Collins It Like It Is

47. Seattle Dominates!

Sean, Stephen, and Larry break down the Mariners sweep over the Mets! Did Polanco and Rivas have the play of the year? We also discuss the return of Julio, Troy Taylor's debut (we called it!), and give some quick thoughts on the first preseason game of the Mike MacDonald era Seahawks. Find us on X @CollinsLikeItIs

Duration:: 31m
Broadcast on:: 11 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

[MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome back in to the Collins It Like It Is podcast. This is the podcast where we're going up and down, baby. Up and down, up and down. We are going to have to get checked out for emotional health here. Because holy smokes, you turn into this podcast. And vibes are high, and then they're in the cellar. Then we're to the moon, and then we're buried. And so holy smokes, ride the wave with us, folks. My name is Stephen Collins. Welcome back in to the Collins It Like It Is podcast. Got my brother, Sean Collins, on here. He has been the faithful one. He's been on every stinking episode here. Sean, good to see you, man. Hey, it reminds me of that happy Gilmore scene where that got to go up and down and around. It's carousel, all good things, yeah? You're talking about that? That's what the Veritors are like, man. There's something, there's something. And then we got a dad, if we got a dad on here, he's been hopping on the summer break, not so much for you anymore. Sorry, so we are teacher's life back at it. I can't it. Glad to have you on the podcast, dad. Yeah, glad to be here. Seattle sports fans, hello. And yes, tomorrow is day one of the school year. Students don't come back until Wednesday. But yep, I'm back in the saddle again, starting tomorrow, Monday. Teachers are groaning and parents are celebrating is what's happening here for the summer break. Hey, I'm gonna go out and give you guys a hot take, just flaming right off the gate, okay? Here's just you buckled up. You got your, you got your, you know, aloe vera, 'cause this thing is gonna be hot, okay? Here you go, buckle up. If the Mariners can win series 22 to one, I have a feeling we're gonna be pretty good. I have a feeling that if we can hold the opposing team to one run over three games a week of score 22, I think we're gonna go places, guys. I just, I want you to know I'm willing to put myself out on that take. That's exactly what the Mariners did, man. Holy smokes, this was awesome. 22 runs scored over three games and they gave up one. 'Cause Luis Castillo's a bum. Let me tell you, it's our worst pitcher, apparently. No, that was amazing. And I'll be on, I said it out the jump. Our last podcast, the sky was falling. And this podcast wasn't the world. And that just seems like it just encapsulates this Mariners season. The second you think you got them like figured out, they crater and then they're amazing. This team looks like the best team in baseball and it looks like the worst team in baseball and there's no in between. They only have two levers. It's amazing or awful. Sean, what do you make of this series? - I mean, that's Mariners baseball. That's why we've always been optimistic about just getting into the playoffs. 'Cause maybe we'll get this version of the Mariners in the playoffs and then we'll win the whole thing and it'll be great. So that's partly why this has been a little bit of a roller coaster emotionally just in this podcast is because man, it can be so frustrating but then we get glimpses of the best team in baseball. And that really showcased this weekend with the Mets. What was the most encouraging to me? Obviously the 22 runs was outstanding. The Cal double dumper in the third game and just offensive explosion was phenomenal but really what stands out to me 'cause it's not sustainable to score 22 runs in the series. That's just not gonna happen. It's not realistic just to hold the other team to one run over three games. That's impossible but what's not impossible is playing clean baseball. And this team played clean baseball for three games, didn't have any base running errors, didn't have any errors in the field. Spectacular defense, which to me isn't sustainable but it was the most exciting thing for me. You had maybe the play of the year in baseball, not just Mariners, maybe the play of the year in all of baseball with that double play. Palanco flipping it to Rivas, bare hand, the double play. You guys know what I'm talking about. Just incredible. We had a Rosarina make a diving catch that was a phenomenal play. We had Robles out in center field making great catches. I mean, that's the stuff that Mariners baseball is built on. That's how we win a World Series is