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Knights of the Night
263 DFRPG Future London is Here and Now
[Music] Hello, and welcome to Night's Midnight Actual Play podcast. This Dresden File Adventures Passengers was written and run by your team time. And now, please enjoy episode 263, the title. Future London is here and now, actual play begins 10 minutes, 53 seconds. [Music] So, from our KFCF podcast.com page, which I've watched, I'm a new Monera student set. I've been watching the Shanera Chronicles, it's like live action and a new near game. I don't remember those books taking place in a dystopian world. Shanera? Yeah, I've never read them. So, that kind of caught me by a surprise and the acting, it's okay. But, anyways, also under D&D 5th edition, Zero Age, posted. So, I'm listening to these and I have some likes and dislikes, some good creativity and theme with the game so far. And the effects are kind of nice, I guess. I just don't see why it has to be non-actual play at the beginning so often. Well, Zero Age, that's called feedback, which you're listening to right now. Or not. But, in that case, you won't hear this, but we had many a discussion about moving it to the end or keeping it in the front and we're not going to have the discussion again. So that's why at the beginning, we say, where you should skip to if you don't want to hear this. And in some cases, I'll duplicate this and annoy the hell out of everybody like I did last week. But, I think so. Do you have to re-upload it? Yeah. Well, that shot twice in everyone's. I don't think so. It didn't show twice in mine, so we know we can fix things, so that's good to know. Over on Facebook, episode 262, the squirrels didn't know. Chris End posted and said, "Scott, quick question. How do I search for your map on cartographer guilt? Do you have a user name or a searchable name to find? I'm super curious to take a look." Well, Chris, you just shit out of luck. It's not here right now, and no one even knows that answer to that question. I believe the islands are called the spiral archipelago, if you Google's that maybe. After listening to episode 262, the squirrels didn't know. I posted and said some of a double feedback post, and I already said, "I was hoping my puns would make it in the second time around." My response was, "Never." Nine puns never make it in, so his can either. That's right. I already said, I can inherit now on episode X, X, X, R, E, Rode. It was a long, spaced out silence. Redacted? I protected. Theron Merk Peeperson said I was wondering whether the second feedback would come without editing. Perhaps some of... Oh, he's paused. Oh, he's paused. No, and never. No. You never want to hear the unedited version for a number of reasons. The main reason is we have personal information in there that has to be taken out, and it's not something you want to hit the general public. Adam M. boasted and said, "You know, I was reading some dress and files, and I think the part about soulfire versus hellfire is covered in changes and ghost stories," which I think you've heard both of those. I mean, that's how it works. It's all purely speculative how it works, but I think Bob or perhaps Knights of the Cross go into a discussion of the taints of hellfire places on the soul, and the acceptance of that gift, making the coin's angel power over the coin carrier a bit hard to overcome. Either way, what Butcher does in Chicago and what KOTN does in Cleveland are two different instances, and there's nothing that says a whole understanding is consistent. Hell, Justin gets his abilities, but no wizard or warden or practitioner is 100% the same. Much less the idea of the Knights of the Cross ability versus the Knights of the Black and Denarian ability versus the Black staff wizards versus the fake court. These are things that Harry gets the gist of, but doesn't fully comprehend. Glad you're all back, spoilers. Black court businessmen, soul shattering warden, demon power piggyback, banker, frustrated finder, and all the rest. Bring on the flaws of magic, the demons, the squirrel talkers, the governmental bureaucracy, the shades of Ryan fucking Nelson, if it's available. Cleven's got a few problems, and the warden can't leave, so bring it on. I'm going to get my popcorn. I was wondering if Ryan's freaking Nelson is also part of this shield now, Nick. We had a deal with him again. Battle contest forever. God, I'd be a dick GM if I did that. Sometimes in the Scott would do. There in Merck T posted and said as for episode 261 in London's man cave, I got a vision of a stylish room filled with sculptures, paintings, photographs, with a piece of tape. A piece of tape. London, and all of them. Just like in the show, where from as I felt. He has portraits of himself. The 16 Chapel ceiling, the creation of London, London Bonaparte, London, The Thinker, London of Primo Porta. That's right. As for episode 262. End of taste and distinction. Is Scott working on an aspect that more hated by Zelda the more London? I hope Rachel won't have hard feelings, otherwise someone might find the stairs much more dangerous and I can agree with you than the door. No, I don't have anything unlike character sheet that remotely even brings up the word of the voodoo practitioner. I'm pretty sure that Rachel did not listen to the last episode there. No, no, no. I'm pretty sure she did me either. No, you don't want one. Was it not here? No, you were not here last week, remember? It was a... I mean like something happened and I was... Zelda-less? Yeah. Which was really wonderful actually. It was a Zelda-less episode. That was... You know, I was not showing up. So wonderful. All London would love that. Nothing more than for Zelda to fade into the background. There was some feedback in which someone tried to remember the powers that Zelda had and account for all of the fake points and I believe Scott said the aspect of bitch doesn't count as any fake points on it. Oh man. I think it made me a little bit rougher than that. Yeah, probably. But um... Wow. Complete and total bitch. Scott told me a bitch. What London? What London? Scott. Zelda. Yes. Scott feels nothing but warmth. Zelda's Scott was a little creepy instead of Uncle London. Uh-huh. A little bit seeping through there. Through the cracks. For the wall. We need each other here. Absolutely. Alright. Theorem continues. As for the topic of spoilers, World of Darkness spoilers in particular, recently I attended a small con in my area and a friend was running the World of Darkness classic and you, the lower contest. It turns out a heck of a lot of things developed in the new World of Darkness, Chronicles, of Darkness. I guess