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Dum Tee Dum Episode 46 – Whoops it didn’t record however here is an Interview with a lifer.
Dum Tee Dum Episode 46 – Whoops it didn’t record however here is an Interview with a lifer.
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- Duration:
- 53m
- Broadcast on:
- 18 Feb 2015
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This podcast is a Roy Field Brown production. Find others on iTunes. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, please remain standing for the singing of our national anthem. So Britain is just a small island that no one pays attention to. A former colony won the way to determine its own destiny. Hello and welcome to Mid-Atlantic, the show where we look at the news and the views from one side of Atlantic from the perspective of the other. My name is Roy Field Brown and I'm ably assisted by my two brothers from another mother. Over in Dublin we have Mid-Atlantic, political and cultural chit chat from across the pond. Find it on iTunes, Stitcher and all other good podcatchers today. This episode of Dumb Didar is sponsored by Lickety Like on the film show. The chap's called hammered and he's so lovely. It doesn't matter if you come in twice a day. Don't tell anyone. Thank you very much. Hi, it's Jim Bay. I'm 11 and I'll be playing this tune on our homemade kazoo. This is Dumb Didar and the Sherbet, a reality darky drama that has censored an ambridge in the heart of the Midlands. I'm the Red Heart Chili Peppa that is Roy Field Brown and this week I don't have the flatland bean that is Lucy Freeman because of a technical hitch. Simply Lucy and our conversation did not record this week so the bad news is there's no monologue but I suppose the good news is there's nothing for me to interrupt either. Every week I say that you the listeners are the most important part of the show and this week that is proven to be true because listener Alice and Seagantala has come to the rescue. She sent through in December an interview that she did with her mother-in-law talking about 60 art years of listening to the archers. It's things like this that make Lucy and I realise that we have a wonderful community of Dumb Didumbers that not only listen and download the show but also want and are willing to contribute and to lay testament to the beautiful world of Borsicher and how they discovered all things ambridge. So this is a special episode in which Alice and Isabel talk about 60 years of the archers of which I've intercut with your calls. Lucy and I will see you all again next week for a rip roaring puntastic edition of Dumb Didumber but please enjoy this special one off. I'm here with Isabel. Isabelle Griffith says I've been listening for a very long time. Isabelle, what year did you first start listening to the archers? Well probably 1951 when it started I do have a vague recollection of it being on there at my grandparent's house. So who if I can help? I would be seven. So you were seven when the program first started to be broadcast? Yeah, seven or eight. Yes I think so and I suppose being on a farm then that really did sort of resonate although it was a very old-fashioned farm even in those days. Did it have any impact on the way that your parents and grandparents formed? Did it accomplish its original question? No, I don't think it did with them because he was so set in his ways and really it wasn't a big enough farm for him to afford to buy a lot more equipment. He just kind of went on in the same way I think as far as I can remember. Never had a tractor, just had a few cows, a few pigs. They had a they mowed their own hay, made their own hay, they had chickens and Orchard but just it was just a bit bigger than a small holding. And so when the program started it was Doris and Dan, right? That's right. And were they the only sort of archers family at all? No, Phil was there. Phil was there. Yeah, I'm Christine. And Jack, Peggy's first husband, I don't think they were in the pub then because I think they had a small holding themselves or a market garden. I don't really remember that very well, but Phil worked on the farm with his father and he was the one who always wanted them to be doing more innovative stuff. Oh, so he was the modernist, driving this change. Yeah, the world's right. Hello, I'm bridge 3962. Hey, you too. It's a goddess David Bailey, live from Bristol Hospital just late and for a transfer to Fel profession in general. I hope to be housed in the same ward as Tony since his recovery has been not the short miraculous, Fel profession Hogwarts or careless farmers. Okay, I haven't got anything to say about me on your buck. I'm not listening to it. Yeah, but keep going with the good work, going to stay for out of rest. And yeah, throughout. What do you remember about it from when you were young? What did it mean to you when you were younger? It was just something that was on it. Just after tea time, I suppose it was for us or just before bedtime. I suppose the music was very, you know, I mean, that's just part of it, isn't it really? Just suppose the characters and there was a really old guy in it, village local called Walter Gabriel, and he had a very distinctive voice. I've heard about Yes. And Nelson. Yes. Oh, yes. Nelson. I don't think Nelson was in it at the beginning, but Walter was yeah, male, pal, male, beauty. And there was a local baker called Dewey Hood. He was about the same era, I think, as Walter. They, yeah, he'd been a sailor, as far as I recall. I think Walter did have a farm, but I think he'd be tired by the time I was listening. Were you seriously? Were there young people in it at the time as well? Well, I think it's huge. And Chris, no, I'd know. That's something that's