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Rasslin’ W/ Ryan Hernandez

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12 Aug 2024
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Let's lace them up! It's time for Dodger Baseball! Time to put it up for the buzzer! Benjamin Haha! He fakes in the dream! And the Lakers win the game! We're the tier in my eye! This is the greatest moment in my life. She was wearing a strap on and she was plowing our neighbor by green wall and folks I do mean right in the ass! Fastball misses! Dress low, count goes four, three and two! What is going on everybody? Welcome to another edition of the LASIMUP Podcast Wrestling Edition. My name is Mike Andrade. And alongside from last week, my guest host introduced herself. What's up, you all? It's Ryan Hernandez. Welcome to the second episode of the LASIMUP Wrestling Podcast. Hey, sir! Haha! Have you been Ryan? No, I've been doing good. You know, just enjoying these last few, last few couple of weeks before I head off back to school. Head off back to school. We're going to give everybody an RKL and an attitude adjustment? Yeah. Alright. That's good. So, we are coming off the heels off of SummerSlam. Did you watch SummerSlam Ryan? Yes, I did watch SummerSlam. I watched it live and I watched it from start to finish. What did you think of it? I honestly thought it was perfect from top to bottom. I thought the show was all hits and no misses. Yeah, you know, I thought the same thing too, you know. I think from top to bottom. If the match hit, you know, they delivered on what they're supposed to do. I don't think there was any bad match per se, you know. People kind of crapped on the Bayley and Nia Jax match. But, you know, all things considered, I think that still was a good match. For me, the top matches from the show was, we'll see them punk versus Drew McIntyre. That was the top match for me. Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people saying like, oh, that match wasn't great. From a technical standpoint, it's like that wasn't the point of the match. It told the story. And that's what made the match great, you know, because sometimes for matches, you don't always need it to be a, you know, a technical like showcase. Sometimes just telling the story goes a long way in a match. Exactly. Exactly. You know, telling the story, you know, this, this feud between punk and McIntyre. Has been going on since basically CM Punk returned to WWE. So you talk about the better part of this year, mostly all this year, eight months. And so thinking of that, you see the six months that they build eight months that they built with CM Punk and Drew McIntyre. They have done a beautiful job with building that story, getting the attention. You haven't seen a blood feud at WWE in a really long time. The ones that we're seeing of Drew McIntyre and CM Punk. Right? Yeah, I agree. You know, punk and McIntyre feud has been, you know, top feud of this entire year, even when punk was on the shelf and he was still able to, you know, like. To hype it up because of how good punk is on the, on the mic that just gave him a microphone and, you know, he'll make magic. Exactly. Yeah. And Drew has stepped up his game last year or so, you know, if you were asked me a year ago, two years ago that Drew McIntyre could be the top little heel that he is right now. I wouldn't think so because I wouldn't have thought that his microphone skills, his promo skills were that top notch. But he has shown over the last year, so that he is incredible on the microphone. He is a great heel. So tops off to my hat is drawn out with respect to these guys. They've done a great job. So what do you think going forward for the WWE? Like, what do you think is going to happen over the next couple months? I definitely think at a bad blood, we see punk versus McIntyre too. Yeah. Whether there's a stipulation or not. I think the match is going to, you know, live up to the expectations. I know everybody was like, oh, see a punk's wash. He can't go anymore. But we saw in the match, like, not punk, punk can still go. You know, like, sure, he may not be what he used to be. But he, he can still go. He can still put on a solid match when needed. So, and then, you know, passion, Berlin's coming up. They already got confirmed two matches. And they're versus Randy for the world's heavyweight championship. And then Tony will have no one's for the WWE championship. Exactly. I think those are going to be two solid matches. And I guess what I saw earlier, or has confirmed. I think it's confirmed that it's going to be. Rhea Ripley and Damian Priest versus Liv Morgan and. Dominic Mysterio at fashion Berlin. Yeah. So see how that turns out. I definitely think. We see Roman versus solo or. If not Roman versus solo, we'll see Roman versus a member of the bloodline. Yeah, I think you can definitely see all those matches per se. It's going to be interesting going forward with the judgment day. What they do with that. You know, is it going to, are they still going to be hot with Finn Balor, basically being the leader of the judgment day with. You know, Carlito and. Dirty Tom and Liv Morgan. So it'll be, see what. And don't forget JD McFunko pop. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a lot of exciting things in WWE right now going forward. You can fantasy book your way. So you can start fantasy booking your way to WrestleMania. At this point, you know, because we're done with summer. Now we're starting to see what the. What the, you know, the mold is going to be heading into the biggest point. Of WWE season, which is heading into the road of WrestleMania. So definitely you could see the shaping of the bloodline. Civil war coming up at survivor series. Will the rock get involved. Cody has the rock been behind this the entire time. I mean, it's possible. It's possible that they're going to book it like that. You know, I think so. You can definitely probably see it. See it coming. Maybe the rock will be in Berlin. Who knows? Yeah, the rock is done filming this movie. So I heard it scheduled off is all cleared up now. So it's not a matter of. If it just matter of when, when will we see the rock. Exactly. Because. Exactly. Because the rocket went away, but you know, he's not done with the storyline yet. So it's very possible that he can be behind the new, the new bloodline with. So as the, the tribal chief. And remember, before he left, he did, he did tell Cody. He's like. He's like, when I come back, I'm coming for that referring to the championship. Exactly. Exactly. Well, all things considered. It's a great time to be a wrestling candidate, WWE. But today we are talking about the greatest of all time. Yeah. My man, John Cena, we are going to go over his top 10 matches of his career in our, in our opinions. Exactly. So we are continuing the talk of John Cena as last week. You should go out and listen to our podcast of John Cena's upcoming 2025 retirement. So if you haven't listened to that, definitely check that out. But Ryan, we have both created top 10 lists. And so let's get into it. What is your top 10? Well, let's go. All right. We'll both, we'll both talk about our member techs. Okay. So what's yours? My, my number 10 is a John Cena versus edge at unforgiven 2006. Oh, in their TLC match. Because I think, you know, Cena and Edge had a great rivalry and feud for years, but I think out of all their matches, that was, that was their top match. That's the one that always stood out to me for their rivalry. I think that's the match. Most fans think of when they think of John Cena versus Edge. That's funny because I have that, I have that match way down on my list. Way down. Like I would say with number, but I haven't weighed down on my list, but I agree. I mean, you know, that match. I think one of the first times that you really looked at John Cena in a different way. I think that's when people started to see like, wait, this guy actually can wrestle like. Exactly. You know, because he's to get criticized and inherent chance of all, you can wrestle. But, you know, there's a reason JBL caused a big match, John, because he steps up. When it comes to big matches. Exactly. And that was one of the first times you really saw John Cena step up in a big way. My number 10 is John Cena versus Kevin Owens at the elimination chamber in 2015. So that match to me is one of the first times that you really saw John Cena be really giving with his career. And Kevin Owens coming in, he was NXT champion at that point. A couple of weeks before that on Rod, Kevin Owens came in interrupted John Cena. Well, actually, you didn't interrupt. It was a John Cena invitational. What he used to do with the United States championship. And we all thought we're going to see Kevin Owens versus John Cena that night, but Kevin Owens is like, no, no, no, no. We're going to do it on my time still holding the NXT championship and they ended up doing it. At the elimination chamber, which it was a banger of a match. And you saw the NXT champion, Kevin Owens go over on the 16 time world champion John Cena, who was currently holding the United States title. So one of the first times that you saw John Cena be really giving with his career. And then, you know, having Kevin Owens go over really set the stage for what has been a Hall of Fame career for Kevin Owens. Yeah, especially with that being Kevin Owens first match on the main roster and he beat Cena clean. It's like, at least back then, I was like unheard of because it's like, you know, John Cena, he's the face of the company, he always goes over. So the fact that a new guy, the NXT champion is going over, you know, John Cena, it's just like, oh, wow, like this guy has it. You know, surprisingly, I do not have that match in my personal top 10. But I do agree, it is an amazing match. Yeah, definitely. And you're right about that because normally during the Vince McMahon era of WWE, you would always see if he was going to win, they're going to go over cheating. They never got over cleanly with the top baby face. So for Kevin Owens to go over cleanly on the top baby face, not on the top baby face, the top, the top guy in WWE at that time. The last 10 years at that point is really remarkable. So who is your number nine? My number nine is John Cena versus Triple H at WrestleMania 22 for the WWE Championship. Okay. Yeah, I love you on that. And I know, like, you know, for guys like Cena and Triple H who may not be the most technically sound and gifted wrestlers, I thought they gave us a really sound technical addressing match at WrestleMania 22. And I think that was like in the midst of when they're like, oh, you know, John Cena can't wrestle blah, blah, blah, like, you know, he can't, he can't hang with the top guy. And that was also another one of those matches where John Cena really stepped up and showed like, no, when