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This week’s podcast is presented by Stephen and Jacqueline.

We hear from:

· Paul from Olney who wonders whether George will do the right thing;

· Witherspoon who doesn't have any sympathy for George;

· Michelle who is glad that Harrison has changed his approach;

· and finally Alan from Ramsgate who thinks that George is only going one way.

We also have emails from Jacquieline in New Zealand and Lilian, and WhatsApp messages from Ros and from Christine in Kilcreggan.

Plus: we have the Week in Ambridge from Suey, a roundup of the Dumteedum Facebook group from the mystery voice and the Tweets of the Week from Theo.

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Duration:: 55m
Broadcast on:: 11 Aug 2024
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With a spoon, who doesn't have any sympathy for George. Michelle, who is glad that Harrison has changed his approach. And finally, Alan from Ramsgate, who thinks that George is only going one way. We also have emails from Shaqueline in New Zealand and Lillian, and WhatsApp messages from Ros and from Christine and Kilkregan, plus we have the Week in Ambridge from Sui, a round up the Dump T Dump Facebook group from Ben, and the Tweets of the Week from Theo. But before we start talking too much, let's remind ourselves of what happened over the last seven days with a round up of the Week in Ambridge from Sui. Hello lovely people, here's Sui Queen Autar here, and it's time for a round up of this week in Ambridge. She began with the cricket, up front, while Alistair was tempted into gambling for a tenor by Justin, as to whether George is a decent human being, that we all knew where that was going. George pulled out from ruling the young people's cricket because apparently he was making a high moral stance against adultery on the part of the Bitneri. This leads us onto Fallon, who talked to Harrison about the outlets at the Eevee Choaching Station. Harrison was totally non-committal. It was Fallon's decision, and she was entirely underwhelmed with his response. Harrison then called Alistair for a chat and agreed to be the safety monitor for the under-16's cricket coaching. He then whined a lot about how hard it is to live with Fallon, and Alistair told me I had nothing to complain about. Alistair saw someone hanging around outside the vet practice, so Alistair investigated and found his nerve rival, John. There was a concertom between them, John broke the gate by slamming it, you could smell the testosterone in the air. Alistair talked John to punch him or come inside. Whiskey was drunk, and they had a manly chat, and Alistair said he really loves Denise, so John handed her over metaphorically, and then they fixed the gate together in an act of male bonding. After Emma's party, more of which later, Harrison told Fallon to go for her idea of running a café, rivaling the bridge farm's candy tea room, and giving Natasha a metaphorical poke in the eye. He'd even go back full-time at work to help with the money, while we'll see how that goes. Captain Fallon set out for Emma's party, they went with an 80s scene, and then Ed dressed as John Travolta from Saturday Night Fever. They pinched, sorry, borrowed, a costume for the village hall, and there was a slight wardrobe, drama, but Ed decided to learn a 70s dance from a 70s film for the 80s themed party. They planned putting up pics of young Emma, providing Susan could provide them. Are you kidding us? Susan for Robbie wallpaper the entire upstairs at the ball, with pictures of her children without drawing breath. Emma struggled womanfully through the surprise party after a visit to Alice to offer to do whatever it took not to get Alice sent to prison, whilst not actually dopping George in. At the party, she behaved like she was having a wet weekend in Skegnes, and was thoroughly miserable, and then got it all off her chest to Will. He seems to have taken the news surprisingly well, and has not immediately been to shop him to Harrison. We had my favourite scene from a very long time, from Lindy Bottom and Joy, it was a throw down. Lindy said they couldn't run a shuttle between the village green of the stables, where Alice thinks she's going back to work, as does Lillian, and Justin is determined to stop her. Joy said I'm in charge, Lindy Bottom said I know best, and George said more forcefully, I'm in charge. Kirsty shuffled about a bit and looked discombobulated. By Friday, it turns out to have been a committee decision, and Lindy was basically taking all the credit with Lillian, and there could now be both an express post and the scenic shower bank. We had an excellent trip down memory lane, thinking back to Roy. Kate helped Kirsty move some fencing for the long horns. Roy is clearly staying with Lexi, and Mikey's dad has taken him some stuff, including a framed aerial photograph of Umbridge. It took some finding, but it turned out on the back of a door, and there was Roy, while the tiny little yellow dot was his hat. There were lots of lovely memories, and they agreed he was an excellent actor. Bless you Ian Pepperall, George displayed all his natural tendencies by rounding off the week, suggesting that Harry what's his name bloke. Not knowing that he's already got a solid alibi, sounds like he's taking the existent amount of responsibility for his actions, and has no plans to go and turn himself in. Well, I hope you all have an excellent week. And next week, there's bound to be more trouble ahead. Thank you for that, Siri. That was another excellent roundup as ever. So Jacqueline, how has your week been? Well, I'm on holiday, so that's exciting. We have been doing a tour of the Opel Coast, which is from the Somme, really, to the Belgian border, and have discovered