definitely come with more recent years. You hear much more of the children when they are children. I don't remember that. Certainly not in the early days. Because they were really just establishing the calm then I suppose. And they got married and had children. And I suppose nobody knew it was going to. No, I don't think anybody ever had a clue that was going to last this long. I don't remember. I don't even remember. Well, I suppose Jack and Peggy, their children, were mentioned. And then when they were a bit older, sort of teenager, say, you did hear Jennifer and Lillian and Tony. What was Tony like when he was young? He can't talk to me because there's such, he's such a diver, isn't he? There's such meat being made now of how Peggy always was critical of them and overlooked him. Yes. Obviously, I don't know if that was true at the time. Well, I think when he and Pat decided to farm organically, I think Peggy being, she's quite an astute business woman, really, thinking back. I think she was a bit doubtful as to whether they'd really make a go of it. And I mean, obviously, it doesn't pay anything like the way that Brian's enterprise has put out of the corner. That looks as if it's come into a crashing altar floor. Yes. Well, see, won't we? There's four people. But I do. I remember Lillian getting married to her, certainly to her first husband. But I can't honestly remember when that was, no. Late six, two, three, seven rooms. Hi there, you two. It's Andrew Horn here. I love the little character shorthand between the couple that have evolved over the years, particularly when they have humor attached to them. And the one that had me chortling away this week was Neil. And when Neil was going to get very, very tough, supposedly, with Tom and Susan was, oh, I might buy the ingredients for a chili. And then that obviously has overtones for, with their shorthand for a chili and then a good helping of afterwards afterwards. So it had me chortling away, particularly when she was so excited to find out how it had got on. It's obviously what gets her going. Anyway, love it, and love last week's show. And if Roy Fields is getting all the glory with his pussy posse, then Lucy wants to start one up, your own little gang, then sign me up. Speak to you soon. Bye. Talk before about how you remembered sort of the big event of the audience in those days. The fire. Well, that was the night tonight TV started. So it was meant to be a complete spoiler. What do you remember about it? It seems to be sort of a pivotal point in the program. Yeah, I just remember the the fire. You could hear the sort of crackling event, you know, the fire and the horses sounding very distressed. And I think Kristin must have been there as well, because it was Kristin and Grace at around the stables. And they were battling to get the horses out. And they did get most of that. And then Grace remembered it some midnight, wasn't it? It was still in there and Phil shouting to her to come back. And then there's awful crash and scream and you know, and then the music played. Good Lord. Yeah, but it did leave us all feeling a bit stunned. A bit shaken. Yeah, I was quite a bit shaken by the the bull gory. Oh, yeah. Basically, I think a lot of people thought it was quite funny, but for somebody who would you quite quite sort of that? I think those are bad sounding, but I think those are really nasty. Yeah, they're very very unpredictable to the people who grew up in the country. I mean, it's absolutely possible to think that's something like that could happen. Yeah, oh sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was a bit, you know, just it just seemed as if it was just one thing after another when we'd had all the other thing. But no, I thought that was really quite well done and very frightening because I remember the very unpredictable beast even the guy to stop them. Hello, it's Dusty Substances here, the wrong sort of listener. It's Thursday. And I heard the episode yesterday evening where nobbers started beating up the Hunt Saboteur and Shuler witnessed it all. And then there was all that lying. And I think we have reached a critical point in this narrative. I don't think we're even remotely in the endgame territory, but I think it's really going to ratchet up a notch or two now. Shuler is clearly going to see some major disconnects between what she saw and what she heard Rob telling Helen. I think she's going to have some real thinking to do about this. But don't forget the Simon Pemberton situation where she felt huge guilt that she didn't warn off Debbie and Debbie ended up getting a complete walloping from the appalling Simon Pemberton. So with that in mind, Shuler may well, when push comes to shove, actually try to let Helen know that there's more to Rob than meets the eye. And this is going to be the increasingly irascible and erratic Rob's opportunity to start isolating Helen from her family. He's going to realize there is danger now in her having anything to do with Shuler, and that can only get worse. And I think we're going to see a real difference in his approach to the family and other people are going to start worrying, but I think we've got a long way to go yet. It's really very good, I think. But moving on to more serious matters, I was at polls when Jennifer was interviewed by such a clueless pillop on Radio Bautista or whatever it's called, what's it called? It's called Radio Bautista. All of a sudden I've lost confidence in anything I'm saying. Anyway, whatever Radio Bautista is called, they would not have employed even a work-experience person who couldn't remember somebody's name and they're just about to go live on there. So I need to know where is Wayne Foley? He was ubiquitous. We could