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Bad Bosses

This week’s podcast is presented by Stephen and Jacqueline.

We hear from:

· Love Jazzer's Singing, who is glad that Alistair and Denise are out in the open;

· Nicola, a first time caller-innerer, who has firm views on John. And on biscuits;

· Laura from Bedfordshire, who feels we are missing out on important conversations;

· Glyn, who thinks we may have been listening to an episode of Horrible Bosses;

· Richard Biffo Prop, who is unimpressed by some workers as well as some bosses;

· And finally Globe-Trotting Richard who is worrying about HR processes at Casey Meats.

Plus: we have the Week in Ambridge from Suey, a roundup of the Dumteedum Facebook group from Michelle and the Tweets of the Week from Theo.

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Duration:: 1h 9m
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Coming up, we have a six lovely calls from Love Jazz's Singing, who is glad that Alistair and Denise are out in the open. Nicola, a first-time coronerer, Hooray, who has firm views on John and on biscuits. Laura from Bedfordshire, who feels we are missing out on important conversations. Glen, who thinks we may have been listening to an episode of Horrible Bosses. Richard before prop, who is unimpressed by some workers, as well as some bosses. And finally, Globe-Toughing Richard, who is worrying about HR processes at Casey Meats. Plus, we have the Week in Ambridge from Sui, a round-up of the Dante Dam Facebook group from Michel, and the Tweets of the Week from Theo. But before we start talking too much, let's remind ourselves of what happened over the last seven days with a round-up of the Week in Ambridge from Sui. And many of the people say, "Sui, going on top here," and a round-up of the Week in Ambridge. But first, I am so sorry to have missed last week. But thank you for the supportive messages, and particularly to Millie Merryweather for all her dental knowledge and cheerleading she has been a starve. So this week, we have established that Casey Meats has no HR support. Vince knows now about employment law. Freddie continues to be bullied by his work colleagues and Vince is letting himself shout himself, despite being given a hard talking to Billie in a very cisderly fashion. And Freddie got reminded that he has no locks. She never misses a trick. Vince and Elizabeth went to the post-forest dinner at Grey Gables from Milo Haywood, celebrity chef. Susan didn't get to go, but she and Tracy ran into Milo, who was another big bully, and got her cookbook signed. A level of excitement made me think she at least offered up a body part for her in design. There were lemon flavoured ants at the dinner, which apparently come from somewhere down south. New Elves is disappointed that they have not been as far as we've heard. Blues and twos to deal with food poisoning at the Carter's forage dinner, that they didn't ask permission to forage from Oliver from. The boardchester board, not so much as bullied Stella, but just didn't care what she had to say really about environmental matters. Stella is working herself up to a new dog. Pip wants a kitten from Grange Farm to save you the worry. I can confirm they're getting a lovely black kitten. Pip was tasked with sorting out a hen night for Lottie's friend, Elina. You remember Lottie, they went to school together, daughter Dame Madeline, haven't heard from her in a couple of years, and guess who came? Elves came back for an all-female episode. It was that Reese woman. You know, obsessed with cows and unable to make a lasagna, she was back. Very sensibly, Fallon and Chelsea put together a package for the hen do with many petties and cupcake decorating. They then got ambushed by Natasha, who found out that Fallon had been echoing on the course the truth about her moonlighting and even though the tea room didn't do hen parties, suddenly now they do. In New England, Natasha came out with some good ideas for affordable embroidered robes and sunflower decorations as Elina is Ukrainian. It looks like everybody's going to win, and I so wanted Natasha to lose. And where is sausage boy? We've not heard a pea from Tom in weeks. I suppose, I suppose, we need to talk about veterinary. Denise admitted to Wishful Poor, there's no chance for working things out with John without bothering to mention she's shagging her boss. And they really love each other. They really, really do. Excuse me, why am I a bit sick? Well, let's cross our fingers, everybody, that these things are resolved, and I hope you all have a most excellent week. Thank you for that, Suey. So Stephen, what have you been up to since we spoke less Saturday mornings? I have finished couch to 5K. I did my final run on Tuesday, no, Wednesday in the end, because Tuesday was a miserable wet day, and I was feeling a bit run down. So the final take couch to 5K session on Wednesday, and then yesterday I actually did a 5K run over the local park run course, not with anybody else, just by myself, just to see how easy it was to do 5K. And I managed that fairly well despite the heat. So my plan is to keep doing that. Good. And is there a park run going on this year that you'll be able to join it? It's a weekly thing. So every week on a Saturday, so not brilliant when it comes to combining it with podcasting, there are two park runs in Chantlin, and the nicer course through Pit Mill Park, it's about a half hour walk away from here to get to the start. I need to be there for nine o'clock. So it's probably doable if we are prompt with our recording, but since I ran yesterday, I'm certainly not going to do it this week. And then next week I've got various things on in Saturday evening. So I don't want to take up time doing a park run that I should be spending editing podcasts so I can get away. Well, well done. Many congratulations from me, and I'm sure lots of other people will be impressed with the fact that you've done that. Yeah. I don't know whether I would ever be able to get up to 5K again, but there we go, but I'm a bit older than you. What about you? What have you been up to this week? Well, this might upset some of our more sensitive listeners, but I did mention impassing. I didn't know that it was on air or whether it was just when we were chatting about my mice. Last Friday I discovered I had a mouse because I discovered a bag of doggy kibble that had been nibbled. So I started off on Saturday with two humane traps, caught two mice in one trap. I went off for a walk and released them in a field and thought, that's it. Well, Tamma got back. There were another two in the next humane trap and unbeknownst to me, Lois could set a proper mouse trap and that is caught one as well. So we realized it was major infestation time. So basically it has been the weekend being terrorized by the fact that mice are running around the cellar, weying on everything. So cleaning every... I was frenetic, I told you. And we caught 13 mice in the end. As I say, four of them were released and the rest were caught in traps. So I was not convinced