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Duration:: 1h 39m
Broadcast on:: 26 Mar 2015
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This episode of Dumb D'Dar is sponsored by little you like on the Felfshum Rowd. The chap's called hammered, and he's so lovely. Doesn't mind if you come in twice a day. Don't tell anyone. Thank you very much. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] When you drunk dial, it's very entertaining, even if you do wake me up. You know, you can wake me up like that again. You made me go to sleep with a big smile on my face. That really woke you up. Yeah, you did. It was about, I don't know, like one o'clock or something. No, I can't remember what I said anyway. Well, I tell you what, why don't I tell everybody what you said in the middle of Dumb D'Dumb. You do, and something bad will happen, which I haven't quite thought of yet, but I will think, and it will be bad. Yes, no. Good. You won't do that. Because you know what, this is Dumb D'Dumb. The reality ducky drama that is centered on Ambridge in the heart, the Midlands on the Mother's Day chocolate, that is Roy Field Brown, and with me, I have a bunch of limp petrol station carnations that is Lucy Free. And the most important part of our maternal celebrations is you, and whoo, last week. What a week, K-loose. It was brilliant. Well, we finally, we finally, eventually got out the live show. And thank you to everybody that listened, because that was most excellent, most lovely. And we had calls from all four points of the globe, didn't we? We did. We had Canada. Yes. France. Brittany. Well, that would be France. Oh, yes. Are you dying? You know I'm not. Geography is not by strong point. Yes. Australia, which is Australia, Lucy. Yes. It's the sort of penis does it look like for a field? This is what we need to learn. Listen, we've moved on from that. Come on. I haven't. We have calls from all over. However, Derek's equipment didn't work, did it? It didn't. Massive as it was. It didn't, it didn't do the job. Yeah, lots of knobs on it. Lots of knobs. I think one of the knobs probably fell off. So, unfortunately, we don't actually have a recording of our live show. But it did go out and it was most live, so live that we had calls with Joanna. And well, did we actually have a call with Joanna? No, we had a lot of Joanna going, hello? Can you hear me? And then going, she realized that we couldn't. However, we will repeat the process again at some point soon. But we need to, our nerves need to settle first, I don't know. Yes, a couple of years, I think, and then we have to do it again. Yes, so this is episode number 51, even though on iTunes, it will say episode 50. Yes. Right, so glad we got that cleared up. And if you were live and you listened to us, you were part of an exclusive bunch. Well, so people were very kind on the twitters and they said things like it was like the Beatles album, the Rolling Stones concert that everybody said they'd been to. That was, oh, God, a stevre, said it was like the Marquis Rolling Stones concert that everyone pretended to be at and weren't really. She said, but I was really there. She was, she called the Rinaa, didn't she? She did, yes. Right, anyway, enough about that because we need to take talk about today's rendition of Barry Green, don't we? We do, who was it? Jimi Hendrix's ghost, it's so, it's so excellent that we've decided to use it twice. So we've flipped it over from the A side to the B side and it's the same thing. So great. So we're using that one again, but Lucy, yes, can you remind our listeners how it went the accurate of 'dum de dum' of the week? Yes, I can. If you would like to give us your options for how Kate might unblock her chakras, preferably with a sawn off shotgun, then give us a ring on 0-2-0-3-0-3-1-3-1-0-5 or get in touch via speak, via the site. Thank you to Harriet or Shandrich for her fantastic voices and for ringing in so beautifully. Oh, she was excellent, wasn't she? It was like a chat show, I felt like Terry Woken. And, uh, two... You were in a wig. Yes. You know I once you were there. And two Derek, for the loan of the Back Bedroom, Derek's been eating flood damage to kids. I'm more of a chatty man type of host. Are you? I've never seen that. It's good. Oh, he's great. I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm's camp is a row of tents. So, and I now wear glasses. A row of shooting tents. Yeah, exactly. Here you go. Oh, I love a bit of chatty man. Gonna finish me joke now. Oh, crumbs. I hope I didn't ruin your punchline. Feel free just to rewind a bit. It's sincerely. And to Derek, for the back bedroom, Derek's been eating flood damaged kit cats, as he says. There's nothing wrong with having a couple of soggy fingers inside you. Oh, well done. That's quite good. But say if it was a big bar of kit cats and they're four fingers. Would that be a fist fingers? I think we better move on. This week we have calls from Yoko Bear who thinks Charlie's opened up the X files. Jojo's sexy heels. Who's loving to hate Kate. And I've been crying to agree. Andrew Horn is your boy. Any Andrew Horn who wants to wish us a happy birthday. And Jacqueline who forgives Neil for his long ago affair. Did he actually go through with the affair? No, like always in the arches, apart from Jolene, who's the only one who actually puts her money where her mouth is. So to speak, Neil backed away. Who puts them? No, no, no. No, we can't. There's no way you can do that without being very rude. I know because Millie Bell has told us often, hasn't she? Yeah. Yeah. About being too rude. So, all right. Because she's got little jambate and she doesn't want to have to censor the Dumbledore's before her little daughter can listen. So I'm not going to go where I was going to go with that joke. Oh, so right. Venus, I'm not going to go where I was going to go with that joke. Lucy. Why don't you tell about the last seven days in Ambridge? Okay. So, Frieda fried. Well, not yet. The actual cremation is next week. But it is safe to say Frieda has fried her last chip. Bert has asked Jolene to say a few words to sum up her time at the ball. So Jolene will stand at the edge of the grave and shout, "Frieda cottage pie in lasagna for table six!" Apart from that, this week on Ambridge, responsive by Kleenex tissues and rapid solutions. Bert cried, Linda cried, I cried. The rapid solutions came from Ruth and David, who are now absolutely tip-top pulling together as a team and completely forgetting they were spitting venom at each other a week ago. Amazing what a wet night can do. Venom has only been spat in one direction. That's true. Well, no, I don't know, because he got crossed with her when she picked on his mam. Didn't he? I say he's more kind of hurt, but anyway, go on, money won't go away. And Fallon, who seems quite sanguine at the prospect of Kenton's sudden non-investment in Fallon's house of tea-bagging. And also Linda, who in a complete vault of fuss began a conversation with the revving rev saying she'd lost the will to live, and within 30 seconds was shouting that the village had to pull together and what were we all waiting for. But the good news is the titchy sprog has caught up with titchy knob. Money deducted from earnings. That is one deposit I bet he wishes he'd never made. And hurrah, crusty, is back. She paddled about, visiting the needy like the Duchess of Cambridge, saying, "Oh, how awful, I'm so sorry if you all." Ed has been told to keep his mouth shut about unbunging Charlie's drains. "What's your diary like for the next few weeks?" Charlie asked Ed. "Same as usual, it's got Bob the builder on the front," said Ed. "The senior Grundes are going to have to be prized out of grey gables with a winkle pin. Joe is having a smashing time at the health club, swanning about in his fur coat and getting his piles waxed. He also enjoyed wearing a tiger onesie, which came as a surprise to everyone as he is normally wearing a giraffe onesie. Fallon went completely barking and decided to decorate the flood bar with things she had found in the water. So she stuck scruff on the wall and smeared him with sewage." "And loads of dead sheep, then." "And loads of dead sheep. Tig is reveling in being the only dog in the village now and is in every scene frisking about and woofing just to make his point. Surely it won't be long before harassment catches on and realises that it was Tig that pushed scruff in the drink. Tony is coming home, Pat announced the news, and then kissed him with a noise that sounded like Velcro being pulled apart so maybe Tony hadn't shaved or Pat hadn't. Meanwhile, Kenton burst a blood vessel at David in a scene that I suspect had many tweet along as cackling with glee. He spat, he frothed, he quivered, and he completely ignored David's quite sensible point that Kenton didn't actually have the money that he spent. So Pip has suggested that Auntie Schuller goes to calm him down in a weird exchange with David that gave me proof of something I have long suspected. I.e. Schuller and Kenton have that twin thing going on, as David put it. And in another fist pumping moment, Phoebe completely destroyed Kate yet again, pulled out all her chakras, jumped on them and put them back in in the wrong order. Even Jennifer joined in with "Have you no shame?" to which the answer is surely "Of course not, I'm a pissed vegan who abandons children with the lase fair attitude of David Cameron in a pub." And, and, and, and ask them to lend the money to the point where a daughter's gotten on herself. Yes, bang out of order. Especially when she wanted to spend it on a stupid yoga session or hot yoga, that was it, wouldn't it? Bigger yoga that, isn't it? Yeah. People get all sweaty. Yeah. You ever been to one of those sessions where you have? No, what? Well, you know when you do like kind of like pilates or yoga and then people sweating like not nice places and it's like looking at a train accident, isn't it? You want to look away and they're sweating in their naughty bits and it's coming to you. You only know that they're sweating in their naughty bits if you're already looking at their naughty bits. It's like a train accident. You can't, like, like a car accident. You can't help themselves. You're like, oh, don't be sweating there, but they are. Anyway, I'm sure there's some, some lister out there who will be able to bat me up on that. The groin sweats, that's the thing. Oh, gosh, yeah. Anyway, Phoebe's loyalty to Hailey means she operates a take no prisoners policy with Kate, which is a joy to see and made the mother's day scene a joy to hear. And we ended with a scene which would have made the carry-on team think, no, hang on, that's probably pushing it a bit. Charlie asked if he could watch Adam get his pole up because he'd never done it before and Adam said, yes, of course. I've been doing it for quite a few years now. Charlie then described the whole thing as a slick operation. Oh, Kerry Davis, how you do tease us? The end. Do we know for a fact that Kerry wrote that one? We do. Oh, great. He's a multi-part penny that Kerry. He is filthy. He's been, he's been being teased a bit about it. And especially because of a more recent episode in which a lot of unarchers like language was used. Now, Lucy. Yes. Right. You know, we're just kind of like condensing the show and everything and getting me think on tip top and tight. Yes. Right. Why don't we ring our special guest that wasn't on our live show? Yes. I've got it. Hello, Ambridge 3962. Now, just just whilst I have my partner in crime here, Mr B, we're going to apologise again for last Thursday. That's right. