Brett Mason Show
Forty-Four: Freedom Of Religion Threatened
The dangers of teaching the Bible in public schools is that it threatens freedom of religion.
Article on this School Official: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/a...
- Duration:
- 22m
- Broadcast on:
- 13 Aug 2024
- Audio Format:
- mp3
welcome into another episode the Brett Mason show I'm the aforementioned Brett Mason basically this turned into a podcast where we talk about all the things they say you shouldn't talk about which is politics religion and women and I guess to be more quote-unquote inclusive be politics religion and relationships so we'll go that route I don't mind being woke I should do an episode on woke by the way just so we can make sure to squeeze all this stuff in so today we're gonna be talking about a couple of things we'll start with the first one which is this story that broke not too long ago and I'm kind of late on it actually not really late on it but by the time you hear it'll be be rate I'm only recording this like maybe four or five days after this broke but you're probably not hearing it for weeks because I have scheduled some in advance nevertheless we're talking about the Oklahoma State Superintendent of Public Education so he's over the education for the entire state his name is Ryan Walters he put out a memo during the summer for some reason early in the summer by the way he put out a memo that said effective immediately all Oklahoma schools are required to incorporate the Bible which includes its in commandments as an instructional support immediate and strict compliance is expected which seems kind of generic like just from reading that it doesn't tell me a lot about what's going on but he also did a press conference where he went into some detail about how important the Bible was how it's foundational to history and the country and the Constitution and laws and just a bunch of nonsense so actually recorded a little video that I had posted on social media and I'm just gonna take the audio of that and stick it in here and let it speak for itself and then we'll come back after it and I want to talk specifically about these 10 commandments because we just recently had another ruling or another decision over it was Louisiana where all the courtrooms are gonna have 10 commandments in them which which Christians praise by the way which makes no sense it makes me wonder if they've ever even read the 10 commandments but nevertheless we'll get to that after we do this so this is this is clips from this guy's press conference with my commentary interlace them between the Bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country the Bible is a necessary historical document to teach our kids about the history of this country when the Bible was written this country didn't exist nobody knew shit about America in the Bible in biblical times all they knew about was their little region over there that's all they knew about they knew about that little one section in the Middle East that was the entire world to them that's all they knew so how the Bible relates to the history of America is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard number two the Bible is not a historical document the Bible's a religious document that's all it is it's a religious document so just because you want to call it a historical document doesn't make it a historical document it's a religious document and if you feel like religious documents should be taught in school by the state because that's what schools are I know you guys don't understand what the state is but cops are part of the state teachers are a part of the state anybody that works for government is a part of the state and via the Constitution the document so many of you claim to love the state can't take a position on any religion it just can't that's how you have freedom of religion that's why our founders said f that we're not having the state be a part of a religion so it's unconstitutional but but more than that it's just dumb everything this guy just said is dumb to have a complete understanding of Western civilization we need the Bible to have a complete understanding of Western civilization a book that was written 2,000 years ago I mean the amount of dumb this guy can't be this dumb like he just can't be this dumb he's just pandering for Christian votes there's no way he's this dumb there's zero chance this guy is this dumb but he believes you're dumb that that's the thing he believes you're dumb and he believes he can say dumb stuff and you'll believe it that's what he's doing I've an understanding of the basis of our legal system the Bible is by no means a basis for our legal system it just isn't the Old Testament was full of laws that nobody would dream of following today and the New Testament is all about grace and so I don't see how anything in the Bible comports with anything to do with our legal system in any kind of a way zero Neil it's just it's just it's the things this guy said is preposterous and it's frankly we're talking about the Bible one of the most foundational documents used for the Constitution and the birth the Bible was not a foundational document used for the Constitution there's no part of the Bible or no part of the Constitution that follows anything from the Bible not one not one single thing find me one thing in the Bible freedom of speech the Bible and for freedom of speech the Bible isn't for freedom of religion the Bible is for one religion this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard freedom of the press find me anything in the Bible that's for freedom of the past find me anything in the Bible that says you should be secured your place in personal effects find me anywhere this