that they weren't walking a kilometer back to come back into the cellar. So I've had a very, very, very micey week. And it was very stressful for me because I can't stand them. And I can't stand the thought of them being. I think I would express on this podcast the dislike for ratty things. And in fact, Lois had to put the ones in the humane trap in a black paper bag for me, a dark paper bag, so that I could carry them because I couldn't look at them. So letting them out to the field was quite hilarious. But anyway, I gave up on that. So sorry, sorry people who think I've been a cruel animal killer, but believe me, you don't want mice in your cellar. Have you considered to get cat? I understand they're quite good for dealing with mice. Yeah, I'd love to have a cat. But I think Julia, my very 10-year-old English setter has had a very hate-hate relationship with the neighbor's cat because the first time the cat who was used to wandering onto our terrace, where she was a puppy, Julia bouncing up to her and the cat squashed her across her nose. And it's a bit like Julia must have been frightened by the Hoover once. Once got never again. Yeah, no, I'd love to have a cat, but I've decided the next time I am a dog free, I'm going to introduce a puppy in a kitten at the same time. So there we are. I think that's more than enough about us. Let's get on to the important bit, which is you, our lovely caller. Anyways, where are we going first, Steven? First up, we will have love jazz or singing. Hello, Pusca. Hello, dumpty dummas. It's love jazz is singing here. I was going to call a little while ago, expressing my discomfort and at the amount of time it has taken for Alastair and Denise to come out of the closet. But luckily they're out. Now, much as I admire Denise's sort of straight talking on the bench, I can't help feeling it's a little bit overdue. I can't also help feeling a bit uncomfortable that I didn't mind too much until I heard John and he became a character and a real person in my mind. Before that, I was just like, "Oh, Alastair's had a hard run and he deserves some love and he's clearly gentlemanly about sort of a pouncing too early." And then I heard John, I thought, hang on a minute. It's actually proper sort of adultery situation, isn't it? I'm not sure about this at all. Anyway, it's all coming out. Thank goodness. And Denise isn't looking great in the situation. I wonder if my experience of being parented as a sort of a Gen X, there was a little bit less softly, softly than this lot pussy-fushing around poor, waiting for the best moment, setting it all up so that they can sit down and have a talk. Just telling or separating surely, he's an adult. I don't know what that's about, but maybe I'm a little bit harsh in these matters. Yeah, I feel like he's going to have some sort of tantrum and stamp his feet and everyone's going to be rushing around him. And I'm going to find it all extremely irritating. But maybe that just says more about where I come from. I don't know, but yes, thank goodness that's out in the open. And yeah, let's rip the plaster off. And love Jazza. No, I love Jazza. I know who John, but that's okay. I love him, you know, he's robinneking, you know, when he's in the shop sort of spying on them in the bench and then not letting on. But it's more of a restraint there, Jazza. Anyway, have a super week, everyone, whatever you're doing. And thanks, as always, for a wonderful show. Thank you for that call. I'm not going to say anything at this point about John, because I think our next call focuses specifically on him. But I tend to agree with you about the way that Paul is being treated here and the extent to which Denise in particular is trying to protect him from the truth about the relationship between Denise and John. I think that she hasn't really let him grow up in that respect. And I don't think that he has made a huge effort to grow up either. He has always struck me as being a slightly immature young man as far as human relationships, or indeed pretty much anything goes, to be honest. I do find him a little bit immature. And I think this shows through in a lot of what he does. And it's certainly showed through in the way that he has been treated. So I wouldn't say it's necessarily his fault, but I think the way he's been treated by his parents over this, which is probably indicative of the way he's been treated generally, he's not an only child, which might explain too much parenting. He's got a sister. So I think that we do need to wonder quite why it's turned out this way. I think he's been portrayed as a sensitive soul. I don't necessarily think that he's immature. I think he's over sensitive. Maybe that's immaturity in some people's eyes. But I think he's really been written as somebody who's quite sensitive to what is happening. Maybe for him, and maybe for his close friends. With Lily, I felt the conversations this week that they had. And Lily was very pushy. I will talk about Lily later on, but with Paul, she was quite pushy about how bad he felt when how he was covering up at the music festival. One of the things that I thought about Denise, I was very irritated that she hasn't come out and told him because it's yet another form of the dishonesty that she's been living with that's been eating her up. I don't see why she wouldn't have told him. As Sue said, why hasn't she told him that she's shagging her boss? Well, in fact, she's shagging his boss as well, which I thought was more to the point than her boss. Her boss, yeah, okay, that's one of the bad part because it's his boss. He's closely involved with these people on an everyday basis. Not only his mum, but Alistair as well. In the last week, we had a lot of conversations between Alistair and Paul that were actually on a very personal level that I have never ever talked to one of my bosses on that kind of personal level. I'd like to keep a distance or I can't say that because I've married the last boss I had. I was going to say that, but you jumped on it. I said it first. But yes, I agree. These situations are always difficult and I don't think that the people involved ever have the perspective to know the right time, to say the right thing, to the right people. So I'm not going to be too critical there. But it's an awkward situation and I agree. The fact that Alistair is Paul's boss, as well as Denise's boss is a complicating factor. But at least we were spared too much of the white hole, far-siding cupboard spit. We only had a little bit of that. And that's now, I suppose it's not yet resolved because until Paul knows about Alistair and Denise, we're still going to have them try to hide the fact from him, which I think is increasingly unwise. Indeed, I couldn't agree more. I think as far as the white hole, far-seat stuff going on, Paul seems to be the last related to the practice that knows. I think it's going to come out as best as it comes out truthfully and honestly from Denise. Yeah, I totally agree with you. Shall we have our next call and this is from a first-time caller in a row and it's