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, no. The whole thing was a pigging disaster. Well, it might be slightly overstated, but not, but not by much. We, the live show did go out after a fashion. Yeah, after a fashion, Derek, Derek Fletcher's equipment didn't quite work. His recording equipment didn't quite work. So we don't have a recording of it. Numerous people called in from all over the globe. Canada, France, Australia, etc. Oh, no. And only half of them were properly, properly audible. But Lucy and I are massive professionals and we filled manfully and a show of sorts went out. So, well, what do you say? Well, it was in the end, it got better. And I think people were tweeting about it and just in time of chaos, it was like his was. Yeah, it was like his was loosely around talking about the amb, the amb, bursting its banks. And people seem to... Quite frankly, anything anyone wanted to talk about because somebody talked to... Yeah, somebody was talking about their conservatory at one point and making chips for their French husband who's in the other room. He was quite, quite bizarre, but on that note, I think we should kind of formally crack on with our little bit of a chat. Okie dokie. Right. So we were going to have on our 50th episode the great archer himself. And one thing and another, we couldn't get him on. So we thought we'd get him on in the 51st show. So, Mr Tim Benting, God Archer, take a bow and say hello. God Archer. Well, you are right. Yeah, you look absolutely paint-y archers. Don't beat up, the only God Archer that you've heard recently was my dad in David's head, really. I think that was quite a moment. Have you enjoyed all this having to sort of really get to grips with something? It's been absolutely fantastic, I mean, apart from anything else, all the whole storyline leading up to David's, you know, a tiffany of hearing his dad and making this momentous decision was great because of the way it was written, because I knew what I did personally. No, I knew what was coming. So it was all about trying to do it in a sort of subtle way so that, you know, each point, there were all these little things that were gnawing away at him and that you were realizing the things that he was going to miss, even to the extent of having that rather sweet conversation with Susan in the shop, you know, and her kind of rattling on about making Chile for Neil, you know, and him kind of, you know, he sort of went around visiting, in a way, everybody, and at each point he was thinking, "God, I'm going to miss this, I'm going to miss this, I'm going to miss this," and then the bit where he discovers the old farming journals of really his granddad and starts going through that and then seeing how they had weathered all the storms that were shown at him, thrown at them, and then, you know, this sort of wonderful kind of symbolic moment of the toy farm and that lovely line that Jill had to him, David, it's not about the farm, is it? And he goes, "No, not at all." For me it had resonances because about two years ago we very nearly sold our house in London that we'd bought in 1982 and I spent 33 years, I mean, I bought it at the same year that I got the arches and I'd been doing it up ever since and turned it from, you know, from a very tatty place into a family home and it came to a point where we'd made a decision to have a new adventure in our lives at the age of 60 and we were going to go off and buy somewhere in the country and sell this and one thing, I mean, it's a long story, I went boy with it, but it actually was sort of economic that dictated it, but nevertheless, when I had a moment, when I woke up at 4 o'clock in the morning, sat up in bed and just when Judy went, "What?" and I went, "I can't do this, I can't do it." And she said, "What?" And it was sort of, you know, that there were, it wasn't the same story, but it was, that I did, I did really empathize with David, once you've made the decision you can't do it, you just can't, you know, and it's, and then Ruth has that line, "You know, can we talk about this?" If it goes, "Yeah, we can, but it's not going to make any money difference." And the writing was so, so strong from Jaina Toy, I mean, when I read it, I was in bits in the hotel when I was reading it through and I texted her to say, "This is really, really good stuff." And also, we had this moment where Judy and I sat down and Judy doesn't listen to the reactions really. I mean, you know, she listens to it if it's on in the car, but we actually sat down for the flood episode for the omnibus and after supper sat there the grass and wine, sat in front of a ruling log fire and put it up loud on the stereo, you know, and sat and listened to the whole thing. And it was a fantastic radio play because it had, you know, because it was done, I think in people listening to it in episodically day to day, I understand the fact that it must have been a bit itty. But, and because unlike the arches normally where it's, you know, one day follows another and this, it was one hour followed another, you know, you went literally out of the three or four episodes, you went straight into it and that's never been done before. But as an omnibus episode, it was a fantastic radio play. You know, it had a beginning in the middle of the middle and end, it was an entire story in itself and it was terrific, exciting and technically the technicians, you know, the people recording it and all the crew, they did a fantastic job. I was talking to Andy Partington who's a brilliant engineer and they spent two hours in post-production just on the scene with Eddie Grundy down the down the drain and you listen to that technically it's brilliant because David and Pip are quite clearly kind of above him and it's not just there a way that it sounds above and that Pip's further away than David and poor old Trevor recording that, he's got a really bad back and he was sitting on a chair sort of with his head down between his knees and he was really hurting and he was in agony so all that stuff I've already got like "Oh God, I can't eat it!" and Walter going all over his face and you know he was pouring water into his face and I mean it sounded fantastic, you just read he's down a drain, you know, he's down a drain. Yeah and actually you're right there wasn't one sound effect on that episode, very occasionally you can get a sound effect that makes you go "Ooh" or even laugh a bit but there was nothing in that that stood out as well. No, there was a photograph of me which I didn't put on Twitter anything but it is on the David Arch, I'm very flattered to say, there's the David Arch for Appreciation Society on Facebook now and I posted a picture of me and I'll tell you what, it was you coming on to Dumdie Dum which gave it a shot in the arm, so if you seem to remember because you went exactly and you said there is this David Arch Appreciation Society and it's got 18 members or something, can we just get it past 20 and it shot up to a massive, I think, 35 after you went on to Dumdie Dum. Well there's a picture on there of me and Trevor Harrison who's Eddie Grundy standing in our respective buckets with our barbers and hats on which is quite absurd. In fact before I posted it, I said I've got this photograph, I said I don't want to ruin it for anybody, is anybody want to see it? And everybody went "yes" and there's this one woman that went "no" because I said "well just close your eyes darling, here you go" because you know we all every now and again take pictures of things with the funding in the studio and I'm I'm I'm where I used to when I started I'd sort of post it, I'm wary of it now because people do say that don't ruin the the illusion you know, totally fair. So when you did your your change of mind in your own your own house and you decided not to move, did your wife go and hide in the arning board and flounce around something or was it all resolved quite no it wasn't I mean you know it was it was very much a mutual decision I mean it was it was it was a sudden kind of it was just a bit of terror from me Eddie kind of just kind of thinking what if it all goes wrong you know and and the thing about London particularly is if you move out of London you can never move back in again and it is such a momentous decision and there were lots of things that were wrong with the with the place which she knew as well as I did and it just needed in a way just needed for one of us to go "no" and the other one would have gone okay because you know when it's not it's it wasn't like that I mean we we very much it was very much a