with those type of plays, our pitching lights out. We don't need 22 runs, it was fun. It was fun but the way we win games is the way we make a run is by the defense and the pitching that we saw this series. Phenomenal stuff. Yeah, dad, what about you? What do you, I mean, there's nothing but encouragement coming when you out score an opponent 22 to one. I mean, that's a, that's utter domination at every level of the game. But yeah, how you feeling coming away from that series? Yeah, well, coming away from the series is, you're just mesmerized by the pitching that, wow, our pitching is dominant. And we're gonna get to some things here later in the podcast about and I'm gonna bring up some pitching again. But yeah, what struck me and I keep going back to it is game two. That was almost a perfect game for our pitching because we got Gilbert and we may run through the games individually but game two was Gilbert for seven innings through 90-something pitches. So seven innings of Gilbert, no runs. And we come in with Jimmy Garcia for an inning, lights out and Munoz lights out. So game two was almost perfect pitching in my book. Yeah, yeah. Sean, can you give us just the big picture, 10,000 foot fly by if somebody was out of town this weekend or just wasn't able to catch it, you know, they're out camping or something. It's the summer, winding it down. What happened in the series? Obviously they've already caught that we swept the Mets. We went three and no, we dominated them. But what happened? Give the big picture here. Yeah, so game one, I mean, we won six nothing. We had, it would have been, I kind of remember, that was a long time ago, Bryce Miller. He goes six, shut out innings, six strikeouts. We had Snyder, both, and then Thornton, all pitch scoreless innings in that game. I think offensively, it was a pretty good, you know, game offensively, only nine strikeouts. We ended up with six hits. Home runs, we had a boss. Yeah, boss, bomb, he gets rewarded by getting sent back down to the right house. (laughing) Yeah, that was cool. We'll pick it up, buddy. Yeah, learn something, won't ya? Yeah, I didn't connect those dots. That's, oh, that's brutal, sorry, dude. Yeah, but there's no at-bats for him. So what we're gonna do, I mean, Rivas is our backup shortstop. He's gonna play when there's a lefty on the mound, and we need Dylan Moore to play his platoon role at third base. There's no spot for-- Yeah. There's no at-bats for Bliss. It is what it is. That's no fault of his. Game two, dad walked at you through it. You know, we ended up winning that game four, nothing, Gilbert pitched fantastic. We had Jimmy Garcia and Munoz. That's a formula that's gonna be pretty dominant, and they did just that, and then game three. We ended up outscoring them at 12 to one. Just an absolute just. It's comical how that game went. I mean, 12 to one. Cal Raleigh, his two home runs stand out to me. Polanco hit the home run. Also, it's a double, he had a Cal or a can zone double. I think the only person that didn't get on base was Julio, and he struck out. Well, what do you call O for five? You know, the trifecta, you got the Golden Sombrero, it's a platinum Sombrero, I don't know. Does it just, you automatically can send out to Tacoma? I don't know what happens. Would you go over five with five straight out? - That's just an ankle wrap. - Yeah, not the pass in my book. - I think, yeah. - Oh man. - He's just doing his rehab in Seattle. - Yep. - Rehab assignment since Seattle. - That's really it though. He was out for so long that he should have been given a rehab assignment. So, I mean, I'm not surprised by it. Am I concerned by it? Not really, honestly. I mean, how would you expect somebody to play after not seeing live pitching for two weeks? - Yeah, that's what it looked like. So, yeah. - Yeah, he's been on in the simulator, whatever that thing's called, simulator simulates actual pictures, pitches. - I've seen cars three. I know the simulator doesn't work. - For all seven of you, they get the reference with little toddler boys like I got at home. I've seen cars three. - There you go. - I'm not worried about it. I think if they're not worried about his ankle, I'm not worried about his ankle. But it will be nice when he gets back out to centerfield. Robliss takes over right field and we'll just have a lineup and just stay, you know, who's backups and who's gonna be platooning. It's gonna be a good time here. Race to the finish. - Yeah, yeah. I saw this will lead us and this is not my crazy stat. If you're, we've got a fun episode dialed up here. It's gonna be a little tighter, a little shorter today, but we're gonna share some crazy stats. This is not a crazy stat, it's