that's the new name. And actually a lot of the explanations related to Eman, the Descent and the God Machine concept. So everyone dies is just a happy, simple solution compared to what really is out there. As well as whether Scott will implement some of these new meta plots into this campaign. Well I think the God Machine kind of showed up a bit for some World Darkness for a moment. It didn't show up in the 1930s when you guys had the flashback. There was some scenes where you saw through the veil and I think I want to say it might have been Grace. In the wall she saw the clockwork mechanisms in a machine like presence behind the facade. And so I certainly think that some of those may play out as the story of one. They're unfinished off with, and sure up Tom, I guess omitting that double feedback tarnishes his clean record of editing. Well I wouldn't be surprised if this comment didn't show up. The Theron, to be truthful, we don't delete comments unless A) they're a pun, Ari. And B) they're specifically malicious, attacks against players. Characters, that's oh fine, you want to criticize the GMs and how they run the game? That's all fine. But when people actually start saying things that are threatening of the actual players, that's not going to make it live. I think Theron is actually just taking fun with you. Oh I'm sure he is. But I just want to make that clear to any of the listeners. We don't delete things we don't like, just because we don't like them. Criticisms, no. I mean people want to criticize how Scott and I run the game. Fair game. Yeah. I mean we will learn something. If we, yeah, if we're going to read off the five star reviews, and we're going to read off the ones you guys are awesome, then we're also going to read off the ones where that episode was slower, the story isn't doing it for me, or whatever else. There's only one more thing that we should discuss during feedback, and this is a Kickstarter. I had someone send me an email that was Edward Little. He has, I think there will be a couple weeks left in his Kickstarter. As of the release of this episode, it is Emissary Tabletop RPG. It's a role playing game that is inspired by Doom, Tzabrowski's Meta Baron series. I'm not sure what that is, I've never heard of it, but at least the Doom caught my eye. I've asked Edward to send us a copy of it so he could take a look at it and maybe give a little more information on it, haven't gotten it from him yet, but I will pass it around once we do, because I know a number of the members enjoy Doom, and if it's a Doom inspired RPG, we might be definitely interested in it. It's by his company, Shrike Studios. There will be a link to the Kickstarter in this show note, and there's also a link on our Facebook page. With that, within the next week or two, we will be giving out another t-shirt, so those of you who wish to have a chance to win it, just join our Patreon page, we give it out random to the people who contribute to the show, and with that, we will get on to the episode. My name is Tom, and we are playing the Dreslin Files Adventure Pathogens. We have a few people missing tonight, but the players here tonight, starting on my right arm. Tom is playing a matchful SNM, undercover Homeland Security up here, starting with six fake points. I'm JetPlane and Michadowski, rich business man, black port powered cyan. I believe I have three fake points available. I'm Mike, playing Ellen Montgomery, the soul-sundered warden of Cleveland, and I'm starting with two fake points. I am Scott, playing Wunden Deals, a moral seer to the supernatural powers, and I begin playing with six fake points. I'm John, playing Roberta Martinez, keeping our Cleveland's coins empowered by a phone injury, and I start with three fake points. Okay, last time we left off, we did the Little Roundhouse experiment with everybody involved, except for, I believe, Mr. Shithouse will be here. So we're going to start with that one, and then we'll go right into the flow, which is London and Edmond meeting up together to do, what is it you guys wish to accomplish? Wishing to repair bridges with Abigail because of, well, we won't talk about past occurrences, but I think it's important that we reestablish some of my communication that don't have to deal with outright attacks against each other when it comes to her faction of the, I believe she was University Hospital, it wasn't she, Abigail, and Constance was that clinic. So I want to try to re-establish a rapport with her, and to do that, I have agreed to be Edmond's basically ambassador for this meeting that's taking place in regards to neutral grounds. I certainly have my own agenda, which is to try to warm Abigail up to the idea of not just me, but really our group and what it's trying to accomplish in the city. So I just feel, instead of, she right now she's in the enemy corner, and I want her at least in the neutral corner, and then kind of trying to ease her into the somewhat pro, we don't actually have a name for our group, but whatever it might be, I'd like her to be in a more supportive manner than she is right now. However, ostensibly going there to be Edmond's representative for this meeting. And Edmond intends to meet with Abigail to, well it's not just Abigail, I don't think is it? Cause I thought it was about the neutral grounds, and I thought he was meeting with someone from the, one of them, an arbitrator, the assumption would be if you're meeting with someone like that, it would be because there is some sort of grievance that you want ironed out. Oh, there's a grievance though. I have no grievance. All right. Let's rearrange this a little bit, Abigail has asked to meet with the arbiter with London, and Mr. Shraski has come along hoping to woo favors. What? I wouldn't let him come. No? Why not? Oh, I mean no offense. You know, I mean, first of all, there's no way in hell he's ever going, I mean we talked about this the past. There's no way in hell he's ever going to be able to do the neutral grounds, having picked a side. You cannot run neutral grounds when you're not neutral. However, we did say something along the lines of you having a puppet that you could pull strings of. I'm not even looking for a puppet, I wouldn't mind just getting one, just backing it and having if anybody can agree on a person to be in it and let them be in it. I'll buy the place. So, I mean, unless there was a real reason for me to be there financially. The reason for him being there might be that the arbiter would like had it for the neutral grounds because everyone respects them. Who is the arbiter? Why is it worried? Don't let her act. She is the one that Jim wants to speak to about