joint decision but it was me that kind of I think was the catalyst. Now you have obviously had you know dare I say the lion's share of the storylines which at least you've been at the fulcrum of them anyway for the last few months is that going to continue I know you can't go into massive amount of details in terms of forward storylines but we're going to get loads more Mr D Archer are we? I don't know and then you know I did I did know for this and you know thank goodness because we've got the VAT and the tax to pay at the end of January so we only get paid but we only get paid for episode you know so it's been great for me on that fund and thank goodness but so I did know that I had I had you know Sean told me that I've got these storylines coming up which is unusual for us normally we you know we know month to month and so I mean what the future you know brings in terms of how much is going to be at Brookfield. I don't know I mean he's you know he's very clear about the fact that he wants you know bringing Jill back to Brookfield was was to bring back some of the you know the the the central characters who'd been slightly put onto the periphery a bit and and then there's Josh you know who he he wasn't really involved in any of this I'm not quite sure why whether or not Angus in me who's our new Josh whether he was busy doing other things but it's been introducing you know Daisy who's our new pet and very much so and she's been at the center of it and Josh's you know hasn't been heard so you never know it might be a kind of you know parents with getting getting Josh more involved in it I'd say I mean you know I'm just but this is hard to say the answer to your question is I absolutely don't know I mean obviously I hope that I'm going to be so I get paid but you know I don't know. Did you did you enjoy doing the scene because one of the most popular scenes over the last week has been the scene with Kenton completely losing it when he comes back from his immensely extravagant holiday to find that actually he's got nothing coming up. Did you enjoy doing that because it was a fantastic scene. It was great because we talked to them a lot about it actually and you know I love the old Richard you know I get on really really well and and we've always had this sort of rather jokey Kenton David relationship, Dave and everything and and having to be you know horrible to each other every single time we finish a scene you know he goes oh mate you know comes up and gives me a hug because I hate this I hate this I hate being horrible and it's not like him and but what's really interesting was that when we did that scene where he shouts at me because of the nature of the relationship is that Kenton's always been although he's all those David's elder brother he's always you know David's always had the high status you know David Bunsbrook field and Kenton's always been the black sheep and hopeless and you know often the fair is not coming and so in terms of status you know you do improv it's always about who's high status who's low status he's always been David's been high status he's always looking at all those younger brother he's kind of the grown up in a way and when we did this suddenly and literally we just you know when we recorded it and when Richard was yelling at me I suddenly went god I'm I'm the younger brother you know this is this is my big brother really really losing it with his younger brother and suddenly it was like kind of reverting to childhood about I hate this you know I hate being shouted at by my big brother and and I David's lines in that were all kind of trying to placate him and and I'd been when we'd done the reader and the green them had been quite quiet in my responses and when it got to him I found myself shouting back at him say you know they're like stop it stop it you know and it turned it was quite elemental so nature what's so lovely about the arches is you know you tend to do any one take and it happens very much so there's lots of instinctive stuff going on you know very unrehearsed often and that was just purely came out of that way you know nowhere I mean he I think we did rehearse it and he said was that too loud and they'd said yes because he was broken there the needle on the floor on the view meter but um so he turned away a bit and did it the second time of had turned we all because what was interesting was that he actually almost sounded a little bit horse it was as if he he was not he's not somebody who's used to shouting like that you know or losing his temper to that extent and that was that made it extra sort of real for me because my voice goes all squeaky when I try and shout to anybody and it almost sounded like Kenton's yeah it was you know he's a he's a stonkingly good actor Richard and and and that was you know it was real that was a good idea I think that's that's when I realized that he really did have acting chops because there was a kelp Kenton he's played normally at kind of like one pace isn't he kind of jokey you know take it you know quite chilled exactly and then he absolutely let you have it with both barrels yeah you know it was a bloody fault but still yeah yeah yeah absolutely felt that and you thought well he did but what's it what's so good about the storyline is of course that you've got people arguing it from both sides you know you you'll have people um you know listen as some people will say of course it's a Kenton's fault but on the other hand David is you know to to a certain extent responsible for that because he knows his brother he knows who he's going to do and and and yeah he went off and he spent the money before he had it but then there was this decision for David as to whether or not to bring him up in Australia and say that don't you know don't spend any more which is a difficult decision you know and as we know I mean there it is he would have been you know he's damned if he did damned if he didn't because if he had one he might have ruined his holiday and and at least he had a nice holiday pretty dick and a lot of money on jewelry so it's a clever piece of writing ready isn't it you know it's it's good stuff and it's then it's so true you know that's what's so good about it yeah I did love it when I heard Fallon saying I did have a little chuckle when I heard Fallon saying oh mum is that a new ring and I love the my favorite my favorite line is when he comes in and and Ken's and saying yeah well when we get the money from the sale and this was a pause and he goes yeah um about that and you could hear I wonder when we were recording it thinking you know all the listeners are going yeah about that because everyone's been waiting for this to happen you know yeah good fun give a good so um you can't tell us about any future storylines yeah you're denying the fact that you are god archer I don't god archer I mean the thing about you to any any god other you know other people who write the stories you know it's the nature of being a writer as I should know because I'm I have a it's a big day for me my my book um hundred hundred copies of my new book Colin the campervan arrived from the publisher today and the now on sale at Amazon as it's called Colin the campervan we're presuming it's not autobiographical no but it's about my but it's pretty much about my campervan that if you look on Facebook you'll see this I put a picture up of me when my son who's now 30 was four and there we are with the campervan which is exactly the same color and type it's a type two VW campervan and and I wrote this story 20 years ago as a sort of wishful film and about a campervan that gets basically you know reaches rock bottom and then gets um gets rebuilt as a as a superman and um it sat around for 20 years not anything happening and I just I put it up on Kindle one day because I'm you know a bit of a geek and I could so I did and the woman who was an archer's fan was on my website and she saw the link to it and read it and she said this is great and she's a publisher so would you like me to publish it and I went yeah next thing I knew I was getting these illustrations being sent from me by this brilliant illustrator called Owen Clackston who was sending me you know pencil drawings and I was going that's amazing that's exactly what how I'd imagined all these scenes and so he's filmed them out and they're lovely they're beautiful they're very kind of they're slightly old-fashioned they're sort of you know it's not sort of modern in your face garish it's kind of pastel shades and sort of rather 1950s sort of thing and um anyway I'm your book launch on Wednesday of my book and my wife's book Judy's book about how to make um couture hats um which she said well wait wait a minute there Tim Lucy you know when your podcast is matured when actors come on because they've got a book to push yeah yeah I know well I've listened I spent my life listening to people you know I wonder why they're on this program oh they're plugging a book so yeah so here I've got you know it's not often in your eyes that you've got a book to plug but I have how in the world are you combining the launch of Colin the camper van and a book on couture they don't it's exactly it we thought well if we're gonna have a book launch let's combine the two so um there's going to be we're in the Jaguar showroom on on Barkley Street just off Barkley Square so as you walk in there's an F-type jag and then there's going to be all these um features of this this girl come 1970s camper van wearing a hat and then dude we've got Judy's going to be bringing along a lot of the hats that are in the book so we're going to have our friends and um um and lot of arches cast there wearing the hats and we've got the press coming along so we'll be pictures of it and everything and so anybody and we're coming obviously Tim we're coming obviously yeah it sounds very obvious that our invite is in the pose no any reason i'm havering is because i'm slightly worried that we vote that we've overdone the numbers yeah yeah yeah the amount of time we've heard oh no it's true it's a catering i'm sorry going only people going