(upbeat music) Back in on Canucks Central, it's dad Rachael and Satyarika. You can tune in on Trade Deadline Day to Sportsnet 650's coverage brought to you by AJ's Pizza on East Broadway and Mount Pleasant. Try AJ's traditional New York pizza or sing it to their famous Detroit pizza. Only at AJ's Pizza or online at aj's.pizza, aj's.pizza. Friday's gonna be a big day. - Yeah. - We're on three to six, by the way. - We are. - Yeah. - Don't go to the wrong hotel. That doesn't do that anymore. - No, I mean-- - We're not at a hotel. - No, no, no. - I don't know. - I was like, I don't know what hotel we're going to get. - That's a random stray, I'm like, what? Okay. - Satyarika. - Don't go to the wrong studio. - I know, I know. - There is an extra studio. - Yeah. - I've never gone to the wrong studio. - Sat's in Toronto. - Boarding a flight. - I thought we were doing the show there, guys. - Nobody told me otherwise. - It's, all right, we've got a lot still to get to. Have they figured out the Noa Hanifand trade yet? - A prospect that Dragger tweeted out, that's going from Vegas, let me find it here. - The Neil Miramanoff. - Yeah, that's it. - So far, so far, that's not it. All right, soon. - That can't be it, there'll be more. I'm sure there'll be more. - I would hope for Craig Conroy's sake, there is more in there. Overrated, underrated, trade news trickling in over an hour. - It's the worst, man. Straight out, the one thing that Canucks are good at is like, they don't let anything get out or anything super major get out. So usually it's like, they just put out the whole trade. - Yeah, until like right at the last minute and then it's like, the press release is already coming out. It's like somebody at the league office told them, "Yeah, trade call just happened." But then the Canucks already have the release ready. - Yeah. - Harder to do in trade season like this, but we'll see, Canucks have been quiet here on a day that everybody else is very, very active. That was "The Trade Desk." It's brought to you by Jags Furniture and Mattress. Dan Riccho, Satyar Shah, it's Wednesday. It's overrated, underrated. (upbeat music) - Oh, we got producers Josh Elliott-Wolf and Ben Bassford. - Hello. So we will start with this one from Woodrow, trading a last lint home after 15 games with the team, overrated or underrated? - Overrated. Like 15 games isn't enough to give a guy a realistic chance to get settled, to find his fit with the team. It's like anything, we always say 25 games, American Thanksgiving is sort of the benchmark. First checkpoint of the season where you have a good idea of what your team kind of is. I feel the same way with Elias Lindholt. It hasn't worked out so far. I've said as much earlier in the week. I don't think that's a reason to bail on it just yet. - Yeah, not quite yet. And you got to be a little bit patient. I thought he played really well after he returned from whatever was ailing him in the first period. He played great in the second in the third. - My goodness, what a wilds, I don't know, half hour, 45 minutes that was. - Well, I mean, it was, if you were automatically assuming that he's getting traded. - Yes. - Like I find it hard. So just to like walk down Hypothetical Street with Kevin Weeks here and the three way deal. You add Gensil and lose Lindholm. Do you not still come out? Like yeah, your top six is better 'cause now you have a natural winger to put next to Patterson or Miller but you're still missing talent on the roster overall. - You still want to add a forward, not lose a forward. Now, I would say if the Canucks were to pull off something of that stature, they would also add somebody else too. Like I don't think it's a situation where the Canucks just do the Lindholm for Gensil swap and they're done. I would expect more to come if that happened. And the other thing too is I would say there's also a possibility here guys. The Canucks have Lindholm and a choir Gensil. - Sorry, I just- - What happened, what did you see? I caught what you were chuckling about earlier on the Dunbar Lumber text message inbox. - Do you want to do that now? - Don't do that now, don't do that. - I was gonna say something in the moment but then I was just like, you know what? Better not to call attention to that. - Yeah, getting some Dr. Pollock mentions and stuff. I don't know why, anyways. - Next one. - Sat's playing 40 chess with everybody. - By the way, Freedman today on one of his hits, I believe said 3D chess. And so