(crowd cheering) - This is the Canucks Central Post Game Show. - Paul Glenn protected the puck from Copitar down low, drops it back to Patterson off the bench, right circle. Into the slot, he scores. Oleus Patterson with a great deep to the middle. Out weights Cam Talbot and ties the game at one for the Canucks. - Two on one for the Kings, Copitar down the left wing center and pass it for a Turkot. His wrong fight did go with the Glum. Left-hand larceny from the Vancouver net-miner and Turkot looks to the heavens. He cannot believe it. - With instant reaction from the players and coaches. - Similler, left wing, side of the goal for Desser. Back to Miller one, timer, he scores. GT Miller drives it through Cam Talbot from the top of the left circle and the Canucks come from behind to win it in LA. Two to one in overtime and GT Miller's got his 31st goal of the season. - Have your say on the official home of the Canucks. Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet Radio Network. - Canucks come back to beat the Kings in overtime. A two-one win, a thriller in LA. And this is the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five orange on the home of your Canucks. Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet Radio Network. Satyar Shah with Biknazar. We are going to welcome in Randy Janda into the conversation in just a moment. You can get in touch with us on our dispatch plumbing, heating and air conditioning hotline 604-280-0650 or toll free. One triple eight, two, seven, five, zero, six, 50. Also hit us up on our Dunbar Lumber tax mailbox 650-650. Elias Patterson tied the game. JT Miller wins the game in overtime. Two of the Canucks star forwards come through in a big way and the Canucks pick. I'd say not one of their most impressive wins all season but one of their more impressive final 40 minutes in a very playoff like hockey game in LA tonight. - Yeah, there's a mental component to this game that able to recover from that first period, that first goal against and grow into the game. And the second period was so impressive. Kings tortured up late and a little bit in the third period but everything got stabilized by Vancouver and you need your big players to do big things. Well, it's Miller getting the game winner. It's Elias Patterson getting the game tying goal. Quinn Hughes with two assists. Brock Besser with an assist on the game winning goal. So your big players providing the pivotal moments for Vancouver to get this two one win. - Yeah, absolutely. And Randeep, you know, when we talk about how the Canucks are trying to find their game again. And the first, it was a back breaking mistake they made to allow the first goal. J.T. Miller bad pass in his own zone to Phillip Oronik who makes a mess of it. Quinn Hughes makes further a mess of it. And the next thing you know, the pucks in the back of your net unforced error completely unnecessary. You're down one, nothing. But from that point on, the Canucks took over this game. And when you talk about resiliency coming back against a team that can play playoff hockey, you know, this was a big showing here tonight. - Yeah, the LA Kings are a tough team to break down and the stats back that up. But guys, to your point, in the first period, you probably, if you're maybe a couple of players on that bench, you could probably be like, you know, it'd be like the meme. Oh, bleep, here we go again, right? But that didn't play out here where the second period guys was so strong. And, you know, the star of players and especially, I thought it started early with Elias Patterson in that neutral zone. And as the entire team was playing a certain way where, you know, in the first period, maybe very easy for the LA Kings to skate through the speed, generate a little bit of speed through the neutral zone. And the Canucks weren't able to really build on anything themselves. In the second period, it's completely different. The Canucks were doing a better job of, you know, tracking back, but they were doing a better job on the back check. But also, you know, defending skating forward. How many times have we said that? The forward's putting in work. And that's what, you know, ends up essentially creating off a lot of ozone time for the Canucks. And in the second period and on, they played a very, very A clean game. There weren't that many, you know, giveaways after that. But also on top of that, you know, just a solid game as well. Play-off style where you're not budging. There's some swagger about this team that the way they're playing skating forward. I liked it. And, you know, the two points that pick up are huge, but the way that they picked up the points was important. - Well, unbelievably, Randy, it's been three weeks since they've had back-to-back wins here. Now it's back-to-back to one wins, but it's not since the 13th and 15th of February that they managed to back stack two wins together. - Yeah, that's a shocking stat. And that's one of the things that, you know, when from the beginning of February, where essentially the all-star game, the stats kind of back up that this team has struggled, right? It's been a 500 team now above 500, seven, six, and two. But prior to that, it was up, down, up, down. And there's a lot of down over the last couple of weeks here. But, you know, building that momentum, playing a certain style of game is really important here 'cause winning is one thing. But you guys mentioned right off the top playoff style. It had an element of, hey, you're gonna have to break this team down, which is the style that LA plays. That's the style of hockey you're likely gonna get in the playoffs, especially if you're playing really good teams, the top teams. The other thing you're gonna have to also do is, there's gonna be certain nasty moments. And I thought in the second period where there was a little bit of back and forth, there was a trip, Alia's Patterson trip due to Odie in front of the net. Three or four cross checks in front of the net on Patterson that kind of go unnoticed by the referees. But there were some big hits. There were some other moments where I just not only liked the way that they played the game, moving the puck up the ice and just defending well. But there were a team, I thought in Vancouver, they gave the LA Kings a little too much respect. There was a higher risk game, but there was also a little bit, they're backing off. Today they didn't back off. They're skating forward and they're leaning into everything, some big hits, some physicality. That's the way that the Canucks need to play. And that's the way that they played a couple of months ago. So it was nice to see in a playoff style game. - Well, and also it was one of those games where we talk about the Canucks core. And the core four of Patterson, Hughes, Miller, and Demko all came up with massive moments tonight. You know, Elias Patterson scored the beautiful goal to tie the game, but Quinn Hughes, all game was aggressive. I mean, he was creating most of the chances for Vancouver, JT scores the game winner. And if Thatcher Demko doesn't rob Alex Turkop with one of the greatest saves of the season, Grand Larceny, maybe we were talking about a different outcome. The Kings only had like I think a few scoring chances, but the ones they had were great A chances. And Thatcher Demko made an incredible save, and that could have really changed the outcome for the Canucks tonight. - Yeah, boys, as per natural statric, they had three and the Canucks had 14 high danger chances, right? - Right. - But you're right, that was the big one, right? Where you've got a two on one and the Canucks didn't give up too many two on ones in tonight's game, which is, you know, kind of, it's a great thing because the LA Kings are looking for chances in transition. Go back to that five, one game that Vancouver ended up losing. Go back to their game against New Jersey in their last outing for the Kings. So to limit it to all those opportunities, but that was a huge save because it looked like that could have been the moment to say, you've done so many things well, and here's the backbreaker, you have that one mistake. But no, there's another opportunity right after we're Carson Susie, kind of pinches up and he tries to take the hit and gives Lozot and Trevor Lewis another opportunity. Luckily, Lewis ends up hitting the side of the net. So outside of that, guys, I thought, you know, Satra Demko did an amazing job on that play, but for the Canucks as well, they really limited what LA was doing all night long, especially in the second period and on. And that's what they need to do here, especially, you know, even the next game against the Vegas team that's struggling, we know what Vegas is capable on any given night, especially with Jack Eichl back in the lineup. - I think that was a Dora of not Susie because Susie hardly put a skate wrong today, so I'm careful with that one. No, there was one moment, but I'll send it to you. There's one. - Okay. But in general, like Carson Susie, coming back into the lineup today, and again, so many games off, he ends up playing 18 minutes and he's doing it on his offside too, Ranteep. And I just thought he looked so impressive this whole evening. - So composed, right? Where maybe there's certain moments in your own end or you're chasing down. There was one play specifically with Lozot in the corner where Lozot's trying to possess the puck. And Carson Susie just shrugs him off, makes the play, takes the puck away from him, separates man from puck, and then goes the other way. And that's the composed nature that I think the Vancouver Canucks have been missing a lot of, right? This is a guy that, in his one-on-one battles, he's gonna win him. Whether you're trying to enter the zone, he's gonna kill those opportunities for the opposition because of his long reach and his not only his long reach, it's not physical only, it's also, he's got a very good defensive mind. There's one play, the JT Miller line was on the ice along the left-hand side and his perfectly timed pinch essentially extends the shift in that zone in the zone time for another 30 to 40 seconds, which is key moments like that, not only that he's pinching, but he's finding the right time to do it, understanding the game and not taking a higher risk opportunity and hurting his own team. So I thought for a guy that hadn't played since January 20th, which is shocking 'cause I'd forgotten it was that long, but he looked good, man, and this is a, hopefully he can stay healthy because when he's played well, the stats back it up, 17, one and two. - Well, and if you can play that way on the right side, I mean, it was so cool, calm, collected, no issues playing the right side in his first game back, does that alleviate some of the concerns they have when they do get the full health of having to play one of the lefties on the right side? - Yeah, potentially, right? 