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Dum Tee Dum Episode 77 – Nigel – Graham Seed
Nigel’s voice returned to our ears as Graham Seed joined our DTD hosts. Lucy’s monologue concentrated on the mystic powers of ginger biscuits which had circulated among the Ambridge residents this week.
Lucy beautifully questioned Graham who commented that Nigel was a rounded character that involved a lot of his own personality and then replayed his own death scene and murder at the hand of David. As for Lizzie dallying with Trade! There remains huge public recognition of the loss suffered as well as the resulting publicity. The influences of William Smethurst and Mary Wimbush were mentioned as was Tim Beecham.
Millie Belle is in the USA meeting TA/DTD correspondents.
Watch out for dumtee d’infants taking over the world.
Kosmo in a very wet Sicily
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- Duration:
- 1h 2m
- Broadcast on:
- 28 Sep 2015
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Nigel part of the aka Graham seed whoo and the last part of our flower and project show is you folks now today's dumpty-dum is from Harry Clark and we especially liked his dumb a lee da wasn't that kind of the slight didn't that just warm your cockles of your heart it was gorgeous but I've been singing dumlee da he just throw himself into it with such gusto it was fabulous now I reckon we should start a little chapter of under 12 dumpty-dum does what you call it Lucy sorry to point you on the spot dumpty-dimphants dumpty-dimphants yeah brilliant so Harry Clark is our first dumpty-dimphant did I say that right yes oh cool right smashing and if you want to join the dumpty-dimphants bearing in mind I've just made the word up I don't think there is a right way to pronounce this at all if you want to join wack us an email type communication and we'll put you on the roster so dumpty-dimphant number one Harry Clark we salute you you're awesome now Lucy can you remind our listeners how they win the accolade of dumpty-dum around the week they slowly start to back up again now good we've got there's a there's an awesome one coming for next week fabulous um if you'd like to sing us a dumpty-dum give us a pluck prediction or twist your marrow ring us on 0 2 0 3 0 3 1 3 1 0 5 or leave us a message on twist your marrow yes that reminded me of the happy monday twist your lemon yeah melon man oh that was it melon man okay thanks to lovely champerages for her amazing courses at Cosmo for watching this is 1990 no I haven't me it was bad enough I want to there's no way I want to experience it again um to Cosmo for his podcast round-ups and to Sarah Smith for sponsoring us thanks also to Derek for learning the back bedroom Derek has been baking for the flour and produce he went for the category my favorite bedtime treat and he entered a custard tart but that got him disqualified sadly sorry I was drinking my coffee I need his packet out of the computer you see yeah what happened in 1990 I don't know what do you mean oh for me yeah oh no it was just university and all that melon king it wasn't very good oh I love that period of my life did you even though I got kicked out of college year well I suppose that technica was 1991 but you know great had too much fun but anyway people don't want to hear about me blathering on about my life because on this week's episode we have questions for Graham from Glenn Fuller of Chris Lowes Mary Knuck contrary RNG mid-miss city ro roses Liz Perschel Sean Harris and Miss Alliance amongst others but first before we get to the Graham seed interview it's Lucy V Freeman's week in average we started the week in bed with Peggy Woolley and her cat well the prime minister's at it so why not Peggy bill the cat joined in the general efforts to sabotage anti-cardboards ginger flipping biscuits which had the taste and consistency of diaphragms according to the judges but they put it more pleasant yes it was the flour and produce show you see the world may be going to hell in the hand cart but gods in his heaven and all's right with the world as long as we still have the flour and produce show what kind of a person works in a dairy making cheese and has hummus and carrot in her sandwiches Helen titular that's who tichinob is creeping on about the adoption and has suggested a weekly evening of row hypnol and sexual assault for Helen which she described rather hesitantly as a lovely idea he also reminded her with his merry little chuckle about the livestock pen that he never mentioned and she never agreed to the more rob uses the word darling the worse the idea is he's proposing have a bloody ginger nut rob and i hope you choke Susan apologized to Peggy Woolley in a rather backhanded gesture of kindness saddled her with yet more ginger biscuits or mid-ginges as she rather distastefully called them they wonder they had a funny texture I mean well that house is going on the market and Ruth has chucked all her belongings out and taken them to the charity shop are you not supposed to do that after the house is sold is poor Heather Pet not allowed to bring anything with her to brookers or is her room full of pictures of hooty-jill start staring reproachfully at her from every wall hooty-jill is still kicking up a fuss about moving into her daughter stately home Elizabeth sweetened the pill by help fully pointing out that she could pick up a cup of coffee and walk about with it if she liked whoo there's fancy toby with the supreme arrogance of well toby really has decided that the weevil that weevles was never good enough for fair brethren geese anyway and he is not bothered at all at the prospect of 492 three-foot tall obese geese roaming hollow tree overturning the caravan and drinking special brew rex talked about toby lying on his bed listening to britney spears really maybe this hooray henry stallion business is a cover and