is you have a right to remain silent find me any find me anything anything anything in the Bible that relates to the Constitution do just one thing just finally something any one thing I dare you to try our country we also find major points in history that refer to the Bible that reference the Bible okay there's there's for sure parts of history that refer to the Bible not all in a positive way by the way history refers to the Bible positively and negatively so I don't know what that has to do with teaching and religion in school we see multiple figures whether we're talking about the Federalist Papers constitutional conventional arguments and Martin Luther King Jr. who use it as a tremendous impetus for the civil rights movement okay the civil rights movement had nothing to do with the Constitution of the country this was a this was a movement to try to gain rights for a group of people as nothing to do with the founding of the country or any of that kind of stuff like everything this guy says is ridiculous as far as the Federalist Papers not the Constitution although I do often have many times study the Federalist Papers but you'll not find anything in there about the Bible being a guide for anything to do with the country where you died dare you have you ever read the Federalist Papers do you know what the hell he's talking about probably not and he's counting on that because he thinks you're dumb and I don't know what else to say and time many of those arguments back to the Bible that didn't happen it is essential that our kids have an understanding of the Bible and its historical context so whether it's where whether it's important or not for kids to have an understanding the Bible or not is up to their parents it's not up to the state it's not up to a state agent it's up to the parents that's who decides not you not a teacher this is a dumbest shit I've ever heard so we will be issuing a memo today that every school district will adhere to which is that every teacher every classroom in the state will have a Bible in the classroom I will be teaching from the Bible okay you can issue all the menu memos you want I mean I'll give a shit out many memos you issue but that's unconstitutional it's gonna be challenged and it's gonna be shot down even Trump's court of renegades who apparently don't get about shit about anything the best I could tell are gonna shoot this down because it has no footing and no standing people don't let them talk down to you and don't don't let them make fools of you please don't if you want to teach your kids the Bible do it that's a personal decision religion is a personal decision between you and your family it's not a decision for the state because I'm telling you right now I've been through this before where we talk about freedom of religion if you cherish freedom of religion then you don't let fucking state agents teach your children a religion because if that's legal then a state agent can teach your child any effing religion they want to teach them they can teach them Hinduism they can teach them atheism's not a religion but they can teach them atheism they can teach them Buddhism they can teach them Islam they can teach them they can literally teach them any religion they want if if they if a state agent can teach your child legally a religion they can teach them any religion and the way you keep religion free is by doing it yourself you do it at home with your kids and your granny and your grandpa and your cousin and your grandchildren that's how you do it stop exporting your responsibilities as a religious person to the state and handle that shit at home like you're supposed to do thank you very much not sure I can add much to that here so we'll move on from that but it's it's a may I just say this it's amazing to me how people who scream scream scream freedom of religion freedom of religion so quickly jump on board and support things that would erode freedom of religion this would for sure he wrote it like whether you're a religious person or not like I'm for freedom religion I think as long as your religion doesn't include illegal things like if your religion is sacrifices babies and stuff then I don't believe in your freedom of religion but you know as far as it you and a religious belief and you don't do things that infringe on my rights then I don't care yeah for sure you should be freedom worship or not worship whatever but once you start as a Christian and as Christians are the one doing it once you start endorsing this concept that the state or state agents can start teaching your children about a religion once that's accepted and it's codified and it becomes a precedent right so let's say this happened and let's say the Supreme Court ruled on it and said yeah we think religious documents are historical documents and sure absolutely and this is fine once once that happens in it because it's going to get challenged it's going to get challenged and it's going to wind up going to the Supreme Court once if the if the Supreme Court ever ruled on that and said absolutely yeah you can do this you've now opened the flood floodgates where any teacher in America who follows any religion other than Christianity can now start teaching from their holy book because it will have been made it through the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court would have said it was okay and so now your children who you I mean you like it of course you're a christian of course you're like oh yeah of course which again it also doesn't make sense to me because there's there's uh there's over three thousand different denominations of Christianity in America and they all teach different things so why you would want to outsource the teaching of your