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Junkyard party, a friend shot from a cannon & superstitions

Ray & Chris reminisce back 12 years to their 10th show anniversary party that was held at a junkyard (where else?). Good friends and listeners Debbie & Rusty came down with a vintage racing go-kart, and this week Ray attended a celebration of Rusty's life where he was shot from a cannon and 4 rockets! Chris posits that car guys are a superstitious bunch, then admits that he's better at sewing than welding. A dealership software hack & Mazda belts round out the show.

Duration:: 57m
Broadcast on:: 23 Jun 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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That's right, Motormouth Radio, a cool soft drink of radio for your warm body right now. Ice filled with carbonation. We could use some ice filling right now with the way the weather is outside, I'll tell you that much. Yes, exactly. It's nice out there. Good boy, so I'll tell you what was nice and this was very, very good. What's the word I'm looking for, a melancholy kind of way? I went to an event yesterday that I want to talk about, it was a life celebration. I don't know if you've ever been to one of those. Oh yeah, and I'll tell you, when you go to one of those, it's like a funeral. I guess you could say, but right, am I right? You know what, there's no rules. There's no written format for how this is done, so it's however the people doing it want to do it. You speak of the person that's being celebrated himself. If you want to, yeah, you don't have to. This one was quite different and it ties into our show, because if you remember, and if any of the listeners remember, I think in 2012, we had a 10-year anniversary, and we had a party. 2012? Yes. 2012? Yes. And we had a party and we were lucky to have a friend named Jimmy Rowakko, who owned Freeport Order Records, and says, "Hey, he says, "Why don't you guys have your party here?" I'm like, "Wow, in a junkyard." And he says, "It's going to be great, because his get ready area where they distanced, rental to cars, was all concreted, indoors, and outdoors was concreted." And he said, "I'm having the Freeport Historical Society event here the day before, so this place is never going to be cleaner than it's going to be then. I'm already going to have the tables and chairs there, because they're not getting picked up until Monday. So you guys just come in on Sunday and take over." Yes, we had our 10th anniversary, Modemouth Radio, 10th anniversary party at the South of Georgia, Freeport Order Records, which had to be one of the best parties I have intended. Well, people have said that still through the years, the people who have been there, and the people who weren't, which they were. So, you know, Pyropol hooked us up with his friends who had a live band, and were just looking, they were hungry to play, they came and played. And we had all sorts of stuff. I mean, a lot of friends and family were there. And among them were our friends, Debbie and Rusty Becker. Now, Rusty had been a go-kart racer back in his earlier life. He raced very hot and heavy and profusely. And now he had joined, like, the over 50 group, because, yeah, he got older. And he brought one of his old go-karts with them, which was really cool. And it was on display. People were all over that thing. Well, it ends up Rusty had passed fairly recent. I don't know the date, but Debbie was having a celebration of his life yesterday. And he asked if, you know, we could attend. So, I went up there, and Rusty went out in style. You know, I tell you something. When you know, I didn't know anybody except Debbie when I walked in that door. Oh, right. Into the backyard. People knew me. You know, I guess maybe we're in a more about the radio shirt helped. Oh, you did? Well, I figured that instead of a tag that says hi, my name is. Let me just wear one of my, you know, one of my polo shirts. And I did. Nice. And it didn't throw rocks at it. And it ends up, it was the same when I wore it to 12th anniversary. Because I look back at the pictures after the fact, not before the fact. So, yeah, I like the yellow one for some reason. It kind of blends. Anyway. That's your eyes. So, I was talking with a lot of her family and friends. Yeah, well, it used to match my eyes years ago. Let's not talk about that, please. And I can. I'm glad you got that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, sometimes it's not too late at the time. I listened to the show back, but that was a quick one. So, you know, now you see from an like, almost an outsider's perspective, people's family and friends and how they have interrelated and how they still relate. And now you're seeing them in a time of happy grief, let's say, you know, right. It's usually never a dry eye in the house. Well, you know, they're almost more emotional. I'd tell you, Debbie had a nice four-page kind of eulogy that she wrote. That was, you know, breaking a few people up. It was very, it was heart-rendering. And then, you know, one of her friends, this guy, Matt, he plays music. So, he was up, played a couple of songs and he, you know, he was MCing kind of at the event. He was calling things out. And they had a band there of friends. These guys were all friends for years. And, you know, a lot of drinking, a lot of commiserating, a lot of talking, a lot of stories and, you know, things going on. But I guess Rusty had requested this. If not, I guess Debbie just decided, I think he requested it. They had bought a little, a little cannon. When she said they bought a cannon years ago, I thought of Dennis to go at me and God rest his soul. Because Dennis bought a cannon to put on his lawn. But it was like a five-foot barrel cannon, man. Yeah, it was one that I saw military use. Yeah. Well, she said they had bought this cannon years ago. And Rusty, always having an engineering and inquisitive of mine, like to see how things worked. And they wanted to just fire this thing to just have some fun with it. Just a little pop. It wasn't big. It was small. It kind of looked like a kid's toy, but like bigger. And they never fired it. So one of the things they were going to do yesterday was put some of Rusty's ashes in with the charge in this cannon. And send him out over the sound. Wow. And they did. And then these guys had also, oh yeah, I have video of that. These guys had also had like a little modeling club where they, because they built a lot of stuff. These guys were all hands-on guys that are creative guys. And they got into rocket making years ago. So there were four rockets that went off each with a piece of Rusty in it. Wow. And that was quite a sight to behold too. What an exit. What a way to go. You know, yeah. And I have to think, you know, he wanted it that way, obviously. He probably, that was his choice. And it was cool to see, because now you're looking at something guys our age would do. You know, not like our parents age. I told the one guy, I said, you know, some of my kids hate it when I say it, but let's face it, you know, on that pecking water of life. We got the front row right now. Yeah. Thanks for reminding me. