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2793: Nationwide. IYD: How does the government address Local Challenges of Young Innovators and Entrepreneurs Digital Innovation?
(upbeat music) Nationwide, we bring you latest current issues, discussions and information. (upbeat music) Nationwide, I'm Gregory Miraya. - Hello, good evening. Hey, listening to Nationwide. My name is Sani Martin. We are coming to life from Juba on these international U.S. Day. Today, as we celebrate the day, South Sudan joined the rest of the world in celebrating the international use day under the theme from clicks to progress. And use digital pathway for sustainable development. It's a special occasion that's dedicated to celebrating the vital role of young people in our society and also recognizing their contributions to development more specially in South Sudan where 75% of the population are young people. So, how is the government addressing the local challenges of our young innovators and entrepreneurs in terms of digital innovation, engaging at the advantage and promoting digital literacy for the use in South Sudan? This is what we are going to be discussing was opposed to have a city of my guests here in the studio, was opposed to have the director of a library in the Ministry of Culture. And you were also supposed to have the director for business planning and research in the National Communication authorities, but they've just informed us this evening that they are unable to make it here. But I'm glad to inform you that I have a young guy here who is with me, Richard Ringo-Quatch-Malek, who is the technical manager, South Sudan Robotics Association. Good evening and happy international use day to you. Welcome to the evening. - Good evening, thank you for having me. - Okay, first of all, let's begin with telling us more about yourself. I know your name is already Richard. Tell us more about this robotic association before we go into day to day. - Okay, my name is Richard Ringo-Quatch. I'm the technical manager, as he mentioned. And the role that we are doing in this robotic program and how it was initiated. - What is it, what is it, first of all? - South Sudan robotic association was established in 2017 with the aim to promote STEM education to engage youth in STEM education. That means STEM stands for science, technology, engineering, mathematics. - Okay, in the University of Juba or in almost all the public universities. - We are located in University of Juba STEM Center and we also supported by STEM Power Organization and we extended it to states. But then the states that we have extended these robotic programs do not have much facilities, but we are planning to expand this more and more. - So what kind of facilities are you looking for? - The facilities that we are looking for, this include the equipments for robotics, more equipments to train more students. The equipments that we have here, they are few and we cannot disappear to all the STEM centers across the country. - Right, today is international use day and why is this day very important for South Sudanese use? - Today it is very important because youth are the engine of every country. I mean like they are the backbone for the progress of every country. And you know, in South Sudan, we have a high percentage of youth in the country. And if we celebrate this important day, we also bring in the innovation. And that means if we engage our youth through innovation, that means we are actually helping our country towards the sustainable goals and development. - And I am sure you have seen the theme for DCS International Use Day, which is from clicks to progress. Use digital pathway for sustainable development. This is within your robotics system, right? - Yeah. - So why is this thing very significant for South Sudan? Is it applicable for South Sudan? - It is applicable for South Sudan because so far when we started this initiative in 2017, we have reached a large number of students and most of these students, they are mindset towards education and STEM education towards technology as change. And most of them have started now dreaming big that they want to become future scientists, future engineers, future doctors and some of them go to scholarship and they are outside their shining. - Okay. And some of my questions are the preferred to give, to ask the government officials, I will just twist them around and find out whether, because the questions were directed to the director, but the answers would have been given to the use. When you talk about your initiative to create or produce young scientists in this country, some of them have already got a scholarship and are studying abroad right now. What kind of support are you getting from both the government and maybe partners? - So little support, it's only University of Juba that is trying its best to support us by providing us with internet accessibility and a little space. But University of Juba cannot extend to other states, it's only within University of Juba supporting the students, the youth that are within University of Juba's STEM Center. And with all this, there is no my support. The government need to at least come in and support us and other NGOs also. - What kind of support do you want? - We need resources and when I mean resources, some of these educational materials like things to do with technology are not phone here in South Sudan. And that means if we are to produce our own equipment here, we need to have machines that produce them. So we need support in terms of resources. We need also to reach outside there. And to reach