being the owner of the neutral grounds. Does he want it to still be at his location or is it another location like the one in the west side market? I should not be asking me, but Jim. What are we going to do here? What are you going to do here? Because I want to know before I go in there, because why is Abigail going to be there? If the arbiter is... Abigail is asked to speak with you about events in Cleveland and most specific services. No, I'm going to ask the arbiter of suggestions for locations. Okay, let's just do it. Do you want to do it on the east side or do we want to do it on the east side or do we want to do it in the west side market where they have the meeting rooms? I would feel most comfortable on the west side market where there is an understanding because Abigail is still a very potent adversary when we're not just... I mean, she's a potent adversary when we're crossing words as opposed to swords and I do not have the sword with me. So if I'm going to meet her anywhere it is absolutely going to be in the most neutral of locations. So let's say this is in the evening, it's at the west side market, the west side market is close to public events, but that doesn't mean that the basement where they have meeting rooms and you're showing up there are members of the west side market security waiting there to appease your worry. Right. They show you down to the main, the largest of the meeting rooms in which Riza the arbiter is already there sitting at a table, is a large... I want to ask a quick question off camera if we can, is she hot? She is. She definitely appears to have some fey blood in her and that there's just kind of elfish quality to her. Sure. I could see one in really being attracted to that. Yes. So it's attractive, statuesque, very authoritative charismatic person. I like them when they're authoritative. Yes. Good weed stuff. And so... It's nice. There's a large round table. Right. It's a very thinly veiled way of making people feel more comfortable. Yes. But London does not come anywhere close to their side of the table, or Abigail's side of the table, he sits directly across from her as much distance so that if there needs to be intervening forces to save his ass, he has a second more to the slightest share backwards and buy that time. Okay. That's the one reason why he wanted me to come along. I found the reason why we wanted him to come along to stand behind me. Yes. The sword was missing or the sword was busy or he wanted too much money. He's trying to earn back some of the money you stole from her. Abigail does show up, she shows up with the gentleman as well, sits on the table opposite of you. Or is it that you was waiting for? Is it that dumbass that we had dealt with before? No. I think you're thinking of Constance's dumbass. Constance's dumbass. Yes. I was thinking of Constance's dumbass. Well, didn't she have one as well? I don't know. No, she had a heavy. She's always had a heavy. I don't know if it's ever been fine in the game before. Sure, go ahead, carry on. But, across from the arbiter, a third group comes in and this gentleman is very, very fey. He is clearly from another world. And this is, there is not a reputed father of a chance. Exactly. That's exactly who it is. Right. Great. The arbiter arises as, ah, alas, we are all here and we can bring in the meeting. Abigail has asked me together, you together. I'm sorry, just to clarify, this is just an initial meeting that London requests bid. Nope. Abigail requested. Abigail requested and he receive the message, could you show up? This is not a meeting for the city. This is not a long series for neutral rooms. No. Okay. This is not the type of meeting that you generally want to blow off. I mean, you could, but to keep you standing in the Cleveland area, you probably should show up. Riza introduces first, the Lord Calrin, who is a wild fey that lives in the Cleveland area and he has come to register a complaint and he needs this issue resolved. The issue that he wishes to be resolved, he originally came to Abigail and Abigail said, "Yeah, you want to get London in on this one." He asked for an audience and wished to complain about Abigail's sister, running loose in his area and eating his people. Abigail asked that London be included in this because as far as she sees, this is caused by he and his companions. This is the reason it hasn't started yet, correct? This is the introduction, the explanation, and if you want to jump in at that point, feel free. Oh, of course I want to jump in. The first thing I do is greet everyone at the table by name, respectfully, by their proper titles as it would be. As an assigned, you have heard of Lord Calrin, you've never met him before, you've met plenty of his people. They come to Cleveland, they do enjoy it. Right. I certainly watched over his child while I sought Jim's secretary. And you actually did meet him once, but we didn't notice him. As of aside, my neutral grounds restaurant has an underground which is caters to the non-human people. So the members of his court may well have visited the underground and you nearly have. Absolutely. So at that point I opened up my man purse and I remove an orchid because I know that Abigail is very fond of orchids, it's been something that's always been a thing between us and the past and I hand her, well, I put on the table, then slide over towards her, right? I might have to actually walk over to her and hand her the actual, it's a ghost orchid, which is one of the rarest orchids in the plant world. And I give her a brief description, not, I know she knows what it is, but I just kind of introduce it to her and say, as you walk around the table towards her, the gentleman next to her seems to get a little anxious and kind of sits up a little straighter and his hand seems to go to his waist. Sure. Absolutely. I understand that and I'm not nervous about that because I'm actually holding the flower in my hand as I walk over and I just say, yeah, it seems to me as if relationships need to be repaired and I know that you are a collector and I know that you prize rare and beautiful things as do I. And this ghost orchid is my way of reaching out and trying to make amends for things that individuals in my company did to offend you and I certainly apologize both from myself and for my associates. Okay. Now I have a response in mind that you may or may not do, but I would like to base that on how well your particular approach works. So if you want to make a little. This would be rapport, chit chat closing down, first impressions, opening up, social defense, sounds kind of like a being opening up presence is charisma, command, reputation and