Calais. Calais, somewhere where it kind of passed through a lot of times in my life, but never stopped. But we parked the van up on a very, very well appointed council run site for camping car wrists, as they say here. And we took our bikes off the back of the machine and cycled, cycled around Calais, visited some amazing things, saw some absolutely fabulous places. And I could honestly, highly recommend Calais as a stop on a holiday. There's a beach, there's history, there's a fabulous museum about the Second World War Museum, and there's an even more amazing museum about the industrialisation of the lace industry in Calais, and it's a history of mode, the mode, a la mode. Yeah, very good, very good, but we're now moving inland, and we are now this morning and recording from Santa Mer, which is the start of the mining region, mining region. And today we are visiting a famous factory of Arc, the glass people. So did the museum in Calais mention that Calais was British until quite late? A lot. Yeah, it was all about the British, which I found absolutely fascinating. Now we had no idea that it was once British, but many of it over a century. Yeah, it was the last bit of France, it was British. It's been British, one for Dacchita and it was all British. Yeah, because I lived for five years in La Rochelle, so it was all British. The fact that there was a big industrialised lace industry in Calais comes from the fact that the Nottingham lace makers took over the first looms, a metche in French, two Calais and set up the industry. So there was no industry in a very marshy swampy place before, and so there we go. The rest is history, as they say. So how about you, Stephen? I think you've been walking a lot, haven't you? Yeah, I went for a couple of very long walks this week. I walked the southern half of the wisest way, you know, the wisest way runs from the end of the Thames path at Kemble all the way through to the Otter's Dyke part in Monmouth. Wow. But halfway through is Gloucester, so I walked from Kemble to Gloucester. And then yesterday I decided I'd walk, but I wasn't sure whether I'd walk the three choirs as route or the seven away from Worcester to Gloucester, and decided on balance it was probably going to be safer to walk the seven away, which is, as its name suggests, nice and flat. And that was still 50 kilometres of flat walking, so I'm quite tired right now. Oh, gracious, 50 kilometres, where did I think I walked 50 kilometres this week? And doing a lot of museums, you walk very slowly, I feel like I need a good long, hard, fast walk. I try and achieve that today around the glass factory. That's probably enough about us. So let's head on to the important bit, which is you, our lovely Carla Inneros. Hello, Tiger. And first up, we have Paul from Olney. Hello folks, it's Paul and Olney here, just listening to the last episode of this week on Friday evening, and as we were yesterday, a couple of lovely references to Roy and bit more of a tribute to Ian Perpro, clearly the powers that be of the archers have decided that a happy ending in Bulgaria for Roy is the right decision, and they are following up on that. That's really lovely. The big story that we could call us is what's going on with members of the car crash, and we've now got two other people aware of that little Scrove's George Grundy's role in it. They need actual permits. Surprise that it was Will, the game keeper, put the poacher, saying that they shouldn't turn him in. Not so surprised that Emma's reluctance to turn him in, but in covering him to do the right thing himself. Will he actually do that? That's a really big question, but this Madcap screen, if he's describing somebody who looks like Harry, and saying, I saw somebody else there, that's going to go down like a let balloon, isn't it? It's not going to say his skin in any way, shape or form. Anyway, have a good week. Thanks for that, Paul. Yes, we have several calls this week. I think three of you all talk about this situation with Will and Emma and George. I agree. Will is surprising because Will can be very, very, for one of the better expression of himself and very dictatorial about things, but he isn't here. He's giving George not the benefit of the doubt exactly, he's just not encouraging him to do the right thing, whereas I think Emma has really encouraged him to do the right thing so far. Emma's got a form on the dubbing people in, because she famously called crime stoppers after her uncle had been responsible for fire at the Brookfield barn back in the day. Because they were living there, she was living there, wasn't she, at the time? She was living there and George was unaccounted for initially along with Josh, and then they were found later not to have been in the barn when it happened, but she was very upset about that. That's of course, her to call crime stoppers on her uncle Keith. It was Keith at that time, not Clive, who's the normal villainous horror bin. Yeah, hey, the turning of the story at the end, this is so typical of Nick Warburton, who doesn't actually, he brings things very, very slowly to her head, it's a slow burn with him. I can't say I dislike it, sometimes it feels frustrating, I feel like we could have got a bit more umpf out of this week at the very end, but if at now it's just the pages turned over, don't know who the writer is for next week, maybe they're going to do a double whammy like they've done several times this, say, in the last few months, and it'll be him again. It'd be interesting to see where this goes, where the Emma will blow this idea out of the water completely interesting. It's Oven Shah next week, he's a fairly new writer, I think. Ah, yes, I do remember him from a few, well, probably about two months ago. I think that was his first script, so this