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Jays Tough Weekend + The Future of Breaking

Brent Gunning and Matt Marchese kick off The FAN Morning Show recapping a busy sports weekend. They recap the Olympics, their NFL preseason viewing habits, and the Jays weekend series against the Oakland A’s. They analyze the team’s deadline moves, how the Jays performed this weekend, and talk about their favourite summer Olympic events. Next, the guys get into Phil Wizard winning Gold at Breaking, how Breaking fared in its Olympic debut and what the future has in store for the sport (28:31).

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.

Duration:
50m
Broadcast on:
12 Aug 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

Brent Gunning and Matt Marchese kick off The FAN Morning Show recapping a busy sports weekend. They recap the Olympics, their NFL preseason viewing habits, and the Jays weekend series against the Oakland A’s. They analyze the team’s deadline moves, how the Jays performed this weekend, and talk about their favourite summer Olympic events. Next, the guys get into Phil Wizard winning Gold at Breaking, how Breaking fared in its Olympic debut and what the future has in store for the sport (28:31).

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.

>> Monday morning. The restoration of the fan morning show crew and by that I mean they're still just like two regulars here. Matt Marquesi basically a regular at this point in time. He is he is here. That's not who I'm talking about though. It's a return of our fearless technical leader. Josh Santos. >> I'm just going to have a quick quick little two second update on Santos. They told me you were like a missus August steelheads fan. I didn't even know that about you, Sandman. So I learned something new about him while he was gone. I'm happy to have him back. But now it's like, again, we can't continue to build close every time you think your team's getting healthy. All we got a trip. We got non contact injury practice. I actually have no idea what's going on. Jeff has a party back with us tomorrow. David Siss behind the glass. >> I was about to say shepherding us through the program, but we're all shepherding each other through life. Let's just be honest. Matt Marquesi here alongside me. Frank Gunning here in the fan morning show. Marquesi. How are you doing on a Monday? I feel like I'm the utility man around here. Yeah. I feel like that can have a lot of meanings though, right? Like there's there's Ben Sobris utility man. Hey, and there's there's Kevin Bizio. I was going to say it. I was going to say it. Now what you want the the the Jack of all trades master of none. Oh, do you have a famous father? I'm unaware of? Okay. Maybe I should know. I don't know. No, I might. My dad does a radio show, but he's not famous. Okay. Okay. My neither. But you beat me on that. He doesn't even do a radio show. So Monday, Monday, Monday. Obviously, like, you know, Mondays at this time of year. We are mere weeks away from counting it down from big sexy lead season where we come in here and go like, Oh, this guy's a bomb. Nathan Roerks at me playing over him. Oh, man, you know, you're going to need to be able to see him. Oh, my goodness. How could Drake may have slipped to be the maybe bone nicks it more? Guys, we're not. I would love to tell you differently. We're not there yet. Unfortunately, Blue Jays again, like still capable of playing interesting games, except this weekend. No, again, I said capable. I didn't say it happened. So we like we can occasionally have that happen again against the areas wasn't exactly the banner story line. This weekend. So I thought the lead today. And again, we had the Olympics wrapping up and no disrespect for the four by 100 meter relay team. I feel like that's probably the biggest thing we're kind of sitting with, but sure. That feels 100 years ago now. I know it does. Pradita Felician told us they weren't going to win. And then eight minutes later, they won is what it feels like to me on our own. And then, and then a month ago, it happened. Right. Is that is how it how that's how it all tracks out. So we are going to get back into the Olympics, but I just got I had some suburbia dad stuff just going on this this weekend. Okay. So, you know, my wife and I, you know, I feel like all parents kind of go through this of like, and everybody's thresholds are different for what this is. But it's like, God, we like spoiled this kid too much. And I feel like everybody has that moment. And again, like everyone's threshold is different. So we're like, you know what we got to do? We got to have a low key subdued day where we do like fun things. But it's go to the park, you know, like not every day needs to be a 10 out of 10 adventure, whatever. So we're like, you know what? We're doing and we sit down. We have a chat. And I kid you not the second that happens. I got a big knock on the door and I'm like a knock on the like we have a doorbell. That's like, are the cops here? This is very familiar. And there are two great kids live down the street. And they're like, they're, they have, they're sitting there with like, it's a bicycle, but it looks like a motocross dirt bike. And they're like, Hey, does your kid want this? He's always talking about our dad's motorcycle. And he told us to come give it to you. And I'm like, I'm not going to look this gift horse in the mouth. So I'm like, of course. And I'm, I had every intention of just like putting it in the garage. We're going to do the thing. It's going to be a relaxed day with no presence. It's just we're going to live life. And then of course a present literally shows up at our front door. So he starts losing it. But again, he's three. So we can't really ride a bike without training wheels. So I got to go to the store. No free ads, but go to crappy tire. Okay. I put on, I buy the training wheels. Okay. Now this is where it turns into a real Homer Simpson building the grill situation of like me looking at the instructions. Look, grill. What the hell is that? And for something like you're sitting here training wheels on a bike. How hard could it be? Right? Little. Little. Little wrench of a little radio guys, little screw of a screw or whatever there. No, it's not that easy. There's like five settings on the top of it because they're adjustable. There's like five different settings on the bottom. So I put it on and I'm like, you know, I'm trying to think of like a training wheel supposed to be right on the ground. I'm like, now you want a little, little give, a little wobble. And no, I had too much give. I had too much wobble immediately. Faceplates. I feel like the worst father and is just feeding into every stereotype. My buds have of me of like, God, gunning couldn't swing a hammer. So you probably tried to put him on with the hammers. Like, they're glue. That'll work. So then I am just outside. My wife takes my kid inside. Playing with them. Windows are open because it's beautiful. And just you hear a