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Well, that's the thing. It's like a triangle. It's like a pyramid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As you reach the height of the pyramid, it gets smaller and smaller. And they call next, like, oh, yeah, it's the right exactly. So that's the thing, you know, we've brought with us our habits and our hobbies and our life styles. And that's what it's all about. So, you know, so it was a very good event. And I was glad to be a part of it. I was happy to participate. Yeah. It sounded like a noble time to have. And you call it a good time or a fun time. Well, you know, I got to say in the spirit of the event. It was because everybody was speaking positive and saying good things. And there was really no negativity at all. It was all about the good stuff, you know. And that alone is cool. Yeah. That's good. So that was very good. So when I post now, if you might want to follow us on social media this week. Murder Mouth Radio on Facebook and on Twitter or X, if you like. Instagram is real underscore Murder Mouth Radio. And this show can be found later on real underscore Murder Mouth video on YouTube. But on the social media, I will post some pictures of this. If you want to see like, don't go to, I'm going to say don't go to don't go to X or Twitter, whatever the heck it is. You can only put four pictures up. Right. Go to either Instagram, real underscore Murder Mouth Radio or Facebook, Murder Mouth Radio. You can see up to 10 pictures that I will post from, you know, from the events. And that goes for every week. There's always more there. Yes. You know, you always keep the Instagram page well stocked with good information. I've always go to it. I have it up on my computer right now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Please. You always keep it. Keep it on topic. So the last one you're seeing was Tuesday night at the Seaford Train Station. Yeah. I saw some nice iron. I did go back Friday night with our good friend Gerard from Rolling Thunder. And it was a bigger crowd. I didn't take any pictures. It just wasn't, you know, a lot of guys came in a park behind each other. So you couldn't really get good shots of the cars. Oh, okay. So I didn't, I didn't take any pictures on Friday night, but it was a little bit of a bigger crowd and some really hot iron at that event. And all these guys, you know, they're older guys. They're driving multi hundreds of horsepower cars. Some of them 800 or 1000. And you know what? Everybody behaves. Nobody makes trouble. Yeah. And it's crazy kids. And they kind of self-regulated to make sure that that doesn't happen. And very nice. Very nice that that works that way. All right. You know what's funny? This is something I've kind of realized. Guys that, like you say that are getting up there in age, you know, they worry about their cognitive abilities at times. I know, I know you and I have discussed it at times, but I've also come to realize that car guys are pretty sharp. Yeah. They may not be the funniest bunch and a lot of times they could be ordinary, but their cognitively sound. Sharp like sharp is a marble. Sharp is not. Now listen to the show. We'll remember where that came from for years ago. Yeah. But yeah, I've come to realize, yeah, they could be grouchy. Yeah, they could be humorless. They all have their wits about them. And not alone. I can totally appreciate it. And speaking of which, if you do have your wits about you, when you still want to work with your thumbs, you can text us at 203-670-4127. Right here. I got the phone charged up and we will take some of your... Or take your fingers, stick it in the hole and dial. 516-572-7440 and tell us what you're into. Well, there's a... of course, there's more shows and cruises now than you can shake a... Oh, I'm sure. Shake a push rod out. But there's another one coming up. This is going to be next week, Sunday, June 30th. This is a biggie. This is of close to our hearts. It's the Police Surgeons Benevolent Association and the Centurion Cruises Car Club. It's at Saint. You remember your cue? There you go. Saint Anthony's High School on 275 Wolfville Road, South Huntington. Right by the LIE. This is going to have cars, truck, street rods, muscle cars, a whole display of fire and police vehicles, service vehicles, antique vehicles, all sorts of stuff. Show starts at night. Our good brand Billy G will be out there because he's in charge of some of the parking stuff. Good show. Great cause. I highly recommend you go check it out if you have nothing to do next week. If they're early, you can get a spot. Definitely. Definitely. And when you pull and go, "Hello, boys!" And no one will know what you're talking about. No, no. Unless a certain guy named John is hanging around and say, "Hey, was there an echo over here?" So, yeah. That's for sure. Hey, you know something? Not only are we a humorless and... and... and... and grouchy bunch. But I've come to realize that car guys are superstitious. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've realized it this week. And I'll give you a quick story. Okay. So, I would say you remember, you recall back, I guess it was... it was still cold. I guess it was February and March. My cousin Pat shows up with the Camaro, parks it in my driveway, and we had just come back from the show. We just showed the car. And he pulls into the driveway and he will park under my trip. And he leaves it there. Yeah, I should do. Maybe we should give you a little bed music. Whoo! What do you think? Go ahead. Yeah, I did. What do you think? Apparently, it's a slow ramp up. Oh, there we go. Ooh, nice. Superstition, not super... Superstition! But he says it's very superstitious, right? Yes! Right here. Yeah. So, here's what he does. He parks it under the tree. This was back like I said pretty much. And when he went to go restart the car, it started, but it went low. Alright, right. He looked at the Muncie transmission. Right. Right there. So, this week, he's got the Camaro. He pulls into the driveway, parks it under the tree, gets out of the car, and I said, "I wouldn't park it under there." Right. But what happened last time? Yes. So, we had a good chuckle over it for five minutes, and he went and got the car. And it was stuck. Really? Nothing. I mean nothing. Dead. Nothing. Well, up the wood, check the battery. It's... El Morta. Everything was fine. I put the jumper on it. Yeah. It's like the battery probably just completely imploded. I put the jumper on it. Nothing. Wow. We had to let the car, who lost, for about, I would say an hour. Did the starter heat up that much? Yeah. The starter was to heat it up. So, I know he's got headers. So, he's got headers. He probably has the original GM starter in that car. Glad. Tell him to buy a mini starter. Tell him to spend it to 100 bucks. Buy a mini starter, and you know what? You'll have no more trouble. We were chuckling. Well, Pat wasn't. Well, we knew that. He was like, "That's a good car." Should have took the Corvette, Marge. The funny thing is, and this is the brilliance of it. I mean, we are living three minutes from each other, so... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you could have pushed the car home. It would have been fine. Down hill. It would have been fine. Yeah. But the problem was, we couldn't even, we didn't even have enough runway. To get it to, like, roll something to second and get it to fire. Yeah, yeah. Because everything is flat. In the state of Connecticut, we have the only, literally, the only area where everything is flat. Right. We made sure of that. Because there are some houses we looked at here, maybe years ago, where you needed a guardrail because they were drop-offs. Like, because the hills and rocks that people live on. No, here it's flat. So, we couldn't get it to 88 miles an hour, so we can dump it at the sector. So, Neil's the same path won't be coming to your house. Have you met him at the corner? Well, he'd be parking under my tree. Yeah. No. Oh, boy. Thank you, Steve. So, yeah, we were chuckling over that. That's pretty funny. That was, that was my... Highlight at the highlight of the week. That's cool. Hey, crack up a couple of cold ones. Hey! All right, why not? You know, what the heck? Hang out. Hey! Sure, it was nice. Yeah. So, I also had a week filled with successes and failures. Uh-oh. Oh, you know what? We have a success. Uh, we may have a success. Yes. We have a call. Yes, we do. So, let's push the button. Go to the phones and go to what Ray calls the fun. And say, "Hey, call me around the motor mouths." Hello Ray. Hello, Chris. It's not John. It's Supery today, huh? Yeah, a little Supery. Come on, John. I hope you're wearing something flimsy. Oh, yes, I am. [LAUGHTER] My speedo. Whoa! There's a 50-picture painting in our minds now. Yeah, you're going to have to put your points on. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, I got to get those glasses from, uh... What was that movie with? Roddy Roddy Piper, where you only saw it was the aliens. Right. I got to get those glasses like... [LAUGHTER] What the heck was the name of that? I know the movie you're talking about. I just... Yeah. Oh, it's too funny. Yeah, I was laughing, Chris. I don't know. It's just my dumb look. You always hear of people having dead batteries when it's two degrees out. Yeah, oh, yeah. I think out of the past six that I've changed, one happened in the winter. Yeah. And that was in my vet and it was sitting unused and it just went. But everything that I've owned, it's like weather like this where it's blistering hot and they go dead. Yeah, John, I mean, we knew it. I saw that in the order of electric field when I worked there because in the summer, our business ramped up. We did more starters than all the days. If my place would have sold batteries, they probably could have made a fortune. Because it was starters, alternators, and batteries all summer. A little hotter it got. Really? Man, the more we had a build. Yeah. I told it to come and problems to have them go on the heat. I can't remember the less starter I had changed. They seem to have gotten that nailed down. You know why? I'll tell you why. You know, I mentioned that Pat should get a mini starter and by that I mean it's a small, it's a gear reduction starter. They used to use those back in the day originally in the Farra cars. Like in the early '70s, the Toyotas and Hondas. And I remember the first time I saw it, I was like, what was this? And then we didn't see them very often because they were so damn reliable. Well now, all manufacturers, American like, have kind of gone to a variant of that mostly. And I have a mini starter in my Pontiac. You know, it's made by an American company. But it is, it's a gear reduction starter. So when they do the gear reduction, Chrysler's always had a gear reduction. They can make more torque at a lower RPM to turn that engine. And like with the big Chrysler engines, you needed that. Yeah. Unlike the Chrysler's, these one, after the cost starts, they don't, they don't whine for like 20 minutes later. Yup, yup, I gotcha. And also the reason that they're all going that direction is probably because of that, um, torque stop technology. When you come to the stop sign and it shuts off. Well, it certainly helps. They've been doing it before that. It certainly does help. And that technology, you know, there's a separate battery in the car for that. Is there? I wasn't aware of that. Oh yeah, there's a separate battery for the start stop. So yeah, when people, when they start going bad and people are going to say, you know, I mean, I know, truthfully, I don't know where to find, you know, because I don't work on a