social fortitude. I don't think it's an on point as rapport is. Yeah, I got four three good you want to try to, well, you know what? This is kind of I want to roll well, but I just don't think I'm asking for help. It's like this one didn't need to just let you know, right. I rolled four nothings, which gives me a well, am I trying to reach a certain, are you just looking to see how I, it'll be, yeah, I want to see what your attempt ends, but I'm not trying to beat something in this particular instance, or you know, just trying to see what you're, how they open in everybody feels in it, it starts talking right now without any type of adjustment, it is at plus four, which is great. I rolled minus one, so her acceptance of that would be what you're going against, and she seems to be in a mood a little bit of an accepting mood, at least a willingness to listen. Right. It's a, it's a gorgeous plant. The gentleman sitting next to her reaches over to take the plants, meaning it's not even worth her touching it, but she stops him and pulls right and I was going to actually allow that because. Right. But he, his job is to adjust that small indication, or that small gesture, gesture, thank you, Jim, seems to be an indication that she perhaps is willing to consider mending some fences, or she has to understand this that I fall, that is a possibility as well. It's not my fault. Okay. Rolled in. Let's see. Figure that out. So I then return to my side of the table and, um, is there wine or something here? I mean, we're not just all there, well, there are civilized are there are pictures of water, there are glasses. But when you mention that, like you seem to look around. Now when you give our plan is like a clip thing, is this like in a plant? I mean, obviously it has to have some roots, right? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It would be, it would be, you have to take very good care of it is a life, would you say a life plan? I said it would have to have roots, it would have to be. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I'm sure it is in actually in a plastic bag, because temperature and humidity for orchids are insanely important, right? Especially for something as rare and as delicate as this from London's standpoint. So, um, he would definitely have it exactly the way she needed it to get it to someplace safely. Right. At least she didn't throw it back at you. Yeah. No, she did not. Drush! Lord Calaren is, looks slightly annoyed at this. Whoa, I have it, I have it, I haven't finished yet. When I look around and there's, we're like barbarians with like tap water at the table. This is absolutely ridiculous. Just your act of you look at the water and then you seem to be looking for something else. It appears that's your side. Is there something else we can get you some props on? And he suggests a decent white wine or do I know anything at all about Lord Calaren's tastes. Uh, what if your old contacts is going to be, it would have to be a good roll. I rolled a one plus and one minus for a wash. Yeah, I need a good roll and my contacts are actually great at plus four. Okay. No enough that you have overheard in Mr. Shadowski's establishment, some members of this court saying they're going to, and that he likes white wine and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And when, you know, when they offer to bring something because we are not barbarians drinking tap water and they ask me if a white wine would do, I say, oh, one second night, out of my man purse, I pull out the exact wine that Lord Calaren would enjoy. And I say, I think this would suffice for the moment. His response seems a little cooler than hers did. Oh, hers was? To be clear. hers was pretty cool. Right. I mean it was. Well, it was the one he, what he was annoyed by the fact that she received a gift and I did not. Oh, no. It seems. Yeah. It's not the impress that you thought. And also he's not trying to show that he's impressed that it's the right wine, you know, that, so he doesn't know how you would know that, but you are at all London. Having been in many, many negotiations at this level, you can see A, that he appreciates the effort, B, that he's doing a really hard push to not show that. That he's impressed. Right. And refresh my memory because it's been years since this particular story, but Janice was eventually returned to him? No. Nope. No, that sucks. And now us. Yeah. He was involved. He was supposedly the, he wanted her, I thought. He was involved with Constance and the fact that he was there for the exchange. He bugged out very early in the process as things went to shit. Right. And it's expected. The child ended up being taken by the white council to some place that we don't know. And that was a good year ago. The baby's got to be about a year old now. Well, it's going to suck. So the Lord attempts to bring things back. He doesn't have all day to spend here. We'd like to get this resolved as soon as possible. I think something needs to be done about the fact that Constance is running rampant in my land, destroying things, eating people, threatening people. She's a very powerful creature that you apparently thought you could dump into our realm without any consideration. Yeah. Who's he? Could something about that? Me. London. We did. Now we did. Now we did. We opened a gate and pushed her through. No, we didn't. We left Constance. Wait. She was. Wasn't she being taken led away by Abigail was the one taking care of that Abigail was setting us up, man. But I'm not here. Sorry. I can't tell you that. I just need to be remembered. I mean, everybody can give the recollection of what happened so that London, aka Scott will have a refresher in his mind. Constance was an Abigail's care, now how Abigail dealt with Constance as far as I understood unknown to us. Yeah. They opened the door and left as far as I remember. Now if Abigail has put Constance in the Feywild to run amok as a way of containing her, that's on her. Yes. The Fey world or is she in the Metro parks? According to Lord Calrin, and she has been for the last three, well, actually closer to like six or seven months. Yeah, months. Okay. I thought you were going here. No, no, no. Six or seven months. Just causing havoc. She's an extremely powerful wild creature. She's a mindless vampire who is destroying the entire area eating creatures, people. Taking the land properly. Something needs to be done. The land in fact is changing around her power and becoming more like her and this is not something that we can have. Something needs to be done. Well Lord Calrin, we can very much appreciate your concern and truly empathize with how difficult the