lot of. Damn. Oh, man, why? Oh, my hands. I'm like beating up my head. What is going on out there? And finally, finally, I get them on. I'm so proud of myself. I'm like, buddy, get out here. I've got them on tight as can be. You're not going to fall. I put them on too high and he's pedaling, but the back wheel wasn't touching the ground. So it was just spinning and it basically became a stationary bike. Obviously, that was not going to cut it. So we're back to it again. We're back to the third time. I didn't even know you could strip bolts, but that's basically what I'm doing with the adjustable wrench at this point in time. Finally got it all taken care of, but something that it's just a classic. This is going to take me four minutes. I'm like, ah, how hard could it be? Unscrew, bolt, snap, snap, we're rocking. But I feel like I went to the store at 11 o'clock and I don't think the training wheels were on this thing until like four in the afternoon. I took like some breaks in there. I had to like mentally. But I actually did wonderful sandwiches, some hot sandwiches. My wife made up was wonderful. But God, just that was that was every, like every dad or uncle or whoever has been there where you're putting the thing together and you're like, how hard could it be? Snap, snap. No, it never is that easy. God, it felt like I was like building my Ikea furniture in college all over again. Yeah, it is. I've been there before with with certain things. My daughter's not like she doesn't have anything that's too intricate. Just yet. I was going to say just wait, but I am driving that day because like I'm always like, if I need something done. Yeah, I call my father-in-law because I'm not a handy. I had the wrench in my hand for a minute and a half and it wasn't like going the way I wanted to immediately call my bud Chris. I'm like, I can't do this. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, it's a wrench. I don't know. Turn it a quarter and turn it a time. Welcome to life. Yeah, this is this is how we do things in suburbia. No, but like it's so bad that my my daughter has realized that like she thinks we always told my daughter when we don't want her to have something. It's like, no, daddy's got to fix it. Got to fix it. My daughter believes in her brain that I am the fixer. Oh, I was going to say the other way. I'm like, that is really driving home the point very early on of like, yeah, it goes to dad to be fixed and never comes back. Yeah, well, that too. But she's also like, because she's seen my father-in-law come over and we've done like minor run-outs to the lawyer. Of course. And she says, wall, no, no fix. So, I mean, she's very aware of how this thing works in our house. But on the on the point of like, yeah, we're going to have a day where we're just, you know, it's going to be very low key and we're not going to, we don't need to go spend money or whatever. I had that a few weeks ago when I was off on vacation. And I mean, by vacation, I was sitting at home. But my wife's like, okay, what are we going to do? Well, staycation. Yeah, we were going to the zoo one day. We're going to do this. We're going to the cottage. We're going to, and I find, and then like the last two days, she's like, okay, what do you want to do? I'm like, nothing. Yeah, this sounds like you telling me about your honeymoon actually is exactly what this sounds like. You've been like, we walked around Italy. I just wanted to sit down five minutes. Yeah, literally five minutes. And I was just like, nothing. Because also, at one point, this has to end. You cannot just keep spending money. And not that my wife's a spender. No, I know. We're all, you're like, hey, let's not just sit around the house. And it's like, God, I did. I stepped one foot out my door, $800 gone. That's like that. I was having this conversation with some friends over the weekend. And it's the difference between most males and females. And it was like, you know, the joke was the wife, the wife goes out and she's with her friend and she finds out all this information. Sure. And then you're with your buddy for like eight hours. He just went through, and then like, he just went through a divorce and it's like, well, why did he get divorced? It's like, I don't know. Oh, the one my, so like all of my buddies are on and we'll transition to, I do have a like kind of sports topic coming out of, yeah, not this, but the weekend anyways, we'll transition to it in a sec. But my buddies, they're all on like having second kids now, right? So all their wives are in some flux of pregnant right now. And my wife is always like, Oh my goodness, how is so and so doing? How is so and so doing? I'm like, Oh, I don't know. I don't know. But Daniel swinging it. Great. The rapid is six iron. He had a little sling draw. It was awesome. So yeah, it's like the things we, things we focus on. So I mentioned it Olympics officially over now. We'll have one more day of reaction here. We'll talk to Andy Patrilo about it a little, a little later on in the show. But we do transition to the point back to the sports calendar where we all become Kenny powers of no, I don't. I do real sports and I try to be the best at exercise when we get back to our team sports here. But we like to think we always do the topic of what is the better time of the year of you like fall with the NFL starting up and baseball playoffs and hockey's beginning and basketballs back. Or do you like the spring with you got your Super Bowl and your masters and, you know, based in hockey playoffs and NBA playoffs and baseball bekins. I actually would like to very quickly right here. Said on what is the bigger dog days of summer because we all in this business. It is a knife fight at Ryan Fabro's desk every year to take off baseball all star break. Hey, I can't be here. There's no baseball going on. I dare say this feels more dog day than even in the dead of August. Like, I know we have NFL camps and I know there's NFL preseason going on, but that still feels like you're sifting for gold. It's like there's some stuff in there. You can find it, but you gotta work. You gotta get to the stream. You gotta like really, really dig there. I dare say, and I think part of it is that we're coming off the Olympics where it was live sports all the time in a thousand different stories and cheating scandals and, you know, a new fastest man in the world. And Canada went out like there's a million stories every day to now it's like you go from that rush of Vegas to your, your back home and it feels like even more dead than it was before we left. I think, I think the determining factor, especially in this market is that the J's aren't very good because it would be more, it would be fine if the J's were, you know, every day would feel massive. Yeah. And you'd be in the midst of a playoff race and now you're looking at, well, who's going to be a part of this thing for next year and years and years following that. I think that's the biggest difference between this year and most