religion to some person that you don't know how they interpret the bible in a classroom why i don't know why you'd want to outsource that to them let's just say you're a person that believes in speaking in tongues and the and the teacher in your kids classroom is from a church that doesn't believe in it and so they start teaching how wrong it is and they make a compelling argument and now your kid believes what they said but now you've tried to teach your kids another thing and if you're one of those people like like the people I grew up with that believe that hey if you didn't get the Holy Ghost to speak in tongues and you're not going to heaven if you're one of those kinds of believers well now your teacher's just undermined your religious faith i just don't get it i don't understand why you'd want to outsource anything religious to a teacher to your kid it makes no sense to me there's a million different ways to interpret the bible and every single denomination of Christianity interprets different things different ways so i mean it might just make none of it makes any sense to me but anyways going back to this the slippery slope uh once this if this were to ever be codified which it won't by the way like i even as bad as the supreme court is that trump has put these ringers in that just apparently don't believe in anything freedom related i don't even think even they would hold this up but if they do if they uphold this is being legal and acceptable then you're sending your kid off to school where your teacher can teach them anything they want religious and there won't be nothing you can do about it because you're going to fight it and then the teacher's going to appeal to the courts and the courts is going to say well the supreme courts ruled that you can teach religion in school and then you're just going to be where you're like okay well i guess i'll take my kid to a different school which which may work out for you it may not i don't know it's crazy i don't know why anybody would want this like you have to literally not understand how freedom or religion works to support this anyway i'm going to let that go and we're going to talk about this these ten commandments in the in in courtrooms i've never understood this why is it so important to you as a christian for the ten commandments to be in a courtroom a courtroom is where somebody's been charged with a crime not a crime written up in the bible right it's a crime written up in in uh in uh state state ordinances and state laws right unless it's a federal crime then it's federal ordinances federal laws or whatever so they're answering for crimes written by humans right humans came up with these laws humans came up with these ordinances and they got them passed and so something became illegal and now a person has been charged with that and now they're going to court to be adjudicated what does the ten commandments have to do with any of that have you ever read the ten commandments because i'm about to read them to you and we're going to about one by one and see how many of them have anything to do with court like what what the point why would they need to be there makes no sense number one they'll show i have no other gods before me what the hell does that have to do with a guy being in court charged with child abuse what what does that have to do with that like how does that have any bearing on it on a case or an outcome it has zero it's it's irrelevant number two that i shall not make under the any graven image what does that have to do with a guy being charged with stealing a purse from a lady well what does that have to do with any of that i don't have anything to do with it it's just that doesn't make no sense that's why i take the name of the lord i got in vain so first of all people don't even understand what that means i hear that misapplied all the time but i digress on that what does that have to do when you're in uh uh in court and the guy is accused of uh jumping a guy on a corner and bashing his head in with a ball bat what does that have to do with this what is not taking the name of the lord in vain have to do with that nothing it's zero number four remember the seventh thing keep it holy what what guidance does that offer in a court of law what what good what how is that does any in any way does that have anything to do what's happening in the court of law is zero number five honor that father and that mother well i guess if you had a kid who was being charged with stabbing his mom in the leg i mean i guess that would apply but for the most part you know only in certain specific crimes could i see how uh this would relate in any way i don't i find it mostly meaningless finally we get the one thou shalt not kill finally finally we would get to something from the ten commandments that relates in any way shape form of fashion to laws we have today yes murdering people is illegal but not killing people because even the bible killing people is it wrong god told god told his people to kill people in massive amounts babies children infant women boy i didn't care he's like plow a ball down so clearly god's for killing um so they say a better interpretation of this is doubt shot not murder and i guess murder means you know you can kill infants and little babies and stuff as long as god tells you to but if he don't tell you to then it's murder i guess i would only be able to start on that because that's a whole nother subject this whole god being pro-life thing clearly he's not pro-life he killed every single person in the world one time except for eight people come on anyways maybe though thou shalt not kill if we change it thou shalt not murder then it does have some bearing in some cases in court so we give you one uh