's a really good movie for like it's really got like nor style movie but it's also like a period piece because it takes us like in the 80s and a body horror film and again like third actor i was like you know this is not where i was going to go but i appreciate that the director was like had the the the guts to do something like this and just make it like either fantastical or just phrasey or whatever the case might be like i don't know what's happening at that point but it's like it's like a drug trip to some degree too but um i appreciate that they take some some chances there yeah in my i have a full post coming up to we live entertainment for my top 10 of the year so far and levelized meeting is in my top 10 for sure that's a right it's a good one my number three is doing part two the Dunning um i i am so enthralled at this universe uh something i did not expect to be when the first student came out until that would be happened and i was like i really like this and then the second one came out it's like all of this and more give me all that i think it's great i think it's a fantastically made movie um one of the closest i could recall as far as doing things on a scale and a level that i appreciate akin to something like a star wars which i don't say lightly um i think denny billin i've just has a great handle on how to deliver on this universe and i know we'll get dune beside or whatever they call it eventually and i can't wait because i just really i have no desire to read these books but i'm happy to watch these movies uh all right luice number uh number two well and number two i have got to learn kong the new world higher um you know immediately i'm a massive Godzilla fanboy and i i have enjoyed the monster verse films i understand why the monster verse films have been a little bit divisive even though general audiences i have started to really respond to them especially with the tone that the last two movies have maintained into um i understand that for some Godzilla fans you know these last two movies Godzilla hasn't necessarily been like the main focus uh he's been a little bit more sort of a sidekick to kong but i've really liked how they expanded on kong storyline here and as if you go and watch the old kong films it's like we've never seen him like this we've never seen him in more of in the kind of heroic role that we've been seeing him with these monster verse films i love the uh the expansion of the kong lore in this i thought the characters were really fun particularly Dan Stevens i've seen this movie four times already i owned it in 4k and it's just you know i i i get that they might not be necessarily everyone's cup of tea but i mean i i can't deny that watching this movie i kept i mean like i just had a big smile on my face for every moment i reacted to a lot of the moments particularly the a certain but uh the body slam moment in this that's wild uh you but yeah yeah i mean look we're not we're not talking about you know some you know this is a Scorsese masterpiece or anything like that but this is easily the most fun i've had at the movies this year so far but there you go Abe number two number two challengers look who better need no challengers this is a movie that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you can't really see it but i'm also like this pumping right now um this is a movie that is just it's really intense for what it's doing whether that be like the sexual tension on the screen and or just like the sports stuff i really did this as a sports movie as as well which we have to write in the review but it is a movie that i think people should go check out it has really good acting it has a pretty funny and compelling script and it actually latches on to what i think is a very hard topic that people don't really get right in a lot of sports movies which is the decline of an athlete and um a lot of people like make it too dramatic but this one's just like i don't fucking feel like playing anymore and uh it's it's really fascinating but yeah no challengers check it out great yeah another just i i'm looking forward to watching that again like that's what i really want to see like i like it a lot no i just like just being in that the vibe of that movie is just really fun uh speaking of really fun my number two is hundreds of beavers because it rules i i saw first time at home i was like this is super fun i i'm happy this exists they had a public screening of it nearby me so i saw that a few weeks ago oh my god this is just like such a great audience treat like as far as it's not just like that it's funny it's that there's so many like things that find ways to connect as far as what you realize the film is doing in the very silent comedy sort of way where like things are set up way in advance and then they kind of pay off later on yeah and it's it's both like the humor that you get from that as well as just like the that like you know that millisecond window where you feel like you're the smartest person in the world because you just discovered why this needed to happen to begin with it's that kind of feeling maximized into the greatest of ways i this is such a fun experience it's such a fun and creative well-made i'd argue well-acted given the lead performance that has to you know do a silent routine that keeps you compelled for the as long as the movie goes there's so much here that just for being a scrappy independent movie that very much looks like a scrappy independent movie this just delivers on all fronts it's a blast hundreds of evers find it see it how to see it yep it's on hoopla you can find it's right out there use your library card yep all right number once Louis what's your number one well and before before i say my number one i swear people