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Episode 84: Them: Part Three “7 Portals”

Solveig answers some of the big questions that have arisen throughout the first two episodes of the series, including what she believes "they" might be, what they want, and why they are communicating with this group of women in the first place. She also discusses some of the strange things that happened to her and her family as the years went on. Including being "worked on", strange photos appearing in their phones, and bizarre physical symptoms. To hear bonus episodes and videos of Otherworld, sign up for the Otherworld Patreon Check out our Merch Follow us on: Instagram, TikTok, Twitter If you have experienced something paranormal or unexplained, email us your story at stories@otherworldpod.com

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1h 2m
Broadcast on:
24 Jun 2024
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Solveig answers some of the big questions that have arisen throughout the first two episodes of the series, including what she believes "they" might be, what they want, and why they are communicating with this group of women in the first place.

She also discusses some of the strange things that happened to her and her family as the years went on. Including being "worked on", strange photos appearing in their phones, and bizarre physical symptoms.

To hear bonus episodes and videos of Otherworld, sign up for the Otherworld Patreon

Check out our Merch

Follow us on: Instagram, TikTok, Twitter

If you have experienced something paranormal or unexplained, email us your story at stories@otherworldpod.com

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Go to viori.com/otherworld. Welcome to Otherworld. I'm your host Jack Wagner. This episode is part of a series called them. If you haven't heard the other episodes, you should go back and start from the beginning. This is part three and this one in particular contains lots of stuff that is pretty hard to wrap your head around. It was hard for me and quite frankly, it still is. I'm sure there are some people listening who are skeptical of some parts of the story. I just want to say, so am I. I spent a year and a half scratching my head, trying to figure out some way to explain all of this. I interviewed Solvi for probably 14 hours total, just her, maybe even more. I kind of stopped counting. Most of that was just me peppering her with questions and telling her that there's no way this could be real. Going over a lot of this stuff again and again. We talked on the phone a lot, even outside of the interviews. And the thing is, she's also skeptical. She feels exactly the same way as me. And she struggles with the contradiction of living through something that she has trouble comprehending. Working on this series, my mind was always coming up with new theories and explanations. What if it was this? What if it's that? But the thing is, at a certain point, I realized lots of these so-called explanations didn't really explain or change all that much for me. This story was still frightening and compelling to me no matter how I looked at it. Even if this was some kind of decade-long, very elaborate hoax with no clear purpose, that's even scarier to me. I changed my views, theories, and opinions on this story rapidly and constantly. Every day, I thought something different. And I think it's perfectly okay to hold any of those views as a listener. Because for me, the one thing I've been confident in the entire time is that I believe soul vibe. I know that she experienced these things. And I also know that this stuff consumed her life and her family's lives for a very long time. One-third of soul vibe's life has been spent dealing with this stuff and trying to make sense of it. This is them, part three, seven portals, and you're listening to Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? North or North? At its core, the science, you can't argue it. I'm like, "I'm sure it about science." It's almost frustrating that it's half-time to make sure that I'm going to die of budget. It's a game where we're just like, "What's wrong?" Everybody knows back into the light, even if it takes them a minute. I want to ask you about the crystal that fell from the ceiling. And the backstory of this, because you said it was important. Yeah. Yeah, so the crystal was given to me when I was basically a newborn. My mom didn't want from me or my sister to be baptized in church. So she, instead, she brought me to this kind of, I don't know, some type of alternative baptism or something, where it was just a bunch of women, as far as I've understood, sitting around me in a circle, meditating. And this ceremony was led by a woman that my mom was introduced to when she was pregnant with my sister in, I guess, 1989, through a friend. And then this ceremony happened. And this woman leading the ceremony gave my mom this crystal that I now have. She gave it to my mom to give it to me. And she told my mom as she was handing her this crystal that I would have a mark on my body that would show where I'm from, which is very absurd. But that's what she said. So on my left cheek, I have four moles that are kind of shaped as the letter Y, but it's like laying sideways. But I've always had strange comments on that mark. Like people have always told me it looks like the stars. I'm looking at it right now. It's very striking. Yeah, it looks like a constellation. Wait, like, did you have this mark when you were born? Did you have it during the baptism? Like, no, no, no. When did it show up? I've been trying to look through pictures of me as a kid. And I think when I was around four, maybe, I had at least like three of them. And then the last one showed up maybe a bit later. But I didn't have them when I was a baby. And this baptism, I mean, was this, was this group a part of your childhood in any way? Or was this like an isolated? No, they weren't like two of the women were my mom's friends. And one of them is still her friends. But other than that, it's not been a part of my life or her life after