always rely on Wayne Foley turning up with his radio car, but I really miss him now. Has he been head-combed by Radio 2? Or has he been sacked due to impropriety? I think we should be told. I think we need him back. I feel so strongly about this that it could be a case of me writing in the streets outside the mailbox with a placard and I don't think anybody would really want that. So bring back Wayne Foley. So you grew up and you went into the RAF and were you listening then as well? No, I don't think I was listening then. I think there was quite a big gap once I left home. There was quite a big gap until, as I say, we picked it up again, strangely enough, from around in Cyprus and there we used to get it played over the FBS and it was on the final. So there was definitely one occasion when the needle got stuck and you just heard Tom Forrest repeating something over and over again. I mean, obviously whoever was doing the continuity at the radio station wasn't really listening because it just went on for quite a noticeable time. Was it something coming to RAF member station overseas? Wasn't it the archers? Was it a link bag? I mean, I think certainly in those days what we could get on the radio was generally the FBS and British forces broadcasting service. They just put out what they put out and the archers was in the schedule and that was it. I mean, I don't think there was really much choice at all. And where we were, we were up in the mountains in Cyprus. We couldn't get any TV at all. You know, there was no reception. I think people in, you know, in limousine places like that, they had TV but we were very much relying on the radio. So I think that's probably when I really picked it up again and started listening once we came back home. And when was that? What year was that? We came back to the UK in 1969. Yeah. Yeah. So I probably followed it more or less off and on since then. And what was happening in '69 on the program weren't there about? I mean, I don't, you could pinpoint it. But I can't, honestly, I can't remember. Because what we used to get out in Cyprus was behind the times anyway. So it was being broadcast in the UK. I really, you know, my memory is very hazy for all that. Probably that might have been the era when Jennifer had her illegitimate concern, Adam, which was a great deal of shock and horror. Did you have people your parents generation saying, I can't be happy with this. I can't listen. I'm just going to stop listening to the archers. I don't know. I don't remember that they did because I mean, that's the situation that's as old as time anyway. I mean, there were a few people that thought it was a bit outrageous, I suppose. But it did seem to reflect fairly, not unusual, admin, shall we say. Kind of a changing with the only way. Yeah. I suppose it was kind of round about them when Lillian got married the first time. She was very much involved in the stages as I recall. I think she, you know, she still rides. You see, doesn't she? I'm not sure. Yeah, she does. You think as far as I can tell, Lillian, she just drinks gin and tics. Well, it's just a nip thing. No, no, she, I'm sure she was, because Kristin picked up with the stables again after this great disaster. Where is Kristin now? Well, she, she's in it sometimes. I mean, she still lived in the village and she and Jim got quite friendly. They were doing crosswords together when they remember. Someone calling about that last time she was making scones. You know, he would go around for reasonable in coffee and have scones and try and do the crossword. Yeah, someone called in about that last week to say that that was how they had learned to do the cryptic crosswords by listening to the archery. Oh my goodness. And that's what drew them in because they had been struggling with that on their own. And independently began to listen to the radio program and it worked. Wow. Hello, it's Cosmo here again. And it's only three weeks until my next holiday. Last week's podcast was a surprise and that we were also agreed over the quality of the content that is over the standard is maintained. I realized that new Tom is supposed to have returned as a grownup. The audience he granted to Neil was no doubt intended to demonstrate this maturity. What a pity that the changes were hidden behind an absence and a very bland voice. Having been rejected by everyone else, I did wonder a little while ago if the parents of Phoebe, who both frankly lack any sign of maturity, might rekindle their childish infatuation by ending up in bed together. Perhaps if Roy Cooks are a vegan soup for old timesake it might still happen. By now the child maintenance service should be chasing Rob with an attachment of earnings order through the court because they have no reason not to consider him the father of Jess's baby. Given Shuler has had her own beating in the past from Simon Pemberton, I cannot see why she would even consider lying to save Rob from his just desserts. So will Rob be receiving two invitations to attend court about the same time. Once again, the space-time fabric of the village was bent without reference to a time-lord, Friday was allegedly Saturday. The most revealing comment was Adam's apparent ability to keep his mouth closed, unless of course Charlie is round his tongue down it. In addition, at least three, if not more, the lost villagers were mentioned in dispatches, Christine, Alastair and Kathy. Amazing that Alastair is around, given that he always seems to be missing at a conference. Finally, did I actually hear Helen lies from Rob about Henry not going to bed? Given she has so much on her mind as Rob keeps telling her it is hard to see how she's going to find time to work full-time. Surely getting properly cooked meals