lot of new new cars. So I wouldn't know where to find that battery. I'd have to look it up. But I know that there's two of them. Wow. I think a lot of them are under the back seat now. Some are in the trunk compartment. Oh yeah, conveniently located. Yeah, right. Always. Yeah. Well, I think I brought this up on a call a few weeks back, I had to do the battery and my wife's fort escape into 2016. Yeah. And it's buried so far under the cow by the windshield. Yeah. What should have taken 10 minutes to do was like 40. I know some of them are absolutely ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. It is truly the truth. Oh, by the way, the movie Jim chimed in on the on the text at 203-670-4127. The movie is called They Live. Yeah, there you go. Thank you. Yep. Rowdy Rowdy Piper. Nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, very good. Cool stuff. Thank you. I don't know if it's a top-down day for you because well, you're going to feel more on this light walk. It's hot. Yeah. You're going to bake if you do. Yeah. Come on. It's awesome. Top-down. But I'll tell you something. I went out last night at about midnight to throw some stuff in a recycling bin. It was like in the mid-70s. And just this nice warmth. A bit of a breeze like, "Oh, I'm going to go take the car out for a drive now. Drop the top and just go for a drive now." Good thinking. It's early morning and then later evening. That's when you want to go out. Unless you're Chris. I got you. I walked out. I took a shower this morning. I had somebody coming to give me an estimate on offense. And the guy looked at me and goes, "Are you okay?" Because I was literally dripping. And I said, "Yeah, I'm fine. I could do this in January, too, if it's warm enough, but just sweat a lot." He didn't ask you why he had a towel wrapped around you? I was going to say, "You know, Chris goes out in this weather, but he has to have someone else come over to drive his Chrysler so that he can lay on the hood and bask in the heat." "Yeah. Lots of sunscreen. Just don't put it on the underneath side." There you go. Now, the car doesn't like that. It's not good at all. All right, John. Well, thanks for the call, brother. It's good to talk to you as always. Likewise, right? Likewise, right? Right. Great rest of your day. Cruising around. All right, John. Thanks, John. Yeah. All right. Bye-bye. It's safe. All righty. Yes. 5165727440 is the phone number, so yeah. Yes. Yes. I've come to realize I am better at sewing than I am at welding, which are kind of compatible things. It's like, you know, because they say when you weld, sometimes you have to stitch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very true. So what did you, how did that happen? So, during the week, I have an issue with the armrest on the Explorer, and it seems to be an ongoing problem with these cars where the seam that separates the top of the armrest from the side of the armrest splits, and the armrest kind of separates like a banana peel. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like looking for other door panels to see if I can swap it out, and all the door panels that I was seeing that were for sale or in salvage hours all had the same split. Sure. So I'm like, okay, what do I do? So I went to, of course, we all go to Google now, and I went there, and there was a video on how to stitch it using literally needle and thread. Is this, just let me ask you a question. Is this armrest like molded into the panel? Yeah. Pretty much. I like buying that are screwed on separately. Right. Okay. This is molded in. I got you. And what, what it looks like is, of course, within the plastic itself, it looks like it stitched. Yeah. It's a fake molded stitch affair. Ah. But to use that, maybe it's a glued theme. Yeah. So to use that to your advantage, you literally lay the thread when you sew it within those stitches. Okay. And within the fake stitches, you actually put a, as long as using the same color, thread. Right. And it's, you can't see it. It's literally, it blends right in. And I, of course, the video shows you the way to run the thread so you don't see the threads over, obviously you're not bringing the thread over the armrest, you go working within the inside of it and, and working back and forth to close it with the, with the, that, what would you say, sewing technique? Yeah. Did you use a thicker thread than like a regular, did you use a regular fabric? Actually, it was an nylon thread and, yeah, it was a little thicker. Okay. Yeah. It makes sense. And you had to get the right needle, of course. Curve needle. Curve needle, yeah. You use a straight one. That's right. I mean, you could use a straight one. No, no, no, but the curve needle is a lot easier. Yeah. And, and I worked on the, on this day, was like, when was it, was either Wednesday or something? You had the door panel. You had the panel off. Right. Nope. Did it right on the car. How'd you get behind it? If it was on the car? I took the door skin off. That's how I did it. No. And the window out. You couldn't do it that way because there was the stuffing. The padding was in there too. Yeah. So you literally had to work like a dentist. Okay. You had to get in the, to get the back molar type of thing. You had to weave it through back and forth while it was on the car, but you always working in the mouth. You're working within the material itself. Did you take any pictures of this operation? Two pictures. Well, send them to me so that I can include them in our, in our, you know, post. Okay. So that was the success. It looks incredible. It looks like it's fine. It's fine. Nice. For what we're doing. It's great. Now the failure. Okay. I decided to try and reattach that bracket on the tracker. The tracker has a sway bar and one of the sway bar brackets had busted off. Yeah. It just rotted there. It's the only rot under this vehicle is there at that sway bar. That bracket rotted and broke free from the frame. So I got under there, cleaned everything off and went after it with my tack welder. Uh-huh. That's what, it's like what I call it. It's just an old arc welder that just, just makes a lot of sparks and, and, and a lot of flashing material it does. And I tried to weld that once again, because I've tried once before, cleaned it all off, made it look