that. And when all of this stuff started happening and the crystal dropped from your ceiling, did you ever think that this lady or this group had something to do with it? Or is it just no? No. Okay. I had asked. No. And when were you first told about this baptism in the mark? I can't remember exactly when it happened. But I think it was quite early on through this whole strange experience. And then suddenly she was like, Oh, that's this crystal fell from the roof. And I guess maybe that's when we talked about it. But she was like, Oh, yeah, by the way, this woman said this strange thing that you would have a mark on your body that would show where you're really from. And I never like she said that she had never really connected what that really meant or that it could even be that mark on my cheek, even though I had it for many years, but she never thought about it until that event with the crystal, I guess, that's sort of when it clicked. Yeah, but I don't know. It's such a strange story. It could very well just be a very weird coincidence, of course. But it's a funny detail. And there is another aspect to this. I'm looking at this, the picture of you and Sarah. And Sarah has the same mark on her cheek. She didn't always have that, did she? No. Let's talk about that in a little bit. I know that's a whole other thing and a lot to start off with. Yeah, I agree. What type of crystals were you and your sister given? I can show you the one I was given. It's this yellow crystal, so it's quite big. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's really big. And that dropped from the ceiling? Yeah. Do you know the name of that crystal? I know in Norwegian you call it "kalsit." Calcite, yeah. Calcite, yeah. A yellow calcite. And I think my sister was given a rose quartz. A rose quartz. Yeah, like a round, kind of the same size, but just like a round sphere. What was going through your head in the beginning of all this? Because I hear the baptism thing, and I'm like, is this some kind of Norwegian cult that I don't understand? Like doing this stuff? What was going through your head? Well, my first suspicion was that Sarah was behind it, of course, that she was texting my mom and kind of trying to, I don't know, play this big prank on her and on us. But I think like if it wasn't for me having had those experiences by myself at first hearing the knocking and seeing this man and experiencing this thing with my phone, I think I would have rejected it much more easily. I kind of felt like if they have had similar experiences, like there must be something here. But I think a part of me wondered if maybe they had misunderstood exactly what it was, like when she dropped the whole alien word, I was a bit like, whoa, slow down. Maybe this is taking it a step too far. Maybe it could be something else. Yeah, that was something I was going to ask you. Did you at any point wonder if this was something else or something that had bad intentions? For sure. Yes, 100%. I was very, like that's part of the reason why I was so scared because how can you know that whatever is going on is safe or whoever you're communicating with actually has good intentions. And I think that that's something to be completely honest with you up until fairly recently I still had doubts about whether these beings could potentially be, you know, like some type of evil spirits or demon-like beings who for some reason wanted to mess with us. It felt like in the beginning like they didn't fully understand human boundaries maybe or like human, like our physical limitations, like how when they were pulling us into the water at some point they were trying to pull us down as if they wanted us to maybe lay down or something. So it was as if they didn't understand maybe that that's not entirely safe for us to do. But then when we sort of show them that we didn't appreciate that they stopped. They came in with like full force and it was quite extreme but then it felt like they also kind of backed off when they saw that we were scared. Okay this is a big question but what are they? Like what have they told you they are? Yeah I probably can't fully answer that question because I don't know. But they have told us that they are multi-dimensional or inter-dimensional beings, that they are non-physical but they can buy sort of going down in frequency. They can make physical objects move and they can sort of impact our physical world sort of if that makes sense. But they also have said stuff like we are you and you are us. They kept emphasizing that they are next to us, they're not above us, they're next to us. Like they're here with us, they're next to us, they're not hovering above us or like up in space, they are actually here next to us. Which sounds weird. I don't know what that means fully but that's what they've said over and over. We are next to you, yeah. So why are they talking to you and what do they want? I know that's a big question. Yeah they have told us that they are here to help with something and at least to my experience they've kind of also been quite elusive when it comes to explaining exactly what that is. But at the same time they've told us that they're here to help us adjust to this shift in consciousness that they say is coming and that they basically just want us to realize that we are way more powerful than we think we are. I'm not just talking about us for like everyone, every single person, every human is also multidimensional and that this is something they want to help us understand. And they're telling you this over text. Yeah. Yes. Did they tell you anything else about this shift or when it is coming? No. Well I mean it's happening but they didn't say like at this exact moment in this exact year it will be fully complete or whatever but my impression at least was that it's happening now. Yeah. Did they tell you anything else about themselves or their interest in you us? That's what they said that they're here to help because they are concerned about the state of humanity which sounds so grandiose and I guess maybe it is but yeah that they're here