he's much more up charlie thomas is culvert toby started talking entirely in three word cliches now wait and see watch and learn business's business piss right off to commemorate grace archer falling off a roof onto a burning horse virginia mckenna in her safari suit as hester came to visit carol toboggan she was slightly muddled peggy said hester was in the first stages of some kind of memory loss first stages she was mad as a badger but then who can blame the poor woman coming to ambridge for such a small place she said there is an awful lot of names and faces and they all sound the same it would make anyone question their sanity head out hester love they all went for a pissed-up lunch at grey gables virginia muck hester tied her lion to the chair leg and they all started reminiscing about killing people's husbands inspector horse and mickle musgeese i felt a bit like poor hester by the end of it as i wasn't entirely sure what was going on but it was all quite jolly jenny darling popped her flapping beige macon and went marching off to investigate the sinister murder of the man with the terminal disease she is desperately seeking a pink panther to her cluzo she tried lillian who was recovering from eating probiotic mashed lentils for a week and who therefore was not in the most open of mood to listen to the crack pot paranoid fantasies of a woman who's got nothing better to do and wisely told she was barking mad she then had a crack at peggy who'd stupidly told that virginia muck hester had said carol had bumped off john and got a ginger biscuit up the nose for her trouble and finally with its customary entirely misguided but pleasingly gung-ho spirit the village has decided to rebuild the hall itself bung a few of anti-cardboard spikies in the foundations and it'll be good for another hundred years this was suggested by eddie who did a brief segue into reminiscing about challenge anika which would have completely baffled a huge section of the international audience i'd imagine eddie got a rousing chair well we've had some good times in that village all said eddie shuler agreed well she's had some good times up against the bins behind it anyway so what did we learn this week always twist your marrow and always carry a signed photo vanika rice about with you as you never know when it might come in handy the end oh i enjoyed it this week well done lucy thank you right field i like all those little ginger biscuit little lines that you did it was sponsored by ginger biscuit limited of uk this week wasn't it it was a bit crackers a crackers biscuits they wave us i just love the more the more seriously said me ginger's it just kept making me laugh me ginger i love a ginger me you can have too much of them though can you yeah you can you can you know i'm actually going to go out and buy a pack i haven't bought a package in janets in a long time but no no i do like them do like it was a kid i mean my name is kate my name is joe my name is nikala my name is susan harky me my name is mary parkinson i'm in hope house as a client um i have had addiction issues um i hope as um i was inclusion in eating disorder heroin, crayon, addiction, brain tract, methadone, alcohol i mean because it got really bad at long last a thousand and one conversations is available to download from itunes and all good podcatchers this was a place where women worked to help other women as an adult you kind of appreciate them though don't you right now um this is where the podcast becomes uh a bit like blind spirit do you want to know why? why? oh because we're we're we're it's lazarus isn't it? we are revitalizing the dead you know mixing your metaphors yeah i'm sorry right but yeah okay so we are going to be clairvoyant or like jesus at resurrecting the dead because we have the wonderful lovely graham seed a voice from amberji's past i just wanted to to to say really that growing up for me growing up and listening Nigel was one of the um i sort of thought having a boyfriend would be like having a Nigel oh you are sweet somebody who goes leaping in and out of other people's beds in and we're listening to that well you did all that but you know there were so many mothers and girls who said um but also girls said oh my mother wants me to find a boyfriend like you like Nigel yeah and um what you said is um it makes me feel a total phony because i mean i'm obviously not as nice as Nigel but Nigel was an all-time good guy and it's quite hard to make a good guy popular because it's it's much better having a boo here but i mean yeah he had an extraordinary effect on older women who used to talk to their daughters yeah but but i'm glad that you quite fancied him i mean i remember when i joined the program and he was huge when william smithers i owe everything to william smithers by the way nothing to Vanessa Whitburn except she did bring me back but um william smithers created a character that was at the time in Thatcher Britain that here was a Tory who was a really nice guy yeah yeah and that's quite an achievement well he was a bird he was too wasn't he exactly he was slightly out of time he he represented a sort of an Edwardian England he had a sort of a sense of no bless oblique and he sort of galloped around the countryside you know just spreading spreading bon on me because really he had nothing to lose you know yes he said it wasn't awfully good at work he was always getting into i was like you know do you remember mr snowing yes i do yeah and um an ice cream salesman i loved it because he used to call mr mrs archer oh hello mr archer um can i just come in for cup of tea and they all loathed him thought oh god and then i'm with the poor parents he got off with both the daughters and very nearly filled one day oh yes he got it he helped out that was a wonderful scene to report um and and actually you're making me think time flies back he was such fun