situation that must be. However, unless I'm somehow mistaken, I believe you've directed your vitriol towards this half of the table and to the best of my knowledge, my associates nor myself in any way shape or form contributed to Constance arriving in the Fey. We certainly don't have that power to open up gates and we did not send her there. So I'm kind of confused if you could maybe elucidate your point further of how we're responsible for her being in the Fey. The entire time you're like fucking Roberto, fucking asshole, fucking Roberto. That's a commentary in the back of my mind right now. My original line of inquiry was to Abigail. Since this was her sister and since she is one of the members of the White Council and she can open gates to the Fey, and she stated in fact that it was herself that did that, that opened that gate, but she claims that her sister was corrupted and ruined and changed into the murderous beast by yourself and your associates. Well, that is certainly a claim worth delving into in more detail because I can say unequivocally that it's my belief that only one of the individuals that are an associative mind would be responsible for her current condition. Yes, go ahead. What? None of us are responsible for that. That was the old words. Well, we're not culpable. Well, all of us are responsible, but to their knowledge, none of us are culpable for the fact that she's insane. It was a death curse by the other warden. That's what they believe, right? Donna. I lean over to you and I'm like, yeah, she'll build it. Right. And so that's my opinion. He was associate to you. Oh my God, it's been, I don't know how long, almost three years, but he built on and laid down a death curse, which was written by Bill Allen Montgomery. Well, this is the reality of how you want to spend it, in which they worked in conjunction. It was both of them together coming up with the plan to ruin her mind and prevent her from ever casting magic again, but in doing so, turn her into a feral beast. That's why I don't hold it. It still was finally smacked her head with a fucking sludge hammer. It was solved. Do you really want to blame me, but that's not what that is. No, no, but it's just, it's, it's London. So I do say that there was an associate of ours that I think bears some responsibility, although I'm not willing to admit that it is as much responsibility as the very able and beautiful Abigail might intend it to be. I believe it actually was an associate of ours who is no longer, unfortunately, with us. It would have been the former warden of Cleveland, who was Bill Donovan, but he was killed for his transactions, which would have been Bill Donovan, who actually uttered the magics, the foul magics that tainted Abigail's unfortunate sister. And for that, my associates, specifically the current warden of Cleveland, was forced to put forth the retribution for that heinous abuse of magic and put Bill Donovan to death in response to that. So from our standpoint, it was a very loose associate, if an associate at all, who was then killed for and actually executed for the actions that took place, and that that's the best that we could do at that particular point since none of us were responsible for that spell or that curse, if you will. It's magic, a little uncertain, as to the technicalities or qualities of it. The man that you should blame, unfortunately, has been executed for that crime. I fucking reverse it. Rise this up in for a moment, excuse me, I don't know all the details of what occurred here. Could you perhaps explain to me what you and the parties involved were doing at the location you were at that evening, in which this transfer to the fate occurred? Now I don't want you to go through a lengthy explanation or spin on how and what happened exactly as you may or may not recall it, but we're going to leave this up to a roll. You do want to go into and make it sound like I'm sure it's none of it. It's absolutely false if you happen to be. We were trying to deliver the child to a child that we were making. I want to just throw a little, we were fulfilling an obligation, in particular, my obligation to bring the child there. It was never specifically stated, at least in our side of it, that we were handing the child over, but we produced the child, we fulfilled our obligation and then we did the old switcheroo with the child to save her from what was presumably we thought foul deeds and dirty. Because we know that they know the child got blown up and disappeared and it's no longer on the map. That is true. Okay. And I don't do the magic of Bill Donovan as well, right? But I don't call Beast. I don't believe that Ellen Montgomery killed his mentor. I don't care how many times you guys want to say that. That's not what happened. Constance killed your mentor. She was taunted to the point where she was angry and ripped his throat out, killing him, which is why he death cursed her. Then why was I defending myself against magic? Didn't I have to kill him? He hit you with a fireball because he wanted to kill the child that you were holding in your hands. I'm just saying. Yeah. I don't remember that. I think it's being misremembered because you taunted her to the point of she was in a frenzy so that she would kill him and get the death curse. That was the whole point. Bill Donovan taunted her. Oh, really? He was the one that told her he had to go get diapers for the baby and we'll be there and oh, well, an hour over here, that was long and then an hour over here. Because I was told to do that by my leader. Yeah. It was not Bill Donovan. It was London that taunted her to the edge of London. Oh, okay. I mean, that's London. He does that to everybody. That's why I only want the edge of reason. My new answer is, oh, that was London. Right. That's excellent. I like it. So I want to roll for your trying to spin this to this group of people that your reason for being there was totally innocent and had nothing to do with it. Okay. Well, there's two ways of getting set up that you wanted to-- I think deceit or I think the vast majority of this is probably deceit because you're not specifically trying-- but isn't there some underlying truth to the fact that best deceit there always is? Well, sure. I mean, we're talking about 90% of the truth here. Okay. Well, we're talking about-- we were there. We did bring the job. Right. But you are trying to be deceitful and hiding that last 10% percent. Okay. London news. I don't think there is really another one conviction, maybe, because he believes in the same. I believe. But I'm okay with deceit. I also think you did bring Abigail in on some of the plan, and she is sitting at