oh god have you got enough you know have we got enough can of taste have you got enough champagne glasses of course you can come but you can't invite your listeners to come otherwise we really will be able to pay well i'm sure through your david archer appreciation society page on facebook you've got a lot of pre-orders for this book well there's the call in the camper van page you see that now because the publisher created a special facebook page called calling the camper van so you know details of how to buy it are all there then anybody can go there and find it well good well listen if you've got kids kids aged sort of about five upwards ready um little little students any very short book then i'm writing the sequel at the moment well you know what we'll have to get you on when when we have when you have when you have the sequel ready yeah absolutely oh there's another floody enbridge i don't think that's gonna happen calling the camper van in the flood yeah you could paddle in at sea there you go yeah tim do you remember the gumdrop books mmm do i because it kind of sat there i just wondered because it that they're sort of their 1950s books and i've completely forgotten who wrote them but they're about this vintage car who goes off and has oh gumdrop things and the way you described it i think it's funny enough my sister's nickname was gumdrop so maybe that's um yeah maybe that was where it came from it's more like if you sort of think herbie you know the beetle it's sort of more like that he's got a character and you know it's it's all from his perspective it's all from Colin's point of view so he he has a personality and he has a role you know he's got his his his andy the guy who first buys him who actually wins him in a competition when he's a broke student at university which is basically reflects on me because i had it when i was broken the ecosystem and it's all camper van which i basically i used to drive i used to live in it when i took him up to record the arches to save money on the hotels and things i used to park it in the field opposite pebble mill and sleep in it well uh mr benting we'll get you back uh i tell you what we'll get you back before you actually write the sequel how's that cool cool listen lovely spainty and so sorry that um you weren't on the live show uh but dependent on who you listen to you either didn't miss much what you did so take your picture and when you've got the pictures up from your launch then and send them to us and we'll tweet all righty cool fantastic i will do thank you god archer all the best take care dude bye bye bye bye do you see yes um shall we do some calls now yes why not can we do some emails first all right then um uh martin pickering was talking about kenten so basically the answer is no what i said can we do some calls first and you said yes but can we do some emails first so just why don't you just say no you're so english so polite you're greece and just do what you want to do anyway all right martin is email yes martin pickering said kenten's rant this is about go kenten what a perfect tirade never let an emotion go unexpressed he let david have it right between the eyes i'm surprised there is anything more than a david shaped radiation shadow on the wall fabulous writing uh must have a grumble uh who um monitors people's appearances i have i'm doing a pop quiz royfield i know you love those particularly this time in the morning have a guess when auntie satia was last heard from 2007 god damn it 2008 how did you know that uh be the guess she hadn't been in it forever but you wouldn't think it was that oh would you no you wouldn't give me another one give me another one uh hang on i've got to find his email talk amongst yourself uh but while i'm finding that i'm also because i'm a woman and can do many things at once oh obviously not um Felicity about uh knitting lillian and linda she said give me another one i meant another who's i know you did and i'm just bringing it up okay all right so while i'm doing that i'm attempting to be all multi tasky typey person all right and oh by the way he says he feels quite bereft because he's had no dumpy dumpy dump for nearly two weeks this is my stuff at grumble anyway Felicity says um that she can foresee a cozy evening where linda suggests that lillian and linda sit and knit together lillian confesses that it wasn't really her work on the matinee jacket and linda says she was well aware of that and sits down to teach lillian to knit properly that would all be lovely if lillian if lillian was living in the dauhaus she's not so it's still going to be what did you call the jacket matinee jacket oh obviously the matinee jacket right let's have another quiz so when did we last here from Debbie oh Debbie was in it last year wasn't she she put in an appearance i'm gonna go June of 2014 November 2014 you're good at this right kaffee perks oh i know this one how December 2013 how the how do you know that no i did know that because i'm because um our person with the anorac that isn't too big um i saw it in his list a couple weeks ago on the book of face okay um Roorie oh good thing is he's mentioned quite often poor little sod i'm going to say he's locked in the wine chiller in the alphabet now he's gone off to boarding school right it's either he'd last heard him in 2013 but he's mentioned all the time that's the tricky thing here hmm october 2012 you're joking no good heavens because that's it he had that little iris accent for way longer than you should have yeah yes where's my mammy and now he's going to come back talking like this hello mama hello pretend mama who daddy i would never say 2012 no oh right one more because this is going to be fantastically boring radio i'm sorry everybody but we're having fun um who should we have oh um the uh i just found one hang on with a little a little bit of a Clive Horribin ah now why did Clive come back was he let out of prison and he scared arty cardboard didn't he she saw him around and she got the i'm gonna go 2011 you're right damn you're good at this and i'm going to say don't know what part of the year it was though just for the head of it i'm just going to say October 2011 okay you've got the list up haven't you no i haven't it's November 2011 god damn look at that and you're half asleep mmm you've discovered your latent superpower everyone's got one do you know what mine is uh being ridiculously perky first thing in the morning apart from that that's down to coffee that's hardly a superpower um it is being able to guess what people are going to call their children really yeah i've been right three times this year i don't know there isn't well all your but all the people that you know are going to call their kids so fear jamaima yes everybody's called jamaima no no no people of all what do you know i get a bit stuck obviously when we're talking about you know people that i know call their kids like jamaal and tyreese and things like that right hmm different different side of this i don't know anybody cooked jamaal or tyreese uh so i would get that wrong but uh people that i know and i don't have to know them massively well but i can generally guess and i go um in fact my friend phil owes me a tenor because um i but we bet uh our business partner um we bet what he was going to call his child and i got the first and second name right so he owes me a tenor and what were they oh god i've forgotten now um edward edward edward edward james hmm it's a bit conventional well he's called woody edward woody anyway uh yes so we've done felicity and her knitting um oh dear yes and now we've got somebody who is not donald who is not happy about david so it's a good job we're reading this out after we've had lovely timmy tim tim tim tim on he says i have tried to be empathetic and at least i am no longer ranting oh contrary at all you are still ranting but anyway i am a son and grandson of farmers like dan and doris my grandparents took a farm in the thirties david's behavior is a betrayal of his grandfather dan took the farm to give his family a future if he could have seen a better future he would have made a different decision david was offered two million pounds more than the asking price for brookfield a chance to move from a struggling farm and perhaps make a future for his family he chose to react like a half baked tough and uh and i think he means imagine an entirely unfarmily connection with one spot of land his grandfather would have taken the money in an instant and been in a van north in a moment i have to say the farmers i know are not sentimental you cannot be a sentimental farmer the nature of it is you know you don't turn the animals into pets you don't uh you know you don't name them you don't you just see them as to like a a um you know a plumber will will have his favorite spanner or whatever like that you know the one that you always use like a cook will have oh no i can't i need that that it's that that knife or that wooden spoon that i always use to do this um surely that analogy isn't a correct one no it is i think and then you just have favorite um animals because they're good milkers or they're good mothers or whatever but you don't have you have a sentimental connection to the land in terms of you know enjoying it when things are going well but i think money comes top pretty much and people would chuck it and i've seen them do it chuck chuck beautiful farmhouse is over in an instant to to um build new housing all over the land and make a mint and then go off and live in a nice modern centrally heated house with satellite television and you know no having to tramp through mud to get to the front door but in every profession there are people who use it as a means to an end and there are people who actually have uh an emotional connection to it so there are people that make films because actually they just want to turn a book and they just do formulate movies and there are people who are actually in it for the art there are people who um are doctors purely because it pays quite well and there are people who who nurse because they like to