because they're worried about how things are going and that they want to help. It's not like they're gonna come to save us but the way I have understood it is that they maybe want to try to help us save ourselves in some way. Yeah. But it sounds so dramatic. I am saying it out loud but... I understand. So how were they helping? Well they were working on us which sounds really strange but that's something they told us through text that they were working on us. I can't fully explain what that means but they were working on our nervous system and also like our I guess our energy field and they explain that working with them can be quite demanding like you need to be I guess energetically strong enough to be able to handle it because it can be hard on the system because we're not used to those types of energies. So that's what they wanted to help us with to sort of adjust and be able to be around those energies. So when they were working on us it would I can only speak from my own experience but it would make me feel quite strange in my body in different types of ways like often it would start with a headache like this pressure around the top of my head and it would feel like I was wearing a helmet that was too tight and then I could have this feeling of my body as if it was shrinking and expanding at the same time. I can't explain it any better than that I think and and it could make me feel very very heavy or very very light as if I was about to kind of be pulled out of my body and it could feel like I was being pulled out of like the top of my head and really like you know this feeling of like almost as if you're about to faint but it's not exactly the same but just like I guess you could compare it to when you're on an airplane and the plane takes off and you feel the g-forces on your body and it can make you feel like you're kind of floating a bit or like yeah it can make you feel strange in your body. It could be kind of similar to that. It could make me really tired and so I could go lay down and have an app and I would feel as if someone was like tapping on my third eye with the finger and it could also feel as if someone was like inside my brain like roaming around like as if someone was like I don't know how to explain it but not like yeah as if someone was like physically doing something in there. And they told you this was them doing it? Yeah. What would they say? For example if we had that weird feeling we would text them and ask is this are you doing this to us is that why we're feeling weird? And then they would either confirm or say no this is just you being tired or something but and then they would sometimes also explain why they were doing it like we're doing this to help you with balancing your emotions for example or like it's like so many layers but it was both they were working on us to I guess adjust to the energies but also it could cause a lot of emotional reactions which I guess is not that hard to imagine when you're going through such intense stuff. They did say to us that it was very important for us to push through our fear and that that's part of the reason why things were so intense and so extreme in the beginning like seeing things fly through walls and stuff like that that it was a part of it was that we it was important to sort of release fear somehow like if if we have fear it will also be very difficult for them to reach us because that kind of stops that blocks the communication in a way so that we had to sort of be faced with a situation that was scary to us but still go through with it like when me and Sarah were told to go outside at first time and we did it and then we walk like a few meters and then we stop and then they tell us to keep going we walk a few more meters and stop and they tell us to keep going it was like we were like slowly sort of pushing through our fear of meeting them because we didn't know what that was going to be like. So another strange thing that happened was this this happened that this to me and Sarah maybe also to my mom I'm not sure if my sister has experienced it but this weird feeling in in my throat which kind of felt like tiny hiccups but it it also kind of felt like having pop rocks in my throat and this like popping sensation and with Sarah this thing what could be so strong that you would actually hear this weird like clicking sounds from her throat you could hear that it wasn't coming from her mouth because you can easily produce that with you know with with your tongue but it was like coming from her throat which was so weird. Okay so I actually have a recording of these sounds this is a video that was filmed of Sarah while she was sleeping it's completely dark you literally can't see anything but you can definitely hear it and the sounds are pretty strange. I still get that sometimes which is strange but it's not that strong it's just like yeah this feeling of having pop rocks in my throat. Were you scared when this stuff is happening to you? Yeah or do you mean like the working on us or in general like working on us? Oh both I guess yeah. Yeah for sure at least in the beginning I was terrified because I didn't understand what was going on and I didn't really have time to process it like it was just happening and it was so intense from the very beginning like it wasn't like a slow build up it was just like very intense very from the very beginning so it was extremely overwhelming and it's impossible to fully take it in as it's going on so it's like yeah. And did you feel that what they were doing was having an effect or making a change? I remember shortly after this whole thing had started to happen I was at the grocery store and I was just standing in line and sometimes they ring this bell if they need help in the if the cashier needs help so they were ringing this bell and I remember it was like excruciatingly loud suddenly like I've heard that sound so many times before but suddenly it was like as if my hearing had been amplified I just felt like a layer had been ripped off if that makes sense like before I was walking around with this like protective layer around me or something and suddenly that layer had been removed and everything felt very intense and that was a bit challenging. All right we'll be right back after this quick break. This episode is brought to you by first leaf. I'm definitely the type of person who doesn't like to show up empty-handed. 