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Bryan Comer from Tobias and Comer Law Google Monopoly - John Weischmann CRO from Mobile Police Department on a Blood drive - Midday Mobile - Thursday 8-08-24
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I've got to start coming up with a cooler intro line than, yeah, I don't think it's gonna, I don't think it's gonna work for very long. I think Sean says, here we go. Yeah, I'm gonna work on that. Okay, next time, I'm not gonna go. Yeah, welcome in. And so the way we do it in mid days when we're filling for Sean, Dalton takes the lead role, because I like that, because I'm kind of like, and, you know, he's got a knee. Like, if he wants to drag me into a conversation, I'm like being interviewed. You know, I'm not really the star that, well, I'm not the star of the show in the morning either, but you know what I'm saying? It's almost like a secondary role, and it's, I like this. It's peaceful, you know, I'm in the morning. Yeah. Someone the text on her accusing of us, us of day drinking, which has not occurred. I'm day drinking a monster right now. It tells you a lot about what this broadcast sounds like on the other end. I guess so, so starting the second hour here, and I'm so glad that Brian Comer with Tobias and Comer Law reached out and said, Hey, you know, that big decision earlier this week that called Google, a monopoly, I'd love to come on and discuss that. And I said, please do, because all of this goes over my head. And there's been, you know, discussions about Google being the predominant search engine, among other things for years. But this week, a federal judge ruled Google acted to illegally maintain a monopoly in online search. The case was the first of several antitrust lawsuits the US government has brought against not just Google, but some of the other leading tech companies ruling marks a major victory for the government's efforts to rein in big tech. And they the Justice Department actually brought this lawsuit about four years ago. So that's how long this has taken to get Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Justice Department. And they maintained that Google's an illegal search engine monopoly allegedly by paying web browsers and device manufacturers like Apple to be featured as their default search engine. I thought this was the most ironic thing. The judge is Judge Meta. So Judge Meta ruling that Google is a monopoly. Brian, thanks for joining us today. Thanks for having me. So this pretty big ruling. I mean, this could have more than just a ripple effect down the line. This could completely change the internet the way we see it right now. Yeah, it really can. And you know, yo, it was funny. I were talking about segues earlier and then going from the game monopoly. I mean, so here, you know, the way that this is going to work. I mean, it centers on Google's use of being the default browser or the default, excuse me, the default search engine for all these browsers. And so that's where we really they really ran into problems was was the things that they were doing to unfairly gain that advantage. And it all comes down to getting the data from people that they can then use to monetize. And so that's whether it be paper clicks or searches or then to package that up and then sell to others, they're collecting it through this being the search king. Yeah. And the search king, what percentage you laid it out for me early, how much in this ruling did they say Google controls the quote unquote search market? Yeah. So they're the default search engine for 90% of computers and 95% of devices. And so that's Apple, Samsung, I mean, across all these lines, whether it's a Mac, whether it's a PC, I mean, and the numbers are pretty staggering. Basically, Apple paid in 2022, Apple paid $20 billion with a B or excuse me, Google paid Apple $20 billion so that they would be the default search engine on Apple devices, like my Mac, iMac or iPad. Yeah, that's a pretty simple way to dominate the market. You see, if you give me a second, what I'll do is I'll write you a check. And then next year, I'll write another check, and they'll all be the same incredible amount. That's how they did it. Yeah, basically. And so this actually the deal has been in place with Apple since 2002. Wow. They got in early. They did. I mean, and you kind of really touch on a central point there, you have these market participants like Apple, like Google, who have kind of come up about the same time society has with the internet. And so it becomes ubiquitous to where, okay, Google is Google is the search engine. What are you going to do? I'm going to go Google that, you know, and that's the, but the key is, and what this ruling centers on is a violation of something called the Sherman Act, which goes all the way back to the 1890s. And I dug into it getting ready for today. And it's really kind of fascinating. I know everybody's looking forward to a good history lesson about the 1890s politics, but it was actually General Sherman's brother was a senator, a Republican senator from Ohio. And it was all about free market and competition. And that's the whole point of the Sherman Act. Essentially it, according to the Federal Trade Commission, is a comprehensive charter of economic liberty aimed at preserving free and unfettered competition as the rule of trade. Hey, ask one question real quick. Sure. What was the