In this episode special guest Dr Jud Brewer - pioneering psychiatrist, neurosciencist, and New York Times best-selling author - joins the ongoing conversation featuring:

- Shinzen Young, meditation teacher and neuroscience research consultant

• Chelsey Fasano, a Columbia University neuroscience student 
- Dr Jay Sanguinetti, Assistant Director for the Center for Consciousness Studies and Research Professor at the University of New Mexico

In this episode Dr Brewer gives a fascinating summary of his ground-breaking work, and shares his wildest secret dream for the future of neuroscience and humanity at large.

Dr Sanguinetti and Shinzen reveal the latest science in their lab, and dialogue with Dr Brewer about pseudo-arhats and the power of conditioning.

The panel also map the 4 noble truths using the latest neuroscience theories, debate the pros and cons of including subjective experience in serious research, explore how to translate academic language into common parlance, and raise serious concerns about healthy integration of altered states.

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Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/ep128-pioneering-science-dr-jud-brewer-shinzen-young-chelsey-fasano-dr-sanguinetti/

Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.
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00:00 - Intro 01:29 - Dr Jud Brewer summarises his pioneering work 18:41 - Jud’s vision for the future of the field 29:19 - Hope for the future 37:31 - Shinzen’s meta comment 40:08 - Jud’s wildest secret dream 44:58 - Dr Jay Sanguinetti tells the story of his work
49:51 - Jay’s collaboration with Shinzen Young 54:11 - Jay and Shinzen go deeper into the science 59:24 - Mapping the 4 Noble Truths with the neuroscience 01:06:19 - Pseudo-arhats and interruption of conditioning
01:08:13 - Getting unstuck and inducing equanimity 01:13:24 - Exciting developments at SEMA Lab 01:16:44 - Discussing different areas of the PCC 01:20:19 - Pros and cons of integrating first person subjective experience 01:24:54 - Next steps at SEMA Lab and integrating mindfulness training 01:26:19 - Jud reflects on the pragmatic public health implications 01:28:59 - Crucial considerations around integrating altered states 01:34:32 - Jud’s latest work on integration 01:36:48 - Shinzen on academic vs street language 01:44:41 - Chelsey’s reflections

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Previous episodes in this series:

• https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlkzlKFgdknxjhwG5wmXRVfrkeGczVPVI 
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To find out more about Dr Brewer, visit:

• https://drjud.com/
• https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Judson-Brewer

To find out more about Shinzen, visit:

• https://www.guruviking.com/ep37-shinzen-young-pandemic-edition-guru-viking-podcast/
• www.shinzen.org

To find out more about Chelsey, visit:

• www.chelseyfasano.com

To find our more about Dr Sanguinetti, visit:

• https://www.guruviking.com/ep102-dr-jay-sanguinetti-cults-science-the-dalai-lama/
• https://www.jaysanguinetti.com/

For more interviews, videos, and more visit:

• www.guruviking.com

Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

Broadcast on:

31 Dec 2021

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