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they were you know so-called working on us and that it's basically like these seven i guess levels of consciousness if that makes sense these three first levels are more connected to the earthly realm sort of and the material realm and like our physical bodies and like our emotions and their relationships we have and how they impact us and and stuff like that you know like your normal everyday life i guess and then the fourth one has to do with the heart and they explain that the heart is sort of how you connect the earthly realm with the celestial realm or i don't know if that's the right word it goes through the heart that's how you connect the two and so the fifth then has to do with intuition and then i think the six and the sevens are like developing that part of your consciousness even further if that makes sense like that's a very simple version of it i wouldn't say that it makes sense but i think i get it no as much as i can that's the most important thing i guess yeah did you get did you get through these do you go through them like and how far did you get into this well yeah they did say that we did like when when we me and Sarah went down to the lake that first time for example they would text my mom updating her about which portal i was in so suddenly i think when we were down by the lake there were like now surivis in the fourth portal yeah i know this sounds really really crazy i mean i don't i don't think so i think it's really interesting but i guess my question is do you feel like you understand this stuff like do you have a grasp on these things that they were trying to teach you like the portals and everything i'm still confused i feel like i have a bit more of an understanding of it now than i did but i still don't fully understand it like it's still very strange to me i like i feel like on some level it's like i can accept it but talking about it makes me feel very strange because i feel like i'm repeating something someone has told me but i don't really know what i'm saying if that makes sense yeah yeah and that's why i feel weird speaking about it i think i think if you were speaking with more confidence in it i would be suspicious if that makes sense you know yeah did you ever did you ever see them not apart from the time where we saw this kind of holographic shadow like figure that was in the last episodes in the window when we were coming up from the lake all three of us oh oh you you think that was that yeah who else would it be i don't know i don't know i'm doing my best i'm doing my best to understand all this i think a ghost wouldn't be that big if it was just like you know a normal ghost i guess it wouldn't be that big nothing is normal in this conversation so like where do we decide to draw these lines i don't know i think we i think we crossed it a long time ago already probably if we didn't cross it we're about to cross it in this episode that's for sure yeah so what did that thing look like to you and you think it was them because your sister barely described it well it just looked like a large like a silhouette of a very large being that sort of had the shape of a person that was way bigger but it was just like a shadow like figure it didn't have any colors or any like we were quite far away we were kind of halfway up to the house and then we saw this big figure in the window but yeah like it didn't look like it was like a physical being but like it had i don't know how to describe it but like a large shadow kind of that's what it looked like obviously you had a lot going on with the phones was there any other stuff happening with electronics in general when this stuff was going on it would affect technology and electrical devices like our phones would run out of battery really fast which i know that can happen when your phone is old but then we would buy new phones and it would happen again with the new phone but the battery would just like run out extremely fast also when we sometimes because we we try to document a lot of the stuff and sometimes the camera would just stop filming stuff like that like it would just and it wasn't out of battery it would just stop filming like in what way well like when when the three of us were down by the lake the recording that we have is from this handheld digital camera you can't see anything because it's so dark you just hear us basically but then at some point it just stopped filming and we hadn't stopped it the camera wasn't dead and that happened several times that it just stopped filming i don't know why alluded to this you said that they had would ask you to take pictures of yourselves yeah and that sounds really bad that sounds really weird but what what do you mean by that like often if we were laughing and having fun and being silly they would text us a very encouraging message that they were super excited that we were being silly and they would sort of write stuff like having fun being silly yes you know like it sounds so weird but they would send sort of messages about them expressing their excitement about us having fun and being silly together yeah and then they would sometimes ask us to take pictures together like of each other together and then when you send it to them no we would just no no we wouldn't send them to anyone we would just take the pictures with our phones we wouldn't send them and they would and sometimes the pictures were just changed like we took the pictures then we looked at them and then the pictures would be different from when we took them like what so we would take pictures and then look at them afterwards and like immediately afterwards they would be changed and sometimes there would be these colors on them suddenly that we didn't see