I Hate This Team Buffalo correspondent and returning champion @COAbrah joins the show to chat the Sabres, David Copperfield, and the Canucks new players jersey numbers
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I Hate This Team
119 - Good News Honey ft. COAbrah
I Hate This Team Buffalo correspondent and returning champion @COAbrah joins the show to chat the Sabres, David Copperfield, and the Canucks new players jersey numbers outro: OLAS - Zemgus Girgensons patreon.com/IHateThisTeam to support da show!
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- 11 Jul 2024
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[MUSIC] >> Yo, what's up, Bappin Sports fans? >> This year, I hate this team for this week. I'm Aaron. With me as always, my co-host, Stefan Heck. >> Of course. >> What was the full name today? >> I like it. >> We're feeling professional. >> Yeah, well, we are best, so we got to be professional, you know? >> That's right. And then our special guest, the returning champion. >> Yeah, probably our most frequent guest in the world. >> Yeah, guest host all the time, too. >> Yeah. >> When Stefan goes gallivanting off to fucking Australia for his friends waiting in Asia. >> I went to Taiwan earlier last year, and then I went to Australia in like November. >> I think you only missed like an episode, so I recorded with John once. >> Yeah, I think that's right. >> Yeah. >> Anyways. >> Not as much traveling this year. I'm just going to- >> Must be nice. >> Going to San Diego for TwitchCon, and that's pretty much it, so. >> So I want your guys' opinion here. >> Yeah. >> By like one little trip this year, we're going to Vegas for a couple nights end of October. >> Okay. >> And I could go watch the Vegas Golden Knights take on Macklin Celebrini and the San Jose Sharks. >> Mm-hm, okay. >> Now, is it, I kind of just want to like go see a show. I want to go see like Absinthe again, because I saw it 10 years ago, and it was awesome. >> So wait, what's Absinthe? >> Like Courtney's ever been, it's like Cirque du Soleil like Fizzes strength and shit. >> Okay. >> But it's like raunchy and R-rated, so they, there's like a comedian host that like tells fucking jokes in between and like makes fun of the audience and stuff. And then, you know, a couple comes out on roller blades and she'll like wrap her ankles around his neck and he'll go around in a circle and like spin her over top the auto bed. >> [LAUGH] >> No, no, no, not like- >> I got thighs around Mack, but like- >> I'm sorry, go ahead. >> [LAUGH] >> Yeah, I said R-rated, not like X-rated. >> Okay. >> They like, they pulled some fucking old lady when I was there up onto the stage. And got her set on a chair and then brought up like two of the like hunkiest studs that she could, they could find like the biggest musculous dude. >> Yeah, so many of those- >> They would go up on stage and they were like, we're gonna do a lap dance contest. And as I recall, like the one guy like took off his shirt and he had like a six pack and he was like rubbing up on this lady while her husband was getting pissed off in the front row. >> That's pretty good. That does remind me of like when I was at Tom and Demi's wedding. And you know how like when people leave a wedding, they'll get in like a limo with like cans on the back. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> Two extremely handsome musculous strong men to carry them out of their wedding shirtless with cans attached to the strong man. >> Whoa. >> It was so good. It was such an incredible day. >> That's very fun. >> Yeah. >> So wait, why are those your only two choices? Can't you do both? >> Well, I'm only going to be there for like, we get in late on the first night. So it's too late to see a show. And we leave like pretty late on the Sunday, but two, like the flights early enough that we would be able to like squeeze in a five o'clock show. So there's going to be time for like one big entertainment, let's say. >> I'm going to vote golden night's game only because I've had friends have gone and they said that it is over the top and kind of terrible, but like fun, like in a bad way, kind of, I think. >> Yeah. I'm sort of leaning that way too. >> I think it's also fun to go to a game between two teams where you don't, you're not a fan of either team. >> Right. >> I would be more into it if it wasn't against the sharks. Like if they were playing say, like another good team, we say Colorado. >> The sharks are going to be like kind of low key sort of fun. >> No, they're going to be better than, I mean, that's a low bar, but like Will Smith and Celebrini will be like fun to watch. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, but like I can see Will Smith and Celebrini at the saddle dome for probably a fraction of the cost. >> Yeah. The other thing I've heard too is like Vegas vibe though, you just want to go there for the vibe. The game's actually secondary. I want to see all the goofy shit, I want to see everybody dressed up like knights and stuff going on the ice like that. I mean, being in Buffalo, we have the exact opposite of that, just like a rotting, a rotting rink where you can actually hear crickets. I'd like to see people like lasers and giant fucking drums or whatever they do, I don't know. >> Yeah. So the saddle domes like the oldest arena in the league, right? And it stinks, but they do have a flame thrower that goes off that's like suspended by like the the jumbotron. There's like four of them that shoot flames and you can actually feel the flames in the second bowl, what they score. It's kind of cool. >> That's not bad. Yeah. I still lean towards going to the, I mean, I guess it depends on how much it is because I have heard from people in Vegas that the night games are like insanely overpriced, but like also like any show is going to be pretty overpriced too. >> It's like how much are they getting for a look at, how much are they getting for horny stomp or whatever you're going to see? >> It's horny Cirque du Soleil. >> Okay. >> It's like a hundred bucks, I think. >> Okay. >> It's like any show there like you go see like pen and teller or yeah, I've been looking at Vegas stuff just like on Reddit and so now my Reddit front page when I go there is like r/vagus. >> Yeah. >> And apparently everyone hates a David Copperfield and Chris Angel Mindfreak. >> Whoa. >> Chris Angel, you know what you should do is you should go to Chris Angel's restaurant. Do you guys know what it's called? >> These are fucking restaurant? >> Yeah. >> Stomach freak. >> Well, that would have been better than what he actually called it. >> Diarrhea freak. >> It's called, so it's outside Vegas, it's in Moapa Valley, it's like a town. It's like an hour outside Vegas. It's called Chris Angel's breakfast, lunch and pizza, but they call it Cabalp. They call it Cabalp. That's what he calls it. >> Cabalp rolls off the tongue. >> Yeah. It looks truly insane. So if you get the chance, I say you go to that instead of the show or the hockey game. >> Or the game. >> Yeah, go to Cabalp. >> Yeah. It's really insane. The menu is so nuts. The menu is like one of the most fucked up menus I've ever seen. >> Okay, so I'm looking at Vegas ticket prices now for the nights, right? >> Yeah. >> And it looks like the cheapest you can get is like behind the net second bowl up way high for like 100 bucks again. >> Okay. >> Like a decent second bowl ticket, it's like closer to 200. And then lower bowl, we are looking at yeah, 200 as well. >> It's probably just tough because like it's such a tourist city. So like the tickets are kind of always like people always want them because they're in town visiting and they want something to do. So it's not like in like most other cities where like if they're playing a shitty team, you couldn't get tickets like day of for like a decent price. Like I feel like with Vegas, it's like it's not even going to drop down that low, you know? I still, even with the bad seats, I still lean towards. I think the experience of going to a Vegas game would be a lot of fun. That gets my vote. >> Noted. >> Noted. >> Seconded. I think go do that. >> Yeah. >> Also because you've you've seen the other show before? >> I have, but like Courtney hasn't. >> Okay. >> Hmm. >> Well, I would be down to see some magic to one of my mind blown by fucking a sorcerer. I mean, there's a guy that won like America's got talents or something called like Shun Lim. >> Okay. >> But he doesn't say he's a magician. He's like, I'm an illusionist. Like he doesn't run into the. >> But like magic is, that is fun to see in person, especially in Vegas. >> Shun Lim. >> Yeah. >> Did you. >> That's not a bad option. >> Yeah. >> Did they ever clear up the whole thing about David Copperfield having that sex island? Because people seem really excited about it with it. Was that not a thing? Did I make that up in my dreams or something? >> No, you could, I might be out in a forum. >> David Copperfield. >> David Copperfield. >> I think he was taking women. >> To like a. >> Sex island. >> Yeah. >> Let's see. