Guru Viking Podcast
Ep210: Science of Lucid Dream Healing - Charlie Morley & Dr Garret Yount
In this episode I am joined by Charlie Morley, lucid dreaming teacher and best-selling author, and Dr Garret Yount, a scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Charlie and Garret discuss their recent pilot study entitled ‘Decreased Posttraumatic Stress Disorder Symptoms Following a Lucid Dream Healing Workshop’, published in the May 2023 issue of Traumatology, and explain why their initial results may show great promise for the use of lucid dreaming techniques in the treatment of PTSD.
Charlie and Garret lay out the study’s design, the participant recruitment process, the lucid dreaming techniques taught to the subjects, and reveal what they consider to be the most effective techniques for relief of PTSD symptoms.
Garret responds to criticisms of the study design, including that limiting the participants to individuals with prior experience of lucid dreaming may have biased the findings, and that the significant psychotherapeutic aspects of the intervention prevent any conclusions being drawn about the efficacy of the lucid dreaming component for PTSD relief.
Charlie also discusses how his religious beliefs as a Buddhist influence his work, and reflects on the flowering of the altruistic motivation known as Bodhicitta in his own life and practice.
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Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep210-science-of-lucid-dream-healing-charlie-morley-dr-garret-yount
Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.
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Topics Include:
00:00 - Intro
01:29 - How the study came to be
06:12 - Securing private funding
08:22 - Charlie’s predictions for the study
10:23 - Anxiety about possible lack of lucid dreams in subjects
17:02 - Garret explains the results of the study
20:05 - The study design and participant selection
26:14 - Charlie’s workshop design
31:21 - Dream planning and Charlie reads participant reports
38:53 - Charlie praises the scientists
40:14 - Saliva sample collection
43:33 - Follow up study with a control group
48:13 - Was the participant selection biased?
54:15 - Why the psychological aspects of the workshop prevent conclusions being drawn about lucid dreaming efficacy
01:00:23 - Charlie on Keith McKenzie
01:01:33 - Hope vs false hope
01:05:35 - The importance of reframing nightmares
01:10:23 - Has the follow-up study broadened the selection criteria?
01:12:28 - Charlie’s speculations about the mechanism of effect
01:18:16 - Charlie’s altruistic motivation
01:22:05 - The flowering of Charlie’s bodhicitta
01:27:24 - Religious doubts and struggles in practice
01:30:33 - Charlie assesses his own religious practice
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Previous episode with Charlie Morley:
- https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/guru-viking-interviews-ep2-charlie-morley-2
- https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep148-wake-up-to-sleep-charlie-morley-2
To read the paper:
- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371051446_Decreased_posttraumatic_stress_disorder_symptoms_following_a_lucid_dream_healing_workshop
To find out more about Charlie and Garret, visit:
- http://www.charliemorley.com/
- https://noetic.org/profile/garret-yount/
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For more interviews, videos, and more visit:
- https://www.guruviking.com
Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James
- Broadcast on:
- 14 Jul 2023
In this episode I am joined by Charlie Morley, lucid dreaming teacher and best-selling author, and Dr Garret Yount, a scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
Charlie and Garret discuss their recent pilot study entitled ‘Decreased Posttraumatic Stress Disorder Symptoms Following a Lucid Dream Healing Workshop’, published in the May 2023 issue of Traumatology, and explain why their initial results may show great promise for the use of lucid dreaming techniques in the treatment of PTSD.
Charlie and Garret lay out the study’s design, the participant recruitment process, the lucid dreaming techniques taught to the subjects, and reveal what they consider to be the most effective techniques for relief of PTSD symptoms.
Garret responds to criticisms of the study design, including that limiting the participants to individuals with prior experience of lucid dreaming may have biased the findings, and that the significant psychotherapeutic aspects of the intervention prevent any conclusions being drawn about the efficacy of the lucid dreaming component for PTSD relief.
Charlie also discusses how his religious beliefs as a Buddhist influence his work, and reflects on the flowering of the altruistic motivation known as Bodhicitta in his own life and practice.
…
Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep210-science-of-lucid-dream-healing-charlie-morley-dr-garret-yount
Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.
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Topics Include:
00:00 - Intro
01:29 - How the study came to be
06:12 - Securing private funding
08:22 - Charlie’s predictions for the study
10:23 - Anxiety about possible lack of lucid dreams in subjects
17:02 - Garret explains the results of the study
20:05 - The study design and participant selection
26:14 - Charlie’s workshop design
31:21 - Dream planning and Charlie reads participant reports
38:53 - Charlie praises the scientists
40:14 - Saliva sample collection
43:33 - Follow up study with a control group
48:13 - Was the participant selection biased?
54:15 - Why the psychological aspects of the workshop prevent conclusions being drawn about lucid dreaming efficacy
01:00:23 - Charlie on Keith McKenzie
01:01:33 - Hope vs false hope
01:05:35 - The importance of reframing nightmares
01:10:23 - Has the follow-up study broadened the selection criteria?
01:12:28 - Charlie’s speculations about the mechanism of effect
01:18:16 - Charlie’s altruistic motivation
01:22:05 - The flowering of Charlie’s bodhicitta
01:27:24 - Religious doubts and struggles in practice
01:30:33 - Charlie assesses his own religious practice
…
Previous episode with Charlie Morley:
- https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/guru-viking-interviews-ep2-charlie-morley-2
- https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep148-wake-up-to-sleep-charlie-morley-2
To read the paper:
- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371051446_Decreased_posttraumatic_stress_disorder_symptoms_following_a_lucid_dream_healing_workshop
To find out more about Charlie and Garret, visit:
- http://www.charliemorley.com/
- https://noetic.org/profile/garret-yount/
…
For more interviews, videos, and more visit:
- https://www.guruviking.com
Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James