real pretty, spent with, spent my time on it and then started welding away. I got to the end of the driveway before I cut the wheel and I heard bang. Yeah. Yeah. Could it be that you didn't get to the really good, clean metal? It's sparkled a lot. It's sparkled a lot. Yeah. Well, that'll do it. That'll do it. So you know what you need? You need. You are. You can get some free PDQ checking. No. Right. Sure. Why not? You download the app and click Win Stuff, that button, and you'll enter the win a WPA, and not WPDQ. That's true. WPDQ. Check in radio. Check in radio. No, you'll enter, you'll enter the win at PDQ Beach Prize Pack, including a $25 gift card to PDQ, which stands for people dedicated to quality. And win. And they have locations in Westbury and Farmingdale. I have had that chicken. It is phenomenal. So download the free app and good luck to the WHPC app. Now we move on to the weather and oh yeah, our weather is sponsored by does bagels with locations in Garden City Park, Freeport, Levitown, and now open on 7th Street in Garden City. Nice area. Today, what a mess. It was already 90 when I was coming in here. They say, partly cloudy early in the day followed by scattered thunderstorms, storms may be severe. I saw some yesterday on my way up to the North Shore tonight, cloudy with occasional rain showers, low of 74. As I was going up north, my thermometer and the car said 90 with his downpour all of a sudden. And I watched it go 86, 84. It was like watching airplane gate nine, gate 10, air, air lingus, air, no, and it was like 74. I went down like 74 degrees, almost 20 something degrees in literally minutes. That's how fast. So tonight they'll be down occasional rain, low in the 70s, only convertible drop top weather if you're of a hearty sort today, like you, me, I would take a call with a roof or leave the top up on the convertible until later on. So with that, do we have an honor group of the hour to share? Speaking of the weather, of course we do right here at Motorbout Radio, the honor group of the hour, the people that we honor this week are, we know it's early in the summer season, as we can tell, as we've been talking about, and if you've already been scarred by sitting on hot pleather seats while wearing shorts, are your, the back of your thighs red and raw from bouncing around the front seat for the first minute after getting in the vehicle? Okay. Put your hands on the steering wheel yet. Now it's too hot. Can't put your arm on the top of the door. Now it's too hot too, if you're already priced limo tint or cloth seat covers, do you activate the self-starter with your conditioner already turned on? So that's complete and ready to go. Well if you determine that you'll be giving up driving until the skin body plastic surgery heals, then you are part of the Motorbout Radio on a group of hours this week. That's real. Yeah, that is real. That's, we've been living with that. You know, we grew up with that. We don't know what a vinyl seat is, you know, very true. It can be dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get in there after a beach day. Yeah. Any day. Any day. So yeah. So keep it where you got it. Motorbout Radio, we'll be back in a few minutes. We'll play a couple of spots here and we'll be back with more. I have a story to tell you about something that hit the dealerships this week that was kind of concerning. And we'll also have another failure that I'd like to discuss because my failures are only once. 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And Chris, I want to tell you about something harrowing that happened this week that has a lot of people up in arms, and I haven't heard any more about it. Dealerships got hacked. The software got hacked. I heard something about this. Tell me more. You know, Ronnie was telling me that you couldn't get any ROs written, cars couldn't be fixed, because they didn't have a computer system to either log the car in, get the parts, build the customer. He says they were getting receipts on handwritten receipts on pieces of paper for parts. And there was an article in the paper. I was waiting to see a follow-up. I haven't seen it yet. They said it was the second disruption in two days from their software vendor, which is CDK. Oh, maybe this is what I was thinking about cybersecurity. I knew I'd read something in the last few days that I thought I'd go over it. The general manager of a dealership group in Frederick, Maryland, and his store CDK customers, the related software, they had been announced since Wednesday morning, and he had a couple of quotes, but the thing that they didn't say that I got from the people I talked to was they, somebody, they hacked it and they're holding it for ransomware. That wasn't written in this article. It was just, well, our IT teams are working on finding the error and fixing the glitch, you know, a lot of office space. Yeah. I don't think they're going to tell you about ransomware and articles, bad for business. Yeah. They didn't report on that. You know what? Suffolk County was hit with major, a major thing like that just last year, and they wanted millions of dollars in ransomware. And of course, all eyes went on the ID IT department like, hey, what are you guys doing? You're supposed to be providing us with, you know, cybersecurity and net support and what not. And of course, everybody's like, Ah-ha-man-ah-man-ah-man-ah-man-ah-man-ah. And they're still working through that one to see what happened. But of course, the thing is, you know, you really, it's kind of like, you know, you don't want to pay that ransomware because once you do, you've now opened yourself up for, oh, you know what? Well, the 12 million wasn't enough. You better send another 22. Right. You're vulnerable at that point. You're real vulnerable. You've already shown. I'm a big fan of backups. Back it up. Just back it up. It doesn't take that long. Well, that, of course. Yeah. Backups, of course. But this... Just back it up. That's it. Redundancy. But that's... See, but that... You're right. You're right. My niece about this. She had a phone issue where she's basically locked out of all her phones and can't get into her software because the passwords, she had them saved on the phone, which was not the best security platform to do it and, you