years. Now, we also this year were lucky because let's face it. We had the Copa America and the Euro going on during which was a massive because I did that thing, the knife fight to try and get time off. You guys said to me, I need you this week. I went. Okay. I booked a golf trip right before and then it did not occur to me that I was coming back from a super boozy golf trip to try to put together topics during the all-star break that that jarring realization in the Edmonton airport. That was something you're just sitting there going. Oh, what a great vacation. I feel so relaxed. Good. You better time to put that thinking. Yeah. And so that that helped. But I mean. The thing is, is that when you're someone like myself, who is like way too involved in NFL preseason, I believe that everybody else is like that. Okay. So I could do that. And the people were like, who cares about the third string quarterback and Jackson? Those people are right. Yeah. So I just, I'm well, we did care last year, but only because it was our sweet prince Nathan. That's true. Who's now a friend of the show. We've had him on who's now unattached. He was cut by another team. So that to me is like, in my own brain, I think there's enough. But when there's, when I actually have to turn on this microphone, I'm like, yeah, this is, this is going to be a little light. But it's also an opportunity for us to, you know, we'll reflect on the Olympics, but also we'll be able to, we'll be able to come up with some things that maybe we wouldn't be able to talk about in the fall. Yeah. I just, I just had to highlight it because, I mean, you know, it's funny. It's the like sports radio by and large. I sound like Kevin Durant here is a, is a largely negative medium. Like we can, we can step to the mic and talk about how great teams are when they're great and we do it. But it does run a little dry of the gosh. Would you look at Willie Neelander show? Like eventually you do, even I, even my, and I feel like I like to be mostly positive about my sports. I do run into that. It is odd that that's the topic we always go to, but we never go to like, what's the bigger? What's the bigger dog day? And I think you're right. So much of it is just predicated on baseball team. Good. Yay or nay. If they're good, what dog days? What are you talking about? You're in a playoff fight or you're fighting for positioning or you're figuring out your rotation. And even this year with the, with the J's and the spot they kind of find themselves in, there are certainly some things that you're keeping tabs on. Like, you know, the players that all got added at the deadline and you'll see a handful of them already have seen a handful of them now. You can certainly keep that, keep an eye out for that. And it's, you know, about can Vlad stay hot. Ash. That's certainly the things you're looking for. But yeah, it's just so night and day different than fighting for a playoff spot or fighting for your seating or even again, like figuring out what order your starter is going to be. Yeah. Who's going to be the 26 man on your roster? We've also had those times. And albeit, it's been a bit since that's happened, but there were, there were times where the spring was like that. Mm hmm. Because the J's and the Maple Leafs weren't very, there was a time where the J's, Maple Leafs and Blue Jays were not. Children gather round. Yeah. Yeah. So we've been very fortunate in the city and it goes back to a conversation that we had last week about having that appreciation for teams that are consistently good. Generally speaking, the last, you know, three years, the J's have been in it. So this is a weird one for us over the last few years. But, you know, we also in those times were able to kind of get through it because we didn't have the Olympics and we didn't have, you know, I guess we had one meaningful soccer tournament in there. I guess we had the Euro and there's a World Cup in there too. So that stuff all helps. But boy, oh boy, you know, you look at, you look at the J's and you talk about this top. I don't even know if it's Topsy Tervy season because it just hasn't been all that good. But watching them against the Oakland Athletics and you're just like, boy, it's not rock bottom, but it sure feels pretty darn close. Well, it also is just so illuminating of how, I don't know, like ridiculous baseball is quite honestly right. You come off a series where you get two incredible starts. One from Basset, one from Gosman, the bats wake up a little bit. You take two or three against one of the better teams in your division in the Orioles and then baseball. And then the A's come to town and you look the way you did. It's just, it is why it's also, I think, why it's so hard to, you know, again, if we compare it to other sports, right? Like if Grady Dick at the end of the season pops off for three, four 20 point games. You're like, wow, this is, this is something. Look at this. This is a guy driving in a role. What does it mean? I don't know, but it doesn't mean nothing. Whereas I think that's the other thing with baseball is that you have to see it for so long. Like Joey low Perfito could come in and have an incredible start to his J's tenure. And if it's, you know, anything short of three weeks a month, everybody rightfully so is saying, hold on. We don't know what this means yet. I think that's the other kind of complicating part about all this is that you need such a track record before you feel like you're actually able to buy in where, you know, again, I know these teams are in different places. I know this guy showed something, but it's like Bobby McMahon had one hat trick and we're, all right, this is great. Let's talk about Bobby. You know, like one of these guys has a two bomb game. We'll talk about it, but it's much more of an anomaly than maybe a glimmer of something like it feels like it can be in other sports and obviously football is the biggest example. Yeah, because there's only, well, now 17 of them. Yeah, the baseball one is so fascinating too, because even if it was a month and it was September, you're like, yeah, yeah, that doesn't really work for me again. What's going on? Yeah, and so that so that part is. And it's also weird because to do that consistently in baseball is so difficult because you also have. You play almost every day. So you'd think that going to do that for two or three weeks would mean more, but it doesn't mean a thing. And that's the, that's the kind of frightening thing about all of this is that these guys could have, you know, a great finish to the season and you're looking at it going. Yeah, but who's really a part of this thing? Yeah, it is. It's just in the way it works out. You know, there's been a lot of, I don't know, consternation about the expanded playoffs in baseball. Now that the J's are kind of firmly on the other side of it this season anyways, right? Like, like you've mentioned so long as there have been expanded playoffs, the Blue Jays have been at the very least. A part of