'Cause one of the questions heading into this year was, if they need one of those left-sided guys to play on the right-hand side, would it be Ian Cole or would it be Carson Susie? And I know the sample size on Carson Susie wasn't all that large and even some of the reviews coming out of the preseason when there were opportunities, it wasn't a ringing endorsement, but in a game against the team that brought a heavy forecheck that early in this game in the first period, it did cause some problems for Vancouver, Carson Susie looked pretty composed and it could be an alternative, it could be a situation where you could be comfortable with him playing the right-hand side. I think, you know, for me personally, you need seven, eight, nine defensemen in the playoffs, so I wouldn't hurt picking up another defense in, but could he be an option? Absolutely, if he continues this while Tyler Myers is out of the lineup. - Second game for Vasily put Colson. - Yeah, I'm hard-pressed to see a guy who maybe shouldn't be creeping up even higher in the lineup 'cause he looks very impressive and the thing that really stands out is he doesn't look like he's overthinking, right? That for me was the big issue at times that we've seen him now, he's playing fast and being aggressive, yeah. - Yeah, he's playing, you know, based on instinct, which is something that you wanna see, you don't wanna see a player that takes that extra half a second at this level, the speed of the game that half a second taking it a little bit longer is gonna kill you, right? And either it takes you at opportunities or you're freezing up right before you're supposed to wrap up a man or you're hanging onto the puck too long and your decision causes a giveaway. We're not seeing that with Vasily put Colson through two games and it's a very simplified game, which is what you want from him right now. And without Dakota Joshua on this lineup, and this is not to state that Dakota Joshua doesn't do more, he scores goals, he's a playmaker, but where he's most effective and where he can really influence a game is F1, where you're in on the forecheck, you're able to create that possession for your team or at the very least, you know, disrupt, and then your line mates help you out and Vasily put Colson, if he does that consistently enough, guys, and there's more to his game, don't get me wrong. You know, the way he's reading the game is much more, I think, effective and more confident than it was last year, but if he can be established that forecheck consistently enough, you know, that's gonna be big right now because this team has been lacking that, so to me it starts with that, but I've been impressed by his game thus far, nine minutes and 17 seconds tonight, but you noticed him for all the good reasons. - Absolutely, and I thought he had a really effective game along the wall, and I thought Elias Lindholm had a really strong game as well. He left in the first period, arrived a bit later into the second, and from that point on, he was good on the forecheck, he was good defensively. I thought Elias Lindholm, and I know he's probably not gonna get enough love here tonight, and I know the production wasn't there, but you're talking about a grudge match type of game, and I thought he had a really strong game when he returned from whatever it was, ailing him in that first period. - Yeah, playoff hockey is hockey in the trenches, right? You're essentially, there's gonna be a lot of attrition of maybe you're not necessarily, you know, scoring or putting up points, it's a two on hockey game. There's only so many points to go around, but with Elias Lindholm, after he got back to the Canucks bench, after he got back on the ice, you noticed him, and there's a kind of, you know, he's an understated guy, he doesn't talk very much, his game is not allowed where he's gonna throw open ice hits, or they're gonna be bone crunching hits, but you noticed him physically as this game went on, he was in the right spots, he was engaging in battles, and you know, when a player is not producing, that's one thing. As long as they're doing the right things, and as long as they're winning the wall battles, guys, that's what this coach wants, production will come, and production, when you're a player that's put up 80 points in this league, at some point, you know, you're going to get your goals, you're gonna get your points as you develop that chemistry with your new line mates, which is another thing we have to remember, but the fact that he was visible after he returned in this game, and he was, you know, I thought, you know, him, Garland, and Pod Colson, just the ability to engage in those battles, because you might not pick up points, but are you, at the very least, keeping the puck in the offensive zone? Are you, you know, setting up for the next line? I thought that line was doing a good job of that, and it really benefited some of the other lines, like J.T. Miller's line and Elias Patterson's line, so overall, Elias Lindholm, I know there's been a lot of talk in the city about him, and tweets going out, and all of that, and speculation. If you're looking at the player and how he played today, you know, he played about 15 minutes, the last two games had one shot on goal. Here, the numbers are about the same, didn't have any shot on goal, but you could notice him for all the right reasons. He was a lot more engaging tonight. - I'll pitch this question to you, that's coming in the inbox, 650, 650, Mark and White Rock, because there's a big win. However, after two games versus the Kings, am I the only one who thinks that, bring on anyone but LA in the first round, will not be a fun seven game series to watch. I understand it's frustrating, but are you overly concerned about this Kings team? - I think they have certain elements that are, they're not easy to play, but here's the thing, right? They, the Canucks have played them during this stretch, which has not been the Canucks best stretch. When the Canucks are playing their best hockey, they were an absolute juggernaut across the league. So I think one thing we have to remember is that the Canucks that we've seen over the last seven, eight games is not the best version of Vancouver Canucks. This is a team that is trying to get back at where they were. So a play in a game like tonight where they really limited what LA could do, and the stats back that up, the underlying numbers, are showing you that the Canucks were dominant in that regard. I wouldn't be worried necessarily as long as the Canucks get that type of effort from their stars. J.T. Miller, we saw, you know, he was playing well, at least Patterson, was really good second period on. And if you get that effort from your stars and they're playing to the level that they were maybe a couple of months ago, this LA team does not worry me in that sense. They're battle tested, they're gonna, you know, they're kind of like that veteran boxer that tries to go for the liver punches, right? Like they're pretty greasy. But their speed is the part that I think has elements of, if you are sloppy with the puck, they will make you pay. So the Canucks, you know, prior to this stretch, we're pretty good with the puck. They're sticking to their staples. If you play that type of hockey, I think the Canucks will be fine. But if you start getting sloppy, you start moving away from your principles. Yeah, I think any team, a lot of teams in this league will pick you apart. LA's just got a really good transition game that will take advantage, especially. - Yeah, at the same time, when they push a bit more, they can give you something going back the other way. So, you know, it's one of those things where if you get them going a little bit and they can't rely on goaltening, that could fall apart really quickly. But nonetheless, a very tight game tonight, Canucks coming ahead to one. And I did want to bring up Neil's Hoglander for a moment. I thought in the third, there were a lot of moments where there was one sequence in particular, because Canucks got caught on pinches a couple of times, but I thought the Canucks did a good job in back checking. Hoglander took a chance away doing that. He was really good at diving at pucks as well and doing everything he can from a detail standpoint for the most part tonight. I was impressed with how he played. And if those young guys can play that way late in a tight game like that, I think that goes well for the postseason. - Yeah, we're starting to see a more complete game from Neil's Hoglander, right? Before it was about the goals and his ability to find the right spot and play with skill players. And it was also about the forecheck. But you mentioned that play. There's another play at the Blue Line where he's digging for the puck and just relieving pressure where you're essentially saying, okay, that's just a strong play. You're winning your battle wherever you are on the ice. Another play where I think it was Pedersen entering the zone and just quick passing. And one of the things we forget about Hoglander going back to his draft year is, yeah, he's been in an energy role this year. And that's where Rick Talkett wants him. But so much skill, right? His hands, he's got great hands. And the ability to, you know, battle is one thing, be aggressive on the forecheck another, back check as you mentioned. But I just love the creativity in his game too. So it's all coming together here. And in terms of, you know, ice time, I'm sure that's gonna be a conversation. He got more trust in that regard, 16 minutes and 22 seconds today. And guys, we've been talking about, hey, when is he gonna surpass 13 minutes? Well, today, the coach trusted him, gave him some extra ice time. And I thought he had a very strong game. To me, I thought the Anaheim game was his best of the season, I still think that. But this was, you know, every game, if he's having games when you're walking away and saying, wait a second, he feels like he's adding layers to his game. Or there's a real understanding there on the defensive side of things that tells you where his game's at now. - Yeah, absolutely. And growing in confidence, played 16 minutes and 20 seconds, 15 of those coming at even strength. Or five on five tonight, a lot of responsibility for the Nils Hoagner tonight. Randy, great stuff calling the game alongside Brendan Batcha. We'll look forward to chatting with you on Thursday when the Canucks wrap up. There's three game road trip ahead of the trade deadline in Vegas against the Golden Knights. - All right, guys, have fun until midnight. - Yeah, we'll have a lot of fun. Thanks, Randy. But keep your thoughts coming in to a Dunbar Lumber text inbox, 650-650. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650. You're toll free, 1-888-275-0650. Before we go to the phone boards, Bick, the Canucks now up to 40 wins on the campaign, 87 points, and this three game road trip, now you won two games already. I wouldn't go as far as saying whatever happens against Vegas is gravy 'cause the Canucks are coming off a stretch where they had still lost six with their last nine games. Now they've won three of the nine, before it was six out of seven. So they're kind of inching back towards it a little bit. But you have a chance here to really have a monumental road trip if you win both these games against FLLA and against Vegas. Vegas has had some issues lately. Eichol is back. They just traded for Anthony Manta. Perhaps a good time to face them. But, you know, for all this talker around, Canucks can't beat the good teams and they lump LA into that group, you come away and beat Vegas as well. I think that changes the mood around here quite dramatically. - Well, LA's been surging recently here, right? And so they've pushed themselves up. I feel like coming into tonight, they were 10th in points percentage. So, you know, their season, they had kind of clawed back. Yeah, they're 11th right now after tonight. So they're in and around that mix. If you want to talk about playing the next best 10 teams, that's who's in that category. And so they get this win today, which is massive. But this stretch here, it's a really pivotal stretch. They play LA twice in the last three games. Vegas Winnipeg, Colorado, right? So there's a nice little sample there to look at and say, "All right, who are we?" And now you play a bad game against LA where they made a lot of their own mistakes. They corrected them here, get a win. These next three games are really gonna calm some nerves for a lot of people to say, "Hey, can they do this against big teams and whatnot?" And there's some thoughts like that coming in. See, boys, I was never worried. We beat a great team on the road. Still missing the net a lot though. That is from Broadway Bobby, by the way, Queen Hughes amongst those who missed the net a lot today. Queen actually had nine shot attempts, only two of them on goal, which I know was a frustrating for you. - Very frustrating. - But they ended up taking 34 shot attempts missing the net. 31 end up on goal. - Yeah, a lot of blocks, I'm missing that. JT had a great chance in the first period off the face off, wired it past the net as well. So probably can hone in a little bit more with the shots, but give LA credit too for boxing out well and also blocking a lot of shots. This text says, "Great win, no PDO BS. "Pure bullish for checking, great zone entries "and really nice passing." That's a moments where obviously, it wasn't great in the first, then we talked about some of the mistakes that they made, but they're far more connected with their play tonight, especially compared to the last time they played the Kings. It seemed like Queen Hughes couldn't handle a puck even without pressure last time in Vancouver and when these two teams met. And tonight, I mean, he dummied Anjay Koputar on the first, absolutely puts him on his butt, just completely undresses him. And he had one of those nights where guys were not going to get in his way. He coughed up a couple of pucks here and there, but overall, I thought Queen Hughes was a really fantastic night of control in the game from the back end. - Certainly, certainly. And again, the goal against Clunky from-- - But it's Miller, Heronic, and Hughes. - Of multiple players on that goal. But nevertheless, Queen Hughes brought it back last game on Sunday and continued a strong game today. The passing was crisp and not that LA was always so forceful. The ice and Quinn was willing to just kind of wait it out and let everyone