prepared from scratch on the table in time for Rob's return from work and going out to beat up innocent followers of the hunt is far more important than running a shot, which almost closes this week, except for a port I have been visiting that London again and had the opportunity to see Tams in Greg in action in her underwear on Thursday evening. Bonkers play, wonderful acting and entertainment, which reminds me I still managed to arrange that drink with Lucy and Royfield, but he's a bit far away these days. Sorry about that. Time to go, we'll be back soon. So you moved to Birmingham in '69? Oh no, no. We were in, first of all we were in Lincoln and then we were in Whitney in Oxfordshire. We didn't come here until '72. And it's being recorded just down the road at that point, right? Well, that's true. Yes, it comes from Birmingham. Yes, it was always a Midlands based programme. It's hard to pick out any sort of chronological order the things we remember. I can remember Peggy's mum used to be in it and she was at Stalvoort for a long time, Mrs Perkins, Mrs Pea and she and Walter Gabriel were very pally and there was always this sort of pre-song between them. It never really got to anything more than that and he was very put out when somebody else came to the village. I can't remember who it was and he used to take Mrs. Oh no, Mrs Perkins had a Ponian trap, that's right. And she used to take the trap. Yeah, yeah, she used to trot around in a Ponian trap. And then there was the Australian connection. Dan's aunt Laura came over from Australia and settled back in Ambridge. She was at Nightingale Farm. I'm not sure what's happened to Nightingale Farm now. Can I go over it? Yes, that's where she was for a long time. She'd been married to a farmer. I think a sheep farmer out in Australia. But she was quite on her survey character. She was almost like Linda, but not quite so that much. But I mean, she was very blunt in speaking what was on her mind. So she ruffled quite a few feathers. And of course, Tom Forest was Doris's brother. He was a gamekeeper. He was in it, you know, he was, I think he was one of the originals and he was in it really right up until the actor died as far as, you know. Not in a few times, doesn't it, that an actor has passed away in as a result. Yes, characters had to be real as well. Yeah, well, that happened to Jack Woolley, Peggy's second husband. He'd also happened to Nigel's mother. I forgot my name with the actress. Yes, she died very suddenly. I think she died when they were, you know, at the mailbox as it is now. She was taken and died on more or less on the spot. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I think so. That was quite dramatic. But I suppose because they record reasonably far in advance, they've got a way of looking for him. Yeah. And they do occasionally slot in a very topical reference anyway, if you notice. They've kind of seemed to be able to squeeze that, you know, just a sentence or two, something really dramatic's happened in the week. I don't know. Such as. We were all talking at the time of the referendum, everyone was wondering, "Is Jasmine going to have to go back? Is he going to be deported? He's crazy." Everybody loves Jasmine. Yeah. He's really grown on me. I wasn't sure I liked him too much at the beginning. He seemed a little unconstructed. Yeah, well, I thought it probably is. But there you go. Do you remember listening to when Mike took us while Betty was in this? No, I don't. She was a good character. I heard listening only about it less than a year ago properly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she was a good character. She ran the village shop and she was just really nice. But the actress wanted to retire, because she wanted to go and spend more time with her grandchildren. I think they're in Australia or something like that. So they kind of killed off the character. So that was a bit sad. And then Vicki came on the scene and everybody was horrified when Mike took up with her. I think Roy was absolutely shocked. I mean, and Brenda, she didn't really take her at all to begin with. I don't know. I just think they found her a bit overpowering, because she was rather... She was so different from them, I suppose. But, yeah, they've all warmed her in the end. Yeah. I think she's a really good character, Vicki. She's very much, especially when Haley finally said to Vicki, "This is what's been going on. This is what the prom has been." Vicki just immediately just feet down on the grounds and here's what you need to do. Here's how... Here's a way to think about it. No misgivings about whose side she should be on, anything like that. No, here's the business. Yeah. Yeah. She is very down to the... But it's a shame that they're all being, you know, moved out. I mean, if they really are going to go. Do you think they will? I don't know, because the house sales just fallen through. It hasn't been there. We think. Yeah. Well, that's what it said. It was on the other night. It was the fourth one. Well, no, I heard it on the train. Yeah. The fourth sales side has come to mind. The sole side is off. The sole side is off. Yeah. But we haven't heard it from the... No, worse than that, good work. I'm trying to remember what Mike did before he... Because he was Devros. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's so. I just I'm struggling to remember that bit. What he did before. It took a lifetime to find the person you want to marry. Finding the perfect engagement ring is a lot easier. At bluenile.com, you can find or design the ring you've always dreamed of with help from blueniles jewelry experts who are on hand 24/7 to answer questions and the ease and convenience of shopping online. 