that's another one on Sat's team. - Team 3D. - That was an L for us, I guess, I guess. - Next one from Mike. Colorado, the Avalanche, after today's trades. - Man, okay, I'll say, what is the reaction? Is it that they're great? What's the reaction? - Joe Saka and Chris McFarland are the greatest front office duo of all time. - Well, they are very bold. They're great at making trades and they're good at finding value and making deals. I don't know if they're significantly better. Like, they're shifting a little bit, right? - They shifted a little bit, I think. - Like, middle stats better than Ryan Johansson. - Johansson was a real drag for that. - He was, he was struggling. So middle stats better than him, right? - Yeah. - Walker's not better than Byrom, but he's a righty defense man. - Is Walker better right now than Byrom is? - Byrom's had some struggles, but I'd still say like, at his peak is a better player. - Yeah. - We saw it last year in the playoffs, how well. I mean, two years ago in the playoffs, how well he played. Like, I think he's capable, but, you know, should there be some buyer beware if Colorado's punting on him? - Yeah, I think it's overrated. Like, I like what Vegas did more than what Colorado did. - Everybody's worried about Colorado and hey, look. I would still power rank the Western Conference as Vegas being top after today's moves, then I would Colorado being top. So, if you're saying Colorado is the cup favorite now or the favorite to win the West, for me, that's a little hasty, and I'd say that's overrated. - Next one from discount Dracula, having trades on deadline day, overrated or underrated? - Clearly overrated, 'cause they're not making any on Friday at this rate. - Do we not make these jokes every single year though? - And then there'll be like 25 trades or 30 trades. - There's always trades on deadline day. It's just not the big trades. There won't be a lot of, you know what? We'll see, we'll probably get done before Friday, to fully doesn't get done by Friday. That'll be a name. And then we'll hear stuff like Sydney Crosby, because who mentioned Crosby today? There's somebody-- - There was word about a Crosby extension being in place. - Yeah, there's somebody else also mentioned, what was Kipper, I guess, he was on radio and he mentioned something about he had heard Colorado and linked to Crosby or something too, something insane. - Yeah, and I'm not saying what Kipper is reporting is and I'm just saying, that sounds crazy if that's actually true, right? And then people are like, you know, or should they be on Crosby? I'm like Crosby's not getting traded, I don't think. - If Sydney Crosby got traded because he asked out of Pittsburgh, that's the only way Sydney Crosby gets traded, because there's no world. I think where like Crosby, not only do you not get value in trade for Crosby, but also like a franchise legend like that has value to the organization. And so that's really hard to imagine. - Yeah, see it more of an off-season thing. - Um, what was the, a couple of years ago when Manta and Vrana were traded for? Like that was a big deadline deal that came out of left field, right? - Well, we already saw one today, middle stat for-- - Yeah, like those-- - Or in Byron. - Those hockey trades are the ones that are most fun and they're the best to debate rather than the, oh, did they pay too many futures for this guy? Like, not as fun, right? But actually, when you have a Seth Jones for Ryan Johansson or a Taylor Hall for Adam Larson, like those trades are a lot more fun to debate around with your buddies. And I hope we get some of those on Friday, the out of left field trades. Let's do that. - Next one comes from Hassan, Garland on power play one. Overrated or underrated? - Overrated, come on. - Oh, am I surprised to hear Seth's take on this? - I thought Seth was gonna say underrated now. - Man, I thought Seth was going underrated on this. - That was like, I love his stick positioning. (laughing) - I like his reach, especially the reach. Big fan of the reach. - Great shot. - The way he jokes up on the stick. - I love the size and reach a friend of the net. It's fantastic. - How long before Elizlyn Holm gets back on power play one? - I mean, it might be forever depending on how this, how does this thread line get? - 2032. And are we not kidding ourselves? If that trade were to actually happen, if Elizlyn Holm ends up with the Boston Bruins and he's playing next to David Pasternak, is he not