look after it's like a vocation you mean exactly what i was coming to so shortly it it follows that there are going to be some people who farm the land who see it just a way of of making money and it's just a living and there are some people who see themselves as custodians looking after mother guy well they're the ones who couldn't have thought they've usually got some money stashed away somewhere they're they're the oliver stirlings the ones who are permanently you know no listen i know i know now about farming you know i don't know the one end of a sheet from mother which end of a sheet do you milk Lucy see i don't i don't know anything about this not the bum end and not if it's a ram definitely but what i do know is that people have different needs wants to take different things out of what they do for a living so it follows to me that there are going to be some some people who are attracted to farming or born into farming who do see themselves as custodians of the land and that they are passing this on to another generation and it would also make sense to me that there are a whole load of people there's so right i can make a mint out of this you know and and that's what i'm going to do and then what happens next heaven only notes because it's all about the green and i mean money not grass i don't i don't think anyone thinks i can make a mint out of this i think the with farming at the moment you have this well brian augins definitely thinks that but he's a gentleman farmer he very rarely gets his hands dirty and he's also big and important for that massive investments but he never started off as somebody he's not from a farming family i don't believe i think he came into it i think i miss understanding what you mean by a gentleman farmer to me Oliver Stirling is a gentleman farmer he's just doing it as a little thing to do on his side yeah brian Aldridge he's a businessman farmer yeah but it's the land that it's it's the owning of the land and the investments that he's based on you know um you know you get you get you mortgage land in the same way that you mortgage a house you use it to make investments and all that kind of thing and you know he's got this farm which is more like a sort of a grain it's a difference between having a farm and having a grain factory and that's what i see brian as you know he's got the deer he's got the fishing lake it's just about absolutely mining the land for every every penny it can offer and he's got you know property and all that sort of thing but but but then to me in my head you're making my point for me he's not a gentleman farmer he's a businessman farmer which isn't what david is david is um a much more traditional um is the much more traditional view of a farmer in terms of there's generations of his family that have the you know have worked the land it took a lifetime to find the person you want to marry finding the perfect engagement ring is a lot easier at blunile.com you can find or design the ring you've always dreamed of with help from blunile's jewelry experts who are on hand 24/7 to answer questions and the ease and convenience of shopping online for a limited time get fifty dollars off your purchase of five hundred dollars or more with code listen at blunile.com that's fifty dollars off with code listen at blunile.com if there's one thing that my family and friends know me for it's being an amazing gift giver. i owe it all to celebrations passport from one eight hundred flowers dot com my one stop shopping site that has amazing gifts for every occasion with celebrations passport i get free shipping on thousands of amazing gifts and the more gifts i give the more perks and rewards i earn to learn more and take your gift giving to the next level visit one eight hundred flowers dot com slash a cast that's one eight hundred flowers dot com slash a cast my dad works in b2b marketing he came by my school for career day and said he was a big row as man then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend my friends still laughing me to this day not everyone gets b2b but with linkedin you'll be able to reach people who do get a hundred dollar credit on your next ad campaign go to linkedin dot com slash results to claim your credit that's linkedin dot com slash results terms and conditions apply linkedin the place to be to be there and to all intents and purposes to my city eyes he is a much more traditional farm in terms of what he uses the land for then you have ollie for sterling who is basically retired and does a little bit of this and a little bit of that because it's kind of quite nice and it's all around exactly but then you have brian who is mr mega dairy you know it's three different types of farming surely yes but i think when you're doing subsistence farming which is what david is i think it isn't doing subsistence farming subsistence farming is you only farm enough to feed yourself yes okay well all right okay well you're talking about it i mean farming where that's the oh he doesn't have anything else he doesn't have you know organic vegetable things and i suppose he has um has it he'll stuff doesn't he um but yeah i don't i think that i don't think farmers very often make sentimental decisions which is what donald is saying and to assertus and i agree with donald well again all right i was we just come like a whole 360 in this i think i would have walked into this whole debate thinking that all farmers thought for themselves the custodians of the land but that's obviously patently obviously not the case but as i said in every profession you have some people that are in it because it has happened to have thought how many people are passionate about accounting well we know one don't we you know he won't even be falling falling into accounting because you know it's just because they just did but there are some people who and my accountant is one of them they're absolutely passionate about it and i don't really understand that at all but it's the same thing every industry there's some people who are born to do it want to do it see as the most important thing in the world and some people are just i just have to be doing this so why isn't it the same for farmers well maybe it is but i think there is an awful lot of romantic sentimental guff talked about um the land because when you're battling with EU regulations and you know um money getting tighter and tighter and you're being offered ridiculous sums of money for the land that you are using um for things like housing where you could make an absolute mint and not have to do anything for it i don't think i think there are less than you in less farmers than you imagine or do i mean fewer farmers in you imagine that would uh reject a two million quid bonus in order to be the guardian of the land hmm that's what i think listen you could well be true it doesn't mean that nobody would no i'm not saying nobody would i'm just saying that i think no but our email are in a row yes said nobody would and i'm and i disagree with that no he said his grandfather would not have done that and his grandfather and but you know he said he's reacting like a half baked toff and yeah david made a decision that Nigel Padgeta would have made and Nigel Padgeta and a farmer are very different things so there again again you know i listen i'm i'm i'm a city boy and so i don't know the absolute ins and outs of a rural life but you've got to have a different way of viewing your farm holding if you have numerous generations of your family that have lived there you know if if you've just yeah bought it last year yeah you know you're going to feel very differently from it than if you've born on that land and generations of your family have farmed that land yeah can you sell it yes you can you know should you sell it maybe but you're still going to have a you're going to view very differently aren't you that's all i'm saying one day i would really like to record you going to a farm i think it would be hilarious do you own a pair of willies of course i don't own a pair of willies i would have a pair of people at Chris' 100 they'd be like osworld birding birdies you know it's not really the same thing but it's similar when my uncle Dan when my uncle Sam died in Jamaica um all those years ago he's one that died suddenly yeah we discovered in his world that he had bequeathed me some land in Jamaica wow yeah now it came as a massive shock because the uncle Sam had no children and um his wife didn't even know um auntie ivy didn't know and he bequeathed me two parcels of land in Jamaica and she got quite upset about this and she said oh we shouldn't have done that he shouldn't he didn't tell me blah blah blah blah now my dad got extremely emotional sentimental about it and we tried to work out why my uncle had given me this land and it was and we the only thing we could think of because he didn't tell anybody he was planning on doing this it's because he was that he was the only one of seven siblings he was male so I was gonna and I would gonna be the own I was the eldest person who was carrying on the family name so that's the only thing we could think you know me and my uncle Sam always got on but we weren't particularly close so that was the only thing we could think of I was gonna be the the next generation um he was carrying on the family name and I felt no attachment to the land I was very touched by the sentiment my dad felt very passionately about it he was born and brought up in the village he knew that parcel of land my dad was like you've got to have it you've got to have it you've got to have it and I'm like if auntie ivy's upset about this I'd rather just like you know let her have it and he said no no no no and the difference was he knew that land you know he paid on it you know and it meant oh auntie ivy got a knickers in a twist I went auntie ivy you have it really yeah yeah and he gave me some land halfway to Kingston as well and she just she just got so upset and I for me it just wasn't worth the family family uproar you know and I'm five thousand six thousand miles away you know and it wasn't as if I was