Nicola. Hi, Stephen and Jacqueline. It's Nicola, a first-time caller in a row, but I have emailed the show before. I've just listened to today's episode, which is Sunday the 14th of July. And I wanted just to say that I completely agree with Jacqueline's comments about Denise and John in the shop. I didn't like the way John spoke to Denise. I didn't like the comments he made about her eating biscuits. And it made me wonder whether there's a bit of a controlling and coercive element in that relationship that perhaps Paul didn't realize and never saw. Maybe they hid it from him. And I think it'd be really interesting to hear from the character of Cara if she ever comes back from Canada to see if her perception of her parents' relationship is a bit different to that of Paul. So yeah, I think it'd be really interesting to hear how this pans out and I love the show, but I would like to say I have to disagree with Stephen in that I really like shop bought biscuits. But apart from that, I love your show. It's great. I really enjoy listening to it every week and hopefully I shall ring back again another time. Thank you. Bye. Brilliant. Thank you for that. Lovely. Welcome to our lovely band of color in Arizona color. Good to hear from you. Yeah. I'm so glad you agreed with me as well. There's two of us that spotted that. I don't know. Nobody else has ever commented on the fact that I thought that I found him controlling pleasant voice, but a little bit on the controlling side. But maybe I reflected afterwards or another dumb to them and made me reflect afterwards, but maybe just that's the way the dynamic of their relationship works. So maybe she's always been the one that rushes off and he's the one at home. Because do we know what Paul did or does in his life? Apart from writing a bicycle, no. No, I don't know what he does with his leisure time. I know he's got a proof of status for what is that I think men in? Middle aged men in Lycra. I was trying to remember this because I see so many middle aged men in Lycra here. I thought yesterday it was 32 degrees here and a band of middle aged men in Lycra won't pass me. It was always like a miasma of heat. I often try and remember the acronym, but never can. I'm pathetic at those kind of things. So there we go. The last few weeks have been your national festival of middle aged men in Lycra or younger men in Lycra, I guess. Beautiful young men in Lycra. But in fact, on the slopes, especially in the Alps, these last two days, the middle aged men in Lycra, we have it starts at about 11 o'clock, the festival. And so it's live on telly and there are people who've been interviewed and you get people that go, this week, it was on Thursday the way up to Alpe du Es, which is over 2,000 meters. And these poor bloke middle aged men in Lycra arriving at the top of the hill with a camera man on a microphone. You can see these people think, "Oh my God, I've got to speak now." There's definitely a lot of red sweating middle aged men in Lycra, but it is fantastic. And for the first time, of course, it's not finishing on the Shonsalise tomorrow. So it's all very exciting. Of course, here in Sanguen, it's badly timed for us always because it's our village festival of San Mary Madeline. It starts today with a church service and parades. We do the question bit first and then we do the pagan bit. We light a bonfire with fireworks in it on the lake, on the tank, on the village pond. But then tomorrow we've got a big outdoor meal, it's all roasted ham and all the rest of it. And having had very hot weather, the storm is due to break about 6 o'clock this afternoon, about when the parade starts. So you can imagine how it's ever scurrying around, but we will miss the Tour de France final tomorrow. I think you'd probably have more fun if the weather is good with your fireworks and your feasting, rather than just watching. Where are they ending up, niece or something like that? Yeah, so I'd be lovely. They've had some very hot temperatures there. Usually it's getting cooler by the last couple of a tap, but no, this is the last few days. It's been 30 plus there, so poor guys, not surprised at skidney. Shotboard biscuits. We haven't talked about shotboard biscuits even. No, well, I think if ever I get a box of pink wafers, I'll send them in Nicholas direction. Oh yeah, I don't like biscuits in general, but I have to say I'm occasionally partial to a ginger nut. So shotboard or otherwise, there you go. I make my own. Yes, I know you do. There you go. I continue to do so typically oatmeal and raisin with fantastic spicing. Good for you. Anyway, that's fantastic call from Nicola, and I'm sorry we got distracted onto the Tour de France, rather than talking about Cara. Yeah, we didn't talk about Cara. Let's go back to that then. Cara. What do we think about Cara? We don't know much about her apart from the fact that she's off in Canada hiking. So the fact that she's been mentioned means that she might show up or at least be mentioned further, so we might learn more about her. It would be interesting to understand her relationship with Paul. Yes, indeed. Also with her parents, because I think we've got the impression that Denise and Paul have always been close, although John was very sensitive with Paul with a breakup of Etienne. But Cara, maybe she's closer to her dad, maybe she's more her father's personality. We don't really know. Or she may be not close to her parents much at all, hence disappearing off to Canada. And she might have a... She did describe her as independent, didn't she? Exactly, yes. So, you know, I mean, you can never tell with siblings, because you can have twins that are completely different personalities, can't you? Who knows with these things, but I think because we're so intimately involved with the Denise, Paul, Alistair, John, a group of people, it would be good to have Cara to come in as a character. Yes, I think it would be good if she does show up. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Yep, as always. We won't have to wait to hear from Laura. Hi everyone, this is Laura from Bedfordshire on a dog walk with... Well, three things I've been thinking about, really. First one of these is a bit of a rant, I suppose. That's probably a bit strong. But I'm just getting a little bit frustrated with all of these conversations that are happening outside of the episodes when they're quite key. So, I feel like a case in point from this week, just listened to, I think, Sunday's episode. There's the whole conversation between John and Denise. And I don't think Alistair was there with Paul, but, you know, the fact that we just come to Paul at the music first of all, just being like, "Oh, yeah, that conversation's happening when the dad had told me that they're splitting up." And I think I was just reflecting, that's very similar to the conversation. I think Freddie and Vincent Jason had about the meat. Obviously, that came back as well again on Sunday. It just feels like it's quite a repetitive plot approach we're having over the past few months. I didn't mind it once or