because i knew nothing about the archers i'd been doing a burn at yorklet at the Birmingham rep and uh you have to be at the right place the right time and and i saw through myself into it and and i mean my wife thinks i am Nigel still really it was it was very difficult when he was killed off because um i mean people call me Nigel yeah it was interesting as well at the moment a lot of our listeners complain about when you i don't know i'm sure you um well i'm not sure that you you listen at all i don't much no at the moment we have five new five four or five new male young male characters and they have to spend the whole time saying each other's names because otherwise no one has a flippin clue who they are because their voices are so similar yeah i mean the wonderful thing about soap is at the radio is that in the old days and i'm not going it was better then because i think the script right is doing a wonderful job and it's so hard uh but um everyone knew what Jill and um and nelson sounded like i sounded like and Tim sounded like the voices were very distinctive but who does Michael Cotton pay he sounds a bit like someone else sometimes oh um Oliver Stirling yes yes yes he sounds a bit like um Charles Collinwood at time yes yeah and um well what was so unique about Nigel that he was the only Shire aristocrat that the program has hmm i had a lunch with Sean O'Connor um but yeah when he took over and uh he said that there is a huge void and uh he would never have got rid of Nigel because you there are rich people and like the Aldrich's and other people but they're new money yes absolutely and Nigel didn't have any money but he had this pad call they were Loxley and i don't know how Lizzie can still live there and every time she opens the front door she must note the spot yes or her dead husband don't sweep up there did come it's quite right but no i mean i'm gonna stay light with this interview but but but so you know i mean um you must have just have incredibly mixed feelings because i missed it enormously and the worst thing is that i can quite understand um no actor has a job for life uh but instantly i was told that i have i thought that i mean that they said i would never get rid of Nigel you know why do you get rid of Nigel well it was it was very cynical um the 60th anniversary it was like grace which is of course we're all reading about um the grace well i assure you i didn't ask for any more money no i i was i'm an incredibly professional actor who do you rise in 28 years i never was even a minute late for a recording or a call you know yeah i'm always half an hour early everywhere and that kept going you know and um it was a huge shock but all you got to do is pick yourself up and um um i took it on the chin i mean you know i mean we carry on i'm convinced in the back of my mind that i mean Nigel is still there and um he can come back in another guys the Tim Bentink suggested i should go on twitter when i fell off the roof yeah and within 24 hours i had 15 the oh what at least 1500 followers yeah and now i've got i've got many i don't know it's about it's more than that now you know that did they pick up on this advert about you know me um we're coming on you know yes yeah well that's nice well that says it really doesn't it yeah absolutely and i had over i had yeah i had one million two hundred emails from people who's various from steven fry to the bishop of london um you know wishing me well the saddest thing was the the sweet handwritten cards for lots of their ladies who were so angry and i opened everyone every handwritten thing i i think the BBC should have paid for the stamps but they didn't offer you know what the BBC is like i'm just very happy for the memories really he was a very rounded character and i did throw a north lot of my own personality and i mean i in the old days i used to throw in ideas and um and say oh Nigel do this Nigel do that you know great um i think why people loved Nigel so much and mourn his passing still is that he was a distinctive character with a distinctive voice how much of you is in Nigel well are you completely different people and you were just playing a role could for example you played jazza mccreary working man of the people you're joking i got i wish there's a lot a lot of me in Nigel i got the sent away at amateur boarding through age seven but an unhappy child never quite fitted in yeah there's a lot i threw a lot of my own personality in and um no of course i couldn't play a working class hero no no i play i play lots of people in the theater who were who were called earnest or gerald or Nigel very 1930s or first world war and you've never done a craze then or a dean no no i haven't no but um thank you Paul i think you probably i think Paul probably knew the answer to that i think he did yes i have a range but um i think that two of our listeners mel parker and car Jonas jennison said yo handsome sorry said um can to to make sure that you are you could you please scream for us as you did going off the top of lower looks like are you ready for that yes yes we're all braced hang on i think i can just reach it david i'm all right that was spectacular gosh that takes back memories golly it's a bit like the um there was a wonderful sketch with um handcock and it's called the bowmans and they killed him off yes and he refused to die and there was a moment that i wanted to say in everybody i think i'm all right no you're not Nigel stamp all right i've got to go stamp yes and i think you're really not stamps on my on my fingers so i had to let go hello dumpty dum and hello lovely Nigel can you hear about echo it's because my new kitchen is far grander than jenny darlings i'd like you to know that i loved you so kind and gentle and sweet if a little off with the fair is at times and i was appalled when you are so brutally murdered by your brother-in-law let's call