original dispute? Because now it's Google and this and all back then, what were they? What were they unhappy about? Well, so he was looking at unfair business practices that were really coming in the wake of the Civil War. And so, you know, various, there wasn't a say one one. No, he spewed. Right. Yeah. So, so you can't have a law that's targeted to a specific entity. Like they couldn't write a law today that then bans Google from, is directed to Google. That was a bill of a tanger if my civics is right. But, but so that his whole thing was the free trade, the free market capitalism, and to make sure that ultimately we as the consumers are getting a fair shot. And so really, there's two main aspects to the Sherman Act. You cannot have two or more market participants conspired together to unfairly prohibit trade. So, that's things like if Apple and Windows got together and said, we're going to charge X dollars per thing that we're selling, whatever it is. And we're just going to artificially set the price. That that could be that's that's a per se violation. And on its face violation, you can't conspire together. And then the other thing is exactly what we have here, where a company gets so large and so powerful, it's not common. It's not subject to common competitive pressures in the market that other market participants would be. And so, like you said, right in the check, that's what the other search engines can't do. Right. Right. And so, maybe a Microsoft can't write one that big. Right. Right. And so, Apple will say, yeah, sure, we'll take your $20 billion and then we'll set that as the default browser or as the default search engine. But, you know, if Brian Comer's search browser or whatever comes in, I can't do that. So, now I'm prohibited from even entering the market. And so, then the trickle down effect that that has to consumers is humongous. It just keeps growing and growing and growing. Absolutely. Talking with Brian Comer with Tobias and Comer Law. And I guess the judge in this instance, he had to kind of specifically define which part of Google is a monopoly because it is such a massive company. You know, they have their hands and everything. But this is specifically regarding the search text engine. And the way you put it, general search text advertising, I think that plays into this as well, right? Yes. If someone wants to advertise on Google, or if they just want to advertise and have their business put in the front of people who are searching for certain businesses, they have to play along with Google or they're not going to get the same kind of hits that other people will. That's right. And anybody who has any at all interest in Google searching, you know, where we as consumers trying to find the things that we want, but then also we as business owners who want to then be relevant. If you're not on page one of Google and play by, you know, their rules and subject to the infamous algorithm, then you're not going to be relevant. And so then that's going to also force people away. And also, in terms of like, whether it be a car dealership or a law firm or a bakery or whomever, if I want to go advertise on Google, they're going to set the price on the paper, click, or whatever, and you just have to pay it. And there's people out there and I, you know, think about this as well. Well, there's other search engines out there. Why don't they just make better search engines or, I mean, time and time again, I've tried to switch. I've tried to go Bing. I've tried to go duck, duck, go. And in the morning, when we're trying to find something and find it fast, I mean, you still can't beat Google. I mean, maybe they've become so great because they're a behemoth, but can't these other companies just get better? Yeah, well, so that's the whole point of capitalism, right? So you want to encourage this market participation so that we end up with a better product. And so them having the monopoly isn't illegal. Them charging what they want to charge isn't illegal. It's using the unfair practices to get there. And so if, you know, like I said, I wanted to go create my own web browser or search engine to be able to even enter that platform where 95% of the market is completely under lock and key. I can't. I can't. You know, we think Google is so great, but maybe Google is Alabama playing in the CYO. Maybe they run everybody off the road because everybody else is ill-equipped to compete or, well, maybe if Google was challenged in some way, Google would actually be better than we know them to be today. Yeah, and see, and that's also the point. So, you know, by paying Apple all this money, now Apple isn't entering into the marketplace on this product. They're out. Yeah, exactly. And so they're going to take the money and set them as the default. Well, maybe they can make one that's even better or we were talking before we went on the air. You know, maybe there's different niches of browsers that can come out there such as one that might be catered to children, like in a wholesome, right? Properly. Yeah, so where you know, they're not looking up, you know, something you don't want to see. Exactly. And that's just like one of the ideas that's come up from this. But I mean, the spin-offs from this, the ripple effect from it could be huge. And so what's going to happen now, you know, Google says they're going to appeal as most people do when they lose. But so then