twice. I'm sure there's another big conversation that's happened in a similar way where we've been really excited about something happening. And then maybe it's just like, "Oh, yeah, that was a chat we had off-camera, off-microphone." But yeah, just, I don't know, just frustrates me a bit. That seems to be kind of something that's being repeated quite a lot to the moment. And then two more fun points. One was, again, we've had another great name with, is it Milo Bronzwick or something for the celebrity chef that's coming to Great Gables? It feels like we could really do a bingo of mad names in Ambridge after Hank and I know there's been a few others. And then finally, I was visiting Torejo for extra on my way home this evening. There was an episode of Poirot, and he was playing Poirot's sidekick. And is it Hargreaves or something? It was only Justin, the actor that plays Justin, and they were investigating the murder for Lady Cool Carlotta. So I hope that isn't a premonition of what maybe to come in the arches. Thanks, bye. Thank you for that call, Laura. The sidekick to Poirot, I think, is Inspector Hastings. Not Inspector's, just Hastings. Just Hastings, right. Yeah, and I think that was Lord Edward Dye's, that one, that I know anything about Poirot's, giving it all away, aren't I? Let's get back to that business about conversations. I suppose the reason we sometimes don't hear the conversation is because we get the discussion of the conversation afterwards and the implications. And it would actually be a bit repetitive to have heard John and Denise talking, and then to hear Denise filling in Paul about the conversation, and then to hear Paul explaining to Lily what happened in the conversation. So they have to cut it back a bit, and at least we saw that that conversation was going on, in that it was observed that them sitting on the bench, the various people commenting on it. And the other conversation you specifically mentioned Laura was between Vince and Jason and Freddy, and I think we heard the beginning of that conversation. We heard Freddy saying that if Jason admitted that he might not lose his job, and then we later learned that he had lost his job. So I suppose the question is, what are we missing by not hearing the actual conversation. And from a script writing point of view, is it more informative to have the conversation, but not the discussion of what flowed from it, or do we actually learn about the conversation from what has come from it. So I think it's a dramatic script writing type of thing that you don't want to repeat everything several times. And I think you find that in novels as well, but you won't have every conversation recorded and then discussed you either hear them and are left to draw your own conclusions, or you don't hear them, but the relevant conclusions are drawn for you. Yeah, indeed. I have to say Laura, I don't think I'm in complete agreement with you because sometimes it's best to have a conversation reported, rather than hearing the the nitty gritty of the whole thing. Although I have to say, the way that they did that with Denise and John on the bench and with jazz and joy reporting on it as a not being able to hear the conversation and then they've been backing courses. I thought that was really well done, but maybe I would have liked to have heard how they'd said to Paul. So I suppose to do agree with you in that extent, but I don't think it's a new thing. I think it's something that's always happened in the archers. It's one of the ways of operating that we have a conversation that goes on often on a Saturday or an event that happens on a Saturday. And then it's talked about for the rest of the week or discussed at length on Sunday or Monday. I think it's due with the episodes. Yeah. The other reason for doing it could be that the characters aren't available for recording. And we had that case. I think it was the funeral. Was it Jenny's funeral when Debbie's appearance at the funeral was heavily discussed. Now she did then show up I think the following week, but we had a lot of that and it was partly because she wasn't available to record that week. And often you'll have people talking about people who weren't there at big events because they can only get a few people in there. So you'll have cricket matches or at the village fate or stuff like that. They will talk about people who were there and conversations that they had. But the reason they don't actually record the conversation is because the actors playing the characters aren't available to be recorded. So that particular thing. Of course Jill and Peggy are still alive and kicking and we will never hear their voices. So I think I don't think that's true Jill. I don't think Patty is retired. I think she's still there. It's just she did we did hear do we did hear a while ago, didn't we? But I think it's far, few and far between. And she is a more elderly member of the cast. Yeah, Peggy's definitely retired, but she's still alive and she's still going on. So that's the one for us to speculate about how will they get rid of her. And of course we thought that Shula had gone silent when she went up to Sunderland. But not only does she come back reportedly, but we actually hear her from time to time. Yeah, we've heard it twice so far maybe or three times. Two visits I think we've heard her. Which is quite surprising but I suppose with her real life husband still being regularly recording. So I'm not sure that together. Oh dear me, I didn't know that. I'm so glad to see that you're on top of the gossets, David. Next up we have Glen. Hello downtown. It's Glen here. I'm calling in on Thursday and I'm able to sit outside to do so because it's such a beautiful summer's evening. I hope there's not too much background noise. Well, I think this week in Lambridge somebody on the production team has been watching the old comedy film Horrible Bosses because all of the bosses in Borsacha have been behaving pretty badly this week. Whether that's a Vince or an Attasha or even Oliver who was pretty short with Lily and wouldn't listen to her concerns about the awful Milo. Talking of Milo, Susan and Neil's and Trace's foraging adventures. I'm afraid they haven't enthused me about doing any foraging myself. It sounded like a good way of getting wet and muddy in a bog. Or as Jasa did, stinging yourself severely on stinging nettles and other such. So I think I will keep my foraging to our local farm shop. Finally this week, I'm wondering if Fallon is a little bit depressed and she didn't sound on great form tonight. And I'm wondering if the fact that she hasn't yet as far as we know been able to talk about her experiences in the crash is now coming through and causing her some difficulties. Well, that's all from me. Have a great week everybody. Stay safe and speak to you again soon and thanks for the podcast. Oh, great. Thanks for that, Glenn. Just to touch on the Fallon story, although I think we'll probably talk about it with a later call who talks about Natasha and the Tea Room set up. Fallon, she was very, on the end of