when we were taking the picture and then we looked at it straight after taking it basically and then there would be these colors on them which was really weird it kind of looks like when you're taking doing like analog photography with expired film you know it can look like this get this trippy effect where the colors are totally like bleeding into each other and and it kind of could look a bit like that there was this time where me and Sarah were filmed as we were sleeping on the couch when her apartment was docked and we were the only ones in the apartment and the whoever was filming us was moving around it wasn't just from one angle it was like moving around and on this video as well you could see like I don't have the video which is super annoying I have a screenshot of it and in the screenshot you can see these sort of colors that are bleeding in on the top and the bottom kind of like these purplish colors so you guys woke up and found a video in Sarah's phone of you and her sleeping and somebody walking around the room filming you with the phone while you were asleep is I'm understanding that correctly mm-hmm like this stuff is the stuff I'm most uncomfortable with talking about because I know how crazy it sounds like the going down to the lake and seeing those things flying through walls is so unexplainable that it's it's more tangible but this stuff is less tangible and I think that makes it easier to uh to doubt so I think it's just when I speak about it I hear what it sounds like and uh I just guess I think like is anyone gonna be able to believe this stuff like it's weird seeing any of the stuff related to this because I don't know you think that seeing a picture would be like proof with all the videos and pictures it's like oh well this could be fake yeah at a certain point it's like what photo would prove it to me you know and even if you guys did show me like a full-on picture of an alien I would be like oh that's definitely fake that must be fake more than anything you know yeah I mean it's very hard to prove anything like this with a photo or a video or with any type of documentation really to be honest like the documentation we have for me it felt more like I was it was something I was doing for myself to prove to myself that this was something that happened like the pictures I took when me and Sarah were standing in the lake was I think more than anything something I did for myself so I knew that it wasn't just something I had dreamt or imagined or that it actually happened when they would so strange to discuss I'm sorry um so you guys would be having fun together somewhere and they would know this where would where would you guys be is it different places like yeah like any way for them or somebody to know that you were doing this no it was I mean lots of different places in my mom's house in Sarah's house in this cabin in Spain in France like it would be lots of places like it wasn't like enough that like it would be impossible for somebody to be doing this yeah like a person yeah yeah yeah that's really weird yeah I feel the same so you guys would be giggling and joking around and these things would text you saying like I'm so happy you guys are having fun type of they didn't say exactly that but that was kind of the message just like yes yeah but of course like the weird thing is that they they would be they knew what you guys were doing yeah that is so strange I mean all of this is strange but that's very strange because yeah in hearing this story my brain's constantly oscillating between so many different theories about this right like and the main one that I keep going back to is like what if there's somebody doing all the stuff you know it's like that's really weirder though almost it is it is definitely weirder especially that they would do it for eight years that's an extremely dedicated stalker how did you know it wasn't like what things made you know it was not well mainly the objects flying through walls and stuff like that but oh yeah I haven't heard of a stalker doing that before but also just the fact that it happened in lots of different places and you know like this house that my mom lived in is super it's really on the countryside like it's walking to the neighbor takes like at least 15 minutes like it's quite isolated so it's not easy for a person to just like hide out there and it wouldn't have it couldn't have been just like one evening it would have to be several days over many many years yeah I don't know there's also been a strange part of this like I've I've tried to look for people who have experienced the same as me or who has had similar experiences at me and I haven't really found it the last few years you see all these people all over the internet calling themselves star seeds and I think most of them sound like they're very disconnected with the world or with reality or just they just seem yeah I don't know it's just most of those people kind of freaked me out a bit and maybe that's also just a part of me that's that's still really confused about everything that I've experienced and I think what's been really confusing for me in all of this is that I've struggled to find people that I can relate to in all of this if that makes sense like the people who talk about this stuff on the internet I don't feel like I can relate to them they just seem you don't believe you don't believe the people that you see on the internet is that what you're saying no yeah that's what I'm saying you think they're making making it up and so it probably makes you wonder are you making it up yeah it makes me confused about my own story and because you see them and you're like that's a crazy person yeah I do I think that too yeah I'm like that's a person pretending yeah but I don't think you're pretending no no I'm not but I some yeah just something that's up until you're experiencing it you don't think it's possible and then it happens in front of your eyes and then it scares you because it's just something you've never experienced before and and that's scary in itself yeah I don't know it's just