may be only his second week of writing. Well, that'd be interesting to see where he runs with this story and see if he can get George out of his misery, but into jail. Let's hear our next caller in, and we all know how this goes. Y'all know how this goes. Hey baby, I hear the blues are calling, toss salads and scrambled eggs, sir. Greetings, Jacqueline, Stephen, and all of them two demers around the world, it's with an Angus Haggis here, caller entering prior to Friday's episode. The preview for it is, George clutches at straws, mmm, he sounds desperate. We last heard from Emma on Wednesday when she was on the verge of telling Will the truth. Did she or didn't she? In true Archer's fashion, there was no answer on Thursday. It just went back and listened to last Friday's great two-hander episode. One thing that didn't get discussed by our hosts or caller-inerers was Emma referring to Ed as George's father, and George responding that Ed is his uncle, not his father, and that he never treated him the same as he did Kira, so much to unpack there in that one brief exchange brings us back to the original sin of George's birth. Emma must still carry a barrel full of guilt about it, and has Ed actually treated George differently, whereas this some sort of paradigm George has created to explain away his misbehaviors. Many felt sympathy for George in that scene. I understood his motivations, but I did not have sympathy for him. George was playing with Emma's aforementioned long-standing guilt. He made her swear on Kira for whatever that's really worth. Emma actually plainly laid it out, as I have done so since the accident. The accident itself was explainable, but he consciously framed Alice and lied to the police and everyone else. Let's look at George's past. He took the money from the church box and got his great uncle to cover for him. He set fire to the post box and got his grandmother to cover for him, and now he's perverted the course of justice and is trying to get his mother to cover for him. As I wrote on Facebook, only the truth will set George free. Well, it may cause his body to be locked up, but hopefully his mind will be reset to a positive path. George, do the right thing. Talk to you soon. Thank you for that call with a spoon, and I agree with you completely on George, but I don't think it's worth calling out for him to do the right thing, it's just not in his nature to do that. On your point about whether Ed had treated him differently from Kira, I don't think there's any justification for that. I think Ed has been absolutely fantastic as a father to George. He's done everything that he could do, but he's been dealing with some pretty useless material that you can't make a decent human being out of the ingredients that you get with George. He's been unpleasant and hopeless right from the very start, so I'm in full agreement with you there with absolutely no sympathy for him whatsoever, he's just a horrible little man. Yeah, I agree. I agree with you both. I feel like George is using the situation, the second sense of his birth, and the way in which he's been brought up as an excuse. It's almost like the kind of wily old farmer from Joe, and the slightly dodgy, dodgy, neared, be good, neared, do good from Eddie has all been concentrated and the ridiculousness of Ed, and we'll if we talk about that generation as well, there bitterness about life in general, both of them between them and the jealousies between them, has created this completely melted down pot of George who's got the worst of all of them, and he seems to have the last statement in Friday night's episode was him going off into this flight of fancy about blaming Harry and no moral compass whatsoever, no idea of where he's doing. I don't think he gets it all from the Grundy's because of course the other half of his heritage is this horror bin, and he's grandmother, Susan, so his great uncles aforementioned Keith and Clive, and then Betty dodgy, a whole horror bin clan, or a byword crime and general awfulness for decades before the sudden transformation of Tracy's international treasure. That's very true, Stephen, but in fact if you put the Grundy's and the horror bin's in a melting pot, what do you get, you get George? I think we've all had to don't think I've ever heard anyone express any opinion other than dislike for George, although there was of course, with this for instance, some sympathy for him during that two-hander conversation last Friday a week ago, and I know I didn't feel sympathy for him then either, I don't think we expressed sympathy for him in the show last week, and I think George is bad and he's going down. Yes, I don't think anybody has mentioned Emma's behaviour during the week, and that moment when she was talking to Fallon, and she was, we thought, about to explain what has actually happened, and then she bottled it completely, and she's talked about anything she can do to help, which was sort of a short of actually helping. When she was talking to Alice? Sorry, yes, when she was talking to Alice, it's not Alan, though they were both... Yeah, she's had two conversations this week, hasn't she? I'm just turning on my page, and look, I wrote a note when I was listening on, so in Tuesday when she went to talk to... She went to talk to Chris? Yeah, yeah, we're close, yeah, and I wrote, "Gosh, Emma's strung out!" She was always palpable, the tension in her, and who can blame her? She had that secret. Glad she shared it with someone, I'm very sorry it wasn't Brian, there you go, I make a plot picture once every thousand years, and it goes well in the next four days, but telling Will was that he's actually logical, because he is George's biological father, and he's more open to George, to seeing George as, no, not more open, no, Ed would