this table, and there's like a three-way tie war to who's getting blamed here. Right. I mean, she's going to be looking for any additional new information that you're telling, and you're trying to hide any new additional information that she does know of. All right. Do you want to see any better than mine? Oh, no. Okay. Here we go. Well, let's be clear then. The only thing about the story that Abigail didn't know was that the switcharoo was going to go ahead, was going to happen, because Abigail was there to help himself. Oh, there's a-- She was my arbiter. Sorry that she doesn't know. I mean, for that situation, the only thing that she wouldn't know would be that we had a plan to spirit the baby away. And that the baby still-- That she was there because we were terrified of Constance. Right. We thought she'd be here faces. There's a whole layer of story here that she doesn't know about, that nobody knows about. That Constance had the baby intentionally created so that she could use her in some macabre scheme to create new vampires, and you don't want any of that information leaking out. You don't want-- Oh, right. I mean-- There's a whole layer of stuff. That was probably-- You do the same thing that Constance was doing. Right. And we're aware of that? They were in arms race. Right. Yeah. They were in an arms race, and if we tell her, yeah, we had the solution to your arms race, and we totally fucked you both out of it. If you're explaining a story of how you got there, good luck with coming up a reason that hides all of these little components of that story, so that you don't leak any information that's now in there. Because there's plenty of-- Well, three years ago, that was Future London's problem. Right. Well-- Three years later. Future London's here and now. Plus three minus one for a total of plus two, however, my deceit is only fair, which gives me a great role as far as explaining how we ended up in the situation that we ended up. I think this would be a point where I'd want to spend a faint point. I know everyone-- Probably all the listeners probably want me to use, but I'm London. But I'm going to try to use something different in this particular case where the end justifies the means, or information is power. I think information is power is probably the one that fits a little better. Obviously, for us, the ends justify the means, but when I'm trying to explain it to someone that I'm being deceitful to, the fact that I have information and I can spin it into an interesting, believable story, I think would be what I'd like to do, which takes it to a fantastic, and I chuck in the beat, and you're allowed to bump it once, right? No, you're allowed to bump it as many points as you are willing to spend, you're allowed to bump it once per aspect. As I look at my aspects, I think that's the one that is the strongest, and I think it's the one that should be used. Now, Lord Karen's epathy is great, however, he rolled mine as two, so he doesn't have a lot of law in your plan. Well, Abigail, however, also wrote poorly, thank you Abigail, and she's down to great. When I was a fantastic boy, I need him to buy a step, and beat him by what? Fair, so. Two steps, right? No, that's like four steps, you might have to spin. So, okay, I'm sorry, I thought a step was too... Should I almost believe this? Yeah, probably been going over this in your head over and over. On the way here, yeah, I would think so. While you succeed, with Abigail, you succeed with style against the Lord, which means you have an additional benefit if you would like to put some type of aspect out on the table. London seems reasonable. That isn't for the whole realm, that's not specifically for the Lord. Yeah, I think Edmond's just sipping his wine and just, he's probably smirking like trying not to laugh. London does his talking, them in circles, I don't want to take the whole night with this meeting, however, Abigail sets her piece as well on what happened. It explains that she was brought into the situation and that her sister was being threatened, that she did open the gate but she still believes that there was some kind of plan that it just seemed that multiple times the situation could be resolved and it seemed to escalate this if there was some attempt to kill her sister. She does, however, admit the fact that her sending her sister into the fay, that was her choice and that it was, in her opinion, the lesser of two evils leaving her in Cleveland would have ended up with a much uglier situation in which the Lord does not take lightly to that particular statement, so it's okay for my people to die. She argues that it would have brought the entire city down upon all creatures of supernatural and that sometimes there is cost to pay and the Lord say, "Well, why isn't my people?" And in the end, the argument goes around and around in circles between the two of them. You seem to have moved yourself a little bit to the side with your explanations. The fine wine, which I'm enjoying right now, the arbiter eventually puts a hold to the, he says she has more than enough information and that she would like to meet you all in a couple of days, two days from now in which you will make her decision on the course of action. That is most reasonable. Before we break from the meeting, I'd like to speak to the arbiter. Actually, I think it's me after we break from the meeting, yes, yes, and as we break personally, you know, as an aside, like there's something one to discuss with you. Abigail seems a little, if the meeting would have went off without you basically, well, I'm not saying you threw her under the bus, but it ended up that she did have to take more of a blame than she would have liked to have. Now, admittedly, yes. Perhaps the situation is just a little bit more her fault than she would have never said. Right, but she seems a little less forgiving than when you gave her the orchid by the end of the meeting, but so it breaks up without any potential. I was wondering if I might have an aside with her before she left. You have my number making an appointment. Fair enough. When it comes to Edmund and the arbiter, I can't imagine a possible reason why I wouldn't know the likes and dislikes of the arbiter, whether it be from my longstanding in Cleveland or my ability to see, to divinate. So I would like, as Edmund is about to approach her with his aside, I'd like to hand him something small, whether it be some types of, you know, an expensive perfume or a type of gel stone or something. I'm going to give you a choice because you couldn't spend a fake point and just have it. Or I would like you to make a role that is superb. Now. In what