regroup perfectly. But it's stuff like that. Do you have the poise to just wait? - Yeah. - And Queen Hughes did and created so much today, just thrusting down that flank and constantly being a danger. And he probably had to assist, but Brock had a good chance off of a Quinn. He was set up and yeah, he was active again. - Yeah, he was forced in the issue doing everything he possibly could. - And then, Elias Patterson scoring that goal came off a great shift, right? I mean, it was two shifts. It was the previous line who was out there, it was Lindholm with Putcole's in and Garland. They were generating pressure, holding Pucks in. Garland dives for one, Putcole's in wins a couple of Pucks. And then they be lying it off to change. Holanda comes in, wins the puck, keeps the puck going. And then Elias Patterson jumps on. And what a great moment of individual skill. It seemed like, and at that point, somebody needed to do something special to score. Patterson takes advantage of a lot of free space, but, you know, we mentioned how Quinn Hughes, Dummy, Anji Kopatar on the four check. Well, Elias Patterson completely undressed, Drew Dowdy as well, cutting to the inside and scoring that goal to make it one-on-one. And they needed every bit of brilliance from those two guys to be able to be in this game and win this hockey game tonight. And it was great showing from those players. All right, we are gonna go to the foam boards in one moment, Vic, but what are the people saying on our dumb bar lumber text in the box? - 650, 650, keep the text coming in. This one, just from Langley. Dominance in the face-off circle. Huge part of the win tonight. Lindholm Miller gonna be huge for us in the playoffs. So just to detail what happened in the draw tonight, connects with 64% of the draws. Miller and 14 and 7, so 67%. Lindholm goes six and four for 60%. But here's the big one. Elias Patterson, 11 and five for 69%. So it's-- - It's almost at 50% now for the season. - That one might clip him up above 50%. But it's been a strong season. He's up five points from last season to this season. So it's an improvement in his game. - So he was 11 and five. - Yeah. - So that means he was plus six, right? - Correct. - So he would be at 49.9% then. - There you go. - It's close. - He's almost at 50%. - That's a huge jump. Coming into the season, he was below 44%, like 43-some. - That was breaking his career average. That means he's going up six points from his career at the average. And now break even in the face-off circle. Big step by Elias Patterson in that regard and a massive goal from him. And a lot of texts about Patterson. Positive ones. We'll get to those coming up in a little bit. But let's take a couple phone calls. Let's go through the dispatch plumbing, heating and air conditioning hotline. And we'll start things off in North Van where we have Stu on the line. Stu, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? - Hey, gentlemen, always nice to talk to you after a game like this. And yeah, thanks for taking the call. - Yeah, man. I mean, I think we can preface tonight's performance with, you know, after the little stint of some poor performances, you know, the end of month of February, the Canucks knew that they had lost a bit of respect among the rest of the teams in the league. And so I think tonight was a good statement game. And just all around, I mean, Demco, that was a game where you wouldn't look back at and say, he showed up to play. Because aside from that amazing safety made with the glove on the two-on-one, which was, that's highlight reel. That's like a season save for sure. Just everyone showed up, you know? It's great to see a game where, you know, the big boys took it upon themselves to be on the offensive side defensively. I think the defense did exactly what they had to do. Nothing too flashy. They just did their job and it worked out. And I mean, I think just the landscape of the Pacific Division has changed so drastically post-holidays. I mean, you look at the standings now. Vegas is in wildcard threat territory. And you've got, you know, Nashville, the flames, Seattle kind of creeping up. Could we possibly see the Golden Knights drop all the way out and a team like the Kraken or the flames get into the mix? Because right now it's looking like it's gonna be Edmonton and LA beating each other up in the first round, which is good for the rest of the West because, you know, the Canucks need that first place overall in the West boys. We know that because with Colorado, with the Jets, like it's gonna be a bloodbath, honestly, like, I'm thinking that whoever wins the Cup this year is coming out of the West. So all those points we banked in the first 50-ish games are coming to fruition now. 'Cause we knew we weren't gonna be on pace for 160 points or whatnot, but it's good to see that we've kind of settled down and going forward, getting Joshua back, Meyer. I'm curious, trade deadline, what do you guys think? And also, you know, are we going all in? We got the black sheep coming in, we're doing all that. So like, what's happening? Let's make it happen, boys. - Hey, thanks for the phone call. That is Stu and North Van. Quickly on the trade stuff. I mean, it's clear the Canucks are in on Jake Genssel. However, the Canucks are not in a position, especially after making the Elias Lindholm trade of just giving away assets for any rental. There is a price they're willing to pay, but right now the ask is very high from Pittsburgh. Obviously nobody's meeting that price yet. Part of the reason for Vancouver is they want to be able to extend a player if they add him. Is that something in the cards or not? So they're interested in Genssel, yes. Complicated to pull off, and there's a lot of time left here. Somebody sent this text in and said, "Is it just me?" Hey, guys, tell me if I'm wrong, but instead of a sniper like Genssel, does Miller or PD not need a mucky player like a Burroughs, a Jason Zucker type? That might be more realistic. The Canucks, you know, reportedly today, and we mentioned this yesterday as well, could be looking at a Jason Zucker type. They have been looking at it. Is that something they can pull off at least at a cheaper price than going out and getting Jake Genssel? I think one thing is clear. They'll maybe be making some sort of an addition and they're in on Genssel, but ultimately is a price going to be so high that they do settle on more of a Zucker type by Friday. Zucker's not cheap though. No, he's making five and a half. Financially, yeah. Yeah, now you can get him out of retained. The thing is you're not trading a first round pick for. Sure. And you're probably not trading a second for him either. Maybe they're asking for a second or something, but given what Anthony Manta went for, who scored 20 goals, Zucker has nine, a second and a fourth, plus retention, I would say Zucker should come in below that. Certainly, he also just feels like a fourth on the short list type guy. They missed out on your real targets and now where do you land? I still very much want to see a sniper, someone that works really well away from the puck. You saw what the connection looked like with Patterson and Tifoli and there's another name you can throw in, although seems like the devil's intent is not to do that, despite losing again. I don't know what their plan is here. Unless they really think they can catch Philly. They're eight points back right now with a game in hand, but if they lose again later this week, and I think they have a tough game as well against the Blues, I think, if they lose that one, then what's the reality for them? So I still prefer that type of player than a mucky type player. Yeah, and we'll see. We'll get to more of your questions and comments on the trade deadline as well a bit later, but we'll continue breaking this game down. We'll take more of your tax messages, more of your phone calls as well. Hold on to your phone lines. We'll get to you coming up on the other side, plus the Canucks head coach as we continue on a Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five orange of Vancouver legend. They've got sports too. Canucks win two on an overtime against the Kings. More coming up next on the home here Canucks, Sportsnet 650. Catch up on what happened in Vancouver Sports with Halford and Bruff in the morning. Be sure to subscribe and download the show on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is where you talk Canucks. You're listening to the Canucks Central Post game show on the official home of the Canucks. Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet Radio Network. Elias Patterson of the hash marks. He'll chip it deep for Hoaglander, played it behind the net. Souter is beaten to the puck by Matt Roy. He clears it around to the far side for Quinton Bifield, center for Gavricov gets it to center. Two on one for the Kings. Copitar down the left wing center and pass it. Frick Turkov is wrong by Demko with the glum. Left hand larceny from the Vancouver netminder and Turkov looks to the heavens. He cannot believe it. What a save from Thatcher Demko to keep this game tied at one. A wide open net for Turkov. He thought he had this goal as Copitar came in. Gives him a great cross-sized feed here and Thatcher Demko going right to left glove hand and Turkov has no idea how the California native Thatcher Demko made that save. Some athleticism from the Vancouver Canucks. Gold tender to make that save on a rare two on one in this game for the LA Kings. Thatcher Demko, my goodness. What a save on Alex Turkov. A candidate for save of the year helping the Canucks win two won in overtime over the LA Kings and this is the Canucks Central Post Game Show presented by the number five orange. It's Satyar Shah with Biknazar. Keep your thoughts coming into our Dunbar Lumber Texan box, 656.50. We are gonna get to the phone line as well as 604.280. 0.650 coming up in a few moments. Plus we are soon going to get to the thoughts of the Canucks head coach. But that save clearly is tonight's play of the game, Bik. What a tremendous effort by Thatcher Demko coming across with the glove and just snaring that puck out of the air and taking a sure goal away from Alex Turkov. And you know, there have been some nights over this past little stretch here. We mentioned the Canucks have lost six of their last nine but they've won now, you know, two games in a row here. And in many of those losses, we've had people texting in. Thatcher, why isn't Thatcher Demko making a spectacular save to save the Canucks? And we're like, well, you know, I mean, he's making some saves, but look at the chances they're giving up. That was a spectacular save that ensured the Canucks remained tied in that game and ended up winning it in overtime. And they don't win this game maybe if Demko doesn't make that safe. So for all those begging for a big moment for Thatcher Demko in a tight game against a big opponent, they got that and then some tonight. - Yeah, especially early in that third period, right? - Yeah. - Well, they lock up shop and the way they play, the LA Kings, they feel very comfortable absorbing a lot of pressure. And without a frustrated that you with 18 minutes to go, how do you recover from that? And there's Thatcher Demko preserving the opportunity for two points, giving yourself a chance and it continues and you wait and you wait and you wait for your chance and eventually it comes in overtime. But he was hugely impactful on getting two points tonight and most notable because of that save. That is the play of the game. - Yeah, it is your play of the game. Thatcher Demko, tremendous save to Rob Alex Turcaud. And we mentioned Elias Patterson in his goal, J.T. Miller getting the overtime winner and obviously Quinn Hughes doing his thing here tonight. - A lot of commentary on the OT winner from people texting in 650, 650 about the delayed penalty on Fiala. - Yes, it's a penalty, right? You can see him put his arm on his shoulder. But a lot of the commentary coming in on the inboxes, Pedersen tugged the back of the jersey, kind of at the base of the back on Fiala, up the ice with the neutral zone. So you get away with one, you get one. - Again, all this stuff kind of falls out into the wash. - So how many games have fans been complaining that Canucks are not getting the benefit of calls? How many have? - It's just done, it's happening in the air. - No, no, a lot of games that chefs have not gotten the benefit. This game, they get one here tonight. You know, some people are playing. - Get away with one and get one. - Maybe get away with one a little bit, right? - I thought the officials were not going to call anything after, 'cause the Canucks, I mean, they put the whistles away. There were just a few instances, they could have called something in the third and even in the second half of the second period, but they never called it. So I thought they were just gonna put their whistles away. So I was surprised, they called it to be honest. I was surprised, but, you know, the Canucks take advantage on the power play, what? I guess, the late penalty, 'cause the Canucks ended up scoring. All right, we'll get to more of your text messages in just a moment. Let's go to the foam board. 