Thursday nights episode, she was definitely very defeated. I think she'd recovered from losing the business to Tom and Natasha and deciding to stay on and run the business, the Tea Room for them. Then there was the crash and then this is yet another sideways blow from Natasha, which I don't, I said, well, you'll hear our opinions later on. But yeah, I know that she's depressed or just generally defeated and depleted by what's happened in her life. What do you think about that? I certainly think that she hasn't had a chance to work through the crash experience, and we saw that very much with her relationship with Harrison. I'm not sure whether it's being consciously echoed in what's going on with Natasha, but it's clear to me that the relationship with Natasha is not working out at the moment. You've always speculated on whether or not she'll head off and take over the tee shot, but the EV charging station, whenever that arrives. I guess that's being delayed because the upgrades to the National Grid in order to provide power for the actual charging stations is a very slow process. And it would be surprising if they could get the thing up and running that quickly. Let's talk about the foraging then. What do you feel about the foraging story? Well, foraging is terribly trendy at the moment. How is it? It is. A lot of top restaurants involving foraged food and chefs going in for this sort of thing. When I was growing up, my parents had a copy of Richard Navy's Food for Free, which is the original 1970s foraging Bible. But it also contained horrible warning us about not just false chonterrels, which I think aren't very pleasant, but probably aren't lethal. But things like destroying angel fungus, which are seriously dangerous and don't look that different from some edible ones. So I was always a bit nervous about these things. And living in North London, it was not that close to good foraging places. Apart from a disused railway line, which is now the Parkland Walk, which is overgrown with brambles, and so blackberries were very much a feature of that. And I think they also had blackthorns, so there was slows to be harvested for making snow gin. So blackberries and slows, definitely. Other things like that for foraging nettles. Well, I don't think it's the right time of year for nettles anyway. But I don't think they're worth the effort. I just tend to take a dislike to them. And meadow sweets. And what was the other one that shouldn't be confused with speed well? Meadow sweet and chickweed. Chickweed. That was it. The other thing that more recently I have taken to foraging when I get the chance is wild garlic. Yeah. Because you can use that in particularly, I think that it makes a very good addition to potato salad. You chop it up and then stick it into the mayonnaise with the potato and you then get a slightly different but suitably garlicky taste. I didn't realise that foraging was such a big business here in France, of course, we were always quite big mushroom collectors and you can take any mushroom you find to the pharmacy and the fire or will be a person in the pharmacy that is tamed to say yay or nay. But the fact that you actually cut it out and taken it and handled it and you've licked your fingers to turn over a page in a book or whatever. It may already be dead, very buttery get there. But if I went to has medical training, they had a whole term at medical school on mushrooms. But despite that, despite the ability, you know, about 300 people suffer from permanent body damage or death from toxic mushroom consumption every year in France. So it just gets to show, I personally wouldn't pick anything from the hedgerows here because everything's so highly sprayed by the farmers and everything. You wash out all the nutrients by the time you scrubbed it clean. But I am very slow too, very slow. I'm very keen on going finding slows when I first lived here. Slows were a big thing and the hedgerows have been decimated, absolutely decimated and I have to go about six or seven kilometers to find an old lane that's got them in. But unfortunately, two or three other people, all English have also discovered where they are. So last year I had to go very early and get them. But there's a job and it's worth doing for Christmas gin. Yes, but you shouldn't go too early. I was always told that you should go to the frost. Yeah, but we've had several years where we've had no frost. So in fact, my parents used to make slow gin when I was young and they used to go and collect them as soon as they were right. Put them in the freezer for a couple of weeks and then you make a slow gym. It's about piercing the skin. So in fact, you can pick them, mature them a bit in the freezer and then stab them all with a cocktail stick and it does the same effect. It's piercing the skin, but it's also breaking down some of the inner cell walls and so forth. And I think the freezing approach is probably the best way to imitate the frost. Also, it's a battle with the birds. Birds like them as well. That's true. So that's just one of the things that Lynn talked about and that was Oliver. We talked a few weeks ago about Oliver and how his character has changed. And it's more stressy than he used to be. He used to be very much a calm influence on everything. And I felt that he was overexcited about Milo, what's it? And very, as Gin said, not a particularly understanding boss about Lillie's concerns. I agree with you. I think that that was an interesting angle that hasn't been developed. And I don't know whether now that Milo has a human being and gone. It will just disappear or whether we will get some knock on effects from his treatment, particularly of the more junior members of the brigade. Yeah, exactly. One of the things that created totally with me in that scene was, or that storyline was that Lillie used the word jerk. Is that correct in British English? I've never heard anybody say jerk before in my life. Yeah, I think so. I think it's really sad. I wouldn't be surprised if I heard somebody describe somebody else as a jerk. Yeah, right. That's current as well, irritating, but current. Yeah, very irritated. There was one other one. I can't remember where I can't remember what it was. I think it was Denise, maybe Denise talking with Paul as well. There was a babe, a babe. 