be immediately on alert about George, and perhaps rattle Emma even more, whereas Will, he came across her upset and wanted to talk, I think he was very kindly, I'm amazed that they can speak so kindly to each other, or they put each other through, but they do, they live in the same village, they're very good, and so actually having them together, and also then, as Will has been spelled, we have both their parents, both their parents are the ones that know, but once one person tells somebody else who will show, will be in a position that he doesn't have a partner, so maybe won't confide in a partner, but will Clary love being brought into it? She would at least talk some sense, and she would, I think, agree with Emma, that the only way forward is for George to turn himself in. Yeah. Thanks for that, Will has been a very good starting point for a conversation, and yes, we all agree with you, there is no excuse. There is no excuse. Next up we have Michelle. Hello, I'm your damnateed Emma's, Michelle here. What a week! I'm sure you'll have lots of calls in on the Emma, George and Will storyline, so I went spend too long on that other than to praise the excellent acting, in particular, Emma's fake surprise and happiness at the birthday party was just so well done. She's been absolutely superb, a switch between loving and hating Emma, and I've been firmly team Emma this week. What a star. Speaking of changing my mind on people, I must turn to Harrison, who I've previously been critical of. It was genuinely great to hear find and Harrison starting to heal their relationship this week. Maybe I'm not very romantic, but I sometimes find some of the overtly romantic gestures of some couples a bit cringey. This week's John Travolta impression by Ed was a good example of such excessive expressions, but the loveliness and I like the realness of Harrison's supporting palace and on what we think is the inevitable move to the charging station, Cafe, was such a lovely return to the more normal adult conversations we've seen with them before, and it gave me real hope we might see the happy couple we once had return. The person that I have no change of opinion on is Joy, who continues to out sniff Linda. Magnificent, absolutely wonderful to hear her outmaneuvering the woman who can't be a nootvid, take care all, speak soon, thank you for that Michelle, thank you for calling in. Yeah, the acting this week has been yet again such a high level. Emerald, oh Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, she has been an absolute. She showed all the emotions. As I said, I felt that she was so strung out on one day and yet going into that party, all smiles and pretending she had no idea. Just fantastic, I mean as a human being, great acting to be able to do that attack was out, but as an actress as well. I haven't yet, because I'm on holiday and I don't have any personal space in a camper, or as I say a metal box on wheels, I haven't yet heard the interview with Emerald and the young actor who plays George Angus. Angus Stobbe. Was he time point of view? It was on feedback. Feedback after, yeah, radio rather than telly. Yeah, on feedback. I haven't yet heard it, but people have made a lot of comments on the Facebook set page about it. As far as Harrison's concerns, now I disliked Harrison intensely during that period immediately after the crash and the loss of the unknown foetus, but he did, I agree with Michelle, he redeemed himself more this week and he took on board, but fancy it being Alistair was the one who put him in the right direction unintentionally. That did seem quite ironic, and I also felt it happened very quickly from that you do whatever you want to, let's live our separate lives, all that gloominess, and then one conversation with Alistair and suddenly he's realized how lucky he is with his relationship with talent. It was very rapid. It was, but on the other hand, I'm really glad that it's been resolved because it was getting quite wearing, having that degree of misery, sadly, regularly would cast into the programme. It wasn't on the things that was being kept quiet in the background, it was... No, it wasn't. I agree. So hopefully they'll just carry on being there, and they've always been a lovely couple. That's what I found astonishing about that. There were always a couple that you felt were able to communicate with each other, so this lack of ability to communicate or to understand or to listen has been very stressful. So yes, I welcome with open arms Harrison and Fallon back. The problem is that they haven't really resolved the underlying problem, which is Harrison really wanted to... Maybe coaching the under-16s is going to sublimate that some way, but it still remains a problem. I think it will, and I think it will lull us into a false sense of their relationship back on track is going to support with the EV charging station, and then wham, something else will happen. Yeah, I think that is, as you say, an underlying problem that will remain. And the last thing that Michelle talked about was joy. Oh, how wonderful was she? I love joy as well. I love her enthusiasm, her unflappableness, her just wonderful, weariness. Yeah, I agree with you completely, Michelle. The way that she was putting Linda in her place was just absolutely brilliant. Joyful, joyful. Yes, of course, Linda is coming back strong and taking everything that she has disagreed with, turning it round into something that was at the very least a committee idea, it's not her own idea. And they turn the tables on core Kirsty with the idea that Linda is going to be the command centre for the litter picking operation and Kirsty is going to be the actual operative on the ground doing the litter picking. Wonderful. Very, very good writing. And in fact, Nick Wuberton