E36: How Bobbi Althoff got Drake as a guest for her brand new podcast and had the most popular podcast in the world 4 months after starting it.

Most people think playing to win is just working really hard.

Bobbi's story teaches me that it's actually taking risks. It's punching through the wall and not at the wall.

Bobbi took some measured risks and now has incredible success from it.

We should all ask how we can play to win like Bobbi Althoff.