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And next up is the first prepare of Richards. Hello, everybody. It's Richard Beveridge here, before I prop on the Twitters. I do hope you're all well on broadcasting from a 25-degree sunkist, duchy of Lancaster today. On the basis that this week's show was brought to us by poor employee and poor employer performance. We begin with Lily, who snipes at a visiting chef brought in to increased trade. Perhaps Lily, you should remember you're an intern, you're filling in for Roy, and you should perhaps keep your opinions to yourself. We move on to her brother, who just for once is being harassed for doing the right thing. Unfortunately, these bits of corporate bullying will always happen in a situation where someone's perceived to have been the reason for a co-worker being removed from a role for what, in effect, was gross misconduct. I hope that this is good preparation if Freddie decides on a career in some form of primary industry to lead. And then we move to Natasha, who appears unilaterally to have imposed a non-compete clause on Fallon. She's nicked her idea, and she's going to sell it back to her, so considerably less than probably Fallon would get working with Chelsea to organise events like these herself. Classic piece of corporate watch-taking, disgraceful behaviour. I hope Fallon, you'll read your contract, and then tell Natasha to go ahead in yourself. If I'd love to all, especially Philip's dad, Tinkity Tonk. Thank you for that call, Richard. I think we'll leave Freddie to one side, because our final call talks particularly about what's going on at Casey Meats, and I'm going to disagree with you, I think, on Lily. As we discussed earlier, I think that Lily probably has a point about a way that Milo Haywood treated junior members of the kitchen brigade, and it was perhaps wrong all over the brush that under the carpet. In pursuit of celebrity fame and the business that goes with that, I think that we know from various recent news stories that you can have pretty unpleasant people who are celebrities and think they can get away with it. And they do need to be called out, and I think that if it flares up later that Milo Haywood is actually a deeply person, a bully, and so forth. And Grey Gables has been going on about how they have been privileged to have him there. It won't reflect that well on Oliver. So I think it's a bit more balanced than you're suggesting, and yes, Lily may only be an internal temporary worker, although I think they're looking to keep on more permanently. I still think that she had a legitimate role there. Turning to Natasha, yes, totally agree with you there. I think Natasha is moving in. I imagine that there will be a significant impact on how much money Fallon makes. Obviously Natasha will make sure that her costs, her direct expenses are covered, but this will probably end up being part of Fallon's contract with the T-room, rather than somewhere where she can make some extra money by putting in some extra effort. And I suspect that Fallon will be a loser on that, and therefore we will end up with greater resentment. What do you think? Yeah, I agree on the T-room. I think Natasha is being typically Natasha. I found that they've made the home to a deeply unpleasant character. She's grabbing. She wants. She's out. She said that when she was having the conversation with Ruth, who said she said, "I'd love to have someone like Milo come here." And I didn't know it was Ruth that said, "Yes, you could, but you have to pay for it, so your pockets have to be very deep." She said, "Well, not yet. We can't do that." Because she's going places that woman, she's determined how she's managing everything that she does, and with small two-year-olds future, about to be two-year-olds. I don't know. And Tom is silent in a cupboard somewhere. Well, I think Fallon, this is really poor for Fallon as an employee. She's had something taken a ripped away from her again. I think if you're looking for better relations at work with your employees, this is not the way to go about it, Natasha. And then when she turned up on Friday night at Pips, was Pip with Lottie discussing it? Yes. I couldn't quite work out who she was with. But Lottie was all stars in her eyes and glits. Pip was kind of mumbling about, "Oh, what about the budget? What about the budget?" She's already said that they're running out of money as far as the budget is concerned. And then 2020 quid for takeaway heat robes or something? Yeah, 20 pounds for a robe, and I think they're awesome. Yes, that's 140 pounds. But they did suggest that they each paid for their own robe. Yeah, I don't know. My eldest daughter, Sophia, has done a lot of this in her mid-30s. She's done a lot of this going to hen do's and things, and she has described some of the things. And she said, "You've just got to go with the flow. If that's what the bride or the bride's friends are organizing, you've just got to go with the flow, and sometimes it costs you money." So I did think about that, but I didn't quite know why Pips got so involved with Lottie's organization for the Ukrainian girl. So we never quite thought that explanation, did we? No, I think I've read a number of horror stories, mostly from America, about brides wanting their bridesmaids or maids of honor, or whatever they want to call them, to contribute a couple of thousand pounds for the costs of the hen do and things like that. My goodness. And you have to buy a dress on top of that, pay for your own dress, pay for all these things. Otherwise, you're not considered to be part of the bridal party. And it does seem that the whole business of weddings is still ridiculously over-inflated. I think that there will be a crash at some point, I'm surprised it hasn't happened, and a realization that actually the marriage is more important than a wedding. Yeah, maybe. I don't think that message has got to cost looking at some of the things that my children have gone through with their friends. Just on the point of nobody's called in about Pip and Stella this week, and we've seen a lot of backwards and forwards between them this week. So, I'm wondering whether all these hen parties are pointing back to also the kitten. These differences between Pip and Stella are becoming more and more flagrant. They are becoming more obvious, and there are the constant references to Rosie, and I think that Rosie is going to be the biggest fly in that particular ointment. And I think that it's Pip's expectations of the balance between time spent with Rosie and time spent with Stella that's going to be the most frustrating for Stella. And I think that Pip will be blind to it, and Stella will probably be too nice to point it out enough, and it will then need to trouble. But I do think that they are destined for the longer term, and I think that is going to be the future of Brookfield. And I think that it's just that I can't, I don't like Pip, I'm afraid to say it. I don't like to say I don't like these characters, but I really can't cope with her, and I felt that she was weadling and needling this week, and then to be all enthusiastic for this hen party and all the doings with that. And then to bring into the conversation marriage to Stella, I felt that it was a very dodgy ground, really, for a relatively new relationship. I know that you do discuss things with people when you first get together with them, but I don't know, I felt that it was very annoying to me this week. But what are the alternatives? Ben is clearly not interested at all. And Josh and Nina, I don't think that Josh is a stable enough person. Fiddling, yes, fiddling, not farming. Yes, exactly. But that was good, but I think that's the first time we've known Josh to have an adult-ish evening. Even if by adult-ish evening, you mean going off and spending the