it matters most, I can go toe to toe with the best of them. Exactly. Yeah, definitely. I don't have that match in my top, but I definitely, it's simply, you know, honorable mention. I remember watching that WrestleMania. And that was really one of the first times that you saw John Cena get booed. I was one of the first times I saw him get booed in that arena. You know, Triple H was the heel in that program going in, but the fans in Chicago love Triple H at that point. And they really wanted to see Triple H win the WWE Championship. And so to see John Cena come out, he came out with, was it the 1920s. I mean, it's the, I mean, I was the only one with the extras. Exactly. That was pretty cool. But that was one of the first times that I saw John Cena get booed, but also get over in a way that, you know, that the company was going to push him going forward. You know, the company was definitely, that was one of the first times that you saw Super Cena come out because before that, John Cena was the baby face getting cheered. But up until that point, you knew John Cena was going to win this match. I didn't think that John Cena was going to win. I thought Triple H was going to win. And surprising at all, John Cena won that match. And, you know, it's for the first times where you're like, damn, this guy, like, they are really pushing this guy to the move. So good match. See here. You're at number nine. Cena versus AJ Styles at SummerSlam 2016. Oh, well, great match. Great map. You know, I think so we had saw John Cena versus AJ Styles at Money in the Bank previously. And just like the Kevin Owens situation, you had AJ Styles go over on John Cena during that, you know, during that match and money in the bank. But it wasn't cleanly. So going into SummerSlam, we all expected John Cena to get his comeuppance on AJ Styles, but AJ Styles, you know, coming into the company at Royal Rumble during that time. You know, he was the guy from TNA, the guy from New Japan, you know, the guy that made his mark, not in WWE, probably the best wrestler at that point to not come over to WWE. But he did at the Royal Rumble in 2015. So fantasy booking. I remember as a kid watching TNA, I would always think about what if AJ Styles were to wrestle John Cena. Now that fantasy match was taking place here at WWE at Money in the Bank, AJ Styles getting over. I think the, the OC helped the AJ Styles win that match. If my mind is not mistaken. And then you go into SummerSlam, AJ Styles and John Cena just put on an absolute banger of a match. And then, you know, WWE surprisingly has AJ Styles go over again. And that's really remarkable because you would think WWE would want John Cena to get his comeuppance since he lost, you know, he got cheated out of the win the month before. No, that's not the way it happened. They had, they established a new big star in AJ Styles, and it really took AJ Styles to the next level on WWE. Right. Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree. I surprisingly do not have that match in my top 10, an honorable mention for sure. I do have a John Cena, AJ Styles matching my top 10, but we'll get to that later. But yeah, and then my going into my number eight match, I actually have John Cena versus Evan Owens at Money in the Bank 2015. And the reason I have that match specifically is because that's when, you know, John Cena started pulling out like, you know, moves you've never seen him pull off before. I remember when he hit a sunset flip power bomb and the crowd was like, whoa, what? And even the commentaries were shocked like, wait, what was that? And I was shocked too. I was just like, I didn't know a guy like John Cena could pull off a move like that because that is not an easy move to pull off. Not at all. Especially with him, especially with him being a powerhouse that's not easy to pull off. But I like that match specifically because I think that's when we actually really started to see Cena really hit his stride as a technical wrestler. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. For about 10 years at that point, you know, John Cena had been the mainstay in WWE and people mocked him for having only five moves, the five moves to do. But in the mid 2010s, you know, up until maybe 2017, I feel like John Cena really hit his stride as a wrestler. And probably was that the peak of his wrestling ability, because he busted out during these matches, he busted out all kinds of moves that you would never see John Cena perform. Yeah, he did like he did a springboard stunner, her coronas, you know, a springboard DDT. Yeah. And then you know who drivers is just like, it was just incredible to see, you know, like, like, hey, like this guy, like most people kind of let the, oh, you can't wrestle get to them, but it was the guy like seen it's like, he took it and he ran with it. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So my number eight will be John Cena versus Omega at the Roy rumble in 2007. I have that higher on my list, we'll get there. Yeah, that match just simply put was brutal. They beat the living fuck out of each other. And those guys just went at it in a way that, you know, we had seen Cena be an aggressive brawling type before, but. The best out of that John Cena and then. So the ending of that match is what's most popular for that match is John Cena actually choked out Omega with the rope legitimately choked them out. You know, getting the win in that match. So thankfully, Omega was okay, but seen as actually choked him out with the rope. So that's pretty crazy. All right. So number seven on the list. What have you got, right? I have John Cena versus Seth. They're on that summer. Sam, 2015 in the title versus title match. And, you know, that's when Seth wore his famous all white gear, which I hope someday we see again. But that though, that match like going into it had a, you know, a powerful story. And you know, after, you know, the height of the century cashing in, being champion and being the guy. But, you know, you have seen it saying like you haven't proven that, you know, you're the guy you haven't really done anything to prove that you have it. You've had the authority on your backing and stuff. So seeing their challenges and like, you know, let's let's see if you got what it, what it takes and man, these, these two have amazing chemistry because they put on a classic match. You know, it is like it was truly back and forth like it came down. So like, oh my gosh, like who's going to win like he was actually unpredictable. Which is rare in WWE and, you know, certain matches is like, oh, it's so obvious. This person's going to go over, but this was a mattress like it's like any other one of them could win and it's just like, what's it going to take for, you know, one guy to beat the other guy. So I just thought this is another one that's seen as best technical matches. And I think this was for the startups of people saying that Seth is like, like that he's going to be a star. Right. Exactly. Yeah, no, that was a really, really good match at SummerSlam. Yeah. My only gripe with it is that John Stewart got involved. I thought that didn't really make any sense in the dream for it was like stupid. But, but aside from that, I did not take away how great the match was. The match was really good and I agree. It was stupid ending, you know, as well. So my top. Seven is John Cena versus Shawn Michaels at the WrestleMania 23 going into that match. You know, it was one of the cases again that everybody wanted to see Shawn Michaels become the WWE champion probably for the last time. If you were to win it. And then you have John Cena coming out, making a spectacular entrance in the car, busting through the glass. But then again, you know, it's Shawn Michaels, you know, people want to see him win. But you had John Cena coming up, you know, and people's expectations were, you know, can John Cena match up with a Hall of Famer like Shawn Michaels, you know, and Shawn Michaels, you know, still could go at that point. You know, with the best of them. What's that? Mr. WrestleMania for a reason. Exactly. So, to me, that that matches one of the first times where you're like, dang, like John Cena, like he's legit. Like, you know, not only like you've seen him in the ring with other guys before, but he's able to go toe to toe with Shawn Michaels coming out on top. You know, he's the man, like, you know, it's no food with this guy. You know, he can go, he put on a pay-per-view WrestleMania banger with John Michaels. This guy is genuinely the man. Yeah. And you can argue that Shawn Michaels is the greatest entering wrestler of all time. Because that, because Shawn Michaels, he just put on like classic after classic. There's a reason he was called Mr. WrestleMania, because he always stepped up big when he came to the biggest stage. Exactly. Yeah. So, going into my number, I actually have a match that you just said, I have John Cena vs. Umaga at the Royal Rumble in 2007. For a reason similar to yours, you know, how we, umaga really brought out the best of Cena. And I definitely thought, you know, there was, umaga's best match of his career, and it really showed umaga as a threat. But again, it's still solidified, you know, Cena being like the guy and the fact that I considered because it was the last main standing match, correct? Yeah, it was. I consider it to be the greatest last main standing match in history. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. Definitely. And I think, you know, going into it, fans are probably like, oh, I'm gonna destroy John Cena. Nobody can stop. Everybody can stop. You stop with manga. And then who would have thought that two powerhouses like them would put on a classic. Exactly. Nobody was really expecting a manga and seem to depend on a classic. In fact, on paper, you think, I don't know if these guys would mesh well together, but the fact, I mean, umaga, you know, was one of the most athletic. Big guys in company history. So, I mean, him putting him, but Cena, who was a powerhouse, they just meshed really, really well together and they beat the living. Kind of each other. Like I said, yeah, great match goes to. What's your number six, Mike? All right. I'm going to six is Cena versus JBL at Judgment Day, 2005. You know, at that point, John Cena had become the WWE champion at WrestleMania 21 the month before. You know, Cena was insanely over with the crowd still in his ergonomics days. Heading towards the tailor end of that, but. Even though he was over with the crowd, the jury was still out on how John Cena was as a performer. And I think in that match, you saw John Cena turning up to a level which we hadn't seen before in terms of him being a brawler. The brutality of it and he bled both those men blood buckets during that match. And it was a really entertaining main event. And I think it was one