outside, to reach everyone, that means we need more resources as well, facilitation to reach everyone, especially this youth that do not have access to technology. And other support that we need, we need more teachers to be trained in this field. Like I'm the only one handling this program, training them. And you know, the number is too much. - So how many people are we talking about here? And as the technical manager for South Sudan Robotics Association, how are you keeping the youth with digital skills through your training? - So how I'm keeping them through this training is like, I am actually mobilizing this youth, bringing them together and then have their ideas, share and then train them in this field. And so to encourage them, that means I'm using the youth to engage other youth to join me in our centers where we do the training. That means I've covered a large number of youth. Now when I'm training them, I'm actually training them and I'm using them to train other students, other youth. So it means that I'm trying to expand to reach everyone through the student that I've already trained. - What are some of the key challenges you are facing in your robotic association? Because I am just trying to imagine one of the key issue here is you need a lot of internet to do you as such. And given how expensive data is in this country, it should be an nightmare for you. - Yes, there are a lot of challenges that we are facing. First of all, the lack of infrastructure. I mean by this, this includes the internet, the space and all this because the space that we have is less, it cannot take hundreds of students and there are hundreds of students interested to join this program. And we have also limited access to internet. That means the high cost of internet in the country is too much. And every day there is increase of buying data using my cell phone and then shared hotspot to the student to have access to internet. It's quite challenging. And then university do not have that much data. I mean like internet to support us because the university is big and they are also struggling with their huge number of students trying to use internet. Other things, training materials are the problem. The few resources that we use for training students are less. So we keep on dividing number of students to be trained per different session which is too much and time consuming. - How many are we talking about here? - We are talking about 200, 300 students coming from 18 schools within Juba. And the love can only accommodate 30 students. So we have to keep them, we have to divide them in groups. - So from 18 schools, you can only at the mid-sati? - Yeah, per session. And sometime also they have classes going on throughout the week. So it is only Saturday that we have a chance to train them. And during holidays. So if it is holidays, we groups them. Maybe tomorrow this, I mean today one school will be trained. The next day the other school will be trained, something like that. But then during their school days, it's quite challenging. The other challenge is funding and sponsorship. Of course, when we train this student, they want to continue with their career, their dreams to further their studies. Using their skills, their acquires. But most of the student do not have a chance to go for a scholarship. So I do not have a connection where I can actually connect this student to go for further studies. And I know there are potential student that can change our country when we allow them, when we give them opportunity to study. Then the other thing is, you know, maybe cultural differences. Because some student that, for example, those one that are in IDP, if I invite them to come, they feel like it is not safe for them to come to parties. And that means there must be someone, at least to facilitate or convince them. Because they're also South Sudanese, and they need this knowledge. That is the only thing we can unite them. Uniting these different cultures, different ethnic throughout technology. And more, more challenges that we are facing. - How do you think the partners and the government well wishes can help you address this? - To, a government and partners should come in through to help our platform grow. - What do you want the government first of all to do? - We need support. We need support, for example, when we are invited for international trade, we don't have access to visas. And that is when we get exposed to these international donuts. But we do not have access. So this is important. Then within here, we also, we need government to support us and make more awareness. That is the only way we can achieve this. We need more teachers to be trained in this field. We also need resources, such as training materials to be provided. Because these things are both, you have to buy them. And when you buy them to cover our centers, or we have more plenty so that we train the student, yeah, that thing would have helped a lot. - In your analysis, where do your things should be, the starting point for this country to produce more young and vibrant innovators? Is it in primary school, secondary school in the universities? - Actually, let's say in other countries or in China, the innovations start from primary school. When the child is still young, they grow with that thinking, creativity. By the time they reach high school, they are already innovating something. So, I suggest government should invest in promoting innovation and creativity from primary, by teaching curriculum-based activities, like high schools. I mean, in high school also, we need to produce practical classes. There