does write Linda in particular very, very well. But yes, I love that, Michelle, that you said joy continues to out sniff Linda, which is just perfect. We only have two weeks to wait until the big day itself, and obviously it's ridiculous that they're organising a fate and indeed the countering on thing with so much uncertainty with only two weeks left to go. As always, how about we'll signal that ambush fairness? So those are the first few calls and there's one more to come. If you'd like to join in by calling us yourself or dropping us the line by message or email, Shatley is here to tell you how and all the details are also in the show notes. The first option is to record a message or a plot prediction by going to www.SpeakPipe.com/Dantidam. There have been some issues with SpeakPipe this week, including what we hope is only a temporary reduction in the call length to 90 seconds. We are looking into this and hope to get it fixed soon. Alternatively, you can send us a voice note or a written message via WhatsApp on 07810 012881. If you're calling from outside the UK, start with +44 and drop that first zero. 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Give it a try at mintmobile.com/switch. $45 up front for three months plus taxes and fees, promoting for new customers for limited time, unlimited more than 40 gigabytes per month. Slow's. Full turns at Mint Mobile.com. Now let's get back to the calls, and our final one is from Alan. Hi. Alan from Ramsgate, second time caller in the Earth. Let's listen to Friday's episode, and wasn't best pleased with how they dealt with George not going to the police, and we'll say, "Should they ignore it and let what happened happens?" And then at the end, George is going to try and sit up Alice's old boyfriend. It can only end in one way, and that is with George getting himself more and more into trouble. So thanks again, and I'll call back soon. Thank you very much for that call, Alan. And yes, I agree with you. I think that George is utterly incapable of maintaining the level of front to get that Harry story across. I think that he will not last a moment on the witness stand, and going up there and even attempting to point the finger at Harry is going to be a disaster. And if he does it, if he's not talked out of it, he will end up very obviously pertering himself, and it will end up with him probably worse off than if he had just come forward now. And yes, he's in trouble already, because he has been withholding valuable information from the police all the way through their investigation. But to go beyond that, to actually lying on the witness stand, I think would be a degree of seriousness that he is not prepared for, and he's just going to collapse under questioning from the defence barrister. Yes, I agree. One of the things that we haven't talked about is whether what Emma and now Will's positions are in knowing the facts. Because when Susan went to prison, when Emma and Chris were small, wasn't that because she, she hid her brother and she was a kind of hiding of something. I don't know, I can't remember how you put it. Yes, she was an accessory after the fact. She helped Clive hide from the authorities, and then she lied to the police, I think, about whether or not she knew where he was. So that's what caused her into trouble. So do you think that the implication of Emma and Will knowing also puts them in danger, surely? I think the practicalities of that again depend on whether they're called to give evidence. And I think Emma has really opened herself up by volunteering to appear as a witness, because she keeps, she can just go out there and say nice and say, "Well, Alice, to stop Alice going to jail." But once she's on the stand, she'll sort of tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing about the truth. And she will be opened across examination again by Alice's barrister, who will ask her potentially all kinds of other questions, especially if there's any suspicion around George's involvement in all of that, because Alice has remembered hearing George's voice in a context that I think she's going to realize George was in the car with her. And that's something that the defense will ask all the witnesses about, because the defense barrister's job is to try and persuade at least one member of the jury that there is reasonable doubt about Alice having driven the car on that day. So anything that he can do or she can do to get that reasonable doubt into place, they're going to deploy it. And that's if it gets to court, if it doesn't get to court, and it's found out that Emma and Will knew about the information, if somehow it's all resolved before a court case, I still feel that they'll be vulnerable to some kind of judicial something. There might be, I'm trying to say really, I think I'm trying to say, are they vulnerable to being accused of hiding facts? If this comes out before it goes to court, so if someone were to call crime stoppers or an equivalent thing and report on them and the police then investigate, then they could prepare charges against Will or Emma for presenting the court's injustice. Ah, perverting the court's injustice, yeah, that's the thing. But it's mostly George. Yes, of course, it's mostly George, what, it couldn't be anything else, could it? I wasn't, where was Harry though? We took about Harry, because I'm sure Harry had already gone off to... Rehab. To rehab, yeah, when the accident happened. Yes, I think he was at rehab at the time. So he has got a car sign alibi. Yeah, ah-ha, there we go, the plot, the cuttons. So those are the calls, thank you so much for calling in. We always say that this show is about what you, the listeners think, so please do call us to tell us how the week was for you in Ambridge and call in next week. Now