the conversation, if not a part of the playoffs every single one of those years. Do you feel any differently? Like, I think there are sometimes teams will. A year team, and I don't think the J's, you know, check this box this year, but the team you watch will miss out and you'll go, that seems unjust. It doesn't seem fair. This feels the, the expanded playoffs helps hammer home just how kind of brutal this season has been for the J's because in years past, you could say, okay, like they still would have finished where they finished, but just with where with the amount of wildcard teams ordered so much crowing about, well, this team could have deserved better. This team could have, I think with the expanded playoffs, you just have to look at the J's. And again, it just kind of like hammers home. How far they seem from it right now. Well, not only that, but I think that when you looked at the margins in which they made the playoffs the last two years, like they, they didn't have a great bullpen and they didn't pitch all that well, but the offense was really good. And then the following year it was, well, they pitched really well and they can't hit. You look at, you know, in accordance to that with the expanded playoffs, you're kind of just like, okay, where they are now is, I think they're probably worse than where a lot of people had expected. Just because, you know, there were opportunities there for them to, you know, have a good season because again, they're pitching staff looked really good last year, but they were ultimately extremely healthy. But you look at it and say, okay, in the grand scheme of things in the AL, where are these guys? And you could, you know, even before the trade deadline, when they moved a bunch of these guys, you're still not looking at them as a top 17. You're right, it really does drive home how far behind they are. And that's why, like, I keep coming back to this point, like, I, the path to, you know, being relevant in 2025 is a long, arduous process, because I was, I wanted to ask you this question. When you look at this lineup, right now, is there outside of Vladi? Is there one bat that you say, I need that bat in the lineup? Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's been the year from hell for this player. It's still Boba shed. Like, I'm not, I'm not done writing him off. Yeah, maybe we take him out of the equation, because I think you and I are both of the opinion. He is probably more likely gone than staying. I don't, I don't disagree. I, I actually, man, I still think it's more likely than not. He starts next season as a blueprint. You think he ends up getting to make me a deadline and they see how things go? I think, well, I think if you get to the deadline and you're a team that's looking to compete, you've effectively decided to walk in a free agency and I think they've kind of made their bed with that position. I think it's, you know, a little foolish, depending on the way things shake out, obviously. Yeah, I think you, you have that. And then I think there are, there are not bats that you say absolutely have in the lineup. I think they have players at positions that are not problems for them. Like Spencer Horowitz can be the second baseman on my team. Do I want somebody to, maybe not even platoon, but kind of push him for that job? Oh, look, David Schneider's right there. So I think he can kind of check those boxes, Dalton Varshome, not the bat I want, but playing the defense he does. You're not taking him out of the lineup. So I think that with those kind of, you look at Vlad, you look at Bo, you look at your kind of second base situation there and what's called a Schneider Horowitz. And then you have Varshow. And again, like Springer, I'm not bullish on him, but he also isn't going anywhere. And he is not, as long as George Springer is not your in pen lead off man, he's not the issue on this team. You don't look at, you don't want your lead off man doing what he's been doing. So I look at it and say, yes, the need for impact bad is absolutely there, probably two. But I also look at it as say, they have enough, they have enough guys that can check a box of decency or give them a fine enough floor that they should be able to go out and know what the three or four kind of things they're going to have to address. All right, that's a lot of work to fix three or four positions. But I also think it's not the, I think a lot of people look at this team and go, all right, Vlad's going to be here. Bo's gone. I don't like Varshow. So throw him overboard. They're not bringing in eight new position players next year. I mean, they might, they just might before Kevin Bezio is fighting to be the 26 guy on the roster. It's not going to be seven new starters that are there kind of five days a week kind of guys are just not going to happen. And that's, and that's kind of my point where I wanted to get at there was because, you know, that process is just, it's not one that I look at and say, like, can you acquire two or three impact bats in one off season? Like, that's a big, like, if you have a massive prospect pool and you have a budget that, I mean, Mark Shapiro said what he said about the budget, but I'm also of the opinion like, yeah, it's like him. I don't believe that it's going to be $230 million. No, I don't think it's going to be. I don't think it's going to be 200, though, either. Yeah, you're kind of in between. But even with that, you have, I think it's like $130 million locked up in seven guys. You still are going to eventually, not that you need to for next season for, for budget purposes, have Vladi under contract as well. But who are you going out and getting that is going to make this team relevant in 2025? They probably need at least one starter. Yeah. Okay. So this is like, this is a crazy thing to say. And I'm sure people out there about to punch. If you hear a lot of honking on the gardener or the DVP, my bad people. But, you know, you could make the other version of the Tiauskar Hernandez trade. You're allowed to flee somebody. You're allowed to have something of some value and make like these trades happen all the time, especially in this sport. It seems like there are more kind of fourth outfielders who have shown some power, but haven't had the opportunity or the utility infield guy who doesn't have a home. This sport feels like it exists. Like you could not go and trade for just some 35 gold guy like the J's were once able to just go and trade for Tiauskar Hernandez. So that's got to be the path. Like the idea of, yes, this is a very fair trade and we're going to go make our Gabriel Moreno trade again. Can't do it. You know why? You already did it. And it was Ferdinand Dalton Varsho. Not good. Sorry. I don't care how good the defense is. We've been there. Done that. Even if you wanted to go trade. I don't know, Ricky Tiedman. Probably not happening the year after he's had all the injuries. He has this season. Who knows what he's going to look like coming out of that? Alec