night with... Yeah, I suppose that's what I was trying to avoid saying "shacking", but okay, we'll go down to it. He's very happy apparently, you know, if silent about it. I think that's probably a good point to move to our final call. Good morning, good night everyone, calling in from Tony Crete, Richard here, obviously. Do we know where Freddy is in the organisation chart at Casey Meets? And I think he must have been given some energy or resources for this, but if he has, then he would have been trained on how to deal with this and lead new employee onboarding at the company. Obviously, issues like treating their workers with respect wouldn't be their treating managers with respect. But if he is a manager, he's got to have hiring, firing, responsibilities and things like disciplinary notes to go. So, behaving like that would have been very much on the cards. That's one thought. Second thing is I was worrying a little bit about Alina's visa status since April this year. If you want to get a suppose visa in the UK, you'll suppose it has to be only over 29,000 pounds a year. And I just wonder whether Alina's future, and assuming her future UK husband to be, has the financial way with her to keep her in the country. Or maybe it's just going to be like Bulgaria women's are special. Amber is a visa department and all the requirements are right. Didn't have to go to her again to be waived for Alina as well. Glad to hear the choices. So, you know, for a mobile addressing business, I was pondering with how much you need to be on the pair of scissors to do that. It's not exactly as if she needs to buy her chainsaw. So, what is the budget to go into a mobile addressing business? And I wonder who's going to be her business mentor. I doubt she's going to have as many risks associated with her business as the chainsaw people do. Bye. Oh, thank you for that, Richard, calling in in the middle of the night. Yes, Freddie. I think when he was brought in by Vince, I know you'll know him, correct me if I'm wrong, Stephen, but what's he brought in to do from the ground level? I seem to think that Vince said to him, you're going to be a management trainee, but you need to understand the business from the ground level. So, it wasn't one of his first jobs actually pushing burrows and a meat around and stuff like that. Yes, he definitely was a management trainee. And I think that the experience he's going through at the moment is the management training. It's training by being on the job and doing it. And so, that's why Vince is so keen for him to work it out rather than for some HR department to come in and sort stuff out. Vince's philosophy of management, to the extent that he has a philosophy of management, is that you learn by doing, you gain the respect of your people. And if you have their respect, they will do what you say, rather than waving the organizational chart in people's faces and saying, "This person is your manager, therefore you do what they say," because in an organization like an abattoir, I just don't think that culture works, and I think that you do need to have the respect. I think he perhaps could be a bit more alert to the way that Freddie is going about this, because maybe Vince has this idea that Freddie found a way of getting on while he was in prison and could bring that same sort of understanding of how you operate within a hierarchy to this business. But I don't think Freddie is in that sort of position, so it's going to be difficult for him. Yeah, I agree. But there must be some kind of... In fact, Vince, when he talked, when he was talked at by Lily on Friday's episode, he definitely said, "Well, this is the way I learned the job and learned to handle people in an abattoir. I was there, and I am now at the top. I managed to do it." Lily had a certain way of talking to him, which I found was very, very aggressive and not at all helpful to Freddie, and not at all helpful to her relationship with Vince, which kind of surprised me, because up until now, I thought that Lily was someone who was more diplomatic than that, but maybe it was showing that she'd been wound up by the circumstances of the Tetche chef and seeing it from another side and being protecting her brother. But Freddie had very definitely told us, "Keep your nose out. I'll deal with it." And then she still went for it, and she was Vince behind Freddie's back in the kitchen. She did, and I agree that was her being protective of her brother, and I'm not sure how helpful it will be in the long run, but it's just the way she is. I wanted to pick up on Elena and her visa. The short answer is there is a special scheme. If Elena came in under one of the Ukrainian refugee schemes and is here for longer than six months, I think that she could have been here on a sort of three-year arrangement, then she's exempted from a number of the requirements about visas for getting married. She doesn't need to apply especially for a different route in. So she can get married, and once she's married, she can then go through the normal passport citizenship that you're entitled to do when you're married. So I don't think even that financial limit applies in her situation. So I do think that that's all fine, and the fact that she's Ukrainian rather than Bulgarian does make a big difference. Yeah, very interesting, but thanks for being those subjects up. And one final subject. Yes, Chelsea. Chelsea. So what does Chelsea need? Well, she definitely needs a pair of scissors and probably several pairs of scissors and other bits of cutting equipment. Yep, races. She'll need hair straighteners, curlers, waivers, hair dye, hair dryer. Well, in fact, products, hair products. Now, most hairdressers have to get by. They tend to buy bulk by products. So you have a lump of cash to go to a cash and carry and buy products from coloring to chemicals for perming and all those kind of things. As you can see from my very straight locks, I've never done anything like that nor coloring. So I guess you haven't steering either. I haven't had locks for a while. I did it in my youth. I used to occasionally put henna in my hair, but that was as far as I went. She'll also need an apron. She'll need to protect it. What's the biggest thing she'll need? What's the biggest thing she'll need? She'll need a big lemon to drive this stuff around and she'll need towels and she'll need all kinds of other stuff like that. She'll need quite a lot of equipment and it's all costly to set up. But saving for making extra money. It's going to be the biggest outlet in March for my point of view is a vehicle. She'll need a vehicle that's a reliable vehicle because she'll be having appointments around the county, not just walking in an ambush with everything in a bag because she couldn't put a hairdryer and all the rest of it. And I think they've got heat. When they put people, they do streaks and things in people's hairs. I've seen it at my hairdressers where I go for about 20 minutes, every six or seven weeks. People spend hours there with foil on the hair with a heat thing around it. A hood, yes, and