let's look at those WhatsApp messages and emails we received this week. First up is an email from Lillian with the subject line monologue question mark and it goes like this. Hi, Jacqueline, Stephen and all dumb to dumbas everywhere. I was going to post this on the Facebook page, but I thought it would be better to email it to the podcast. Many of us will remember the monologues during lockdown and how many of us hated them, although we all agreed it was better than nothing. I remember a discussion on the podcast that suggested that there may be times when a monologue would be a good idea and I think this may be such a time. What George has revealed to Emma is massive. She will undoubtedly be in turmoil as to what to do with this information and by her own admission she couldn't get a head wrapped around it. I think Emma should do a monologue sharing her thoughts and her worries and I think this would add to the drama of the story. Interested to know what others think, best wishes Lillian. Thank you for that Lillian and yes, I'm one of the many of us who hated the monologues but agree that it was better than nothing. I think I hated them to such an extent that I don't think that's the answer to the sort of situation we have now. I think what we really need is for Emma to talk this through with somebody else and her mother would be the audience person I think. If we had a conversation between Emma and Susan, particularly given the backstory that we've talked about around Susan's converting the course of justice and the context of her rather Clive ending up in prison for that, we would have a combination of the back history as well as the character development and I think it would be more scope for that than a monologue which I think would inevitably have to be Emma going round and round and round in her own head trying to work out where to go and while that might be interesting in some context, I think for an episode of The Archers it would be a bit hard work for everybody. I'm not saying for a moment that Emma and her hand couldn't do a brilliant job of it. We know how good she's been and we've been saying how good she's been but I just think that it's very difficult and a slightly artificial conversation but I think having it with Susan so that you've got this past history would avoid too much of the artificiality and I still don't really know why she hasn't spoke to Susan about it. Yeah, no I don't know why she hasn't spoken to Susan about it. I think it's a good idea Lillian, in fact could I feel like with the mood that Emma's been in this week it would be more of a mad woman rant. I can imagine her having a furious conversation with herself as she marches up like you hear or whatever, so you put the world to right don't you? I certainly do when I'm walking and I get everything going in my head, sometimes out loud and then it's all finished with the whole thing and I don't think it would be very good. A radio drama for us I think the whole interaction between Emma and other people is what we like to hear and with her mum it would be absolutely perfect with Susan and Susan as we said in the context is the perfect person to talk to and it's her mum. Good idea and thank you very much for sending an email in Lillian, it's good to hear from you. Yes thank you Lillian. Next we have an email from Jacqueline in New Zealand with a subject line review five stars Dumtee Dum is like my arches match of the day and it goes like this, dear Dumtee Dum. I couldn't work out where to leave a review so here goes, I have loved loved the arches since the 90s, imagine my delight when I found this podcast digging into each episode in such detail is now a weekly treat for me and my teen daughter. The hosts are great and each call are having a different take on the week in Ambridge is brilliant. A first-time caller in or a call in recently who had been listening for 50 years. Within our community there is so much collective knowledge gaps get filled in all the time. When Susan tough loved Alice pre rehab we then found out that she has had trouble bonding with Christopher as a newborn. If you love the arches call in, your voice adds so much to the episode. Keep up the great work behind the scenes your fab work is so appreciated. Jacqueline from Christchurch in New Zealand. Thank you for that Jacqueline, I think if you look at the show notes where you find this podcast you'll probably find there's a link that tells you how to do it now I'm going to try and put your review on our Instagram page. I think try and think how to because that's my level of technology as well but I hope you do manage to do a review but I will spread the word that you think we're five stars and thank you. I'm delighted that you're listening with your teenage daughter I think you've mentioned that once before and I think the more teens we start listening they'll get hooked and they might drift off in their 20s but they'll be back by the 30s. Yes thank you Jacqueline very much for that for the kind words that you've included in there about us and we're just the front end of a small team that delivers this podcast each week and sometimes we struggle with some issues like the ongoing problems with speak type because I'm hoping we will get resolved soon but it's slightly out of our hands but it's great that you're carrying on and enjoying it. Finally we have two WhatsApp messages both are on the same theme so I'm going to read them both. First we hear from Ros. Just listen to the last night's episode and bits of it were Kate and Kirsty talking about Roy Tucker. It was so cleverly written to pay tribute to the actor who died while talking about Roy such a nice thing to do regards to all that Dunty Dun and also a message from Chris. Good afternoon what a lovely tribute to Ian