that would go to the Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, which is just below the US Supreme Court. But if they survive that, then they'll enter into what's called the damages phase or the second phase of the trial, rather, where the judge then says, okay, what are we going to do? How are we going to kind of unwind this anti-competitive behavior? And I guess that could be as simple as saying, hey, you can no longer pay these other companies to make you the default search engine. So not completely, you know, breaking them up like we've seen monopolies done before, but just saying, hey, the unfair practice is cut it out. Could it be as simple as that? It could be. And that's the thing that a lot of ink will be spilled discussing is exactly how is it that that's going to happen. Because now you take somebody like Apple, okay, are they going to enter the market, or are they going to say, okay, we'll now court Microsoft and we'll use Bing or we'll use some startup that nobody's ever heard of that then becomes the next Google. But that's the whole thing is, you know, they actually, Google was so efficient and so good at what they did. Part of the reason being that they're collecting all this data from people and using it and monetizing it and but they're doing it in such an efficient way that they get to be this behemoth. Well, others can't even get their foot on foot in the door to that because they're just they're they're so big. Yeah. And so this could stretch on for a long time. I mean, you go appeal another trial. It feels like every time we see a big decision, whether it's a state fighting against something or do you say, oh, it's just going to make its way to the Supreme Court. So could this eventually be something like that? Or will this probably just stick in Judge Mehta's court until it's swept up? So, well, so the appellate process, they they have the ability to appeal. And since the court this came out of is a is a US District Court for the District of Columbia. So in DC, the next step up is the intermediate, the Court of Appeal, the United States Court of Appeal for the DC Circuit. And it's whereas Alabama, we're in something called the 11th Circuit, which is Alabama, Florida and Georgia. This DC Circuit only hears cases from that where Merrick Garland was when he was on the Court of Appeals. And so then if after what happens there, the US Supreme Court could take it as one of its 80 something cases it takes or it could pass on it. Interesting. And you talk about the ripple effect this may have. I'm thinking about the butterfly effect that some of the decisions made in the past using the Sherman Act. I think you said Microsoft was hit by something like this. What this world would look like if some of those decisions hadn't been made. It's fascinating to think about. And it's the exact same this the Sherman Act is the same vehicle that they broke up standard oil with. It's the same vehicle that the bells from telephones got busted up. Microsoft with Internet Explorer being required to be on these devices. And so yeah, I mean the butterfly effect for sure. And then, you know, what companies are going to come up out of this. And I think the whole point of this and the reason that you're getting positive responses from both sides of the aisle is you properly pointed out the Trump administration brought it the Biden administration continue to pursue it. Is it does benefit the consumer? Because when we do have this free market, when we do have competition, prices go down, quality goes up. You know, it's funny. I would I've been watching entire SEC games from years ago. And all the sponsors are corporations that have been broken up. I don't know if they're all graduates of the Sherman Act or not. But it's like whatever happened to them. Yeah. Brian Comer with Tobias and Comer Law fascinating stuff. You really appreciate you kind of breaking this down for a couple of simpletons like Dan myself. Yeah. No offense. Not me dragging that boat down. But I mean, just look at me. So folks can check you out online. Got a great website. Tobiascomerlaw.com. That's what you recommend. That's right. Yeah. And I always can find us there or if you ever have a case, one of free consultation, you can just call us two five one four three two five zero zero one. Is that easy? Good stuff there. And going to continue following this case. Yeah, this is great. You know, they're not the only big tech monopoly in some different spheres. So maybe down the line, we'll see this with Apple or something like that. Yeah, there are pending cases in the same vein, same kind of claims against Apple against what's used to be Facebook, Meta, and Amazon. Wow. Stay tuned. Well, we know how Judge Meta is going to roll on the Meta. Coming back more midday mobile on the way. This is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk one oh six five. All right. Midday mobile continues right here on FM talk one oh six five. I'm Dalton Orwig, he's Dan Brennan and we're on it midday rather than we are. We are. I think we are still expected to be in tomorrow morning though. So just keep that in mind. What did you do? Well, we will be back on tomorrow morning at six a.m. We love it. Great conversation with Brian Comer there from Tobias and Comer Law kind of laying out this Google monopoly story. Michael said I just jumped into my truck and got confused. I thought for a split second