it what it is shall we i'd like to know whether you have any plans to come and haunt your wife and warn her away from any future bounders named according to cockney riling slang or perhaps you're still in the shower i do hope so when you know i'm absolutely convinced that Nigel does haunt her his spirit is low a loxley and he's there on every corner a listener sent me a play about the ghost of Nigel and Nigel will never allow lizzy to meet another man not that they're voxley i'm absolutely certain about that what did you think about the um the roy affair uh well i knew it wouldn't last hmm i was a bit like oh lizzy what are you doing with trade for heaven's sake but the people we pay i think Nigel he certainly turned in the grave a bit there i think we all did even though he was still alive we're spinning like tops there was another i she had a dalliance with a teacher well you know one of freddy's teachers if to come yeah and and Nigel really worries about the children actually hmm as an actor i was mortified i didn't just met them and i wasn't allowed to say goodbye to them oh really and it was terribly cruel because um i only had a month of them being cast and um i wasn't allowed to say look i'm being killed off so i never say goodbye but we wrote letters um we've had so many people saying i can't read out everybody that said i can't believe we lost Nigel he's so missed and blah blah blah but you'll you're in a very nice way you're gonna have to take that as red because yes well absolutely bless them i mean nor can i sometimes you know because i mean they still talk about Nigel and and i i don't have to really say anything because because all the listeners say that it was it was a terrible thing to do really don't they yes yeah they really and it it didn't really work really um they all say unkindly all you listeners say it should have been helling but i i didn't want to take i didn't want to put her either you know you know we have a long list of people that we would ideally love to shut off the roof um but i don't want to go there but yeah yes i mean you know um and so many people say why didn't Nigel survive the fall and be in a wheelchair hmm it's no good discussing this we have to speak to Sean and just and just you know and persuade him to bring back Nigel's long lost brother yes identical twin who he mentioned which we never knew about and spread the word that's your job okay Sean Harris said that he's a very recent uh listener to the archers and you you died before he started listening oh yes tell tell me everything i need to know about Nigel in three sentences he's the only real aristocrat in ambridge yep rightest of chaps but a well-meaning man fun and courteous who absolutely adored his wife lizzy and i hope no one ever calls her lizzy because no one should call her lizzy except for Nigel no one of the lovely things about Nigel was that when you meet men who say oh i adore all women it generally means i am a groping git but oh yes Nigel genuinely did seem to he loved the company of women he was equally happy talking to Jill as he was talking to lizzy that's very that's very perceptive you know the program which as you know i remember i mean i've even seen on the roof before Nigel um but died he was talking about women have always been important in my life i thought my mother i adored mrs archer and and you lizzy and um yeah he was as courteous to clarry grandi as lizzy really in a way yes and i mean his final triumph and the panto yeah when he was he was dressed in drag you know yeah um as one of the ugly sisters it's unusual i mean he he was a good sort and and over his last few years i think he was put on a back burner but because Vanessa obviously had other storylines but he he had less than us to do which was a bit frustrating really it was very nice when kenton came back to see their sort of connection and him them sort of mischievously egging each other on to do more and more like the party on the island and all that sort of thing oh yes that's right and yeah richard atley is a a great chamomine and and i used to love his he's because in a way richard who took over from Nigel had a feed with um jack may and and when jack died there was something lost there yeah but there's there's wonderful episodes in the 80s in which Nigel was bored and he used to pour his heart out in nelson's wine bar yes and they used to talk about life in a very old-fashioned way and nelson was the father that Nigel never had yeah yeah gosh one reads a lot into soap but but but i did then because um the program changed i mean of course the program changes every time there's a new editor but the legacy of william smetherst was he made it um you believed you were somewhere in in borsicher very strongly and and of course it was a different society then and uh and they weren't mobile phones for a start which might be very difficult most isn't it you know i'm just popping in for a cup of tea people used to say they still do it is one of the things that we that we that we noticed that everybody drives everywhere to see people rather than just ringing them up which would be you know yeah i mean i was partly responsible for casting mary windbush because i'd done a radio with Vanessa actually and um but there were that there were rumors that i was i was going to have a mother cast and i said why didn't we ask mary because she's such a great actress and i love her you know yeah they had a wonderful relationship with mary well everybody probably did but um us was a very close bond you know i could not imagine anybody better playing Nigel's mother but she was such a good actress she made herself sound as if now she liked a gin and a cigarette yeah and again i mean she was that generation of radio actresses who who really understood radiodrama and the relationship between her and louis and and Nigel sort of trying to keep out of the