context? Now, it would be, context would be the default one, but she stated that she could potentially use your divination. So that might be lore. And the reason that this is, is she does her utmost to remain. That is incredibly vulnerable and neutral so that nobody can influence her. She doesn't typically share knowledge of her favorite things. My context is too above. It's great. Too above lore. Maybe it makes more sense. And if I get a chance to roll a plus, I might as well take the, I might not going to risk not losing a fake point by making the role and seeing if I can roll a plus one. So I need to get great, right? I mean, a phantom, superb, excuse me, which is one above great. Okay. Here we go. Unfortunately, I rolled a minus one, which gives me, drops me down to good. I then spend the fake point that I would have spent anyways with a simple, everything has a price. Or was that right? No, I didn't use everything. No, it really doesn't matter because each conflict is separate from the other. And you can use each aspect once per conflict. All right. So thank you. I will use, but I'm London because I know shit and I just, that's just something I would know. Good enough. And I hover in the background so Edmund can do what he needs to do. It's actually a fine Belgian chocolate, which is her favorite. It's very difficult to get, it's imported, and not a lot of it because it's a very small place that makes it limited supply. It's basically a boutique chocolate shop, Edmund. So here you go. Good luck to you. And I step back and unless you need help, in which case I'll certainly lend a mirror, but I think it should be his show. My character can talk better than I can. Okay. But what I'm trying to get across is the fact that I've tried and failed to get neutral grounds and a business that I'm, she informs you, she has heard of these endeavors that you've taken. Yeah. And I would still like to see it done, but it's not going to be done through me as far as a place that I'd like to own or run or have anything, or any part in. So I would like to have a neutral party. I won't put the place and see if we can get essential for Cleveland to have a place to go. Yeah. That was going to be my question is, are you trying to sell this as this is something that Cleveland needs? Yeah. That's what I'm saying is that Cleveland needs it, and I'd like to financially back it if it needs to be built, or there's money involved to make it happen. But I do not want to be the sole owner responsible for it. I want it to be someplace that everybody picks and feels safe on. I just want it to happen, and I think you would be the prime person to either pick it, run it, or tell us who would be the person to pick it or run it, or to go to the other parties involved and ask them where they think this should be, or if it should be, or shouldn't be. Because I'm not convinced that everybody doesn't think it's a good idea. I just, everybody wants their own, have their own agenda on where to be and how it should be in. How do you want to sell this? What skill are you trying to use? It sounds like rapport, left, right, and sideways, yeah. Which is currently good. It's a wash. Okay. So, I'll spend the faith because it's something I've been wanting to care about. In what aspect are you going to tap to? I'm easy to talk to. Okay. Are you at all then? Superman. That'd be my final. I think convincing somebody should probably be a flat goal, if they need to. Well, you see, she, because it's not really opposition, I'm just trying to convince her that she needs to look into it and see if it's possible to see if I can get her on board with it. You're only against the role and that should be the first because she's a busy woman. Well, it does fit into her personality and what she does in Cleveland and it's not really asking her to do anything that wouldn't be of the nature that she typically does, which is neutrality. It is going to be an investment of her time to do this. So, she does agree that it would be beneficial for something to Cleveland has, but she's not sure that she has the resources and the time to allocate towards such a thing. Can I make a brief comment so, again, that this is Edmond's gain? I don't want to interfere and then have- I don't think that Edmond could stop London from making a brief comment. Oh, no. What I meant was I forgot that it was only towards the Lord. I was going to say that London sounds reasonable, it's happy that aspect, but that wasn't for her. No, that was- It was just for the Lord, so I can help you though, right? I can make a role to try to help him and give him a bonus up to you, right? Long time, I think, well, all right. Let's do it this way. Besides that, I'm just trying to think of what resource we could throw at it that isn't her. She doesn't have a resource. Why not be your voice, but- But she runs it this way. The Lord is walking by and overhears this and agrees that this is something that I think Cleveland needs. So he, in effect, London's rapport with the Lord is helpful to you and that he is saying to the arbiter, the Wild Fade may be an agreement with this. We, of course, would want it totally separate from things like eyeing you guys. Right. Any influence, but it is established throughout the history of Cleveland, the Derivator is trustworthy and not easily influenced if at all impartial. If nothing else, we could make this lower level the market. Nutrient is a business partner, for free, like give her 50% or something, or 49, or 49, 51. I don't understand why, but I- Because I think it would be her business and she would not have to cost, it wouldn't cost her any money. It's not- To run it. You want to write in your basement, give her the basement? It's not- You want a location, right? She says she keeps us on the money to create a little- No, no, she's saying she just- Oh, I missed one who sticks, I was going. She's saying, that's all right. She doesn't have the time to dedicate towards this because time is money. She doesn't have the time to go to the other parties and say, "Where's a good spot?" And she doesn't have the time- The good spot, I thought, where you have one. Now, that's what I'm saying. We have a spot. We just need someone to go to the parties and have them agree that this is the spot to do it. Right. But even that, even the planning of that and the arranging of those people, all of this takes time and money. And it is not necessarily something that I have a lot of. We can drag them all here and headlock. Or have fake arguments, and then they have to show up there and then she can share up tissues. It is- It is certainly something she will consider. She believes that you are correct, that