going to transplant myself to Jamaica any time soon or even build anything on any time soon so I was just going to have the title D so this land and that was it and who knows who would who would you be looking at you in a whole different line now Roy Field really yes like a Jane Austen hero how many acres of how many acres does he have what manner of man and how how many thousand a year well I don't have the land now well you know it probably I probably still have it in name but she's doing whatever she's doing with it and most probably it's just they're sat empty you know wow cool next email next team well we've run out of email so now we will go to the phones all right cool hello ambrage 3962 hello dump stummets yoke will bear here calling from swindom but we won't talk about that well what a week sir I really thought it was after the flood this last week was it the week before or was it a Monday I don't know I really think that this week it was back on form again Kenton what a stupendous piece of acting that was this proper acting that I find myself once again kind of leaping to the defense of Charlie I mean he's starting a bit of a cover-up he's all getting a bit ex-files isn't it you know so if you say that then you know we may have to kill you and all that kind of stuff about the ditches and the culverts but one thing I'm saying is defenses he is really good at his job isn't he he's really really good and I mean he's obviously quite loyal to to Justin and what have you and I think that's kind of laudable but I know I'm kind of in a bit of a minority here I think he should get together with Adam I think they'd be good for each other and like I said I've never I've never warmed to him I tried I tried I tried I tried but you know I just it just wasn't happening so that's the week in ambrage so yes and I really really enjoyed the the live episode it was enormous amounts of fun so yeah that was great we should do that again do it more often though only if you're nervous can stand it okay then that's me done bye Yoko bear thank you for bringing in Yoko bear when you rang in before on the live one that was very nice he suggests we do the live one again Yoko bear are you mad we have not it's gonna take us a good decade to recover from the last bloody live one um yes he enjoyed Kenton going mad he is leaping to the defense of Charlie now I came up with a little hypothesis this and it suddenly popped into my head and I forgive me if it has also popped into everyone else's heads and I'm just a bit slow but I think Charlie is Justin's stepson I said BBC news alert I was going to say it was quite an interesting hypothesis but I'm not sure it deserves its own jingle to be honest so what do you reckon uh well a few people seem to be saying this and I must admit I didn't see it coming that's not to say that I don't think that he isn't or is it's just his his his desperate need to protect Justin at all costs the fact that he is so obsessed with work and so obsessed with it making money and there's a sort of a almost a fear that things are gonna go wrong he said oh my dad so there's obviously a bit of an issue there and um Justin was quite dismissive of of him at the huntball thing um which you know you have to have that kind of you know nobody can be more rude to you than your family um and uh yeah so there's there's sort of a few things that are making and the fact that he's sort of trying to coerce Adam into saying that um not making a point about the the the culverts being blocked um that uh he's um suggesting to uh Ed that Ed just clears him and doesn't say anything to anybody otherwise he might not get work from the estate again that level of protection you don't get unless you've either got a massive crush on your boss or you have a huge like a proper personal as in it's your own ego state that's going to be damaged if anything happens to to um to that person that's detrimental so i don't know it's just all there's something very strange going on and i think it's it's uh um yeah i think it's it's there's a family link there you could well be correct you're not gonna argue with me no i said i have no strong feelings on this either way okay but i've seen on the twitters that people are speculating um that that is his pops and i thought oh maybe use maybe use i'm not argumentative for the sake of being argumentative no i know hi there don't you don't know this is jojo's sexy heels um afraid i missed out on the live session on thursday i was tuned in on monday but didn't work out never mind won't go on witching on about that just thought i'd phone in to say how much i'm really enjoying kate she really is marmite isn't she i hate her but i love to hate her um saying her aura is out of balance you can just tell that she's wandering around in a loose captain with an african print and and the conversation between her and brian in the kitchen was absolutely brilliant well done script writers absolutely loved it especially his matched funding initiatives comment and having linda as the surrogate mother because no one else understands her you can just see that kate's going to be spending more and more time with linda snell and i really can't wait to hear the next time that she's got a hangover brian suggests a bacon sarnie and of course the next time the person suggesting that the hangover cure is going to be lillian with a hair of the dog darling loving to hate her um so well done script writers hating kate bye now joe joe sexy heels loving to hating kating um yes we all hating kating don't we bloody woman um it is getting a bit it's a bit sorry to sound so bloody london but it is a bit last year all this chakras and all that nobody really i don't think anyone actually really talks like that anymore i think kate would be into mindful meditation probably now it's a bit more current um you know hot yogurt a bit crumb yogurt and the the the chakras and all that energy points and all that stuff that's all a bit kind of uh two thousand and five i think now it would be i couldn't disagree with you more about the chakras yes right but the person in my life it was most similar to kate order it was talked incessantly about her energy over yeah energy but not chakras yeah no she she'd moved on from that yeah but she did everything else she meditated the whole world revolved around her to be fair she was a much better mother than um kate aldridge well let's face it i think kary katana is much better than kate aldridge well what's she a mother of the year um about 10 12 years ago she was she was she was she yeah yeah yeah but that's just because she was doing and iceland advertising campaign didn't they sponsor it or something i don't think i don't think we need take any of that very seriously yes no no you you are right but um i i mostly in part agree with you she wouldn't be talking about chakras or whatever but everything else i see as being spot on the money really because i i know this woman actually she sounds awful i know you're coming you can't say can you who this woman she fascinates me this woman that you know that's like kate i don't think anybody was really like kate but i know yoko bersett that he met a few of them as well yeah i know these people are legion there are many of them my dear friends have moved to topness and according to other friends who've been to visit them there they said the whole place is full of kate aldridge even the men are like kate aldridge there's a lot of man buns going on i don't mean buttocks i mean hair man buns and um you know women in permanently in yoga trousers and um children with long hair and boys with with with long hair in ponytails and you know little boys and um a lot of a lot of patchouli yep so yes don't maybe maybe i'm just lucky enough not to know that many people like kate long may that continue sales of yoga trousers in the united states in the last two three years we've gone up to them about 800 it's something outrageous and that people are wearing them 24/7 not just doing their they're yoga in them and there's the whole man they're quite flattering actually they're quite flattering and they're kind of um uh like the peg top thing which is quite trendy now anyway so it's sort of i suppose they sort of fit in with that um if you look at the celebrity magazines like you know okay and and yeah and um now and all that shit it everybody in LA they never photographed anything else they're either somebody or other flaunting their curves you know in a um in some hideous gown on the red carpet or they're in you know clutching a smoothie something that looks you know like some sort of nuclear reactive substance in a in a in a coffee cup and uh and um and in yoga trousers and in and in um uh sweat tops there's nothing else yeah there's nothing they don't wear anything else no one has just normal clothes anymore ah we're in the business well that is the new normal isn't it do you think we should start doing um dumb tea damn yoga mats that's an idea you're blocking my chakras that's a great idea do they do they bond that that'll be that'll be on the store by the time we finish the chat or tell you you're blocking my chakras and please can have some money um oh her and her money she's just the way she did when when jennifer said i mean i love the way jennifer even jennifer is losing her temper with kate jennifer who is the she's like the mr. magoo of uh family willful blindness she she will not see what she does not want to see and even she is saying to kate okay you could give me a hand when she said why don't you peel you could peel potatoes for me kate a mother's day and kate went bodge it's mother's day and she said yes exactly she's cooking for her daughter her mother you know oh she's just unbelievable kate but but in a in a good way it's nice to have a character that's that far out and that's kind of pushes the boundaries of realism you know we have a villain in in archers in in ambridge who is believable unlike hazel woolly yeah you know she she's she's a villain but she's still human you know but do you know the part that made me nearly want to punch her well a lot of