604-280-0650, we're total free, one triple eight, 275-0650 on the dispatch, plumbing, heating and air conditioning hotline. And let's go to Vancouver, where we have Matt on the line. Matt, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? - Hey guys, I'm calling you with more than 1% on my phone this time, so I love it. And last time I called, it was the night that I was saying we had to refine Dakota Joshua, and it turned out little it. I know he was recuperating from a, you know, damaged hand that night. And that was definitely a moment in the season that we've seen how the team looks a lot different with him in the lineup. And I thought we really could have used him on Thursday when we lost to LA at home. Because in addition to not being able to make any passes and connect any plays to the neutral zone, you know, that we was leading to a lot of chippy play and we lost all the, or we, the Canucks lost all the board battles and really could have used that strong guy. So Dakota, it was really nice to see that Canucks beat LA have that response game without him in the lineup. So they know that they don't just need the one big bad in order to do that. And I, it really watching this game in LA and the whole energy was different. Like when LA is on the road and they're in our barn and we kind of, the Canucks sort of give them the game, they look like the villain and they look like the big bad, but when they are holding onto this one nothing lead in their own rink and sitting back, sitting back like frankly, and I know they have a couple of guitar and dowdy and the pedigree on their team, but it was loser energy when you look at it and it just a completely different vibe. So as a fan, this is just as a fan. I am not worried about that LA team. I'm not discounting them and I want to disrespect them, but I just don't have that same worry because I feel in a playoff series, the Canucks are actually a team that can go push for the win. They have that top gear, they have those players and go out there and try to win. And I feel like LA just really was just trying not to lose. And yes, they did have that flurry of excellent chances to start the third and the bounce could have gone the other way. But I just don't have the same feeling. And I just want to say another thing about a player coming out of the lineup and how the team looks different is Tyler Myers. I know he's been a whipping boy for his discipline, you know, lack of discipline over the years, but really you see him and we don't have him and Zadora and out there taking these penalties. And it's a much better look at the team because the Canucks are a great five on five team. And when we have these long stretches of continuous five on five play, you can just see the ice start to tilt even when we don't have the third line put together. There's still the makeup of the team just looks good. And in the playoffs, I don't want a bunch of penalties on going in either direction. I just want good five on five play. And so Myers is going to be back in time to the playoffs, presumably it's going to be similar to have to deal with, but that's a big thing I want to look at with the makeup of the team. Just five on five play, we're just better than most teams and we're going to win. Canucks I should say are going to win. If they can keep five on five more than special teams because the power play kind of things. So thanks a lot guys. - Hey, great stuff, Matt. Appreciate the phone call, good thoughts. I came in strong, had more than 1% and had a good effort. - It's amazing what you can do when you come prepared. - Fantastic stuff. - Phone's charged and he's charged up. - I like it. I like it now. He mentions the two that he's not terrified of playing the LA Kings. Now, not everybody feels the same way. Mark, not at the office anymore, text in it says, "Interesting that earlier you guys said "the Kings don't really worry you in a playoff series, "considering the Canucks have not led them once." In 62 minutes so far this season. Yeah, I mean it's been two games. They haven't led them yet. - 162. - Yeah. - Oh, sorry, 122, 22, 23, whatever. - Yeah. - However many it is, but the Canucks have not led except for winning. They have won one, lost one. But the Kings have picked up three out of four points. So depends on how you want to look at it, right? - I choose to look at the performances. - Yes. How about this text? It says, "So I met J.T. Miller and an EP randomly "at the elevators at our hotel in Anaheim "early Sunday morning." - There you go. - J.T. made a joke saying he was just EP's bodyguard after the huge contract LOL, awesome guys. Great to see EP back with some heat and passion in his game. Maybe the early morning copies with Miller has been rubbing off on him. Great game. So, Patterson and Miller together an elevator? I thought, what? - No competition. - No competition. - No competition. - I'm moving on. - Does that crush too many narratives? Does it? - Oh. - I mean, listen, let me ask you something. If you don't want to hang out with somebody, do you not do your best to avoid them when it comes to an elevator? - I'm just saying. I'm not saying I'm just saying. - All right, 6.50, 6.50. This one, TJ from Sask, great team effort. Lots of guys going tonight. Suzy was awesome considering his first game back and pressed with him on both sides of the ice, both ends of the ice. PD, Lafferty had strong games. He even thought McKayev looked better tonight. TJ might be alone on that one, but nevertheless? - Hey, we'll talk about McKayev coming up in a bit. But you know what we should do? We should get to the thoughts of the Canucks head. Let's get here. Here's our head Canucks head coach, Rick Talkett, after a 2-1 overtime win in LA. - Yeah, a couple of 2-1 hockey games, you know. That was kind of a playoff style. I just like the resolve and I think our second period really was one of our best second periods of the month. And I think, you know, obviously managing the third and the meals had come out of the big goal. - Was that one where you went into the room in between to give them a little juice heading into the second? - Yeah, no, I thought the first was fine. I thought we were getting a little, you know, sometimes our afternoon was diving in a little bit, so that's what I talked about. But I wanted them to stick with it. And like I said, the second was really good. Couple odd man rushes in the third. You know, we got to be careful. It's just, sometimes we press a little bit, but I thought we learned quicker than we usually did, which was nice. - So were you able to break them down this time, right in terms of getting some of the chances in the second period? - Well, I think when we did ship it in, or, you know, there's not a lot of room, we got to the pucks quicker. You know, I think that's a will. I don't think it's a system thing. I think we just have more will than we had the last time we played them of getting those loose pucks. I thought we came up with more battles, more territory, obviously. Talbot played good, and they're good at boxing out, so there's a lot of shots at the net. - You also think you did a better job of maybe generating some speed underneath so that you were coming at one three one with some more pace? - Yeah, we worked on that last couple of days, or the Australian practice, had a strategy for it, and that's why I thought we got to pucks looser pucks, but it was also a will, you know. To me, it's not the puck here. It's the guy without the puck, the second guy. I think he's got to get the puck quicker, and I thought he was tonight, so that helped us for territory. - How big would step coach save early? - Yeah, it was unreal save. I mean, that's a 10 baller. I mean, that's a highlight one that'll be on tonight, and probably all month, that's a big time save horse. At the crucial time. - How much momentum does it give a team when the goalie can get you something like that? - Well, it's huge, it's a two-goal swing, right? If they score, you know what I mean? They don't score, and then it gives us a little, you know, it gives us life. You know, it kind of weights your bench up to it, because we gave a couple of odd man rushes, and you just can't give it to one another, and damage just makes that great save. So, yeah, he gave us a chance, 100%. - When you're trying to get into a rhythm here, now you win two back-to-back games that were gritty to one. What does that do for your confidence? - Well, it's okay to play those type of games. Like, it's good, you know, I think it's good that we win those two one hockey games, and play, you know, you try to play mistake free. It's impossible, but you try to limit the, you know, I think in a second, I don't think they got a chance, or any high danger chance. So, I think it actually, what the coaches are saying, and what the leaders are every saying, if you preach it, and guys should believe it, because it works, if you do it. So, hopefully you get on a little bit of a roll with that mentality. - What you think of Saulty in his first game back seemed like he was really sharp. - Really good. Common influence back there on the defense, you know, just when he's on the bench, when he's on the ice, he calms things down. When things get hectic, he makes that little subtle play to get the puck, or to make a play to somebody. You can tell he's been missing, we've been missing that from him, and to get him back, you know, he's a leader too. So, it's a big, it's a big, I don't know, some he says, like, you know, trade for a defense. - Have some secrets. - He also seems really effective on zone entry denials, and obviously he's got the reach, but is there anything outside of the reach that stands out about how he defends for life? - Well, hockey, or hockey IQ, you know, knowing when to snap into somebody and hold the blip. You know, there's nothing, you know, nothing better for me is when we can hold the blue line and not give it up, and he's one of those guys. If he, we have numbers, he's gonna snap in and keep that puck from getting inside the blue, which is, it's big. I mean, I think that's where he's really good at for our team. - That hurts, and he gets it. He gets it, he gets it, also, kind of that, get that first one after the extension. - Yeah, no, it was actually a really big time goal. You know, stick hand to the middle and throw it in, and then, you know, I thought as the game went on, he played really well. - That is Canucks head coach Rick Tockett pleased after a 2-1 overtime win over the LA Kings, and one player in particular, he was giving a lot of praise to. At the end, there was Carson Susie, big number seven, who made his return to the lineup tonight. A successful return helping the team win in overtime, and mentions how they've been really missing his calming influence. He calms things down, makes settles, plays, when they're under duress. They've been really missing him, and he's also a leader, so the coach was very, very happy to see number seven back in the lineup tonight. - Yeah, just a police game from Carson Susie, and he's done it coming back from injury before, and you think, all right, I'll take a couple of games to get going. It was smooth when he first came back early in the year, and then today, on his offhand, right side, just no problem. He was, he was awesome. Just, you know, talk and mention, it's just subtle plays, it's a little chip, and he had one earlier on the second period where it was just a little touch pass, a little flip in behind his own net, but he put it to space for Hoaglander to pick up, and just stuff like that was evident all throughout the evening. He had a pass to Hoaglander as well, on the second unit power play, where he tried to get a redirect from Hoaglander, and just a solid player. - Yeah, very solid, and just makes a smart place too, and he's a guy that you want to seek in on a bit of a role here, and get a few games in a row, and see if he can continue it, and because he can play a bigger role than he's played. He just hasn't had enough games under his belt so far. Richard Amapal Ridge says, "We miss Susie so much." Feels like we just traded for a top four D-man. Steve Bart