I somehow missed the rest of the day and it was already morning. No, Michael, don't worry. Still a lot of Thursday to go for you Friday right around the corner though. Irish Indian this isn't an encore of a morning show is it? It is not. But I'm glad we woke everyone up by being on the air here at noon shock to shock their senses a little bit. Yeah, for sure. So you know the move to paper straws everyone had the plastic straws and then Ciliol liberal California went paper right they were the first and then worked its way in all corners of the country. I've never you know I've never really had as big a problem with paper straws. I guess I just drink my drinks too fast and they don't get all soggy like some people did. But now there's apparently a problem with paper straws. Okay, what is it? I'm not sure where we go from here. Initially many saw paper straws as a solution to the plastic straw problem. But they have their own sets of issues. They break down easily. Okay, we know that making them difficult to use. So manufacturers tried to address them by making them stronger. However, this also makes them harder to recycle. So they're trying to make the paper plastic basically. Yeah, work like the plastic does. As a result, they haven't gained widespread acceptance, they say. Recently, researchers have discovered that they have an even more serious issue with paper straws. They're toxic. That's that's the team of researchers from Belgium has published a study on a paper. It's the journal food additives and contaminants. Now I haven't gotten this latest issue of food additives and contaminants. But yeah, I mean, if you remember the cover from April with stunning. Yeah, awfully vulgar too. They say it's not good news. After analyzing 39 brands of straws made of various materials such as plastic, paper, glass, stainless steel and bamboo. The team found that paper straws contain the most PFAS, the PFAS, which we've talked a lot about. Yeah, especially last year, I think was a bigger discussion around here with the PFAS in the water. So it turns out the paper straws have more PFAS or PFAS plastic straw than the plastic straws. If you don't know what these PFAS is are forever chemicals because they just don't go away, right? I think they said fire extinguishing foam is a major polluter in a lot of different bodies of water. They can lead to health problems such as liver damage, thyroid disease, obesity, fertility issues and cancer. So while these substances pose a very low individual risk on a large scale, they can be an additional exposure factor. So now they're saying, we got rid of a lot of the plastic straws. We've gone paper, we're saving the environment. Oops, the paper straws are actually worse for the environment than the plastic straws. Now they're saying, let's go to stainless steel straws for everybody. Nine dollars each. What would a stainless steel, how do you manufacture that? Yeah. What is the cost on one stainless steel straw? Or is everyone going to have to just carry around their own straw from restaurant to restaurant? I guess stainless steel straw would be a forever straw, right? And I think you can use it as a weapon too if it comes down to it. So plastic straws are out. Paper straws are too. Now it's off to the stainless steel. More mid-day mobile on the way. You're listening to mid-day mobile with Sean Sullivan on FMTalk 1065. 134 FMTalk 1065 in mid-day mobile. The morning guys, Dalton Norway and Dan Brennan in for Sean Sullivan today. And CB Carl, now that paper straws are bad for you, apparently. Think of all those people who just felt like they were the best person in the world. I'm drinking out of a paper straw. You're the one ruining the environment. Turns out yours is apparently worse than even the plastic straws. It's an amazing story. So they're moving on to saying stainless steel would be the best, but CB Carl brings up a great point. You should imagine how hot a stainless steel straw would get today. You leave your drink in the vehicle, you get out there. Oh, I'm going to take a sip of this. Oh my God, that is incredibly hot. That would well be on just that. Like, oh my God, we're talking lawsuits, which you wrap your lips around a hot stainless steel straw. In August in Mobile, Alabama, than everyone would know. What's with the lips, dude? What happened to you? Monty says, everyone should drink their beverage through a quarter inch rubber hose, might want to opt for the five sixteenths if you're taking in a shake or malt. So we've got a great audience here figuring things out. After 430 every day, I drink all of my beverages out of a beer bottle. Those are still great for the environment, I believe, especially if you recycle. And then Ben, thank you. I was wondering the cost on these things. He found a four pack on Amazon of reusable metal straws for the low, low price of $10. So tack that on to your Starbucks Frappuccino, where they start moving the stainless steels in. Or did you BYOS bring your own straw? You might have to. That's the next move. Long time printed the station here to talk about a very important event that's coming up next week. And that is John Weishman with MPD and blood drive that's coming up. And not just any blood drive. You said this is an emergency blood drive, John. Yes, really, the convergence of a number of factors have caused the local chapter of the life south to come to the police department a