who are listening i do have plenty of original films that i really like this year it's just that the first half of the year has been a lot of these blockbuster sequels have been really down my alleys but my number one is doing part two it's it i've seen this also four times i've already owned the 4k it's you know i i really like star wars but i wouldn't say as i'm in all i'm not as in all of that as other folks are i've been in all of these two doing movies i think this only makes the first one even better now that you really know where certain things are going i'm intrigued to see how this is going to get wrapped up with the messiah with the polytrades art um i i think the acting in here is just incredible i think the the the technical level uh the all the technical stuff particularly the scope the cinematography the score um i just i just love it when movies are able to give me that big epic feel um i remember when i went to the screening of this it was indubally and and just it felt like i was almost like the the sound design so good that it almost felt like i was with paul riding the sam worm when he first gets on it and it's just it's like this is just i really hope to messiah it's just as good because this just turned out to be like right up there with like lord of the rings for like what could end up being one of my all-time favorite trilogies in film and it's just epic it deserves all the praise that it's it's gotten um it's the only movie this year so far that i've given five stars on that or box um it's just the best thing that i've seen halfway through the year all right babe well no surprises june part two um and uh for one word and one word alone spectacle um this is a movie that is incredible to look at but again the new is in such complete mastery of all this this is a movie that he's been trying to make since he or he's had visions and thoughts of swordboarding since he was like 12 or 13 years old like his buddy and so he's been trying to make this movie and and i love that he is so in control of it that people have kind of taken it out of context he was like no no no guys this is also a movie about like it's a bad thing like what's happening at paul tradeies guys like don't forget that this is not what i want people to come away with like paul trade and what a fucking badass more like this is a heartbreaking story about a guy who just like loses a lot of uh of himself in trying to fulfill this like strange prophecy and then in doing so becomes like this master of all these people here but the everything that bill move has brought to us whether that be the dialogue that he's written for his movies the way that he shoots his movies scale of movies uh zimmer and his team are fantastic here uh they're there's just a lot going on here and i haven't seen this movie like i saw it a couple times in theaters but i haven't seen it except for like clips here and there whatever my buddies are like bringing things up to me um but it is also just a movie that is it has left a feeling upon me of just devastation for the paul tradeies character especially like at the line reading that he says when he's like you know we've been into paradise it's like it's just a heartbreaking thing for me and arina you and i talked about it like in our in our nights episode for this where we're just asking like whether this movie if it stops where it stops and it never picks up like doing messiah or anything else is are you okay with it and i was like i'm fine with it because i think that you get a lot from what zendaya's character is doing uh the official expression that she has it's just like great you know this is the world i live in now but also i'm hurt but i'm also trying to get vengeance here like there's just so much complexity here um but doing part two it is uh it's it's quite the movie yeah um by number one is furious i'm at max soggin i mean who would have thunk the the things that you were just saying all also kind of apply to this movie i mean it is true absolute spectacle at the highest of degrees it's george miller at the peak of his powers at 79 years old just like making this all out mhm dystopian sci-fi epic that has when it does have action the action is spectacular um it looks amazing it sounds amazing it's i think really well acted i like the i like the writing in this movie quite a bit i keep thinking about the final scene between firiosa and dementis quite a bit because it's just really affecting to me um i i mean i don't have too much more to add beyond this movie rules i mean it just hits it's fantastic it is a another excellent chapter in the mad max franchise um we were at a point where the the odd bender dome was it and then decades later firi road comes along as like you know what what if we just redefined actions to do it forever sure and then this movie comes on it's like we're not gonna do that again but we'll still do something else that's also amazing and yeah i am just so fully on board with the fact that george miller is able to keep this thing going and keep making it amazing so uh yeah firiosa it rules my number one so far big big year for desert that desert it's a huge desert year yes oh you don't even know uh eocopitados all desert for that because dude is dude is deserts all pretty even hundreds of the beavers it's like the front year it's basically frozen desert even godzilla and kong has Godzilla they're in egypt oh my god during the appearance you guys are all over uh okay can't stop the sand that's what we're saying we're localized bleedings like in the desert for a modern movie so yeah yeah it's a dusty year guys it's a dusty year i'm not talking about Abe crying in movie theaters no no that's only happening once so that's our those are our top five of the