know, but anyway, regardless. So she's having a big go around. And she called AOL, who was her original provider. And they still had her information and said, yeah, even though... Every 30 years. I know you haven't been active, for all these years, we still have it and we can provide you assistance for a fee. So now AOL is making money and it was only like 15 bucks. So it was like, it was worth it and they helped her out. But the thing is too, even with the backup, even if you were able to back up and reinstate, the hackers are still watching you. If they hack you once, if you haven't done anything with your security, they're going to hack you again. Maybe this time they'll really send the spike ball down to the lower road, you know? Keep your passwords always fluid, always change them. Like every 90 days, every 120 days, always do that and always backup stuff. Yeah. Now the problem. Update your software. I mean, it's... Well, now the problem is with, I mean, everything you do now requires passwords and logins and double authentication. I just went on, I got an email from Social Security Administration, hey, view your file. Okay. I went in and did it. Now they said, hey, you know what, we have a new thing. We want to use this secure sign in, you know, through ssa.gov. And we, you know, if you like, follow the link. So I did it. So now I had to make another username, another password, which is now what I'll sign. And they had like four ways to verify on double verification. So one was, okay, they'll email you with a number, a text number, great. The second one was you have a backup email address, then they had one, if you had a government ID, you could use that, which I don't. And there was a fourth one, which I don't recall. And then I said, you know, told my wife this morning, I said, but if you have, if they're either going to send you a text or an email, and the only way you check that is on your phone, and now your phone is down, you can't interact. You know, I've had that happen at times where I made an account on whatever way it could have been in the local doctor's office or the hardware store. And I didn't want to bother me, so I put the home phone number in. Yeah. Okay, here's a phone number. Now they, on a login, where there was a problem, you know, we'll send you a text to, like, you can't send the text that number, and now at that point, you can't tell them, no, you can't do that, use this number, now you're locked in. So anyway, the dealership network, I hope it recovers. I hope they don't pay and they get some good IT guys to fix the problem. So, no, that's, that's evil. So that was their failure. Tell me, tell me about your failure. I was, I want to change the serpentine belts on the Mazda. Okay. And you think serpentine belts, this shouldn't be a problem. First of all, I ordered the parts through, one, I ordered through Mazda parts. I can't remember which dealership it was. It's a mail order dealership. I think they're down in North South Carolina. I've done that with the Mazda in the Toyota, gotten stuff right from the dealer at a good price, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the other one, I actually had to order from Amazon. Well, of course, the Mazda belt shows up and it's, it's in an envelope. It's got a, an invoice paper, invoice attached to it, so you know, where it came from, and it's the right belt. The Amazon one shows up in an envelope, just a belt. And it's wrong. Now, you have two belts, you have a serpentine and a regular belt for the AC, right? Serpentine and a power steering. Oh, power steering. The AC is separate. Yeah. Now the power steering one is a stretch belt. Okay. I was going to ask you, my Mazda had a SERP and the AC was separate, and that's the stretch to fit. And there's a tool that you can buy. Right. And there's also zip ties because I first, yeah, I saw that. I saw that. I heard the tool is sketchy at best, so I haven't bought the tool yet. Joe and I did that on my car with a piece of plastic garbage we found on the floor. Because we got that belt on, but it was one car, one tooth off, and we couldn't walk it over easily. So we found this piece of plastic and we bent it. And with two of us working, we actually walked it in and got it. I do have this tool too somewhere. Did you serve that piece of garbage? No, I have the tool. The real tool. Oh, the real tool. I couldn't get it to work because the spacing wasn't right. But I was trying to use it on the front of the pulley. I did see something later on that showed, like, using it through the back. So I'm like, okay, I guess the instructions were not exist, and so that didn't help me. And I wasn't smart enough to figure it out. Well, this is a little different, but along those same lines. But I, so since I ordered the other belt, the serpentine belt, I get the correct one. I send the wrong one back. Now I have two of the correct belts. So I'm going to start the job. Now I noticed that the tensioner on the serpentine belt moves one way, doesn't move the other way, the way it should. Uh oh. Yeah, exactly. Uh oh. I'm like, all right, that's going to stop me again. That's also a good thing to change when it's now you got it. Now I'm looking at that. There's just a little tick marks on it with a, because that shows you the life of the of the tensioner. So now I'm thinking to myself, that's got to go. Yeah. So I have not done the belt yet, but now here's the funny thing. It's like working on a belt, working on a serpentine, a power steering belt that you're surrounded by the fender and the inner structure of the vehicle. It is truly a two man job. And I'm only by myself in this. Now you do it through the wheel well, right? So you have to, you have to literally pop the passenger wheel off and take that access angle. Take the liner off. Oh yeah. Yeah. Right. Now you get to see the bottoms of the belt. Right. Right. Just the bottoms. Yeah. Yeah. To get to see the top of the belt, you got to go down. You got to pull the reservoir out. Yep. I got it. And now get in that way. Yep. So you're constantly, you need like a rain a tango to get, so now mind you, in order to move that, that tensioner in order to get the belt off, you can't reach down there. You can't do it. You need one of those long screwdrivers to slide it off that