couple of days ago and say, we really need to, you know, do something now rather than our regular schedule between a technical glitch of things which in Mississippi and Louisiana programs is really creating problems, getting products and such that they need in the right places. But then the hurricane in Florida, though there weren't many deaths, I think the final count was four. There's a whole lot of people trying to get their lives back together, not thinking about giving blood or having injuries that do require some type of surgery. So we have really, you know, want to pitch in like the city mobile police department always likes to do things that are community services. And so next Wednesday, the 14th from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. the blood mobile will be there at 2406 government street in front of the main headquarters building. And they will be open for business that all donors will receive a recognition item, a free cholesterol screening. You must be 16 years of age or older and 110 pounds are over. I just barely got there. I wish. And if you're under 16, you got to have parental permission and you got to have a photo ID. And a real thank you is that there's going to be a $20 gift card given to each donor. Wow. Yeah. So you know, they can help restore their vitality and their sense of strength with go across the water burger and get something nice. Yeah. Unfortunately, you know, that's kind of an ever present headline is Dan and I prep for our shows in the morning. It seems like every so often it's hate. Blood supplies are way down. And I didn't really even think about this time of year. And well, you know, summer, probably more kids injuries during summer. I don't know. I just made it up off top of my head, but hurricane season and natural disasters. And how, you know, even if it's not a death, there's injuries that arise from that. So because of that storm and maybe more potential storms on the way, what's already a crucial lack of blood could become even worse problem. Yes, sir. There's a, you know, all types of potential for people to have injuries. As you say, if we have a hurricane coming, they're going to get up on a ladder and try to do something may fall off the ladder and hurt. But this summer month is always a depressed period because of people's activities. They don't go away. They don't want to give blood. Think of that may take away some of their energy enjoyment for a vacation plan or whatever. But, you know, the need for blood's air because there's a very limited life on the blood. I'm not exactly sure. But I think it's four or five days, you know, and it needs to be used. So there's a constant need. And that's the only thing that gives a little bit of support to these critical periods is that the elective surgery can be held off. But you've got so many other things. I mean, you know, we have on 65, just like yesterday again. To terrible action. Yeah. And you know, we have just just needs in the community. And so you can't really think that there's ever enough because I don't think there ever has been enough. But the city mobile police department is proud to host a location for that. And say donors get a $20 gift card takes generally 15 to 20, 25 minutes for the process, depends on, you know, how well your heart's pumping again. Yeah. So that's Wednesday next next week, Wednesday the 14th, nine to four, nine a.m. to four p.m. Yes. Yes, gentlemen. And the $20 gift card, big bonus there. Also, you're putting together, you know, events all the time, outreach events. I know coffee with a cop is a big one. Still got that going on. Yes. Yes. That's that's still very popular. We tried to locate ourselves around the community and divide in our locations within the five precincts so that we make it convenient for people to have access to where we're having this program. And the program is strictly a meet outreach type of program and meet and greet. We have no message. We have no program, so to speak. We just make ourselves available. Thank them for their support of the police department. We have this time of year. We don't have a lot of coffee with, but if we did do wealth, the iced tea and the lemonade and the cool water. And we always have a treat of some sort. So that's a two hour period generally in the morning, mid morning. And just drop in and yeah, we use the Facebook and the site that the police department has to let people know, but we try to do one or two a month and and we'll get back in the coffee in September May. And that's that's a good idea, you know, reaching out because that will probably be the most low stress conversation with the police officer you'll generally have. Normally, you know, if you're parked on the side of the road after an accident or if something happens to your vehicle, that's not the time you really want to meet a police officer, although you want them to come out there to save you, but meeting them in a kind of low stress environment, again, to know them as people in vice versa, them being out in the community to know more personally, the people that they're around a great idea there too. And there was an event on Monday night was it Tuesday Tuesday on the DIP that I remember tonight out, which again is a annual program in conjunction across the whole country started back in 2003 in California where 1,600 16,000 communities participate. And again, it's a chance for the police