way of them oh louis is he still around louis well we're not quite sure he's another one we've decided that ambridge now has more disappeared than chili under pinish i'm sure i'm sure i'm you know poor and louis i mean it was always a great joy but we only saw him once or twice a year oh no he's like the gardener that never was yeah any more questions from yes does the gorilla suit still fit rosies wants to know but if i'm honest i'll say i'm i'm now a 36 waist and when i came back from the um Tory the conservative ball and i wore it that was my entrance in the program i was probably a 32 waist if if Nigel has morphed into Graham or Graham has morphed into Nigel that was when you were carousing with Tim Beecham wasn't it oh yes oh yes i used to get very drunk with Tim Beecham Tim Beecham ever i don't remember ever hearing him was he a silent yes he was a silent i think he was cast once okay but um he was he was a great silent character i was always late he led me astray i finished up in prison you were like Bertie Worcester but without jeeves rescuing you we're just left floundering by yourself weren't you there was a wonderful moment it was passed all across the country Nigel Pargeter is innocent okay free the free the lower Locksley one Miss Midsity said does the fact that it was such a memorable death it was our our grace moment does that make up in any way for the fact that Nigel is no more oh yes if you if you have to go out i think um we'll go out with a bang right or a splat in your case or a splat and um well the publicity was welcomed yeah um and um i think the worst thing is to just disappear or not get booked and then well i mean like um you know the character we talked about and and just slowly vanish yeah because an actor thinks as you know i mean all actors in the archers all they really care about is have i got new bookings because it's it's the world of the free rights actor at the end of every month when you're waiting to hear if you're whether you're in your running era Pilates era or yoga era dive into peloton workouts that work with you from meditating at your kids game to mastering a strength program they've got everything you need to keep knocking down your goals no pressure to be who you're not just 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their partner to commit to the work of couples therapy if this tough kind of scenario intrigues you it's time to consider getting trained in discernment counseling a field tested research based protocol for mixed agenda couples give your clients the clarity they need visit discernment counseling.com/pod today if you've got your bookings and it's it's always the family will play and as a freelance actor you're um thinking um it's always when it's quiet in the world of theater and television you think i hit the artist have some bookings for me next month and it's sod's law that they haven't i was terribly sad that the time that i left after recording the final episode and giving back my book car park pass and my power is most horrible feeling because um as i was then um but to watch the verdict of my own death you know which was a very very weird feeling it was like reading your own order it was like reading your own obituaries yeah but but to answer the question at least i went out with a a lot of publicity and uh and the business was very good to me and i immediately was offered some very nice um theater work but um that that was four years ago well never it was about five years ago in 2010 or 11 wasn't it i can't remember that i got i'm focused on dates but all i all i knew was that it was so quick and i couldn't really say goodbye to anyone which was really unfortunate you know it was not my decision if an actor makes a decision that's sad and and that has happened hasn't it? I think we've lost we've lost clarry and and we've lost mutoni yeah and kim who plays mac Crawford oh has he gone to yes um and that is their decisions but i mean but to gain maximum publicity for the program i don't plan for that that they had to kill off someone who would who would really stir up a lot of um press coverage which it did so it worked isn't it for terms so you with the sacrificial lamb sort of thing that's really i think so yes oh it's a combination of all of those um it's it's part of the team and it's an extraordinary program the archers because it goes on on forever see you're young with people i mean i miss Trevor so much yeah but never Harrison i miss Terry um uh but because we grew up together we got married to get you know when we go through life and death and then divorce and practically i mean i thought that would be my pension yeah and it's the money yes well just just the consistency the regularity of work i suppose absolutely and i could always work i mean thank goodness i've always worked in the theatre yeah i've always done at least a show a year um i tread it rather and and i never hundred percent committed myself to the archers but you don't have to and you can't everyone has to do other things and and i have always loved um the theatre and and cameras and things but i miss radio enormously um and i mean the funny enough i i'm the BBC haven't i haven't been offered any other radio except i do what the papers say on sunday night hello it's Glenn here um and i've got a question for Graham seed uh Graham is an churchman after grace archer died returned as an actor to the archers some years later but in um a completely different role and playing completely different characters if you are offered the same chance would you take it and what sort of character would you like to play well i'd be very thrilled i mean um i mean because i i like to think i'm quite a good actor i can be a different personality um you could come back and marry lizzy again well i know we've we've discussed that i mean there's always Nigel's brother isn't there the long-lost