way. And I'm thinking to myself, okay, great, I can get that off. Now how in the world do you get it back on? So I'm going to need like another pair of hands to move that tensioner so I can slip the belt on so I can crouch down by their knees and put that whole belt on. You need a locking belt tensioner tool is what you need. A locking belt tensioner tool, exactly. That's exactly what I need. I'm going to drill a hole. And it's so funny because Harbor Freight has got a really tall one with the, with the 3/8, um, I would just say drive, really tail extension, so you can just slip it in and just bend it. You have a ton of leverage. Sure. So I'm going to, I'm going to grab one of those straight from Harbor Freight, go grab one of those. And they have the, uh, the tensioner is on order should be getting that. You see, I would have recommended if you were going to do the set that you went to like a company like Gates and bought the tensioner and belt together because they match their parts. They're really good about that's what they do. That's their job. Well, I went to Mazda and I got the Mazda part. I didn't. What do you do? What do you do with the tensioner? Who'd you go to? No, the tensioner is also the Mazda. Okay. I find that's good. I didn't. I was thinking, you know, it's so funny because a lot of times you're in my head. So, I'm sitting there ordering and I can get the one for $30 and go and save myself a ton of cash or I can get the Mazda part for $126. I thought to myself, I don't ever want to do this job again. No, but, but Gates is a very, very good, um, alternative. They said they're a belt company. They've been doing it for years. Yeah. Right. No, I totally agree. And I'm sure there's probably Gates belts on that thing already, but, but I wanted to go. I wanted to go full Mazda on this because it was one of those jobs I'm looking at. I'm like, oh, and I think to myself, how many jobs have you done that have ball starts? Oh, yeah. When you're starting, you can't finish. It's happened. Yeah. Yeah. It happened. So that's, that's basically what I did. I had the wheel off the car and then I had the, the panel off. I'm like, uh, the worst is the, it, like, the further you get into it. Into the job when that full start occurs makes it worse because now you've taken more things apart and now you're forced to stop for whatever reason. Yeah. There's always that line in the sand that point of no return. The demarcation line. Yeah. Yeah. But once you cross it, you can't cross back. Right. And when it comes down to that power steering belt, which is a stretch belt, you have to cut the old belt off. That's right. Yes. You do. And then hang the new one. So once you cut that old belt off, you're done. Done. Yeah. Oh, I know, which I think a stretch belt has got to be the silliest thing. You know, when I did that job on my Mazda, I was at the shop, I think on a Saturday and I did the surf belt and I cut the AC belt too often. And then I couldn't get the AC belt to fit, but I couldn't make the tool work. So it just meant I drove and I didn't have an AC compressor, big deal. I think I did it in like February, you know, so it didn't matter. I was able to revisit it and then fix it. So yeah, but power steering, you have to have. Yeah. Kind of needed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The stretch belt saved the money, saved them a lot of money on just the mechanical components made to make something adjust inside the engine compartment. You know, now that pump is fixed and, you know, or the crank is fixed and, you know, they made the belt, the variable thing, which was kind of brilliant. However, you know, some guy, he probably worked for Sansa Belt and how he was working at Gates. Well, good year. And he says, you know, I got an idea about these belts. It really worked once. Can it work again? And you know what, they do work. They really, but they say like they've said to some people will force off a stretch belt and they say, if you do force it off, don't reinstall it. Even though you might be able to get it back on, it won't retain the right shape and it'll probably slip. You know what? Belt flip all the time. So in a pinch, you do what you've got to do. And they're starting to get a little shiny on the on the threads, I guess you say the groove grips. Yeah, the groove. They're not, thankfully the belts aren't, they're not dry rod yet, but they're starting to get a little glaze and you're starting to get the swish noise. Right, right, right. As as it idols. And I'm like, it's about time, but I didn't think that it was going to be a stretch belt or I was going to have issue with an idler. It's a sovereignty belt. I mean, they're amazing. You always have to take into consideration that you have very little room to move around in there. And I remember even the cheap that I had that Oh, a compass, very little room to work in that. Same thing, pop the passenger wheel, get the access panel off it, but everything was adjustable. This not so much. And there is no room. There is absolutely no room to work. Right. It is truly going to be an aggravating gig. So, and I'm just glad that it's warm. I don't mind it. When jobs like this, when you have a nice aggravating gig and you know, you got, you're going to have to get in there and suck it up, I would much rather have it hot than cold. Yeah, you know, you're going to be clunking your knuckles on something jobs like this. You know, there's going to be a, you're going to get pinched. I thought about that. You know, yesterday I brought my impeller into the shop in the morning. I did an oil change. I haven't done them in a while and I wanted to do a brake flush because, you know, I like to do that every couple of years too. And it was just, it was hot, even with the fans on it, I said, you know, I was going to pull the wheels so I could get to the caliper's easier by saying, you know what, I didn't even, once I got them off, I was like, I don't know if I had the strength to put them back on. So, I left the wheels on. You did it on the lift. It just came up, doing it from behind is easy on that car, there's plenty of room. But yeah, it's, you got to, you got to pick and choose when you do stuff without a doubt. So speaking of which, you had to check engine light on the, and it cleared