department law enforcement to interact with the neighbors, you know, again, the people they're protecting. Yeah, you know, some of them do potluck, some of them do like we did. We had a location that our dolphin out of first precinct off on Parkway and we had treats and but it's just like our coffee with a cop. There's no agenda, no speeches, no preaching. No, no, no. It's just we're here. Thank you for your support. We have coloring books for the kids. We have the badges for the kids. They love that. The kids love that. John really appreciate you coming in today and letting us know about this emergency blood drive Wednesday next week, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. $20 gift card for those you give blood. And again, you said, where is that located at the main headquarters place headquarters? 2406, a government boulevard, which is like the second stoplight west of when you cross the railroad tracks are going west on 90 highway 90. Good stuff. Thanks for coming in today. Thank you for welcoming us. We appreciate your support. Thank you, John. All right. More midday mobile on the way as Dalton Orwig and Dan Brennan guest host for Sean Sullivan. I mentioned this poll headline. Here's why students are taking a less traditional route after graduation. Try to break this down a little bit back and also get to your texts. 2513430106. This is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk 1006 five. Wrapping it up midday mobile FM talk 1006 five getting ready for that guy the Paul Finebaum show. Yeah. Is that Paul Finebaum? That was Chris Cornell. Okay. He was amazing. So is Paul Finebaum, different fields there. And but this is the time for Finebaum to shine, right? I'm headed right into football. Yeah. You know, all the pretty soon, all the talk and speculation will be over. Games will start. Some of them pretty significant from the beginning like Texas A&M and Notre Dame. Yeah. Yeah. Georgia and Clemson. You know, one thing I'm really excited for this year and I saw him on one of the might have been on YouTube, but it was a show. But Riley Leonard, who's now going to be if Notre Dame has a good year this year, that means Riley Leonard is probably playing some really good football. So he's gone from a zero star recruit and he got the offer from Duke and they kind of, oh, it's an obligation. They bump him up to three stars. Like, well, we missed that on him. Was he there? He was there with Cutcliffe, right? Yep. Yeah. Oh, maybe Cutcliffe was right out right before he got there. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe he spent a he may have spent one season with Cutcliffe and then and then the guy that that is now Texas A&M. Elko. Elko. Yeah. That's what they were talking together. They were they were talking about that game. It's A&M against Notre Dame. Elko, Riley's former coach, and now Riley's at Notre Dame. I didn't even think about that connection. They were both. They both talked about how competitive each is and they knew it was going to be like just Cutthroat. Yeah. So I'm really so pleased. I've watched Riley since he started at Fair Hopi, might have been a sophomore and he was like a string bean and he was getting cut in half on almost every run play when he would take off. And by his senior year, he had the world by a string. He was so good, but still, he didn't have the he didn't have the big schools after. Yeah. And fantastic at basketball, too. Yes. And then, of course, last year, I think that was the first game of the year for them. Destroyed Clemson. Yep. Almost single-handedly destroyed Clemson. That was one of the more amazing games I've seen. Fine, Bob, we're going to have him back on. That's the plan on Fridays. Yeah. Football Fridays with fine, Bob, his show this time of year, it's like, I think this has to be because he's seeing everyone set themselves up for failure. All these different callers who were so sure their team is going to be the team. And then, as soon as after week one, they have to call him, well, maybe do. I don't know. 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And then you can reenter into the FM talk 106 five group. If you have not played before, we have it on our website, FM talk 106 five.com either click the football picture there in the middle of the page or click pick them at the top of the page. And we have the instructions laid out there for you. It's free to play. And again, at the end of the year, one big grand prize winner, but more than anything, it's just a lot of fun to play. Textor here says with schools opening, just a thought, but how is it allowed for students to only be given 20 minutes for lunch, but employees slash employers are required 30 minutes for every eight hours worked? Maybe something to get a discussion about my daughter yesterday. And we had 11 minutes from the time she entered the lunchroom due to the distance of her class from the cafeteria. That's just cool. It's just signed Paul concerned parent. Yeah, let us know what school that is. I didn't realize that was even an issue. I would, it was a long time ago, but I wouldn't think I would think that I had at least it was like a whole period. Wasn't it? It was like the lunch period. Yeah, some other kids might have been in class in high school. And then so it was 40 minutes or so, I think, for lunch. Yeah, I think we were the same. We had pretty lengthy, we had break too break and then