brother or we could stretch as far as a cousin you know yeah i mean Graham sounds like Graham but as you say we need distinctive voices in the program absolutely and um and they would have forgotten how Nigel sounds i would never say no to anything of course i miss it and of course i was very lucky to be in it in first place but you can always come back chris but talking about the the children the twins chris lowis wants to know do you do you think you'd have been a good parent because freddy in particular has had some very difficult teenage well chris yes i think he would have been a really great i think so and i think there were um some wonderful scenes of him giving a very practical advice in a slightly comic way a gentle way as we describe Nigel he's a little bit old-fashioned and courtly and um he would have brought some the PG Woodhouse logic to things yes yes and simplified things and um and and and a lot of people have written to me and Nigel in his 70s would have been incredibly useful in the pub because i mean he's one of the few characters that he is as as happy with the grondies yeah as he is with the order it is yeah the far more happy with the grondies actually well he's he's very um in a way we were we were having this this conversation about another we were talking about lillian bellamy the other day jennifer's sister yeah and saying that lillian kind of because she's new money and completely recognizes it jennifer desperately tries to pretend to be old money absolutely lillian knows entirely that she is a barmaid's daughter and lady's daughter yes and she and she is equally happy in fact sometimes quite often prefers the company of the grondies or you know whoever but fry to um just swanning around with with jennifer and and sucking up to mercedes goodman and all that nonsense it's good and i think i loved i loved the old um i mean the scenes the niger was such a romantic and and he he tried to talk farming with um tim and um but but but there was so much humor because you know tim would say oh hold this a second Nigel oh right of course i will he'd drop it wouldn't he which ends david bam yes exactly exactly and um i don't know where the comedy comes from in the program i don't listen to it enough i'm sure there is but um that there is that you know the linda snell but linda snell's always like that yes and Nigel he somehow made lower loxley work and then he went green and things like that but um he he he he had these brainstorming ideas he was a bit of a professor brainstorm which um was a joy to play yes but he did sort of grow in his latter years he i mean thank god he wasn't still roaring around uh twiddling his his um ice cream van and wearing his guerilla suit he did sort of um grow up and he did genuinely start thinking of being a custodian of lower loxley and the future and all that he did sort of it's a shame that just as he was starting to grow up and turn into a man rather than this sort of boy child yes um it then it was all over he never really got the chance to be a grown up did he now what did he do wrong now what have you heard then no i was Nigel disposed of why was Nigel most disposed of i thought i i really don't know i mean i know it seemed the the build up to something gigantic happening it is what was it billed as the um the the the the the episode that was shake ambridged to its core yeah and that really didn't get a very good press did it when he was poor on the edge of morning but all it got was thousands and thousands of people going not Nigel of all the people to get rid of not Nigel oh god what a what a bad idea you know um and um i don't know i i can't go there i mean i always had a lovely relationship with you know Vanessa um i i can't believe it was her decision but um it didn't take long for for i mean you know the BBC to be aware with that that it it was the wrong thing to do really you know well you're almost now more famous for not being on as the person that's not on the show than you were when you were on the show Nigel yes yeah that's extraordinary isn't it it is extraordinary and um it doesn't bring him back no no if we could we would i promise yes oh i know i know and i mean it's it's it's very nice always to uh be discussed with and mentioned on on um the social media that Nigel was a popular character in the image yeah yeah he really was and he at the moment some of the comments that are made is that it all the storylines are quite um depressing there's a lot of quite unpleasant stuff going on at the minute and Nigel would have been as rare and refreshing fruit on the sleeve he was if he was on it now so well it's very important they find someone else yes because actually um we all suffer from real life don't we exactly and and i think anything that at times can make you smile when you're when you're doing that the suffer or yeah um we're changing the nappies or you know whoever listens to the program i mean um i used to i used to enjoy yeah the gentle stuff that he did as well as the uh stupid stuff yeah so what was he like to interview then loose he was absolutely lovely and it was it gives you inside scoop because he ain't listening to his podcast now it it was like it was like talking to somebody a really old friend that you've missed and when you talk to them you forget how much you love them and as soon as he sort of opened up and he said hello i can hear you it was just absent i thought oh Nigel and then when he did the screen and everything it was just lovely yeah he's he was an absolute love and you glad you had him all to yourself um well i mean it was very nice talk to him but i was slightly worried that i was i was captain skype because normally you do all the pressy buttons and i was a bit worried about the pressy buttons and me and Nigel together uh between us we have half a technical brain cell so it wasn't ideal but we seem to have got away