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Visit Colorado.chefron.com For he kind of got more into what he got into the milk round business and also he did various training to do with, you know, woodsmanship. So that was one of his strengths. Neil worked for Phil Archer. He looked after the pigs when Phil was in charge at Brookfield. They had these separate sort of unit poetry from where the pig unit was based and that was Neil's. He kind of came. He was quite young when he came on to the scene. He had a bit of a thing for Sheila for quite a while. It's a very incestuous isn't it? Everybody ends up getting off of an architecture. There's a little friend that meant to marry Tom at one point. Yes, yes. And then her brother goes and has an affair with Tom's auntie. Well, we're all sort of all three. And Hailey, who's married to Roy, was going out with John. Oh yes, I mean, no. No, it's all but Taylor. Yes, I know, I thought, poor old Hailey, that's ridiculous. You know, first of all, John broke her heart. Now Roy's done exactly the same. Yes, she did have a rather raw deal, but never mind. There are a couple of characters that come in from, you know, beatings are over and over again. Yeah, I mean, never seems to have been bit through the mill. Mind you, a lot of the back was over her own making. And Susan went to prison. Did you know that? She spent Christmas in prison one day. Is that because of, was that the thing in the dairy, when all the young people were like, "No, no, no, it wasn't that." Susan's brother, Clive Horrok, and who's a real no good boy? He held up the village post office. Yeah, where was it guys? Oh, we can count. Yeah, um, I can't remember. Probably it's about 10 years ago, possibly even more. And Susan wasn't there. I'd forgotten. I think Jack Hawley was in the shop at the time. I've forgotten. I suppose it was Betty Tucker. I don't think anybody was hurt, but of course they were traumatized. And Clive was identified, I think. There might have been another person involved. Anyway, whoever it was knew that Clive was involved. And sometime after, he turned up at Susan's house, I suppose, when they were still living on the green, didn't exactly blackmail her, but, you know, emotional blackmail into taking him in and hiding him or something. Or making, I think he asked her for money. Certainly begged her not to reform the police, which she didn't. But then, I think, obviously, it all came out in the end. And she was put on trial for aiding and abetting. God, where's Clive now? You still? I think he's still banged up as well as I know. Yeah. He also attacked some of the horses in the stable. Yeah, you do really a nasty piece of it. Yeah, he is. So poor old Susan, she's always struggling to escape from her family. Her jailbreak cards. Well, it's just that her family's got a terrible, I mean, the horribins were always like the real low light of the village. They always did get a very, you don't tell so much about horribin. No, you don't. You don't, because she was looking after a doctor, wasn't she? And then her sister, Tracy, turned up. She seems to be there at the moment. Hello, it's so good we're here. First thing I want to say is a huge get-well thing to go to Steve who's proper poorly and in hospital. So proper worried about her. What I want to talk about is Kate Roy's. Yeah, go Roy, go Jennifer. You know, really putting Kate in a place and pointing out stuff like this. But it was what it's made really like. It's thinking back over kind of the whole history of Kate and Roy. I've been thinking about kind of some of the complaints about the way the arches is going. And actually thinking about it, these kind of plot behinds aren't new to the arches. I think there's just too many of them. When you look at kind of Roy's and Kate, you know, he'd be being born in the tents in Glastonbury. Kate having an affair with Gibson loads and loads of kind of drama. But I think the problem is is that the plot line takes so long at the moment and then more and more introduced. And then you kind of lose track a little bit. Second thing I want to talk about is a titching of God smacking in the face of a shovel. Or yeah, it's just, I think people are going to suss him out now. The whole thing was interesting. And I think people are going to start realizing that there's a real nasty edge to him, which is great. The problem is, are they going to be able to convince talent? Or has she been kind of, you know, gaslight? It's so much that she genuinely, genuinely believes that Rob's writing everything. But it's awful to listen to. But kind of in a horrible way, kind of addictive as well, because you know, you want to get to the point where she realizes and she breaks away from him. But in the meantime, I'm comfortable listening and I'm brilliantly active, but uncomfortable. Anyway, that's me. Bye. So what do you think about the recent developments in our bridge? Any other ones? I just think it's too much all at once, really. I mean, I could accept the business about the role of development, because I'm sure that's happening. I could accept the business about this mega dairy. That's happening. I could anticipate that a bull would be a dangerous creature to have around. And going back a little bit further, I didn't really anticipate Tom and Kirsty's wedding being quite so typically soap opera. You know, I mean, I kept thinking, oh, surely they're not going to do that. It's just such a cliché, isn't it? So, I mean, on all the soaps, if somebody's getting married, you start thinking, well, what's going to go wrong? Somebody? I mean, really? Yeah. It's just a classic. But you said it happened before. Emma didn't. Oh, she did. Yeah, she walked around the church child a few times. She couldn't quite