says, "Wanna give nothing but love "for the big number seven." Thought he played a great game, missed him back there, so pretty resounding here on the text inbox. Fans missing, and being happy to see Carson Susie back in line up here tonight. - Yeah, 650, 650. He is the overwhelming fan favorite after tonight as well. This one, Dylan and Vancouver. Nice to get the win, but why do our defense pinch so much recklessly in the offensive zone sometimes? Leads are too many odd men rushes the other way. Something else that Rick Talk get referenced a lot, and look, they got away with it tonight. Obviously, Demko makes the big save on Turkop, but there was multiple moments where, yeah, guys, we're a little bit like a touch slow. Happen to Hughes, happen to Sodorov, happen on the right side as well, where guys were just a touch low, and it did open up opportunities. Hoaglander, Backcheck, nullified one, but there were multiple odd man rush opportunities for LA. They weren't exactly the fastest team to try to take advantage of them, but the big ones they got, that's where Demko was there to strip the door. - Yeah, he was, and he made absolutely a massive save there on Alex Turkop, which was your player of the game, which we mentioned a bit earlier there in the show. And I did also, and we had some people texting in here, both about Putkolzen and Niels Hoaglander, but I thought a game like this, where tight checking game stakes are high, not a lot of space out there. There was maybe one instance, and I'm really nitpicking here, where I thought, okay, Hoaglander could have been a bit more aggressive and a loose puck, but he still got there and shifted into the offensive zone, and it's not like you want the guy to get a head taken off, but if you're nitpicking, there's maybe one kind of play, but outside of that, I thought Niels Hoaglander, especially in the third, was fantastic, especially on the back check. And the text you read earlier about the D being really aggressive in the pinching, that can be okay as long as the forwards are rotating, and you're pinching when a forward's available to rotate. And I think sometimes we talk about the rotation not happening, if you're a defensive pinching, you have to be aware of, it's the guy in place to make the rotation, 'cause if he's not, is that a chance we're taking, right? But a couple of times, he recognized and he belined it, to be able to make a play, break a pass up and back check properly. And when it comes to his forward checking ability, winning along the boards, he played over 16 minutes tonight. - Well, he's doing 22. - Did not look at a place. - And then two shifts in the final five. - Yeah. - So there's your faith from the coach. Late in a tie game against a big team, you want to get these two points, who are you throwing out there in the final five minutes? Do you have some trust there? Niels Hoaglander was one of the guys to get a shift. Two shifts. - Yeah, and they did a really good job of closing that game out, really impressed. And that gives you some confidence here. And also, when it comes to the trade deadline, because teams are obviously asking for your young players here, not to say that this game prevents you from making any trade or something, but if you're management watching this, do you look at it and say, maybe we should be more, we should be happy that we're resolved to keep Niels Hoaglander? Like is it giving you more confidence and keeping him for the playoff run? I would say it does. - Yeah, it certainly does give you more confidence, but it's also relative to what you can get to. - It's always a question. But for those asking, I don't think the Canucks are trading a guy like him. First somebody was a rental. And right now, the way he's playing, is that even a guy who want to move off the roster and that's a very, very fair question. What else are people saying in the text box? - So I just quickly illuminate this. I'm just trying to look at the shift chart here. So Lafferty, PDG, Blueger, McCabe and put Colson, essentially either didn't play or got one shift in the final little stretch there. And there's Hoaglander with a couple, obviously. So on a night like tonight, he's your seventh forward, essentially. So that's strong considering some nights, he's having around 11, 12 minutes. That's really strong for Niels Hoaglander, who again ends up playing 16-22, Pew Souter at 16-39, and then we'll go through some of the low numbers here. This is what Colson 9-17, Ilya McKay of 13-19, PDG 9-54, and Sam Lafferty 11-15. So just kind of shows the discrepancy there for Niels Hoaglander, his pedigree above some of those guys tonight. All right, 6-50, 6-50. Michelle, first in the West of 40 wins, what a game. Deserve to win with the awesome possession and very smart plays. Rachel, loving to see Susie back-rate team win. He's so solid and reliable for us, quiet, but so important, and also Steve in the Ridge Canucks starting to dictate play again. So glad to see that. - Yeah, and I think the way they were able to dictate play, especially after they went down one nothing, was something that was impressive. And then we talked about this at the end of the first intermission. Outside of that play, and it was a really bad play to turn over, J.T. Miller goes to pass it back to Phillip Huronik. Horrible pass, Huronik makes a meal of it as well behind the net, and then Quinn Hughes throws a bad pass for Horonik, who also can't handle it. And the next thing you know, the pucks in the back of your net. Outside of that moment, I thought in the first period, they were fine. There was a lot, it was a very low event first period. There was, they had two good chances Anaheim did. I mean, sorry, LA did the chance they scored the goal on, and the other one was L.J. Copartart cutting through when the Pedersen line was out there, driving the net and taking this and getting the, drawing the slashing call on Noah Juleson, doesn't score, Demko makes a save and the Canucks kill off the penalty. Those are the two chances I thought LA really had. Territorially, I thought it was pretty even in the first, but the reaction, you saw it on social media, we saw it in our text and inbox, very negative, very, you know, here we go again. Canucks can't beat the Kings, they can't beat these good teams, or they can't win tight checking hockey games, but I thought that was more, you know, emotion and visceral reaction to being down one nothing, 'cause I thought, okay, it was fine. But then from that point on, they really took the game over, and I think that should give you confidence in a tight game like this, that they can dictate against these types of heavy, you know, low event, you know, gritty teams like the LA Kings. - Yeah, we'll play this from JT eventually, but you talked to Kate Patterson after the game on SportsNet, and mentioned that they made some adjustments there in the second period, and we talked about the play, the entire sequence leading up to the Patterson goal of how good of a shift Lindholm-Garlan would put Colesemore. - Yeah. - And when you hear this back from JT, should we just play this now? - Yeah, do you have it right? - Well, once we know, has that quite ready yet, when it's ready, we'll go to it, yeah. There was multiple plays that even when LA got a clear, Quinn Hughes, quick up the ice, and back into the zone, and put Colesem and Garlan Lindholm, just stayed with it, and were able to generate a lot of down low zone time below the hash marks, and outcomes, whole ender outcomes, Patterson, and they end up getting the goal, but that switch there, that they weren't being slow with their process to get the puck up, really pivotal in that sequence there. - Yeah, it was really pivotal, and as far as JT Miller is concerned, here is JT Miller Post Game. - The Canucks with a 2-1 win in overtime, over the Kings, and JT, the word patience comes to mind with the way you act. Can you walk us through that? - Yeah, I mean, we have a handful of plays against the 4-1-3. We scored an overtime a couple of weeks ago on one of them, and, you know, on the first time I rolled, you know, it's kind of just to see which way they're positioned, and they were out pretty far, so, you know, we have another option, and we kind of yelled the other option, and, you know, not lucky, but, you know, nice to see it work out. - I wonder about the second period. You guys came out with some swagger of offensive zone pressure, and really tilted the ice there, and eventually tied it up. What adjustments did you make? What was the difference there? - Well, I think inevitably is, like, when they can't get in their structure, we have a little advantage, and that they're so, you know, well-structured through the neutral zone, and how they break the puck out, you know, in the second period is a period where we can take advantage of teams like that, and not let them get off, and, you know, we'd try not to set up, and, you know, they got a longer change, so we want to quick up as much as we can, and we played very fast, and held onto pucks, and had a lot of good looks, so we took advantage of that. - We ask you about them often, but that's your demco. I think about that save on Turkot, in particular. Do you sometimes marvel when you sit on the bench at some of the saves you make, and also think about how nice it is that you only have to go against them in practice? - Yeah, no kidding. Honestly, I don't remember the last time I scored in the guy. I just don't even really try against him anymore. He's unbelievable, and it saves like that. To keep us in such an important game for our group, you know, I thought, you know, win or loss in overtime, we played, you know, a good road hockey game today, and, you know, a playoff style game. A game we can expect down the road, but, you know, he is such a big part of our team, and when we see that, you know, it's almost like a get out of jail free type of situation on a breakdown. So, you know, he's been on real for us for, you know, ever since I've been here for the last five years. - You mentioned that playoff style game, another 2-1 win. What does it mean to get some confidence here? Get those wins that aren't pretty, but more so gritty. - I mean, I feel like we scored at a very high clip at the beginning of the year, and now it's a little harder to come by. Teams are tightening it up a little defensively. You know, goals are a grittier and, you know, harder to get to as you alluded to, and I just think our group's doing a good job of trying to navigate, being patient, and, you know, you know, that we were spoiled at the beginning of the year, scoring four or five, six goals a game, but, you know, it's hard to score, and we're gonna do it the hard way. So, you know, I think it's a great learning experience for our group. - Thanks, JT, congrats. - Thanks, Gabe. - That is JT Miller, post-game with Kate Pederson. - Yeah, so he details that second period really well there, and it obviously showed up with their overall territorial dominance in that period. I think all shots that period, they end up taking 27, 16 total attempts, but even the high dangers total were 8-1 in favor of Vancouver that period. Rick Talkett called it that second period, one of the best periods of the month. - Yeah, they played really well in that period, and it wasn't like it was a lapse freak. Hockey is not a mistake for you. Mistakes are going to happen. The egregious ones are bad. I'd even say some of the two-on-one chances in the third came from over-aggressiveness. I can live with that a little bit, things you can hone in on. - And like somewhat indecision, right? - Yeah. - It happens. - They're going to close, right? Like the DM and I are going to pants to try to push everyone back. It's just, if you're quick on it, you can get there. - Exactly, and the ones that you can't accept was the first period one. Completely lazy, right? And we just outlined what happened on that. But outside of that, like, you know, it's one of those games where, you know, they played the type of game you need to play in games, against teams like the LA Kings to win, and they showed they could, and, you know, not everybody's convinced, but some are seeing the benefits or the positives, and this one here says, they proved me wrong tonight. They can beat a decent team. Let's get some consistency going now. I still feel sorry for Mikayev, even more so his line mates. They all know he currently can't create any offense at all. Would it be so bad to drop him to the third or fourth line? He's at least has wheels or gets in on the fourth check as well. And he can back check. Maybe he needs to play on the third or fourth line. They've moved them all over the lineup, you know, obviously, and it hasn't been fantastic, right? But I thought tonight, like, that line was, I thought he was in the middle of all the good things the Miller, Besser, Mikayev line did. And Snakebiddens the word, man. Like, there are so many, it looked like, you know, this one's surely going to go in for him, and it didn't go in. I'd be more concerned if he wasn't generating. Remember a few games ago where he was, he had zeros across, or people with Texas and say he's doing cardio and NHL games, right? 