with it so who are for us hmm well i thought it was a triumph i really did uh it was i really think that um you got to the heart of the matters there and you have a future role as an investigative inquisitorial type journal type person for you if you ever want to give up your monologue duties thank you very much i'll bear that in mind smashing so after that marathon interview shall we quickly take five come back with a touch of milli uh and her rovings on the west coast of the states and then do hashtag the arches tweets of the week yeah cool hello i'm sarah smith proud sponsor of dumpty dum if you want to polish up your albian give your optics a wipe or even mop up after your ferrets sarah smith cloths are eco-friendly reusable and washable and you know a bit posh sarah smith available from sainsbury's for the posher washer proud sponsors of dumpty dum fancy getting your mouth around something warm something comforting you can really get a firm grip on why not buy a dumpty dum mug from the shop at dumptydum.com goes damn lovely good day everyone it's milli bell here and i have another trip for you this week i haven't done a facebook roundup because mainly what we're reading is that we don't like rob no one trusts him but i do have here with us um a very good friend of mine who i'm going to get to introduce herself because i still haven't managed to get my tongue around saying her last name and she has an interesting story to tell so introduce yourself please hello i am liz via lobos formerly known as liz nutley so liz you are not from the uk never lived in the uk never been there so would you like to tell us how you got on to our favorite docu drama i have been podcasting and you're listening to things on my ipods for a long time and heard on one of those american podcasts a recommendation to listen to this little gem of a story which was the archers and so i started listening to that and is it a gem of a story oh it is can you remember your first storyline around the time i started listening there where there was an issue between usha and shula which led to shula leaving the church and at the time i wasn't quite sure what was going on or why but it started to make sense um and there was also something happening around that time with matt crawford and chalky that sounded very nefarious and uh been for a little brando overheard something i mean got herself into some trouble because of that i love how you say chalky i'm just putting that out there chalky so um tell me about your favorite storyline that you've heard from go to work you know it's hard to say exactly one storyline i love all of the little it's the little gems that are stuck in like jill and pip and the honeybees um anything linda does which can be really grating or it then turned out to be quite wonderful so you're a fan of the christmas panto oh of course good good and how do we feel about um the single the single wicked i don't have any idea what the play looks like i mean on the field but it does get very exciting yes it does and we're always left wondering who is going to win on the day on oh that's true it's it's so tense does any of do any of the storylines resonate as an american do any of the characters do ever because when i listen i think oh gosh i know people just like uh all right yes yes that i know that character type is it the same for you i think living in sanicrews a lot of the things that um sounds sort of counterculture uh especially the stuff that kate gets into really do resonate and she does remind me of specific people um but also lillian in another way maybe because i used to work in a bar so i think we're going to segue nicely into my last question for you which is um give us a plot prediction i don't know whether i can predict anything with respect to this story but what i'm really anticipating great things from is the developing story with million and kate together mm-hmm i don't think we saw that this week did we as she was stuck at the spa trying to get away oh i loved that i like i i have to run off i have an ear handling in five minutes i was dying i love that she had to bribe someone to get her phone yes so we'll watch that plot um with interest actually i must say i do love lillian's relationships with many of the characters and we were talking earlier about how Linda also can really surprise us with her compassion and her understanding so we will continue to listen with the interest thank you so much liz i've got another week with you so i'm going to enjoy it and we'll be back to facebook um round-ups next week so from me haru and from liz bye is that the best american? i'm going to do an american accent well you're doing that very well thank you millie louse hmm why don't you hit us with some hashtag the archers tweets of the last week yes the first run is a bit rude so if you've got small children block up their years if you don't want to oh so wait a minute the uh the the what what we call in the little dumpty dimfence yeah dumpty dimfence best tune out now yes only because you might have to answer some questions that you may not want to answer Rachel Harriet's she was congratulating chambridges on her incredible impression of um jill archer and she said you have got jill's oh to a tea i think she does it when her love eggs move unexpectedly and jane calvally noticed something i did but i thought oh no i don't i can't say anything because you'll just go oh yeah pull it but uh she said there who says i've bought quasal to their brother in a sexy vice and she's right he did to um tobi said it to rex i've bought quasal yeah um christine michael after pip built the cow track pip archer the isambard kingdom brounel de nojour uh verity calsev calchev said she's talking about brookfield and um the uh you know because everyone's saying how many bedrooms definitively has this bloody house got she said no one knows it's like