and it was a bad code too. It was that it was like one of the ECN codes. Yeah. The next day it was gone. I noticed yesterday, really, I noticed yesterday, what did I do? I drove the car, took it to the shop. I think when I, when I was leaving the shop, I think I started, I saw the check engine light was on again, and then it went out. So I don't know, something is playing, something is probably just, it's a false, it's a false reading is what it is. Okay, we take them bets, what's the better returns, let's, well, I say yes. Oh yeah, yeah, you never know, right? Yeah. No, I do know. I'm saying it's going to return. Well, let's say, let's go to phones and say, hi, you're always with the motor mouths. The mechanical brain surgeons. Well, yeah, brain cell surgery. Yeah. Yeah, gentlemen. What's up, Bob? Good. All right. All right. Okay, the question of the day is really simple. Okay. Okay. So you did an oil change in the Impala. Uh huh. All right. I'm familiar with that engine. Great engine. Yeah. It's an LT1 with a 4L60E. Oh, it's great. It's a, it's a, it's a perfect match. And I know it's going both part like their thing and the guys in board like their thing, but that's Chevy. Yeah. And the engine trainee thing is just amazing. I agree. Yeah. Um, so the question is, how many miles on the oil change? Oh, way too many. All right. Well, this, this is the, this is, this is not Judge Judy. Okay. We want this radio. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It was two miles. It was too much time. Okay. Uh, because I don't drive the car. So it sits and man, yeah, it was, it was, you know, it was a couple of years that I changed. But I only have 23 miles on the 23,000 miles on the car. So I'm obviously not driving it. Yeah. It was way too long. All right. You know, but so anyway, next question. Next question is this is the drum roll because of all the guests you've had on the show. Yeah. All right. And oil. Right. What were they? I used Penn's oil, oil and a Fram filter and I pre-filled the filter as always and was a little upset to see the Fram oil, they charged me like almost eight bucks a quart. And I said, what? I was at the local water parts store by me and I said, that's what like high zinc oil cost. He goes, no, this stuff went up. I told him, I said, I just bought five quarts of high zinc oil at Walmart last week for twenty nine dollars. So shame on me for not, you know, getting the oil ahead of time. I could have and I should have, but I didn't. So you pay up. Yeah. I had recently shopped a little bit too for for that long, the same lines as you and I refused to pay it. I wasn't going to pay it. Yeah. You just, you know, Walmart by, by us around here, there's like this really two Walmart's that are nearby in this area we're at now. One is in Uniondale, one's in East Meadow. And East Meadow one is the one I prefer. It's, you know, usually stocked a little bit of the Uniondale. One's tends to get a little trashed sometimes. They don't really keep up with the restocking, but the prices are very good. And everybody I know has found that secret. Yeah, you want oil? Go to Walmart. It's, you know, it's true. Well, that was something you were here. That was something you had shared. And obviously earlier on in our, in our new cars, et cetera, say for, say for 10 years on, we, we use our preference and my preference happened to have been at the time, a GTX 2050 or. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Some, you know, something similar to that. Everyone has their brands, but listening to your program and your guys, I've gone over and I have a, I have used the house brand for the Walmart. Super tech. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not, not, not for all the cars. The two of the cars I have to use. Oil specific. I've used it also, Bob. Yeah. And oil specific for two of the cars and then for my other oil changes, I have no problem using the house brands. Right. Yeah. I agree. We're, we're in agreements on all that. Absolutely. So for the miles driven, you need to do it at a regular interval. Like I said, I was remiss, but I knew it and I knew I was, but, you know, what are you going to do? These, uh, we're not all, we're not all perfect, but the thing is we'll tell you we're not perfect. Well, I did all day today. That's why we tune, that's why we tune you two brain surgeons in. That's the difference between us and other shows. We will tell you we're not perfect and we'll give you examples. Exactly. Don't be like us. Have your, uh, listeners are in the same boat. Exactly. Great. Thanks, Bob. All right. Bye bye. Thanks, Bob. Bye bye. Yes. Today. Yeah. I, I definitely showed my hand as far as all the failures. Yeah. Hey, you know, I had, uh, I had sent a message on Instagram to our good friend, Alana, share earlier in the month, uh, we were just going back and forth about her transam. I said, Hey, why don't you come back on the show? We'll talk about it. And she goes, you know, I'd love to. That'd be great. She was, but you know, let's make it later in June because she was traveling, do some stuff. She goes, I said, all right, I'll reach out to you. So I, I sent her another message and asked her and I guess, you know, she wasn't ready yet, but, um, hopefully she'll go back to me and we'll get her on. I told her, you know, if it isn't June, we'll get you in in July and we'll, we'll talk about stuff, uh, what to do with this coast. Yeah. Definitely. Big fan of, uh, her incident, uh, Instagram page is challenged her. Right. Right. Yes. We'll check in every once in a while. Yeah. To see what she's doing. So now we can challenge the listeners to see if they can stay through the spots and be tuned in to Kim for Thunder Road because she's coming up in about a minute and, uh, I'm going to go out into the, uh, heat and drive home and do some upload stuff and Chris, you keep hot and toasty this week. I know that's how you like it. That's the way I like it. And we'll be back. Why don't we tell people waiting for me out in a lot in the, in the heat? Don't follow us on and wear something that blows off easily unless you have any air condition. All right. So we'll be back with more motor mouth radio, Ray Guarmino, Chris Switzer, next week. Keep where you got it on 90.3 WHPC. See ya. Thank you both. See ya.