Manoa. No value right now across the league. Not, not writing him off. Not saying he's getting on. But until he proves anything, that's how the rest of baseball is going to treat him. And that's why I think it all roads, not for us, but for a lot of people lead back to the Bechette trade. If you're going to make a trade that brings in either the pieces that allow you to do it or the. Hey, I got this shiny loony who wants to give me, you know, three quarters and a couple of dimes and a nickel. That's the trade. I think a lot of people foresee the problem with those trades is if one or two of those pieces doesn't pan out. You're cooked. And it's a terrible return for what the player is. So I think and I agree with that point that it happens a lot in baseball. I also think that it happens so much in baseball because unlike any other sport. Prospects are more overvalued in baseball than they are. And maybe overvalued's not the right. Well, it's overvalued and overhyped. I think those two things. I think they can go hand in hand. So I believe that that's why it could happen. The only problem is is and I know that people are listening to this and say, well, this front office has never fleeced anyone. And that's and I think that is kind of the concern among the fan base is that they don't believe that. You know, it's kind of the PTSD for them. They don't believe that this front office can make that trade where they are fleecing someone else. And I think that's the scary part about this off season is. I just again, maybe, maybe I don't believe that the path to success is there because I don't believe that it's there for this front office. Agree or disagree with. No, I mean, they've not shown it at all. So I would don't know why anyone would sit here and say they have the track record. You don't get. You don't just become that team when you've been the other end of that team kind of twice now with the, what the Moreno trade and then, and then you're looking at what they, what they gave up or into Oscar Hernandez for, I mean, quite frankly, nothing like where was Eric Swanson this year out of Mackel. Okay, magic bean. Let's see one day, one day, maybe it is. It's going to be a lot of these conversations the rest of the years trying to perfect or trying to project. Is there anything you could take out of it. And then I also think it's going to be about trying to read the tea leaves of what are roster, not so much roster moves, but just do we hear any more comments the rest of the way Shapiro has said his piece. I imagine Atkins like there's no reason for him to speak, but trying to read the tea leaves of what this front office is going to look like because we can sit here and have all questions about the machinations and, you know, what's in play and how many new bats they need. And is it trade is a free agency, probably a mesh of both. But I think the biggest question you nailed it there is, okay, who's making the decision. Is it Mark Shapiro is a James click. Is it really James, is it really Mark Shapiro with James click being the face of it is raw sack and still back next year. Did the deadline save him. I think these are all the questions that we have very little to go off, but we're going to spend the next, I don't know, two months really of the of the J season kind of kind of talking about here. We spent the last two weeks talking about a pretty fun Olympic games. I don't know if you saw this. I only saw it on the like on the Internet afterwards, because sorry, that's in here watching the three hour closing ceremony. Great job by everyone is portion of broadcast though. Let's just say that. But they handed it off to L.A. just in the most American way possible. No, Kenny Powers was not a part of another another star of the silver screen. So tell you what we're talking about on the other side of things fan morning show continues on sports now five night of the fan. Dive deep into Toronto sports and the NFL. The JD bunk is podcast subscribe and download the show on Apple Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Good morning show. Wow, that was the world's most accidental hitting of the post. I got to be honest. I would love to sit here and be like, oh, yeah, I did that on purpose nailed it. I did not. Sometimes, you know, I think it's just like the Canadian in me. They're like, that whole was there. He's literally got a maple leaf on the side of his hat right now. Cook him up a little hitting of the post to Blue Rodeo and I should let you know. The iconic Canadian rock band Blue Rodeo hits Budweiser stage on Saturday, August 24th, along with guests, Matt Mays and Bagonia to celebrate. We're giving away tickets all week long to enter. All you have to do is tune into the fan morning show. Listen for the code word then text the code word to 59590 standard message and data rates may apply. Today's code word is Rodeo text Rodeo to 59590 right now for your chance to win. We're giving away another pair of tickets tomorrow. But if you don't win with us, make sure you're on ticketmaster.ca to secure yours. Of course, message and data rates may apply there. I'm going to be at, I forgot what for to be perfectly honest, but I'm going to be at Budweiser stage like two, maybe three nights before that on the Thursday. Might have to double dip. That sounds like a good time. Hold on a second. What do you mean you don't know what you're going to be there for? It's for my wife. She was very excited and exercised about it and I'm like, sounds great, honey. So, I don't know. So you weren't, that was like the dumb and dumber where it's like she wrote me a letter about how I don't, I don't listen or whatever. I don't know. I wasn't really paying attention. I don't know. Man, she was yammering on, but somebody can't be listening to that crap. No, love you, honey. No, I do remember. We're going. This is like, it's funny. I joke about, I have this running joke with people in my life all the time that like, I can't tell people personal things. Like what kind of music I listen to. You want to hear about how depressed I am on any given day and feel free to ask. We talk about that. That's personal though. The music I listen to. Now, we're going to. We're going to, uh, reliving our youth with a Sean Paul concert. Wow. Sean up all. Yeah. I didn't realize he was playing Budweiser. Like, is he still that? I guess. Yeah. Don't, don't get my wife to come down here and fist fight years. You finished that sentence, sir. So I mentioned it. The, the games in shape are he wrapped up. I do love me quickly. I do love me a worldly city Olympics. We're getting away from it too much. Like it's going to LA. Okay. Like, LA can host the Olympic games. I'm not sitting here going, well, bad Olympic. No, probably going to work out pretty well. Although swimming at a football stadium. Disrespectful of football. If I do say so myself. Okay. I knew you'd agree. But I think it's going to be great. But I, I don't know. Maybe it's just again. Was everything used to be better or was I nine? But