years so far that was fun let's uh let's quickly move on to some about now feedback feedback go back go back go back this is where i go over the various questions answered our facebook page feels like i was just on a podcast we asked a number of questions the listeners they give some answers and then we think we got a question as well uh we'll just feel free to throw in any answers you might have as we go through these first question is what are some great films about trying to escape a city uh scot neo last year right to escape from new york phil perd writes the sound of music clover field clover field okay great films about trying to escape a city sound it means that's a good answer i like that mm-hmm i mean i i don't know this i might be stretching it here but in a way metropolis or in certain parts of the city yeah they got to get out yeah out from under yeah i'm also stretching but it's a minority report because basically there's too much technology in the city they got to get out and they go find the scientists in the berbs hey yes everybody runs everybody runs what do you do errand shoot me i don't hear red ball sirens are blaring i was hoping that you were gonna do siren noises okay no no um next question we have here what are some examples of people acting terrified on film phil perd has the people being sacrificed at apocalypto that's a good answer uh chris clearly that has tippy hedgerin and roar it's also a good answer and brandon peters oh no brandon peters writes kylo red was a frightened little bitch when he saw he was confronted by the one true supreme war of the sith emperor palpatine and star wars the rise of skywalker i love i i never know when ryan is gonna write it about red sky marker i love whenever he does i think so i i remember i very much try to copy these without looking at any of them so rise to be like oh my gosh people acting terrified on phil uh exorcist just just just the reactions to all the horrible things that uh regan's doing to herself yeah nice you're just like oh a terrible green soup on me i will say maryland berns and the texas chains i massacre there is a whole person chasing her with a chainsaw yes that's scary yeah um i'm gonna say tonica let in her sanitary a lot of good facial a lot of good facial like ah yeah that's a good answer have you seen her wonder husband's on fire all right next question here is what's your favorite jimon hon superformance mark off my friend's show writes in america and never back down i wish he was my mma coach back when i was draining chris verhittle writes amistad the legend of tarsan beauty shop and fury seven phil perd has easily gladiator for me chris clulin writes amistad how to train dragon part two and the lead diamond uh in america is generally my choice here because i think it's just a really great performance and he was nominated for it um i i don't know what the like general perception is on blood diamond i really like that movie i i think it's the effective like adventure drama and the ticaprio and jimah i mean who doesn't want to see the caprio and jimon together that's fun good point but i like that really quite that edwards wick film uh you know i i i gotta say rebel moon um i know i'm joking uh i got a big boy i didn't know that he was a fan no uh you know i i'm gonna go with blood diamond also but i i do i did really like him and i i think this is a bit of underrated movie but i did really like him and now i'm just uh well he's he's great in that movie sure i did i i i'm not against that movie i think of it he's it's it's like mid-level Spielberg for me but i mean he like he burst on the scene with that film and for good reason he's really good in it but blood that i'm gonna say was blood diamond the one he got his oscar nomination for he got his second nomination for that because he got almost pretty in america and then he got one for blood diamond oh okay all right because he and leo did leo got her back there and he got for supporting him yeah that's that's just a it's a good movie like i i have a watch it a while maybe i maybe i hate it now i don't know but i like that but we should watch it i mean i i i haven't seen it a bit myself but i remember it being really good and may have argued been one of the best films of that year i i certainly liked it a lot that year i don't look at what's that 2005 i think so yeah i think we'll get it anyway six now i need to know next question we have here what films feature the most chaotic depiction of new york city millipur has the seach the siege with denzel and nothing and peruse willis that's right yeah i mean that's that's a pretty that's like a movie ahead of its time with a lot of the things that they're doing it is yeah 2006 one by the way um yeah the siege it's it was 1999 was it 98 98 but yeah a lot of things but with also Edward's wick by the way there you go yeah it's all over the place zwick the zwickinator exactly chaotic New York movies i already said clover field uh oh yeah got so 98 yeah roderick and uh uh run around with uh and re no yeah that's that's right dream team that that's a lot of fish uh ghost ghost busters and ghost busters too a lot of ghosts a lot of ghosts yeah the you know EPA yeah i shut them down and you know at one point a giant marshmallow of a man and the statue already walked through main street their time's different movies so yeah not at the same time which would be terrifying but it's like that seems like pretty chaotic to be yeah i'm gonna add in uh pizza papa duck straight yeah just exactly the pizza papa part guys you know he's just punching himself for two weeks pizza papa yeah you're just walking by trying to get a pizza papa and just like this guy's like slapping himself um that i should hear what a four hero