just an encouraging stat. Cal coming off today has the highest war, fan grafts war, so F war, of anybody at the catching position. So Cal is the highest war, you could argue them, maybe the most valuable catcher in Major League Baseball. I would not have guessed that. I don't think it quite qualifies as a crazy stat, but it's always an encouraging stat that Cal is really, really turned things around. He was struggling there for a minute and he has turned it around. It's encouraging, it's encouraging. - Speaking of other encouraging things, John, Troy Taylor, can you, I want to give you some flowers here. You shared something on X that was on the clip. Maybe, Sean, do you set up the clip and then dad, I got out through some shade at you, that you were mocking what Sean said here, and then it turned out to be true. So, Sean, do you get your flowers here? Take your-- - Back in the day? - Yeah, yeah, take your flowers. What did you predict about Troy Taylor? - Well, just to set it up, back in late June, Jay's trident, myself, and dad, we did a prospect ranking show. And the whole point of that was, honestly, to set up the trade deadline season. Like, we just wanted to, hey, here are some names, here are our prospect system, that way when a trade happens or somebody gets called up, you'll know who they are if you listen to our podcast. And one of the names was Troy Taylor. And I said, back in the late June, I think that Troy Taylor might have a shot of making his debut this year. I was just kind of connecting the dots. I know he started out in A ball this year, but he was dominating AA. And just the way that Jerry DiPoto and his front office crew view AA. If you're dominating AA as a reliever, you have a straight shot to the Major Leagues. And I'm sitting there looking at him, like, dude, this guy's got like a sub nine whip, like a mid to ERA, striking out dudes, he's got three pitches, throwing, you know, 98-mount hour sinkers, like, I think he's got a shot. So when I did my little profile breakdown of Troy Taylor, I said, I think he's got a shot of making his debut. And dad, you threw shade and you're like, that'd be pretty crazy. And I was like, ah, I mean, I did come from Everett. I mean, I mean, I don't have the actual date when he got called up to Arkansas, but if he was still an Everett then. - No, was he an Arkansas in June? - Yeah, when we did that podcast, I should say. - Yeah, he was in AA, had a little cup of coffee in AA. And just was dominant. So I just said, hey, if he does this for another month, I mean, heck, and then here we are now, here he is. And he's gonna help. - He looked good. - He did. - He looked, he was, he was amped. You know, you could tell, I don't blame him for that. What a perfect scenario for him to come in and, you know, like, no, you're at home, no pressure at all. Just throw strikes and you're, you know, you're just razzed out of your mind. You know, like, that was, that was pretty cool. - He's got a soft landing as you can get. - Oh yeah, his, man, the run on his fastball is nuts. - That is, that is, that's, that's gonna be a problem. If he can, if he can maintain some accuracy there in pitch location, it's, he's gonna be a problem. - Yeah. - It's fun to see. So I'm a tailor, welcome to the pigs. - That's right. And that is the, the one thing that he needs to stay level is his accuracy, because his control is probably a little bit of his downfall, but a little bit wild is pretty good in baseball, right? Keep them on their toes, on their heels. - There you go. - So control is his thing. - If you can have A-ball, Sean, you and Dad, you guys won't know this, but I live, you know, out in the Hillsborough Beaverton area of Portland Metro. And that's where the, you know, Hillsborough hops play, which are on the same, you know, league is ever aquasox. And so I actually got to go see Colt Emerson's debut in high A, which was, which was a cool thing to get out there and see those guys and see, you know, lads, Montes and stuff. And that was, that was a good time to get to see those guys out there. But I'll say the gap, yeah, to, to like watch, to think that Troy Taylor went from that all the way to the bigs. And basically like six weeks is what it turns out to be, is bananas, because yeah, that's a different level of baseball in Seattle. I'll just put it in higher. And so yeah, I get why they're like, "Hey, if you're in high, you got some time." 