make her go by, but in the end, she went ahead with it. Yeah. Yeah. But that's why there's such a poisonous relationship between that and Will. But Will's got Nick now. He seems to be perfectly happy. So why you can't move on, I don't know. He's just such a misery. Jesse, and Bitter is the word for it. Yeah. He's really, you know, sour, I think. What do you think about the Robin Helen storyline? That sort of, that creeping domestic abuse kind of thing that's going on? It's been really well received, actually. Oh, yes. I think as a story line, it's simply totally believable. And you keep wanting her and to shake herself up. You know, I think surely in the end, you'll get this come up. Well, I hope so. I just, it was just a little background thing. But when, when they were having the rehearsal to play the other evening, the play of where Helen plays a second wife home, when it goes to the first time, you know, Linda and Alice got into some sort of argument about a vacation. But you could just hear Helen in the back going, I'm really sorry, can I go home? I said I'd be home by nine. I promised I'd be home by nine. I could just hear the doors slamming shut. Do you know what I mean? Like she's terrified of being late. She's terrified of doing it. She's not even doing it. She doesn't even prove excuses as well. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yes, it's uh, but she, yeah, she's a character that's certainly had more than a fair share of troubles. We were eating disorder in her. I mean, I'd be coming back. People are saying she's not eating. She keeps showing up at places saying she'd eaten where she was before. Oh, really? Classic sort of, yeah, tip off, yeah. Well, she needs to get her acting at the because she's got a little boy to go after now. That's true. And who knows what's going to happen with the um, with the grandparent childcare daycare that it has been running for a while. Yeah. Tony. I was very moved by Peggy's beat at the bedside. Yeah. Given the scenarios that the writers have got, they certainly some of the exchanges between the characters have been really good. The only ones I really don't buy are David and Ruth because they just seem to be completely out of character from their whole, the whole way they've farmed ever since they've married and took over Brookfield really. I just, you know, this business of, well, if the road goes through, we won't be able to farm and that's it. You know, we're going to go somewhere else. And I mean, why go all the way up north? Well, it's densely because of Heather. Well, exactly. I think a lot of people are thinking that there's not going to be around. I was going to say the Martin's theory is why is this your brother away? Yeah, might move them all the way up north when Heather is a character that is very rarely heard. Okay, she's there in the background. They're not going to shut down Brookfield and move all the action up north because they could only, they might only be there for a, I don't know, before she, she pegs out herself. To begin with, it was Ruth that was really pushing, wasn't it for them? We've got to think about what we'll, what we'll do if push comes to shove. And then David just seems to jump on board and that was it. It does seem so odd when you have Heather living alone in Prada, whereas Ruth has come down and Heather's not going to come south, but Jill, who's a matriole of New York, has said all go north. I think Jill's going to say the last minute, I'm not going. I think so. I think Jill's going to pull out and say, I think Carol's going to have something to do with that. I said, it's really hope so. But I think it's just appalling, you know, to imagine that she, although she did say if Brookfield goes to somebody else, I don't think I'd want to be around to see it. Yeah. So that is unbelievable. Well, your sister has a theory that it's all about the water. Yes. Yes. Oh, definitely. I mean, they keep mentioning things like that. Definitely, there was a, somebody got flooded that didn't normally get flooded. There was a problem with the water trucks in Ed's house pasture. There was somewhere they were driving up, was it driving up Lake Hill or somewhere? There was a outbreak, there was a outbreak that had collapsed, and that had never happened before. Jill Grundy is making all the most pronouncements of always river. Oh, yeah. That's right. And it's very bright in this world, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. You know, I'm thinking that they won't be able to build the road because the ground would be so marshy. Now, of course, that would ruin a farm as well, if it's a cattle farm, because they just turn the ground up. Well, true, it may be that that's happening because of something that's going on at the mega dairy or the, you know, something that they've done. The runoff is in that thing. Well, yeah. Or something that they did when they were building it has, you know, disrupted things. Yeah, my theory and my hope is that just to know that it will go, plus something's going to happen and it's just going to go completely her shape. Will it be very hard? Now that David and Ruth have gone so far down the line, if the sail and the road and everything falls through, how are they going to re-establish their reputation? I know how they're going to face the neighbors, exactly. I mean, Linda's already. Yeah. Just doesn't, and Jim gave him such a talking dude. Yeah. But Linda will just imply things. Yeah. Look at you sideways and just make hints, but Jim is right between the eyes. So we just have to watch this move. But, you know, given their due, they've given us endless hours of argument and spectrum. That's right. That's right. That's right. Which is probably what they wanted to