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Shit. >> Okay. >> Well, now I'm especially not going to see this is from May. >> I feel faces numerous allegations of sexual misconduct and new investigation. >> He met with Jeffrey Epstein at least three times. >> Yeah. Everyone's, oh, everyone cares about sex islands unless it's David Copperfield. >> Copperfield called and left messages for Epstein 16 times between 2004 and 2005. Okay. >> No call. >> That's, that's not great. >> Mm-hmm. >> Holy shit. >> Carla who claims she was 15 when she met Copperfield at a show of his in 1991, said she was approached by the magician after briefly appearing in his performance as a special guest. Despite being underage at the time, Carla alleges that Copperfield took her phone number and promised to take the teen out for dinner when she turned 18. >> Oh my god. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Well, you like to see the 18 there. I don't know what. >> On his, on his Jerry Seinfeld shit. >> Yeah. >> Come on. >> [LAUGH] >> Oh, yeah, I guess, I guess skip out on you, but. >> Yeah, no, we're gonna, we're gonna be the one hockey podcast is gonna bravely stand up against David Copperfield. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> This is, yeah. All right, don't have a good segue here, but let's talk about Buffalo Savers. >> [LAUGH] >> I mean, yeah, pedophilia is a good run-in because it's one of the only things slightly more depressing. >> [LAUGH] >> Yeah, how do you feel about their off season? Because obviously they. >> Just, just great guys. We're so excited. >> I thought they were gonna, the one move they made, I don't know, we'll get into it obviously. I thought they were gonna do a lot more stuff this off season. >> This is kind of the vibe that we've gotten every off season. >> Yeah. >> You wait for them to do more than nothing happens and then they always have to have the meeting where like Kevin Adams has to come out and do the all that we're happy with our team right now. I know a lot of people want us to make moves, but I think we're pretty happy where we're at right now. >> Right. >> He's done that now already and he does it every year, everyone's done it. I guess. >> I mean, you're talking to Canucks fans, you've been with us through the existence of this show and you've seen our evolution even in the last like two years, right? So. >> Great stuff. >> I really thought we were gonna pray ahead of you guys. >> I know. >> You could pull the tape where everyone's like, I don't know, the saber's look pretty good. >> The other thing that's like really fun about it is that I think we're, we've now won the award for having the 15th year in a row where we have the best prospect pool in the NHL. >> Yeah. >> And just nothing fucking ever happens. >> Yeah. >> I do think, I don't know. I feel like at some point it just has to click for them, but I, and I, I, it's weird because I like never really felt that way about the Canucks and then obviously they fired banning, they brought in like smart management. So maybe you have one more shitty year, like here's what I'm hoping for you guys is I hope you guys have just an awful start to the year, right? And then they fire Kevin Adams in like December and you can start to like turn things around because you have Lindy Ruff again, right? >> Yeah. So I think that's the, that's probably the biggest thing is Donnie meatballs out. >> Yeah. >> Lindy Ruff in, which is feels like, I don't even know. It feels like, I don't even know how to describe it really because like it's depressing, but at the same time it's like we're all so beaten that like bringing in Lindy's just, it's like, you know, like when you're in the hospital and they bring in a dog and you just, and you're like, I get to pet the dog like Lindy's we love Lindy and love, I love seeing him and I love what he's saying and I, if I heard hear one more person talking about the sabers say we got to get harder to play against. >> This is what they're very, very horny about this and this is what Lindy's vibe is. >> That's what bad teams and fans of bad teams always say because people were saying that with the Canucks for years, people were saying that with the Leafs for years, right? It's like, we need truculents, we need to be bad to play, we need to be like hard to play against. And it ends up with them being bad and just bringing in like plugs who suck, right? >> Which is what this looks like. >> I feel like as exciting young guys though, like I think- >> We've had exciting young guys for 20 years. >> Yeah, that's true. >> I don't think nothing ever happens, I will say this- >> Sam Ryan Hart, Jack Eichl. >> To other teams that wanna make a trade with us, if you do trade with us, which I would love to do for like a really nice top six, like left wing or like big defenseman, anybody you get with us from us is going to immediately win the Stanley Cup. So please come to us because if you look at the people that won the fucking Stanley Cup, Zach Bogosian, yeah, you can name a bunch of fucking losers, Cola Caposo is priced with this guy. >> Ryan Riley, I guess. >> He stops re-signing this piece of shit. Jim and Gergensen's, Jim and Gergensen's both, we're just a last year, we were waiting for him to be gone because we could have got rid of him back last year, and they re-signed him both again. And I am still not completely out of the woods thinking that Adams will re-sign our proposal again, just, >> Is he a friend now? >> Yeah, he is a free agent right now, and it seemed like that would be a peripherately good spot to like retire. >> Well, he hasn't grown tired yet. What a nice guy. There's just so many story, and the thing is he is legitimately a nice guy, yes. >> Yeah, okay. So that would you, do you not have a captain right now? >> Not at the moment, but I don't know. >> Okay, who do you think it's gonna be? >> I would like to be Darlene, but like people, people are say, tuck, cuz tuck's a local guy too. He's from Syracuse, which is pretty close, and he grew up as a Sabres fan. There's a lot of cute pictures of him, and Sabres is a kid. But Darlene makes a lot of sense, I don't know who else, but I mean like so. >> Like cousins, or is he like too young? >> Listen, I'm a proud owner of a cousin's jersey, I think he gives a fuck, and he's not afraid to fight, but he's actually kind of a little, we also had situations like tougher to play against, right? That's what we're talking about. Our team was just so soft last year, it was absolutely just repulsive. We had like, we had Thompson fighting, like really, some really bad stuff, like Jack. >> I remember the game against Vancouver, where I think JT Miller hit someone in the head or from behind or something, and there was zero response. >> There you go, cool, that Greenway was a piece of shit in the one game that we played against you guys. >> And we brought him in thinking that you could just bring in one guy, and it would change the whole vibe, but clearly not. I mean, we did see, go ahead. No, I like their off season. >> Yeah, listen, I don't hate it either, but then again, I'm always kind of overly optimistic, but I think they could have done more, and they still want to cap space. >> I think they should have traded their first round pick, I think. >> So they did, they actually traded down two spots to get a set round pick, and it was like 11, and they got a 14th and a 20 second round pick. >> Yeah, I guess they should have traded it for actual immediate help, I guess, but maybe there was nothing out there. >> They spun, I think that pick right into Beck Malenstein or whatever his name is. >> Oh, right. >> Yeah. >> So they got it from Washington. >> Apparently this Consta Helenius is the guy they picked, who's also, if you look- >> He seems like a good pick. >> He is a good pick, and apparently a lot of people had him even higher than 14 or every went. >> He's a guy that everyone says is very NHL ready, because he was playing in the finish men's league. >> Yes. >> And