like? - Oh, he's a hundred point guy. - He's back to being point of game center. - Yeah. - Playing with pasta. I mean, pasta's made Charlie Coyle a 50 point guy. So it's like, what could he do with an actually top six center? Um. Garland on power play one is not a long term solution. This speaks to the reason why the Canucks are still big game hunting here at the deadline. It's you, if you're not putting Besser, Niller, Patterson, Lynn Holm, and Hughes out for your top power play unit, the drop off to the next guy from Lynn Holm to Garland, from Lynn Holm to whomever else you might want to try next, is pretty big, right? As far as offensive talents go. And that's why you're looking at a Gensil or a Tafoli, both guys who would be the guys that could really help your power play, more so than a Connor Garland. I'll do respect to the short king, Connor Garland. - Next one comes from Kishan. You didn't even really chime in on that. - I said overrated to the game with it. - Dad's got thoughts, but. - He's been good this year, okay? - Yes. - He's been so fast. - He's been so fast. - He's been so good. He's been so good this year. - We're just like poking the bear. - Trying to get angry, sad ass. - What about Hogelander? - Garland has been fantastic, you know, and he's been so good that he has three more points to the Mikayev on the season. - I'll stop right there. - Kishan, the thought that the Canucks will return to form host deadline, overrated or underrated? - Underrated. - I think we're seeing some, honestly, I think even if you look back the past five games, there's been some bad games. - Yeah. - There have been signs, even the Pittsburgh games, really what they did in the third, but for the most part, they played well. Boston was a good game. We saw against the Kings for about 50 minutes of that game, but we're really good. So I don't think that their A game is that far away. - Yeah. - So I buy into them being able to find it, you know, after the All-Star break. - Yeah. - I mean, after the deadline. The deadline, I would imagine the Texer is sort of pondering if there's some uneasiness within the squad because trade season and that can cause a whole lot of things. But I think the Canucks probably aren't going to hit a level that we saw at any other point this season, but they could still play pretty well. They're going to play a lot better than they have in these last few weeks. But because of the strength of schedule, I think it's still going to be a bit tough for the Canucks to rack up results in the way that they did earlier this season. So yes, they'll be better, but also not the 720 point percentage team that they were before the All-Star. - But would you put it past them to be in the 650 range? Let's give 650 because that's where we're at. - Yeah, I would say they'll be a shade under. They'll be between 600 and 650. - It wouldn't shock me if they were able to do that. - Yeah. - Next one from Brad, Logan Stankovin, overrated or underrated? - I mean, can anybody say overrated? - I mean, if you think the hype is out of control. - Right, if you think he's a small player who can't be good in the playoffs, right? If that's what you're taking away. - That's what you're saying, yeah. - That's not my takeaway though. - No, it isn't. - No, sure, it's not. I'm a fan of Logan Stankovin, who doesn't like Logan Stankovin and what he's done. Dude's got five goals, three assists, and six games for those that haven't been paying attention. He is looking like the best trade deadline acquisition you could possibly have. I know we've had some questions about this. Vikingstad asked us about Lekoramaki. We've had some in the mailbag as well. Like, could the Canucks bring over Lekoramaki and he'd have a similar impact? Now, Stankovin is still just 20 years old, but he has been playing in the AHL. He's 21 now, just turned 21 like two weeks ago. But Lekoramaki is still 19 years old. He'd been playing on the bigger ice and that's a big transition to bring him over and expect that he could potentially play a role for a team going to the playoffs. I wouldn't want to put that sort of pressure on a young player like that, so I don't know if that's the case. What we're seeing out of Stankovin is a guy that was under drafted because of his size. He has spent the time to season at the AHL level. Dallas has developed them really well. They've brought him into a really good team where he's got a lot of support and it's working out brilliantly. Yeah, no, he's