do. Hey, everybody. Witherspoon and Angus Haggis here. Well, the theme of this week in average was where Titchner treads trouble follows or liar, liar, pants on fire. We certainly see now that he has a hair trigger temper, is violent, and can play fast and loose with the truth. Many have raised the question is Rob consciously aware that he's deceiving others? Or is he in some way self-delusional? My experience in the office is that when kids, teenagers, and even adults try to avoid punishment, they'll look you on the eye and lie and lie and lie again. Look at Alex Rodriguez in the steroid scandal in baseball. Oh wait, we may not be aware of what I'm talking about. So yes, I think Rob is fully aware of his untruths and that indeed the kid is his. We'll see. A couple of other notes. Did you see how meek and subservient Helen was sounding at the start of the hunt? Let's see how she's going to tell old Rob that she wants to go back to work and how he's going to react to that. And did Shula appear conflicted about telling the truth to PC Burns because she was overwhelmed by Rob before she wanted to protect the hunt? Or both? We never got to hear her reply to Burns' question. At any stage, did you see Mr. Titchener strike Mr. Murphy? I hope the usual high-end mighty Shula does tell the truth. Maybe she'll seek out her frenemy Alan Franks for some guidance. One last item. I love the segment I'll title how Lillian got her group back. A couple of days with Brian and Jenny and the gang and a couple of bottles of expensive wine split with her niece Kate and she's ready to rumble again. I was a bit concerned though when she laughingly said, "Oh Kate's so much fun. I forgot how much we have in common." And Brian, can you be any less supportive of your wife? Well, I think you may hear old Angus Haggis in the background here. It's time to put on our 10 layers of clothing. It's supposed to dip below 0 degrees this weekend. That's effing Fahrenheit, my friends. So Angus is saying our time is up for this week. Till next time, Witherspoon. My last question actually, and this is quite cheeky, but some of the have, but they do ask people, "Did you ever fancy anybody?" I'm a new archer's. I've not yet found anybody because they all seem so stupid in ways that I just couldn't put on. Well, I don't know. I mean, I always had a warm spot for Nigel. I must admit, because he was such a twit, but he was so loveable. I don't really think so. I mean, when I was listening to it in my early days, I was too young to be to be doing with anything like that. By the time I really picked it up again, well, you know, I was married. I was married. You know, I'm proud. There's no one like Ray. Well, that's the truth. No, I honestly can't say that I know. I don't think I've ever had that sort of relationship with them. I've, you know, there's been times when I've really been very sad when all things have happened, you know, to carry it as well. Of course. Yeah, it's more like, more like a family relationship. Yeah, I think so. Yes, yes. Well, in that case, what's the story line you think that stuck with you the most and really sort of affected you most deeply? Oh, I don't know. I suppose there was Elizabeth being abandoned at not exactly at the airport, but there was a bloke that she had a relationship with when she was pregnant. And he just kind of done through and went off. And yeah, so she left her out in the middle of somewhere. Oh, no, I don't think I can't quite remember. And he just more or less said, well, you know, it's all over and all the rest of it. And he didn't, I think he must have known that she was pregnant, but what happened to the pregnancy? She had an abortion, which was, she was very put out by that because at the time she and Mark were not able to have a child, you know, she really gave Elizabeth a hard time. But yeah, that was quite, I mean, that was quite a strong story, really. Although, it's not, I mean, it's not that long ago. How old are the twins now? 13 ages, aren't they? Yeah. I mean, it was quite a long time before she really took up the night job. But yeah, you know, that was quite shocking, really. Yeah. Sometimes I think there's, we'll get our storyline introduced, like the vicar's daughter a couple of years back. She had a relationship with somebody who just dumped her. And for a while, that was the really main story. And she realized she'd been bled on and made it for a little bit. But no, we don't even hear about it. Well, I suppose it'll resurface eventually. Yeah, I guess. I mean, that's sort of like, oh, what's his name? He was sort of homeless and he was living with... Oh, Daryl. Yes, when he had that lovely little daughter. That's right. Yes. Rosa, yeah. What do you want to do with them? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I was thinking about him the other day. I don't know. We haven't heard them. Because last Christmas, that was really coming to a place. And that's what I really started to listen properly. I remember listening to Tom propose a kurtie in this kitchen. Yeah, oh really? Yeah. And because then the wedding, their wedding that didn't have it, obviously, was like three weeks after Matthew and I got married. It was. I remember sitting on the bed holding his hand going, "What's going to happen?" I know you said me a taste. Do you really think Tom's going to? Well, yeah. Yes, I did find that a bit silly, really. I would never be listening to this program if it wasn't for you. And you know, we joke in the house that it was me putting on my visa application, "Oh, I listened to the arches all the time." And they thought, "Oh God, we can't send her back now. What does she do? What exactly? Where does she go?" Now, my new life goal now is to play a Canadian