it is something that is good for Cleveland, and she will take it under advisement, and with that she excuses herself. Now, it may be that she was hinting that if there were some kind of backing or something. That's right. And I think I didn't mention that. I go- That I would. It's worth discussing. It's got a place that needs to be funded or built, I could fund it, but I won't run it. It won't be my property and my people. You've got to be able to party- I would just, yeah, I could have it built and furnished and then- Right. That was hardy would run it. But I'm saying you've got two different impressions from her. One is she really does believe it is a good idea, and it could be beneficial to Cleveland. However, she would probably want to be approached again with a more flush out plan, and if left to her devices, then it's not going to happen. I mean, yeah, it's a nice idea, but there's plenty of nice ideas in the world. So we'll leave that there. That wraps up that evening because it was an evening meeting. Do we have any plans for the next day? Yeah, I'm just playing Xbox in my door. It looks like we may be hunting for constants, maybe, at some future time. Can I say since I grappled with her at the end of that last meeting that I saved the clothing I was wearing while I was grappling with her, and it has some of her blood and stuff with it, so I could use that. Are we talking about transfer? Let's come down if we need to. Yes. It's been eight months. Eight months. Wow. It could have been a quick thing. We know a blossom part. I mean, he's a forensic investigator in a way, being always private animal. I couldn't like put a sample of it and hit it away somewhere, kept it safe and fresh. Yes, you did. Okay. As I say, even if we didn't, if we still have the clothes wrap, I have shown the ability to, you know, re-liquify the blood, the shape of the truck. He does seem to have the blood or juice out of it, and you, of course, have the premier tracker. Cool. I have to mention I can use magic to track down somebody if I have the blood or a sample of their hair or something. Can we meet up? You know what? You can. All right. Let's do this. Before we go on, do we get an idea of where the Faye Lord and where Abigail stood on what they wanted done with her? Did they want her caught alive and caged? They want her killed and removed? Was there any indication that what was the final thing that they want to have done with their beside? Say, Lord. Care of it. Done. Give a shit. He wants his people to stop dying. He wants her out of the Faye. In the Faye, she is causing the Faye to change in not good ways, and this is his land. And the reason it is almost like a sanctuary for them is there's a reflection of the real world in the Faye. Cleveland is this dome, this circle that's protected from things. That's also true in the Faye. It may be a smaller area, it may be a vastly larger area, you don't know, because there's no direct correlation, but no one's been a map, they've been a bit busy, it changes all the time. If there's a sanctuary where it's safe for them to hide from the other, the winter and the summer, there's a predator in that area. And what about Abigail? Abigail is, Abigail, she's the sister of Constance. You know from her past actions that she does appear to want her sister killed. She's a little upset when we tried to do it right in front of her. That way. But one of us tried to do it in front of her. So, that was the meeting with the arbiter. You guys go and do what you do for the evening, next morning you return, you wake up and you're called to brother Francis's or just those guys, those guys being all of you. We were ruled responsible for counsels by the arbiter. You've been discussed as had brother Francis, obviously because I'm sure London is going to bring up the fact that what he had to go through yesterday and it wasn't his fault. Right. Yeah, I'm sure we wanted to discuss things with Alan. So you all appear at the, what's the place where, the rectory? The rectory, sure. Didn't you work at the consent Ignatius, was all that? Yes. You all appear at the consent Ignatius at different times. But the brother Francis is busy, he'll be with you shortly, but you are all in a room together waiting for him. Well, he said, you know, seven, thirty and then he was running likes because school started and some kids were causing trouble and he had to take care of it and you guys are there waiting for him to finish up. That's all perfectly reasonable. I just find him a little insulting when it follows six very important people together and says, wait, I'm not there yet. You don't work in the corporate. No, you're not. I don't know how many meetings I had been. It's a power move, you know, a dick move. Those are the same things. You're a dick, brother Francis. I just don't know this script. For the audience. That's normal. That's a normal thing. That happened. All right. So we're all there. Yeah. That sure. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, one minute. Have at it. And it may start with running as a recap of the night before. And the prodigious who see had to jump through what the train monkey. Thank you for listening tonight to the night actual play podcast. If you'd like to send us questions, comments or feedback, you can reach us in a number of ways from Twitter @kyotn_podcast or by email feedback@kyotnpodcast.com. And don't forget the iTunes reviews or our Facebook page facebook.com/kyotn.podcast. Speaking of Facebook, join like-minded folks at our Facebook fan page. And lastly, there's our blog page, kotnpodcast.com, where there's an Amazon link on the right-hand side. Thanks to Zen Audiosmith for the intro and outro music. Get your own music at zenaudiosmith.com. And join us next week for more mystery and adventure. Who is the arbiter of a Murray head? Murray M-U-R-R-A-Y. Is that one night in Bangkok? It is one night in Bangkok. And he's singing the song as the arbiter. No. Damn it. That was pretty good though. It was pretty good. Yeah. And she is- And she knows the score. She's watching square one. All right. Watch the 64. I know the song. And it is a good song. You can't help it. I can't. I love that song. I have to dance. That whole soundtrack is awesome. I think both your castitutions are terrific, so now I'm on a case. I've never heard of that contract. The whole contract. And the objection... Now it is overruled. Let me know when you're done. I am the arbiter and I know best. Okay. I'm done. It's the beer. Are you? Are you done? I'm done. Oh, okay. I'm on a case. Can't be fooled. And the objection is overruled. Yes. 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