I know they just signed him too, so he might come over to the AHL this year, which could be fun. >> So yeah, so they're projecting him to go to Rochester immediately. Which is cool, and I mean, that'd be great, but I mean, he's like, if you look at all their picks, so the draft, I guess you start with the draft, right? We have like 15 million in cap space still, too, as of this moment, I think something around there. >> Okay. >> So we still could make some sort of a move, but I don't know. No one wants to come here. It's the other problems. I heard some other rumors the last couple days about Truba, like them being very, very in on Truba. >> Ooh. >> Ooh. >> Ooh. [LAUGH] >> Both of you made the same face at the same time. >> Does he shoot right or left? Is he a right shot or a left shot? >> I'm not sure, but he doesn't want to come here, so don't worry about it. >> He doesn't want to go anywhere. >> I know. >> Like that whole situation is crazy, because he has like the no movement clause, right? And he isn't waving to go anywhere, because his wife's like a doctor doing residency and he doesn't want to uproot it. And then Rangers fans are pissed, like you're so selfish. But my fucking wife was like doing her residency, and I didn't have to move jobs and got to keep living in New York City being the captain of the fucking New York Rangers. I'm not waving that shit either, fuck you. >> Also, you could do your residency here, and my wife does work in a hospital here, but the hospitals are way easier here. >> [LAUGH] >> You could just really just float here, you can just kind of put it in half speed. But that's just, hopefully he's listening. >> So obviously, the big things here, we've got, this will be our, I think, 13th year playoff drive. >> It was 13 last year. >> 2010, 2011 was the last year, right? >> Yeah, Philadelphia was the last time we played. >> That is fucking crazy, man. I was thinking about that today, like kind of mentally preparing for this episode. And we got, we were complaining about like, because it would have been what, nine years since the Canucks were in real playoffs, but we had that asterisk of like, well, they had the little bubble run. It was like, kind of fun, I guess, but not the real thing. Sabers don't even fucking have that. >> No. >> They don't even have the 2015 loss to the Calgary Flames and like the bullshit playoffs that we weren't even excited about, or the getting swept by losing sharks into the swept sweep, right? >> Sharks took this L.A. wasn't five. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That is such a long, goddamn time to not even make the fucking playoffs once, even as like a shit team. >> Oh, it's fucking really great. >> It's like it's hard to do that legitimately. >> I feel like half the fucking teams make the playoffs. >> Yeah. >> It's crazy. >> It's like kids at school. Like I've, I had kids get like a fucking 20 on an exam. Like if you just guessed, you wouldn't get a 20. You have to like try, you know what I mean? That's what we've been doing for fucking 15 years, essentially, almost. I mean, the last couple of platforms were just garbage. Like we got, I think we lost the first round of the fliers and then I don't know the one. But then just prior to that was like the, you know, the '06, '07 team with Breair and Drury before they left and that was kind of the last- >> The last of the conference finals, right? >> Right. >> Against Ottawa. >> I believe Secret. >> I believe so. >> Yeah. >> I was really pulling for that team. >> It was a great team. >> At that age, I was very much like a no-connect, no-care guy. Like I find as I've gotten older, I'm more into watching the league as a whole. >> Probably because the kinds of bads is like the one way to like get into it. >> But that's for whatever reason, I love the rest of the games. >> I love that Sabre's team and I was really pulling for them. >> I was surprised when Ottawa got spanked by the Ducks. >> Yeah, it was, it's been bad. I'll just say that. But also, we got a new owner, I don't even know how long he's been the owner, but like the entire drought, he's been the owner, this Terry Pagula guy. >> Right. >> But if you're familiar with him, but he's like a fracking guy and he came and swinging his dick around being like, if we get him, if we got to buy more players, I'll just drill another oil well, but now he turns out he's super cheap, he like basically slashed everybody in the front office. Like he cut it down to bare bones, just he's just trying to like go into money saving mode. We're constantly- >> Doesn't he only really care about the bills? >> Yeah. >> He doesn't really care about the sabers. >> Well then he buys the bills and it turns out, it feels like he cares about the bills more. >> Yeah. >> Even though in the press conference he was like crying about how he used to listen to Sabre's games on the radio from like Pennsylvania and he was like crying about how much he loved it, she'll better parole and all this shit, and he also famously said the only reason for our team existing is to win the Stanley Cup. So apparently still believes that, I don't know. I haven't gotten any updates on that. >> What's Jack Quinn looking like as someone who's in a keeper league, I know he's heard all the time, but when he plays, he's like so sick. >> He's so sick. That was one of my, I have a thing. I wrote notes guys. I don't know if you'd seen. >> Okay. >> Let's go. >> I love it. >> I don't know. One of the things I have on here is, well, Krebs, question mark, and then Jack Quinn, question mark, which is that I think Quinn's going to be good. I mean, you look at the perspective depth chart. I mean, he's kind of penciling to be the second line, right wing, right? It should be cousins, maybe Zacher now, and Quinn hopefully, but I don't know. So this gets into initially what I was going to say was, so you start off, we have a bunch of cap space. And basically what we did was redo the bottom six, right? We basically just flushed the entire bottom six out. You're going to still keep Thompson and Tuck. I think everybody wants her to be a real deal left wing, if you could get one, another time. I don't think that's going to happen based on my prior experience, but maybe now that's going to be Paterka, right? Like Paterka was. >> Okay. He looked good last year, didn't he? >> Real good. >> He was reduced as well. >> What do you have? He had 22 goals and what? Or 28 goals, 22 assists. >> And a really high shot rate guy. He was a great player to pick up when you were just streaming an ad drop in like a weekly fantasy hockey, because he always got a ton of shots and every now and then he'd pop off with a few goals. >> Yeah. I mean, he was great. I love Paterka. I think he skates real hard. I like him a lot. He could, I don't know if he's like a legit like first line guy, but depending on what our lines are, you know, we'll see. But yeah, so you're looking at Paterka, possibly Thompson talk, hopefully you get someone else to, for Paterka, he gets Zucker, Cousins, Quinn on the second line. And then it's kind of a mess now. We pick up Ryan McLeod. >> Mm-hmm. >> From Ottawa, which-- >> Edmonton. >> Edmonton. I'm sorry. My bad. The Canadian cities are the same to me really. From Edmonton. So there is one thing that seems like the-- so this-- we got Obie Kubel, we got Sam Lafferty, you got this Beckmanonstein guy, probably Zach Benson, probably Jordan Greenway on the bottom. But all of the guys we picked up, of the one, two, three, four guys we picked up, I saw some stat that said they are in the top 4%-- top 4% tile. So like, they're 100-- you know, of the fastest people in the league. So like-- >> Yeah. >> McLeod was rated like just-- like just as fast for-- >> He's in the 99th percentile. >> Yeah, yeah. He's like just as fast as fucking Conor McDavid or something like that. >> Yeah. So Jay Fresh on Twitter tweeted this back in January. And so it was like using the NHL Edge data, here are the forwards who have the most frequent-- who have most frequently exceeded 20 miles per hour in last season. Number one was Nathan McKinnon, number two was Ryan McLeod. And then who cares because we're talking about Ryan McLeod. But he-- >> So not at 20 point-- >> Yeah, so not great numbers right point wise, but we want him to be like a third line center, which is he's basically taking-- what's his name spot that we sent to Colorado that couldn't do a pull-up. Middle still stat. And by the way, if you haven't looked up Middle stat at the combine, trying to do