'Cause as much as I'm excited about Colt Emerson and you know, lads, Montes, those guys, it's not the same deal. It's gonna need some time to marinate down there a little bit longer. So Sean, here's the thing though. You went to a, you went to an A-ball game. I lived near the Modesto nuts. And I was telling you, for the longest time, I'm legitimately afraid for the pitcher when Lozaro Montes comes up. And you were like, "Oh yeah, yeah, yeah." But dude, seriously, he's facing 19 and 20 year olds. And obviously in Everett, you're probably 21 or 22. But every single time he comes up, and there's a guy who's just a string bean, you know, is in here as a pitcher that just isn't developed yet. And you're like, "Dude, I think Montes might kill him." (laughs) And you got to witness that. I did, I did. I also witnessed him see three straight fastballs that were probably only about 95, and he couldn't catch up to him. So it was a little bit like there was some good and some bad there. It's A-A-ball. He's gonna be a stud. But I see why we need to percolate a little longer down there in A-A. So, he's finding his footings in A-A 'cause Modesto was a different experience for him than Everett. Yeah, hey, well, let's transition guys to Shondiota kind of a fun idea. You teed through a couple episodes ago and just with all this crazy stuff going on, we didn't have time to get into it, but we're gonna just talk about some crazy stats. We're three quarters of the way through the season. We're in the home stretch. We've got like 40 games to go. It's go time here. This is it. We're in the sprint, you know. This is the final lap of the mile, if you will. So dig deep and get this thing, Seattle. But let's look at some crazy stats. This isn't a two-week sample size. This isn't a four-week sample size. This is 75% of the season. This is 120-something games, basically, now into this thing. So I'm just gonna call you guys out. Let's do one at a time. We'll let you do two rounds here. Don't go doing some two-minute die drive on it. Just give the stat, give a line or two on it, and we'll react to it, okay? So Shondi, since this is your segment, you get first dibs here. Give your first one. Then we'll go to that. Then I'll go. Crazy stat. Crazy stat. Okay, Sasedo has 108 ERA in August. (laughing) Okay, well, okay. Good. That's my crazy stat. Oh, man. Sasedo's got 108 ERA in August. All right, dad, you're up. Well, I don't know if I'm gonna put it. 108. Wow. I can do that. It's just an interesting thought here. The M's, we have four pitchers in the top 26 in ERA. So for the top 26 starting pitchers with ERA mariners. But Gilbert and Castillo still have a sub 500 ERA. Okay, that sub 500 win loss record, you mean? Yeah, yeah, not ERA, yeah, win loss record, sorry. Yeah, this ties into mine. My mind is that Gilbert, Castillo, and Kirby combined, even though they're like leading the league in quality starts, have a losing record. How is this even possible? How is it even possible for them to have a losing record? They're 25 and 27, and then get this. Miller and Wu together, Miller and Wu together are 14 and 8. So Miller and Wu are 14 and 8. And Gilbert, Castillo and Kirby are 25 and 27. So Miller and Wu, like basically have twice as many wins as losses. And Gilbert, Castillo and Kirby are literally a losing record. I can't believe that. That feels absolutely bananas to a, I would not have guessed that. I would not have guessed that. All right, now round two, Sean. All right. Victor Robles, in the first inning, has a 1,450 OPS. There's Peekberry Bonds, that's great. Peekberry Bonds, in the first inning only. But in the first inning, Victor Robles is an absolute monster. Oh, man, Dad, what about you? All right, a little lancellary to the pitching is, of the top 30 pitchers, only three pitchers have a sub 500. Two of them are mariners and the other is Anderson of Los Angeles Angels. So that's just an aside of the sub 500 win loss record for starting pitchers. But my second is that we, the mariners are in the top 13 in home runs. But we have only two batters in the top 100. That's interesting. That's a lot of guys with like 10 home runs. Yeah, we've got three people with 11. We have Annigar, Jun, Julio, and Polo with 11. That's interesting. Going on here, going on your starting pitching thing more, like Gilbert Castillo and Kirby all have none of them have winning records. Which is just like, how is that even possible? Here's mine. It's not, it's not really funny. It's just like, or even that crate, I guess it's crazy in the sense of, I would have never have guessed this and tell it. This won't be news to anybody. I think you all know this stat, but it feels worthwhile. And that's that Mitch Hannagar. It's the all time walk-offs franchise leader. That feels impossible. Like, I was a Mitch Hannagar of all the guys who play like, it's not an Alvin Davis who's been there forever. It's not a, you know, an Edgar Martinez who has all these big moments, or