like, oh, going to Barcelona. Let's learn something about it. This isn't, it's just like in London and LA forever for the rest of our lives now. I know we just sat in Paris. If you're getting another one and I think Italy, are they mixing in some games here and there? But, and I understand the way it is. It's like, I, it's terrible. The actual right answer to this is just to have two Olympic cities have a summer game city and a winter game city. I don't know. Maybe four of them. They can alternate. But that's the actual right answer. But I just used to love it when we'd go all over the world and it'd be, you know, I don't think we're going back to Berlin anytime soon. Haven't been back since the 36 games. Not a, not a banner one for, for all. There were banners. Yeah. Not a banner year for humanity at that time. So I don't know that we'll be going back there. But I do miss the idea of like, even real, like that was fun. Ryan locked. He pees on a gas station. He gets guns pulled in his face. We all had to feel sorry for him for some reason. Yeah. I love that kind of stuff. And I don't know. You don't get it as much. We had our, I suppose we did have the poop River story. Paris gave us that. Oh, sure. Nice. And again, like, I don't begrudge Paris as a games host, but feel like we need to, I don't know, bounce around the world. I know this is like the world's oldest complaint, but I do miss. It's like, Oh, Atlanta. And now it's like, okay, Atlanta, who cares about all these different cities. It wasn't just the stock ones like, Hey, gallery. I don't know. You know, it was pretty cool. Vancouver 2010. I certainly enjoyed that. We could wait another generation or something. If that's what people feel we need to do. But God, one day, and I know, like the tax money, everything, it's evil, but a lot of evil stuff in the world. Yeah. So if you look at the next few. So Milan will be hosting the 2026 winter. And then, of course, you mentioned LA, the French Alps in 2030. Lots of hockey arenas in the French Alps. I'm sure. Brisbane and Australia. Okay. You know what? I take it back. We got some good Olympic hosts. Yeah, but then hold on a second. Yeah, we're back to, like, Salt Lake. You know, who's, you know, who loves that. It's like Gary Betman's Olympics. He's like, God, this is the best. Everything full circle. Yeah, it really is 2002. Salt Lake. God, the. I don't know how the rest of the world will take that game in that games in. I will be watching Mario Lemieux, letting that pass go through his legs on repeat for the entirety to was at the career goal, I think, against the states. Chris Pronger made the pass, because then there was the excellent Bob Cole call of GEO Sakic, which is burned into all of our brains. Scars, surely. That's got to be it. Oh, God, what memories. And it is so funny to think. I know we're just Tom Cruise jumped off a building. That's the tease I was talking about later. But the God, it's so funny how Holy Vancouver has become and winning on, like, the Golden Gold, the Sydney Crosby and, like, I started the show talking about kids. There's literally a children's book that I read to my kid about the Golden Gold. Like, that's how historic it has become. But God, O2, like, I'm not going to sit here and say we don't give it enough credit because nobody sits around giving credit to Olympic Games memories that we like. But that feels a little forgotten. Like, we had the disaster in turn, the Olympics after in '06 there and everything. It was a disaster. Like, O2 was so special. And it just, I think it's because something even more special came, relatively speaking, less than a decade after it. We do kind of, I don't know, not give it it to do. But it feels like that one's just kind of lost a little bit to the sands of time. It did. And let's not forget. It was 50 years after they had won three years gold. But the Golden, the Golden Canada jerseys, the guys from Winnipeg, I think, were wearing it. Yes, they were. Was it the Winnipeg Falcons or something? Yeah, I have it because there's no match to the Air Force. Yeah. So I kind of agree with you that it has kind of gotten lost because also, man, I hate to be this guy, but that was a, that was a generation. It was 22 years ago. Like, again, it's so weird to think about it that way. The goal we were talking about had Chris Pronger passing through Mario Lemieux to Paul Korea. Yeah. And like, Prongers, the young man of the bunch. Yeah. And when Korea, I don't know, Pronger were around jeopardy in Korea. They're around the same, they're just leaving. Yeah. I feel like Prong was the baby, though. I don't know. But regardless of that fact, like, it's, it's wild to think about that. I actually had one of those moments on the weekend when we were talking with some friends and I was like, yeah, when I got my driver's license, 19 years ago, and I went, oh, my God. Oh, nothing's better than when you're like, yeah, you know, like 10 years ago, like 2000 or whatever, like whatever your marker is. Doesn't happen. Yeah, I know. But, but it is, but back, back on the whole Olympic thing in the cities in which it goes to, like, Korea's the baby. Two years younger. Two years younger. Sorry. Sorry, Chris. Sorry to both guys. Like, sorry, I pre-aged you, Paul Korea. Sorry, I'm outing you for being an old man, Chris Pronger. But I, it's tough being in the Eastern time zone only when, like, there's no Olympics that are ever reaching the Eastern time zone. Mm. They're really, like, the last one that we had in the Eastern time zone. That's interesting. I would have never thought about this. Was it Atlanta in '96? Yeah. Because I'm trying to think, like, God, like a New York games would be amazing, but you couldn't, like, it just seems impossible to do. It just wouldn't work. You know what it would be. The New Jersey elements. Yeah. Exactly. Just like, just like they have two football teams that play in New Jersey, but they call them New York. Yeah. Same thing. That's exactly what it would be. Yeah. I'm trying to think, like, of our, of the great, like, North American cities. Like, I mean, Toronto, we could sit here and be greedy, but it's like, I don't want the Olympics. No, we're not getting a summer games. Like, I'm sorry, folks. And you, obviously, you cannot, could you imagine them skiing down Bow Mountain? Oh, they're at Chacuzzi Park in Brampton. Oh, watch out. Oh, rural bales. Really gonna, really gonna throw a wrench in their plans here. Yeah. But that don't think so. But that is the last one. Although, you know what? No, we're on this now. They had the surfing in Tahiti. That's true. Which I, again, like, Ben got so mad at me when I admitted this because I like pulled up where Tahiti wasn't amount. I didn't think it was right beside France, but I was like, God, could they have picked a country farther? Yeah. Like, really, they couldn't have quite honestly. So, I don't know. Maybe that's how the Olympics should just be. Like, the swimming should be in a country. The gymnastics should be in