Cue part 2! - Got test anxiety? Need extra tutoring or resources? Want extended time, or alternative adaptive technology? Getting extra accommodations in school is possible, and you don’t have to have a visual or obvious disability to get help. My guest Dan Jordan discusses the when, why, and how of getting additional assistance to make college a level playing field for you to play on, alongside your fellow classmates.
This is PART 2! Check out Part 1 at → 337 - College Disability Accommodations 101: How To Get The Help You Need! - Part 1
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Check out Dan’s podcast at --> After the IEP: College Transition and Success Tips for Parents of Students with ADHD, Learning Disabilities, and Mental Health
About today's guest: About Dan Jordan: Dan Jordan has worked as the Accessibility Coordinator and a counselor in higher education for over ten years, and is just completing his 15th year at the same school. With over 25 years combined in community mental health and in higher education, Dan has a passion for student success and wellness, advocacy, and ensuring students have the access they need. As a father of a son with dyslexia, dysgraphia, and dyscalculia, he also understands a parent’s perspective and concerns about accommodations in high school and college and the critical importance of self-advocacy.
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Hey guys, welcome back to part two, talking about college disability accommodations, and it's so amazing that we have Dan Jordan on to help explain how you can get help, and not just to extra help, you know, that it's not fair to others. No, just leveling the playing field. So that in one way, he described it in one of the episodes of just like, if you're running a race and the other people have shoes and you don't have shoes, then you're just, they're giving you shoes, so you can run the same race. I love that. So if you're interested, first maybe go back and listen to part one, 'cause we do the overview of college disability, different kinds of accommodations, and this one is the practical step on how to go and check them out and get help for them. So I encourage you to listen to both episodes, and also if you are needing more support around this, have any questions related to this? Definitely reach out to Dan, but you can also come join our Facebook group, it's a free Facebook group, Christian College Girl Community on Facebook. Link is also in the description below. Basically, we share, you know, funny topics, memes, and also new episodes, and you can post questions, and we can commissary and then encourage one another. Cool, Christian College Girl Community on Facebook. Let's get into it. So if we lean into, which I'll probably split this up into two episodes, more of the tactical, a little bit step by step, I just have a couple tactical, step by step questions. We had said you could find the office usually online, ask your advisor, we busted some myths on this, people that can apply, you could even just go ask, but especially if you have an IP already and whatnot, you can just ask me, and so I guess my last two questions are like in the steps of like, what are the steps to getting these accommodations? Which you kind of already talked about, but I just wanna like step by step, go through it, and what do they even need to know before they even apply for this? Like walking through, like then listening to this episode, what's next, and then what's next, and then what's next? Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. So big umbrella, it's a broad category. It's a big umbrella that they want as many people under to capture everybody that we possibly can that might even have a disability. So it's a pretty broad thing. And the, what do I call it? Anyway, the threshold by which to be considered having a disability is kind of a low bar. It just has to be significantly impacting one life area. Well, anxiety probably impacts a whole bunch of different levels, but let's say for testing, that's the only place where it kind of comes out sometimes, and you just need distraction reduction. Cool, awesome. Then that's what we do. So if it's impacting one thing, then you can be considered a disability. What does the office need? Well, you oughta find the office first, and what you're gonna find when you find that office or speak to the staff, they're gonna say, I need you to fill out some forms. I'm gonna need you to provide some documentation about what it is that you have, and I'm gonna need to speak with you about what you need. And then after that, if you're approved, you're gonna have the added step of notifying your instructors or how that happens. Sometimes schools do it differently, but you're gonna have an instructor notification, and then you have to figure out how to use them, right? So there's some instruction that comes with that to figure out how to use them. That's kind of the steps. Knowing where to go, that's the first thing, but then figuring out what they need, that's a whole category. And schools get to define what kind of documentation they need for different disabilities. And sometimes there's health issues, there's mental health, ADHD, learning disabilities, those kinds of things. There's a whole bunch of different categories, and sometimes they're very well identified at some schools. Just gonna have to look and work with that, and where do you get it? Okay, with anxiety, you probably have a therapist or even the psychiatrist that you see. Great, cool. It's probably gonna be an appropriate thing, but you have to meet the requirements for that school. And sometimes it's okay to have a therapist or a psychiatrist give information about ADHD. Sometimes schools want a full neuropsych eval. Depends on the school, really depends on the school. There's not a standard, it's not one standard. It's, each school gets to define that for themselves based on what they feel they need to make sure that they're doing their due diligence for the school to identify those students who are self-identifying, make sure that they are a student with a disability. So meeting that, and then you have to speak about it, which is kind of the hard part for some people. That's the hard part. Like, yeah, figuring it out and doing some of the individual barriers, some kind of the personal belief barriers, you kind of have to do that. But then speaking about it is kind of difficult. - Can someone bring a friend or a family member into the meeting with them with an advice? - Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes like, I've had veterans bring their spouse I've had, is that's great information. It's not like the spouse doesn't know the impact. I've had students bringing their parents, typically a mother, because they're typically the ones who are involved in the school K through 12, that kind of stuff. I've had that happen. I've had parents participate over the phone, Skype, Zoom, all the above, all a bunch of different things that can happen. But they can, to that interview, if it's helpful. Basically, the student is going to have to give that information for themselves. That's what's going to happen. - Sure, sure. It seems like they need to make sure they speak on it. And yet, perhaps a family member could remind them this was this too. Oh yeah, we need to talk about this. I could see how it could kind of tie in together. - Correct. And that's a whole other kind of discussion. I mean, that's why I wrote a book. That's why I have access to colleges, why I have courses and that kind of stuff. Do help with that piece. So, 'cause it's hard to advocate for something that you don't know how to speak about. It's kind of difficult. It's one thing to know where to go. It's one thing to know the paperwork and put that stuff in. But then if you have to ask for something, wow. Okay, what am I asking for? Yeah, the staff will help you figure that out. But it's really helpful to know the impact of the disability upfront and with examples and as many examples as you can get. And if you've had stuff, K through 12, you're dealing with a different kind of system altogether in knowing that different system. And that's where the student is kind of at a great disadvantage because they don't know the difference. They're experiencing the difference, but legally they don't know the difference and what the different aspects are and what they can ask for, what they can, what all those differences are. Because there are some things that aren't going to get approved and that's a whole other discussion. But they have to know that stuff going through, but they have to know themselves so they can speak about it and at least give a lot of examples in terms of how it's impacting them, especially in an educational setting and even outside an educational setting. That's a whole other ballgame and some students just need a ton of help with that. - And that's great. It's great to have these options to talk on that. So if they need help with it, right? We have just about a minute left on our Zoom meeting. So could you tell everyone your website and resources and then they can go to CU and we can wrap up? - Sure, access in college.com. Absolutely, access in college.com is my website. That's a whole bunch of courses and stuff like that. To help with transferring advocacy to the student and helping them make sure that they know exactly what they need to do and what information they need to impart to the Disability Services Office. Also with some skill sets like time management, that's a whole other course that's up there. You can find my book, Self Advocacy Prior Education. That's on Amazon, that's there. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook at accessing underscore college. So if you have any questions, feel free to ask. - Hey girl, I hope you enjoyed today's episode. If so, would you take 30 seconds and share it with a friend who wants to get scholarships and avoid student loans just like you? Okay, now I'm off to hopefully play some ultimate frisbee. I'll meet you back here in a few days for another episode. Bye. (upbeat music)