a King Griffey Jr., or an A-Rod, or somebody that clearly is one of, or each row, you know, like one of the best mariner players ever. The stinkin' Mitch Hannagar out of the world. A lot of guys, a lot of really, you know, for the mariners not having won a world series. They've got a lot of like all-time players come through Seattle. I mean, there's some all-timers, but it's Mitch Hannagar that is the franchise leader and a walk-off hits, baby. That just feels impossible to me, that it's Mitch stinkin' Hannagar. I don't know. The reason for that is, you know, the early history of the mariners, we didn't have a lot of wins, period, much less walk-off wins. Well, a lot of years in the early, you know, the mid-2000s, there weren't a lot of pop wins either. So I don't, yeah. It's not a crazy stat, as I was looking at like Facebook, you know, like on this day, like Facebook memories. It was something like Felix Hernandez pitched like seven innings and gave up two earned runs or less and like, I think it was like 20-something straight starts. It was absolutely unbelievable. It was like, what in the world? Sorry for him. Geez Louise, I think we forgot, you know, how good he is sometimes. I got another one. Yeah, go ahead. I got another one. I'll give you one more. This is a, this is just a little cherry on top. Okay, Josh Rojas versus left-handed pitching. Oh, and that's ugly. I did negative one, OPS plus, which if you're not familiar with OPS plus, it's similar to WRC plus where it 100 is average. So he's negative one where 100 is average. He's not negative one of a hundred. It's like 99. He's negative one. He's a negative one. Wow. He's a hundred and one away. What's the replacement level? Is a hundred? A hundred, yeah. A hundred is a hundred is league average. He broke the scale of how bad he is versus left-handed pitching. He's in a negative, where a negative isn't even on, is it an impossible? Negative is not possible. He found it. Wow, yeah, that's amazing. That's amazing. That leads into why Reavos didn't get sent down and Bliss did, because when Lefty's going, more is playing third to get Rojas on the bench. So Reavos has to play short. So that's why Bliss. This leads to a question. This is about his social, we were texting during the, when I was at the Hillboro Hopps, every Aquasox game. And I just said, there's no universe I was ever playing. Hi, eyeball. We were both high school good, you know, baseball. And I was watching these guys. I was like, there's no universe I was ever going to play here. So this isn't me being Uncle Rico thinking, I could have made it if I would have just got seen by the right scout. It's like, no, I'm not making it to Everett, man. I'm a disaster. But what do you think your OPS plus number would be? If a professional baseball player is negative one. What is, you know, Billy off the street going to be doing high school good Billy? What is he doing, if you will, coming off the street? What's the negative OPS plus there? I don't know. I mean, it would, I mean, you'd strike out every time. So whatever a strikeout every, that would be, it would probably be, I don't know, negative a thousand. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know far down the chart goes, I guess is my point. It's infinite. It's an infinite chart. So I don't know, a negative hundreds would be the answer. I'm sure you could look up like you could probably figure this out because there's probably a picture out there that was like an American picture his whole career. And then he, you know, stood in the batter's box or he actually what you could do. Go look up what Luis Castillo's OPS plus is. Go look up what his OPS plus is for the season. And that would, that'll tell you what, because it's, we lost him. Yeah, because it's on a scale that's, that's like. Here, I'll look it up. I'll look up with Luis. Oh man. Yeah. Well, we don't know what the formula is. I mean, he won't drink water while you're laughing. Grounding risk. Yeah. We go with a life card up here. Nills, bro. Holy smokes. Oh man. Okay. None. And going to those games, you know, when I lived up, you know, growing up in Puyallup, we'd go to the Tacoma Tigers back then, um, games and actually. Sounds like you sound like such an old timer right now. Were you like, oh, you're black and white knob TV. Oh yeah. She would have been a little bit of an ad with your. Cause they can say go came through Tacoma. Mark McGuire came through Tacoma. Yeah. Those were the days. Julius Joe Jackson. Yeah. Hold his wagner. What's going on? Great. No, uh, Fastman. Any last matters things before I kick it to just a minute or two about the other team in Seattle. I think that the Tacoma, you mentioned Mark McGuire and Tacoma. I think he's one of, uh, like two or three players that have actually hit one over the grain monster and center field in Tacoma. Would you have you never seen a Tacoma Rainier's game? Just go do a Google search of the dimensions of the Tacoma. Chaney stadium. It's literally like 420 to center field with like a 30 foot wall. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, what the who designed and how have they not fixed it? Like how, how is that still like the wall out there? I just don't understand. Batter's eye. Maybe they have sort of people have to look up. They need a better side that high. I don't know. I don't know. It's really weird. Any of that. Last thing about this series here is our relief pitchers gave up. Zero runs. Obviously zero earned runs. So we were just lights out in our relief core at least three games. And if you did watch the ESPN broadcast, they actually made that. Just they recognized our relievers were just lights out. So good job relievers. I'll also give a little bit of like shade to ESPN. How do you know 20 years without hosting, you know, in a city? Person in a baseball. Like come on guys. Like 20 years, I don't know. Like it's like the Mariners have been the worst team in baseball for 20 years. It's like you couldn't get up here at any point. Like, I don't know. Like that just feels bizarre to me. Like yeah, no feelings. Yeah. No beltray. Yeah. I mean, you know, and crews and, you know, any though, like, each row, all those things. Like, like, they're like, they're next Sunday. It's the Yankees at the Detroit Tigers. It's hardly, you know, absolute. You got to get in front of television to see that one. You know, it's like, you couldn't come out here in 20 years. I don't know. That fell a little bit of like, are you kidding me? ESPN. Give me a break. Anyway, Louise Castillo has a negative 100. Oh, maybe it just goes down to a negative 100. Okay. Well, whatever it is, we would find it. We could scuba dive all the way to the bottom. Guarantee it. Well, speaking of the opposite of that, whatever scuba dive into the bottom is, the Mariners have sent the vibes the opposite direction. It is, you know, shot up into the moon. Same. It's just funny, man. How it's just been so up and down and we're riding the wave with them. But vibes in Seattle are high because it's not just the mirrors that just did an awesome sweep over the weekend with the Seahawks. Man, that was a really encouraging start to the Mike McDonald era. And you might be tempting to say it's preseason. Who cares? You know, I know a lot of people, you know, I don't even watch preseason because it's, you know, it's a practice essentially. You know, a lot of people view it that way. But also, I watched almost every minute of the preseason game because I'm a psycho. But it was at the end of the day. They dominated every single facet of the game, which here's the deal. Would you rather dominate or not dominate like a preseason game? I'll take dominate a preseason game. I don't know. Like they did a lot of preseason games the last eight years with Pete Carroll leading the net team and they weren't dominating anything. And so I'll take dominating at the end of the day. They dominated the line of scrimmage. They stopped the run. They could run the ball. They could. They absolutely look like the more physical team. A lot of the things have been driving us nuts. A lack of physicality, a missed tackle. All the stuff was not there. I'm not saying that's going to translate into being, you know, the next Legion of Boom. And this is the next great defense coming through. And, you know, for goodness sakes, it's super bold back on the tip. I'm not saying any of that. I'm just saying, I want to watch a team that's physical again. I'm saying I want to watch a team that doesn't get pushed around again. Like I want to see a team that actually gets back to being the bully again. I want to watch a disciplined football team that runs like crisp, you know, interesting, you know, schemes that doesn't feel like it's a vanilla scheme out there. That's just, you know, a high school offense could run it. You know, and at the end of the day, it looked different. You know, who knows? But it also be, Tim, you say, oh, it's a bunch of third stringers playing together. It wasn't our first string defense was out there. And they looked awesome. Like it was the first string offense other than Herbert out there. And we looked, we looked like clearly the better team across the board. To me, that's exciting. So if you're a Seattle Seahawks fan, just Seattle sports fan, I think there's reasons to be pretty excited about what's happening in Seattle. And