a pull-up-- >> He did zero pull-ups. There's a lot of memes going around of him trying to do the pull-up and they put a Stanley cup in his arms instead. >> He's just screaming. >> So I was sad to lose him too because I like him, but-- so basically what we did was we swapped out a bunch of like really slow old people because you got rid of gurgensins, got rid of Akposo, and a bunch of other ding-dongs. So now we have new ding-dongs, but they're incredibly fast. That's the whole new thing we're going to-- >> I think that's not a bad idea to be honest. >> Yeah. I pulled up this article on the Athletic by Matthew Fairburns from July the 4th writing on a holiday. So I think I guess it was before the McLeod trade because that isn't considered here. And he's just doing like the projected line-ups, which his top six was the exact same as yours, Coa. Pretty interesting. And then his third line was Zach Benson, Peyton Krebs, and Jordan Greenway. I imagine it's Ryan McLeod on that spot now. >> Yeah. And then you bump down, fourth line, you no longer have to have Sam Lafferty as your center, which is good because he is-- it says center, like on his hockey card, but he played how many games that center for the Canucks last year, like at the very beginning of the year when Souter was hurt and they didn't have him on in that spot yet. He is certainly a winger that I guess can do center in a pinch. And then back Malenstein and Obe Kubel somewhere making up that fourth line, which is a pretty good fourth line to me. >> You're right. I don't hate it. But the thing is we had scoring touch like not this season, but the season before. I mean, the drop-off has been insane with the offense last year. >> Cousin's two years ago was really, really good and then just fell off a cliff last year, right? >> Yeah, so Cousin's at 68 points, he had 47 this year. He even had 94 points and then he went down to 56 this year. Darlene had-- >> Really happy I traded Kuchra for him in the second week of the season. Anyways, continue. >> Darlene had 73 points. He had 59 last year. Tuck had 79 points year before. He had 59 this year. Like our entire offense across the board just fucking all shit the bed simultaneously. >> Yeah. >> Tuck said that it shouldn't-- >> Tuck said that it shouldn't-- >> It should be hand or wrist, right? >> Yeah. >> It's just been a get-- I know where Canucks fans, you're a savers fan. So like, it is like the worst thing is always going to happen, but like, they shouldn't have that bad-- you know what I mean? They should bounce back somewhat this year, right? >> Well, I-- >> Yeah, God bless you. God bless you. >> God bless you. >> Yeah, yes. They should have an enormous comeback. The problem is it was like also our power play completely disappeared. I think we had the 28th or 29th ranked power play in the league last year and it was just absolutely pathetic. >> And we lost it. >> This doesn't make sense when you look at the players they have. They should have a decent power play, you'd think. Like, it just-- >> Well, you couldn't-- >> Absolutely couldn't score. >> Yeah. >> So we did get rid of-- they did swap out some of the coaches too. They got rid of Matt-- well, he didn't get rid of Matt Ellis, but they took Matt Ellis off of-- if you remember Matt Ellis. >> I remember him as a player, yeah. >> Yeah, he played for the savers. He's now he's bald. But basically looks the same. And he ran the power play last year and sucked big time. And they didn't do anything about it all year long. They didn't even like really switch up the lineup that much. It was really annoying. But so then now he doesn't do that anymore and they brought up Seth Apert who was the coach of the Amherst and he's now-- they've done multiple articles explaining how he is specifically going to be the forwards power play coach. So hopefully that works out because honestly, we would have been a lot closer to making the playoffs if we would have had any sort of a power play at all because we lost a ton of fucking one goal games or whatever where we had no power play support at all. >> As I recall as well, there was a lot-- you didn't have a lot of overtime luck or success. >> Yeah. >> Like I'm pretty sure regulation wins, you were even had more than Philadelphia, but just wasn't able to get those greasy ones, right, which is huge when you're a playoff bubble team. >> Absolutely. So this is the thing, you're trying to get harder to play against. And we bring in all these-- we bring in all these people. So hopefully I guess the idea here is that if you bring in enough of a supporting cast to do all this other stuff, actually Forecheck, actually Skate, actually bring some more structure and stability to the team than the other players don't have to do as much and they have more freedom to do whatever. Oh, also Jeff Skinner obviously bought him out. That's a big deal. >> Right. Yeah. >> I mean, what do you think about that? >> That's fine. I mean, what are you going to do? Also, he just doesn't play defense. I mean, I know-- >> He's like one of the worst defensive player in the league, basically. If you look at his player card, it's like a lot of like good numbers and then like just a fat zero for defensive play. >> Yeah. >> Like it's crazy. >> Does he have the smile of a child? Absolutely. I would never argue against that. He's an absolute joy to watch a play. Also, they did a thing with the Sabres the last couple of years where they get to pick all their own individual goal songs, so when anybody scores, it's a different song every time. >> Right. >> And I think the last two years he had, like I want to dance with somebody and party in the USA. >> Okay. >> And like-- >> That's fun. >> Everybody loved them. The women all loved them. He was just a crowd favorite with everything I'm hearing is that Lindy coming in, basically Lindy was like, this guy doesn't fucking, this guy doesn't skate back. He doesn't play defense. He doesn't do fucking shit. So get him out of here. We were also going to have to pay him like $9 million a year or something crazy. >> Yeah. >> I think it is buy out schedule, and it's 1.4 this year, then 4.4, and then in 26, 27, it's like $6.5 million, and then it's 2.4 for like a few words, it doesn't hit 9 ever, but there is a year where you're paying him $6.5 million to not play, like two years down the road, which is-- >> Look at who we're still paying. I think we're still paying-- who the fuck is it? We bought out-- is it Airhof we're still paying? >> No way. >> I've finished, because I'm on Puckpedia now, because Cat Forever officially died yesterday, and it only has Jeff Skinner as a buyout retained player here currently. >> It was at Airhof in pretty sure Airhof was the only last year. >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. >> I don't think we're still paying Lano. I don't know. >> No. >> I thought it was Airhof. I could swear he was still paying him, but well, someone in the chat looked that up. >> So, yeah, this article that I brought up, I wanted to highlight this as well. I found it pretty funny. Talking about Buffalo's new fourth line, last season, Gergensen's Krebs and Acoposo combined for 204 hits, Malenstein, Lafferty, and Obkubel combined for 542. >> Holy shit. >> So that's great. >> So you're definitely going to throw the body more, like Lafferty-- >> Lafferty was fine, and then by the end, he just kind of ran out of steam at the end of the year, I feel like. >> He had his moments, you know? >> There's one game, I also remember this for fantasy hockey reasons, because my opponent picked him up against Anaheim near the end of the year. Fucking guy had like nine hits, which I don't see him hitting that much, but he was, yeah, he was fine. It's just you see how fast he is, and you see how he could be like an absolute fucking menace to play against, and he's just a mild menace, you know? >> I do really have like a huge impact, but like he's not not annoying to play against. >> He's a fun player. >> He's fun. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it feels like him. >> Thirteen goals, I don't know if I'd count on that again, but every now and then you'd have like a quick release from him. He had that one goal that was set up by Pod Colson, where he like, I forget who was against, but he deeked out like two defense minutes and put it in back. >> He had a couple of nice goals last year, surprisingly. And a couple like he was really good at like going, driving to the net. >> I think in game two, like of the regular season against Edmonton in Edmonton, after we had smoked them in game one, he scored that really nice goal driving to the net at the end of the first period. >> Yeah. >> And just like took the air out of the building. >> And the third game against Edmonton as well, he had that wrist shot that just like went in. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Listen, I am so excited to get rid of Okposo and Gergensen's. Do you have any idea how long Gergensen's played for the Sabres? I mean, it was a fucking long time. >> He's been there forever. >> Yeah. >> He's just been there forever. >> I remember he was like a hot prospect and now he's like an old man. >> He's very old. He did make the All-Star team once because a bunch of people in Latvia all decided to like spam the All-Star website and they just went with it. So he is pretty funny. >> One time All-Star Zemgus Gergensen's also great rap song written by two Latvian rappers if you can find it where the course is like Zemgus Gorgensen's. >> [LAUGH] >> It's very cool. They can play that. He got signed. He was up in, where was it? Was it Tamper or something? I don't know where he went. But thank God he's gone because enough he was so fucking slow Jesus Christ forever we had to watch this asshole. And then also, so also defense doesn't look terrible. That's why I think we also need like one other legitimate defense. Byrum, great pickup. I think that was enormous. >> That you could swing Byrum for middle stat, which is kind of rad. >> Defense should be like legitimately good. >> Right. >> So you think it's got to be Byrum and Dali. >> So you think it's got to be Byrum and Dali. >> You think it's got to be Byrum and Dali. >> Like if powers takes the next step. >> Well, yeah. Okay. But you have to get probably Yoki Haru out of there if you want that to happen. >> Right. >> Right. >> Is it Samuel Sin's like pretty good too? >> Sammy Sin's good, but he's kind of hurt, little inconsistent, but I like him a lot. He's probably going to be the, like, so as it stands right now you have Born Byrum and Daliene probably on the top pair, then Power, Yoki Haru, Samuel Sin and Connor Clifton, which sucks. >> Right. >> Big time. I mean, I don't like Clifton. I think he, you know. >> You guys signed him last year, right? >> Last year. >> Yeah. Kind of like sucked. >> I thought it was a one year deal. But we also have Ryan Johnson coming up who's supposed to be, he was good in the limited time that he got here, but he's still pretty young. >> Right. >> And are you guys familiar with Riley Stillman? >> Oh, yes. >> We have Riley Stillman. >> Yeah. He's in Rochester right now, so he could come up at any time. So watch out. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> He's still kicking around, huh? >> I guess so. I don't know. He came here last year and then tried to, like, set the tone and got in a fight and immediately just got fucked up so bad that he got punched, like, once, and then he was out of the lineup for, like, two weeks. The God bless him. He tried. And then we'll say, oh, and we also, let's see, well, I have my list of people we picked up here. I'm looking at this. Dennis Gilbert, also, he's probably going to play in Rochester, but he's a Buffalo native, so that's fun. He's a defenseman. James Rimer. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. >> Weird, right? >> Do you think he even makes the team? >> I don't know. I think he might be the number one goalie in Rochester next year because you have UPL who, by all accounts, had a great year. I mean, he was dope in 2024, he had a 2.57 goals against and a 910 save percentage. And I think a lot of that 910 save percentage came after New Year's Eve, right? >> It was exactly right. >> Yes, exactly. New Year's Eve. She hit the bed early and then we're like, are we really going to have to, like, let Devin Levi take the reins here already? And then he just went fucking bananas for, like, two months or something. He was, like, terrific. >> Yeah. >> That's a nice surprise, right? >> But then I'll look into score. >> Do people think he was going to be that good? Because Levi was the guy that everyone was excited for, right? >> No, everybody is absolutely rock-hard about Levi still. So it's really, it's kind of a weird dynamic now because, obviously, there's a lot of people say you got to put, leave Levi down there, at least give him, like, another full season of Rochester, maybe, because he's doing phenomenal in Rochester too, like, he's so, you know, do you want to, like, fuck up what you have with Levi, or with UPL right now, by bringing Levi up, or even just bringing him up and just leaving him sit all the time behind UPL. So I'm thinking maybe it's going to be a situation where hopefully, Ryan was good enough where he could back UPL up, and if Levi's way good enough, then you put him in, well, I guess it depends on how UPL does. But they also asked Lindy in his first press conference, like, "Who's your goalie?" And he goes, "It's UPL." Like, immediately. >> Okay. >> So... >> UPL is a great nickname too, because he does have a fucking long-ass name. >> Yeah. >> "Uco Pecalucanin." >> Yeah, great name. >> Yeah. >> UPL is a great nickname. So, honestly, I think the goal-tending is like, secretly could be one of our best spots that we're in, because if Levi, I mean, I think Levi is really good. He's still is young, but... >> Yeah. >> He could easily be, you know, if he takes the next step or whatever, if there's something happens, injury or something like that, he could be... >> I mean, if you guys get good goal-tending and you get decent defense, which you should, I think, just with the top three guys you have on your defense, at least, are, like, legitimately young and, like, good and talented. >> Yeah. >> I mean... I don't know. I, like, I guess the issue is, like, who is in your division, right? >> It's... >> Well, this is something I wanted to bring up. >> Yeah. >> Googling. >> Yeah. >> The... >> Yeah. >> The... >> No, the... >> The... >> The athletic... >> Oh, who improved the most? >> Oh, who improved the most? >> 32 teams on who improved the most, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Number one was the Blackhawks. This is just based on net rating added, so where they finished last year and where they are at now. For the record, the Canucks are plus one. They got worse offensively, but they got quite a bit better defensively. So ranked out as plus one, which, right on, works for me. I think it's cool that the Canucks didn't get worse when they added $10 million in salary to just retaining players in a heroic peterson and Dakota Joshua. Anyways, Buffalo's pretty high on the list here. They're at nine. >> Yeah. >> Mm-hmm. >> Their net rated adding was plus 12. The unfortunate thing, though, is eight is the Toronto Maple Leafs, and ten is the Ottawa Senators. >> Right. >> So it's like two other divisional teams. >> But Florida and Boston are right at the bottom for who got worse. >> Yes. And, actually, I think Winnipeg's at the very bottom, minus 36, because it didn't do anything if you... >> No, it was. They didn't sign anyone. >> No, they lost Tyler Tafoli. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They lost Tafoli, Monahan, Dylan, Nate Schmidt, and Laurent Poiswa. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Broiswa. >> And they brought an ad hack. >> And they brought an ad hack in it. >> Yeah. >> This fucking it. >> That sucks, man. >> I mean, Florida being at the bottom is like, they're still obviously insanely good. And Boston, I think, will still be good, because it's fucking Boston, and they're always good, unfortunately. >> Just. >> I don't know. >> Despicable city. Bad people. >> I mean, you know this, of course. Koi, you know this, like all of Vancouver is like, Buffalo is like our blood brother when it comes to hockey. >> Yeah, sure. Thank you. >> We are pulling for you guys. So, and look, if it can happen to us, because I honestly had given up hope on this team ever turning things around, then they fired Benning, and it didn't get better immediately. But the turnaround can happen all of a sudden, like no one, Aaron and I did not expect last year to happen at all. >> So, hiring Lindy Ruff feels like on that note, is if when they fired Benning and Green, they just hired Elaine Vignille again. >> Yeah, yeah, exactly. Or she probably would have been cool with, given the, yeah, exactly. Like it's bringing back like an old favorite, right? >> I don't think they wanted to fire Lindy in the first place either, but it had been so long and like, you know, he hadn't really won anything, but we had some really great teams under him and went to the finals and did all sorts of shit. And then like, we were so mad when we let him go, like, we can't get to the, we can't win the finals. And then we haven't won in ever. And now we're just like, just come on back. We were wrong. >> Come on. >> That was, we set the bar a little too high, but also the, but all the fucking the menagerie of losers that we've had that come in here make Lindy look like such a fucking pro at this point, like, even though he's like way older, I mean, I think he still got it like mentally and stuff, but like Jesus Christ, Ralph Kruger, what a absolute nightmare scenario that we had to set through Phil Housley. Some of the coaches that we've had in here were just. >> Yeah. >> Lindy Ruff just being like a baseline NHL level coach. >> All you need. >> Huge improvement. >> Yeah. >> All you need. And that's what I'm saying is I think the NHL also is like less dependent on coaching than a lot of other sports probably. I think like, you know, obviously the, how you set it up and the lines and all that shit obviously makes a big difference, but like in game, I think maybe his vibes are more important, which is cool. He's like a crusty old man. He's like, you know, by all accounts, like a tough kind of guy. Well, the number one thing too, the kids said on the team, like an everybody on our team. Darlene is our oldest, the longest tenured saber at this point. >> Wow. >> That is insane. That's crazy. Because when did he get picked in 20? >> The Quinn Hughes draft. >> Yeah. It was 2018. >> Mm-hmm. >> Jesus Christ. >> We still are like, I think the youngest team in the league at this point. And that's the thing is we've had all these kids that are supposed to be coming up forever, but none of them ever seem to really come up and really pan out. And then for the last four or five years, all we do after were people that were like five, eight, a hundred and twenty pounds. >> Yeah. >> Like everybody. >> Yeah. >> And so why like the ride in the cloud trade, man? >> That's what we're doing. >> That's what we're trying to correct that now. Like in the, in the ride in the cloud trade, we gave up Matt Savoy, who is ostensibly supposed to be like a really, really good forward, right? >> Yeah. >> So like, >> Yeah. >> But they just don't value small wingers, right, is the thing. And like I think, I forget if it was Pronman or Scott Wheeler, but someone at the athletic was like, yeah, like I think Savoy's being shopped around and no one really wants to pay that much for him. >> I think I've been saying getting them is going to be really cool for them. >> I think it's going to be, the thing with that is like, I'm kind of happy they made the trade because it makes them worse now, and the only thing that sucks is that it makes them better in the future, potentially. But I think like for this year, I don't think he's making their team this year. But like, look at the other people that are playing on the Buffalo wings, right? Like is he going to, like JJ Paterka, not big? >> No. >> So I can, Zach Benson, not big. >> And Benson played an entire season last year. He came up immediately and he was our seventh leading scorer, me at 30 points, but I mean he only played, I don't even know how many games he was in, 71. But you can only have so many players that are like the same type. >> And even like Jack Quinn, right? I know he's a bit taller, but he's also not like a big body guy that plays the same similar style, right? >> I mean, even the dudes we have in Rochester that are supposedly getting ready to take the next step. You have Lucas Rusek, Noah Osland, Isaac Rosean, like Yuri Koolich. All these guys are basically, they're not big, strong like guys like that. They're all kind of doing the same thing. So I think that's where they realize like, oh shit, we fucked up. We have 18 of the same guy. And now they're like, now Lindy comes in and they're like, okay, so what are the chances of Savoy actually making the team this year? Not that good. And what are you going to do with him for the next two years even? I don't know. Because if he does make the team, he's like on the third line, which you don't want someone right. But it's that small playing on like the third line right, like that, right? >> Sure. >> So you might, and that's the thing. Everyone's like, well, you got to turn these fucking, now you got to turn these prospects into something that we can use now because you got to make them move now. We got to make the playoffs this year. It's just too fucking depressing. >> So if they don't make the situation. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Sorry. No, I just, look at the teams that made it last year, right? And there was two obviously shit teams that made the playoffs that at the time were like they're, anyone could have gotten in. And that's Islanders and Washington, right? And especially Washington with their minus 47 gold differential. But Washington seems like they improved this offseason, right? Like they, they picked up Matt Roy for defense, made him a lot better. I think they got better with a peer loop to watch trade. Even though it's like a pretty onerous contract to take on, but they don't care. They're just playing for a veteran, right? They're just trying to milk the last of that, that cow. >> Sure. >> They're trying to milk the last of that cock while it's still wrecked folks. >> Yeah. >> Trying to milk that prostate. >> Other astute moves too that have like, or, well, Magi Pawney trade, like that makes them immediately better. So I don't think they're a guaranteed playoff team by any means, but they do feel slightly better than last year. I feel like the Islanders improved a little bit as well by adding to Claire. And you would think that Sarokans probably going to bounce back. >> Yeah. But Islanders also feel like a team that could just fall off a cliff too. >> Absolutely. >> Totally. >> So it's very clear. >> Carolina began with Carolina did seem to get substantially worse. I think that because like every year there's a team that falls out there like how the fuck did that happen? And I think just by losing like Brady Shea, Joe Pesci, Joe Pesci. >> Joe Pesci, yeah. >> That's my Pesci. >> I think I'm a Joe Pesci for a while. >> Man, I'm losing it. It was like 100 degrees Fahrenheit here today or the working outside. I just want to die. But the fucking other guy, the one that we really wanted to get, Jake Genssel, like those are significant subtractions and they like made some smart moves around the edges. But it doesn't really replace that. So I could see such a really key injury or two, maybe them slipping out. But you also have Ottawa who's knocking on the door and you expect them to be a little bit better. >> With Omar, they should be better. But I do think. >> With Omar Gray. >> I don't know. >> Listen, we had Omar for a very long time and we didn't win shit. >> Yeah. >> That's true. So it's just it feels like other than you have of course New Jersey, right? Like they almost seem like an automatic playoff pick with the moves that they made picking up Joe Pesci. >> Yeah. >> Perfect. By the way. >> Perfect. >> Perfect for him to go. >> Yeah. Definitely. So like I kind of think that New Jersey makes it almost no matter what if they stay healthy. So there's like one more position where someone has to drop out. >> Yeah. If they're healthy and had goal-telling last year, they would have made the playoffs like no doubt, right? >> No, you have to think too, at least from the way I'm looking at it. If you get these guys on the third and fourth line to actually do what they're supposed to do on the third and fourth line, maybe the whole team starts playing like a team more again because nobody gave a fuck last year. Like they were just playing like total zombies. If you get any of these people, and especially with Lindy in it, if you get these people to buy in and actually start playing for each other and give a fuck a little bit, I mean that's got to be worth enough points. Let's get you into a first round sweep against someone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, I guess we saw that this year. >> We saw that this year, right? >> We saw that with the Canucks this year with like adding good like glue guys, a lot of the lineup addition that like changed the composition of how the team played as a whole that allowed like the Canucks star players to be star players and carry the team, right? So I think there is some evidence for that being like a thing that can happen, even though like two years ago, I would have said you were fucking insane if you thought this team was going to make the playoffs win around in the playoffs because they had better structure and really incredible. I did pick you guys in all of my brackets to win the Stanley Cup just because I thought just for good luck, I tried. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I was rooting for Vancouver because they're very likable. >> Thank you. >> I mean, they are I feel like this year they're not going to be likable because they have expectations and also whenever the team is good, like our fans are such dickheads. And I can say that as a Canucks fan, our fans are like total assholes, they're right. When they're bad, like no one's really talking shit because like, why would you? But when they're good, like our fans are dicks. So I think we're going to see people turn around a little bit on the Canucks this year, but I will say what was great, going back to the playoffs, what was great about that is people fucking hate the Oilers now and they hate Euler's fans. And I'm so glad people are coming around to this and realizing what me and Aaron have known for years. And it's so -- >> Was there a big shift that way? >> Oh, there was in the playoffs for sure. There definitely was. I mean, at least online on Twitter. But man, it was so satisfying. I forget if I even -- did I -- I sent you the clip of the Euler's fan crying in Vancouver, right? They were like interviewing people after game sometime. >> Oh, yeah, yeah. They were like, weren't they at a Boston pizza? >> They were at like a Boston pizza and they were interviewing all these Euler's fans. And first of all, not to judge someone's fandom, but they -- the one -- they were interviewing people who were like, ah, you know, it sucks, but like, they'll get them again next year. And it's like, you -- you're not a fucking fan, you just lost Game 7 on the Stanley Cup final. Are you kidding me? And then they interview -- there's a couple and they're talking to the woman. And she's like, yeah, you know, it was rough and everything. But, you know, I think there's still a good team. And like, the guy next to her is like almost crying. And he's like waving the camera and he's like, get the fuck out of here. Like, fuck off. And it's like, as funny as it was to see, it's also kind of like, okay, that -- that guy's a fan. >> Mm-hmm. Yeah. >> Like the -- the one person that they interviewed, she -- she was like, they counted us out in -- >> Oh, yeah. >> -- like the first round and they counted us out when we went down against Dallas and they counted us out here. So I appreciate how they fought back. And it was funny because like, fucking nobody in the goddamn world counted them out against L.A. Not fucking the ones, right? They were in control of that entire series. And then I get -- so that means she must have thought that they were counted out against Vancouver, which -- >> Even when they were down -- >> No, they weren't. I don't think they were. Like, it was never really -- they were always the favorite. It's so anyway. It's just so funny. >> Also, this is kind of an annoying trope that I think has emerged in the last couple years with all sports that every team has to act like they're -- like everybody hates us, man. We're the underdog, man. >> Yeah. >> The Chiefs tried to do that. Last year. I remember after, like, during a bills game, like, no one thinks we can win, man. Like, you just want two Super Bowls, man. >> No -- nobody thinks you're the fucking underdog. Like, don't do that. >> Did you hear about the Boston pizza ad that we had to suffer through? >> Also, yeah. I can't see the other thing. And I have -- I have a very -- I have a very close relationship with Canada. I think Buffalo Indians are probably more Canadian than almost anyone in the United States. >> I think you guys are more Canadian than Vancouver, people from Vancouver, I would say. >> It's possible. >> Yeah. >> And I know about Boston pizza. We go to Toronto all the time. But like, Boston has nothing to do with pizza. There is no Boston-style pizza. I don't know. I know that it's a big chain in Canada, and I've been to Boston pizza, and it's whatever. Toronto pizza fucking eats shit, but -- but I don't know. Why is this a big thing? >> Everybody loves Boston pizza. It's just -- >> They got named in a stupid way, as I recall. >> The guy, it was a Greek immigrant. Yeah, he wanted it to sound like it was like not exotic, but like from like a big city or something. And I feel like it was something like, "Oh, well, New York pizza was already taken," and like all these other big cities were taken, so he's like, "I guess we'll do Boston." I think he was also -- he was -- maybe he was also a Bruins fan or something, too. That might have been part of it. I could be making that up. But it was something like that. It was just a guy being like, "Well, Boston's a big city. Let's go with that." >> Do people believe that it's a style of pizzas, or is it like, "I don't even know." Because Detroit pizzas. >> I did, no. When I was a kid, I did. Because I was like, "Why would they call it Boston pizza otherwise?" But it's just like a -- I mean, the pizza's not even necessarily like the focal point. The focal point when I was growing up was the fucking giant pitchers of beer that I think they legally are no longer allowed to sell. But -- >> Oh, you can't have pitchers of beer in Canada anymore? >> Well, these were like -- >> They're really big. These were like party pitchers, and I think it's maybe they're still allowed. I think what it was is that you weren't allowed to sell them to like one person, which is what was happening. It was basically like three pitchers in one, essentially. >> Sure. So you're just getting like 180 ounces of beer, but it's one beer for you. That's rad. >> Yeah, basically. Yeah. >> I like that. >> Beer bongs are still available here in the United States. I don't know if you have those there, those giant. They look like a huge -- >> We always used to -- in college, we would have to like make them ourselves. >> Not like the beer -- I don't know what to call it, but do you ever see those things you have in restaurants now? They're like a big tall-ass thing. >> Oh, it's like a tower. >> Yes. >> It's like a glass tower. >> Oh, yeah. >> And you can -- yeah, we've seen those. I think we have those here. >> Yeah. That's how you know you're in a nice restaurant. >> Yeah. The pint had like the table kegs. >> Yes. >> Ooh. >> Yeah. Worsches -- I think -- is it like 70-odd ounces of beer? >> I think it's something like that. Yeah. >> Does it bring out to your table and it's got a little nozzle on it so you can just kind of pour -- which is nice, right, because you have a lot of beer there and it just gets warm. >> Mm-hmm. Yeah. >> But you get -- that's like -- it's either that or you have to like wait for someone to bring you another beer. So I also meant -- >> Missed to say. >> I also meant when we were doing the savers rundown, I was just looking at the people we got. I -- for some reason, I watch hockey all the time. I have zero opinion on Jason Zucker. I don't even know what to think about him. >> He's just a guy. >> Yeah, he's such a guy. >> Like, you guys sent him for one year? Which I think tells me that if you're not in a playoff spot, they're just going to flip him at the deadline for like a third or fourth, which is like that's fine. But he's a guy that like the Canucks have been rumored to be going after for a long time, whether it was by trade or as a free agent. And he was on Nashville in the first round, we played against him and he was like decent, I feel like. >> He was pretty good. >> He's like that every way. >> That's my assessment. He's like, "That's pretty good. I'm on my team for the right price." If the Canucks signed him for $5 million, I'd probably be pissed, given where like the Canucks are cap-wise. But Buffalo's got all the room in the world, right? >> Yeah, I think it makes sense for you guys, because I mean we just trade him. >> Again, we have $15 million as of right now in cap space. Bear in mind, next year you have to -- you have to re-sign Quinn, Paterka, Levi, and Byrom. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> That's a lot. >> That makes sense why it's one year then. They want to sign UPL again, and they're talking that he could get something in the neighborhood of like five and change or more for UPL, which is like seems for one good year. >> Yeah, he's an RFA with Arbrights. So yeah, he can kind of control, like they want a two or three-year deal maybe with him or something they were saying. But then they also don't know how Levi's going to pan out. If Levi ends up being way better, do you still want to be paying UPL $5.7 million for your back up? >> I guess you see how the season goes in, eh? Like, I don't know, there's a lot going on, but I would say my takeaway for the whole thing is that I'm really happy because it seems like at least like three or four of the guys we picked up to be the bottom six guys are like really good penalty killers. They're incredibly fast. >> That's what the Canucks did. >> Who are good defensively, good penalty killers and it like changed the fucking mindset of the entire team. >> Face offs. They're way better on face offs. If you look at each one of these guys, like our face off percentage was fucking anemic last year, just bad. Nobody could win face offs. So at least we have guys that can win face offs here ostensibly. We'll see. >> Yeah. >> Well, we're pulling for you guys for sure. >> That was something watching the playoffs that made me laugh so much is that they'd show the like face off probability. >> I love that. >> Before face offs. We're taking it. It's like 55% slayer. Oh, this face offs the fucking coin flip, like every goddamn face off of the world. >> Yeah. >> It's a quantum computer. >> Like even if it's like even if it's 65%, it's like, okay, it's slightly. >> It's still a coin of a century like who fucking cares. Get off the screen. >> I want to stand off and that was right. >> It was right. >> Yeah, probably by the time. >> It's some small Canucks news today, they released the numbers that our pickups are going to play where when they play. >> Sure would not 44, I like that. >> That's the biggest one that pops. We're going to love them at number 44. >> Yeah. >> DeBrusque 74. >> Mm. >> That's interesting. >> Yeah. >> I mean, if we're talking numbers, Will Smith on the Sharks being number two. I'd fuck. I love that. >> There was no, he's cool. I think they said either he's the only or like the second one ever that's a full-time forward ever. >> A full-time forward. >> Not like a converted, because there's a few converted, converted defense men who did but yeah, he's the second I think full-time forward ever. So I don't know. I love that. >> Very cool number two. >> I would love to see a forward wearing number one. That would be sick. >> Listen, the '70s are a weird thing because the Sabres had a bunch of '70s that came up because they were just suckers and they just gave him like shitty numbers and one of them was Thompson. >> Yeah. >> And he's '71 and he's like our big dude. >> Yeah. >> So that's a very strange number. >> I think he's the new hotness, right? >> Having a dumb, tight number. >> I do. >> He's a kid. >> Like the higher numbers. Yeah. >> I think it's '70 something as well, right? He's like '70. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think he picks four. >> Yeah, he's '71, which is also Malcolm's number forever. That's worth. >> Yeah. >> Whereas Thompson's 72. >> I don't like that. >> No, Thompson's 72. Guys, edit that out. >> It's the same thing. That's what I meant. >> The Turker's 77, too, which was also a peer turgion, which was very close to my heart as a child. >> Before he wrapped things up, I do. So if Buffalo shits the bed this year, what changes do you think will happen and what changes do you want to happen? >> I just want, I think it'll never happen either, but I think people really want Pagul to sell the team. I think that's an overall arching vibe. >> It's so unlikely for the owner to ever move on, though, right? It was like with Aqualini, it was the same thing over here, right? >> And franchise value's gone up so much. >> Dude, he could sell it right now for, he could just make a billion dollars on top of what he already picked. If you attract everything in, he'll still make a billion dollars selling it. And he owns the fucking bills, and he's one of the richest people in the world. He's going to be fine. I don't understand. I mean, it feels at this point like he's just kind of getting older and crazier and like dumber. >> Yeah. >> And they just kind of have to like, he sells a flip phone, he's like an eccentric weirdo. >> Oh, I hate that. >> He's like, I don't know. >> He's like, I hate the owner of the raiders. >> I don't know how to email. I'm worth 58 billion dollars. >> I hate that shit. >> He's just kind of an annoying old fucking, you know, just stinks, piece of shit, whatever. Because he's been nickel and diming it for fucking 10 years now, trying to act like he gives a shit and then he cries and, you know, meetings, that sucks. Also, Adams is viewed as basically being like his lap dog. He was like a cheap hire that basically just does whatever Terry tells them, at least that's what it feels like. So I would say probably hopefully he sells or you get fucking rid of Adams. If we really shit the bed now, I mean, but then again, I don't know. How long does it take to really build something? He's only been the general manager for a couple of years at this point. I don't know. But give Lindy at least a couple of years, I think, to put something together. I mean, we're already suffering so much. >> Yeah. >> How much could more so? What could a little more suffering really do? >> That's the thing, like how much worse could it really get? >> It feels being not even being like shitty shitty because we're never like real shitty. We're always just missing the playoffs by like 10 points, one point the other year. Like we're kind of knocking on the door. It's like if you won 10 more games during the season, you'd be fine or whatever. We're always kind of like that. Like it's fun. You want to root for them. And then they just halfway through the season just go totally like fucking limp dick mode. And then you just have to like watch a zombie team for like half the season just being like just I'm up serious. I'm like, do I? I have a joke with my wife where I come home every day and then it was a saber's game. I go, good news honey. And she goes, oh no, saber's game every time. And then I just trod downstairs really slow and go, fuck, I just turn the TV on and just fuck this. It gets better. It gets better. Thank you. It does get better. I want hopes because like with where the sabers are at now, if they miss the playoffs again, you probably don't want to nuke it from orbit or from scratch because like what's even the problem. There's been so much fucking pain, right? Like you need to make this work, but you don't even really know what the problem is. Like you work it and go like on paper, this looks pretty good. And that's what it feels like every year. And then you're like, well, what went wrong? I don't know. Interesting. Yeah, I think you should just trade your fucking first round pick for a difference maker that can't leave somehow. Right? Well, that's what we thought we could do. And then he goes in there and he's like, no, I made a trade. Don't worry. I move down two spots and they're like, oh, it's always just like, no, we need something now. And now we get his fucking Beck Malenstein. Yeah. Okay. I mean, my work out. You never know. My work out. There's a lot of pitch marner next off season. He can stay close to Toronto. I think Beck is a really cool first name. It's a nice first name, but also two turntables and a microphone. Thank you. There's going to be a lot of those jokes. That should be his goal song, but also I do. I would really love to see just a nice, actually good top six forward and like another legitimate NHL defenseman. If you could do those two things, I would be perfectly happy, but I don't think they're going to do anything else. Justin Schultz, let's make it happen. That'd be cool. I'm cool. Yeah, why not? Very cool with that. Yeah. We've got so many prospects. We can trade so much shit. We're not going to use any of these guys for the next three years. Let's go. Yeah. You might as well. Go all in. Thank you. Go Canucks go. Go Saver's go. Koa. Thanks for coming on again, brother. Thank you. No. Thank you. Oh, Koa Braw on Twitter. Thank you. Oh, it's the everything app. I do everything on there. Mm-hmm. Me too. Even my banking. Bye, everybody. Bye, everyone. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. And now we're going to get to the end of the day. 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