been fantastic for them. I'd say underrated still because of the potential that he has and to the Lekoramaki questions, you know, it's patience. Like the Great Guns N' Roses song. Chris and Nolan, cup holders, overrated or underrated? Overrated, man. Stop it, reach. No, I'm doubling down on this. Why are you doubling down on a bad take? Put your flag in the... It's like if the Canucks traded for Elias Lindholm, saw him play like this and then they were like, "Here's 9 million, man." So you go to a Canucks game. There's no cup holders at the rink. You're not going back to a Canucks game because I didn't have a cup holder? No, but I'm like, "Oh, why is there no cup holder?" Yeah, people are happy. So what? Is that changing your decision of going to the game or not? That means it's overrated. Well, what would change your position on going? By that definition, right? What would the Canucks have to put in? The team was good or bad. Well, I mean, in terms of your gripe was with the way the Canucks mentioned it as a lead item to the renovations to the building. Yes. So buy your standard. What should be a lead item that draws people in then? Everything else they mentioned. Like what? The upgrades to the 400 level that sound really fun. They're going to make more social experience for you if you're going to the game. So if you don't have that social experience, they're upgrading what they're doing outdoors at the Toyota Plaza. Like there's a lot that's going on that got totally blown over because cup holders were in the first paragraph of a $150 million renovation. So you're telling me that if they didn't have those things, you wouldn't go to a hockey game? No, that's not true. Buy your standard, but your logic is bad. There you go. You're turning this logic against me. Cup holders are under it. My point is cup holders aren't making or breaking your life. You don't want to cup holder on the dash beside you. Josh, if you loved cup holders that much, you would have bought a water bottle that fits into the cup holder of your car. Not one that needs to be strapped in with a seat belt next to you. I lost fire. I value hydration more. So I would rather have a bigger bottle. There you go. Yeah, I value hydration more than purple. Cup holders are making or breaking your life or life decisions. Overrated. All right. Next one. They're a convenience thing. They're not a make or break life thing. Justin and his fans. So this is in response to the context behind it is the target video avail that was posted yesterday by the Canucks. He was wearing a backpack, right? Some would call it a knapsack. I don't know who would do that, but he was wearing a backpack. It's a knapsack. Is it not? It's a backpack. It's more knapsack than it is backpack. You had enough bad takes for one hour, okay? Justin and his fans. Knapsacks and backpacks are legitimately different things, and he's wearing a knapsack. No, actually, he's wearing one of a backpack because it carries a lot. Wait, what's the difference? I thought we settled this in the bullpen. Yes. No, there's a difference. I mean, I think we use the word as to be the same thing. I just call it a knapsack. And all you guys call it backpack. I feel like it's either... For me, knapsack is an old person phrase. Like, my grandma would say knapsack. But I would say backpack. Anyway, the overrated, underrated. Is backpacks worn over both shoulders? Overrated or underrated? Underrated. It's better for your back to put them over both your shoulders. When you're younger, you throw it on one. It kind of looks cool or whatever. As you get older, and your body starts creaking. Isn't this like... Have you seen 21 Jump Street? Yeah, 21 Jump Street, and... Yeah, 2005, it's really popular to one shoulder. Yeah. And then they go back to high school and everyone's two shoulder. What do we do? What do we do? Honestly, it's... It looks... When I see people one-shouldering, it just... That's such a young man's take. Wow. Makes me uncomfortable. I don't like it. If you wore your backpack with two straps back in my high school days, you'd be like, "What are you doing, loser?" [Laughs] Don't play with your cup holders. Yes. Not actually. Yeah, put it back on proper. What bridge was a cruel place, though? Ruthless. Just ruthless. [Laughs] Wait, what are you doing with your backpack like that, huh? You're in San Diego. Somebody got your backpack? Say this guy grew up in the Bronx. Yeah. It's very similar. Do not sack like