really confusing I think the struggles were on to be honest like many different levels the first one was of course is this even real is this really happening who's doing it who could be behind it and then when I experienced the things I experienced I realized that it was real but then it's like how can it be real how does this being real fit into my understanding of reality in general and my understanding of myself and other people and you know so it's like your whole perception of reality is like falling apart and you have to build it up again somehow and that's difficult to do especially when you're 21 you barely know who you are yourself you know so and then all of this stuff happens and you have to completely rearrange your understanding of reality it's yeah and I also for sure had many moments where I wondered if I had lost my mind if I had just imagined everything somehow or if we had all just imagined it somehow that we had like tricked each other and started believing a lie in your moments of skepticism and doubt where does your mind go like what are your skeptical theories well I couldn't I couldn't have like one alternate theory for the whole thing if that makes sense because there wouldn't be one thing that just explained everything definitely in the beginning I wondered if Sarah was behind the texts and the phone calls but then I also saw so many times that it happened when she wasn't near her phone and her phone was turned off for out of battery and stuff like that um like to be honest with you like I had the things I saw that first night when me and Sarah went down to the lake were so extreme that I couldn't explain it away anymore and that happened quite fast that was like a week after my mom told me maybe all of that stuff happened and but before that for sure I thought Sarah was tricking my mom and that my mom maybe wanted to believe it and went with it and yeah Sarah and my mom kept having quite intense experiences so they kind of stayed in it for much longer than me and my sister did and kept going further into this stuff and further into the communication with these beings and kept it going for years she ended up staying with Sarah so they were living together and having all of these experiences together and it became quite all-consuming it was strange to to deal with like my our mom had basically gotten a third daughter overnight yeah they they um for them it became a very big part of their lives for quite a long while and are they are they still doing this uh no they are not I mean they don't speak anymore do you still speak to Sarah at all she kind of ended things quite abruptly uh and then we didn't speak for a year and then we met to talk which was really nice then we've sort of talked about meeting but it never happened and now she reached out to me again after hearing the first episode so we'll see if we will be able to meet this time yeah but we have really haven't spoken much in the last four years at all did something happen that made her go MIA like that yeah I mean I don't fully know because she hasn't really explained it to us but I think it's probably a mix of different things but I think this was too much for her and she wasn't really ready for it and yeah some pretty weird things happened yeah she just needed to break out of it and live a normal life what what kind of stuff was happening with them were they telling you this stuff or like how much do you actually know yeah so one really strange thing that they experienced was that suddenly there would be this hole spoke through their skin which looked like someone had like pricked the hole through their skin with the needle and it would be in different points on the body like my I think Sarah had it maybe like five of these holes poked on the side of her hand and then she had several holes in a line down by her ankle um and I'm sure there it had been different places on the body as well but a few months in this poking happens to Sarah again that they poke holes in her through her skin but it happens on her cheek in the exact same pattern that I have on my cheek like the the moles I have on my cheek they poked the same pattern on her cheek which is really absurd what did you think about that when you heard this I remember I was I got I honestly I got really freaked out I was at work at this bar so I wasn't really in a situation where I could take it in you know super busy Saturday night and I just see this message and I just have to go back to serving people which was really absurd and yeah it freaked me out like a part of me wondered if she had done it and that was kind of creepy if that was the case but it was even more freaky if these beings had done it like both scenarios were scary yeah maybe you should talk to my mom about it I know for sure that some really strange stuff happened but she will be able to tell you more of the details [Music] all right next time I will be speaking with Solvai's mom this episode was a lot part of the reason the series took so long for me was because I spent a lot of time just sitting with this information for long periods of time I would even go months without working on this at all just to take a little break and I think you may understand why a little bit better after you hear the next episode if you didn't hear the bonus episode on patreon last week I even did a very unscientific test of sorts on Solvai and this whole story I sent her to see Wendy this clairvoyant woman who was on a previous series of the show and I made sure Wendy knew nothing about Solvai in advance I honestly think I was testing them both a little bit at the same time I just wanted to see what she would say and if she would see anything at all and that reading was very interesting especially considering some of the things discussed in this episode so that brings us to the end of this part this has been them part three seven portals and you've been listening to other world other world is executive produced and hosted by myself Jack Wagner the theme song is by cobra man the 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