it makes her want make want to punch her but when she said she'd spent mothering sunday with linda linda said kate had come around to help her in inverted commas tidy up after the flood and linda said she wasn't much much you know darling kate she wasn't much use really because she was very upset she'd had a very unsatisfactory mother's day linda is unable to have children and always wanted them can you imagine anything more tactless than spending then going to see somebody whose home had been devastated not helping them but sitting there and complaining that your own children you know you feel neglected by the three children you've completely abandoned and and bleeding on to a woman who is unable to have children i just thought kate that just absolutely takes the biscuit hmm you are you are correct but there is another way you could look at it and you could actually say well because they have this bond and she's gone round there on the day that linda can never actually you know celebrate you know or you know be be honored i should say you know because i completely forgotten that kate and linda had had a little bit of a connection i'd completely forgotten so you know you could spin it the other way and say you know kate was really mindful of the fact this is the one day of the year oh come off it i know i said you could look at it that way i didn't say it is that polyana would you have to be to think that listen you know me i try and put a you know a nice positive sperm this i want everyone to be happy and just love each other and just cuddle up 24/7 but yeah you're right she's silly old selfish cow and now we move on to jackalie birthdo hi i'm jackin berto at jberto sanguine on the twitters i'm a housewife living in britany uh fance i managed to get through on the on the live 50th much to my surprise and an embarrassment because i i certainly didn't expect to hence i wittered on and then the frog in the next room thought i'd just nipped out for to get something from the fridge so i ended up being a bit of a ugh making a mess of it probably like i am now um i became an arches addict during my first years of working in the late 70s when the commuting from the the city of london out to rural Kent meant that i arrived home just in time to raid the fridge and listen to the arches my first big event was the death of polypurs i love neil carta i always have and i think i always will i don't have we don't hear much from him these days but i think he's a completely solid reliable character a good friend but well of course i had to test susan but that's normal i was glad we didn't when we had the old mo uh travis affair but i forgave him which something i probably never really do in real life but i felt i ought to defend my love of neil having wittered about him on the uh on the live thing bye well done for remembering mo travis's name i thought mo travis who the hell and then suddenly remembered yes well i like neil too i could quite understand why you're so fond of him jacklyn and he's a good father he stands up for himself every now and again it's a good bell ringer good bell good bell ringer oh there's so many rude jokes we can make that um he yeah he's a he's a lovely bloke that he's more and more being recognized i think by the fact that he is taking on the unlikely role of village wise woman as people keep going to visit him to you know have a chat with him um and ask his advice uh the reason he puts up with susan i guess is because it's a balancing act isn't it you have if you have a couple where one of them just refuses to be to put himself in a position where he could be possibly construed as not nice then you have the other partner who is always doing all the anger all the nagging all the complaining all the bitterness for the whole couple uh and it often happens with men where they um i find anyway in my experience that they are the ones who will happily just let their wife be the one that gets criticized by everybody and they maintain their saint-like status and i do think neil is a bit like that what are you talking about well he never neil it neil does not stand up for himself or for anybody else oh i thought you men he didn't it would never stand up for susan i got that the wrong way around i'm sorry yeah um so yeah uh but yes i do have a massive soft soft spot for him i think he's very sweet uh and it's yeah he's a he's a uh good dad and a good father-in-law to ed um when she's also lovely yeah he deserves ed deserves a nice father-in-law andrew horn happy birthday to us thank you very much andrew you're very kind uh glad you're enjoying it we are very much enjoying it we can't believe we've done does it seem like 50 to you uh no no i'm always surprised the fact that we can like bang out a show and actually crack some jokes and and have fun you know i seriously thought this would be like an eight week wonder if i can understand i really did you know but no you met me and thought i've only put up with her for eight weeks now any more than that i'll kill her but no yeah it's it's been it's been absolutely lovely and without wanting to just repeat myself you know and this is gonna sound really quite cheesy but it's actually true but you know it's the community of listeners and the fact that people do call in and do email in and uh you know you're doing something right when people don't just listen but actually people want to participate so yeah yeah yeah it's been lovely it's one of the nicest things in my life don't you come but i still have more in my posse than you ever knew yours i know i know maybe i'll get a pussy posse ah god s diva can be in my pussy posse there we go there's our call uh she's gonna have to know she's gonna have to decide she can't be in both you know she falls the way into my group she elbowed away into your pussy posse he's either one group or the other goddess besides now she's team me she so is uh anyway that's it and of the calls right well let's take five and then come back with a little bit of milli and then we'll do hashtag the arches tweet to the week good day everyone it's milli bell here there's not much to report from our page today because we were mainly talking about the 50th anniversary and trying to keep royal chipper when things got a bit frustrating with the recording side so i just thought i'd do a bit of a roundup today of the other facebook sites where you can also talk about the arches if like me you sometimes feel a little isolated in your face-to-face contact because there's no one i can talk to the arches about as most of you probably know there was one site that was uh had a big membership and it was run by uh Headly Nick who plays Kathy uh she doesn't play Kathy recently but normally she plays Kathy and that closed down i think they just got too many people who joined very very quickly after the message board closed down in the the radio for message board closed down and i think it just kind of lost its small sort of feel and it became a bit hard to manage and she has got other things to do so that closed down and then some others opened up and they are largely run well they're all run by real arches addicts so one of the ones is arches Anonymous which is run by Jo Bolta who is from Canada and she was very active on the original page and she runs a nice friendly debating ship there so if that's your bag then go there there are sorry there are also some appreciation pages the ones i know about are the Jim Lloyd the Eddie page Kaltrow Gorham Tony Archer the David Archer one is worth looking at because Tim often makes an appearance there so go back to the pages um amperage view now that's a rather fun sight because the admins on there often pose questions or run little quizzes or games at the weekend so if you want if you have a idle 20 minutes or so that's absolutely worth going to to get involved in the games on there um there's also arches appreciation group now they're a very robust group and they they have no problems with deviating from arches conversations they post spoilers every week and they're rather fun because you have to work out which one is actually not the real spoiler and the last one i was going to talk to you about is upstairs at the ball which i think is a closed group but if you're interested in joining then you can apply and the reason i'm very fond of this group is there is a gentleman who is a member there called Stuart Arendelle and those of you that were on the original facebook page will remember that he used to do a fantastic advent calendar and he also ran the worst character of the week now they're rather fun and he always has a theme and they're rather fun because you can get involved in it but my favorite bit about it is he creates an award every week for whoever wins and of course Kate's been winning a lot later for obvious reasons and the graphics are fantastic they are really good and i often see the uh BBC for official ones for the arches and i think Stuart should be doing this because he really has got an eye for detail so i recommend that if you are interested in voting for the worst character of the week he sometimes does the best character of the week but largely it's the worst character of the week and it's great fun and he has all sorts of themes it might be something to do with natural health and chakras because that might be something that came up that week they're great fun really really recommend them of course i very much want you to stay with our page two where we get to talk about our favorite podcast dumpty dum i also listen to the arches as a podcast but it's actually a radio program so that doesn't count as my favorite podcast so looking forward to seeing you on there will all catch up and i'm so excited that i'm now 51 this is 51 episodes and i'm hoping i'm starting to think about well what can we do for our hundredth so stick with us and i'll see you next week ciao thank you miss bell why don't we Lucy do your hashtag the arches tweets of the week yes goddess diva she's very good at this about um heather pet she said heather pet is fine with her iceland meal for one no really not the bother