that. [Laughs] Uh, Vicki. Vicki is basically mini Brooklyn. [Laughs] Canadian Brooklyn. Vicki, love is blind on Netflix. Brooklyn North. Anyways, yeah, sorry. Love is blind on Netflix. It's overrated or underrated. So, I've never properly watched it. Like, I've watched it with my partner. You know, a few episodes. I saw the Brazil one. I saw, like, a bunch of episodes with her. Okay. But I do see, like, she'll send me some clips every once in a while. It'll be like, "You won't believe what happened." And it'll show, like, take a video, like, 10, 20 second video and send it to me. It'll explain what happened and show me the drama. It sounds pretty entertaining. I just don't really have the time to engage in it. But I would say it's, I'd say underrated. Probably good entertainment. Because even the clips I see I find I get a real big kick out of it. Um... It is trash television. At its finest. But it's great. I don't judge people for watching trash television. Sometimes you just need something to turn the world out. And watch something that is completely and utterly ridiculous. And that's what that is. Yeah. It's very similar to the Bachelorette. Do you get secondhand, like, embarrassment? Or all watching these things? Yeah. Like, sometimes watching the Bachelorette, like, La Violin or whatever. I'll have to, like, pause it. And be like, "Oh my goodness, did that just happen?" Honestly, like, there are times where I can't believe my partner watches it. And, um, you know, it's just her way of shutting the world out. Common down. You know, kicking the workday in the rearview mirror. And just, like... I imagine that's, like, wood leasing a cross-freeze pass. You can pause and he's like, "Oh, did that just happen?" That can't. Did this happen? How did you allow this? What's the breakdown of communication for this other two-on-one? Why is there another two-on-one? This is a... It's like there, like, me and golf is therapy sometimes. Although it doesn't feel like it when I'm really stinking to join out. But, like... You know, go to the driving range and just, like, not doing anything else. And just, like, watching your ball flight, putting something on your headphones. Nothing else matters in the world for this hour that I am here. Literally nothing else. So, I don't judge people for watching "Love Is Blind." But it is terrible television. It is so ridiculous. And I somehow ended up on, like, "Love Is Blind" algo on TikTok. Oh, no. And it is... Ridiculous. Somebody is, like, in the box, where you're not supposed to know what the other person looks like. Right? 'Cause "Love Is Blind." And she's telling the guy, "I look like Megan Fox." Or people have told me that. No, she doesn't. She really doesn't. That's as an end when they finally meet. When they finally meet, he's like... Ooh. Oh. So, Megan... Yeah, Megan Fox, yeah. I see it. Yeah. Totally. So, yesterday we were in the bullpen. And I don't know how, like, "Love Is Blind" came up in conversation. And "Bic" was in there. Oh, it was because we were talking about "Love Is Blind" this season. I think it was all in Raleigh, North Carolina, right? So, they just got people from Raleigh. So, do you think Pedersen watched that and said, "You know what? I'm out." Probably. But "Bic" thought that "Love Is Blind," just the contestants were all blind. Geez. Visually impaired, yeah. And that was the premise of the show. And we had to explain to him that it was not that. And he was like, "How did..." There's a lot of visually impaired people in Raleigh, apparently. Yeah. The thing is with all of these, like, reality shows is, like, the first season might be one thing. And then with every season afterwards, they have to push the envelope a little bit more. The diminishing returns at that point. Yes. And so, like, the ridiculousness of it just gets to a level where you're like, "I know this isn't reality TV, but I can't even, like, pretend to tell myself that this is reality TV and not completely scripted." Yeah. I mean, why not watch wrestling, you know? 100 percent. Same thing. A lot of the text on this. Rager says, "It's on par with selling Sunset underrated." This one here from Benny from the Mox. "The Canucks have been trash television for almost a decade until now." And we have a job talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. We're like the "Love Is Blind" post show or whatever they have. Yeah. We've got a couple more here. Johnny, sour cream. Overrated or underrated? Underrated. I