Pepperl it was so moving that's all I wanted to say. Christine from Kilkregan. Thank you Ros and Christine for those two messages which I thought since they covered the same ground we would handle together. I agree with you it was a very well handled tribute to Ian Pepperl. He died I think right at the end of last year his obituary appeared in the Guardian on the 4th of January so I think he must have died during the Christmas period and yes I was still wondering whether we were going to get Roy back as a character with a different actor but I think this scene that we had with Kirsty and Kate has put the seal on that and that we won't be getting Roy back we might occasionally hear about him again but we won't have him returning to the village again he's now permanently going to be ensconced in in Bulgaria and who knows the next thing we might hear is him getting married to Lexi out in positive or wherever it is that she's from yeah it was a lovely lovely very moving tear jerking moving for me tribute to him and I'm glad they did because we had that funny thing a few weeks ago where there were cupcakes and the zoom conversation that we really felt if that was the end of it it was a bit of a dance quip but so no they did him very proud I think it was a very very good send off I think we both feel the same about Roy though that we are I'm a bit disappointed that there won't be a Roy in ambush because he was such a good link between everybody from his relationship with ex-relationship but a relationship ongoing relationship with Kate and therefore the Aldridge's his relationship with the people at the ball on his baits and at Greg Eibels he was a real linking character so as a character I think he'll be sorely missed as a device in the archers yes definitely he'd held the entire village together in some ways yes and he was and people dismissed him as a bit of a nothing I always wanted him to get together with Kirsty and I know they're mates and it didn't work anything but I always felt that Kirsty and he would be become non archers central characters to life in ambridge what will be will be and it's not happening but I think we shall miss Roy more than ever yes his disastrous love life was part of the point and also part of how he never was the heart of the story it was all going on around him and he was bringing things together but they paid tribute to that with a reference to Layla and her experience with a cow yeah I thought they brought in so many elements it was absolutely fantastic writing brilliant acting and Kate is Kate and Kirsty actually felt that Kate was a very she's maturing nicely Kate she's definitely grown on me in these last few years she's less she's less of an irritant than she was I've always found her brilliantly entertaining I know I know you've always really liked her I've gone through phases with her but she's definitely a bit like Emma you go up and down but not to such extremes but she's definitely in a good place for me at the moment now as we've mentioned a few times Patreon backers have dumped it down and get an ad-free version of the podcast and after positive feedback from our patrons we're now aiming to make the Patreon version available from around 6 p.m. on Saturday this is not however a 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let's move on to facebook and give a warm dumpedy dumb welcome to the following people who have joined our facebook group in the last week with apologies for any mispronunciations Laura Prescott Sarah Williams Ruth Lloyd Rebecca Richland Kaiser Amanda Bell Hilary Sanderson Claire Hine Liz Samway's Bonnalooka Steve Whitaker Sarah Oakwood Julian Wakeley Sharon Canning Sarah Ripley Jones Heather Divine Harriet Bahia Andy Miles Wendy Anderson now welcome all you newbies and don't be shy about joining in and never hesitate to start a new conversation we actively encourage you to go full immersion and start posting colouring and emailing all in the same week so let's hear what's been going on in the dumpedy dumb facebook group this week with a wound up from Ben who is currently taking a break from sweaty old Shanghai and is calling us from Italy Mihau and hello there to Jacqueline Steven and everyone else out there it's Ben from Shanghai or technically this week from inside a shower cubicle and a hotel near an airport in Rome here with this week's social media review just as people were getting a general feeling that the ongoing storyline about the events of that ill-fated evening in and around the am might be starting to wear a bit thin super smooth tin bands they managed to reignite our imaginations with his any observation that nobody seems to have noticed that given that George had to move Alice into the driver's seat that both she and the interior of the calf would have been soaked in more than just a vodka she'd been necking Helen Cook pointed out that if it were an Agatha Christie mystery this would be the final and critical clue and I simply loved the idea she suggested that having worked to all lands Chris would deliver the denouement upstairs at the ball sounds to me like this story has to make kings of a stand-up afternoon play in its own right and some food for thought if any of the production team aren't listening lots of us were all very moved by the lovely send off for Roy Tucker who we should all know by now has gone to live a lovely life off-night in Bulgaria with Lexi described beautifully by Richard as an obituary disguised as a sort how and the most arches moment of the year dumped he dumb as were united in their praise for the script writing and acting and described the episode as a fitting tribute to actor Ian Pepperall who sadly died earlier this year and finally lots of folks came over very nostalgic after what was clearly a deliberate move