a reverse tardis it used to have room to do b&b and now it can't fit two grannies in and hinge zandal tweeted the week i just love this it just made me pee myself laughing because it was a non-sequitur can anyone tell me where brian aldridge gets his trousers yes no he'd go up to london once a year and he'd buy enough to buy him a buy he'd buy like five pairs very expensive from one of those shops on savel road that the only play you know those places that sell bright gold cords you know what i mean don't you bright gold and jackets with elbow patches and that's what but he'd buy five pairs all at once and it would cost about a thousand pounds but he'd buy them an inch bigger for each year that's what my friend richard used to do and richard richard's my kind of um uh my blueprint for brian aldridge in my head how old is richard now richard is 90 oh he must be the size of a kind of like small planet did you get to 80 then start shrinking again i think you're supposed to put on a pound for every year men are after certain age but i've never heard of an inch for every year that's quite a waste i mean nowhere at one i don't know it's brian isn't it could be anywhere oh can i just quickly say uh people before we wrap this show up that i need recommendations of a new series to watch something thought provoking intelligent uh it doesn't have to be american but uh i need something to watch because i've ran out of things to watch i know it's one of all things hero that thing something or other hero oh what's it called i yes david simon think yes show me a hero yes i've started watching that um of you yes i like it uh there's only is it four or six there's not that many of them no but it's very good have you watched all of them no oh okay um how far have you got um into episode two oh okay should we tell people what the setup is for this i don't think they care um i think they do go on then you run your own so it says they don't anywhere yonkers in the late 80s and a federal judge is mandated that the uh borough council need to build social housing in in yonkers which is this kind of upper working class lower middle class neighborhood and social housing means black people that's what it means it means african-americans and this is the machinations of the council specifically one council member who becomes mayor on a platform of uh did not of stopping this social housing even though he knows that he can't and um it's basically a whole series of kind of council meetings and david simon did the wire he did tramey which um i absolutely love nadon i know a lot of people find tramey um a little bit of a struggle it read does meander but um yeah so that is show me hero uh and i've got that to watch but i need something else though as i was kind of half saying before i know it's kind of autumn season so it means everything's gonna start but if somebody can point me in the right direction that would be smashing and super was that a good summation yes good all right now end of the 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in that you listen to most people listen to the arches and it's somewhat the solitary pursuit and it's built into the rhythm um of your life we there are so many apocryphal stories about um script writers getting weird and wonderful messages from listeners because listeners actually do think this thing is real or take it to be real and you can understand why sometimes the hierarchy of of the arches are somewhat wary of doing public appearances if this kind of nonsense does go on you know we jokingly call it a ducky drama we all know that it's not real and it's you know it does give um them somewhat ammunition to say well actually we need to not engage with the public if people are going to be high in such a ridiculous way yep oh that's a strange world we live in isn't it right i think we've done all our questions but we will stay to coup we will take over there's a coup and and thank you because you you actually know what you're talking about it's been at at times it's a really difficult thing when someone from the press i didn't speak to the press much if they don't actually know what the program's about i can't believe they'd send anybody to interview somebody a character like like yours without actually knowing what they were who they were talking to that's insane surprised yeah oh well it's only good um so this is going to be in a blog is it uh it is going to be on a podcast which never hear my voice do you yes or do you yes all right is this going to be edited a bit oh yes yes yes don't worry good yeah can to make sure that you are you could you please scream for us as you did going off the top of low and yes yes yes we're all braced that was spectacular golly let's talk about something that's not always top of mind but still really important life insurance why because it offers financial protection for your loved ones and can help them pay for things like a mortgage credit card debt it can even help fund an education and guess what life insurance is 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Nigel’s voice returned to our ears as Graham Seed joined our DTD hosts. Lucy’s monologue concentrated on the mystic powers of ginger biscuits which had circulated among the Ambridge residents this week.
Lucy beautifully questioned Graham who commented that Nigel was a rounded character that involved a lot of his own personality and then replayed his own death scene and murder at the hand of David. As for Lizzie dallying with Trade! There remains huge public recognition of the loss suffered as well as the resulting publicity. The influences of William Smethurst and Mary Wimbush were mentioned as was Tim Beecham.
Millie Belle is in the USA meeting TA/DTD correspondents.
Watch out for dumtee d’infants taking over the world.
Kosmo in a very wet Sicily
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