Shawn, you put it well last time. I'm not saying that this is a playoff team necessarily. But for goodness sakes, we're trying to build a core. We're trying to be a physical team again that nobody wants to play. And that was kind of the Detroit Lions, you mentioned that two years ago. And now they're one of the best teams in the NFC. Who knows? Maybe in two years, it's not hard to imagine that Geno Smith could be what Jared Goff, you know, has been in Detroit. And you build a great line around it. You have a defense that absolutely nobody wants to play against. And shoot, you never know what could happen. So for whatever game one could be in the preseason, it was encouraging. Whatever you're looking for, it was encouraging. Dad, I don't know if you want to fill in any gaps there, but I was encouraged by the first preseason game. Yeah, no, I didn't see it because I live out of the area. Oh, yeah. So obviously reading reports, reading observations, I just write-ups. Everything was positive. And Mike McDonald was positive. You know, he thought it was a good foundation of something to build on. So I liked what I read and what I got feedback on. So excited for the Seahawks. Yeah, there's both. Once the last time the Seahawks and Mariners were both like legitimately exciting. I'm not even saying like great, just like legitimately exciting. It's been a while. I guess would be the one I got. Maybe one of those, because 2013-14-15, like one of those years was a Keno Cruz years. So, you know, one of those somewhere that had been an overlap. But it's been a while. It's been a while. And it's not a normal thing. I'll put it that way, right? It's not a normal thing. So soak it up Seattle fans. It's August up here. So holy smokes, it's an awesome season. And both the Seahawks and Mariners have reasons to be excited. Can't complain too much. Sean, any last words? Mariners, Seahawks, before we close this thing down? I mean, I think that it's hard to put any stock into preseason. I mean, if we look at the Mariners spring training, we would have said, oh man, Machaneter, Garver, they're all going to be just MVP candidates. And the offense was just cooking. You know, no one was striking out. Everyone was putting together. All the reports of everything. And when you watch the Mariners in the preseason or in the spring training, every at bat was competitive. And everyone was hitting home runs. And then that game won against the Red Sox happened. And you're like, oh, dang it. I know this team. I recognized this one. And so, you know, I'm going to just hold out as far as I'm not saying you're wrong for being optimistic. I'm not saying that anybody should be pessimistic. I'm just saying I'm going to reserve judgment for week one. And I'm going to see what week one looks like. Because I got fooled with spring training, you know? Luke Rayley looked like an absolute disaster. Like send Luke Rayley down to rookie ball because of his spring. And you know how now he's one of our better players. So it's just hard to judge off of. You know, guys are just warming up, you know, especially if you're a veteran. This is just you ramping up. You're not competing for a job. So it's hard to put any stock in it. Yeah, sure. Yep. I think that's a fair take. I think fans that are like, I'm going to hold out till week one. I think that's fair. I think fans are saying, hey, I think there's a reason to be excited. I think that's fair too. And so there's there's there's plenty of perspectives to be had. I want to give one last guy a little bit of love. And then we'll we'll hop off the same. That's Hori Polanco, man. Holy smokes. This guy has turned it around. And the reason I want to give him a little bit of love is we've given him a lot of shade. And on and on rightfully so on this podcast for most of the year, it wasn't good. But he has absolutely turned it around. And holy cow, he has been a game changer lately. So Polanco, keep that up. I'm going to go and do another. I started this podcast with a really bold prediction that if you go 22, run score to one run against, we're going to win some ball games. I know it's a hot take. And I'm just going to I don't predict that Julio Rodriguez is going to over five with five strikeouts every game. So I think, you know, if we can score 12 runs with Julio going over five with five case, we're going to be okay. We're going to be okay. So guys, thanks for listening to this. Give it a like, a share, subscribe. We're still a new podcast. Sean, where can people find us on X? Collins, like it is. That is the way to find us. Give us a follow. We'll follow you back. We like to interact on that platform. 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