of the first times that you saw John Cena. You know, become. A slight slightly become the version of which we were going to see in the future. And it was a bang or a match. I just said, um, brutality up the rear and, um, yeah, it was highly entertaining. So that's why I put it up on that list so high. And I'm surprised. I'm surprised I didn't put that on my list. But yeah, that is a great match. I definitely will have it as part of my honorable mentions. So going into the top five now of. Of my top. And John Cena matches at number five. I have John Cena versus Sean Michaels at WrestleMania 23. A lot of reasons similar to yours, you know, it's a very technically sound match. It really solidifies John is, you know, like a legitimate wrestler. And it's like he's going head to head with arguably the greatest to ever do it inside the ring. And he gives the fans a one classic main event. It is like that is how a WrestleMania main event match should be. Exactly. Exactly. No, totally agree. Totally, totally agree. So then my number five is Cina versus Kevin Owens at Battleground 2015. Um, like you, like we just mentioned before, that match like brought out Cina, which we had never seen John Cena perform. Ever. You know, both those guys doing insanely technical moves. And they mess just so well together that match. If you haven't watched that match, I highly encourage you to go back and watch that match. Cause that honestly, like watching it, it's progressing at its finest. You know, you have the heel Kevin Owens doing everything you can to be a slime ball in that match. John Cena, you know, being the baby face he was at that point. Um, but both men just being incredible in the ring with each other, putting on art. You know, um, I think it's just, but pro wrestling is. Son of five to be, you know, it's art at its finest. Yeah. Sure. Kevin Owens and John Cena though, though. They are the definition of what you would call a wrestling soulmate. Those two had amazing chemistry. Those two never failed to put on a classic. Like they, they just mesh so well together. Like every, when you, when you were watching John Cena versus Kevin Owens, you knew you were getting something great. You knew you were going to get something special. Exactly. Oh, yeah. So my, so my number four is, um, John Cena versus Seth Rollins versus Brock Lesnar at Royal Rumble 2015 for the WWE Championship. Interesting choice. Which, um, many people argue and I, I definitely agree that, um, it is arguably the best triple threat match of all time. Like, you know, we already seen what Cena and Owens can do is, you know, his technicians. But really seeing Brock, we would, this is a side of Brock outing. Anybody's ever seen before. You know, like, he's known for being like this powerhouse. He's like, Oh, he just beat people up. But no, it is Brock actually showed like, no, he can wrestle too. When it, when it comes down to it, I just thought, you know, the storytelling match was great. Um, and I really thought it all three men shined and looked great. Even in defeat, I think seen and Rollins looked, looked like a million bucks. I remember Brock Lesnar going, like making his entrance to that match. And he just looked like a brick shit house, dude. He looked so fucking like, you, he was training. And, uh, a few months later, he would go back into the UFC. So you knew why. So my number four, which is probably a little too high for some people. It's John Cena versus AJ Styles at the Royal Rumble, 2017. Uh, this is where John Cena gets number 17, sorry, number 16. He gets number 16. Um, it's the culmination of a few from the prior year. Um, at that point in seeing that hadn't beaten AJ Styles at that point. Last at Money Bank, last at SummerSlam, they kind of went off into their different ways, but then they came back at the Royal Rumble. AJ Styles was WWE champion at that point. And if you thought the prior matches were, were great, you have to watch this match. This is probably John Cena's last great match, I would say. Like, like in total, if you think about it, this is his last great match. So, um, Cena being, you know, at that point, a tenured veteran, you wouldn't think that maybe he would get to the level that he did, but he rose probably for the final time in his career that, you know, to a level which you're thinking, man, this guy still has it. You know, like not only has it, but this guy's one of the best of all time. Yeah, I totally agree. I have that match. We'll get there in a second. If you thought, if you thought maybe you bring it a little too high, we'll see how people think where I put it. Okay. But going into number number three, I have John Cena versus the heartbreak kid at the Raw in London in 2007. This was a few weeks after the WrestleMania match and this match went longer than it was originally supposed to. The match went a little bit over an hour, but these two men like, if you thought they'd fall on a classic at WrestleMania, they turned it up to 11 in this match. They were, they were just keeping each other their best shots. And like the crowd was really into the match, which I really think helped, you know, the feel of the match. Cause it's like the real big match feel if you get the crowd into it the entire time. And we see Sean Michaels get his a come up. It's, and he hits a scene with the sweet chin music and he does the tired thing where he just falls on top of them for the one, two, three. But