on the arches. Oh, wow. She's probably going to Canadian. You know, because Rob's a Canadian. Debbie's husband was a Canadian. All right. What was his name? He was a university lecturer. Kind of all kind of. Simon Gerard. That's him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we guessed our Canadian. That sounds like a whole lot of fun. I think they probably had a bit. They just had somebody that came out of them, both from Canada, but only came to, I think, to stay for a while. Well, it was a relative, but it probably was a relative, wasn't it? And they also had, at one point, an ex-American GI who had known Peggy during the war. And he got real. Oh, yes. They reestablished their friendship. And Jack Woolley got very concerned because at that point that he hadn't married Peggy, and he was convinced that she was going to marry this. And I remember came over on the blandish months and, you know, whatever. But in the end, no, in the end, she went. She went for Jack. Yeah. Now that we have distinct segments with Roy Fields' ramblings, Lucy's linguistic lingerings and Witherspoon's wise words, get ready for Milly's meanderings. The book of Face has been particularly busy this week, and there seems to have been a collective sigh of relief as the episodes return to their character-driven stories. Last week, Lucy told us that Kerry, sir, Your Majesty, smells nice, which reminded me of the Scratch and Sniff books you could buy many years ago. We asked you to share with us which Ambridge residents you would like to scratch and sniff. Dennis Garro says that he likes some young, so he'd scratch and sniff Chris Carter. Might just smell a little bit horsey, Dennis. Nicholas Barnes wrote that he would scratch Rob, and he would not tell us who he would sniff, self-sensoring it on the grounds that everybody will take the mic. I am now completely intrigued, Nicholas, and Billie who have a duty to tell us all so that we can duly take the Michael. Joe Andrews said Scratch Ian and he will smell a freshly baked bread, a whiff of coffee and caramel, with a back-noted Irish whiskey, yummy, and a husband to hang on to if Adam has any sense. Cap Brown wants to sniff Rob because he gets away with so much. His proverbial must smell of roses, and Joe Miller wants to have a good sniff of Adam, who she bets smells musky and soily. And finally, Jan A. Mitchell wrote, "What fun! I'd like to reach all the way to Costa Rica with the long, long branch from a very thorny tree and Scratch Matt, heaven forbid that I should touch him. To sniff, that would have to be Carol Tovogon, with hopes that the essence of her medicinal herbs would work their magic on me." We were also intrigued by the sudden disappearance of Matt in the context of the plot lines, and Lily saying that they had been growing further apart. We posted, "Pulscat and Tiger were growing further apart even before he left. Really? What were the signs?" Nicholas Barnes said that as a couple, they featured so little it's hard to say what the signs were. Terence Skinner posted that Lily and Shagging Matt's brother was a sign. D. Leary wrote that he was affectionately hilarious over Knittinggate, though I can believe he would buy his time for revenge over Paul. Helena Dent said that Matt had gone a bit quiet, with which the wonderful, rapier-like Robert Brown responded with, "He probably didn't like to interrupt." Brilliant stuff. So keep it up, I'll see you over the coming week as we analyse the next shenanigans. The shenanigans of the archers not the shenanigans of our Dunchie Dum hosts, although I do respect getting. Hello Dunchie Dum, this is Glyn calling in at Glyn12GH on Twitter. I'm an accountant for a publishing events company. This is the first time I've called in to, first let me say it's a fabulous podcast, guys. I really love it. Thanks for doing it, please keep it up. My feeling on the archers at the moment, I feel as if I've been through four ages of new editorship. First there was the excitement in contemplating what the new editor was going to do. Then shock when he actually arrived and started changing all the storylines and they're sending Dave and Ruth up north and so on. Then sort of anger and outrage, the third age, how he could do all of these sorts of things and change all these characters or change all of the actors and so we don't know who they are. But finally I think I've come to a calm acceptance. What he's done is pretty good and the archers is now in a pretty good state. Prime example of that of course is the Robin Helen's story. I think also the gathering opening splits around the Brookfield move. These are stories where they could go in quite a number of directions and we don't really know which direction they're going to go in but it's keeping us all intrigued which I think is the essence of really good drama and so I'm going to call it a day though. Thanks again for all the great work and bye and I look forward to next week's podcast. Well thank you, it's actually no. Oh I think it's probably grand blown enough. Yeah thank you so much. I've realized there's an awful lot that I should have known and I can't remember. Well I think probably most people don't remember half of it. I mean but this is I mean there were so many people who I've met who listened to it came in five years ago, ten years ago, whatever but yeah and all of these things that you actually remember are just legendary. We're living the living or whole of the argument. Well let's write yeah we'll get you both in. Okay. Well thank you. You're Mr. Poppett. 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Dum Tee Dum Episode 46 – Whoops it didn’t record however here is an Interview with a lifer.
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