it's very sad to win she's told to win to heathers today oh no i'm fine pet what do you think no you're not one minute your entire family's moving up there the next day bang they're not anyway uh heather self who is h self tax so she's a tax advisor maybe she is somebody who is passionate about tax we'll have to ask her um she was responding to the hashtag where is scruff said he went to crofts and missed the train back counselor rangel sutton we do have an awful lot of counselors you know you say that every time i know but it's done she's me anyway she said probably not the first to say it but quote uh free to fry much loved wife and cook passed away quietly um sam farmer said to pack has just been mentioned on the arches after his god breathe yes that was an unusual reference for the arches but i didn't love the idea of uh joe pinpin it up in his fur coat and um if we had any ham uh was talking about the sweet of the week yes sorry she was talking about the um the return of prestige hurrah and she said i have never been jilted at the altar in a small village but if i had and they were catastrophically flooded i would laugh and laugh and laugh very good i would also that's it oh okay well oh you got a terrible cough there you got broke kitus it's not going you're very chesty you need to rub something on that chest deals stop it you mean it's just giving you absolute advice sorry thank you very much yes i will do that right now what's the web camperals um being as we are done i think we should wrap things up folks uh now mmm shop news uh we've got a shop buy some stuff because that'd be great that's that's the end of shop news because i know you're all sitting on the edge of it how's it say sitting on the edge of you seats there that's not really true because some people listen whilst the walk whilst they go walking or running so a lot of people take us to bed with them that's true that's true how many people you slept with Lucy it's probably in the thousands tens of thousands now i haven't got time you loose woman you know what i do lie it's very strange on 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and tailed oh i hope not no then you're next to people's feet horrid yeah i was talking to cardboard about um how kind of what was it we were talking about hang on you better expect you mean you mean your daughter cardboard rather than anti-cardboard because i was yes sorry sorry sorry my daughter i'm really worried about that chesty or you know i'll worry about i'll keep me on my own chest thank you so much now she's thinking of taking sociology for her options yeah and and i says what do you want to do sociology the truth of matter is she really likes a sociology teacher who's also her humanities teacher okay and but she said oh because you look at society and how society have changed and and then she talked about the nuclear family which is an expression which is hard to use anymore isn't it nuclear family seems to be you know you know yeah go go in that window yeah but and then she said and i said what is the nuclear family and she said well it's a family but has other people as well meaning extended family but that's not a nuclear family no okay and then she talked about then we kind of talked about how families have changed into becoming nuclear family and and i i didn't really realize we're just in my family alone um there's a pattern of migration which has been absolutely classic for for immigrants absolutely classic and i kind of explained it to her and i said so when my grandfather my mother's father first came to the uk you came in the early 1960s and so the british government was saying you know come over to that was the windrush stuff wasn't it well yeah he was he's about 12 years after windrush but it's it's within that movement of of immigration from from the west indies so they asked for able men to come over to to work into fact working the factories because of his labor shortage so he came over by himself i saved up all of his money and then what was so what he would do he would send somebody back to jamaica to look after his family in jamaica but then he saved up all his extra money to pay for his um for his family members to come over one by one so and he had seven kids i believe so and they came over one by one you know my mom came over with with my grand then my aunt he made six months later etc etc so i remember in the early 70s going around to grandma and grandpa's house and there were um it was only a three-bedroom house but my god there were loads of them living there and in in uncle ken's room there was uncle ken used to sleep there with with bob and with uncle john and they were you know top and tailed in the bed and then it there was auntie annette auntie auntie uh auntie either and then charm top and tailed in another room and then auntie pearl had just left and it was just absolutely you know as a little kid it was just normal that's just what happened looking back it was bloody bonkers yeah you know and and of course as everybody got older and then got jobs these are the kids and then got went to university people moved out one by one but and it was just kind of you know it was really kind of quite vivid explaining to marisha that actually that is very similar to like polish immigration now you know coming into the country where people kind of budge up into a house because um it can't afford not to and then slowly but surely as they become economically more entrenched into you know society then they move out get their own places etc you know and um it was just kind of fascinating because i've never thought about it before you know that in my lifetime alone i've seen this kind of classic uh you know portrayal of economic migration into into the uk and actually how it plays out within a household yeah yeah hmm just that she's going to do um sociology yeah she wants to do that she wants to do history because they chip off the old block in that respect and they're good at the dead part of it that way and a history syllabus actually looks brilliant um so there's um british empire this first world war decolonialization and they use india and kenya as the examples there's um eu you know it's not just all the tutors yeah you know which i get bloody bored of yeah you know as important as important as they are but you know british history is basically the romans came they went 1066 and lisabeth the first henry the eighth first world war and you're like wait wait a minute there's a bit more to it than that and it didn't all happen to the top two percent of the population either there were some other people yeah exactly exactly but anyway we're just telling not to do media studies uh well actually oh she's not no no i've actually said to her well her mom's keen for her to do me well said look it's it's an option she actually even did a podcast last week did she yeah yeah yeah but it sounds to me more like some kind of radio play because they have to it's it's about it's about drug abuse right and then people have to play different roles within it and then be interviewed so it's a place not really a podcast but the way the way they listen to the kids are saying we still do a podcast and of course these are all that's a bit new fangled we'll have that have some of that but really it's had more like drama studies to me right um uh and i'm i'm on the edge of media studies i'm like what's the point really yeah but mom says well you really be able to help her with that and i was like well i don't know so much really but anyway she's gonna do uh combine science and i'm missing something out but she was uh yeah it was all kind of parents evening evening the other day and options and uh she's all excited he's gonna be a big girl wow mmm i can't i can't remember can you remember doing your options absolutely i did this sounds like you are leading me down a certain path to tell another one of my long-winding stories no i'm not because my friend is going to ring the doorbell any minute i bet anyway quick then yeah quick i did art yes needlework technical drawing history and chemistry and when i when i exactly when i picked them my head of house mr hilton said brown get in my office oh you want drug because brown he legit says this is a joke needlework so he said it's a joke yeah he said needlework and i went yeah i'm doing needlework so i'm gonna be a fashion designer oh of course i forgot yeah yeah because that that hence the whole christ shop thing and whatever and uh i was the only boy in the city of Birmingham and i think probably the only boy in like the midlands that did needlework uh yeah because and i was quite clear i'm gonna be a fashion designer i don't care i'm doing it and uh so i did and he says you cannot do it and the letter went home to my parents and the mum and dad wrote that back says that's what he's doing and um so that's what i did so i did in the last two years of school i was the rugby playing boy that did needlework oh there you go the only thing i remember about school interviews is um going to see this careers advisor who had one of floating voices where's like kind of squelk for Ellie and um she said to me she did well you have to do this questionnaire thing and then it tells you that you should be a farmer or something and um firefighter and uh so i did this questionnaire and i already knew i wanted to do the whole thing was bloody ridiculous so i sat there and um she said well she said looking at laurie lulk have you ever considered speak sleropy and i said no have you and then i got sent out so that was it the end of i was surprised i have to go because the professor is ringing the door ball i need to go and let them in all right then goodbye you can be free but take care dumpty dum was a Royfield brown production do you know what else is a Royfield brown production the new fabby foodie podcast let's eat in the first episode i enjoy a brazilian have an in-depth chat with star bake-off winner john wait and there is gin and coffee with the man from starbucks all on let's eat for an emus bush of the 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