that was probably the greatest match in the history of Monday Night Raw. I absolutely agree. And I have that at my number three as well. Seena versus Michaels, like I said, Cina and Michaels at WrestleMania 23, that was where Cina, you know, put himself, you know, you knew that Cina could compete with the best. But this match overtook that WrestleMania match and it was one hour long, which I don't think it was planned to go that long, but they did it anyways. If I'm wrong, you know, correct me. But, you know, the match went an hour long. It was basically an Iron Man match without it being called an Iron Man match. And then, you know, those guys just put on an absolute dang, or a match. Like it's unquestionably probably the best match in Raw history. So, our number two, where's yours? My number two is actually the match you had at your number four, John Cina versus AJ Styles at the Royal Rumble 2017, which is my personal favorite match of, of John's because it's not only where he wins, you know, number 16, but it really shows how well AJ and Cina had, you know, chemistry. Like, yeah, as you had said, if you thought their matches that before were great, they, they'd turned it up to like a hundred in this match. Both men were just going back and forth. AJ was pulling out moves. We've never seen him do. Cina was pulling out moves. We've never seen him do. And like these two really brought the best out of each other. And I think, I think the fans really enjoyed it. And it's like you said, it really was Cina's last great match. Like he won number 16 in a very, you know, amazing fashion. Like I'm glad it wasn't just like, oh, you know, he did the, the, the super Cina shift where he gets all beat up and all of a sudden hits the five moves of doom and oh, look, he's a 16 time champion. So this guy had to fight and grind for number 16. And that's why I love it so much because it's like, you know, he really, really just stepped up. Oh, yeah. All right. So we're quickly writing down. We have five minutes left of this podcast. So going into my number two, it's Cina vs Edge at Unforgiven 2006. The reason why I have that match so hot. So, you know, low on my list is because, you know, going into that match. It was like it was Edges homecoming. You know, the fans were absolutely 100% with edge in that match. And it was the culmination of a rivalry that was that kind of carried the company through the, the year 2006. I think, um, seen an edge, had tremendous chemistry with each other that had matches at the Royal Rumble. They had matches all throughout. I think it was something that they turned it up to a level, both superstars, and we had never seen them do at the time. So I think putting it, you know, in perspective, that match surpassed everything that we wanted to be in and then some. All right, you're number one, Ryan, because we have my number one. My number one. And I don't think this comes as a surprise to me because I think there's another one on almost everybody's list. But I have Johnson vs CM Punk at Money in the bank 2011. My number one. Yeah, because like, this was like, you know, we had seen it be technical, but this was also in the years where he was kind of just doing his five moves of do things. But this match, and it was in Chicago. So he was like the villain and punk was the hometown hero, but like we really saw seen as technical prowess like I don't think anybody expected. Seeing it like, pull that out of the hat and you know, actually keep up with with punk in that perspective and the two just put on a classic match. The story was great, you know, this, this, the night where punk's contract expired at midnight and he left Chicago with the championship and that matches is like, you know, a chef, a chef kiss kiss that is what you call like. Like the perfect dressing match. Exactly. The storyline was perfectly built. See and punk was legitimately walking out of WWE at that point. And they played into it, you know, and honestly everything that worked out into that match, it was great. And just the match itself was just so great. Those both those guys, you know, are, they're both, they're best competitor because they brought every bit of greatness out of each other. And that natural remain in WWE history and WWE lore forever. And that's probably you can easily call that one of their, their best match. You can argue that that match is both competitors, see and punk and John Cena's best match. But yeah, right. Sorry to cut it off so quickly. We only have 30 minutes to record. So today, this was a great podcast. I love talking about this. I agree. And just real, real quick that just to mention, I know I had said, like, Oh, yeah, definitely in my arm will mention just another quick, honorable mention match. I have is Johnson versus the rock or WrestleMania 28. I know it wasn't the best match from technical standpoint, but I think it was just an iconic match because we saw the great, the one of the biggest stars of the attitude era of the rock come face to face with the biggest match, you know, decade, John Cena and just seeing those two go head to head with truly, you know, a sight to see. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, Ryan. Until next time, dude. I'm sorry to cut off so quickly. I'm going to get cut off here. All right. All right, guys. Thank you for turning it to list my podcast. And we'll see you next week. All right. See you next week. [BLANK_AUDIO]