on the part of the script writers to include songs from Saturday Night Feeler at Emma's 80s themed birthday party it's almost as if they knew that everyone would jolt straight online to point out that the film and its iconic soundtrack were of course released in 1977 many of you danced to it some of you found it racy and some of you were even banned for watching it it was just a shame that the budgets or rights could not stretch to some audio to go with Ed's routine and disappointingly he wasn't even in the episode given all the builder until next time tatian or arivederci I'm off to go and catch a flight back home to Bristol bye-bye Thank you Ben and thank you so much to everyone on the Dumjidam Facebook group if you'd like to join them please do but don't forget to answer all the membership questions so that we know that you're a real person and if anybody out there would like to write as a review something along the lines of Jacqueline's review that we discussed earlier there is a link to instructions on how to do this in the show notes if you can't leave a review or if you already have the other thing you could do is tell three of your friends about us even if they're not currently archers listeners who knows it might be the start of a long obsession now to twitter where you will find us at Dumjidam make sure you include the archers hashtag using a capital t and a so the visually impaired who use screen readers can enjoy any archers based tweets as well as at Dumjidam I can occasionally be found at Wenlock house and we can both also be found with the archers friends on blue sky where I am at jberto.bsky.social and I am at wenlock.bsky.social so let's find out who has won the twitter medals this week. 2020 postcat or should that be xx these days? Hello Jacqueline, Steven and Dumjidam is everywhere it's purple pumpkin here with treat to the week and my thanks as ever to everyone who tags at Dumjidam to make sure we see all the best ones this week on both twitter and blue sky there were enormous heaps of praise for emerald o'hamra hand who plays Emma an angostoby who plays George that two handed episode was fantastic and even they listed some sympathy for two characters who the treaters usually love to hate there were also a lot of plot predictions some of which had either come true or been proved wrong even by thursday night when I'm recording this but greasy at greasy.bsky.social was one of the many to suggest that George is going to bunk off traveling with tilly button never to be seen again would that mean Alice would be relieved all charges thanks to George's confession would Harrison have a mutter meltdown or as united kingdom at shamed again suggested with the surprise party end with a drunken overwrought Emma blurting it all out about George and Harrison punching his lights out before cuffing him and cutting him off to the nick as we saw well a bit of that I also rather enjoyed a thread started by Ian at kernell 27 who asked what are they going to call the new cafe at the charging station kernell 27 claims he couldn't think of a decent pun name but among the suggestions I liked were his of plug and plug there was also not Natasha's but my particular favorite was from Miranda at apple android app just evs but now over to my medals for blue sky skates and ex-posts all of which we continue to refer to as tweets of the week in bronze position it's jasper berry at jasper berry too with some ambrage trip advisor reviews felons at the evs station five stars great food and atmosphere I strongly recommend the scones ambridge tea room one star unwelcoming decor gimmicky yet uninspiring menu only striking feature is the size of the bill the silver med list is greasy at greasy dot blue sky dot social you are me george the most intense line since nuke i am your father and finally the gold medal goes to newcomer helen x2c at helen x2c dot blue sky dot social so many are going to have to eat humble pie the phallen capitalized on it the humble pie cafe of the charging station did you criticize alice and call george hero enjoy our humble pie vegan and gluten free options available and on that culinary note that's it for this week i hope to see you all on twitter or blue sky next week thank you for that fio and congratulations to all who were mentioned in this week's roundup and don't forget we're on instagram at dumpedy dump where we are starting to be a bit more active and on that note please send any the arches or posthouse relevant photos to the dumpedy dump email and we'll publish them with credit to you and so that's dumpedy down at mail dot com we'll be back once again next week and recording at our normal time which is crack of dawn on saturday morning i don't know where i'll be recording from so let's hope it works in two weeks time i don't know whether i'll be able to record so maybe Stephen will be with somebody else then we'll see so please get your calls in by midnight on friday uk time as usual anyway and as we come to the end of this episode we need to say thanks to all our wonderful contributors and to the team of dumpedy dumpers behind the scenes and we need to say a great big thank you to all of you who are listening to us too we love making this podcast and sharing our love of the arches around the world and we must say thank you to kim durham and sunnie oorman for their voices and to our podcasting parents lucy v freeman and royfield ground thank you so much for listening and joining us today we are now off to arrange a stall at cantering on so it's all of work from me and it's goodbye from me the best way to give someone a gift they'll never forget is to give a gift they'll always use american giant makes clothes that just keep getting better with age like 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