pizza papa yes why else would you have him as a as a as a singer if you're not gonna put him in the movie if deadpool wolverry wants to make 15 extra billion dollars he should have pizza papa yeah i mean the studio is listed in our show they should have us jump on bunch of what well tag scott meadows it in this and then they'll listen yeah that's right uh the next question here what are some what are what other alien innovation films would you want to see a sequel or a prequel to filled for it as post-apocalyptic aftermath sequel to the thing could be very interesting hmm so so a phillips world the thing wins and then takes over the world what a terrible what a terrible future that yeah everyone's just like sprouting like this giant disgusting like silly armworm things out of their face and that's just and that's just because they want to wave to their friend hey it's me it's me bob it's very monster oh you're in you're in carl skin today yeah you know just mixing it up so you know it was depressing i would have answered before it actually happened i would have answered independence day before it happened it was like all the alien or independence a risk resurgence yeah okay yeah i mean which uh i would like to i would like to pretend it didn't happen yeah i forget it's not a good movie i will say the things that it does do with the what would the world be like if this happened and hairs out is now that stuff i do like they use the technology i like that they actually do something with that i just wish the movie you know didn't suck balls like that was that's the problem you know it's so hilarious that me and my brother used to always talk about well you know uh if you think about it give it what the president does in the independence day movie man you know that that dude must have been so he he shouldn't he was on top of the world he must have wanted reelection in a landslide and then he gets the sequel and and the dude has just lost his mind yeah you know what i to to answer the question more seriously i am a big fan of the blob so it would be interesting to see if someone tried to do like a sort of like a modern day um sequel now what do you call them these days a week we'll allow a week we'll yeah like a sequel or a week we'll you know what the blob reheated yeah get out of an article like what's this what's this giant shit that's frozen here well we should fight out the movie yeah the movie opens up with like a father promising his daughter he'd bring her he'd bring her back something and then it's the blob and then he's just like he's like oh let me turn this thing off it's like it's like it's it's like bliss yeah it's it's glistening pink hue my daughter would love this they gotta go he chips it off you know then he goes back yeah and then let next thing you know it's just taking over the cities oh I mean it is and then the cops don't believe them and the thing is these damn kids what blob at the end there he has to he's the last survivor he's trying to kill it but it's already eaten his daughter it's ready and so he uses the daughter's voice to try manipulate him but he still blows that up the TNT or however however the blob gets killed frozen sure um damn these are good answers i know uh sequel pretty cool uh innovation movie it's gotta be district nine i do want district ten i do really would like to say i don't ever know yeah i think it's been such a long time that i think it's better for us to just envision what happens to tell me but i i feel i feel like blob camp said that he plans to do a fun because he really i believe that was i mean that's the kind of thing you say during a press run when you have a new movie out so you know i can i can take a grain of salt but it's been like a it's been an amount of time where it would realistically they could do like a by default legacy sequel now where charl took cobbly's back and they do the actual follow-up i just want to know vickis turns back into you and he loves you man we all we all want vickis to be all right yeah all right next question what movie alien do you think you could take it a fight which one is the most dangerous mark off my rights alpha would be an easy fight i'd say i'd stay away from the fire in the sky aliens uh that's a good one michael lee friend of the show writes i'm fairly sure that i could take on those aliens that pilot humans in m_i_b_ the small guys yeah the yeah uh but the guardians yeah exactly they're kidding but the ones that are the most dangerous are xenomorphs hmm he'll appear in rights and it can slave master and the phantom menace would be easy picket so wato hey who you gonna fight me um the aliens and edge of tomorrow we're so fast you'd have a hard time getting away from them true unless unless they throw up in your mouth and you just learn how to kill them yeah that that extremely unlikely scenario where they throw up in your mouth with their ass in blood so aliens you can take it a fight at which of the most dangerous mmm well first i'll tell you yeah go go go oh i was just uh i i'll tell you what i know i can kick et's ass i know he comes in peace it's well he's a biologist lewis well i'm just saying that uh i'm answering the question honestly i know i can pick his ass in terms of most dangerous it's got to be xenomorphs i i actually did a one of those uh on a basis at uh universal uh here down in Orlando and they were doing the alien versus predator thing and even though it was an animatronic i will tell you having a xenomorph in your face it's not a pleasant experience uh huh sounds spooky but that tracks um alien i can take it a fight i'm gonna go out on a limb there's a pun there but you only get it after i say what it is i'm gonna go out on a limb and say i don't think there's id4 aliens