'Cause it was like, he wasn't doing anything and is like playing in 15 minutes. Yeah, no, it is, but that's what we were saying. I mean, tonight wasn't much better. It's two-shot attempt. No, but yeah, but two-shot attempts. But you saw him how aggressive he was on the four-check, crashing the net, and he was in the middle of things. He was in the mix tonight, but, man, 32 games, now he has a score to goal. And it seems like he gets tougher and tougher every game. Yeah, it's rough. The thing too is, it's all well and good to say, all right, this guy's not producing, he should go down the lineup. I totally get it. But this text here from JB and Alberta, "Love that we grinded out a win versus a team "that embarrasses last week." "But PDG, McKayev, Souter, Blooger, Lafferty, Oman, "six combined goals since New Year's. "Team is way too many guys that can't buy a goal. "I don't want to lose a great a prospect, "but the future is now, so we can't waste the season "because half the forward group hasn't scored a goal "since the goalies started wearing masks." (laughing) That's when JB and Alberta, but, like, that's the thing. If you think McKayev is struggling and you want him to go down, the lineup, well, who's the one that's getting bumped up? But Colson's really the only candidate right now. It's not gonna be PDG, like, we've seen that experiment. It can work, but it's not exactly inspiring. I'd rather just have McKayev there 'cause you need McKayev to be good. You're paying him decent money. You're better off investing in him in that spot over PDG. Lafferty, it can work in a flash. Garland, we've seen it just doesn't work. Two puck dominant players like him and Miller. Just doesn't fit, so right now, you're opting to other McKayev or put Colson. Well, that's why they're knocking on the trade door and to answer JB's question, too. Or to that comment, it's a long season and you are gonna go through ups and downs. It connects, like JT himself mentioned, scored a lot of goals earlier this season. Something we talked about some months back that I don't know if the Canucks gonna be winning six, two games the whole season. There'll be a lot of two-one wins. We're starting to see that really gearing down now towards the end of the season. So we'll continue talking about that on the other side. We'll hear from Elias Patterson. As we continue breaking down, a two-one Canucks overtime win over the LA Kings. And this is the Canucks Central post-game show presented by the number five orange. So the game is over, but as your night really done, the number five is open. More coming up next on SportsNet 650. - The most opinionated Canucks show out there. Canucks taught with Jamie Dodd and Thomas Drans. Be sure to subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. - This is the Canucks Central post-game show. Join the discussion on the official home of the Canucks. SportsNet 650 and the SportsNet Radio Network. - Hughes goes left wing for Miller. And back to Hughes. Top of the point to Miller, left circle. Doesn't have a shot, goes back to Hughes. Again to Miller, left wing, side of the golf professor. Back to Miller, one timer, he scores. JT Miller drives it through, can't tell but from the top of the left circle. And the Canucks come from behind to win it in LA. Two to one in overtime. And JT Miller's got his 31st goal of the season. - And this was patient play by the Vancouver Canucks on the delayed penalty. They didn't rush anything. As Quinn Hughes and JT Miller played the puck back and forth at the point. From the right point to the left point, eventually they get it down low to Brock Besser, who pops it back up to JT Miller. And it goes right through Cam Talbot. - Yeah, I mean we have a handful of plays against the 4 on 3. We scored no time a couple of weeks ago on one of them. You know, on the first time I rolled, you know, it's kind of just to see which way they're positioned and they were out pretty far. So, you know, we have another option and we kind of yelled the other option. And, you know, not lucky, but, you know, nice to see it work out. - JT Miller, Canucks win 2-1 over the Kings in LA. And this is the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five orange on Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet radio networks out to your shot. With the Bickness R, keep your thoughts coming in to our Dunbar Lumber text inbox, 65650. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650. And we do have a lot of reaction here tonight on the text inbox, 65650. Peter and Vancouver, as far as Carson Soussey goes, says, "So Coach T's comments on Soussey are what I've been saying all season calm. I watched all cracking games during their playoff run last year and was particularly impressed with Soussey. He would retrieve a dump and under fast, heavy four-check pressure, absorb the hit, maintain possession and make a calm, intelligent play with the puck. He's a much more important piece than most give him credit for. That's Peter and Vancouver. That is a very good text message by Peter. And he's been even better than I thought he would be. I had some questions about he plays the 16, 17 minutes a game. How would he fare if he came to a tougher environment potentially and a team that would have to rely on him more? Now, because of the injuries, he hasn't played a ton of minutes yet, but every time he has, in any tough situation he's been in, he's excelled in. Like, I had some questions about his puck moving ability under pressure, no concerns whatsoever about that. So I think Peter is bang on and he has been absolutely terrific in every game he's played so far. - It was a player that you bring in and you hope the projection shows he can take a step up and he was put in third pairing duties at times in Seattle. He's played like a real true number three, which is a huge find at the price point that the Canucks have him, but just a credible, solid, safe player. And here's the thing, like with Myers, there are games where you see the upside, right? And it's just so tantalizing. And then you can be dominant. But like a true number three is still a very, very strong NHL defense with the very high floor. And that's my concern at times with Myers, is the floor drops out. - Yeah. - Sushi like, can't think of a bad Carson Sushi game this year. - No, I mean, there's been a couple of times he's turned the puck over or something, which happens every player at some point. - Occupational hazard. - Exactly, especially on the back end, those things are going to happen. But yeah, I can't really think of him being bad in a game. And I know sometimes people point to the stat cards and be like, well, look at the possession data or whatever, and to me, game to game, it doesn't always tell you the whole story. But I think Carson Sushi, yeah, I can't think of too many games. He wasn't great. A lot of takes coming in on the text unboxed. Now, sea legs texted in before the game. And he said, going to be a great win tonight. The text back post game, it says, called it, good games, Sushi's a real good player. Quinn Hughes, wow, back again. Here we go, boys, goal connects, go. That's sea legs texting in. And Quinn Hughes, I know we mentioned him before too, but he really was the Canucks engine tonight. Like from the get go, he was really pushing the pace forward. And you know, when you have him going, you have now, you know, a guy like Sushi giving you some more help on the back end of your overall defense. It goes a long way. I know some people texted in about Philip Huronik, you know, saying he wasn't great tonight. He had some moments where not to be negative. Danapoko says, but Huronik left a lot to be desired for weeks now shooting pucks into Shinsmore and Edler. Happened all night again, ringing the puck blindly up the boards. And you know, we mentioned obviously the first goal of the Kings scored. Now it wasn't just him, it was JT and Hughes as well. I do think it's been a bit of a tough go for him. Now, over the course of a long season, these things will happen. Patterson's gone through it, JT's gone through it, albeit far less than, you know, other guys obviously. Quinn, we're just talking about him finding his game again after going through it. But I do think it's fair to say that Huronik's kind of going through one of those spots, even if he's picking up points, whereas overall game isn't quite up to the standard. We know he's capable of playing at. - Well, it's three points and... No, it's more than that, isn't it? I think so. - Yeah, sorry. But here recently, tonight, he ends up playing 26 minutes. Edler, I was right, it was three points in six games here. - Six games, yeah. - That's okay, that means not bad three points. Like he's picking up some points, he's playing a lot of minutes, but you know... - Well, seven games tonight, 'cause he didn't get a point. There you go. - Yeah, tonight I thought you struggled a little bit at times. But he ends up playing 26 minutes tonight. And to the textures point of the shots hitting bodies, he ends up taking 10 shot attempts tonight, two of them on goal six, blocked, and then two misses as well. So, but three hits tonight, two block shots himself. So kind of a stat-filled day for Philopronic. But yeah, he's not been as sharp, but as guys around him start picking up their sharpness, like Queen Hughes, like in the least, Patterson, there's a certain you'll see a better improved performance from Philopronic as well. Yeah, I would expect that as well. All right, keep your thoughts coming into our text inbox. Let's take, you know what? Do we have time to take a phone call right now? - Sure, they gotta be quick. - All right, let's go to Josh and Naimo. Josh, you have about a minute. What's on your mind here tonight? - Hey, stat pick. Hope you guys are having a good evening and join the show as always. - Thank you. - Just a good question about the living home head and walking during the second Twitter kind of went into a usual overreaction moment. So I've been kind of staring at the TVA if I can't find it, but I thought that a player couldn't be trained. I thought that they could be taken out if there was injury precautions and be treated after, my evening didn't be treated during. Just wanted to know if you guys had any insight on this one. Hey, guys, I'll have a listen to your answer. - Hey, Josh, thanks for your phone call. To be completely honest, I can't give you a 100% clear answer. I don't know if there's anything that prohibits a player from getting traded during game. We don't see it in a hockey, as much as you see in baseball, it's happened a lot. - I feel like someone was sat down in the whole game. - I think you can get sat down. I think at the point is like, yeah, you probably get taken out of the lineup or something. You can't physically be traded until after the game. Maybe it's one of those technicality things. - Yeah. - But we'll try to get the proper answer to you. - Yeah, first concrete, I don't have a percent. - But he came back in the game. - He came back and it was fun. Yes, but to the point, you know, he made about, you know, if somebody's getting traded, usually that's why they keep the guys out before the game. That's kind of what happens instead. All right, keep your thoughts coming into our text in the box. We'll get to more of those. Plus, we'll get to Elias Pedersen's thoughts and we'll hear from Ian McIntyre as a Connect Central post-game show rolls on, presented by the number five orange on the home of your Canucks, Sportsnet 650, and the Sportsnet Radio Network. - The most comprehensive Canucks coverage in the city. - The Canucks Central with Dan Ritio and Satyar Shah. Be sure to subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. - This is where you talk Canucks. You're listening to the Canucks Central post-game show on the official home of the Canucks. - Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet Radio Network. - Use spins into the slot away from LaFairy Air, drops to Heronic, left side long, wrist shot is blocked, hues holds in right point and spins it to the end boards for Niels Hoaglander. Hoaglander, protected the puck from Copitar down low, drops it back to Pedersen off the