are no practical exams. Now, everything is based on theory. So, high school also needs to be considered. Let's introduce practical classes, or practical exams, so that we have passed, I mean, examination, practical, paper one, paper two, and so on. So, by this, we have pushed our youth into innovation. And when you practice, hand-on skills, that's where you understand the concept properly. - Okay. And given all the challenges, the perception, people have about this country, and all the challenges people are talking about, like, for example, people who are in the States, very difficult for them to have access to internet, access to smartphone, access to laptops or computers, or access to have power. Is it possible to produce young, energetic, and people who can be very good innovators in this country and also compete? Like, other countries, like, for example, here in the neighboring countries? - It is possible when government is involved, because government is everything, you know, they can provide support. They make sure all the States have access to all these resources. So, government can play a very important role in this, 'cause I'm here doing my best with little, I have. - So, this question is supposed to be directed to the right person. - Okay. - The people in China. - We are hoping to just be informed that Jacqueline Romano, the Director of Library and the Minister of Culture is almost joining us shortly, and they will be talking to her as he joins us right away. And you are listening to, my name is Ani Martin, and today is International Youth Day, and we are looking at government's vision for technology in US development. And the theme for today's International Youth Day is from clicks to progress. Use digital pathway for sustainable development, and you have heard from Richard Oring, Quatch, and he is telling us more about the challenges they are going through. 18 schools sending over 200 students to government participate in this innovation, but at least the session, the process in the government only has 30 people, and you can imagine also the issues of data, or bundles, or whatever you may call them, or internet is this common, you know, in South Sudan. It's also a challenge. You need a lot of money to subscribe for like one hour, 12 hours, you have to have at least from 10,000 SSP, and above, and you need to do a lot of research. Our lines are open. You can call us on 0912079 or 091206950, or you can send us your comment or SMS number 0912177141. Those are all our lines, you can call. If you are a young person listening to us this evening, please do call us and get in touch. As a young person, you must be in the person to do something that can help you instead of depending on handouts from your relatives, because you never know, the world is advancing things are changing on daily basis. Keep your SMS coming, and I will be reading some of them as they come in right away. (upbeat music) Broadcasting from the heart of the nation's capital, this is Radio Mariah. (upbeat music) 101 and 101.5 FM. Radio Mariah, the voice of peace. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (bell ringing) (singing in foreign language) (singing in foreign language) (singing in foreign language) (singing in foreign language) What a clean and safe environment. Protect our forests, protect our water sources, protect our air from pollution, take care of our motherland society, so our motherland can take care of our school. With the children of South Sudan, want a protected South Sudan. (singing in foreign language) (singing in foreign language) (laughing) (upbeat music) - Nationwide, we bring you latest current issues, discussions and information. (upbeat music) Nationwide, I'm Radio Mariah. - Hello, welcome to the program once again. My name is Sunny Martin and I'm glad to inform me that I have Jacqueline Romano, who is the Director of Library in the Ministry of Culture, Good evening and welcome to Redeemer. - Good evening. - Yes, first of all, you have got us halfway already. We were trying to find out about the international use of the government's vision for technology and use development. Let's look at it. What kind of support is the government giving to young people in this country who would like to come up with some kind of innovation to support the development of this country? Because everything in today's world is digital. - Actually, the Ministry is gonna support every each youth for technology and to grow up well. And I think every like organization or what else, whatever, I think they're gonna also help the youth for engage. - So at the moment now, what kind of support is the Ministry rendering for this youth? What kind of support is there any support? Maybe it's your partner's, which you're gonna remember? - (speaks in foreign language) - Mm-hmm. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) - Okay, (speaks in foreign language) Yes, we already have questions coming in here via our SMS number. A lot of them actually going to Richard, about four questions coming in right here. First question is from Deng in Juba. He says, "Thank you so much Richard for your creativity." He would like to find out from you, are you only based or stationed in the University of Juba? And if yes, he wanted to know what are the requirements for people who have finished the university and are still under the edge bracket of a youth, but he would like to come and join you. What are the criteria for one to join you? That's from Deng here in Juba. Another question is also is coming in here from no name. For us in Malakar in Appanayan state, most of the youth are redundant in the IDP camp or in POCs. He wanted to find out with the budget constraint you are talking about, is it possible for you to also expand your services to Appanayan state so that the idle youth who are just doing nothing can get engaged non-name from that SMS. Coming from Malakar, about your extension of the services in Malakar. Another question here is also going again to Richard. I said, "Thank you so much Richard. "Could you give us a success story "from your robotic association that has so far "made it to certain level? "What are your success stories?" That's from Joan in Monarchy here in Juba. Let's begin with those ones. Yes, Richard. Okay. Thank you. First of all, I would like to answer Deng in Juba. The criteria. Yes. You know, our platform is not only helping this youth that are still in primary or high school. We are also helping those one who drop out or who are finished university and they have nothing to do. You can come and learn coding. But then the criteria of joining is like, you must be from science background. Yeah. 'Cause it is in your high school, you must have done sciences because our mission is to promote STEM education, sciences. We want everyone to be, you know, to be a scientist. That's our mission. And if you are coming from science background, yeah, it is, you have a chance to come and join us. That's number one criteria. That's number one. Then the other one is some time, each limit. Of course, you cannot come when you are in 50s. Then you come to be trained here. You know, it will be very difficult to understand this concept. You need more teachers to come and, you know, unless when we have a different point. What is the edge limit? The edge limit is for the student that are in high school, it is 20 below. And then for university, it is 30 below. OK. So this is our edge limit. But you are 35 and above, it is difficult for me to, you know, because science concept, you need basic understanding slowly until you reach through that limit. I mean, to that level where you can, you know, because robotics program, it involves so many things. You need knowledge of computer science to be able to handle. You need knowledge of mathematics to be able to do coding. Because each part of robots need to be programmed using math ideas. And then you need also mechanical knowledge, mechanical engineering. That is mechanics for you to assemble and design, come up with parts that can do some tasks. Yes, like the robots that we have there, they are designed to do some tasks like agricultural robot that we designed. It has to do spraying, it has to do collecting weeds, removal of weeds in the garden. So you have done that in the universe of robots. And I think I talk about it yesterday about this program, the other day on Saturday. OK. And that's part of the answer of success story. Because one of the pressure. Yeah, I will come to it later. Then when we look at, I mean the matter coming from Malachal. Yes, because of limited resources, we cannot extend. But I remember STEM power that is supporting us somehow was planning to extend STEM center lab in Malachal. But this STEM lab are equipped with a state of art equipment. That cannot be installed in any basic high schools without teachers. You know, when you install these equipments, you need also teachers to manage and train students. So that program, that initiative started in 2022. But then University of Malachal was not shifted to Malachal. So we could not take it there. OK. So after now, it's still hanging. And in future, in Charlotte, something will happen. That will benefit IDPs or everyone there in Malachal. Yeah. That is the only state that do not have STEM center. And when it comes to success stories. So far, since the starting point when we started in 2017, we started with only five students. And up to now, we have reached more than-- let's say we have trained over 500 students. And this 500 students, some of them participated in international robotic competition. The first group that participated in this competition went to Washington DC. And we won the gold medals. Though the media did not fish around for South Sudan to know about this, we had the first South Sudan group to wear gold medals. Yeah, maybe-- So how many countries participated? 160, that was the first. And then your group, your own gold medals. There were five students that participated in that. And in 2019, we participated in Dubai. And that was 2019. We were number 46 out of 190 countries. Though we didn't win any gold medals, we tried our best. Yeah. And in 2023, last year, we went to Singapore. And we represented South Sudan very well. How many of you went? We were 100 and-- From South Sudan. We were five. I mean, we're seven, two mentors, five students. We were 154. And apart from all this, exposing our student, waving our flag, then, internationally, we also had our local science fair here, where five states participated. And Dubai Woon, yes. Woon this robotic program. Because we came up with innovation that was used in agriculture field. The robot that we designed was designed to collect weeds in the garden. So this is a highly-- So in a very layman's language, this robot is like a human being and can go and do-- Yeah, agriculture. Cleaning the garden. Assisting farmers in the garden. And this was a prototype, but we are thinking big. How long can it work? The whole day, well, this depends now in future. When we are going to build a bigger one, we can mount solar on it. Because a robot needs energy to do it sometimes. OK. 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