a country. Sure. The speed skating should be in a country. I know I'm bouncing summer. But then you're hitting all different times. It's not, it's actually not a bad idea. The 24-hour game should get it all over within, like, three days. No, actually, that's terrible. We need the content. They should be in the Olympics longer, not short. They just add more stupid sports. No, you're not. Okay. How dare you? I wasn't even going to talk about this today. It's just not a sport. No, I'd like to come. I actually, I would like to apologize to all the breakers. I'd like to apologize to Phil, the wizard, whose last name I did not have in front of me. But really, when you're the wizard, do you even need a last name? I bet the question is, did he give himself that nickname? I hope not. I hope it's not a T-bone situation. I'll add George Costanza, where you try to give yourself a name. And if you ever wanted to make sure no one called you anything, like, could you imagine a buddy of yours did that of like, Hey, I'm T-bone, or that insert terrible nickname here. Do you like James Shields? Recall him? Big game, James. Big game, James. I don't know. I don't know how he managed to do that because, like, I, maybe, you know what that is? That's the internet has changed a lot. Yeah. We talk about how old we are. If that would happen now, that would have been outed. Like, he would have been outed as having given himself that nickname before he took the mound the first day it happened. But we had, like, what? Five years of big game, James, before anybody found out he gave it to himself. And then it's just in the lexicon. It's so hard to enjoy. But yeah, no, I don't, I don't like the giving of nicknames. Phil Kim, the wizard. Thank you for that. Again, his name's the wizard, though. Josh Santos, like, don't disrespect him by calling him the name his parents gave him. Obviously, he goes by the wizard. How dare you? But this is actually, I'm fine with. I, if I am, you know, who's allowed to be mad about this is like the Australians? No, no, no, they, buddy, you sent them. You take, that's a fight. You keep in the house. It's like, hey, we don't need to let the whole world see us doing this. But no, you're allowed to be mad about breaking. If you're Aaron Brown, or Andre to grass, or insert medalist, who's like, hey, look at us. We're both Olympic medalists. I'm just the fastest man in the world. Yeah, that's been around in my head. Look at how cool I am. Those guys are allowed to be mad. But tell me breaking wasn't the content gift from the gods. I mean, this is for the wrong reasons. No, but who cares? Honestly, in the grand scheme, like, how many things are Olympic events? Why? Why is it Olympic events? Like, I was looking at it. Every year I have this realization of, you know, the decathlon's pretty cool, but they should have one where they combine different sports, not just, they do. It's the pentathlon where you got a fence and you got a horse ride, and you're doing, like, a running laser pistol thing. It's like, okay, that's cool, I guess. But I don't know. Why is that a sport? It just seems like all, there's people who do each one of those things better. I don't know. It's, I'm done legislating what is and isn't a sport. If it's in the games, I'm here for it. I will complain about things that aren't there that should be, but I am done with the legislating of what is and isn't. And honestly, where would the internet at large have been this weekend if it was not for that Australian woman, who is a, like, a professor of something? She's like, doctor, physical movements or something like that. She's a doctor. Something. Dr. Rachel Gunn, also known as Ray Gunn. Ray Gunn. I'm sure she gave herself that. No, no, no, no. That feels like that came up in a girl's night. They had had a couple of, I don't know, like, what, I don't know, like, fosters. I don't know what the Aussies were drinking these days. They call it kangaroo pigs. Yeah, they had, they had been just in vibing and all the girls like, Oh, Ray Gunn. I love it. But they're like way better than that Aussie accents because they actually have them. Yeah, Ray Gunn. Yeah, I'm done. Awesome. I actually am done. I want, I want now there to be an Olympic sport. I change my mind. Okay. Finally come to the conclusion I want on this. I think that this is actually a long running Olympic sport of people sneaking in these games. They're like, Hey, we had ballroom dancing. Why not breaking? Hey, let's get this in there. And in 20 years time, some, some, maybe it's, maybe it's Ray Gunn herself. It's like Dr. Ray Gunn has been running a social experiment all this time and she's just been tricking us all to accept these, these sports in the Olympics. So here's the, here's the right up from Forbes. The 36 year old has been breaking since her 20s. 36 year old. Incredible. Breaking since her 20s. Not for anything. What I saw. Yeah, should have stopped at 20. God, it was incredible. But then you see, okay, did you see the wizard? Like he's doing real breakdance. He's spinning on his head. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not diminishing what the wizard did. But the point is, good job. You're finally putting some respect on his name. But the point is that, you know, those jokes where it's like, they should have the Olympics like a draft or it's like you've been selected and you are doing. And that's where they don't take exactly my point. So if the meme becomes reality, then we have a problem. Well, I saw, I saw one, it was a video and God, it caught me where the woman was like, you know, this is disrespectful. Like, I won't do the whole thing in an Australian accent, but just know in my head I want to. Like, you know, it's really disrespectful to Aussies. This is cultural for us. Like, this move was started in Sydney. And it's like doing the voice over of all of it. And then I was starting to buy it. And then it's like, for this kangaroo step is a mating ritual. I'm like, ah, you got me. Now, now we're over with this. Yeah. So that's the problem. When the meme becomes truth, then I have a problem with it. I want to know like all things in the Olympics, other than the sports I most care about. Apparently, well, they find ways to have more breaking in here. Like, you know, I know figure skating. Also like figure skating. They just do. They just do like, you know, I know there's ice stands and figure skating and payers and all that. But like for fair, it's like you got the short program and the long program. We're going to start to see like the long program. Are we going to see best single break? Like, just one trick. Is it going to be, like you said, a team event? How will they find a way to a more award, more medals and breaking than they do in baseball and softball and hockey and basketball? I guess basketball is a little different because they actually do get three X three, not three on three, three X three now. But yeah, I just, that is the thing that's so funny about this to me is it's one thing when