think so. I mean, what are you having it with, though? Incredibly underrated. Well, anything you would put sour cream on. Yeah. So, I mean, how long is your, like, how much sour cream would you consume in a week? Not much. I feel like I have two-ish meals per week. Really? Just a lot of sour cream? Just like tacos, brogies. Tacos, brogies. Okay. Tacos, pierogies. But when you go to Chipotle, like, I try to get a little bit of cheese, like a guac, but I don't get sour cream. Yeah, see. I'm getting all sour cream. I'm like, "Okay, this is big." Yeah. I just got to save the calories somewhere, right? Yeah. I'm not great with dairy to begin with. Yeah. Be careful. But I do enjoy sour cream. I don't make enough dishes that require it, but they're great. Like, on the loaded fries, unbelievable. My wife, Eastern European, puts a lot of sour cream in, like, soups and stuff. Like that, right? And it just, it just ups it. It elevates it. That's what I'm saying. It's an elevator. Sour cream is an elevator. So it's an elevator. Yeah. It's underrated. Yeah. And we'll end with this one. Chef swagger. Biskoff cookies. Under it, or overrated or underrated. So I don't like the cookies, but the spread, I do kind of like the Biskoff spread. Yeah. The spread. I don't know if I tried the spread. It's kind of like a, I don't even know what it is. Like a ram cookie spread. Yeah. Are the cookies, those are the ones you get on the plane. Yeah. So you know what? Those ones are good to dip into tea or something. Yeah. I don't love those. Those are underrated as hell. They're good. I mean, they're a little sweet too, right? Yeah. I can only have them on the plane. Like, I'm not going out of my way. Is that bad manners to dunk it or dip it into tea? Is that like tea and biscuit? No, man. That's not, nothing wrong with dipping your, that's like meant to dip into your tea somewhere. I, like, if you don't dip it into your tea, like, what are you doing? You get to be, when you get to be sculpting with your espresso, it's perfect to dip. Yeah. It's a little dip. Like, you don't do an aggressive, you know, dip. You're not dunking it in. Yeah. I mean, you don't want to, like, piece the break off into your tea. That is gross. You know, you have to, you look like a fool. You have to have some level of grace when you dip it into the tea. Now, I'm, I'm a different being. I'll throw the whole, I'll throw the whole. You have the crumbs at the bottom of your tea and stuff. I'll throw the whole biscuit tea into my espresso. It looks like bass water. And then you tune it out. Yeah. And then you drink the espresso and then you've got this, like, incredibly espresso flavored biscuit at the bottom of your coffee to enjoy afterwards. How do you get rid of that? You'll spoon? Yeah, you gotta get a little spoon. A little teaspoon. Yeah. And Benny says, as a Brit, no, you can dip anything in tea. Dip anything. Greek yogurt instead of sour cream. Yeah, that works. It's a good replacement. It's fine. It's fine. Although, like, you know, it's a different way from gone. Those are very cutting season. Yes. It is very cutting season. I will say I've tried some of the plant-based yogurts. Some of them are really bad. Yeah. Some are decent. Mm. Tried one of the other day was pretty good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mm. Trying to get into the Greek yogurt game. It's good. It's tasty. You can make Greek yogurt be anything if you want it to. Easy protein. Getting real deep here. Yeah. Throw it into your-- Yeah. Throw it into your-- Throw it into your shake. You know? Yeah. It can be a great, like, you can make a lot of sauces with Greek yogurt. Let's spend the whole next segment on Greek yogurt. Ah, I don't know how much people would like that. Which canuck is most like Greek yogurt? Yeah. Stan Rachel and Satyarsha-- I feel like Pusudr comes to mind. Teddy Bluerger. I was going to say Pusudr is the-- he's versatile. Pusudr-- like, there could not be two more, like, contrasting personalities than Pusudr and J.T. Miller. Yeah. Very, very-- although when they both were classes, they could look like, you know, two exchange students. No, this text says, "Please stop saying Biscotti, like a Disney chef." Biscotti. All right. It's Dan Rachel, Satyarsha. That's overrated, underrated, on Canuck Central. The most opinionated Canuck show out there, Canuck Talk with Jamie Dodd and Thomas Drans. Be sure to subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. (whooshing)