bench, right circle, into the slot, he scores! Elias Pedersen with a great deep to the middle, outweights Cam Talmad, and ties the game at one for the Canucks in the late stages of the second period. - What a goal Elias Pedersen has been buzzing the whole second period, and he gets a goal for the Vancouver Canucks to tie it up, coming off the bench, and just going downhill as the Canucks have the LA Kings hemmed in their own zone, but Niels Hoaglander takes the puck down low, sees Pedersen coming from the bench on the right hand side, and then Pedersen cuts to the middle, gets the puck through, Moverara and ends up moving past Drew Dougherty, who's tired. What a goal by Elias Pedersen to make it one-one. - Elias Pedersen brought the Canucks back, one-one tie at the time, Canucks win two-one in overtime, against the Kings, JT Miller with a game-winning goal. A lot of big moments in this game. JT with the game-winner in overtime, Pedersen's incredible effort on the goal to tie the game up, Thatcher Demko's sprawling glove save on Alex Turkkaw to save of the year candidate across the National Hockey League. A game where it was a tight game, low event, generally speaking, but a lot of big all moments in it as well. And the Canucks this time coming out in front, and you are listening to the Canucks Central Post Game Show on home of your Canucks, sports on 650, presented by the number five orange. All right, keep your thoughts coming into our Texan inbox, 650, 650, and we'll get to some of your thoughts as the show goes on here. We are gonna play the thoughts of Elias Pedersen coming up in just a moment. You heard the goal coming in, so we'll get his thoughts here in a moment as well. And I know we have a lot of people that have been timing over Pedersen over the last little while, and I thought it was interesting that we didn't get a lot of yeah, butt games. - Sure. - I don't know. - J and Poco texted and said, hey, oh, look what happens when he's actually assertive, kind of giving him backhand and compliment to it, but not a lot of negative compliments. And I thought Pedersen overall tonight, big, had a strong game. Like I thought he was in the middle of a lot of scoring chances. - A lot of rap rounds again. - Yeah, that I can, you know, maybe I can take, he scored like one goal on the rap round or two, and he's tried like maybe a hundred, but a lot of rap around chances. - I know the number of how many it's actually a bit. - But hasn't been that many yet, but he had a couple of great eight chances. One, best for set up, a quick up from Quinn Hughes in the second period. Bester makes a pass from the near wall, cross-ice, the Pedersen was coming downhill. The shock is somewhat deflected. It's not the hardest shot that ends up on net, but it's a great eight chance, especially with how that play came about. And I thought overall he was winning pucks. He was finding space for himself, skating well. It was an effective performance that you would say, he looked like this Pedersen. We know what he's capable of doing. And I thought he could have even had a bigger game than just having a single goal. - So we now has 10 shots on goals from rap around 10. Now that doesn't even point out how many attempts he has, but it's per NHL.com because they do it by shot type. He's got 10 shots on goal. - 10 shots on goal. - Just from raps. - So it was only off by 90. - Right, again. - I'm just kidding, but yes. - You were tracking attempts, I think, so. - You think that that's how many it's like that? - You might have a 10% shot on goal rate. 650, 650, Jeff and Mission. Quinn Hughes doesn't get the Norris nod this season. It's gonna be a crime, multiple 60 assist seasons, an absolute offensive powerhouse, extraordinary skater and a defensive force. Give that man what he deserves. And the stat going around tonight for Quinn Hughes, he comes the fourth blue liner in NHL history with three straight 60 assist seasons joining Paul Coffey, Bobby Orr and Ray Bork. Some good company, he always keeps himself in. - Yeah, not bad company at all. So if we don't have an answer to your question, I can feel pretty safe that our listeners will find an answer and we got one here. - Nice one, yeah. - So this one, Tyler says, I don't know if this is a rule still, but Matt Duchain's first trade happened mid-game and somebody else texted in. Didn't Duchain get traded mid-game in 2017. - There you go. - So there you go. Yeah, I didn't think it was, but I didn't say for sure, but yeah, there you go. - Fantastic. - 'Cause the story ends in the inbox. - You love it. - Put it in work. - Yeah, you love it. All right, we'll get to more of your thoughts coming up in a little bit. Plus we have Ian McIntyre coming across, but you heard Elias Patterson scored a goal. We mentioned his game tonight. And here is Elias Patterson talking about balancing back against the Kings after losing against them at home ice last week. - So doing what happened five days, going home ice and was still good to beat the Kings in that fashion? - Yeah, definitely. We talked about the way we want to play. And I think we, I mean, both teams play well, to get defensive, but I liked our effort the whole game. We stuck with it. Still, gave me a few looks, definitely third, and then them are made another highlight save, so. - What about the fashion, which you guys have won the last two games? Elias 2-1, low scoring, relatively low event. - Yeah, I think that's what we need to do. Have good structure and get defense. And then we will get our looks from that. And I think that was slipping a little bit lately, but yeah, we talked about it to get back on track, and especially in that regard. - Is it tough to stay patient against team like the team? - I mean, you have to, otherwise it will watch you nest. They're well-structured team as well. But yeah, very happy with our win today. - Third straight, 30 goal season for you. Joined a lot of franchise grades. Was it mean to hit that? - Ah, that's, yeah, I didn't pay attention to that. But that's, that's cool. It's, I'm happy with that. It's been a little while, or if your game seems so score so happy to get it in. Get that in. - What you see in your goal? - Ah, I saw, I got a good puck from, from Hawks. And then I saw, I had a lot of time. So, I was thinking shooting it. But the other day, I think it was, I was standing still, so you just try to go around and shoot it. Almost, I missed my shot. But luckily it was, no net, no goal in the net at that moment. - That is Elias, Elias Patterson, after the game, talking about feeling good to get that goal. His 30th of the season, his 3rd straight game, 3rd straight season scoring 30 goals. And at 39 last year, does he crest 40 this year? Well, he has 18 games to go. And he's 10 goals short of that. I mean, we know he can get red hot. That's a lot of goals though, to score in 18 games. But we'll see. - If he gets hot, be getting hot at the right time. Also, big shout out to Connor Garland on that play. Because he's a part of the net. - Yeah, yeah. - And he's outside the craze. And he can even see he's got the hands up. He's like, "Hey, look, I'm out here." - Yeah. - It's not me. - I'm not doing anything, I'm not doing anything. - It's something else. Have you complained it's not on me? - Yeah. - And so he's there in the right spot. And Talbot's having trouble getting across. And as Patterson mentioned, it's a wide open net for him to get his 30th of the season. - Yeah, and Patterson was strong. That line was strong. We mentioned JT Miller scoring the game winner. And in what their line we're cooking at times tonight. And Elias Lenholm, you know, we haven't spent a ton of time on him tonight. But I thought he was really strong. Renfrew Marko texted and says, "People underestimate how hard it is for other teams to play against three good centers like Patterson, Miller, and Lenholm. That presents huge problems for the other team and nothing but options for Tockett. I vote leave it the way it is and look for a cheaper winger upgrade." That's Renfrew Marko texting in. But I thought Lenholm tonight had a strong game. And if you're trying to project for the playoffs, right? We mentioned playoff hockey having that depth down the middle, having each line that can win. You know, to me, this is a sign of, okay, what he can provide in the playoffs. Even if, say, the scoring isn't always there. Like, I think he can really tilt play in your favor and win a lot of pucks, you know, in tough situations. And I think those things really do matter if you want him win a seven game series. - He stands out a lot more situational than I think minute to minute, which is still incredibly valuable. But nevertheless, I did think he had a strong game and big credit as well to his line mates. 'Cause, but Colson keeps drawing eyes, keeps drawing eyes. And Garland, a lot of tough effort plays. You know, we mentioned the one redives to the corner and keeps that puck alive that eventually led to the goal. He's obviously in front of the net on the Patterson goal. But put Colson, man. It's very encouraging that he's willing to be this aggressive. Like, there was a couple of passes where he's trying to hit, you know, stretch passes, where he's the guy on the ball. - Yeah. - In the defensive zone, he takes a pass and it fires a pass. It's great stuff to see. - Oh, the coach mentioned be reckless. Not in terms of, you know, just be reckless bad, but don't be afraid of doing things. And he's not. He's seeing things recognizing it. It's like he's trusting his first instinct. You know, and I think that's a really-- - It's a huge step. - And I thought, you know, we had this text here earlier, traditional Suke. And this is a great text about what Colson says. But Colson looks like a guy who is more comfortable in his own skin. He isn't trying to be Matt Boldy and be the, you know, the tenth overall pick. All the nucks need is for him to be the net positive, each shift. That helps this team a lot. And it does. And, you know, in terms of the upside, we'll see where it lands. But he can be a shift to shift difference maker because of how he plays in everything you just outlined about his game. - That's what's so funny about him, right? It's, I don't know if anyone's expecting like a 35 goal score. I don't know if anyone's expecting a Zukarello type playmaker off the wing or something like that. But the prototype I look at, that it feels like he can replicate and tagging a couple of Russian players on this, but it's who are the last two cup champions? And Tushkin and Barbershev, right? - Yeah. - I'm not saying he's going to do that, these playoffs or anything like that. - But profile of player. - But that profile of player, and you can see it's so important to have in your lineup. And if he can grow, I know his name is kind of in the rumor mill and pending the player, like it wouldn't be opposed. - But you and I have always been higher on him too. - Yeah. - You know, like, you know, if you would have asked me last year, who do I think has a better chance of being an everyday NHL player between him and Hoaglander? I would have gone with Podkolzen. Now, we'll see ultimately where that lands over the course of their careers. Right now, Hoaglander of course is arriving, so to speak this season, tremendous campaign for him. And we talked about how good he was here tonight. But there are a lot of parts of Podkolzen's game that are translatable to being an effective national hockey player. - All the thing that Hoaglander does, Podkolzen can do too. - Yeah, except-- - And also probably do better. - And he has size as well, you know, I'd say his shots better. I'd say the first three steps, Hoaglander's a bit more explosive. For instance, I'd say Hoaglander's overall skilled level, slightly higher or two. But in terms of getting stuff done, there's a lot Podkolzen can do. And he may never be a higher end guy, but he's got a great shot too. Like, it's not like there's nothing there in his game, but I thought he played well here tonight. But let's go to LA and let's get the thoughts of a man who was there and saw it with his own eyes. We call him the triple threat. You watch him on TV, you read him on digital, and you're about to hear him on radio. He is Ian McIntyre. (upbeat music) - I feel so emboldened by the Canucks focus and discipline that I'm thinking of visiting the Mexican food truck that is always parked outside the rink here in LA. And I once had the best quesadilla I've had in my life. - So I think I may have that. - There you go. - May not snack after radio. - That's a good call. You know what, I would maybe try that too. There's some great Mexican food there. So I would not be surprised, it's fantastic. - I