with that stuff i feel like they have like two legs and a big bulky body and that's just their outer shell you can trip that thing so quickly i don't care how many tentacles it has will smith punch is one of the face i've not seen exactly and like hours and then the inside it's just got a little guy and there's like that guy you could just want break over your knee yeah but like you know if it wakes up it's gonna like make your head explode like it's blood shots why i'm gonna where i'm gonna wear a magneto helmet i'll be fine i'm gonna get what am i magneto oh what are the what i'm gonna go to home depot i'm gonna i'm gonna ask i'm gonna say hey where's your magneto helmet section and they'll see like aisle 16a and i'll be like fine cool and here's a coming red he's like yes it does something thank you i'm ready and i'll put that on and then i'll trip the alien watch it in the face split open his little thing take the little guy out break it over my knee invasion avoided so there welcome to earth alien that i that i i think is the most dangerous i mean yeah xenomorphs i get it but if it's just me standing on the ground pin good door is gonna fuck me up like what there's no quick giant it's like what what what's what's my defense what am i gonna do magneto helmet's not gonna save you from that one so i should not the one that you got from home depot yeah if i got a lowest one baby you'll see well that's my i think i think the alien that you can take on is uh the alien from um uh asteroid city you know me it looks like uh he looks like a guy that you could easily just like trip with like a special group size i mean he's got the reach six foot seven i mean it's jeff global size so yes so yeah um and then i mean xenomorph is tough because you know acid blood and everything uh honestly like are they aliens i don't know if they're creatures what but all those uh all those guys from um uh which would call it uh who are all the gizmo guys the gremlins yeah the gremlins guys bog wise are they aliens well i'll put it this way it's not it's not stated where they're from okay or do i nor do i need a sequel or people tell it be with everyone because because they're small and they're fast and they can multiply like crazy it's hard it's it becomes a question of like would you take on one giant sized horse sized duck or million you know duck sized horses or whatever you know it's like death by millen peregrads is not a good thing you know how i know i was into horror like early on when i was young there's that shot in gremlins where like stripe has already fallen in the pool right yeah and when you're watching that and if i didn't say it later yeah but the pool's bubbling and like just watching that at home you just like oh shit this is where things are gonna get real yeah like martin loren style things shit just got real yeah and then like the next shot is like stripe walks over the hill and then like all of them walk over the hill and when i was a kid i just thought this is so cool oh it's my reaction to that it wasn't like oh no that poor town what's dick miller gonna do i was just like this is the coolest thing look at all these little monsters now granted they did terrible things and you know terrible things i'm glad they're all i'm glad they're all burning in hell right now but at the time i was like maybe they're not aliens but they were made in somehow so i'm sure there's fan fiction out there that explains exactly where magu i come from exactly well there you go uh the next question here is um you're trapped in the city and plan to go to one place that will make you happy where is that phil perd writes my living room that's nice i mean i guess the movie here because my heads are here that's what i'm thinking that's nice yeah like you know when it all ends you'll just be like let's give me like a program myself yeah i you know just just because i'm i'm it's not impossible for me to get there so i would say uh i'd like to check out uh this new world would be empty for once there you go yeah empty but all the seats are like filled with like you know patrons blood okay yes but i will i won't need fast pass so this is true this is true yeah you just get a raincoat yeah becomes a substantive episode where everyone's dead and homework's like still honky on the horns now away jerkass yeah um i i think i'd choose like some botanical gardener or something that's like yeah let me just be a Zen here we're like before i get killed by these uh aliens okay nerd that's good i like that i like the idea i like your movie theater example there too though um all right we got one electricity cell and can you recline the seats well it's just to sue by all the amenities are available to get it okay break popcorn for some reason yes fresh fresh fresh fresh raisinets therapeutic in this dance yeah like a truck just dropped off a new batch yeah and in the world then it got it grandma's the new batch um all right we got one question here this is from gary softford friend of the show happy belita birthday um he writes when is del Toro frankenstein interview on out now so i guess he's asking are we going to have a friend of the show gerbil del Toro who provides our lovely intro um at some during halloween especially um what his frankenstein movie comes out are we going to have an interview with gerbil del Toro i'm not going to say no to this question i feel who knows i've had some interactions with gerbil over the years maybe something could happen yeah exactly you know what if we just say it out loud the universe sometimes provides yeah mr del Toro would you please be on our show for a guess spot yeah that'd be you know that'd be cool of course yes active on twitter so he 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