lunch. Yeah. And probably too many breaks for a lot of us that were goofing off. Album middle says. Album middle. Okay. Yeah, we'll look into that. Maybe that'll be something we can talk about on the morning show. I'll have to ask my kids how long their lunch was, but I probably won't get a straight answer. Well, you know, one will say shut up daddy and the other disparage you in another way. Yeah. Hey, the young one in a school uniform for the first time. I saw the picture this morning very nice. Pay pay. Pay pay going cray cray. And yeah, so that'll be an interesting this afternoon. Hey, how'd it go? So this poll that I pulled up and I think it's interesting, especially with all the student loan discussion and you see the FAFSA problem in the second year in a row, they're having major. Two months late to roll it out. And so that means on the back end, it's going to be another big problem trying to get those loans and get that money and get whatever coming to you. Yeah. And we had concerned listeners texting in about this first, the first year rollout this last year and how difficult it was to get those applications and then I think there's a big, bigger move of people looking for maybe an alternative route rather than the what's become the traditional. All right, finish high school, straight to college, get the bachelors, and then your life begins kind of as a working person. Well, there's a new poll out and they, they pulled a thousand recent graduates ages 18 and 19, also a thousand parents of public high school students. They found that only 22% felt quote very prepared for life after graduation. I'd like to know that 22 who was very prepared for life at 17, 16, 17, 18 years old, results found one in two students are taking a less traditional route than going straight to a four year college. Okay. About 20, 24% plan to immediately enter the workforce after high school. 21% are planning to just go to a two year college to start with like community college. 9% are looking to go to trade a trade school or get a certificate. 7% say they plan to take a gap year and 4% say military. So let's see you add that up. That's about 18 45. You're looking at about still 35 to 40% saying they're going to go to a four year college. But I think that number is lower than it's been in a very long time. And I think about, you know, the Baldwin prep school. And some other different programs that are being put in to have our high school students who, you know, are you ready to usher them into a trade to the, to the companies that you've got, you know, locally. Why not go ahead and give them a chance to begin working at a company like that and Airbus or an all-stalled or, or I think those AIDT does that training down on the causeway. So there's, there's other ways to find success in your life. And maybe there's some ways that actually maybe more surefire than the four year round with this college. Well, there's a lot of people that make good money right out of high school once they start working, you know, with their hands and they, a lot of these people that go into trades become their own business. They become business owners at a really young age and often stick around that community and become productive members of that particular community. Yeah. And, but also look at, there's a big push, especially online from some right wing, you know, media figures who are telling folks that, well, you don't need to go to college. It's the liberals are making it too hard for conservatives to get into college. Your degree isn't going to be worth a damn. So why do it? But there's a lot of, you need conservatives in these colleges too, because, well, if you just let, you know, one side dominate the academic field and get all the degrees and you run into some problems we're already seeing. But I think the trade school thing is such a good idea. And then one of the parts of Project 2025, the 900, whatever page thing that from the Heritage Foundation and all these other groups, they recommended that there be, they allow kids at a younger age to work because there's been so many child endangerment laws and everything passed. Yeah. And the people that were critical of it were like, look, we're going to be sending the kids back into mines. They're going to be, you know, filling their lungs with coal and working 14, 15-hour days as 12-year-olds. I don't think that's the point. No, I think it's more about, hey, get that apprenticeship started. If you know that school isn't for you, academics isn't what, you know, you're going to put your base, your life around, why not have a 14-year-old start learning how to be a plumber, start learning, you know, how to work with wood. Yeah. And the other thing is just to acclimate yourself to this is what the work day kind of looks like. This is what the, this is what I've got to kind of, I don't know, just just familiarize myself as a young person. This is the part, this is the stage of life that I'm entering and it's being responsible and it's going to work. And in the end, you could actually just kind of, I don't know, just mature quicker maybe if you're on the job with the adults. Yeah, I agree. All the students said they wanted to learn more real-world schools, skills at school, which I think we can all agree on. Amen. Learning how to be an adult human and successful with that. 158, Paul Feynbaum on the way. Dan and I will be back tomorrow morning at six.