number seven thou shalt not commit adultery so i guess if you were in uh divorce court this may be applicable in some kind of a way but other than that committing adultery is not illegal you don't get locked up for cheating on your wife it's just it's not a legal thing it's a civil thing number eight thou shalt not steal okay lots of steps and stuff happens so you know i work to number eight and so far we have two that in any way shape form or fashion but then again why do we need it like we already have this in the law it's illegal to steal we like that's already written in the laws we have today i don't understand what having this document with a bunch of nonsense that doesn't have anything to do with laws like how does it help what is that how is that helping here's another one number nine kind of relates in a way that shall not bear fault against our neighbor so um obviously you can't commit perjury in court if you're on the stand you have to uh you know tell the truth and if you get caught line you can be charged for perjury which is a crime so in some ways nine so out of the we're up to nine so far and out of the nine we found three that in some way minorly relate to what happens in court number ten thou shalt not covet right don't be jealous of what somebody else has got what does this have to do well what how is court served in any way about having this plastered on a wall it's just it makes no sense like i don't understand it i don't understand it this makes no sense you know be religious all you want believe in the bible believe in two commandments you know for sure stand up for your right to worship for sure stand up for your right to believe for sure stand up for your right to do all those things but what does this have to do with anything it's just nonsense it's just a feel it just makes you feel good makes like you've accomplished something is what it does you're like oh well we got 10 commandments in the courthouse now things are gonna be good and that things aren't gonna be good now this is gonna be any better does anyone have been hanging on some kind of a wall in the courthouse ain't changing shit it's not going to change anything about how many people break laws it's not going to change anything about how the judge adjudicates what happens in court it's not going to change anything about how the prosecution makes their case not going to change anything about how the defense uh defends their clients it's not going to make any difference to how uh the jurors on the court have to follow the law is laid out to them by the judge and have to how they have to rule and vote but it's not going to affect one single thing you've accomplished nothing why all this hubbub over accomplishing not a damn thing there's so many other things in the world that you could be uh put in your time and energy to that might change something none of this makes any difference none of this makes any difference but i'll repeat what i said earlier when we were talking about the superintendent and stuff the courthouse is an arm of the state it's an arm of the government the prosecutor arm of the government the bailiffs in their arm of the government the court is an arm of the government they are acting on behalf of the government and enforcing things on behalf of the government they do not have any right responsibility and then not only under any legal uh uh way whatsoever can they bring religion into a a court proceeding they just can't they they can't they legally they can't do it imagine if you were in court and again the supreme court takes this case right let's take this case gets challenged and lose in it and it makes it all up to spring court and the supreme court rules yeah you put religious documents in the courthouse for sure you can and i don't know michigan let's say there's a few states that have a reasonable population of muslims uh by the way not for the most part not insane muslims but you know decent people i know a few myself but let's say you run across one who's so you know overly into it whatever and now since the supreme court because you've insisted that the ten commandments should be in court and you pushed it all the way to supreme court and they ruled yep we can have religious documents in court we can pin it up on the wall if the judge won't say yeah absolutely and so now you go to court for some kind of a thing or your kid does or your cousin does or something and you happen before a judge who's a muslim and he's pasted parts of the caron on the wall that talks about sharia law and the next thing you know your son is being put to death because the judge thought it was appropriate because some shit he read in the caron you would have been the person that caused that you fighting for this you would be what caused to that your actions in support of this would be what inevitably led to that if you love the ten commandments and you believe them that's great that's a personal religious decision for you you you do that in your church you do it at home with your family you do it when you go to sunday school you do it when you have you know religious meetings in your house there's all kinds of places you can do that and teach it and share it and believe in it and and rejoice in it and love it the state doesn't get to do any of that you you can't have a state that endorses anything like that because once you allow the state to start endorsing a religion they can endorse any religion which will come back to bite you in the ass so if you value your freedom of religion if you value this freedom and liberty that you have in america which is unrivaled in any part of the world then you better damn well fight for it by keeping this shit out of the government with that i bid you adieu