it sneaks in here. Is a, okay, let's, let's see what this, what this looks like. It is another thing completely when we start to see like added stuff here because I don't even know if it's happening. It's like, I can easily see a world where there's a best synchronized breaking. Well, no, but also, oh, actually, come on, tell me you wouldn't want to tell me you wouldn't want to see that. Well, that's got to be the next evolution. I actually think you love this. That should be like, you love the, I'm my mileage varies or I get much less mileage out of this stuff than you. But you love the like fantasy football. Punishments. I do. That feels like that should be some type of punishment. Like going into the Olympics and break. No, I wouldn't say go to the Olympics. I think that'd be a little tough, but well, not for a gun. Where are you? Well, I guess you got to go to Oceana. It's a, it's an easy qualifying zone for breaking. Who knew? No, I think what you would have to do is like, you'd have the last two place finishers in the league. They would have to at the draft the next year. Perform a synchronized break. I think how was that for a, that is, that is pretty good. It's not quite performing at a Luke Combs concert. No, walking in medicals, but it's pretty good. Which again, I feel like is just a reward. Yeah, I, I'm a little, I'm a little, like I understand like the public embarrassment of it all, but buddy, you're doing up your, your league cares enough about this to have hooked you up with Luke Combs. You were doing something embarrassing one way or another. Well, there we go. So you're, I don't, honestly, I think being in a, in a fantasy league with Luke Combs, I think is pretty cool enough that if I lost, but yeah, I think I could go on stage and sing a couple bars. So we mentioned it off the top of the show. It feels like a hundred years ago. Now we did have kind of one last shock of the games for Canada, the four by 100 meter men's relay team. Everything happened in the lead up to it that Jamaicans is not making the final. Noah Lyles talking smack, talking smack that old clip. Although I will say, okay, I saw a lot of people play in the earth, pass around that old clip. The one of Noah Lyles, he's asked, I was Canada threat, who, who, and he laughs, he laughs. And I saw a lot of, and like, I understand, but I saw a lot of people pointing out the like, Oh, who's laughing now? I don't know. I don't know. Probably Noah Lyles still, like he didn't get beat in the four by 100 meter. I know he's upset for America and the rest of those guys should all be, I don't know, mad or embarrassed or, you know, pick your, pick your descriptor there. But that was the thing that jumped out to me is that everybody, everybody is so quick to like, Oh, look at this bad look for Lyles. Not really great. Great look for Canada. I think it's a great thing to point out to just, you know, dunk on the world if you're Canada here, but I saw everybody making it kind of about Noah Lyles. It was just weird to me because it didn't really feel like it was. No, and it kind of took away from the moment to them just, you know, trying to rehash that because at the end of the day, it was a great race by the Canadians and the Americans just, like that was the shock the world, like they couldn't even pass the baton. God, it was, it's so, it's so nice when things just match up with your narrative, whether they're true. Yeah, or not. And for the rest of the world, like, and they, the announcers can't go out of their way when they see like an Asian sprinting. Like these guys are not fast. They cannot, they cannot quickly enough. Talk about how it's just fundamentals and they're so well drilled and then banned right there, the Americans are all as fast as can be. And it is just a complete, and it's, it's tough in that sport where they all have, you know, the complete lack of hubris and it's, you know, just out of, just out of the belly. It's what you need. But yeah, just like, I feel like there was a lot of the world taking joy in that any, you know, if that's Jamaica happening, people certainly are like, Oh, great, good to see the big nation fall. It feels a little different when it's America there. All right, we'll have a little more on the Olympics later on in the show, Andrew, Andy Petrilo going to join us there, obviously doing great work hosting things all games long. So we'll talk to her about some of her favorite stories of the games, but right now it's time for the Canadian football report brought to you by a security in Canada, the official life insurance partner of the CFL. Here's your week 10 recap in the CFL on Thursday night in the nation's Capitol. It was a wet and wild game and a low scoring defensive battle between the rough riders and red blacks. After the two teams traded field goals in the closing minutes of regulation, overtime couldn't decide anything, finishing in a 22, 22 tie. Ottawa's Drew Brown started a quarterback, but was forced from the game with a leg injury in the first half, although it was replaced by Dustin Crum, who finished the night, 21 of 32 with 211 passing yards, 72 on the ground along with a pick. The red blacks have already announced that it will be Jeremiah Masoli, who will get the start on Thursday when Ottawa goes to Calgary to face the Stampeders. Even with the ties, Saskatchewan claimed sole possession of the first in the West with a five, three and one record. Well, five and two Ottawa remains second in the West. In week nine, it was the Stampeders who claimed a home victory after the Argonauts with a stunning fourth quarter comeback. But this week on Friday, the Argos returned the favor with a 32 point second half bounce back to beat the Stamps 32, 25 in the second half of their home and home series. Earning the start at quarterback Nick Arbuckle was 18 for 26 for 181 yards and a touchdown along with a pick. Throwing the Argos now go over 500 as they improve to five and four on the year. Well, Calgary drops to four and five with both teams and third in their respective divisions. It was business as usual for the als led by David Alexander, who threw for two touchdowns passing to receiver Charleston Rambo and a 33 23 win over the Hamilton Tiger Cats on Saturday. Montreal continues to separate themselves for everyone else in the league now with a CFL best eight and one record. Well, the tie cats remain in the basement of the East at two and seven. The elks overcame the loss of their starting quarterback to win their second consecutive game. This time, 33 16 over the BC Lions on Sunday night. That was the Canadian football report brought to you by security in Canada, the official life insurance partner of the CFL football talk will continue on the other side of things. Our man Trey Wingo going to join us next also. I don't know if you just heard. There are a couple of numbers of the all name team. I just mentioned, I'll tell you who they are on the other side of the break. Fan morning show continues Sportsnet five nine to the fan.