gotta say, it's a little bit sketchy. - Okay. (laughing) But I mean, I'm sure the guy in the truck will come out if I need assistance. - There you go. - Yeah. - I'm sure you have his customers back. - Plus you're worldwide, people won't infringe on the personal space of Ian McIntyre. Come on, they know, they know. You're wearing a suit, come on. - Well, I bought another guy. Last time I was there, I bought another guy. Casey Dea too. - Oh, massive. - And he, yeah, he needed it too. He was, he needed a good meal. So, yeah. - So we ate them together, had a nice conversation. - What a gentleman. See, that's why you're the man of the people there, Ian. And, you know, as far as what we saw on the ice, I know it's been a long night for you as well, getting everything done there. We were just talking about Vasily Putcoza. Now two games for him. We thought he was very effective tonight. How did you think he looked in person against the kings? - Yeah, honestly, I didn't notice him as much tonight as I did against ducks on Sunday. But I'm also not seeing him, I'm not seeing him do anything wrong either, which is a positive thing. I think tonight he got moved around slightly, had a couple of shifts on the fourth line in the third period. But I mean, all four lines placed. That's not like, you know, that's not a terrible thing. - Yeah, I think he's looked fine. You know, I talked to him yesterday. I just haven't had the chance to write it because there's been so much going on. But I mentioned it to Murph on TV tonight. You know, Bick, I was on TV tonight with dad. - Nice, I didn't notice. - Yeah, it was kind of fun. I'll buy the dressing room, I kind of like, 'cause I'm not allowed to go anywhere near there otherwise. But TV has some mysterious power that allows you access to places that you normally can't go. So I kind of like being down there and then you see the guys coming out, staging in the hallway before going on to the ice for the third period and yelling and going through their rituals. So it's kind of fun that way. But I did talk about goggles and he just, he told me he's more confident and more comfortable than he was. And that's how he looks. And, you know, for him as, you know, let's take a step back and look at Nils Holdlander and what happened with him last year. You know, basically spending a remedial season learning to play hockey in the American Hockey League. And we see the benefit of that now, but where Holdlander had a lot of kind of X and O's teaching, I don't think it's quite, it was the same challenge necessarily with pod calls in. By all means, pod calls in has a lot to learn about, you know, where to be in positioning in what situation, but for him, it's so much more about confidence. It's not just about the X's and O's 'cause I think he had a grasp of that. He was just, it was paralysis by analysis. And, you know, Rick Talking had said to us many times last year that they just need pod calls and, you know, to play freely and to not overthink things because that's what was happening. And, you know, probably you need, you need good results. You need to do well to reinforce that. So in that respect, so far, so good. It's only been two games, but he's looked good. He's looked comfortable. And I know from talking to him that he feels comfortable. Now he just needs to start stacking those games one on top of another until he gets to the point where he isn't, you know, having to stop his feet to think about where he's supposed to be. And it just comes naturally to him. And he has confidence to do the things that make him such a good player, you know, playing in direct lines and, you know, the way he shoots the puck, how strong he is on the puck. And he's looked good in all of those things so far. - Carson Sousi did it again coming back from injury and just looked like he wasn't at a place at all. The timing issues were totally fine. And he was doing it on the right side of the ice. - Yeah, I talked to Ian Cole about that this morning because last time they played together, I think it was Cole on the right, which you see on the left, but I could be mistaken. But Ian said the great thing, what he likes about the pairing is that each of them can play either side. And when you watch, there were times when within the same shift, you know, one guy would cross over and the other guy and suddenly, you know, Cole was on the right side. But I thought Sousi looked. I couldn't believe how good he looked considering the amount of time that he has missed and, you know, made some really good defensive plays. You know, he's got such a good stick. So mobile for a guy that size and such a good defensive instincts. You know, he's gonna help this team. He may only play 18 minutes a game, which is what his average is. Although we know that Canucks have a fairly balanced bottom four when everyone's healthy, but this is a guy who's gonna help. Hopefully stays healthy. - Yeah, absolutely. I think that's a big hope of course. Now, as far as the higher end players in this game go, Elias Patterson scored a big goal. Now it came after, you know, two really good shifts in the previous, it was Lindholm line on first. And, you know, the Patterson line, Patterson jumps on and scores a great goal. But what did you make of the way Patterson played and his impact tonight in a big grudge match type of game against the Kings? - Yeah, I thought it was kind of a step up kind of game for Elias. You know, the story of the day was the Chris Johnson tweet about Elias Lindholm and possibly getting them, they get Jake Gensle out of it. But really, the whole idea of getting Gensle, much like the idea of getting Lindholm, is to help Patterson, to find someone to get Patterson going. And Patterson is such a good player, such a talented player, and now such an extremely high player, that he has to be able to get himself going. And I thought, you know, it shouldn't be Nils Holglander driving that line. It should be Elias Patterson driving that line. And I thought tonight, Patterson did drive his line. He seemed to have a lot more, to me, a lot more determination. He was moving his feet really well. And by the way, I have to sadly report that my taco truck is now leaving. - Oh, no, yeah. - Yes, so no quesadilla tonight for me. But I thought, I thought Patterson was excellent. And the fact that he scored that beautiful goal, hopefully, you know, he, as he reminded us, you know, he is human. And, you know, which means he has a lot of the same doubts and questions that the rest of us have when things aren't going well. So the fact that he scored a goal like that, was a really good player in a tight checking game, not the kind of game that you necessarily would equate with Elias Patterson and the team one. I think those are all positive things. Definitely a step in the right direction for him tonight. - People want to know what's going on behind the scenes there. Is there like a Vespa honking at you? (laughing) - There was, there, well, not recently, but a couple of minutes ago, a guy rolled down his window and yelled something at me, which of course made me nervous. But I think it's actually a Canucks fan. - Oh, fair enough, fair enough, yeah. - Yeah, say I told you, you're worldwide, worldwide. - Should I pass in my earfods and you can talk to him? (laughing) - Just really quickly, I didn't hear what you said on TV 'cause we were busy, but thoughts on the whole, on the whole Lindom thing from earlier today? - Yeah, we didn't say anything on TV about the Lindom thing. - Okay. - You didn't miss anything. We talked, you know, I was only on one intermission and we talked about Susie and Todd Colson and Breeze Blaugh. And I really wanted to talk about Breeze Blaugh 'cause I don't think he's a guy that people should forget. What he's been through to get back to this stage. I know he's now been reassigned to Anaheim and maybe somebody puts a claim on him, I hope not. But this is a guy who was underrated when he was healthy. He was missed when he was injured. And, you know, his journey to get to this point, I don't just mean back from a concussion. But just in his career, it's one of the longest serving guys in the organization, like six years in the organization before he was going to be on an NHL roster at the start of the season, which was supposed to be this year until he got hurt and had a serious, serious concussion until a month ago, really had questions himself about was he gonna play again? Because there'd been so little progress in his recovery. But he has seen, you know, one of the advantages of working for or playing for a professional sports organization like the Canucks is you have a lot of resources and they use those resources. They found, they sent him to other specialists. He traveled, you know, to see some people. And at some point in the last month, you know, things kind of were unlocked a little bit for him and he got better in a hurry. He said his progress the last two weeks has been incredible. And this guy who thought it's, you know, career might be over and who knows? We know with concussions, this is like for him to practice on Monday fully with the team. That's like, you know, step three out of maybe 10 things we need to see before we'll know that his career is still gonna be okay. But it was a great moment for him and the team when he was here in LA fully practicing with him. You couldn't get the smile off his face. - I'm Mac, fantastic stuff here tonight. Appreciate your time. We'll let you get off the streets of LA. It's getting late and dark. We wanted you to get home in one piece and we want to be able to chat with you from Vegas on Thursday when the Canucks wrap up. What could be a very successful three-game road trip? - Well, you will not talk to me from Vegas on Thursday 'cause I'll be in sunny, Steveston. - Ah. - Here we go. I'm coming home. - Much safer town than LA, yes. - Hey, LA's fine. You know, the downtown, like a lot of places, downtown has changed a lot, right? The LA library, there's so hundreds of Canucks fans here tonight. I remember a time with the sedines. It felt like there was two or 3,000 of them in the building, but it's a great place to come and see a game, especially when you can double up and see the ducks. But I'm going home tomorrow. - All right. - Because if I went to Vegas, there would be about a 6 a.m. flight, and I think is what Merp is on. And it's trade deadline, Dave. Who knows what could happen while you're in the air? - No, true, true. - So I'm going home to get, I'm going home to get ready for Friday. - Yeah, and who knows, maybe by the time you land, the Canucks have pulled off something big, I wouldn't put it past these guys, so a good thing will save you back. - Yeah, LA has went home, we hardly knew you. - Yeah, well, they've been working on a lot of stuff. I did get one. I asked for an interview with Aldine, and he declined, but he did give me a statement. Where he basically reiterated that he thinks it's on him to do everything he can to help this team, because the players and the coaches have earned it, and they're leaving no stone unturned as they try to improve the team. - Well, they've been successful making trades, so I'm not expecting anything less in the next few days here. Ian Gray stuff has always looked forward to reading your latest on SportsNet.ca. - All right, see you guys. I'm gonna have to find a Taco Bell drive through. - Good luck finding a quesadilla. - It won't be the same, the food truck was amazing. - I know you'll just have to take my word for it, so. - No, I'll take it as fact. We trust you, we know what you were looking at. - All right, guys, see ya. - See ya. - That's Ian McIntyre. Mike into Boston, Texas, and it says, "Do we just witness Ian starting a Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, Michigan quesadillas?" - Maybe, just maybe, I hope so. We'll be quite the adventure. All right, that'll do it for us here tonight. I appreciate every single one of you listening and being part of it. Bick, you're back at it tomorrow. - People know three o'clock. - Three o'clock, that's happening. Thanks a fast Eddie Gregory producing the show yet again. Thanks you for listening, calling in, participating, being part of it. It's always a pleasure. Can't wait to be back at it again on Thursday when the Canucks take on the Vegas gold tonight. So I'm Satyar Shah, we'll be back while on Canucks Central tomorrow, four to six. With Dan Reechill, it's overrated underrated. You can get your submissions in for that. Plus, we'll talk to Kevin Woodley and this has been the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five orange of Vancouver legend. They've got sports too, right here on SportsNet 650.