so she'll need either... They're not even that hub thing. They've got these kind of infrared fire things that sit behind them and heat up their foiled covered hair. Yes, so more than just a pair of scissors. Do we think she'll get business advice from some other people? She's just on a hairdressing course, hasn't she? Yeah, I'm sure that it's covered in her course. So she will be... I'm giving this some reference. Yes, exactly what I was going to say. I don't think she'll be going to Justin, Elliot, and he won't be getting free haircuts for life. There we go. Maybe mobile catering services run by Fallon and mobile hairdressing run by Chelsea is the way forward because we're wondering what's ever going to happen. You've got a theory about the EV charging station. Yes, we shall see. We have a mobile food business already in the shape of Ian's pizzas. I'd forgotten all about that. Yeah, but it's not the same pizzas and Fallon's special keyshows can't make any comparison. Maybe Chelsea and Ian should get together and use the same vehicle. Oh, I could just imagine a hair pizza? All those little bits. I don't believe a hairdresser ever gets rid of all those tiny little bits that are left in your pizza van. Have we covered all the calls there, Stephen? That is all the calls. And thank you so much for everybody you called in. 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Unlike some of the characters in Ambridge that we know and love, and in particular this week, plenty of our ever-consistent dumpty-dummers are up in arms about the usually sterling stellar. And what on earth has happened to the woman we first met? Living McCarthy said, "So now that Denise, Alistair, and John Triangle has been resolved, will Stella's crisis of confidence become the next boring storyline? I'm already bored with it." And as Stephen said, "It's as if they're eclipsing her strength and self-belief. It's completely ridiculous." Kate Lyell also bemoaned the apparent absence of the Stella we once know and loved. Yet another strong, independent, capable woman turned into a gibbering idiot by the script writers and producers. On the other hand, Paul is someone who we thought have been a bit of a gibbering mess this week after revelations of his parents' separation. He kind of seemed fine about it all. Perhaps because he doesn't know the full story. And also his employers are very generous. As Deborah Green reflected, "Do me or do the employees at level James have the most ridiculous holiday and steady leave allowance?" Denise, at yet another conference last week, not long after her Spanish holiday. Surely there are other devices to have people moved out of the way for certain conversations to take place? I fear for the animal folk of Ambridge. Their veterinary service is barely ever fully there. On an animal theme, we've got to turn to Freddy and Snoutgate. Whilst the veterinary practice sounds all warm and cuddly, the abattoir is unsurprisingly far from welcoming. Chris Gibson finds the whole situation painful and wants to get Freddy out of the abattoir. Raffy J responded, "Vince is not helping at all." Freddy went with his concerns and was largely ignored. I get Vince's point about not making friends, but even so, I suspect an accident is going to happen. Talking of accidents, the foraging story. Oh my goodness, while weak. Got many of us wondering if something non-edible might have been consumed. Chris Herbert thought there could be a sickness outbreak at Go Gables. Ruth Adwell that they might pause and Martha by mistake, and Jane Dudley all so awed would just hope no one ends up dead on one dialysis. Well, this really was an odd week. Here's hoping it's preamble to some proper drama next week. In the meantime, I'm off to look for that run to the litter that someone may just have guilt-tripped their girlfriend into adopting. Our kitten is for life after all. Charlie. Thank you, Rachelle. I thank you so much to everyone on the Dump To Dump Facebook group. If you'd like to join them, please do, but don't forget to answer all the membership questions so that we know that you're a real person. If anybody out there would like to write as a review, please do. There's a link to instructions on how to do this in the show notes. 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This week on both Twitter and Blue Sky, a lot of people were complaining about the mere state of the current storylines. Why are we supposed to care about the hen party of someone we've never heard of? Is it to show up Stella and Pip's relationship and Pip's movement towards a proposal? Or is it just another opportunity for Natasha to behave awfully to her staff? As Miranda @HappellAndroid@noted, who gives a flying duck about this ridiculous hen for someone we don't know and have never heard of? Shades of the equally ludicrous battle of the silent longest drinker in the bull. And what was the point of the foraging storyline? If it doesn't result in at least one fatality asked Brian holding @buggyswires and bury me at sea @LCtroubshaw. Meanwhile, Georgina @theright noted that the storyline wasn't even accurate, because nettles are not generally eaten at this time of year, a meadow sweet has gone over and most has set seed. Yes, the tweet along is providing its own countryside advisor when the archers don't do a story justice. What is the point of an awful new chef if it isn't for Lily to cop off with him? Little Kim was @littlekim was offering odds on Milo and Lily being in bed by the end of next week, and was Lily right to tell Vince about employment law as Steffy Ead @mumoffatcassie suggested, or was let love win at all this and less right that she would only make matters worse. We await the denouement of some of these storylines with not quite baited breath, so now to this week's medals for blue sky skates and ex-posts, all of which we continue to consider as Tweets of the Week. In bronze position, it's Laura Davis at Laura Davis 24. How about a hen party with real hens? Maize Josh hasn't been approached. The silver medalist is Chris Burrell at K. Burrell-Mime 1968. Chelsea and Fallon had pretentious. I miss the days when the archer's characters had proper traditional rural names like Shuler and Kenton. And the gold medal goes to Wendy Jane, @wendyjame.bsky.social. Stella is not a cat person and is not really a pit person either, in my opinion. And on that pessimistic note, that's it for this week. I hope to see you all on #TheArchers on Twitter or Blue Sky next week. Thank you for that Theo, and congratulations to all who are mentioned in this week's round-up. Don't forget we're also on Instagram, @dumtydum, where we're starting to get a bit more active. And on that note, please send any of the archers or podcast relevant photos to the Dumty Dum email, and we will publish them with credits to you. Dumtydum@mail.com. We will be back once again next week and recording at our normal time of crack of dawn on Saturday morning. So please get your calls in by midnight on Friday, UK time as usual. 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